1 00:00:27,027 --> 00:00:28,946 Don't sit so far away. 2 00:00:29,029 --> 00:00:32,950 - Anything that creates a distance should be avoided. - Okay. 3 00:00:37,037 --> 00:00:38,956 And try not to frown. 4 00:00:39,039 --> 00:00:41,959 - I'm sorry. Was I frowning? - You have to relax. 5 00:00:42,042 --> 00:00:45,087 How can I be expected to open up if you're not relaxed? 6 00:00:45,212 --> 00:00:47,130 - Right. - Take a deep breath. 7 00:00:47,214 --> 00:00:49,132 Start again. 8 00:00:51,218 --> 00:00:54,638 As you can see, this piece of paper has been divided into squares. 9 00:00:54,721 --> 00:00:56,765 There are 287 of them. 10 00:00:56,890 --> 00:01:00,310 Your sex history will fit on this single page in a cryptic code. 11 00:01:00,394 --> 00:01:03,397 Don't forget to mention that there's no written key to the code. 12 00:01:03,480 --> 00:01:05,899 The interview subject will only be candid... 13 00:01:05,983 --> 00:01:08,986 if he knows he's speaking in the strictest confidence. 14 00:01:09,987 --> 00:01:12,614 Right. Okay. 15 00:01:14,825 --> 00:01:16,743 So, when were you born? 16 00:01:16,827 --> 00:01:18,787 June 23, 1894. 17 00:01:20,622 --> 00:01:22,291 Are you single or married? 18 00:01:22,416 --> 00:01:24,334 Married. 19 00:01:24,418 --> 00:01:27,421 - What is your race? - Don't waste time asking the obvious, Martin. 20 00:01:27,504 --> 00:01:30,090 - Fill it in yourself. - What is your religion? 21 00:01:30,174 --> 00:01:33,385 - Methodist. - How often do you attend church? 22 00:01:33,510 --> 00:01:37,347 Not at all now, but I did regularly until I was 19. 23 00:01:37,472 --> 00:01:40,767 How did you get along with your father and mother when you were growing up? 24 00:01:40,851 --> 00:01:42,769 That's a multiple question. 25 00:01:42,853 --> 00:01:45,772 It allows me to ignore any part I don't want to answer. 26 00:01:45,856 --> 00:01:48,984 - How did you get along with your mother? - Fine. 27 00:01:49,109 --> 00:01:52,112 - We had a close relationship. - And your father? 28 00:01:54,198 --> 00:01:57,492 How did you get along with your father? 29 00:02:02,998 --> 00:02:06,376 And what are we to do? 30 00:02:06,502 --> 00:02:09,713 We turn away from matters of the flesh... 31 00:02:09,838 --> 00:02:12,382 and we turn to things... 32 00:02:12,508 --> 00:02:14,468 of the spirit. 33 00:02:17,012 --> 00:02:18,889 Lust... 34 00:02:19,014 --> 00:02:22,059 has a thousand avenues... 35 00:02:22,184 --> 00:02:25,562 the dance hall, the ice cream parlor... 36 00:02:25,687 --> 00:02:27,564 the tenement saloon... 37 00:02:27,689 --> 00:02:30,067 the Turkish bath. 38 00:02:30,192 --> 00:02:32,778 Like the Hydra... 39 00:02:32,903 --> 00:02:36,573 it grows new heads everywhere. 40 00:02:41,370 --> 00:02:44,164 Even the modern inventions of science... 41 00:02:44,248 --> 00:02:47,543 are used to cultivate immorality. 42 00:02:49,837 --> 00:02:52,089 The gas engine... 43 00:02:52,214 --> 00:02:55,759 has brought us the automobile joyride... 44 00:02:55,884 --> 00:02:58,387 and an even more pernicious menace... 45 00:02:58,470 --> 00:03:01,181 the roadside brothel. 46 00:03:02,641 --> 00:03:04,560 Electricity... 47 00:03:04,643 --> 00:03:07,604 has made possible the degrading picture show. 48 00:03:07,688 --> 00:03:09,606 Because of the telephone... 49 00:03:09,690 --> 00:03:11,608 a young woman... 50 00:03:11,692 --> 00:03:14,987 can hear the voice of her suitor... 51 00:03:15,112 --> 00:03:18,240 on the pillow, right next to her. 52 00:03:20,325 --> 00:03:24,288 And let's not forget the most scandalous invention of all... 53 00:03:24,413 --> 00:03:26,748 the talon-slide fastener... 54 00:03:26,832 --> 00:03:29,126 otherwise known as the zipper... 55 00:03:29,251 --> 00:03:33,964 which provides every man and boy speedy access... 56 00:03:34,089 --> 00:03:35,966 to moral oblivion. 57 00:03:36,091 --> 00:03:38,760 Are you currently in good health? 58 00:03:38,844 --> 00:03:40,929 I suppose so. Mm-hmm. 59 00:03:41,013 --> 00:03:42,973 What makes you doubtful? 60 00:03:43,098 --> 00:03:44,975 Every doctor I've ever seen. 61 00:03:45,100 --> 00:03:47,477 Early disease left me with a weakened heart. 62 00:03:47,603 --> 00:03:50,814 Did you have any illnesses that kept you out of school? 63 00:03:50,939 --> 00:03:53,317 I had typhoid fever and rickets. 64 00:03:53,442 --> 00:03:55,319 Also rheumatic fever. 65 00:03:55,444 --> 00:03:58,572 Measles, chicken pox, pneumonia... 66 00:03:58,655 --> 00:04:01,158 and several bouts of influenza. 67 00:04:04,328 --> 00:04:06,997 Pomeroy, what are you doing? 68 00:04:07,122 --> 00:04:08,916 You're worse than Martin. 69 00:04:08,999 --> 00:04:11,001 Never make judgments about people. 70 00:04:11,126 --> 00:04:12,794 I wasn't. 71 00:04:12,920 --> 00:04:17,174 Your body posture told me that my list of ailments made you uncomfortable. 72 00:04:19,301 --> 00:04:22,012 Maybe it did. Sorry. 73 00:04:22,137 --> 00:04:24,348 Maintaining a nonjudgmental attitude... 74 00:04:24,473 --> 00:04:26,350 is harder than you think. 75 00:04:26,475 --> 00:04:29,353 The best way is to smile, nod your head... 76 00:04:29,478 --> 00:04:32,231 while looking me directly in the eye. 77 00:04:33,273 --> 00:04:35,609 Where were we? 78 00:04:35,692 --> 00:04:37,611 Your health as a boy. 79 00:04:37,694 --> 00:04:42,074 It improved greatly when I finally discovered the outdoors. 80 00:04:42,199 --> 00:04:45,410 I never got over the excitement of setting off into the wild... 81 00:04:45,536 --> 00:04:49,164 escaping bed, illness, family. 82 00:04:49,289 --> 00:04:51,041 Alone? 83 00:04:54,294 --> 00:04:58,215 No. No. Never alone. 84 00:04:58,298 --> 00:05:01,134 I was surrounded by friends. 85 00:05:03,637 --> 00:05:07,266 Being in the outdoors taught me to rely on my own judgment. 86 00:05:16,066 --> 00:05:18,944 I started to learn about things by grasping them... 87 00:05:19,069 --> 00:05:21,029 tasting them, looking at them. 88 00:05:22,906 --> 00:05:24,825 - Biology? - Yes. 89 00:05:24,908 --> 00:05:26,702 Biology. 90 00:05:26,827 --> 00:05:29,037 The science oflife. 91 00:05:29,162 --> 00:05:32,583 The fields and woods became my new place of worship... 92 00:05:32,708 --> 00:05:34,710 my cathedral. 93 00:05:39,256 --> 00:05:43,427 The only sadness they brought was when I had to leave them. 94 00:05:47,639 --> 00:05:50,392 How old were you when you first tried to pleasure yourself? 95 00:05:50,517 --> 00:05:52,936 No. No. No euphemisms. 96 00:05:53,020 --> 00:05:55,439 If you're talking to a college graduate... 97 00:05:55,522 --> 00:05:57,941 use "masturbation," "testicles," "penis"... 98 00:05:58,066 --> 00:06:00,611 "vagina," "vulva," "urination," "defecation." 99 00:06:00,736 --> 00:06:03,530 With the lower-level male, it's "jacking off," "balls"... 100 00:06:03,614 --> 00:06:05,365 "prick," "cunt," "piss," "shit." 101 00:06:07,451 --> 00:06:11,413 I don't know, Gebhard. Maybe your Harvard degree is too ivory tower for our purposes. 102 00:06:11,496 --> 00:06:13,415 I was brought up out west. 103 00:06:13,498 --> 00:06:16,043 I've rubbed shoulders with ranchers, miners my whole life. 104 00:06:16,126 --> 00:06:19,254 - And I thought you were gonna shave that mustache. - I like it. 105 00:06:19,379 --> 00:06:21,298 It's a disguise, a cover-up. 106 00:06:21,423 --> 00:06:24,718 Look at any movie. The villain's always the one with the mustache. 107 00:06:24,801 --> 00:06:26,803 My wife likes it. 108 00:06:26,887 --> 00:06:29,973 You have a chance to make an important contribution to knowledge and science. 