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[woman] I wanna call it a nightmare.
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[woman 2] It was
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absolutely wrong from the beginning.
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[clock ticking]
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[woman 3] I personally think
it was an experiment for him,
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some sick game.
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[woman 4] I think
about the "why" every single day.
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[man exhaling slowly]
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[unnerving music playing]
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[answering machine beeping]
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Hi, Jacoba, this is Dr. Webber calling.
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I have your lab results in.
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So give me a call when you have a chance,
and we can go over those.
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- Thank you. Bye.
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[Jacoba spitting]
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[answering machine beeping]
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Hi, this message is for Jacoba Ballard.
This is Jane over at Dr. Chan's office.
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Give us a callback. We want
to reschedule you for an appointment.
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Thanks so much.
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[suspenseful music playing]
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[man moaning]
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[Jacoba] Growing up, I felt different.
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I'm this blonde-haired, blue-eyed person
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in a family with dark hair
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and, like, olive skin and dark eyes.
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So, I kept asking my mom
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if I was adopted.
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I kept, like, reassuring my parents,
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and I'm like, "It's fine if I am,
you can tell me. It'll be okay."
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Finally, my mom told me the truth.
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So, I've known since the age of ten
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that I was from donor sperm.
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[woman sighing] I believe it was 1979,
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and... I wanted a child so bad,
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but my husband could not have children.
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So I went to see Dr. Cline
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for artificial insemination.
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I was young.
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I think, like, 20, 21.
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He was professional.
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[inaudible]
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[Debbie] Uh, we didn't really say a lot.
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I mean, he just told us
that he would match us with a donor
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that looked like my husband.
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He was gonna use medical students,
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their sperm.
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And so, when I start ovulating,
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I went in, they did the procedure...
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and, um, I went home, and I was pregnant.
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[Debbie] She's my everything.
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[smacking lips]
I love that child more than life itself.
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[Jacoba] I always had
this longing for siblings.
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I just wanted somebody that related to me,
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that's, you know, my brother or sister,
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and I just wanted to have that bond.
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When I was around the age of 18,
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you know, around, like, 1999,
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there wasn't commercial DNA testing.
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All I knew
was my mom went to Dr. Donald Cline,
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and he was the go-to doctor.
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My mom was told that
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they used a medical resident
for donor sperm,
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and they never used
the medical resident or the donor,
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say, more than three times.
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So, since there was me,
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I figured that I might have
one or two half-siblings.
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So, I looked him up,
and I called him at his office.
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He actually answered the phone.
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I wanted to know if he had a donor number
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or my mom's medical records
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to where I could have
some kind of identifying information.
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He was very
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straightforward, matter-of-fact,
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um, no empathy.
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But I remember asking him,
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like, telling him
I wanted to find half-siblings,
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and he said that
I can't ever know that information.
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My mother's records have been destroyed.
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[Jacoba] He wished me good luck,
and that was it.
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I just went on with life and, you know,
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married, raised my children,
and hoped that someday maybe
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I would find a sibling or two.
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[melancholy music playing]
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Watching our friends' children
growing up around us
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left us feeling isolated and desperate.
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But as we found out, we were not alone.
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One out of five couples
living in the United States
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experience infertility problems.
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[promo narrator] The physicians and staff
at Indianapolis Infertility
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can help you understand your particular
infertility problem more clearly.
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Both Dr. Donald Cline
and Dr. Robert Colver
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are specialists
in the field of infertility
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and have achieved excellent results
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in diagnosing and treating
thousands of infertile couples.
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[woman] Dr. Cline was the best-known
infertility doctor in Indianapolis.
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And I started working for him
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in '81 to '94.
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I worked 13 years.
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[man] I was partnered with Dr. Cline
from 1987 to 1991, and I have to say,
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my career wouldn't be
what it has been over the last 35 years
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if it hadn't been for Don Cline. So...
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You know, I have a very special place
in my heart for that man.
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Before '85, for an insemination
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or for a donor insemination,
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fresh sperm was used.
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And back then,
you didn't have, like today,
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you go on a website, 300 guys show up.
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[Jan] We had a notebook
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so they could pick
from what donor criteria they wanted.
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The hospital was...
It's just right across the street.
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And I actually went to the hospital
and met some of the donors
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because they were residents,
and I knew 'em.
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And they would pass me the specimen,
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and I would take it back to the office.
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It has to be kept warm, body temperature.
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And so I transported the sample in my bra,
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so the sperm was still viable
by the time I got it over at the office.
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It was a great field.
It was really interesting.
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We were putting tubes back together
so people... women could get pregnant.
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And he had
a terrific success rate at that.
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[Robert] We'd do laser surgery on tubes,
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and that was a new thing
that Don did that other doctors didn't do.
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For these couples, you have to have them
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really think through this,
talk through this, pray about it.
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Really feel like you thought through
this whole thing, because
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once you do that donor insemination
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and they get pregnant,
that's their baby. Forever.
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[birds chirping]
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[woman] It was always very emotional
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when one of your girlfriends
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because there were several times
that I'd get off the phone,
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and I'd just cry
because I wanted a child so bad.
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My husband and I had gone
to various fertility doctors
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trying to find... my issue.
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It was hard on me and my husband.
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But I thought, "Okay. I've finally found
a doctor that might be able to help us
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because he was so well-known."
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I was about 27.
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I, uh... My husband and I
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My husband got tested,
and he was infertile.
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I was told, "The only person
who's doing live sperm donor insemination
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is Dr. Don Cline."
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"He's the best of the best, so go to him."
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[Liz] By that point,
it'd been two and a half years
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of having my period
when I wanted to really conceive,
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taking my temperature, and...
for every month and every day.
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So it was the first time I felt...
It was hopeful.
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[light music playing]
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[Dianna] I carried my husband's sperm
in a little container.
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Well, we didn't have much time
because you had to have it there,
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I think, within an hour.
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And then there was this room
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that I would go into
for the artificial insemination,
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right then with the sperm,
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with some kind of long, like, um...
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Well, it looked like a needle-type thing,
but that was all I remember.
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[dramatic music playing]
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[Liz] He'd walk me back to the exam room,
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I'm lying down,
and my knees are up in the air.
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He said, "Okay. I'm gonna, uh,
put this... this specimen in you."
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So I wait on the table
for about 20 minutes.
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I was thinking actually positive thoughts.
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I was thinking,
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"Wow. I might be able to have a child."
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When the doctor's office called me
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and told me I was pregnant,
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I... I couldn't believe it.
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[Dianna] We were just so happy
when I had her.
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I even took Julie back into the office
and then showed her off to Dr. Cline.
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I thought I had altitude sickness.
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[laughing]
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So I laid off a little bit of skiing,
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and ate more crackers, and drank some tea,
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and, um, never thinking I was pregnant.
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I thought I was just late.
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I was ecstatic.
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I thought it was a gift at the time.
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[Jacoba] In 2014, you see 23andMe
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on, like, every other commercial on TV.
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I was 35,
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and I told my husband
I was gonna take a DNA test
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because I figured,
at least, I had one or two siblings.
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I felt like it was kind of a bonus
if I did find the donor,
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but that wasn't, like, my goal.
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My goal was to find a sibling.
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- [keyboard clacking]
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[Jacoba] The fall of 2014,
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I received my results.
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I remember that day vividly.
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It came back that I was related to
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seven siblings.
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It was actually immediate excitement, um,
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with concern.
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Finding out
that I had siblings was amazing,
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but there's, you know, eight of us.
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What... what's going on here?
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Because my mom was told
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that they never used a donor
more than three times.
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Three times was the ideal.
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We didn't want a large population
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with all the same father.
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There's the concern for consanguinity,
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uh, having too many people
in a certain geographic area
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that could potentially be your brother
or your sister, and you didn't know it.
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Because you could potentially
have a brother and sister marrying.
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[Jacoba] Hold up. [chuckling]
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This doesn't make sense.
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Obviously, you used someone's sperm
more than three times.
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[dramatic music playing]
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[Jacoba] And that's when we started
to do our own investigating.
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Every weekend, we would call each other,
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or we would plug names into Ancestry
and work on a family tree.
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We joked one day, trying to figure it out,
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and we're like, "Wouldn't it be crazy
if it was the doctor?"
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But we disregarded it, and we're like,
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"Probably not, but we'll go through
this journey together."
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"We'll help each other find
who our biological father is."
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We were able to just focus
on our paternal matches,
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and we all matched a lady named Sylvia,
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who was our second cousin,
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and she was on 23andMe.
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So, we had messaged her.
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I asked her what surnames
was in her family tree,
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and she gave us a whole list of names.
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One of the names
that popped up was Swinford.
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Swinford is
Donald Cline's mother's maiden name.
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I said, "By any chance,
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do you have
the name Cline in your family?"
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She said, "Oh yes,
I completely forgot. My cousin Don."
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"He's a doctor."
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[dramatic music playing]
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[Jacoba] Right then, my stomach dropped,
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and I felt sick because she just confirmed
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what I think we probably already knew,
but we were hoping wasn't true.
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Dr. Donald Cline
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could be our biological father.
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I was in shock.
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[sighing heavily]
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There were so many emotions.
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So many questions.
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He lied about a donor being used.
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Why did he do it?
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And how long did he do it?
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And how many siblings do we have?
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I honestly didn't know who to go to.
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I googled, like, "Where do you make
a complaint against a doctor?"
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That, in turn,
led to me filing a complaint
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with the Attorney General's office
for Indiana.
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So, then I received a form back
from the Attorney General's office
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that was like,
their generic messaging like,
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"Hi. We've received your complaint,
and it's gonna be investigated further,
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and someone will be in touch."
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We waited and waited.
Nobody was returning my calls.
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No questioning, nothing
from the Attorney General's office.
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[papers rustling]
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[Jacoba] I wanted answers.
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So I reached out
to every news outlet, big and small,
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and nobody would pick up the story.
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...and I'm Angela Ganote.
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Yeah. We're starting off
on a chilly start today,
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but it's gonna warm up and warm up fast.
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[Jacoba] I was watching TV one day,
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and I was like...
[exhaling sharply] ..."Her!"
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- [phones ringing]
- [Jacoba] "I forgot to send it to her."
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[Angela] In February of 2015,
I logged onto Facebook,
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and I had a message from Jacoba.
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The message was in-depth,
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saying that she believed
a doctor in Indianapolis
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had inseminated multiple women
with his own sperm.
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It was shocking,
but it was also backed by proof.
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Before Jacoba came to me,
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she had reached out
to Attorney General of our state,
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the Attorney General of the United States.
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She had reached out
to national news organizations,
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and she had gotten no response.
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And I thought,
"Why is no one listening, or at least
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finding the truth?"
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I walked into our news director's office,
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and I said,
"You guys are not gonna believe this."
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[dramatic music playing]
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[Angela] I reached out to Dr. Cline
in the very beginning.
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He told me that he was not the father.
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He told me that he only used sperm
from a doctor in training,
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that there is no way possible
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that the siblings had more
than three brothers or sisters.
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I asked if he would like
to see the DNA evidence.
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I asked him if he would like
to provide his own DNA
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so that he could help them.
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"If you're not the father,
have a DNA test and prove to them."
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And he wouldn't.
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[phone slamming]
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[Angela] So when we
first aired the first story,
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I couldn't use his name,
and that was, um, hard for me.
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Sisters, born here in Indiana,
uncover a family secret.
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Their dad is not their biological father.
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They are donor children,
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the product of an anonymous man
who donated his sperm.
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[Jacoba] Since we didn't have
Donald Cline's DNA,
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we couldn't really move forward
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until we had him take a DNA test
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to prove that
he was our biological father.
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Like, we knew it in our gut,
but we didn't have anybody at the state
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that would get back with us, and
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they weren't in any hurry
to get a DNA sample from him.
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[suspenseful music playing]
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[Jacoba] So, one of my half-siblings
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messaged all
of Cline's children and grandchildren
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that were over the age of 18.
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Basically said,
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"Our mothers went through
infertility treatment."
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"Did somebody
in your family donate sperm?"
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[birds screeching]
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[Jacoba] It was probably
a week or two later,
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Cline's son messaged me.
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So, I met with Doug and Donna,
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which are two of Cline's children,
with his wife, Audrey.
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I chose to do it at my church
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because I felt more comfortable.
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I don't know these people,
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and these are some big accusations.
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They said they had talked to their dad,
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and he did admit
that he was our biological father.
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But Doug said that the only time
that Cline used his sperm
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was when he didn't have access to a donor,
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and as far as siblings go,
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there was absolutely no more than ten.
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[suspenseful music playing]
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[man moaning]
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[dramatic music playing]
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[woman] I had seen
the news pop on one night...
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[Angela] ...they are donor children
searching for answers...
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[woman]...and I saw Jacoba on TV,
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and my husband thought
that we looked a lot alike.
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My husband's exact words were,
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"I don't feel like
this is going to end well,
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and I want you to be aware of that."
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So I talked to my mom.
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[Dianna] My daughter called me and said,
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"Should I get tested?" And I said, "No."
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'Cause I, at that point in time,
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I thought it was
my husband's sperm that he had used.
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She said,
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"You know, honey.
This doesn't apply to you."
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"This doesn't pertain to you at all.
I know you're your dad and I's."
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Um, but something in my gut,
I just couldn't let it go.
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So I notified Jacoba via Facebook.
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She wasn't really sure
if this would pertain to me at all,
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'cause I was supposed to have been
from my father and not a donor.
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So she said the best way
to do it is just take a test.
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And once I took that test,
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if we were related,
her name would show up.
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[sniffling]
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[breath shuddering]
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Hardest thing I've ever had to go through.
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Go back to everything
that you've known about yourself.
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[sniffling]
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[Julie] It just completely
washes away your identity.
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And you really have no idea
who you are anymore.
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We both cried on the phone,
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and then I had to...
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[breathing deeply]
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...figure out a way
I was gonna tell my husband
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'cause I knew
that it was gonna devastate him.
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I said, "Remember
when we went to Dr. Cline?"
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And I said, "Unfortunately, um,
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Dr. Cline didn't use your sperm.
He used his own."
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"So...
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we're just now finding out
that Julie is not yours."
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My husband started crying.
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And he said that,
and I'll never forget these words.
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He says,
"He's taken everything away from me."
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00:24:41,938 --> 00:24:43,523
[melancholy music playing]
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And he did.
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It's hard.
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I mean, what did he do
with my dad's sperm?
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He just threw it away like it was nothing?
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I mean, it's just... It's wrong.
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[Jacoba] After I met with Doug,
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he had called me and said,
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"I will do whatever it takes
to get you the answers."
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00:25:17,182 --> 00:25:19,476
And I said, "We want to meet him."
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00:25:19,559 --> 00:25:21,520
"We have questions for him."
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00:25:23,104 --> 00:25:25,357
"I want him to look us in the eye."
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00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:28,026
"You at least owe us that much."
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00:25:28,109 --> 00:25:30,111
[suspenseful music playing]
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00:25:31,279 --> 00:25:35,534
[Jacoba] And so he set up a time
for myself and five other siblings
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to be able to meet Cline.
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[clattering]
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[Jacoba] It was almost like
the moment that his feet hit the floor,
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you could hear his footsteps,
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and you could hear his cane.