109 00:06:30,098 --> 00:06:32,976 Are you telling me you'd give that up for a little facial hair? 110 00:06:33,101 --> 00:06:35,646 Yes, I suppose I am. 111 00:06:39,233 --> 00:06:41,151 Ah. 112 00:06:41,235 --> 00:06:44,112 Well, keep it trimmed. 113 00:06:45,781 --> 00:06:48,242 Let's get back to masturbation. 114 00:06:49,409 --> 00:06:52,246 That's a mating call. 115 00:06:58,544 --> 00:07:01,463 So, how'd you wind up at the Stevens Institute, Al? 116 00:07:01,547 --> 00:07:04,842 I thought you wanted to be a biologist. 117 00:07:04,967 --> 00:07:07,845 There are enough scientists in the worid, son. 118 00:07:07,970 --> 00:07:10,973 Engineers are what society needs now. 119 00:07:15,978 --> 00:07:18,981 I, um... I had one of the old fits again. 120 00:07:20,607 --> 00:07:22,818 I tried to stop it. 121 00:07:34,997 --> 00:07:40,377 "Any habit which causes the sex fluid to be discharged must be resisted. 122 00:07:40,460 --> 00:07:43,380 "Doctors link it to an assortment of illnesses... 123 00:07:43,463 --> 00:07:49,178 "including insanity, blindness, epilepsy... 124 00:07:49,261 --> 00:07:51,180 even death." 125 00:07:51,263 --> 00:07:54,224 What if it happens while you're asleep? 126 00:07:56,268 --> 00:07:59,188 "It is said that the loss of one ounce of seminal fluid... 127 00:07:59,271 --> 00:08:02,232 equals the loss of 40 ounces of blood." 128 00:08:02,357 --> 00:08:05,694 I'm killing myself, and I'm not even awake. 129 00:08:05,777 --> 00:08:07,738 What are we supposed to do? 130 00:08:10,782 --> 00:08:13,202 "Keep your bowels open... 131 00:08:13,285 --> 00:08:15,245 "read the Sermon on the Mount... 132 00:08:15,329 --> 00:08:18,248 "sit with your testicles submerged in a bowl of cold water... 133 00:08:20,626 --> 00:08:23,086 Think of your mother's pure love." 134 00:08:25,923 --> 00:08:27,925 Why don't we pray. 135 00:09:07,005 --> 00:09:07,422 - Come on. Keep firing questions. 136 00:09:07,464 --> 00:09:10,092 - Come on. Keep firing questions. 137 00:09:10,175 --> 00:09:13,387 Extreme rapidity makes it very difficult for a subject to lie. 138 00:09:13,470 --> 00:09:16,223 How young were you the first time you had an orgasm while dreaming? 139 00:09:16,306 --> 00:09:19,309 - How frequently did you have wet dreams? - What did you dream about? 140 00:09:19,434 --> 00:09:22,437 How young were you when you first experienced hugging or kissing? 141 00:09:22,521 --> 00:09:24,314 - Necking? - Petting? - Oral sex? 142 00:09:24,439 --> 00:09:27,985 How young were you when you no longer thought of your parents' home as your own? 143 00:09:28,110 --> 00:09:31,321 Al, it's getting late. Let's make the rounds. 144 00:09:34,700 --> 00:09:37,286 - Al.! - Be right down! 145 00:09:53,302 --> 00:09:55,179 Pack of Fatimas. 146 00:09:55,304 --> 00:09:59,183 Okay, son. That'll be 15 cents. 147 00:10:03,228 --> 00:10:06,648 You're a criminal, sir. I shall report you at once to the local authorities. 148 00:10:06,732 --> 00:10:08,650 DearJesus, a goddamn Protestant. 149 00:10:08,734 --> 00:10:12,487 - Did you not sell this vile weed to a minor? - What business is that of yours? 150 00:10:12,613 --> 00:10:16,533 It is the Lord's work to protect the young from temptation. 151 00:10:16,617 --> 00:10:20,329 - Men like you, sir, men of weak character... - Get the hell out of my store. 152 00:10:20,412 --> 00:10:24,666 - I've given you proper warning. - Are offensive to right-thinking American citizens... 153 00:10:24,791 --> 00:10:28,212 Shut up! You know what you are, Father? A prig. 154 00:10:28,295 --> 00:10:32,341 - Al. - A skinflint, a petty tyrant and a hypocrite to boot! 155 00:10:32,424 --> 00:10:34,885 You think you matter? You don't matter. 156 00:10:34,968 --> 00:10:37,429 There's something wrong with him. 157 00:10:37,554 --> 00:10:39,848 - Come on, Al. - No. 158 00:10:43,644 --> 00:10:46,063 Maybe your workload is too heavy. 159 00:10:46,146 --> 00:10:47,523 You could drop mechanical drawing. 160 00:10:47,606 --> 00:10:49,525 I've withdrawn from Stevens. 161 00:10:50,609 --> 00:10:52,528 That's impossible. 162 00:10:52,611 --> 00:10:55,364 I'm a senior member of the faculty. Someone would've informed me. 163 00:10:55,489 --> 00:10:57,199 Why? Everyone there hates you. 164 00:10:57,282 --> 00:11:00,661 I'm going to Bowdoin to study biology. 165 00:11:06,708 --> 00:11:09,378 And how do you intend to pay for that? 166 00:11:09,461 --> 00:11:11,380 They've given me a partial scholarship. 167 00:11:11,463 --> 00:11:14,216 And I've socked away most of my scouting money. 168 00:11:16,301 --> 00:11:18,679 You've become a shady person, Al... 169 00:11:18,762 --> 00:11:20,681 a person who keeps secrets. 170 00:11:20,764 --> 00:11:22,599 I had no choice. 171 00:11:24,268 --> 00:11:27,229 What a disappointment you turned out to be. 172 00:11:29,815 --> 00:11:32,943 - How many years of schooling did you complete? - Twenty. 173 00:11:33,068 --> 00:11:35,237 After taking my undergraduate degree at Bowdoin... 174 00:11:35,320 --> 00:11:38,240 I received my doctorate from the Bussey Institute at Harvard. 175 00:11:38,323 --> 00:11:40,951 I took a position as assistant professor of zoology... 176 00:11:41,076 --> 00:11:42,953 here at Indiana University. 177 00:11:43,078 --> 00:11:46,039 At first I studied the Rhaetulus didieri... 178 00:11:46,123 --> 00:11:47,875 or stag beetle. 179 00:11:47,958 --> 00:11:51,378 Then I discovered a far more fascinating insect. 180 00:11:51,461 --> 00:11:55,632 This is the American Cynipidae, or gall wasp. 181 00:11:57,176 --> 00:11:58,552 Here the wasp deposits an egg... 182 00:11:58,635 --> 00:12:00,554 into its host plant. 183 00:12:00,637 --> 00:12:02,472 In this case, an oak tree. 184 00:12:04,057 --> 00:12:07,686 The adult wasp chews its way through the tree... 185 00:12:07,811 --> 00:12:10,189 and copulates. 186 00:12:10,314 --> 00:12:13,817 At which point it has the good sense to die. 187 00:12:14,943 --> 00:12:16,445 The animal kingdom includes... 188 00:12:16,570 --> 00:12:19,907 at least two million insect species. 189 00:12:19,990 --> 00:12:23,744 So, what makes the gall wasp so fascinating? 190 00:12:24,786 --> 00:12:27,039 I've spent the last three years... 191 00:12:27,164 --> 00:12:30,542 crisscrossing the continent, collecting gall wasps. 192 00:12:30,667 --> 00:12:33,629 And what have I learned from my tiny friends, half the size of the household ant? 193 00:12:33,754 --> 00:12:35,506 That you need a date. 194 00:12:35,631 --> 00:12:37,925 Shh! 195 00:12:38,008 --> 00:12:42,221 After studying thousands of these pesky creatures under the microscope... 196 00:12:42,346 --> 00:12:45,933 I've yet to find a single gall wasp that's the same as another. 197 00:12:46,016 --> 00:12:48,810 In fact, some are so different... 198 00:12:48,936 --> 00:12:50,979 that the offspring of one generation... 199 00:12:51,104 --> 00:12:54,983 bear no more resemblance to their parents than a sheep bears to a goat. 200 00:12:55,067 --> 00:12:58,153 There are those of us who might take comfort in this fact. 201 00:13:02,658 --> 00:13:05,369 Consider the implications. 202 00:13:05,494 --> 00:13:10,249 If every single living thing is different from every other living thing... 203 00:13:10,374 --> 00:13:14,211 then diversity becomes life's one irreducible fact. 204 00:13:14,336 --> 00:13:16,630 Only variations are real. 205 00:13:16,713 --> 00:13:18,632 And to see them... 206 00:13:18,715 --> 00:13:21,844 you simply have to open your eyes. 207 00:13:39,486 --> 00:13:41,697 Hello. Mind if I sit here? 208 00:13:43,574 --> 00:13:45,367 Why? 209 00:13:45,450 --> 00:13:47,160 Because you're the only unattached male... 210 00:13:47,244 --> 00:13:49,037 and I'm the only unattached female. 211 00:13:50,914 --> 00:13:52,875 That's very sensible. 212 00:13:54,918 --> 00:13:57,838 A man who cooks. How refreshing. 213 00:13:57,921 --> 00:14:00,841 I picked it up when I went out west to collect galls. 214 00:14:00,924 --> 00:14:04,720 I was gone for 11 months, and I don't think I saw more than a dozen people the whole time. 215 00:14:04,845 --> 00:14:07,014 - Sounds lonely. - Oh. 216 00:14:07,097 --> 00:14:08,932 I enjoyed it. 217 00:14:10,559 --> 00:14:12,436 I've been reading up on gall wasps. 218 00:14:12,561 --> 00:14:15,689 - I think I know why they appeal to you. - Uh-huh. 219 00:14:15,772 --> 00:14:18,692 They have great big wings, but they can't fly. 220 00:14:18,775 --> 00:14:22,070 They are incapable of getting from this hill to that hill... 221 00:14:22,154 --> 00:14:24,072 unless it's close enough to walk... 222 00:14:24,156 --> 00:14:26,742 which means it's possible... 223 00:14:26,867 --> 00:14:29,786 to retrace each generation's steps, hill by hill... 224 00:14:29,912 --> 00:14:31,455 by hill by hill... 225 00:14:31,580 --> 00:14:33,957 all the way back to the very beginning. 226 00:14:34,082 --> 00:14:36,210 The gall wasp Garden of Eden. 227 00:14:37,294 --> 00:14:39,213 That's very interesting, Miss Millen. 228 00:14:39,296 --> 00:14:43,091 You've managed to bridge the gap between Darwin and the Book of Genesis in a single phrase. 229 00:14:44,426 --> 00:14:46,386 - McMillen. - Mmm? 230 00:14:46,512 --> 00:14:48,639 - Clara McMillen. - Oh! 231 00:14:48,764 --> 00:14:50,891 I'm Prok. 232 00:14:50,974 --> 00:14:54,436 - Sorry? - It's a nickname my graduate students have given me. 233 00:14:54,561 --> 00:14:58,065 Pro... fessor K... insey. Prok. 234 00:14:58,148 --> 00:15:01,068 At first I worried that it suggested an inappropriate level of intimacy... 235 00:15:01,151 --> 00:15:02,986 between teacher and student... 236 00:15:03,111 --> 00:15:05,322 that could lead to a loss of respect down the line. 237 00:15:05,447 --> 00:15:07,783 I think it just means they like you. 238 00:15:07,866 --> 00:15:11,578 Yes. Eventually I realized that. 239 00:15:13,997 --> 00:15:16,166 Um, tomato bisque and sandwiches? 240 00:15:16,291 --> 00:15:18,919 Please. 241 00:15:59,710 --> 00:16:01,628 Such an impressive collection. 242 00:16:01,712 --> 00:16:04,548 Thanks. They used to be categorized by period. 243 00:16:04,673 --> 00:16:07,050 But then I rearranged them alphabetically by composer. 244 00:16:07,176 --> 00:16:09,052 I find it's more efficient. 245 00:16:09,178 --> 00:16:12,556 Did you ever think about playing professionally? Because you're very good. 246 00:16:12,681 --> 00:16:14,558 Oh, please. Thank you. 247 00:16:14,683 --> 00:16:17,644 But, uh, "very good" isn't good enough. 248 00:16:18,770 --> 00:16:20,731 I got you a present. 249 00:16:22,983 --> 00:16:25,110 - Ah! - Here. 250 00:16:33,327 --> 00:16:35,245 Oh. 251 00:16:35,329 --> 00:16:37,372 Oh, how marvelous! 252 00:16:37,497 --> 00:16:39,958 - They're the right size. - Oh! 253 00:16:41,502 --> 00:16:43,462 Oh! 254 00:16:44,505 --> 00:16:46,798 Oh! 255 00:16:58,977 --> 00:17:01,563 At what age did you first have premarital intercourse? 256 00:17:01,688 --> 00:17:03,899 I didn't. 257 00:17:04,024 --> 00:17:07,236 - So, at the time of marriage you were a virgin? - Yes. 258 00:17:07,319 --> 00:17:09,238 Was your spouse also a virgin? 259 00:17:09,321 --> 00:17:11,073 Yes. 260 00:17:11,198 --> 00:17:13,951 When you got married, did you want to get married? 261 00:17:14,993 --> 00:17:16,954 Very much. 262 00:17:20,874 --> 00:17:24,419 I see marriage as a lifetime partnership between equals. 263 00:17:24,503 --> 00:17:27,756 You're a brilliant scholar with a keenly perceptive mind... 264 00:17:27,840 --> 00:17:30,759 and a profound respect for nature. 265 00:17:30,843 --> 00:17:35,097 You're a capable hiker and camper and a champion swimmer... 266 00:17:35,180 --> 00:17:38,600 and you're the one girl in a million who's as interested in insects as I am. 267 00:17:38,684 --> 00:17:41,103 To be honest, Prok... 268 00:17:41,186 --> 00:17:43,105 I'm just not sure. 269 00:17:43,188 --> 00:17:45,107 Okay. 270 00:17:45,190 --> 00:17:47,651 - I consider myself a free thinker. - Yes! 271 00:17:47,734 --> 00:17:49,653 Frankly, I find you a little "churchy." 272 00:17:49,736 --> 00:17:51,947 "Churchy"? 273 00:17:52,030 --> 00:17:54,199 And I've had another proposal. 274 00:17:56,159 --> 00:17:58,579 I'm not saying no. I just need time. 275 00:18:01,748 --> 00:18:03,250 Prok. 276 00:18:03,333 --> 00:18:05,127 I think you're mean! 277 00:18:05,252 --> 00:18:08,589 Mean, heartless and cold! 278 00:19:13,862 --> 00:19:15,989 Astounding. 279 00:19:35,092 --> 00:19:37,052 If you'll have me. 280 00:19:56,613 --> 00:19:59,241 A gall wasp in amber. 281 00:20:00,450 --> 00:20:03,871 - How old is it? - About 80 million years or so. 282 00:20:05,122 --> 00:20:07,708 Does Mrs. Kinsey like her wedding present? 283 00:20:07,791 --> 00:20:10,294 It's perfect. 284 00:20:49,374 --> 00:20:51,460 - I'm sorry. - No, no, I... 285 00:20:51,543 --> 00:20:53,921 l... 286 00:20:59,843 --> 00:21:01,803 How beautiful. 287 00:21:04,473 --> 00:21:06,433 May I? 288 00:21:29,540 --> 00:21:31,416 I'm sorry. 289 00:21:31,542 --> 00:21:33,710 I'm a little nervous. 290 00:21:34,753 --> 00:21:36,672 It's okay. W-We don't have to... 291 00:21:36,755 --> 00:21:39,174 No! 292 00:21:41,218 --> 00:21:43,178 I'm ready. 293 00:22:08,745 --> 00:22:11,874 - Forgive me, Mac. - No, I'm sorry. 294 00:22:11,999 --> 00:22:14,209 It's just... It hurts too much. 295 00:22:28,515 --> 00:22:31,059 It's... It's a long drive to my parents'! 296 00:22:32,603 --> 00:22:34,605 We should get some sleep. 297 00:22:38,066 --> 00:22:41,445 Robert's had a 92 in mechanical drawing... 298 00:22:41,570 --> 00:22:44,198 a 95 in mathematics... 299 00:22:44,281 --> 00:22:46,867 and a clean 100... 300 00:22:46,950 --> 00:22:48,869 in shop practice. 301 00:22:48,952 --> 00:22:51,872 Huh. That's splendid, Robert. Congratulations. 302 00:22:51,955 --> 00:22:54,875 I was worried that his teachers were showing him favor... 303 00:22:54,958 --> 00:22:56,877 due to my senior position... 304 00:22:56,960 --> 00:22:59,880 but they tell me he is the most gifted student in his class. 305 00:22:59,963 --> 00:23:02,132 Well, living with the best teacher at Stevens doesn't hurt, Father. 306 00:23:02,257 --> 00:23:05,260 Oh, please. 307 00:23:05,385 --> 00:23:09,389 At this rate, he'll finish his degree in, uh, three years. 308 00:23:11,850 --> 00:23:14,811 Al, tell us what you've been working on. 309 00:23:16,855 --> 00:23:18,982 - Well... - Don't bother, Al. 310 00:23:19,107 --> 00:23:22,569 She won't be able to follow you. She's only had a fourth-grade education. 311 00:23:27,324 --> 00:23:29,910 I'm studying gall wasps, Mom. 312 00:23:29,993 --> 00:23:34,456 I've gathered over 100,000 specimens, which is really only a drop in the bucket. 313 00:23:34,581 --> 00:23:36,250 But my aim is... 314 00:23:36,333 --> 00:23:39,586 Ten years ofhigher education, and he's still collecting bugs. 315 00:23:45,008 --> 00:23:47,761 Prok's also written a biology textbook. 316 00:23:49,388 --> 00:23:51,139 Really? 317 00:23:51,265 --> 00:23:53,517 It's read in colleges across the country. 318 00:23:54,685 --> 00:23:57,312 It's actually a very good read. 319 00:23:57,396 --> 00:24:00,607 So I assume you plan to start a family soon. 320 00:24:02,317 --> 00:24:04,862 No, no, I... Don't rush it. 321 00:24:04,987 --> 00:24:08,031 Once you have children, you're tied down forever... your life is over. 322 00:24:15,205 --> 00:24:17,207 What? 323 00:24:19,710 --> 00:24:22,129 I don't know what I expected, exactly... 