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00:25:54,219 --> 00:25:57,514
He was not showing emotion.
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And on his hip,
I could see the outline of a gun.
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I think that it was
partially to intimidate us.
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So he introduced himself,
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and he went around the table,
asking each one's name, age,
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and what they did for a profession.
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00:26:25,584 --> 00:26:28,837
It was almost like he was ranking us.
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00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:30,505
Like, "Let me see
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which one of my offspring
made it to the top."
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00:26:34,718 --> 00:26:35,552
[inaudible]
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I felt like we were being judged.
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Then we asked about medical history
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because some of us,
we have autoimmune disorders and stuff.
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He said that there was nothing
that we needed to worry about.
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He had a piece of paper with him
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that he brought scripture on.
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Jeremiah 1:5.
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[Jacoba inhaling deeply]
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[Jacoba] I remember him looking at me
and going, "Jacoba, this is for you."
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Because he knew
I was having a hard time with this,
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00:27:07,751 --> 00:27:10,086
and I'm like, "Put that shit away."
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00:27:10,962 --> 00:27:14,591
I said... I did, I said,
"Just put that shit away."
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00:27:14,674 --> 00:27:18,136
"You're not gonna use my God
to justify your actions."
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00:27:19,638 --> 00:27:23,975
One of my siblings did ask him
why he used his own sperm.
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And he said that he only did it
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because he felt like the mothers
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were just basically desperate for a child,
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and he was doing it to help them.
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Finally, he said that the absolute number,
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there would not be more than 15 siblings.
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00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:46,331
[numbers clicking]
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00:27:46,414 --> 00:27:48,083
[man moaning]
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00:27:48,166 --> 00:27:50,168
[suspenseful music playing]
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00:27:51,878 --> 00:27:53,463
[man] It's just too fucked up.
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00:27:58,635 --> 00:28:00,011
[sighing heavily]
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00:28:00,095 --> 00:28:02,263
I... I just felt bad for my mother.
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00:28:04,307 --> 00:28:05,307
I mean...
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00:28:07,268 --> 00:28:08,520
here she was, you know,
448
00:28:08,603 --> 00:28:11,648
a young woman
just wanting to have a family
449
00:28:11,731 --> 00:28:13,024
like anyone else.
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00:28:19,572 --> 00:28:22,909
It's a sick individual
that puts themselves in that position
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00:28:22,992 --> 00:28:24,202
to be able to do that.
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00:28:28,331 --> 00:28:32,001
There are parts of me that wish
that I never had to deal with infertility.
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00:28:39,426 --> 00:28:41,094
I wish that walk on no one.
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00:28:45,390 --> 00:28:48,643
The way it worked
for me with Cline is, uh,
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I would go to his office.
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00:28:52,063 --> 00:28:52,897
[keys jangling]
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00:28:52,981 --> 00:28:55,859
[Liz] He was always
the only one in the office,
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whether I was coming in
on a weekend or during the week,
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00:28:58,528 --> 00:29:01,072
during the midday, or late evening.
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00:29:01,656 --> 00:29:04,951
He was the only one that greeted me
in his office, which was strange.
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00:29:06,619 --> 00:29:07,619
[door closing]
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00:29:09,038 --> 00:29:11,458
[Liz] And now the truth is that,
463
00:29:11,541 --> 00:29:13,460
as Cline was closing the door
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00:29:13,543 --> 00:29:16,004
and I'm undressing
and putting my feet in the stirrups
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00:29:16,087 --> 00:29:19,466
getting ready for him
to bring in the donor's sperm,
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00:29:19,966 --> 00:29:24,804
he was in the... some other place
in the office ejaculating,
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00:29:24,888 --> 00:29:28,558
and not only creating the erection,
but he has to go in full force
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00:29:28,641 --> 00:29:31,394
in a sexual manner
to create that ejaculation.
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00:29:32,270 --> 00:29:36,691
To me, that has always remained
a very sad part to me,
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and disgusting.
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00:29:39,569 --> 00:29:42,530
That he was placing then his semen
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into some kind of syringe,
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00:29:46,117 --> 00:29:50,997
and then he's got to place that syringe
at the base of my cervix.
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00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:52,665
[unnerving music playing]
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00:29:53,249 --> 00:29:54,793
[Liz] The fact that he
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00:29:55,877 --> 00:29:58,463
was still in an endocrine high
477
00:29:58,546 --> 00:30:00,548
from having the ejaculation
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00:30:01,716 --> 00:30:04,803
has no place in a medical setting.
479
00:30:04,886 --> 00:30:06,888
[breath shuddering]
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00:30:08,264 --> 00:30:11,684
[Liz] When Matt's DNA test came back...
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my first words were,
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00:30:19,609 --> 00:30:22,278
"I was raped 15 times
and didn't even know it."
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00:30:27,242 --> 00:30:29,661
[Matt] This is unbelievable.
484
00:30:30,370 --> 00:30:31,996
How the fuck did no one know?
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00:30:32,497 --> 00:30:35,959
I mean, just even the act of what he did
486
00:30:36,042 --> 00:30:38,545
for so many years,
487
00:30:38,628 --> 00:30:41,339
and to just get away with it
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00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:45,844
for decades, and no one knew anything.
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00:30:46,511 --> 00:30:48,137
No one in the office?
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00:30:48,763 --> 00:30:49,763
Come on.
491
00:30:50,723 --> 00:30:52,267
Well, here's the thing.
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00:30:53,268 --> 00:30:55,103
There wasn't much traffic
on that first floor
493
00:30:55,186 --> 00:30:57,438
other than
we'd come directly into our office.
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00:30:57,522 --> 00:31:00,942
Don could have
clearly collected a specimen,
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00:31:01,442 --> 00:31:04,028
and then he got it back,
and no one would know.
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00:31:04,112 --> 00:31:06,823
They could... The nurse
could be in there for the insemination.
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00:31:06,906 --> 00:31:10,201
They wouldn't know if it was
a donor from the hospital or not.
498
00:31:12,245 --> 00:31:15,790
Dr. Colver and I have discussed it,
and we had no idea.
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00:31:16,374 --> 00:31:19,419
It just was never a thought,
500
00:31:19,502 --> 00:31:22,005
because it was so totally opposite
501
00:31:23,131 --> 00:31:25,300
from his normal behavior.
502
00:31:26,759 --> 00:31:28,511
[dramatic music playing]
503
00:31:32,557 --> 00:31:35,018
[Angela] This was a person
of a position of power.
504
00:31:35,602 --> 00:31:37,770
He's known in our community
as a philanthropist.
505
00:31:37,854 --> 00:31:40,398
He's known in our community
as an elder of the church.
506
00:31:42,275 --> 00:31:43,902
[Jan] He was always a doctor.
507
00:31:44,652 --> 00:31:47,363
He was not gonna sit there
and chat with you.
508
00:31:47,947 --> 00:31:49,991
It was all pretty much
509
00:31:51,326 --> 00:31:53,786
doctor-person relationship.
510
00:31:54,871 --> 00:31:57,749
Or a stern father figure,
511
00:31:57,832 --> 00:32:00,960
if, you know,
if you can relate better to that.
512
00:32:02,211 --> 00:32:06,090
Mark was stationed
at Grissom Air Force Base,
513
00:32:06,174 --> 00:32:07,675
and so was Don,
514
00:32:07,759 --> 00:32:11,596
and we were socially friendly.
515
00:32:11,679 --> 00:32:15,183
I would say arrogant fits him,
for some reason.
516
00:32:15,266 --> 00:32:18,937
I mean, I don't know
exactly why I felt that way.
517
00:32:19,020 --> 00:32:23,107
You... you do because you were
in study groups and so on.
518
00:32:23,983 --> 00:32:27,904
Uh, he was... he was okay.
I mean, he obviously was a bright guy.
519
00:32:27,987 --> 00:32:29,989
He thought he knew... He did know a lot.
520
00:32:30,073 --> 00:32:31,658
He always was confident.
521
00:32:32,241 --> 00:32:33,618
He always was self-assured.
522
00:32:33,701 --> 00:32:36,579
He wasn't... I never saw him doubt
523
00:32:37,372 --> 00:32:39,874
that what he was doing wasn't right.
524
00:32:42,251 --> 00:32:45,713
If you knew something,
and he knew something, he knew more.
525
00:32:46,714 --> 00:32:48,383
That was his attitude.
526
00:32:49,425 --> 00:32:54,764
He always belittled
how much I knew about child de...
527
00:32:54,847 --> 00:32:57,141
You know, child development, even.
528
00:32:57,934 --> 00:33:00,395
I mean, that was my area of specialty.
529
00:33:00,478 --> 00:33:05,274
Uh, I... I have a PhD in neurobiology,
530
00:33:05,358 --> 00:33:08,653
and I'm also, um,
an occupational therapist,
531
00:33:08,736 --> 00:33:11,030
and I treated preemies.
532
00:33:12,073 --> 00:33:13,408
But he knew more.
533
00:33:16,119 --> 00:33:17,662
If you crossed him...
534
00:33:18,246 --> 00:33:19,414
[imitates squelching]
535
00:33:19,497 --> 00:33:20,497
...that was it.
536
00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:23,918
- [phone ringing]
- [indistinct chatter]
537
00:33:27,130 --> 00:33:31,217
[Angela] The first conversations
that I had with Dr. Cline,
538
00:33:31,300 --> 00:33:33,761
he told me
that he was protected under HIPAA.
539
00:33:34,262 --> 00:33:38,224
He told me that I could be sued
or that Fox 59 could be sued.
540
00:33:38,307 --> 00:33:39,308
[phone ringing]
541
00:33:40,018 --> 00:33:43,062
[Angela] He made it very clear
that I needed to be careful.
542
00:33:44,188 --> 00:33:46,524
[Jacoba] So, that's when Cline called me.
543
00:33:47,525 --> 00:33:48,901
I was in shock.
544
00:33:48,985 --> 00:33:50,862
I don't know what it was in me.
545
00:33:51,654 --> 00:33:54,615
He called my home phone,
and I recorded that conversation.
546
00:33:55,408 --> 00:33:56,868
- [Don] Jacoba?
- [Jacoba] Yes.
547
00:33:56,951 --> 00:33:57,785
[door squeaking]
548
00:33:57,869 --> 00:33:59,620
Uh, this is Dr. Cline.
549
00:34:00,246 --> 00:34:03,332
Uh, do you have time
to talk with me just a little bit?
550
00:34:03,416 --> 00:34:05,293
- [Jacoba] Yes.
- [Don] Okay.
551
00:34:05,793 --> 00:34:10,923
Um, I'm getting, uh,
a real problem with, um,
552
00:34:11,674 --> 00:34:15,803
uh, the television station, um, 59.
553
00:34:15,887 --> 00:34:16,929
[Jacoba] Mm-hmm.
554
00:34:17,013 --> 00:34:22,351
[Don] Um, they are demanding,
um, that I meet with them.
555
00:34:23,728 --> 00:34:25,438
Uh, I can't do that.
556
00:34:25,521 --> 00:34:29,025
Uh, it's not fair to me.
It's not fair to you all.
557
00:34:30,193 --> 00:34:32,737
Uh, they're... they're trying to make a, um...
558
00:34:34,322 --> 00:34:36,324
[Don sighing] Oh...
559
00:34:36,407 --> 00:34:39,619
They're... they're trying to, um...
560
00:34:41,704 --> 00:34:43,581
improve their ratings,
561
00:34:44,499 --> 00:34:50,880
and, um, my wife and I,
after 57 years of marriage...
562
00:34:50,963 --> 00:34:54,175
Um, if... if this comes out,
563
00:34:55,218 --> 00:34:57,845
uh, our marriage will be over.
564
00:34:58,638 --> 00:34:59,638
Um,
565
00:35:00,431 --> 00:35:01,474
can you help?
566
00:35:02,308 --> 00:35:05,645
[Jacoba inhaling deeply]
I mean, no disrespect,
567
00:35:05,728 --> 00:35:09,899
but I feel like what you're telling me
is to keep my life a secret.
568
00:35:09,982 --> 00:35:15,029
That I am not allowed to know who I am...
569
00:35:16,155 --> 00:35:18,533
- [Don] Well...
- ...when I didn't do anything wrong.
570
00:35:19,325 --> 00:35:22,161
[Don] Well, yes, but you know, I didn't...
571
00:35:22,245 --> 00:35:25,540
At the time, I didn't feel like
I was doing anything wrong either.
572
00:35:25,623 --> 00:35:29,043
[Jacoba] But you... I feel like I'm
being blamed for this, like it's my fault.
573
00:35:29,127 --> 00:35:30,586
I don't understand.
574
00:35:31,254 --> 00:35:36,300
[Don] It's, uh, it's your fault
because I don't care who you tell.
575
00:35:36,384 --> 00:35:37,426
It's just
576
00:35:38,386 --> 00:35:43,182
putting it on television
for the entire world to see.
577
00:35:43,683 --> 00:35:45,309
[Jacoba's breath shuddering]
578
00:35:45,393 --> 00:35:48,938
[Jacoba] Well, I... I cannot...
Like I said, I can't control her.
579
00:35:49,021 --> 00:35:51,440
I can't stop that. I can't.
580
00:35:52,108 --> 00:35:55,945
[Don] Well, because you... you...
you can stop talking to her and say,
581
00:35:56,028 --> 00:35:58,781
"You know,
I... I just don't want to share anymore."
582
00:36:00,283 --> 00:36:02,243
I'm just telling you what's gonna happen,
583
00:36:02,326 --> 00:36:04,871
and I'm going to be hurt badly.
584
00:36:04,954 --> 00:36:08,749
[Jacoba sniffs] Well, that's
what's happened to everybody so far,
585
00:36:09,250 --> 00:36:13,171
and you know,
that... that's because of the actions...
586
00:36:13,254 --> 00:36:15,923
[Don] This tells me that
that's exactly what you want.
587
00:36:16,883 --> 00:36:18,342
[printer whirring]
588
00:36:18,426 --> 00:36:20,261
[suspenseful music playing]
589
00:36:24,182 --> 00:36:27,476
[Jacoba] When you push me,
I'm gonna push back 100 times more.
590
00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:29,812
So when he called me, it's like,
591
00:36:30,521 --> 00:36:31,647
"Bring it on."
592
00:36:31,731 --> 00:36:33,608
["All My Tears" by Ane Brun playing]
593
00:36:33,691 --> 00:36:36,611
[Jacoba] "Bring it on
because I'm ready to fight you."
594
00:36:37,111 --> 00:36:39,822
♪ When I go, don't cry for me ♪
595
00:36:39,906 --> 00:36:42,533
♪ In my Father's arms, I'll be ♪
596
00:36:42,617 --> 00:36:46,370
[Jacoba] I contacted
the Attorney General's office again
597
00:36:46,454 --> 00:36:49,540
to get a status on this complaint,
598
00:36:49,624 --> 00:36:52,293
and nobody was returning my calls.
599
00:36:52,376 --> 00:36:55,504
♪ Sun and moon will be replaced ♪
600
00:36:55,588 --> 00:36:57,089
♪ With the light of... ♪
601
00:36:57,173 --> 00:36:59,759
[Jacoba] So I decided
to investigate him myself.
602
00:37:00,927 --> 00:37:03,346
♪ And I will not be ashamed ♪
603
00:37:03,429 --> 00:37:05,598
♪ For my Savior knows my name ♪
604
00:37:05,681 --> 00:37:08,517
[Jacoba] I started researching
everything about him,
605
00:37:09,435 --> 00:37:13,147
from papers written, to articles,
606
00:37:13,231 --> 00:37:18,361
to conferences he had attended, to blogs.
607
00:37:18,444 --> 00:37:22,949
♪ It don't matter anywhere I lay ♪
608
00:37:23,032 --> 00:37:24,867
[Jacoba] It was so much research.
609
00:37:24,951 --> 00:37:27,119
♪ All my tears be washed away ♪
610
00:37:28,079 --> 00:37:30,164
[Jacoba] I had just papers everywhere
611
00:37:30,248 --> 00:37:33,542
to prove that I wasn't some crazy maniac.
612
00:37:33,626 --> 00:37:35,628
♪ All my tears be washed away ♪
613
00:37:35,711 --> 00:37:37,546
[Jacoba] He wanted me to keep quiet.
614
00:37:38,047 --> 00:37:39,548
And he wanted me to keep quiet
615
00:37:39,632 --> 00:37:42,301
because he knew
that there were more siblings.
616
00:37:43,344 --> 00:37:44,637
[song fades]
617
00:37:44,720 --> 00:37:46,180
[numbers clicking]
618
00:37:46,264 --> 00:37:48,057
[man moaning]
619
00:37:48,140 --> 00:37:49,809
[tense music playing]
620
00:37:49,892 --> 00:37:52,853
[woman] My husband
gave me a DNA test as a gift,
621
00:37:54,438 --> 00:37:57,733
and then I got a message saying,
622
00:37:58,442 --> 00:37:59,819
"I think we're related."
623
00:38:03,614 --> 00:38:06,659
When it all hit me, I kind of
624
00:38:07,368 --> 00:38:10,329
just sat and stared
for the rest of the day.
625
00:38:11,205 --> 00:38:14,583
And then, for the next couple of weeks,
had a complete identity crisis,
626
00:38:14,667 --> 00:38:16,294
and I couldn't look in the mirror.
627
00:38:16,377 --> 00:38:19,255
I didn't wanna think
about where I got my hair from,
628
00:38:19,338 --> 00:38:20,923
or where I got my eyes from,
629
00:38:21,465 --> 00:38:23,801
because I had always thought
those were from my dad.
630
00:38:25,261 --> 00:38:29,056
There was never any reason
that I would have questioned anything.
631
00:38:29,765 --> 00:38:31,350
My parents trusted their doctor,
632
00:38:31,434 --> 00:38:34,228
who said that it would be
better for me to not know,
633
00:38:34,770 --> 00:38:36,397
and that I would never find out.
634
00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:38,357
[dramatic music playing]
635
00:38:39,984 --> 00:38:42,570
[Jacoba] Every time
that a new sibling pops up,
636
00:38:43,446 --> 00:38:46,449
I know that I'm going to call them,
637
00:38:46,532 --> 00:38:50,411
and I know
that, um, I'm going to ruin their life.
638
00:38:52,496 --> 00:38:56,375
It's hard because we know
what we went through.
639
00:38:56,459 --> 00:39:00,046
[crying] And we're making someone else
go through this exact same thing.
640
00:39:00,713 --> 00:39:02,715
[birds chirping]
641
00:39:03,632 --> 00:39:07,595
[Heather] The first people who reached out
to me were Julie and Jacoba.
642
00:39:09,305 --> 00:39:12,641
I messaged them back and said,
"I need some time to process."
643
00:39:12,725 --> 00:39:14,226
"I'll reach back out later."
644
00:39:14,310 --> 00:39:16,729
Um, and so
it was probably a couple of months
645
00:39:16,812 --> 00:39:19,815
before I, um, actually reached out
646
00:39:19,899 --> 00:39:22,526
to... to have a conversation with anyone.
647
00:39:22,610 --> 00:39:23,861
Um,
648
00:39:24,820 --> 00:39:26,405
your world is changing.
649
00:39:30,743 --> 00:39:33,204
[Jacoba] When you have
new siblings pop up,
650
00:39:34,205 --> 00:39:36,040
you are on the phone with them for hours
651
00:39:36,123 --> 00:39:39,335
because it's the worst day of their life.
652
00:39:41,921 --> 00:39:44,340
You've lived that over and over and over.
653
00:39:47,843 --> 00:39:49,678
[numbers clicking]
654
00:39:49,762 --> 00:39:51,764
[man moaning]
655
00:39:54,016 --> 00:39:56,936
[woman] I asked
for a DNA test for Christmas,
656
00:39:57,603 --> 00:39:59,563
and I was really confused
657
00:39:59,647 --> 00:40:02,233
'cause all of these random names to me
658
00:40:02,316 --> 00:40:05,653
were popping up,
and it said, "Close Family."
659
00:40:06,278 --> 00:40:08,656
And so I really did not know
what "Close Family" meant.
660
00:40:08,739 --> 00:40:11,325
It did... did not even...
I did not even think,
661
00:40:11,409 --> 00:40:13,828
"Oh, brother or sister,"
I didn't even think, "Cousin."
662
00:40:13,953 --> 00:40:16,163
I got a message
that a new sibling popped up,
663
00:40:16,247 --> 00:40:19,417
and I logged in,
and it said, you know, "Lisa,"
664
00:40:19,500 --> 00:40:22,920
and her last name,
and I was like, "Huh, I know her."
665
00:40:23,421 --> 00:40:26,507
Her husband taught
my daughter on the softball team.
666
00:40:26,590 --> 00:40:30,761
Um, my daughter and her daughter
played basketball together.
667
00:40:30,845 --> 00:40:32,165
I sent her a message, and I said,
668
00:40:32,221 --> 00:40:34,849
"Hey, did you happen
to do an Ancestry test?"
669
00:40:34,932 --> 00:40:37,768
She said, "Well, do you know
about the Dr. Cline story?"
670
00:40:37,852 --> 00:40:39,520
And she said, "He's our father."
671
00:40:40,396 --> 00:40:43,899
And I honestly, I started laughing.
672
00:40:43,983 --> 00:40:48,362
I... I was... thought Julie was kind of crazy.
I was like, "What are you talking about?"
673
00:40:48,446 --> 00:40:51,031
"There... there's no way he can be my dad."
674
00:40:52,241 --> 00:40:53,951
And then I called my mom.
675
00:40:54,660 --> 00:40:59,999
I said, "Hey, Mom, did you and Dad
ever have any issues conceiving me?"
676
00:41:00,082 --> 00:41:02,710
She said, "Well, I didn't,
but yeah, your dad did."
677
00:41:03,627 --> 00:41:06,422
And so my heart dropped a little bit.
678
00:41:06,505 --> 00:41:09,216
And she said,
"He actually had a low sperm count,
679
00:41:09,300 --> 00:41:12,636
and his doctor recommended us
to a specialist."
680
00:41:13,137 --> 00:41:15,931
I said, "Mom,
was this specialist in Indianapolis?"
681
00:41:16,015 --> 00:41:17,600
And she said, "Yeah, why?"
682
00:41:17,683 --> 00:41:19,977
And I said, "Was it Dr. Donald Cline?"
683
00:41:20,060 --> 00:41:21,520
And she said, "Yes."
684
00:41:21,604 --> 00:41:23,481
[dramatic music playing]
685
00:41:24,231 --> 00:41:25,316
[Lisa] She said,
686
00:41:25,399 --> 00:41:27,985
"I went and had the procedure done twice,
687
00:41:28,068 --> 00:41:32,490
but both times your father
was there with me and provided a sample."
688
00:41:34,700 --> 00:41:39,538
And so, at that point,
I realized my mom and dad had no idea.
689
00:41:40,122 --> 00:41:43,876
They thought all along
that I was my dad's.
690
00:41:45,336 --> 00:41:47,338
[unnerving music playing]
691
00:41:49,798 --> 00:41:51,091
[Lisa] I worry for my kids,
692
00:41:52,092 --> 00:41:55,387
especially I have siblings
that live in the same town as me,
693
00:41:55,471 --> 00:41:56,871
and our kids go to school together.
694
00:41:56,931 --> 00:42:00,518
And so, I've had to have the talk
with my daughter about,
695
00:42:01,352 --> 00:42:04,271
"You've got to be careful
when you start dating."
696
00:42:04,772 --> 00:42:08,651
"We got to be aware
of who this person is,"
697
00:42:08,734 --> 00:42:11,153
but it's definitely a huge concern.
698
00:42:13,531 --> 00:42:15,950
When we get a new sibling alert,
699
00:42:16,742 --> 00:42:20,204
you're praying,
"Please don't let it be somebody I know."
700
00:42:20,287 --> 00:42:22,581
Or "Please don't let it be
somebody I dated."
701
00:42:23,457 --> 00:42:25,584
And I'm sure it's bound to happen.
702
00:42:26,752 --> 00:42:28,754
[train horn blaring]
703
00:42:31,924 --> 00:42:36,303
[Jacoba] The majority of us live in,
like, a 25-mile radius of each other.
704
00:42:36,929 --> 00:42:40,349
There's also quite a few
that live within minutes of Cline.
705
00:42:43,435 --> 00:42:45,437
[suspenseful music playing]
706
00:42:50,401 --> 00:42:52,152
[Jacoba sighing] I walk around,
707
00:42:53,112 --> 00:42:55,447
and I could be related to anyone.
708
00:42:57,533 --> 00:43:02,037
I mean, it's just common for me
to pass people on the street,
709
00:43:02,121 --> 00:43:04,665
um, at work, wherever I may be,
710
00:43:04,748 --> 00:43:07,376
and, I mean, I'll look at them and think,
711
00:43:07,459 --> 00:43:10,421
"Oh, the way you stand, the way you look."
712
00:43:11,630 --> 00:43:12,965
"You could be related to me."
713
00:43:18,304 --> 00:43:21,223
[Matt] We live in this small community.
714
00:43:21,932 --> 00:43:23,434
[crows cawing]
715
00:43:23,517 --> 00:43:25,436
[Matt] Everyone that you interact with
716
00:43:25,519 --> 00:43:27,980
appears to have
some sort of connection to Cline.
717
00:43:29,189 --> 00:43:31,984
My dentist across the street
was a patient of his.
718
00:43:32,610 --> 00:43:37,823
My next-door neighbor
was the nurse to one of my half-siblings,
719
00:43:37,906 --> 00:43:40,159
and then there's this connection,
720
00:43:40,242 --> 00:43:41,702
or there's that connection.
721
00:43:41,785 --> 00:43:44,580
"Oh, my mom saw them at the nail salon."
722
00:43:55,799 --> 00:43:59,637
I think without a doubt,
there are probably people that I've met
723
00:43:59,720 --> 00:44:03,265
that are my half-sibling,
and I just don't even know it.
724
00:44:03,349 --> 00:44:04,767
They don't even know it.
725
00:44:04,850 --> 00:44:06,852
[high-pitched whirring]
726
00:44:12,608 --> 00:44:14,610
[kids clamoring indistinctly]
727
00:44:17,404 --> 00:44:19,406
[suspenseful music playing]
728
00:44:28,749 --> 00:44:30,959
[Jacoba] Who knows
how many siblings we have?
729
00:44:31,043 --> 00:44:32,795
[birds chirping]
730
00:44:34,129 --> 00:44:35,798
[phone ringing]
731
00:44:37,675 --> 00:44:40,177
[Angela] I had emailed Dr. Cline
and told him,
732
00:44:40,260 --> 00:44:42,888
"We're moving forward with the story.
We would be using his name."
733
00:44:42,971 --> 00:44:47,935
You know, "This is the time
for you to come clean to the public."
734
00:44:48,936 --> 00:44:52,106
So, finally, he said, "If there's no audio
and no video, I will meet with you."
735
00:44:53,107 --> 00:44:55,317
I asked him if he wanted
to come to FOX 59.
736
00:44:55,401 --> 00:44:56,819
He said no. I said,
737
00:44:56,902 --> 00:44:59,488
"There's a restaurant
close to the TV station."
738
00:44:59,571 --> 00:45:01,251
And I wanted to be close to the TV station
739
00:45:01,323 --> 00:45:03,117
because I wanted
to make sure for my safety.
740
00:45:03,200 --> 00:45:05,786
I wanted it to be someplace
that I felt safe.
741
00:45:06,704 --> 00:45:10,708
My boss at that time wanted me
to take our security guard with us
742
00:45:10,791 --> 00:45:13,210
because she feared for my safety.
743
00:45:13,293 --> 00:45:16,213
We knew that Dr. Cline
did not want to, quote, "be outed,"
744
00:45:16,296 --> 00:45:20,092
and Jacoba told me that he carried a gun.
745
00:45:20,592 --> 00:45:22,261
We thought that he was desperate.
746
00:45:22,845 --> 00:45:24,847
- [car horn honking]
- [dog barking]
747
00:45:24,930 --> 00:45:29,226
[Don] She is, um, uh,
demanding I meet with... with them.
748
00:45:31,478 --> 00:45:33,981
They're going to force me to do this.
749
00:45:34,064 --> 00:45:36,316
- [Jacoba] Mm-hmm.
- [Don] I've gotta tell the truth.
750
00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:39,194
- [Jacoba] Mm-hmm. Well...
- [Don] And I don't want to do that.
751
00:45:40,028 --> 00:45:41,697
[Angela] I was very nervous,
752
00:45:41,780 --> 00:45:44,867
and when he came in,
it was within minutes he's asking me
753
00:45:44,950 --> 00:45:47,286
if guns are allowed in the restaurant.
754
00:45:47,369 --> 00:45:49,830
And I'm thinking,
"What a weird thing to say to me."
755
00:45:49,913 --> 00:45:53,417
Then I'm looking down, and it looks like
he has a gun underneath his sweater.
756
00:45:53,500 --> 00:45:56,003
There's something bulging
on the side, and I'm thinking,
757
00:45:56,587 --> 00:45:59,381
"I don't wanna be crazy,
but is there any chance
758
00:45:59,882 --> 00:46:01,592
that he could pull out a gun
and shoot me?"
759
00:46:01,675 --> 00:46:03,218
I honestly thought that.
760
00:46:03,302 --> 00:46:05,053
[indistinct chatter]
761
00:46:06,972 --> 00:46:09,558
[Angela] One of the first things
he said in our conversation
762
00:46:09,641 --> 00:46:11,226
was that he knew where I lived,
763
00:46:11,310 --> 00:46:12,895
and he knew where I was from.
764
00:46:12,978 --> 00:46:15,355
Remember, this was
after he had said before,
765
00:46:16,231 --> 00:46:17,274
"Be careful."
766
00:46:18,609 --> 00:46:20,444
The meeting was about an hour long,
767
00:46:20,527 --> 00:46:23,405
and I feel like he was begging me
768
00:46:24,198 --> 00:46:26,200
to not air the story.
769
00:46:26,992 --> 00:46:28,660
He said, "It will ruin my marriage."
770
00:46:29,536 --> 00:46:32,372
"It will hurt my church.
I'm an elder at the church."