324 00:24:22,212 --> 00:24:25,132 but he's far worse than I ever imagined. 325 00:24:25,215 --> 00:24:28,135 He is pretty awful, isn't he? 326 00:24:30,387 --> 00:24:33,182 - "I once read... - Shh! 327 00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:37,728 "That the decline of the Roman empire... 328 00:24:37,853 --> 00:24:40,981 was the result of too-frequent bathing." 329 00:24:43,025 --> 00:24:45,194 Shh! Shh! 330 00:24:45,277 --> 00:24:47,237 Shh. 331 00:24:47,362 --> 00:24:49,239 "Some speculate... 332 00:24:49,364 --> 00:24:51,241 "that rampant adultery... 333 00:24:51,366 --> 00:24:54,369 is a possible cause of earthquakes." 334 00:25:07,257 --> 00:25:09,885 I'm sorry you had to witness that. 335 00:25:12,971 --> 00:25:16,850 I think I really fell in love with you tonight. 336 00:25:18,143 --> 00:25:21,021 Seeing you here. 337 00:25:21,104 --> 00:25:24,358 Do you think we can make this work, Mac? 338 00:25:25,859 --> 00:25:27,819 I don't know. 339 00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:33,075 I've... I've heard some people... 340 00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:35,744 just don't fit together. 341 00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:40,541 There's no one I'd rather be with. 342 00:25:42,125 --> 00:25:44,419 Physically? I mean... 343 00:25:47,548 --> 00:25:50,384 If only there were some way to know. 344 00:25:51,885 --> 00:25:54,805 That's it, Mac. 345 00:25:54,888 --> 00:25:57,808 Every problem has a solution... even this one. 346 00:25:57,891 --> 00:26:01,645 We just need to talk to someone, an expert who's studied the matter. 347 00:26:01,770 --> 00:26:03,939 What are you doing? 348 00:26:04,064 --> 00:26:06,149 Why waste any more time? 349 00:26:06,275 --> 00:26:10,946 Your hymen shows an inordinate thickness. 350 00:26:11,071 --> 00:26:14,283 Dr. Kinsey, how large is your penis? 351 00:26:14,408 --> 00:26:16,618 Excuse me? 352 00:26:16,743 --> 00:26:19,413 When erect, how large is it? 353 00:26:19,496 --> 00:26:23,000 How long from the scrotum? Here? 354 00:26:25,169 --> 00:26:26,962 Here? 355 00:26:28,714 --> 00:26:31,258 Here? 356 00:26:37,264 --> 00:26:39,308 I'm surprised you didn't pass out. 357 00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:43,478 Is there anything we can do? 358 00:26:43,562 --> 00:26:47,024 It's a common-enough problem. Would you like to take care of it today? 359 00:26:49,985 --> 00:26:51,945 Sure. 360 00:27:22,100 --> 00:27:24,478 - Oh! - God! 361 00:27:24,561 --> 00:27:26,480 God. God. 362 00:27:26,563 --> 00:27:29,483 What was the maximum number of times you had intercourse with your spouse... 363 00:27:29,566 --> 00:27:31,318 in any seven-day period? 364 00:27:31,401 --> 00:27:34,488 I'd say... 20 or so. 365 00:27:34,571 --> 00:27:38,700 At least three times a day the first week, so 21, at a minimum. 366 00:27:38,784 --> 00:27:40,327 Is there tongue kissing during foreplay? 367 00:27:40,410 --> 00:27:42,162 - Yes. - Yes. 368 00:27:42,246 --> 00:27:43,705 - Hand on breast? - Yes. 369 00:27:43,789 --> 00:27:45,916 - Mouth? - Hand on female genitalia? 370 00:27:46,041 --> 00:27:47,376 - Hand on penis? - Yes. 371 00:27:47,501 --> 00:27:49,211 Mouth on female genitalia? 372 00:27:49,294 --> 00:27:51,046 - Mouth on penis? - Yes. 373 00:27:51,129 --> 00:27:52,381 - Yes. - Yes. 374 00:27:52,506 --> 00:27:54,091 - Yes. - Yes. 375 00:27:54,216 --> 00:27:56,051 Yes. 376 00:27:56,176 --> 00:27:57,511 Yes, yes, yes. 377 00:27:57,594 --> 00:28:00,514 I became pregnant with Anne in 1923. 378 00:28:00,597 --> 00:28:02,724 I decided to give up my graduate work. 379 00:28:02,850 --> 00:28:06,728 By the time Anne was born, I had collected over 200,000 gall wasps. 380 00:28:06,812 --> 00:28:08,772 Joan came along a year later. 381 00:28:08,856 --> 00:28:12,442 Just afterJoan's fifth birthday, I reached my goal of half a million wasps. 382 00:28:12,568 --> 00:28:14,403 And Bruce is our youngest. 383 00:28:14,486 --> 00:28:17,739 Bruce found the gall that hatched the millionth wasp. 384 00:28:17,823 --> 00:28:20,367 It was in the mountains outside Mexico City. 385 00:28:20,450 --> 00:28:22,578 They grow up so fast. 386 00:28:22,703 --> 00:28:26,164 Wejust didn't know who to talk to, Professor Kinsey. 387 00:28:26,290 --> 00:28:28,166 What about your parents? 388 00:28:28,292 --> 00:28:30,169 I'd rather die. 389 00:28:30,294 --> 00:28:33,172 We heard you had good advice for some of the biology students. 390 00:28:33,297 --> 00:28:36,925 Sexual difficulty among newly married people is more common than you think. 391 00:28:37,050 --> 00:28:39,052 It's nothing to be ashamed of. 392 00:28:39,178 --> 00:28:42,306 - How long have you been married? - Two months now. 393 00:28:42,431 --> 00:28:45,475 And, Emily, you've had absolutely no response during that time? 394 00:28:45,601 --> 00:28:48,103 It's like I'm dead down there. 395 00:28:48,228 --> 00:28:52,065 We went to the doctor, and he said there's nothing wrong. 396 00:28:52,149 --> 00:28:55,277 Does Ben ever use his fingers to excite you? 397 00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:57,613 Um... 398 00:28:57,696 --> 00:28:59,740 why bother... 399 00:28:59,823 --> 00:29:03,118 now that we can do the real thing? 400 00:29:04,328 --> 00:29:06,788 What's your most common sexual position? 401 00:29:07,998 --> 00:29:09,917 There's more than one? 402 00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:12,669 Mac and I are still discovering some. 403 00:29:14,796 --> 00:29:17,674 Emily, were you sexually experienced before you got married? 404 00:29:17,799 --> 00:29:19,676 No. 405 00:29:19,801 --> 00:29:23,263 I still thought babies came out of women's navels. 406 00:29:25,849 --> 00:29:27,976 Did you ever masturbate? 407 00:29:29,019 --> 00:29:31,021 It's all my fault. 408 00:29:32,189 --> 00:29:34,358 I'm damaged in some way. 409 00:29:34,483 --> 00:29:37,027 I'm frigid. 410 00:29:37,152 --> 00:29:39,613 I don't think that's the problem at all. 411 00:29:39,738 --> 00:29:42,699 Ben, do you ever perform oral sex on Emily? 412 00:29:44,785 --> 00:29:47,788 Uh, I... I don't know what that means, sir. 413 00:29:47,871 --> 00:29:50,457 Genital kissing. 414 00:29:57,589 --> 00:30:01,677 My brother told me that that causes problems... 415 00:30:01,802 --> 00:30:03,804 later on... 416 00:30:03,887 --> 00:30:05,889 with having babies. 417 00:30:06,014 --> 00:30:08,016 Oh, I don't think that's true. 418 00:30:08,141 --> 00:30:10,143 No, I heard that too. 419 00:30:10,269 --> 00:30:14,231 I can assure you, there's no relation between oral sex and pregnancy. 420 00:30:14,356 --> 00:30:16,149 But how do you know? 421 00:30:16,233 --> 00:30:20,487 How do I know the Earth is round? It just is. 422 00:30:21,655 --> 00:30:24,366 But... has anyone actually proven... 423 00:30:24,449 --> 00:30:26,368 that there's no connection? 424 00:30:26,451 --> 00:30:29,371 If you're asking whether there's been a scientific study... 425 00:30:29,454 --> 00:30:32,708 devoted to the subject of oral copulation and fertility... 426 00:30:32,833 --> 00:30:35,252 well... 427 00:30:35,377 --> 00:30:38,255 frankly, I don't know. 428 00:30:39,965 --> 00:30:41,508 Well... 429 00:30:41,592 --> 00:30:43,594 then how can you be sure? 430 00:30:45,554 --> 00:30:48,432 I felt like a blundering amateur. 431 00:30:48,557 --> 00:30:51,435 I couldn't imagine where those kids' crazy idea came from... 432 00:30:51,560 --> 00:30:53,437 until I discovered this... 433 00:30:53,562 --> 00:30:55,939 Ideal Marriage: Its Physiology and Technique. 434 00:30:56,064 --> 00:30:57,941 Oh, dear. 435 00:30:58,066 --> 00:31:00,944 "Oral contact, while acceptable as a means of stimulation... 436 00:31:01,069 --> 00:31:04,239 is pathological if carried through to orgasm and possibly injurious." 437 00:31:04,323 --> 00:31:06,241 I must be in grave danger then. 438 00:31:06,325 --> 00:31:11,747 Wait. "The hand should never be used for the purpose of sexual excitation. 439 00:31:11,830 --> 00:31:15,584 "There is but one finger of love with which to approach the female genitals... 440 00:31:15,667 --> 00:31:17,836 and that is the male organ." 441 00:31:20,881 --> 00:31:23,800 It's all just hooey. Morality disguised as fact. 442 00:31:23,884 --> 00:31:27,221 - Just do your tie. - Hmm? Oh. 443 00:31:27,304 --> 00:31:29,389 Professor Kinsey's methods... 444 00:31:29,473 --> 00:31:32,100 of collecting vast numbers of gall wasps... 445 00:31:32,226 --> 00:31:34,937 over a wide geographic range... 446 00:31:35,020 --> 00:31:37,272 have made him a starred scientist. 447 00:31:37,397 --> 00:31:41,109 They have also earned him his immortal nickname... 448 00:31:41,193 --> 00:31:43,237 "Get-A-Million" Kinsey. 449 00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:45,656 "Bore-A-Million" Kinsey. 450 00:31:47,407 --> 00:31:51,161 His new book, The Origin of Higher Categories in... 451 00:31:51,286 --> 00:31:53,163 "Sinnips"? "Cynips"? 452 00:31:53,288 --> 00:31:55,165 Close enough. 453 00:31:55,290 --> 00:31:58,168 Traces the origin of the gall wasp back to its birthplace... 454 00:31:58,293 --> 00:31:59,962 in the Upper Cretaceous. 455 00:32:00,087 --> 00:32:02,214 So, now I give you... 456 00:32:02,339 --> 00:32:04,299 Dr. Kinsey. 457 00:32:09,805 --> 00:32:14,184 Thank you, President Wells, for that incisive description of 20 years of work. 458 00:32:14,309 --> 00:32:17,271 I thought you might actually have read my book... 459 00:32:17,396 --> 00:32:19,314 until I saw those crib notes in your palm. 460 00:32:19,398 --> 00:32:22,484 Crib notes! 461 00:32:22,609 --> 00:32:24,695 Of course, my other book on cynips... 462 00:32:24,820 --> 00:32:27,698 hasn't been checked out of the library in six years. 463 00:32:27,823 --> 00:32:30,868 I'd be surprised if a dozen people have read it. 464 00:32:30,993 --> 00:32:35,414 But I guess I always knew that gall wasps weren't going to... 465 00:32:36,540 --> 00:32:39,543 make them beat a path to my door. 466 00:32:45,048 --> 00:32:47,092 In any case, thank you, Herman. 467 00:32:47,217 --> 00:32:50,929 This is... This is splendid. A really fine event indeed. 468 00:32:52,055 --> 00:32:54,349 - Thank you. - Cheers, Prok. 469 00:32:54,433 --> 00:32:56,560 - Congratulations. - Hear.! Hear.! 470 00:32:56,685 --> 00:32:58,562 Cheers. 471 00:32:58,687 --> 00:33:00,564 Some reform-minded undergraduates... 472 00:33:00,689 --> 00:33:02,524 paid me a visit the other day, Thurman. 473 00:33:02,608 --> 00:33:05,194 They are campaigning for a sex course. 474 00:33:05,319 --> 00:33:07,487 I already cover sex in the hygiene class. 475 00:33:07,571 --> 00:33:10,490 Which the student paper called the most useless course on campus. 476 00:33:10,574 --> 00:33:14,494 Oh, Kinsey. I'm glad to see middle age hasn't softened the edges. 477 00:33:14,578 --> 00:33:17,915 - Mrs. Kinsey. - Not only is your class irrelevant, it's irresponsible. 478 00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:20,876 There's a V.D. Epidemic sweeping this country, Thurman. 479 00:33:20,959 --> 00:33:24,546 And that's my fault? I don't know whether to be insulted or flattered. 480 00:33:24,671 --> 00:33:27,174 Besides, there's a cure for syphilis... 481 00:33:27,299 --> 00:33:29,176 and it's called abstinence. 482 00:33:29,259 --> 00:33:30,677 Penicillin works just as well. 483 00:33:30,761 --> 00:33:34,556 Herman, the trustees appointed you to shake things up around here. 484 00:33:34,681 --> 00:33:37,559 Why not address the need for sex instruction that deals frankly... 485 00:33:37,684 --> 00:33:40,062 with students' real questions, real concerns? 486 00:33:40,187 --> 00:33:43,565 Open sex instruction promotes daydreaming. 487 00:33:43,690 --> 00:33:47,569 It is better to address these matters in a general medical course. 488 00:33:47,653 --> 00:33:49,571 You mean an anti-sex course... 489 00:33:49,655 --> 00:33:52,074 with irrelevant gabble about dahlias and bees. 490 00:33:52,199 --> 00:33:54,576 Gentlemen. Please. 491 00:33:54,660 --> 00:33:56,578 I am going to take the students'proposal under advisement. 492 00:33:56,703 --> 00:33:58,288 Good. 493 00:33:58,413 --> 00:34:00,290 But since I just got this job... 494 00:34:00,415 --> 00:34:03,252 and wouldn't mind hanging on to it for a couple of weeks... 495 00:34:03,335 --> 00:34:06,755 I think I'm gonna stick with the hygiene course for now. 496 00:34:06,839 --> 00:34:09,258 Medical authorities state... 497 00:34:09,341 --> 00:34:13,637 that, of the type of teenage giris applying at public health stations for aid... 498 00:34:13,762 --> 00:34:16,932 the percentage that is infected with venereal disease... 499 00:34:17,057 --> 00:34:19,101 is always very high. 500 00:34:19,184 --> 00:34:21,436 In all of these cases... 501 00:34:21,562 --> 00:34:24,773 where youthful energy and inquisitiveness are unrestrained... 502 00:34:24,898 --> 00:34:28,110 The sex urge is always present... 503 00:34:28,193 --> 00:34:30,779 and promiscuity nearly always follows... 504 00:34:30,863 --> 00:34:32,614 - With its inevitable harvest... 505 00:34:32,698 --> 00:34:36,285 of abortions, illegitimate births and... 506 00:34:36,410 --> 00:34:38,078 disease. 507 00:34:38,161 --> 00:34:42,457 - What's your trouble, Jerry? - Well, I... I've got a pretty bad sore down here. 508 00:34:42,541 --> 00:34:45,752 Just stretch out on that table over there. We'll have a look at you. 509 00:34:45,836 --> 00:34:47,838 The story vividly portrays... 510 00:34:47,963 --> 00:34:50,966 the misery caused to innocent victims... 511 00:34:51,091 --> 00:34:53,010 - By the ignorance or selfishness... 512 00:34:53,093 --> 00:34:56,013 of individuals infected with syphilis. 513 00:34:56,138 --> 00:34:58,015 You had to learn the hard way... 514 00:34:58,140 --> 00:35:00,601 that you can't tell by the looks of a woman whether she has syphilis or not. 515 00:35:00,726 --> 00:35:02,561 I guess that finishes me. 516 00:35:02,686 --> 00:35:05,814 I'll have to quit school and go someplace where people don't know who I am. 517 00:35:05,939 --> 00:35:08,984 The cure forjuvenile delinquency is... 518 00:35:09,109 --> 00:35:11,737 an education in the dangers and consequences... 519 00:35:11,862 --> 00:35:14,198 of breaking the time-tested rules... 520 00:35:14,323 --> 00:35:17,868 laid down for the regulation of human conduct. 521 00:35:20,787 --> 00:35:23,665 The idea that men need sex... 522 00:35:23,790 --> 00:35:25,751 is a lie. 523 00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:28,837 If it were true... 524 00:35:28,962 --> 00:35:32,132 the boy who exercises his sex organs regularly... 525 00:35:32,216 --> 00:35:36,845 would achieve the greatest sexual experiences in later life. 526 00:35:36,970 --> 00:35:41,850 Whereas, in fact, that boy is likely to be sexually dead... 527 00:35:41,975 --> 00:35:44,353 by the time he reaches adulthood. 528 00:35:45,687 --> 00:35:47,898 Abstinence poses no difficulty... 529 00:35:48,023 --> 00:35:50,734 for the college-age male. 530 00:35:50,859 --> 00:35:54,238 Men don't reach their sexual peak until the age of 40. 