771
00:46:32,456 --> 00:46:33,290
[inaudible]
772
00:46:33,373 --> 00:46:37,711
[Angela] I let him know that we have
that burden to tell the truth,
773
00:46:37,795 --> 00:46:40,047
and the truth matters.
774
00:46:42,716 --> 00:46:44,343
[crows cawing]
775
00:46:44,968 --> 00:46:46,720
[birds chirping]
776
00:46:46,804 --> 00:46:50,849
[Jacoba] So that's when, like,
the whole whirlwind just started with him,
777
00:46:50,933 --> 00:46:54,186
and strange things started happening.
778
00:46:55,062 --> 00:46:56,814
[suspenseful music playing]
779
00:46:57,481 --> 00:46:59,066
[Jacoba] I had woke up one day,
780
00:46:59,566 --> 00:47:03,028
and all of the lug nuts
were missing off of my car.
781
00:47:04,279 --> 00:47:06,323
And I'm talking all four tires.
782
00:47:14,081 --> 00:47:15,249
And that's scary.
783
00:47:15,332 --> 00:47:16,583
[breath shuddering]
784
00:47:16,667 --> 00:47:18,460
So, yeah.
785
00:47:18,544 --> 00:47:19,544
[chuckles lightly]
786
00:47:20,128 --> 00:47:21,128
Um...
787
00:47:21,672 --> 00:47:24,591
[crying] And you can't tell me
that that's like some freak...
788
00:47:25,425 --> 00:47:26,425
Yeah.
789
00:47:30,222 --> 00:47:31,223
I was hacked.
790
00:47:31,723 --> 00:47:36,228
Everything that I had saved
to a Google Drive
791
00:47:36,311 --> 00:47:40,440
of publications of Cline was just erased,
792
00:47:40,983 --> 00:47:45,988
and every single email
regarding him was gone.
793
00:47:46,071 --> 00:47:48,073
[unnerving music playing]
794
00:47:49,157 --> 00:47:51,493
[Heather] Soon after I went public,
795
00:47:51,577 --> 00:47:53,954
I started getting harassing phone calls,
796
00:47:54,037 --> 00:47:56,081
like the cemetery
797
00:47:56,164 --> 00:47:58,250
asking if I wanted to buy a plot
798
00:47:58,834 --> 00:48:00,210
for me to be buried in.
799
00:48:02,796 --> 00:48:05,299
I think it was to rattle me.
800
00:48:05,382 --> 00:48:06,508
Um...
801
00:48:08,760 --> 00:48:12,014
to... to re-traumatize me
so that I would be quiet.
802
00:48:12,764 --> 00:48:18,270
I don't think he wanted, um, any of us
to talk publicly if he could help it.
803
00:48:20,856 --> 00:48:24,067
[Jacoba] In my gut, I feel
like we're being harassed and stalked
804
00:48:24,151 --> 00:48:25,944
to get us to shut up,
805
00:48:26,028 --> 00:48:29,197
especially when Cline called
and threatened me over the phone.
806
00:48:31,074 --> 00:48:34,244
[Don] What you're doing is
that you're telling the world,
807
00:48:35,495 --> 00:48:38,248
and the world doesn't need to know.
808
00:48:40,918 --> 00:48:43,462
- I...
- [Jacoba] I'm not trying to do harm.
809
00:48:44,379 --> 00:48:45,881
[Don] Well, you are.
810
00:48:46,381 --> 00:48:48,383
[sinister music playing]
811
00:48:50,093 --> 00:48:51,970
[Jacoba] I'm not scared of you.
812
00:48:54,806 --> 00:48:56,224
You can threaten me,
813
00:48:57,351 --> 00:48:59,436
but I will never back down.
814
00:49:02,522 --> 00:49:04,399
I am going to expose you.
815
00:49:06,193 --> 00:49:07,945
[suspenseful music playing]
816
00:49:09,404 --> 00:49:11,949
[Jacoba] And I'm gonna expose
all of your secrets.
817
00:49:14,993 --> 00:49:16,995
[birds chirping]
818
00:49:19,456 --> 00:49:21,124
[Jacoba] I found out that
819
00:49:22,167 --> 00:49:24,002
in 1963...
820
00:49:24,086 --> 00:49:25,087
[whistling]
821
00:49:26,129 --> 00:49:27,547
[Jacoba]...he was driving...
822
00:49:31,259 --> 00:49:33,220
[girl giggling, screaming playfully]
823
00:49:35,472 --> 00:49:39,351
[Jacoba]...and this little girl
darted out between two cars...
824
00:49:41,353 --> 00:49:43,355
- [thudding]
- [tires screeching]
825
00:49:43,855 --> 00:49:45,565
[Jacoba]...and he hit her.
826
00:49:45,649 --> 00:49:47,651
- [inaudible]
- [suspenseful music playing]
827
00:49:47,734 --> 00:49:49,736
[birds chirping]
828
00:49:50,445 --> 00:49:52,447
[Don breathing heavily]
829
00:49:54,199 --> 00:49:58,120
[woman] No!
830
00:49:58,203 --> 00:50:00,205
[woman screaming]
831
00:50:03,500 --> 00:50:04,918
[Jacoba] She ended up dying.
832
00:50:07,879 --> 00:50:11,466
He has told everybody
that's when he changed his life.
833
00:50:13,218 --> 00:50:14,511
That's when he found God.
834
00:50:16,722 --> 00:50:18,306
[music fades]
835
00:50:19,224 --> 00:50:21,226
[Mark] That traumatized him.
836
00:50:22,060 --> 00:50:25,230
After that, he became more religious
837
00:50:25,313 --> 00:50:28,650
and, um, churchgoing
than he had been before.
838
00:50:30,277 --> 00:50:32,946
Maybe he thought
that this was his way of giving back,
839
00:50:33,030 --> 00:50:35,240
that he took a life
that really wasn't his fault.
840
00:50:35,323 --> 00:50:37,242
Now, he was going to give back.
841
00:50:37,325 --> 00:50:40,954
Maybe that was a psychological process
going through his mind.
842
00:50:41,038 --> 00:50:46,084
But it doesn't really matter
because that should not have been a way
843
00:50:46,168 --> 00:50:48,712
that he was trying...
to try to, uh, make amends
844
00:50:48,795 --> 00:50:50,881
for some terrible accident that happened.
845
00:50:50,964 --> 00:50:52,716
[dramatic music playing]
846
00:50:53,633 --> 00:50:56,428
[Jan] He was very religious,
847
00:50:57,137 --> 00:51:00,891
had very deep roots,
848
00:51:00,974 --> 00:51:04,478
and he and his wife taught
marriage counseling in their church.
849
00:51:04,561 --> 00:51:06,146
They taught Sunday school.
850
00:51:06,772 --> 00:51:10,233
And whenever he was
in the office and all of us were there,
851
00:51:10,317 --> 00:51:14,696
he would sit down, and we would wait,
and he would say a prayer.
852
00:51:16,573 --> 00:51:18,992
He, at some point, asked me
853
00:51:19,826 --> 00:51:21,495
if I was Jewish,
854
00:51:22,079 --> 00:51:24,581
and I said yes.
855
00:51:24,664 --> 00:51:28,627
And I said, "And by the way,
I'm very uncomfortable with your office
856
00:51:28,710 --> 00:51:31,088
full of all kinds of Christian sayings."
857
00:51:31,171 --> 00:51:34,299
Things like,
"If you want to get into heaven,
858
00:51:34,883 --> 00:51:36,343
you need to be Christian."
859
00:51:39,554 --> 00:51:41,556
[bell ringing]
860
00:51:46,061 --> 00:51:47,938
Yeah. I knew... I knew Donald Cline.
861
00:51:49,648 --> 00:51:51,191
[sprinklers running]
862
00:51:51,274 --> 00:51:53,819
[man] The church is set up
where they have an eldership.
863
00:51:53,902 --> 00:51:57,155
So they have seven or eight men
864
00:51:57,239 --> 00:52:01,076
that governed the church body
as far as what was taught,
865
00:52:01,576 --> 00:52:04,579
and he was one of those elders.
866
00:52:06,832 --> 00:52:11,545
We would go over
to his house for baptisms.
867
00:52:13,004 --> 00:52:17,843
Literally, 50 to 100 people
would attend baptisms
868
00:52:17,926 --> 00:52:20,137
right there in their...
at their swimming pool.
869
00:52:21,179 --> 00:52:23,014
[water sloshing]
870
00:52:23,098 --> 00:52:25,350
[man] That's where
we really got to know them.
871
00:52:26,101 --> 00:52:28,228
From a Christian perspective,
you have to say,
872
00:52:28,311 --> 00:52:30,438
"Hey, we... we all have
skeletons in our closet."
873
00:52:30,522 --> 00:52:33,650
"We all have done things
that we regret doing."
874
00:52:33,733 --> 00:52:35,610
[suspenseful music playing]
875
00:52:36,236 --> 00:52:38,905
[man] I know that he and God
have reconciled that.
876
00:52:41,533 --> 00:52:45,078
That he's been forgiven,
and that he has moved on from that,
877
00:52:45,162 --> 00:52:47,164
and he's a different person now.
878
00:52:49,082 --> 00:52:52,335
[Jacoba] He portrays himself
as this godly man.
879
00:52:52,961 --> 00:52:54,629
And I know we all make mistakes,
880
00:52:54,713 --> 00:52:57,549
but I think there's more behind this.
881
00:52:57,632 --> 00:52:59,259
What made him
882
00:53:00,093 --> 00:53:03,722
every day wake up
and decide to go into his work,
883
00:53:05,265 --> 00:53:06,391
masturbate,
884
00:53:07,350 --> 00:53:11,479
and place it unknowingly
inside women without their consent.
885
00:53:15,817 --> 00:53:17,527
He could've stopped at any point,
886
00:53:17,611 --> 00:53:21,406
but he kept doing it
over and over and over and over.
887
00:53:22,324 --> 00:53:24,159
[numbers clicking]
888
00:53:24,242 --> 00:53:26,244
[man moaning]
889
00:53:37,255 --> 00:53:41,176
[man] Growing up, I kind of knew
that something was off.
890
00:53:41,259 --> 00:53:42,719
Something was different.
891
00:53:48,058 --> 00:53:50,977
You know,
why do I got blond hair, blue eyes?
892
00:53:51,061 --> 00:53:52,604
[keypad beeping]
893
00:53:53,230 --> 00:53:55,982
[man] Everyone in my family
has dark eyes and dark hair.
894
00:53:58,902 --> 00:54:03,490
So, I got an Ancestry kit
just to figure out where I came from.
895
00:54:03,573 --> 00:54:05,075
[clattering]
896
00:54:05,867 --> 00:54:08,787
[man] When Ancestry results
came through, my coworker said,
897
00:54:08,870 --> 00:54:13,208
"Well, you'll have
11, 15 hits on Ancestry."
898
00:54:13,291 --> 00:54:14,334
[smacking lips]
899
00:54:14,417 --> 00:54:18,129
Well, when I opened up mine,
I had over 3,000 hits.
900
00:54:18,213 --> 00:54:20,090
[suspenseful music playing]
901
00:54:22,050 --> 00:54:24,970
[Jason] And then immediately after that,
902
00:54:25,553 --> 00:54:26,554
Jacoba called me.
903
00:54:27,222 --> 00:54:28,390
"I'm your sister."
904
00:54:29,724 --> 00:54:31,309
And she told me the truth.
905
00:54:32,978 --> 00:54:37,440
I don't even know how to tell you
the emotions that came over my head.
906
00:54:39,276 --> 00:54:42,529
Took me to an incredibly dark place.
907
00:54:44,489 --> 00:54:45,532
Why?
908
00:54:46,199 --> 00:54:48,201
Why feel the need to do this?
909
00:54:48,285 --> 00:54:50,704
Is it to... to further your career?
910
00:54:53,081 --> 00:54:55,458
Is it to be the best of the best?
911
00:54:55,542 --> 00:54:57,460
Is this to create life?
912
00:54:57,544 --> 00:55:00,505
Is this some sort of sexual thing?
913
00:55:01,006 --> 00:55:02,632
Like, I don't know.
914
00:55:03,300 --> 00:55:06,303
I feel like he's hiding
something more sinister.
915
00:55:10,640 --> 00:55:11,975
[doorbell ringing]
916
00:55:12,559 --> 00:55:14,519
[footsteps approaching]
917
00:55:14,602 --> 00:55:17,689
[Jacoba] Jason, we talked on the phone
a lot before we got to meet.
918
00:55:17,772 --> 00:55:19,024
Hey, how are you?
919
00:55:19,816 --> 00:55:20,859
[Jacoba chuckling]
920
00:55:21,693 --> 00:55:22,694
This is crazy.
921
00:55:22,777 --> 00:55:23,820
[Jacoba] I know!
922
00:55:24,487 --> 00:55:26,448
Jason and I are very similar.
923
00:55:26,531 --> 00:55:28,908
Like, we can
read through people's bullshit.
924
00:55:30,702 --> 00:55:32,203
When someone isn't religious,
925
00:55:32,287 --> 00:55:35,665
and you're gonna use
religious verses to justify your actions,
926
00:55:36,249 --> 00:55:37,625
that just makes it even more...
927
00:55:37,709 --> 00:55:39,309
Worse. I would have just laughed at him.
928
00:55:39,336 --> 00:55:42,339
Well, and it makes it even more
of a reasoning of people saying,
929
00:55:42,422 --> 00:55:45,175
"That right there is why
I would never be religious
930
00:55:45,258 --> 00:55:47,093
because of fuck nuts like you."
931
00:55:47,177 --> 00:55:48,928
And it took all I had in me
932
00:55:50,305 --> 00:55:52,974
to talk to him on the phone
that day without going off.
933
00:55:53,058 --> 00:55:55,185
And I thought,
"You've just got to remain calm
934
00:55:55,268 --> 00:55:57,896
because you're recording this,
and try to get as much out."
935
00:55:58,897 --> 00:56:00,023
Let me hear it.
936
00:56:02,650 --> 00:56:05,862
[Don] You know, I know
that nothing happens without God,
937
00:56:06,446 --> 00:56:08,406
um, allowing it.
938
00:56:08,907 --> 00:56:10,147
- [Jacoba sighing]
- [Don] Um...
939
00:56:10,617 --> 00:56:12,577
[Jacoba] See,
I think that's where our problem is.
940
00:56:12,619 --> 00:56:15,179
I don't think that God
should have allowed it in the first place,
941
00:56:15,205 --> 00:56:19,084
and I really think that we ask ourselves
every day, "Why are we here?"
942
00:56:20,043 --> 00:56:22,754
I think that's, like,
a lot of our problems. [scoffing]
943
00:56:23,922 --> 00:56:24,756
Yeah.
944
00:56:24,839 --> 00:56:29,928
[Don] Well, you know,
I mentioned one of my favorite, um...
945
00:56:31,262 --> 00:56:35,934
One of my favorite scriptures
was Jeremiah 1:5.
946
00:56:37,310 --> 00:56:38,853
If you'll remember, it says,
947
00:56:38,937 --> 00:56:42,524
"Before I formed you
in your mother's womb, I knew you."
948
00:56:42,607 --> 00:56:44,609
[Jacoba] Mm-hmm. Yeah.