531 00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:57,074 It is the lower-class male... 532 00:35:57,199 --> 00:35:59,076 often Negro... 533 00:35:59,201 --> 00:36:03,247 who finds it difficult to control his urges. 534 00:36:03,372 --> 00:36:06,708 However, perfect inhibition... 535 00:36:06,792 --> 00:36:09,211 although an ideal to be striven for... 536 00:36:09,294 --> 00:36:11,213 is not always achievable. 537 00:36:11,296 --> 00:36:14,550 Stress and the worries of the day... 538 00:36:14,633 --> 00:36:17,553 can lead to a weakening of resolve... 539 00:36:17,636 --> 00:36:20,430 opening the door to temptation. 540 00:36:22,891 --> 00:36:25,310 When tense at bedtime... 541 00:36:26,562 --> 00:36:30,107 I find there are little tricks to relaxing. 542 00:36:30,232 --> 00:36:32,109 If I can't get to sleep... 543 00:36:32,234 --> 00:36:34,528 I like to close my eyes... 544 00:36:34,611 --> 00:36:37,531 and think of all theJohns I know. 545 00:36:37,614 --> 00:36:39,908 Oh. 546 00:36:41,118 --> 00:36:44,037 Well, not onlyJohns. 547 00:36:44,121 --> 00:36:46,039 Sometimes Peters. 548 00:36:46,123 --> 00:36:48,709 How about Dicks? 549 00:36:48,792 --> 00:36:51,461 I'm sorry? 550 00:36:53,255 --> 00:36:54,673 If you're here to enroll in Dr. Kinsey's class... 551 00:36:54,715 --> 00:36:56,133 If you're here to enroll in Dr. Kinsey's class... 552 00:36:56,258 --> 00:36:59,511 it's only open to faculty members and their wives, graduate students... 553 00:36:59,636 --> 00:37:01,513 seniors and married undergraduates. 554 00:37:03,557 --> 00:37:05,934 Come back and try in the spring. 555 00:37:06,059 --> 00:37:07,936 Are you a senior? 556 00:37:08,061 --> 00:37:10,022 Um, we're engaged. 557 00:37:11,690 --> 00:37:13,650 - Congratulations. - Thank you. 558 00:37:18,488 --> 00:37:21,909 Why offer a marriage course? 559 00:37:21,992 --> 00:37:23,911 Because society has interfered... 560 00:37:23,994 --> 00:37:27,206 with what should be a normal biological development... 561 00:37:27,331 --> 00:37:30,626 causing a scandalous delay of sexual activity... 562 00:37:30,751 --> 00:37:33,629 which leads to sexual difficulty in early marriage. 563 00:37:33,754 --> 00:37:37,633 In an uninhibited society, a 12-year-old would know most of the biology... 564 00:37:37,758 --> 00:37:40,802 which I will have to give you in formal lectures. 565 00:37:40,928 --> 00:37:45,933 So, let's start with the six stages of the coital sequence. 566 00:37:46,016 --> 00:37:48,310 Stimulation... 567 00:37:48,393 --> 00:37:50,938 lubrication, erection... 568 00:37:52,773 --> 00:37:54,983 increased sensitivity... 569 00:37:55,108 --> 00:37:58,111 orgasm and nervous release. 570 00:37:58,237 --> 00:38:02,699 Both sexes experience all six stages equally. 571 00:38:07,538 --> 00:38:12,042 Stimulation. 572 00:38:13,335 --> 00:38:16,129 Who can tell me which part of the human body... 573 00:38:16,213 --> 00:38:18,215 can enlarge a hundred times? 574 00:38:19,216 --> 00:38:22,970 Um... miss. 575 00:38:24,888 --> 00:38:27,015 I'm sure I don't know. 576 00:38:27,140 --> 00:38:31,019 And you've no right to ask me such a question in a mixed class. 577 00:38:31,144 --> 00:38:34,356 I was referring to the pupil of your eye, young lady. 578 00:38:37,067 --> 00:38:40,487 And I think I should tell you you're in for a terrible disappointment. 579 00:38:42,155 --> 00:38:46,243 It is often with the eye that stimulation begins. 580 00:38:53,792 --> 00:38:57,045 The actual adjustments which are made in the male and female genitalia... 581 00:38:57,171 --> 00:38:59,131 are shown on this slide. 582 00:39:00,257 --> 00:39:02,092 The vagina must be spread open... 583 00:39:02,217 --> 00:39:05,053 as the erect male organ penetrates. 584 00:39:06,305 --> 00:39:09,183 You will see that the clitoris is swollen... 585 00:39:09,266 --> 00:39:13,103 thus providing the erotic stimulation necessary... 586 00:39:13,228 --> 00:39:15,939 for the completion of the act on the part of the female. 587 00:39:19,067 --> 00:39:21,737 You will also see that this point on the penis... 588 00:39:21,862 --> 00:39:25,449 which is one of the most sensitive points, is similarly stimulated. 589 00:39:30,162 --> 00:39:32,080 Ohh! 590 00:39:32,164 --> 00:39:34,416 Where on earth did you get that cap? 591 00:39:34,499 --> 00:39:36,752 Oh. Professor Kinsey. I'm sorry. 592 00:39:36,835 --> 00:39:38,754 It's a whaler's hat. 593 00:39:38,837 --> 00:39:41,757 Not very pretty, but extremely practical in a storm. 594 00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:44,593 - Do I know you? - I'm in your marriage course. Clyde Martin. 595 00:39:44,718 --> 00:39:47,429 How are you finding it, Mr. Martin? 596 00:39:47,513 --> 00:39:51,099 Oh, it's the most enlightening class I've ever taken. 597 00:39:51,225 --> 00:39:54,228 Well, I'd better get going. I've got a job interview at the zoology department. 598 00:39:54,353 --> 00:39:57,147 Forget that. Come with me. 599 00:39:57,272 --> 00:39:59,233 All right. 600 00:40:02,277 --> 00:40:05,822 Don't worry. Dr. Kinsey will be staying late. He'll get to all of you. 601 00:40:05,948 --> 00:40:07,658 Can too much sex cause cancer? 602 00:40:07,783 --> 00:40:09,618 Will wearing high heels make me sterile? 603 00:40:09,743 --> 00:40:11,745 I think my vagina's abnormally shaped. 604 00:40:11,828 --> 00:40:13,121 Can you get syphilis from a whistle? 605 00:40:13,247 --> 00:40:16,291 Is homosexuality a form of insanity? 606 00:40:16,416 --> 00:40:18,377 I think about my cat. 607 00:40:19,419 --> 00:40:21,255 A lot! 608 00:40:21,338 --> 00:40:25,425 Does su-s-s-suppressing sex... 609 00:40:25,509 --> 00:40:27,427 lead to stuttering? 610 00:40:27,511 --> 00:40:29,847 Is my penis smaller than most? 611 00:40:29,972 --> 00:40:34,309 Does too much masturbation cause premature ejaculation? 612 00:40:34,434 --> 00:40:38,188 Is it unusual for my boyfriend to touch my anus? 613 00:40:38,313 --> 00:40:41,149 All excellent questions. 614 00:40:41,233 --> 00:40:43,151 They all have the same answer... 615 00:40:43,235 --> 00:40:46,947 I don't know. 616 00:40:47,030 --> 00:40:50,284 From a sexual standpoint, it's hard to say what's common or rare... 617 00:40:50,367 --> 00:40:53,537 because we know so little about what people actually do. 618 00:40:53,662 --> 00:40:58,125 This leaves most of us feeling anxious or guilty. 619 00:40:58,208 --> 00:41:00,627 Am I interested in the right things? 620 00:41:00,711 --> 00:41:03,881 Do I do things the normal way? 621 00:41:04,006 --> 00:41:06,884 One of the ways of finding out what people do... 622 00:41:07,009 --> 00:41:09,386 is to find out what they've done. 623 00:41:09,511 --> 00:41:13,682 So please, take the time to fill out these sex questionnaires. 624 00:41:13,765 --> 00:41:17,311 Try to be as accurate and honest as you possibly can. 625 00:41:17,394 --> 00:41:20,314 This will only work... Pass them along, please. 626 00:41:20,397 --> 00:41:22,900 This will only work if you tell the truth. 627 00:41:23,025 --> 00:41:26,403 Dr. Kinsey, this is really... amazing. 628 00:41:26,528 --> 00:41:28,906 These colors are incredible. 629 00:41:29,031 --> 00:41:32,910 It's the most complete collection east of the Mississippi. 630 00:41:33,035 --> 00:41:35,996 We have over 250 separate varieties of irises. 631 00:41:38,123 --> 00:41:42,419 Good work, Martin, but you're using the wrong muscle group. 632 00:41:44,338 --> 00:41:48,217 Come on. Here. Bend the legs. Use the thighs. 633 00:41:48,300 --> 00:41:50,552 - Okay. - The arms should only be used to guide. 634 00:41:50,636 --> 00:41:53,013 No, you do it. Guide. 635 00:41:53,096 --> 00:41:55,098 Ah! 636 00:41:56,433 --> 00:41:58,727 Lemonade. 637 00:41:58,810 --> 00:42:01,230 Mac, these responses will floor you. 638 00:42:01,355 --> 00:42:04,024 The gap between what we assume people do and what they actually do... 639 00:42:04,107 --> 00:42:05,776 is enormous. 640 00:42:05,901 --> 00:42:08,111 You know what amazes me? 641 00:42:08,237 --> 00:42:11,198 There's no relation between how sexy a girl looks and her sex life. 642 00:42:11,281 --> 00:42:13,200 The ugly ones seem to get all the action. 643 00:42:13,283 --> 00:42:16,787 I always thought "ugly" was an ugly word. 644 00:42:16,912 --> 00:42:18,372 Sorry. 645 00:42:20,374 --> 00:42:22,376 Not only does every male in the class have a history of masturbation. 646 00:42:22,459 --> 00:42:24,586 Most of the women do too. 647 00:42:24,670 --> 00:42:28,131 That doesn't surprise me. What about premarital sex? 648 00:42:28,257 --> 00:42:31,385 About a third of the married men claim at least one experience. 649 00:42:31,468 --> 00:42:34,763 - It's only one in 10 for the women. - If they're telling the truth. 650 00:42:34,847 --> 00:42:37,599 And there's extramarital sex too. 651 00:42:37,683 --> 00:42:40,435 Not just heterosexual, but homosexual. 652 00:42:40,519 --> 00:42:43,230 I just wish we could get more volunteers. 653 00:42:43,313 --> 00:42:45,607 A hundred cases is hardly representative. 654 00:42:45,691 --> 00:42:47,609 Maybe it's because it's a questionnaire. 655 00:42:47,693 --> 00:42:49,820 Feels too much like homework or a test. 656 00:42:49,945 --> 00:42:53,574 I agree. Also, people don't know if they can trust you. 657 00:42:53,657 --> 00:42:56,785 - They have to be sure their secrets are safe. - But that's ridiculous. 658 00:42:56,910 --> 00:42:59,788 Everyone knows I keep those questionnaires under lock and key. 659 00:42:59,913 --> 00:43:02,249 Clyde has a point. 660 00:43:02,332 --> 00:43:05,252 You're asking people to reveal information that's very sensitive... 661 00:43:05,335 --> 00:43:07,337 possibly even damaging. 662 00:43:09,214 --> 00:43:11,633 What if you just talked to them? 663 00:43:11,717 --> 00:43:14,678 Then all their secrets would be in your head. 664 00:43:19,224 --> 00:43:22,311 Martin, you should have spoken up months ago. 665 00:43:24,771 --> 00:43:27,107 I can't tell. Was that a compliment? 666 00:43:27,191 --> 00:43:29,193 Yes, I think it was. 667 00:43:30,194 --> 00:43:32,112 People resist at first. 668 00:43:32,196 --> 00:43:34,114 But I'm trying to choreograph the questions... 669 00:43:34,198 --> 00:43:36,116 so they'll be disarmed into answering. 670 00:43:36,200 --> 00:43:39,620 - How many different things have you put in there, Daddy? - It's the Kinsey stew, sweetie. 671 00:43:39,703 --> 00:43:41,622 "Clean out the refrigerator" night, you mean. 672 00:43:41,705 --> 00:43:43,624 Martin's been surprisingly helpful. 673 00:43:43,707 --> 00:43:47,628 He's an ideal practice subject, since he's had relations with both men and women. 674 00:43:47,711 --> 00:43:49,630 - Where have you been? - Swim practice. 675 00:43:49,713 --> 00:43:51,632 - How'd it go? - Pretty good. 676 00:43:51,715 --> 00:43:55,135 - Coach said he might start me at the next meet. - Bruce, that's wonderful. 677 00:43:55,219 --> 00:43:58,639 I told you there won't be any more swimming unless your science grades improve. 678 00:43:58,722 --> 00:44:00,641 I can't help it, Dad. I hate biology. 679 00:44:00,724 --> 00:44:03,060 That's because you have never developed your intellect. 680 00:44:03,185 --> 00:44:05,062 Physical activity is important, Son... 681 00:44:05,187 --> 00:44:07,064 but your interest in sports is excessive. 682 00:44:07,189 --> 00:44:10,442 Yes. Maybe he should take up engineering instead. 683 00:44:11,735 --> 00:44:15,030 The one-on-one is turning out to be so elastic. 684 00:44:15,113 --> 00:44:18,033 Talking to people yields more information than I ever imagined. 685 00:44:18,116 --> 00:44:21,036 I think it will prove to be a groundbreaking technique. 686 00:44:21,119 --> 00:44:23,580 What if they make things up? That's what I'd do. 687 00:44:23,705 --> 00:44:27,376 I'm building in little trip wires to catch lies and inconsistencies. 688 00:44:27,501 --> 00:44:31,505 - Would you like to take my sex history, Daddy? - Do you have a sex history? 689 00:44:31,630 --> 00:44:33,173 No. 690 00:44:33,257 --> 00:44:36,385 What about you, Anne? You've been dating Jim for a while now. 691 00:44:36,510 --> 00:44:38,387 We've done some petting. 692 00:44:38,512 --> 00:44:41,181 I figured we wouldn't try intercourse until college. 693 00:44:41,265 --> 00:44:43,684 That's probably better. 694 00:44:43,767 --> 00:44:46,228 If Anne can have intercourse, I should be able to too. 695 00:44:46,311 --> 00:44:49,022 Your sister's 18 and seriously involved with someone. 696 00:44:49,106 --> 00:44:50,899 Does it hurt? 697 00:44:52,192 --> 00:44:54,695 - What, dear? - Breaking the hymen. 698 00:44:56,572 --> 00:44:58,031 Oh... 699 00:44:59,658 --> 00:45:01,785 just a little... it's nothing too bad. 700 00:45:01,910 --> 00:45:05,372 It helps if you spread the vulva to facilitate penetration. 701 00:45:05,497 --> 00:45:09,293 Can we please talk about something else for once? 702 00:45:09,418 --> 00:45:12,296 Other families don't do this. It isn't normal. 703 00:45:12,421 --> 00:45:14,798 When did you become such a prig? 704 00:45:14,923 --> 00:45:18,385 My friends aren't even allowed to come over here. Their parents think you're a menace! 705 00:45:18,510 --> 00:45:22,097 You spend too much time in the water. All that chlorine's done something to your brain! 706 00:45:22,222 --> 00:45:24,933 - Have you learned nothing? - Sometimes I don't know where he came from. 707 00:45:25,017 --> 00:45:27,477 Nothing! 708 00:45:28,687 --> 00:45:30,606 Bruce? Bruce. 709 00:45:30,689 --> 00:45:33,442 I don't wanna talk about it. He won't get off my back. 710 00:45:37,321 --> 00:45:40,574 I heard about this community from a former student of mine. 711 00:45:40,657 --> 00:45:44,077 This is my third trip, and already the results have been astounding. 712 00:45:44,161 --> 00:45:47,581 By my calculation, there are over 300,000 cases here in Chicago... 713 00:45:47,664 --> 00:45:50,584 and no one's ever even bothered to talk to them before. 714 00:45:50,667 --> 00:45:54,463 It's a gold mine of information, Martin, and we've got it all to ourselves. 715 00:46:03,931 --> 00:46:05,807 What'll it be, handsome? 716 00:46:05,933 --> 00:46:07,893 Two scotches. 717 00:46:09,394 --> 00:46:12,314 I find liquor is an essential tool for social lubrication... 718 00:46:12,397 --> 00:46:16,360 although it has involved more drinking than I thought I would ever do in a lifetime. 719 00:46:18,987 --> 00:46:20,948 Let's get started. 720 00:46:22,991 --> 00:46:26,328 Hello, I'm Professor Kinsey from Indiana University... 721 00:46:26,453 --> 00:46:29,331 and I'm making a study of sex behavior. 722 00:46:29,456 --> 00:46:32,042 - Can we sit and talk? - I assume you're joking. 723 00:46:32,167 --> 00:46:34,044 No, I'm not. 724 00:46:34,169 --> 00:46:38,215 I'd be grateful if you'd answer some questions about your sexual history. 725 00:46:38,340 --> 00:46:40,217 Mary here is a professor. 726 00:46:40,342 --> 00:46:43,220 She says she wants to study my sex behavior. 727 00:46:43,345 --> 00:46:46,807 Well, tell her to stick around and watch. 728 00:46:46,932 --> 00:46:50,894 - Andy's here. You have to see what he's wearing. - I can't wait. 729 00:46:52,187 --> 00:46:53,856 That Andy. 730 00:46:53,939 --> 00:46:56,692 Hello. I'm Professor Kinsey from... 731 00:46:56,775 --> 00:46:59,194 Excuse me. I'm Professor Kinsey. 