949
00:56:44,692 --> 00:56:45,692
[Don] Um,
950
00:56:46,444 --> 00:56:50,615
and... and that tells me,
and it should tell everybody
951
00:56:50,698 --> 00:56:54,911
that no one is born as a mistake.
952
00:56:55,453 --> 00:56:58,998
Before I knew you, in your mother...
What it... What was it? It's...
953
00:56:59,082 --> 00:57:02,335
"Before I formed you in
your mother's womb, I knew you."
954
00:57:02,919 --> 00:57:04,629
Jeremiah 1:5.
955
00:57:04,712 --> 00:57:06,673
Which really just kinda...
956
00:57:08,716 --> 00:57:12,345
nails it all home
that he knew what he was doing.
957
00:57:13,596 --> 00:57:15,890
He knew exactly what he was doing with us.
958
00:57:21,479 --> 00:57:23,982
I've just become obsessed with the story
959
00:57:24,065 --> 00:57:26,901
and trying to piece everything together.
960
00:57:27,402 --> 00:57:29,988
When I was sent an email
961
00:57:30,071 --> 00:57:32,740
from someone
at the Attorney General's office,
962
00:57:32,824 --> 00:57:36,161
I would go through,
and the person that sent me the email,
963
00:57:36,244 --> 00:57:39,122
and every person
that was copied in on that email,
964
00:57:39,205 --> 00:57:41,291
I would search them on Facebook.
965
00:57:42,083 --> 00:57:44,377
And one of the people with the state
966
00:57:44,461 --> 00:57:47,422
has a "Quiverfull" email address.
967
00:57:48,840 --> 00:57:49,841
That's when it was...
968
00:57:50,341 --> 00:57:53,136
"What is Quiverfull?
Like, what the hell is it?"
969
00:57:53,219 --> 00:57:55,138
[keyboard clacking]
970
00:57:56,347 --> 00:57:58,099
God says, "Children are a blessing."
971
00:57:58,183 --> 00:58:00,477
"We should want to have
our quiver full of them..."
972
00:58:01,060 --> 00:58:03,855
[Jacoba] Quiverfull.
It's essentially a cult
973
00:58:03,938 --> 00:58:06,983
aimed to having
as many children as possible.
974
00:58:07,525 --> 00:58:10,778
If a man with his wife
has a lot of children,
975
00:58:10,862 --> 00:58:12,906
he will send them out as arrows.
976
00:58:12,989 --> 00:58:16,034
He's like a warrior for God,
and he sends his children out
977
00:58:16,117 --> 00:58:19,662
as arrows into the world,
who will be ambassadors for God.
978
00:58:19,746 --> 00:58:21,498
[unnerving music playing]
979
00:58:23,166 --> 00:58:26,252
[woman] The children are raised
to actively participate in government,
980
00:58:26,336 --> 00:58:28,213
to actively run for office,
981
00:58:28,296 --> 00:58:31,925
to seek positions of political prominence,
982
00:58:32,008 --> 00:58:36,012
and eventually that the civil law
will actually be the Bible.
983
00:58:36,679 --> 00:58:39,766
[Jacoba] Lo and behold, Jeremiah 1:5,
984
00:58:39,849 --> 00:58:41,976
the verse that he kept using
985
00:58:42,060 --> 00:58:44,479
is one of the Bible verses
986
00:58:45,313 --> 00:58:47,190
that Quiverfull uses.
987
00:58:47,273 --> 00:58:48,900
[keyboard clacking]
988
00:58:49,484 --> 00:58:53,112
[Jacoba] Basically, for them,
women are just... You... you breed.
989
00:58:54,656 --> 00:58:57,784
Was Cline in this Quiverfull movement?
990
00:58:57,867 --> 00:58:59,619
[suspenseful music playing]
991
00:59:00,328 --> 00:59:06,251
[Jacoba] Were all of us part
of some sick, twisted, secret society?
992
00:59:08,753 --> 00:59:11,589
There's so many theories
that I've thought of in my head.
993
00:59:14,801 --> 00:59:17,554
[Heather] I think the philosophies
994
00:59:17,637 --> 00:59:21,599
or the beliefs of the Quiverfull movement
seem so outrageous to me
995
00:59:21,683 --> 00:59:24,602
that it's hard for me
to actually believe that it's real.
996
00:59:24,686 --> 00:59:27,564
I agree with that
and that we could even be a part of it.
997
00:59:27,647 --> 00:59:28,481
[Heather] Mm-hmm.
998
00:59:28,565 --> 00:59:29,565
[whispering] Yeah.
999
00:59:30,608 --> 00:59:34,237
[Julie] With the Quiverfull theory,
back when we were all conceived,
1000
00:59:34,320 --> 00:59:37,991
that theory was
to produce more of the white race
1001
00:59:38,575 --> 00:59:42,745
because they were in fear
that other races were infiltrating that
1002
00:59:42,829 --> 00:59:45,331
and the white race
would eventually disappear.
1003
00:59:45,832 --> 00:59:46,832
I mean,
1004
00:59:47,667 --> 00:59:50,128
when you look at that wall of babies,
1005
00:59:50,211 --> 00:59:53,214
it is all Caucasian babies.
1006
00:59:53,298 --> 00:59:55,174
[suspenseful music playing]
1007
00:59:56,968 --> 01:00:00,888
[Jacoba] It's crazy because every time
we get a DNA match,
1008
01:00:01,472 --> 01:00:04,142
it's like, "Yep.
Looks like one of the Cline boys,"
1009
01:00:05,184 --> 01:00:06,769
or "Looks like a Cline girl."
1010
01:00:08,563 --> 01:00:10,523
Most of us have blond hair
1011
01:00:11,024 --> 01:00:12,859
and blue eyes.
1012
01:00:15,028 --> 01:00:18,615
I hate to say this
'cause it sounds so... But it's almost like
1013
01:00:19,449 --> 01:00:23,911
we're like this perfect Aryan clan,
1014
01:00:23,995 --> 01:00:27,832
and... it's disgusting.
1015
01:00:28,499 --> 01:00:31,461
It's sad that we have
to have conspiracy theories
1016
01:00:31,544 --> 01:00:33,463
to understand why he did this.
1017
01:00:33,546 --> 01:00:35,506
If he would just tell us,
1018
01:00:35,590 --> 01:00:37,383
then we wouldn't have to go through
1019
01:00:37,467 --> 01:00:39,594
of trying to find
all these different reasons...
1020
01:00:39,677 --> 01:00:41,471
Life would be easier for him if he did.
1021
01:00:41,554 --> 01:00:43,139
It would help all of us heal too.
1022
01:00:43,222 --> 01:00:45,433
But you're not gonna
get that from somebody
1023
01:00:45,516 --> 01:00:49,354
that does not have
compassion or any empathy.
1024
01:00:49,437 --> 01:00:52,857
It's disgusting to sit there
and lay in bed at night,
1025
01:00:52,940 --> 01:00:56,486
and wonder if the person that created you
1026
01:00:57,403 --> 01:00:59,197
is some racist bigot,
1027
01:01:00,782 --> 01:01:03,368
and he used my mom as a pawn.
1028
01:01:03,451 --> 01:01:04,452
[Jacoba sniffling]
1029
01:01:04,535 --> 01:01:07,538
[Jacoba] And he did it
over and over and over again.
1030
01:01:08,373 --> 01:01:10,375
Ugh. [sniffling]
1031
01:01:12,835 --> 01:01:13,920
Ugh!
1032
01:01:15,213 --> 01:01:16,297
[Jacoba sighing]
1033
01:01:17,215 --> 01:01:18,549
I didn't ask to be born.
1034
01:01:18,633 --> 01:01:21,177
I didn't ask to be born
into this situation.
1035
01:01:23,096 --> 01:01:24,472
But this is my life.
1036
01:01:25,014 --> 01:01:26,766
[Debbie] But it's not your fault.
1037
01:01:26,849 --> 01:01:31,104
No, it's not, but then you have this man
who shares half of my DNA.
1038
01:01:32,146 --> 01:01:33,356
Our DNA.
1039
01:01:33,856 --> 01:01:34,856
[Jacoba sniffling]
1040
01:01:36,442 --> 01:01:38,695
[Jacoba] There's just
so many theories, and I...
1041
01:01:39,487 --> 01:01:42,323
I don't think we'll ever know
why he was doing it,
1042
01:01:43,449 --> 01:01:44,449
but
1043
01:01:45,743 --> 01:01:49,288
I want him to have to pay for it.
I want an investigation.
1044
01:01:51,249 --> 01:01:52,458
I want him punished.
1045
01:01:52,959 --> 01:01:53,959
[scoffing]
1046
01:01:54,752 --> 01:01:56,754
[keyboard clacking]
1047
01:02:00,091 --> 01:02:03,219
[Jacoba sighing] The Attorney General's
office didn't give a shit.
1048
01:02:04,387 --> 01:02:07,181
We were told that
they couldn't give us any information
1049
01:02:07,265 --> 01:02:08,891
and we weren't allowed to know.
1050
01:02:10,017 --> 01:02:13,187
And we just kind of got disregarded.
1051
01:02:13,688 --> 01:02:16,816
The one person that we had
was Angela Ganote,
1052
01:02:16,899 --> 01:02:20,153
calling and asking them,
"What are you going to do?"
1053
01:02:20,236 --> 01:02:22,113
[dramatic music playing]
1054
01:02:23,197 --> 01:02:26,576
[Angela] I had started back in 2015,
1055
01:02:27,326 --> 01:02:30,455
asking the Attorney General
for an interview,
1056
01:02:31,622 --> 01:02:36,043
asking anything that I could know about
this, and they would tell me nothing.
1057
01:02:37,378 --> 01:02:40,339
And then I also reached out
to the Marion County prosecutor
1058
01:02:40,423 --> 01:02:42,341
and said, "Is anyone listening?"
1059
01:02:43,092 --> 01:02:44,385
Finally, the spokesperson
1060
01:02:44,469 --> 01:02:46,888
from the Marion County
prosecutor's office said,
1061
01:02:46,971 --> 01:02:49,474
"Angela, I'm sorry.
I don't... Somehow I missed it."
1062
01:02:49,974 --> 01:02:54,729
I laid out a long paragraph
of the whole story and what had happened.
1063
01:02:54,812 --> 01:02:57,732
I had even sent our story
that had aired and said,
1064
01:02:57,815 --> 01:02:59,484
"Did you watch our story?
1065
01:02:59,567 --> 01:03:02,236
I've been asking these questions
for more than a year,
1066
01:03:02,320 --> 01:03:03,404
and I'm getting nowhere."
1067
01:03:03,988 --> 01:03:07,658
"And I feel like it's time that
the prosecutor, or the Attorney General,
1068
01:03:07,742 --> 01:03:10,995
or somebody sits down
and answers the questions that I have."
1069
01:03:12,288 --> 01:03:14,749
When we got the media inquiry,
1070
01:03:14,832 --> 01:03:19,921
there hadn't been
any true investigation done anywhere yet.
1071
01:03:20,004 --> 01:03:21,506
But at the end of the day,
1072
01:03:21,589 --> 01:03:24,425
there's just no crime that touches
1073
01:03:24,509 --> 01:03:26,093
this particular act.
1074
01:03:27,094 --> 01:03:28,094
That's our problem.
1075
01:03:29,972 --> 01:03:31,182
[chuckling lightly]
1076
01:03:31,933 --> 01:03:34,060
So I remember we were sitting there,
1077
01:03:34,811 --> 01:03:38,314
and, um, you know, we're asking him,
1078
01:03:38,397 --> 01:03:40,107
"How is this not rape?"
1079
01:03:40,191 --> 01:03:42,360
I don't deny
that it was a sexual violation.
1080
01:03:42,443 --> 01:03:45,238
But legally, it isn't a sexual violation.
1081
01:03:45,822 --> 01:03:48,825
"I feel like my mother was raped"
1082
01:03:48,908 --> 01:03:52,537
is a valid human emotional statement.
1083
01:03:53,579 --> 01:03:57,124
But..."Dr. Cline committed rape"
1084
01:03:57,208 --> 01:04:01,045
is a legal assertion that was not true,
1085
01:04:01,128 --> 01:04:03,589
and I wasn't gonna put it on paper
1086
01:04:03,673 --> 01:04:04,966
with my signature.
1087
01:04:05,049 --> 01:04:07,176
And I said, "What about battery?"
1088
01:04:07,260 --> 01:04:10,179
And... [scoffing]...he got rude with me.
1089
01:04:10,263 --> 01:04:14,183
He said, "I don't know how many times
I'm gonna have to tell you this."
1090
01:04:15,101 --> 01:04:18,187
"I can't charge him with battery.
It wasn't battery."
1091
01:04:18,271 --> 01:04:20,398
I, uh, was so pissed.
1092
01:04:20,481 --> 01:04:22,400
I looked at Tim Delaney, and I said,
1093
01:04:22,483 --> 01:04:25,069
"So if I spit in your face right now,
1094
01:04:25,152 --> 01:04:26,320
it's not battery?"
1095
01:04:26,946 --> 01:04:30,283
And he said, "It is,
because you'd be spitting on me."
1096
01:04:32,743 --> 01:04:34,579
And I'm like, "What the fuck?"
1097
01:04:34,662 --> 01:04:37,790
"So a doctor can go jack off
1098
01:04:37,874 --> 01:04:41,377
and put their sperm in a woman
1099
01:04:41,460 --> 01:04:44,672
who's their patient that did not consent
1100
01:04:44,755 --> 01:04:46,549
to have their doctor do that,
1101
01:04:47,842 --> 01:04:50,469
but yet, you're gonna tell me
that if I spit in your face,
1102
01:04:50,553 --> 01:04:52,847
I'd be arrested and charged with battery?"
1103
01:04:52,930 --> 01:04:56,976
Jacoba and a lot of the individuals
touched by this were very emotional,
1104
01:04:57,059 --> 01:05:02,315
and had, um, a feeling
that what I was there to do,
1105
01:05:02,899 --> 01:05:05,276
wasn't to apply the law
1106
01:05:05,860 --> 01:05:08,863
to determine whether or not
Dr. Cline had committed a crime.
1107
01:05:09,447 --> 01:05:12,283
They thought I was there
to deliver catharsis.
1108
01:05:12,783 --> 01:05:13,783
And I wasn't.
1109
01:05:16,454 --> 01:05:18,456
[unnerving music playing]
1110
01:05:22,585 --> 01:05:24,420
There's unequal application of the law.
1111
01:05:24,503 --> 01:05:26,857
It happens every day,
it happens all over the United States,
1112
01:05:26,881 --> 01:05:28,121
and it happens here in Indiana.
1113
01:05:29,300 --> 01:05:30,718
Was there fraud?
1114
01:05:30,801 --> 01:05:32,511
Was there something else?
1115
01:05:34,305 --> 01:05:37,224
I just didn't feel like
it was investigated enough
1116
01:05:37,308 --> 01:05:40,186
to look at
what could he have been charged with.
1117
01:05:40,269 --> 01:05:43,356
There was never
a good explanation in my mind.
1118
01:05:44,649 --> 01:05:46,984
[Liz] I had a copy
of the Indiana sexual assault law,
1119
01:05:47,568 --> 01:05:52,031
and I said, "Surely, there's somewhere
in this law that you can say..."
1120
01:05:52,114 --> 01:05:55,117
He says, "No, it has to have
both components. It has to have force
1121
01:05:55,910 --> 01:05:57,411
and non-consent."
1122
01:05:57,495 --> 01:05:59,080
When you talk about rape,
1123
01:05:59,163 --> 01:06:01,749
there is a provision
in Indiana law that says,
1124
01:06:01,832 --> 01:06:03,626
"Rape can include conduct
1125
01:06:03,709 --> 01:06:07,797
which a victim does not know is sexual,
but the perpetrator knows is sexual."
1126
01:06:07,880 --> 01:06:09,840
And that, I think,
is actually the closest charge,
1127
01:06:10,633 --> 01:06:13,344
because in order for him
to produce this sperm sample,
1128
01:06:13,427 --> 01:06:15,805
he had to masturbate
in very close proximity
1129
01:06:15,888 --> 01:06:18,057
to the office where a patient was waiting,
1130
01:06:18,140 --> 01:06:19,725
unclothed from the waist down,
1131
01:06:19,809 --> 01:06:22,520
with a paper cloth covering her knees,
1132
01:06:22,603 --> 01:06:24,230
and knees spread apart.
1133
01:06:25,731 --> 01:06:27,191
Who's to say when this touch
1134
01:06:27,274 --> 01:06:29,986
stops becoming sexual
and starts becoming clinical?
1135
01:06:30,903 --> 01:06:34,281
I think even if he's not thinking
of the patient in a sexual sense,
1136
01:06:34,365 --> 01:06:37,702
the very fact that he's still
under the effects of physical arousal
1137
01:06:37,785 --> 01:06:39,662
makes this a sexual touching.
1138
01:06:40,162 --> 01:06:43,916
Even if he's thinking of his wife
or a pink fuzzy bunny rabbit,
1139
01:06:44,000 --> 01:06:45,835
it is still a sexual act.
1140
01:06:45,918 --> 01:06:47,461
[suspenseful music playing]
1141
01:06:47,545 --> 01:06:50,381
But I also think
we have to see Tim Delaney
1142
01:06:50,464 --> 01:06:52,550
in the context
in which this case was brought.
1143
01:06:52,633 --> 01:06:55,011
And so when I interviewed Tim Delaney,
1144
01:06:55,094 --> 01:06:57,346
he said that Indiana juries
1145
01:06:57,430 --> 01:07:00,725
were not willing to buy
rape-by-deception theories.
1146
01:07:01,308 --> 01:07:04,937
The jury is going to say,
"This woman consented to insemination."
1147
01:07:05,021 --> 01:07:08,190
"This woman wanted a child."
And the question is always out there,
1148
01:07:08,274 --> 01:07:12,319
"Does this woman's desire for a child
legitimate Donald Cline's deception?"
1149
01:07:12,403 --> 01:07:14,697
And unfortunately, that is a question
1150
01:07:14,780 --> 01:07:19,076
that Tim Delaney had to weigh
would enter into the minds of jurors.
1151
01:07:20,244 --> 01:07:23,664
[Debbie] If he asked me
if it'd be okay for him to be the donor,
1152
01:07:23,748 --> 01:07:26,459
I would have not said yes.
1153
01:07:26,542 --> 01:07:27,710
I would say no.
1154
01:07:28,961 --> 01:07:29,795
[Dianna sighing]
1155
01:07:29,879 --> 01:07:33,799
It was a violation of him into me.
1156
01:07:35,593 --> 01:07:39,096
The issue for me is there was no consent.
1157
01:07:41,057 --> 01:07:42,683
He didn't give me a choice.
1158
01:07:44,018 --> 01:07:45,770
[indistinct chatter]
1159
01:07:45,853 --> 01:07:48,189
[Angela] The Attorney General's office
had at least
1160
01:07:48,272 --> 01:07:50,733
reached out to Dr. Cline at some point
1161
01:07:50,816 --> 01:07:53,402
and asked him if he...
if he had used his sperm,
1162
01:07:53,486 --> 01:07:56,655
or had asked some sort of question
because Dr. Cline told me that.
1163
01:07:56,739 --> 01:07:59,325
He told me that he filled it out,
1164
01:07:59,408 --> 01:08:01,702
and that he denied anything,
that he wasn't the father.
1165
01:08:01,786 --> 01:08:04,246
I don't know what's in that letter
'cause I've never seen it,
1166
01:08:04,330 --> 01:08:05,873
but I know what our conversation was.
1167
01:08:05,956 --> 01:08:09,960
Dr. Cline told me that he talked
with the Attorney General's office
1168
01:08:10,044 --> 01:08:11,504
through paperwork,
1169
01:08:12,088 --> 01:08:15,341
and that... he was not the father.
1170
01:08:17,259 --> 01:08:19,887
That was really what ended up
getting him in trouble,
1171
01:08:19,970 --> 01:08:22,681
because he lied to me, and I knew it,
1172
01:08:22,765 --> 01:08:25,643
and he lied on the paperwork
to the Attorney General's office.
1173
01:08:25,726 --> 01:08:28,270
So at one point,
I reached out to the Attorney General,
1174
01:08:28,354 --> 01:08:30,231
and say, "You know he's lying to you."
1175
01:08:30,314 --> 01:08:34,777
He lied and said
that he never used his sperm
1176
01:08:34,860 --> 01:08:36,904
to inseminate his patients.
1177
01:08:38,239 --> 01:08:41,283
[Tim] Only after we determined
that the Attorney General's office
1178
01:08:41,367 --> 01:08:42,827
had sent those letters
1179
01:08:42,910 --> 01:08:45,996
were we able to come up
with a theory for how to proceed.
1180
01:08:46,622 --> 01:08:48,666
We wanted to nail him with something,
1181
01:08:48,749 --> 01:08:50,918
and the fact that
we finally got something,
1182
01:08:51,001 --> 01:08:52,503
it was like a "hurrah" moment.
1183
01:08:53,003 --> 01:08:54,505
And not only that,
1184
01:08:54,588 --> 01:08:57,216
he also added that he was going to sue me
1185
01:08:57,299 --> 01:08:58,968
for libel and slander.
1186
01:08:59,051 --> 01:09:00,845
[suspenseful music playing]
1187
01:09:00,928 --> 01:09:02,930
[Tim] Denying is obstruction of justice,
1188
01:09:03,013 --> 01:09:06,767
but denying and threatening,
and, to paraphrase, saying,
1189
01:09:06,851 --> 01:09:09,270
"Do you know who I am?"
was more than enough.
1190
01:09:09,812 --> 01:09:12,666
It was like, "Eureka!" The, you know...
The bathwater started spilling out.
1191
01:09:12,690 --> 01:09:14,859
I said, "Oh my God, we've got an angle."
1192
01:09:21,740 --> 01:09:22,825
[dog barking]
1193
01:09:24,160 --> 01:09:25,327
[police siren chirping]
1194
01:09:30,082 --> 01:09:31,167
[dog barking]
1195
01:09:34,295 --> 01:09:37,256
[Tim] After we began the investigation,
1196
01:09:37,882 --> 01:09:41,177
obviously the first step
was to get DNA from Dr. Cline.
1197
01:09:45,347 --> 01:09:47,391
[indistinct chatter over police radio]
1198
01:09:47,474 --> 01:09:48,726
[Tim] He was sick.
1199
01:09:49,310 --> 01:09:50,895
He had pneumonia, I believe.
1200
01:09:50,978 --> 01:09:52,855
So he said, "Don't come too close."
1201
01:09:54,023 --> 01:09:56,650
And we said,
"We have a search warrant for your DNA."
1202
01:09:57,735 --> 01:10:00,279
He asked a little bit
about "What is this all about?"
1203
01:10:00,362 --> 01:10:01,947
But he knew what it was all about.
1204
01:10:02,615 --> 01:10:04,617
[inaudible dialogue]
1205
01:10:05,659 --> 01:10:08,162
[Tim] Detective Sergeant Carmen Walker
1206
01:10:08,245 --> 01:10:10,206
of the Marion County
Sheriff's Office said,
1207
01:10:10,289 --> 01:10:11,957
"We need you to open your mouth."
1208
01:10:12,041 --> 01:10:13,417
[inaudible]
1209
01:10:14,084 --> 01:10:15,586
[Tim] And he complied.
1210
01:10:23,427 --> 01:10:25,429
He did not look like he was enjoying it.
1211
01:10:31,977 --> 01:10:33,854
[crows cawing]
1212
01:10:50,162 --> 01:10:55,668
It came back 99.9997%
1213
01:10:55,751 --> 01:10:58,420
that I am his biological daughter.
1214
01:10:58,921 --> 01:11:01,340
[Carmen] And how many times
did you use your own sample?
1215
01:11:01,882 --> 01:11:03,592
[Don] Sparingly, but
1216
01:11:05,052 --> 01:11:09,139
keep in mind,
we're talking 30 to 35 years ago,
1217
01:11:09,223 --> 01:11:12,268
and I... I can't remember.
1218
01:11:12,351 --> 01:11:15,062
All the records have been shredded.
1219
01:11:18,190 --> 01:11:21,277
[anchor] The fertility doctor
at the center of a controversial case
1220
01:11:21,360 --> 01:11:23,654
is headed back to court
to answer criminal charges.
1221
01:11:23,737 --> 01:11:26,657
[anchor 2] Dr. Donald Cline is charged
with two felony counts
1222
01:11:26,740 --> 01:11:30,703
of obstruction of justice
for statements he made to investigators.
1223
01:11:30,786 --> 01:11:32,830
[anchor 3] The retired
Indianapolis fertility doctor
1224
01:11:32,913 --> 01:11:36,083
now plans to plead guilty
to obstruction of justice.
1225
01:11:36,166 --> 01:11:39,503
Prosecutors say he intentionally
misled investigators about a case
1226
01:11:39,586 --> 01:11:42,339
that's turned dozens
of people's lives upside down.
1227
01:11:42,423 --> 01:11:44,174
And it was literally 20 months ago
1228
01:11:44,258 --> 01:11:47,219
that I got a Facebook question to me,
"Angela, can you help me?"
1229
01:11:47,303 --> 01:11:50,973
And thank you for believing in them,
because no one else did but you.
1230
01:11:51,056 --> 01:11:52,141
Yeah, thank you.
1231
01:11:52,224 --> 01:11:53,600
He didn't want to go to trial
1232
01:11:53,684 --> 01:11:55,519
because more information would come out,
1233
01:11:55,602 --> 01:11:58,814
and then also,
he'd probably get more of a punishment.
1234
01:11:58,897 --> 01:12:00,566
So he changed his plea to guilty.
1235
01:12:01,358 --> 01:12:03,360
[tense music playing]
1236
01:12:08,615 --> 01:12:11,952
[Jacoba] I felt good
that day at the court hearing.
1237
01:12:13,287 --> 01:12:16,790
Even though I knew
that all he was being charged with
1238
01:12:16,874 --> 01:12:19,501
was two counts of obstruction of justice,
1239
01:12:19,585 --> 01:12:23,005
I thought, "Fucking finally. Something."
1240
01:12:27,634 --> 01:12:30,804
[Matt] I didn't wanna make
eye contact with him. I...
1241
01:12:32,973 --> 01:12:34,433
I was afraid of him.
1242
01:12:38,479 --> 01:12:42,274
[Julie] Uh, he actually walked right
past me and brushed up against me, and...
1243
01:12:43,567 --> 01:12:46,153
it almost brought me to my knees.
1244
01:12:47,029 --> 01:12:47,863
[crying]
1245
01:12:47,946 --> 01:12:51,408
That was my first time seeing that man
1246
01:12:52,534 --> 01:12:56,497
and being that close to him,
and there was no regard for us.
1247
01:12:58,540 --> 01:13:01,126
[Don] Your honor, I'm asking for mercy
1248
01:13:01,210 --> 01:13:04,213
and compassion for myself.
1249
01:13:07,424 --> 01:13:09,593
I've tried to live out my life
1250
01:13:09,676 --> 01:13:12,346
showing honesty and care to others,
1251
01:13:12,429 --> 01:13:14,640
and I will continue to do so.
1252
01:13:15,140 --> 01:13:16,683
[Heather] He looked very old
1253
01:13:17,226 --> 01:13:20,312
and weak, and part of me thought,
1254
01:13:20,396 --> 01:13:24,358
"Is this an act that you're putting on
to get the judge to go easier on you?"
1255
01:13:24,441 --> 01:13:26,068
[suspenseful music playing]
1256
01:13:26,151 --> 01:13:28,153
[indistinct talking]
1257
01:13:29,196 --> 01:13:31,490
I was allowed to give
a victim-impact statement
1258
01:13:31,573 --> 01:13:35,411
because I was one of the originals
that filed a complaint with the state.
1259
01:13:36,829 --> 01:13:40,916
My hope was that the judge
would be appalled by this,
1260
01:13:41,500 --> 01:13:45,254
and that he would at least get,
like, some jail time.
1261
01:13:45,838 --> 01:13:47,881
These are my words to Cline.
1262
01:13:47,965 --> 01:13:51,635
Every time I or my half-siblings
look up our name,
1263
01:13:51,718 --> 01:13:53,679
we all have the same issue tied to you.
1264
01:13:53,762 --> 01:13:55,472
It has caused anguish in everyone,
1265
01:13:55,556 --> 01:13:58,058
and some of us have
wanted to die from this pain.
1266
01:13:59,643 --> 01:14:03,564
For 30 years, my half-sister, Julie,
believed her dad was her biological dad...
1267
01:14:03,647 --> 01:14:05,232
Objection, Your Honor.
1268
01:14:06,150 --> 01:14:07,151
Relevancy.
1269
01:14:08,986 --> 01:14:12,072
We had agreed
to the wording of the statement.
1270
01:14:12,698 --> 01:14:13,699
Literally redlined it.
1271
01:14:14,283 --> 01:14:17,453
And I had things crossed out
or highlighted that you can't say.
1272
01:14:17,536 --> 01:14:19,371
Because of your denials,
1273
01:14:19,455 --> 01:14:21,832
I feel you have
no consideration for the mothers
1274
01:14:21,915 --> 01:14:24,793
who came to you,
us as your biological children,
1275
01:14:24,877 --> 01:14:27,671
or your wife
and the four children you had with her.
1276
01:14:27,754 --> 01:14:31,133
It was always about you.
You lied. You still lie.
1277
01:14:31,216 --> 01:14:34,303
You even have your family believing you,
and that sickens me.
1278
01:14:34,386 --> 01:14:36,513
- Our mothers trusted you...
- [lawyer] Objection!
1279
01:14:36,597 --> 01:14:38,056
She... she went for it.
1280
01:14:38,140 --> 01:14:41,060
I don't know if I would've had the courage
to do that in front of a judge.
1281
01:14:41,101 --> 01:14:42,311
But, you know...
1282
01:14:42,394 --> 01:14:45,731
[Jacoba] I'm asking you to look at the
depth of the reasons he is charged with...
1283
01:14:45,814 --> 01:14:46,857
[lawyer] Objection!
1284
01:14:46,940 --> 01:14:48,650
What we're really getting at
1285
01:14:48,734 --> 01:14:51,195
is the inability of victims
to tell their stories.
1286
01:14:51,278 --> 01:14:53,280
Those who testify can only testify
1287
01:14:53,363 --> 01:14:55,991
to... to what is relevant
to a criminal proceeding.
1288
01:14:56,074 --> 01:14:58,827
But... And what is relevant
to Cline's proceeding
1289
01:14:58,911 --> 01:15:01,330
was not what happened in the '70s or '80s,
1290
01:15:01,413 --> 01:15:03,165
not the births, not the fertility fraud.
1291
01:15:03,248 --> 01:15:04,583
It was the lies to the state.
1292
01:15:05,167 --> 01:15:08,170
In Cline's proceeding,
the state was the victim. They weren't.
1293
01:15:08,754 --> 01:15:12,132
[judge] I do want to reiterate, probably
for the fifth or sixth time at this point,
1294
01:15:12,216 --> 01:15:15,219
that the court, by law, can only consider
1295
01:15:16,094 --> 01:15:18,263
the charges
that Dr. Cline's plead guilty to,
1296
01:15:18,347 --> 01:15:20,599
the obstruction of... of justice charges.
1297
01:15:20,682 --> 01:15:24,728
Obviously, it would be inappropriate
for me to consider outside of that realm.
1298
01:15:25,437 --> 01:15:28,023
What we asked for the judge to do
1299
01:15:28,106 --> 01:15:29,733
was twofold.
1300
01:15:29,816 --> 01:15:35,030
One, to make sure
that these crimes remained as felonies
1301
01:15:35,113 --> 01:15:37,533
on his record, and two,
1302
01:15:37,616 --> 01:15:40,160
deliver executed time,
an executed sentence,
1303
01:15:40,244 --> 01:15:42,454
meaning time served in jail.
1304
01:15:43,205 --> 01:15:46,333
[lawyer] We received a number
of support letters for Dr. Cline.
1305
01:15:46,416 --> 01:15:48,296
These are letters
from members of the community,
1306
01:15:48,377 --> 01:15:52,297
former patients, and members
of Dr. Cline's family and church.
1307
01:15:52,381 --> 01:15:55,551
These individuals have known
Dr. Cline for many years.
1308
01:15:55,634 --> 01:15:58,637
And they evidence
a strong connection to his family,
1309
01:15:58,720 --> 01:16:00,973
the community, and that rehabilitation
1310
01:16:01,056 --> 01:16:04,601
is not only possible
but actually has already taken place here.
1311
01:16:05,769 --> 01:16:08,272
[Matt] A lot of folks submitted letters
1312
01:16:08,772 --> 01:16:10,816
on his behalf to the judge.
1313
01:16:10,899 --> 01:16:14,027
I believe there was one
that came from a prosecutor
1314
01:16:14,111 --> 01:16:16,989
from Boone County,
which is where he lives,
1315
01:16:17,072 --> 01:16:19,575
saying that "This guy is a good man,"
1316
01:16:19,658 --> 01:16:22,035
you know, "He should get some leniency."
1317
01:16:25,831 --> 01:16:28,511
[producer] Is that an odd thing
for a prosecutor to write to a judge
1318
01:16:28,542 --> 01:16:29,542
if it's a friend?
1319
01:16:32,379 --> 01:16:35,173
I'd do well not to comment
on that particular question.
1320
01:16:37,301 --> 01:16:40,137
That's when I, in my gut,
1321
01:16:40,637 --> 01:16:42,472
felt like the state was corrupt.
1322
01:16:42,556 --> 01:16:43,640
There were people corrupt,
1323
01:16:43,724 --> 01:16:45,726
and they were friends
with him or something.
1324
01:16:46,768 --> 01:16:49,313
[judge] Please remember
that whatever happens during sentencing,
1325
01:16:49,396 --> 01:16:51,940
the people that love you
are gonna continue to love you.
1326
01:16:53,317 --> 01:16:56,570
[Jacoba] The judge seemed
very sympathetic towards him,
1327
01:16:56,653 --> 01:16:58,572
like on the verge of tears.
1328
01:16:58,655 --> 01:17:02,034
[judge] With the limited resources
that we have, overcrowding at the jail,
1329
01:17:02,117 --> 01:17:04,369
and your lack of a criminal history,
1330
01:17:04,453 --> 01:17:07,539
um, an executed sentence is nothing
that the court is gonna order.
1331
01:17:07,623 --> 01:17:10,208
I really wanted him to have jail time.
1332
01:17:10,292 --> 01:17:11,168
I really did.
1333
01:17:11,251 --> 01:17:14,588
I thought that that would bring
a little bit of closure to me.
1334
01:17:15,464 --> 01:17:17,424
[voice breaking] But... no.
1335
01:17:18,091 --> 01:17:22,012
[judge] I know that this is your
first offense, but Dr. Cline, I do believe
1336
01:17:22,095 --> 01:17:26,850
that the facts support going ahead
and sentencing you as a level 6 felon.
1337
01:17:28,060 --> 01:17:30,604
Um, as to fines and costs,
1338
01:17:31,104 --> 01:17:33,732
sir, the court will fine you $500.
1339
01:17:34,983 --> 01:17:38,111
[Julie] And so he got
the two Level 6 felonies
1340
01:17:38,195 --> 01:17:40,781
with complete suspended sentences
1341
01:17:40,864 --> 01:17:42,783
and a $500 fine,
1342
01:17:43,700 --> 01:17:45,827
which is a slap in the fucking face.
1343
01:17:45,911 --> 01:17:47,704
[dramatic music playing]
1344
01:17:54,211 --> 01:17:56,213
[inaudible]
1345
01:17:58,298 --> 01:18:00,384
[reporter] Dr. Cline,
do you have any comment at all?
1346
01:18:00,967 --> 01:18:04,087
[reporter 2] Dr. Cline, what would you
change now if you could change anything?
1347
01:18:07,099 --> 01:18:09,726
[Jacoba] This was a span of two years
1348
01:18:09,810 --> 01:18:12,104
from me filing a complaint,
1349
01:18:12,187 --> 01:18:15,232
to them actually,
finally doing something about it.
1350
01:18:15,315 --> 01:18:16,400
[elevator bell dings]
1351
01:18:16,983 --> 01:18:18,110
[Jacoba] And...
1352
01:18:18,193 --> 01:18:19,193
[scoffing]
1353
01:18:19,569 --> 01:18:22,989
...this judge just let this man
1354
01:18:23,073 --> 01:18:25,367
pretty much off the hook.
1355
01:18:25,450 --> 01:18:27,077
[tense music playing]
1356
01:18:29,830 --> 01:18:32,416
[Jacoba] And I dread
every new match that comes.
1357
01:18:34,084 --> 01:18:35,752
But they just keep coming,
1358
01:18:36,253 --> 01:18:38,714
and you never know the day
that you're gonna wake up,
1359
01:18:38,797 --> 01:18:40,632
and then they're going to be there.
1360
01:18:43,385 --> 01:18:45,095
[numbers clicking]
1361
01:18:45,178 --> 01:18:47,180
[man moaning]
1362
01:18:47,264 --> 01:18:49,266
[suspenseful music playing]
1363
01:18:53,729 --> 01:18:55,981
I just... Uh, I feel like he...
1364
01:18:58,984 --> 01:19:00,819
That this was some sick
1365
01:19:02,154 --> 01:19:04,072
game experiment for him.
1366
01:19:04,156 --> 01:19:05,449
[breath shuddering]
1367
01:19:06,992 --> 01:19:08,076
[Don] As far as I know,
1368
01:19:08,160 --> 01:19:11,872
all of the inseminations
that I did with my sample,
1369
01:19:13,331 --> 01:19:15,625
um, and again it was sparingly,
1370
01:19:16,126 --> 01:19:18,462
um, had a healthy baby.
1371
01:19:19,254 --> 01:19:21,506
It was, you know, important to my parents
1372
01:19:22,299 --> 01:19:24,259
that it was someone that was healthy,
1373
01:19:24,760 --> 01:19:27,512
and for him
to turn around and violate them
1374
01:19:27,596 --> 01:19:31,057
and do this without their consent, and
1375
01:19:32,392 --> 01:19:37,063
there's a lot of us
that have the same health issues.
1376
01:19:38,148 --> 01:19:40,025
Almost every single one of us.
1377
01:19:42,778 --> 01:19:46,239
[Jacoba] I've been to so many doctors,
been to the Cleveland Clinic.
1378
01:19:46,740 --> 01:19:48,617
They don't know what's wrong with me.
1379
01:19:49,326 --> 01:19:50,326
I'm sick.
1380
01:19:51,661 --> 01:19:55,540
And other, um, siblings have, um,
1381
01:19:56,208 --> 01:19:58,418
autoimmune diseases and stuff.
1382
01:19:58,502 --> 01:19:59,795
[breathing deeply]
1383
01:19:59,878 --> 01:20:02,130
I have an autoimmune disease, yeah.
1384
01:20:02,214 --> 01:20:04,132
It's, um, a blood clotting disorder,
1385
01:20:04,216 --> 01:20:07,928
um, which I didn't know
until I had a miscarriage,
1386
01:20:08,011 --> 01:20:11,223
and, uh, we were determining
what would have caused that.
1387
01:20:11,807 --> 01:20:13,058
I mean, I've had...
1388
01:20:14,976 --> 01:20:15,977
[exhaling sharply]
1389
01:20:16,561 --> 01:20:19,356
...colonoscopy, endoscopy, I've had...
1390
01:20:21,107 --> 01:20:23,318
I mean, I've spent weeks in the hospital,
1391
01:20:23,819 --> 01:20:25,987
losing 15 pounds at a time.
1392
01:20:26,947 --> 01:20:31,743
I have a lot of digestive,
um, and colon issues, and
1393
01:20:32,786 --> 01:20:34,788
no one on my mom's side does.
1394
01:20:37,999 --> 01:20:39,543
[Mark] In the early '70s,
1395
01:20:39,626 --> 01:20:42,879
I had heard
that he was having trouble, uh, operating
1396
01:20:42,963 --> 01:20:44,798
because he had rheumatoid arthritis.
1397
01:20:44,881 --> 01:20:47,092
And he had... His hands were swelling up.
1398
01:20:47,592 --> 01:20:50,720
I... I, at that time,
I felt I would hate to see him,
1399
01:20:50,804 --> 01:20:53,723
his career of being a great surgeon end
1400
01:20:53,807 --> 01:20:56,601
because he couldn't get
the right treatment for his arthritis.
1401
01:20:56,685 --> 01:20:58,728
And so, I called our chief of medicine,
1402
01:20:58,812 --> 01:21:00,647
told him about Cline's problems.
1403
01:21:00,730 --> 01:21:03,441
And he said,
"Yeah. Well, let me call Dr. B. up there,"
1404
01:21:03,525 --> 01:21:06,987
and Cline went down and met with him,
and he told him what to take, etcetera.
1405
01:21:07,070 --> 01:21:11,700
So, once he got on the right medications,
he seemed to be fine.
1406
01:21:11,783 --> 01:21:13,535
[Shereen] His symptoms abated.
1407
01:21:14,536 --> 01:21:15,536
[glass sliding]
1408
01:21:16,746 --> 01:21:19,291
[Robert] I know
in talking to a sperm bank,
1409
01:21:20,375 --> 01:21:23,837
30% of the guys didn't even make it
1410
01:21:23,920 --> 01:21:26,006
past the questionnaire
1411
01:21:26,590 --> 01:21:28,341
because of what was in their family.
1412
01:21:28,425 --> 01:21:31,386
History of cancer, history of whatever,
1413
01:21:31,887 --> 01:21:33,847
even color blindness, for goodness sakes.
1414
01:21:33,930 --> 01:21:36,391
Now, looking back at it, and being like,
1415
01:21:36,474 --> 01:21:39,519
"Okay. He's got an autoimmune disease,
1416
01:21:39,603 --> 01:21:44,190
um, and his sperm
wouldn't have even been allowed
1417
01:21:44,274 --> 01:21:46,192
to be a donor because of that."
1418
01:21:46,818 --> 01:21:49,487
Like, "Dude, you knew this."
1419
01:21:49,571 --> 01:21:52,240
"You knew... you knew you had issues."
1420
01:21:52,324 --> 01:21:54,576
"Like, how... how dare you?"
1421
01:21:55,785 --> 01:21:57,287
[smacking lips] Yeah.
1422
01:21:57,370 --> 01:21:58,370
[scoffing]
1423
01:22:00,165 --> 01:22:02,083
Now, there's the Don Cline we knew,
1424
01:22:03,043 --> 01:22:06,338
that I knew, that I th... knew well.
1425
01:22:08,506 --> 01:22:11,176
And there's the Don Cline
I would have never imagined.
1426
01:22:11,259 --> 01:22:12,719
[suspenseful music playing]
1427
01:22:12,802 --> 01:22:13,970
[sighing heavily]
1428
01:22:14,054 --> 01:22:15,054
Yeah.
1429
01:22:15,889 --> 01:22:17,140
Yeah. It broke my heart.
1430
01:22:19,017 --> 01:22:20,017
[exhales sharply]
1431
01:22:24,147 --> 01:22:25,147
Evil.
1432
01:22:25,982 --> 01:22:29,110
And I... If Don was right here,
I'd say that right to his face.
1433
01:22:34,157 --> 01:22:35,533
[Jacoba] Still to this day,
1434
01:22:35,617 --> 01:22:39,621
there are people
in his community that back him.
1435
01:22:40,413 --> 01:22:44,459
And people that sit there and say,
"But he is such a wonderful man."
1436
01:22:44,960 --> 01:22:47,212
And I just want to look at those people
1437
01:22:47,295 --> 01:22:50,006
and say, "Well, then maybe
he should have put his sperm
1438
01:22:50,090 --> 01:22:52,425
in your wife without her consent."
1439
01:22:52,509 --> 01:22:55,178
"And then how would you like that?"
1440
01:22:57,931 --> 01:22:59,432
[numbers clicking]
1441
01:22:59,516 --> 01:23:01,518
[man moaning]
1442
01:23:01,601 --> 01:23:03,603
[melancholy music playing]
1443
01:23:05,897 --> 01:23:09,859
I took a 23andMe DNA test because,
1444
01:23:10,402 --> 01:23:12,362
about four or five years ago now,
1445
01:23:12,445 --> 01:23:16,241
my children and I were both diagnosed
with a genetic disorder.
1446
01:23:17,409 --> 01:23:19,202
I got the results back.
1447
01:23:19,285 --> 01:23:24,124
And when I got to the genetic DNA family,
1448
01:23:24,791 --> 01:23:27,419
there were half-siblings listed.
1449
01:23:27,502 --> 01:23:30,588
And I honestly just thought,
"Oh, this is a mistake."
1450
01:23:31,464 --> 01:23:33,299
Because by that time,
1451
01:23:33,383 --> 01:23:40,015
I didn't know that my parents
had any type of fertility treatment
1452
01:23:40,098 --> 01:23:42,851
other than receiving
fertility medications.
1453
01:23:43,643 --> 01:23:48,940
So I kind of just put it out of my mind,
and didn't think anything of it.
1454
01:23:49,024 --> 01:23:50,442
[suspenseful music playing]
1455
01:23:51,151 --> 01:23:54,070
And then I had
a couple messages from Jacoba.
1456
01:23:55,739 --> 01:23:57,574
And it basically said,
1457
01:23:57,657 --> 01:24:01,369
"I'm sure
you're confused by your results."
1458
01:24:01,453 --> 01:24:03,955
"Feel free to contact me
with any questions."
1459
01:24:04,831 --> 01:24:09,419
It didn't occur to me
that she was talking about the siblings,
1460
01:24:09,502 --> 01:24:14,257
so I just
kind of disregarded that message.
1461
01:24:15,175 --> 01:24:16,634
[Dr. Phil theme music playing]
1462
01:24:18,970 --> 01:24:23,099
[Alison] On December 9th of 2019,
1463
01:24:23,183 --> 01:24:24,517
a Dr. Phil show aired.
1464
01:24:25,226 --> 01:24:27,062
Well, question for you.
1465
01:24:27,145 --> 01:24:29,064
How would you feel if you found out
1466
01:24:29,147 --> 01:24:31,274
your mother's fertility doctor
1467
01:24:32,150 --> 01:24:34,527
was actually your biological father?
1468
01:24:34,611 --> 01:24:36,321
[crowd murmuring]
1469
01:24:38,573 --> 01:24:40,408
[breathing heavily]
1470
01:24:41,367 --> 01:24:43,328
When the siblings walked out...
1471
01:24:43,411 --> 01:24:44,411
[clearing throat]
1472
01:24:45,413 --> 01:24:47,207
Jacoba was introduced.
1473
01:24:47,290 --> 01:24:52,545
You felt no remorse from him,
other than just the fear of being caught.
1474
01:24:52,629 --> 01:24:55,173
He was not remorseful at all.
[clearing throat]
1475
01:24:55,256 --> 01:24:58,259
- [Dr. Phil] None?
- He just did not want it to be public.
1476
01:24:58,343 --> 01:25:01,012
He told me,
"The world does not need to know."
1477
01:25:01,930 --> 01:25:02,972
[Dr. Phil] Wow.
1478
01:25:06,559 --> 01:25:10,438
I, uh, quickly got my phone
and opened my 23andMe,
1479
01:25:11,106 --> 01:25:15,401
and all of the siblings on that show
were listed as my half-siblings.
1480
01:25:17,070 --> 01:25:20,490
So then I knew, I knew at that moment,
1481
01:25:21,241 --> 01:25:23,827
that there... That we were a part of it.
1482
01:25:23,910 --> 01:25:25,370
[suspenseful music playing]
1483
01:25:25,453 --> 01:25:29,207
I was a patient
of Dr. Cline's for many years.
1484
01:25:30,416 --> 01:25:35,046
I think he took each case very personally.
1485
01:25:35,130 --> 01:25:36,589
At least he did with me.
1486
01:25:38,508 --> 01:25:40,176
He delivered the girls,
1487
01:25:41,344 --> 01:25:44,472
and he came over with his wife
1488
01:25:44,556 --> 01:25:46,933
to see our babies at home.
1489
01:25:51,104 --> 01:25:53,815
[Alison] So this is a picture
of my twin sister and I
1490
01:25:53,898 --> 01:25:57,068
right after delivery, in the incubator.
1491
01:25:57,694 --> 01:25:58,694
[sniffling]
1492
01:25:59,904 --> 01:26:01,030
[Alison] And...
1493
01:26:06,119 --> 01:26:10,331
this is the picture of Cline
holding me as an infant at the house.
1494
01:26:12,959 --> 01:26:15,378
I was probably eight months old there.
1495
01:26:21,885 --> 01:26:25,555
I had such mixed emotions in that
1496
01:26:26,639 --> 01:26:29,684
the thought that he had used
1497
01:26:29,767 --> 01:26:33,563
his own specimen to impregnate me
1498
01:26:34,314 --> 01:26:38,443
made me kind of queasy
and sick to my stomach.
1499
01:26:39,027 --> 01:26:40,778
Whereas, um...
1500
01:26:42,822 --> 01:26:44,157
on the other hand,
1501
01:26:44,240 --> 01:26:47,952
I thought about the fact
that because of his skills
1502
01:26:48,036 --> 01:26:49,662
in operating on me,
1503
01:26:49,746 --> 01:26:54,292
and... and clearing up some of the things
that were causing infertility,
1504
01:26:54,375 --> 01:26:56,085
I was grateful to him.
1505
01:26:56,711 --> 01:26:59,172
So I had this mix of emotions,
1506
01:26:59,255 --> 01:27:02,383
and I have twin daughters
1507
01:27:02,467 --> 01:27:06,137
who are absolutely delightful girls.
1508
01:27:07,388 --> 01:27:08,640
[voice breaking] And I...
1509
01:27:09,390 --> 01:27:11,059
You know, you can't be angry
1510
01:27:11,142 --> 01:27:14,687
when you have...
you have what you always dreamed of.
1511
01:27:15,480 --> 01:27:17,106
[dramatic music playing]
1512
01:27:17,190 --> 01:27:20,652
Well, it was, um, complex for me because...
1513
01:27:23,571 --> 01:27:25,907
I was 47 years old at the time,
1514
01:27:25,990 --> 01:27:27,242
and to find out...
1515
01:27:30,161 --> 01:27:31,704
[breath shuddering]
1516
01:27:31,788 --> 01:27:34,499
...that the man I looked up to and emulated
1517
01:27:34,582 --> 01:27:36,167
from the time I was small...
1518
01:27:38,127 --> 01:27:42,465
was not my biological father was crushing.
1519
01:27:44,884 --> 01:27:46,427
That was the biggest part.
1520
01:27:46,511 --> 01:27:49,555
I felt this need to protect him,
1521
01:27:49,639 --> 01:27:51,724
and I didn't want people to know.
1522
01:27:54,852 --> 01:27:55,687
[sniffling]
1523
01:27:55,770 --> 01:27:59,274
But the other part of my story
1524
01:27:59,357 --> 01:28:03,236
is that Don Cline
was also my fertility doctor.
1525
01:28:04,529 --> 01:28:06,531
[sinister music playing]
1526
01:28:09,242 --> 01:28:12,328
[Alison] He was my main GYN.
1527
01:28:12,412 --> 01:28:16,874
He took care of all my gynecological needs
for the two years that I saw him.
1528
01:28:16,958 --> 01:28:18,918
He did my Pap exams.
1529
01:28:19,002 --> 01:28:20,878
He did breast exams.
1530
01:28:24,549 --> 01:28:28,928
I mean, I don't think
any grown woman wants...
1531
01:28:30,805 --> 01:28:33,391
someone closely related to them,
1532
01:28:33,474 --> 01:28:37,895
a member of the opposite sex,
to touch them in that way, in such...
1533
01:28:37,979 --> 01:28:41,983
It's a very vulnerable position
that the patient is in.
1534
01:28:42,567 --> 01:28:45,236
And to be touching and examining
1535
01:28:46,738 --> 01:28:49,324
private areas of your body. It's just...
1536
01:28:50,533 --> 01:28:52,535
[breath shuddering]
1537
01:28:53,328 --> 01:28:57,498
It's... I can't... I can't even think
about it without getting upset.
1538
01:28:58,499 --> 01:29:01,210
I didn't get to have
that knowledge. He knew.
1539
01:29:01,294 --> 01:29:04,505
I didn't get to know that
or have the chance to say,
1540
01:29:04,589 --> 01:29:06,924
"No. I would... I...
I'd rather I see someone else."
1541
01:29:07,008 --> 01:29:11,637
"I don't... I don't want someone
who is biologically related to me
1542
01:29:11,721 --> 01:29:13,181
to touch me in that way."
1543
01:29:13,264 --> 01:29:15,016
I didn't get to do... know that.
1544
01:29:16,434 --> 01:29:18,436
[dramatic music playing]
1545
01:29:19,896 --> 01:29:23,107
It's almost, you know,
1546
01:29:23,191 --> 01:29:26,194
it's like... it's like a bad dream
that you... that's recurring.
1547
01:29:27,028 --> 01:29:28,363
You wanna wake up.
1548
01:29:28,446 --> 01:29:30,865
But every time you wake up,
it's not a dream.
1549
01:29:33,743 --> 01:29:38,915
[crying] I just can't believe
how it was, you know, done to us.
1550
01:29:38,998 --> 01:29:43,503
I really can't. And for him
to act like nothing happened.
1551
01:29:43,586 --> 01:29:45,755
I think that's the worst part of it.
1552
01:29:45,838 --> 01:29:46,838
[sniffling]
1553
01:29:48,966 --> 01:29:52,303
[Don] I don't want you
to think that I do this...
1554
01:29:52,387 --> 01:29:56,182
I did the insemination with my own sample
1555
01:29:56,265 --> 01:29:57,683
very blasé.
1556
01:29:59,602 --> 01:30:03,022
Was there a sexual connotation to it?
1557
01:30:03,106 --> 01:30:04,190
Absolutely not.
1558
01:30:05,149 --> 01:30:08,236
I don't look at these people
1559
01:30:08,319 --> 01:30:10,696
and consider them to be my
1560
01:30:11,406 --> 01:30:12,532
children.
1561
01:30:14,117 --> 01:30:15,993
[clock ticking]
1562
01:30:16,077 --> 01:30:18,204
[Julie] I want zero relationship with him.
1563
01:30:24,001 --> 01:30:25,420
[crying] He's not my father.
1564
01:30:27,088 --> 01:30:28,088
[sniffling]
1565
01:30:30,633 --> 01:30:32,927
I may share half of his DNA,
1566
01:30:34,137 --> 01:30:36,681
but he's not my father,
and he never will be.
1567
01:30:36,764 --> 01:30:38,766
[emotional music playing]
1568
01:30:43,020 --> 01:30:46,357
I feel sorry for him
because his whole life to his wife,
1569
01:30:46,441 --> 01:30:49,610
to his own children,
to his community, to his church,
1570
01:30:50,153 --> 01:30:53,406
to his colleagues
in the hospital and his office.
1571
01:30:54,615 --> 01:30:55,783
It's all a lie.
1572
01:30:58,327 --> 01:31:01,247
I would like to see him
pay for what he did...
1573
01:31:01,330 --> 01:31:02,330
[sniffling]
1574
01:31:03,958 --> 01:31:05,835
...but I just, I feel like...
1575
01:31:07,670 --> 01:31:09,797
there isn't gonna be any justice.
1576
01:31:11,424 --> 01:31:12,425
I'm okay.
1577
01:31:14,594 --> 01:31:16,888
This is not my issue. It's his.
1578
01:31:22,852 --> 01:31:26,272
[Matt] I think continually putting
his name and face in the media,
1579
01:31:27,440 --> 01:31:31,736
and telling our story
was the absolute way to go.
1580
01:31:33,821 --> 01:31:35,907
I'm not gonna run away from him.
1581
01:31:36,616 --> 01:31:38,534
Not gonna run away from this story.
1582
01:31:40,203 --> 01:31:42,788
If you were not even
experiencing problems with infertility,
1583
01:31:42,872 --> 01:31:46,125
if you saw Dr. Cline and you have a child,
1584
01:31:46,209 --> 01:31:49,629
I think it is important,
very important, that you have a DNA test.
1585
01:31:49,712 --> 01:31:53,382
Your child has a DNA test,
just to be certain that you know
1586
01:31:53,466 --> 01:31:55,843
who the father is of that child.
1587
01:32:02,850 --> 01:32:04,644
[Jacoba] Instead of destroying me...
1588
01:32:07,772 --> 01:32:09,899
you made me realize my self-worth.
1589
01:32:10,900 --> 01:32:12,735
That's absolutely what you did.
1590
01:32:12,818 --> 01:32:15,780
And you made me realize
what my purpose is too.
1591
01:32:15,863 --> 01:32:16,948
And I'm a fighter.
1592
01:32:18,199 --> 01:32:21,744
And I will fight for every sibling
1593
01:32:21,827 --> 01:32:24,789
that I have that I know,
that I don't know,
1594
01:32:24,872 --> 01:32:27,708
and for every woman that you assaulted.
1595
01:32:29,293 --> 01:32:32,213
And I will do this
until the fucking day I die.
1596
01:32:32,296 --> 01:32:33,756
[suspenseful music playing]
1597
01:32:36,676 --> 01:32:38,386
[music fades]
1598
01:32:50,273 --> 01:32:52,275
["Devil, Devil" by Milck playing]
1599
01:32:56,946 --> 01:32:58,698
♪ Devil, Devil ♪
1600
01:33:02,827 --> 01:33:05,705
♪ Clever Devil, Devil ♪
1601
01:33:10,042 --> 01:33:16,257
♪ How quickly they do sell their souls ♪
1602
01:33:16,966 --> 01:33:22,597
♪ For the feast and the promise of gold ♪
1603
01:33:23,806 --> 01:33:28,436
♪ But Devil, that won't be me ♪
1604
01:33:34,233 --> 01:33:35,735
♪ Devil, Devil ♪
1605
01:33:40,114 --> 01:33:43,242
♪ Bones of metal, metal ♪
1606
01:33:47,038 --> 01:33:53,377
♪ You torture saints
With a single glance ♪
1607
01:33:53,878 --> 01:34:00,301
♪ Make them think
They ever stood a chance ♪
1608
01:34:00,384 --> 01:34:03,763
♪ Do not try me, Devil, Devil ♪
1609
01:34:03,846 --> 01:34:07,099
♪ Cannot buy me, Devil, Devil ♪
1610
01:34:07,183 --> 01:34:13,439
♪ You won't make a fool of me, oh no ♪
1611
01:34:13,939 --> 01:34:17,276
♪ What makes you so special, special ♪
1612
01:34:17,360 --> 01:34:21,072
♪ To think I would ever settle ♪
1613
01:34:21,155 --> 01:34:23,783
♪ For that devious dance ♪
1614
01:34:23,866 --> 01:34:29,872
♪ Between you and me, Devil, Devil ♪
1615
01:34:34,835 --> 01:34:37,088
♪ Rebel, rebel ♪
1616
01:34:40,466 --> 01:34:44,428
♪ Call me a rebel, rebel ♪
1617
01:34:47,932 --> 01:34:53,729
♪ I walk the plank, not a tear in my eye ♪
1618
01:34:54,689 --> 01:35:00,903
♪ I won't go down your blushing bride ♪
1619
01:35:01,445 --> 01:35:07,410
♪ Under the water
I'll be sharpening my knife ♪
1620
01:35:07,993 --> 01:35:11,330
♪ Do not try me, Devil, Devil ♪
1621
01:35:11,414 --> 01:35:14,667
♪ Cannot buy me, Devil, Devil ♪
1622
01:35:14,750 --> 01:35:20,798
♪ You won't make a fool of me, oh no ♪
1623
01:35:21,340 --> 01:35:24,885
♪ What makes you so special, special ♪
1624
01:35:24,969 --> 01:35:28,639
♪ To think I would ever settle ♪
1625
01:35:28,723 --> 01:35:31,392
♪ For that devious dance ♪
1626
01:35:31,475 --> 01:35:38,441
♪ Between you and me, Devil, Devil ♪
1627
01:35:40,526 --> 01:35:41,902
[music fades]