732 00:46:59,278 --> 00:47:01,363 Excuse me... Hello. 733 00:47:01,488 --> 00:47:03,740 I'm Professor Kinsey from Indiana University... 734 00:47:03,866 --> 00:47:05,826 and I'm making a study of sex behavior. 735 00:47:05,909 --> 00:47:08,996 - Can I ask you a few questions? - I've heard about you. 736 00:47:09,079 --> 00:47:11,999 - You're the sex doctor, right? - I guess I am. 737 00:47:12,082 --> 00:47:15,586 If you'd be kind enough to talk to me, it would be of great help to science. 738 00:47:16,712 --> 00:47:19,173 Sure. What do you want to know? 739 00:47:19,256 --> 00:47:22,676 Same boy. Tommy Potts. 740 00:47:22,759 --> 00:47:25,679 We were messin'around in a haystack... 741 00:47:25,762 --> 00:47:28,098 you know, the way kids'll do. 742 00:47:30,267 --> 00:47:32,227 Pop walked in... 743 00:47:34,229 --> 00:47:36,523 found us, locked us in the barn. 744 00:47:37,566 --> 00:47:40,360 Called my brothers in. 745 00:47:41,445 --> 00:47:43,447 They, um... 746 00:47:45,032 --> 00:47:46,992 They branded us. 747 00:47:55,542 --> 00:47:57,503 Took turns doin' it. 748 00:47:59,338 --> 00:48:01,590 Then they beat us raw. 749 00:48:01,673 --> 00:48:04,718 Broke a couple ribs, collarbone. 750 00:48:05,761 --> 00:48:07,721 Tommy, he, uh... 751 00:48:09,431 --> 00:48:12,392 he didn't make out as well as I did. 752 00:48:15,062 --> 00:48:18,565 - What age were you? - Thirteen. 753 00:48:18,690 --> 00:48:22,736 - And you've been on your own since then? - I get by. 754 00:48:26,490 --> 00:48:29,368 It's not that I mind being queer. 755 00:48:29,493 --> 00:48:31,703 'Cause I don't. 756 00:48:31,828 --> 00:48:34,289 It's just, um... 757 00:48:34,373 --> 00:48:37,292 I wish other folks weren't so put out by it. 758 00:48:37,376 --> 00:48:40,295 Homosexuality happens to be... 759 00:48:40,379 --> 00:48:42,631 out of fashion in society now. 760 00:48:42,714 --> 00:48:45,008 That doesn't mean it won't change someday. 761 00:48:45,133 --> 00:48:47,094 Right. 762 00:48:55,602 --> 00:48:58,480 But why didn't I see it before? 763 00:48:58,605 --> 00:49:02,025 Human beings are just bigger, slightly more complicated gall wasps. 764 00:49:02,150 --> 00:49:04,528 All I have to do is collect more than anyone else... 765 00:49:04,653 --> 00:49:07,531 and homosexuals are the perfect place to start. 766 00:49:07,656 --> 00:49:09,741 What? 767 00:49:09,867 --> 00:49:12,744 I'm sorry. I just had an image of some of our friends hearing you right now. 768 00:49:12,870 --> 00:49:15,163 As if the marriage course isn't bad enough. 769 00:49:15,289 --> 00:49:20,961 Now, Prok, promise me you'll get at least four hours sleep before heading back. 770 00:49:21,044 --> 00:49:22,796 Of course. 771 00:49:22,880 --> 00:49:24,840 And let Clyde share in the driving. 772 00:49:26,842 --> 00:49:28,719 Prok? 773 00:49:28,844 --> 00:49:30,721 Okay, Mac. 774 00:49:30,846 --> 00:49:32,723 I'll sign off now. 775 00:49:32,848 --> 00:49:35,392 I love you. 776 00:49:35,517 --> 00:49:37,477 Love you too. 777 00:49:48,280 --> 00:49:51,033 You know what impressed me tonight? 778 00:49:51,116 --> 00:49:53,035 Mmm? 779 00:49:53,118 --> 00:49:57,497 The way that you talk to people. You can get just about anybody to open up. 780 00:49:57,581 --> 00:50:00,667 Oh, well, it's just a matter of, uh... 781 00:50:00,792 --> 00:50:02,711 putting yourself on their level. 782 00:50:02,794 --> 00:50:05,047 No, it's more than that. 783 00:50:05,130 --> 00:50:07,090 You really seem to care. 784 00:50:18,769 --> 00:50:21,146 - This rating scale of yours? - Mm-hmm? 785 00:50:21,271 --> 00:50:24,149 Uh, zero to six... 786 00:50:24,274 --> 00:50:26,902 Zero being exclusively heterosexual... 787 00:50:26,985 --> 00:50:32,241 and, uh, six being exclusively homosexual. 788 00:50:32,324 --> 00:50:35,077 A great many people line up somewhere in the middle. 789 00:50:35,202 --> 00:50:38,080 - What makes you think that's true? - Common sense. 790 00:50:38,163 --> 00:50:41,458 Remember, about a third of our heterosexual histories... 791 00:50:41,583 --> 00:50:43,627 have homosexual acts, and vice versa. 792 00:50:43,752 --> 00:50:46,463 Right. 793 00:50:46,588 --> 00:50:48,966 I guess I'm about a three, huh? 794 00:50:49,091 --> 00:50:51,969 Based on your sexual history... 795 00:50:52,094 --> 00:50:55,556 I'd say that's, um, right. 796 00:50:55,681 --> 00:50:57,891 How about you? 797 00:51:00,686 --> 00:51:03,730 I suppose I've been a one or two... 798 00:51:04,940 --> 00:51:07,109 most of my life... 799 00:51:07,192 --> 00:51:09,236 even though it's taken a long time... 800 00:51:09,361 --> 00:51:12,239 to recognize it. 801 00:51:13,991 --> 00:51:16,076 And now? 802 00:51:20,747 --> 00:51:22,708 Probably... 803 00:51:25,169 --> 00:51:27,087 th-three. 804 00:51:27,171 --> 00:51:29,923 Have you ever done anything about it? 805 00:51:34,595 --> 00:51:37,181 Would you like to? 806 00:52:09,588 --> 00:52:12,508 I've taken on so many other people's secrets. 807 00:52:12,591 --> 00:52:14,551 I don't want any of my own... 808 00:52:14,676 --> 00:52:16,637 and certainly not with you. 809 00:52:18,263 --> 00:52:20,557 You still haven't said anything. 810 00:52:22,893 --> 00:52:25,521 It's not like I'm... 811 00:52:25,646 --> 00:52:28,190 surprised exactly. 812 00:52:28,315 --> 00:52:30,651 I've observed... 813 00:52:30,734 --> 00:52:32,653 certain things over the years. 814 00:52:32,736 --> 00:52:34,655 Such as? 815 00:52:34,738 --> 00:52:36,698 A look or a gesture. 816 00:52:38,825 --> 00:52:41,745 The pet student who suddenly becomes a member of the family... 817 00:52:41,870 --> 00:52:44,665 and then just as suddenly disappears when you tire ofhim. 818 00:52:44,748 --> 00:52:47,668 I think you must know me better than I know myself. 819 00:52:47,751 --> 00:52:50,379 But I'm not sure... 820 00:52:50,504 --> 00:52:52,548 I understand. 821 00:52:54,049 --> 00:52:56,927 Haven't I always been open to whatever you wanted? 822 00:52:57,052 --> 00:53:01,265 It's not you, Mac. You're the best partner any man could have. 823 00:53:01,390 --> 00:53:04,059 I'm just not enough. Is that it? 824 00:53:08,355 --> 00:53:10,190 Please, Mac. 825 00:53:10,274 --> 00:53:13,193 This is inside of me. To what extent, I don't know. 826 00:53:13,277 --> 00:53:16,905 But I'd be a hypocrite if I pretended it wasn't there. 827 00:53:16,989 --> 00:53:19,408 - When I took your history... - Don't! Don't! 828 00:53:19,491 --> 00:53:22,411 - Didn't you admit to having sexual feelings for other men? - Don't use that against me! 829 00:53:22,494 --> 00:53:25,414 I'm sorry. But what keeps you from acting on your feelings? Convention. 830 00:53:25,497 --> 00:53:29,585 No! It's our marriage! It's our children! 831 00:53:29,710 --> 00:53:32,087 Exactly. Social restraints. 832 00:53:33,797 --> 00:53:36,675 Did you ever stop to think that perhaps those restraints are there... 833 00:53:36,800 --> 00:53:38,760 to keep people from hurting each other? 834 00:53:41,096 --> 00:53:44,308 I don't sleep with other men because I love you... 835 00:53:44,433 --> 00:53:46,310 and I don't want to hurt you. 836 00:53:46,435 --> 00:53:48,395 But what if it didn't hurt me? 837 00:53:48,520 --> 00:53:50,898 Then I'd be hurt. 838 00:53:50,981 --> 00:53:54,902 You're just afraid that I won't love you anymore, which is impossible, Mac. 839 00:53:54,985 --> 00:53:58,530 The human animal is capable of all kinds of sexual expression. 840 00:53:58,655 --> 00:54:02,492 Not all sex has to be sanctioned by love, enriched by emotion. 841 00:54:02,618 --> 00:54:04,494 - To the Greeks... - Stop! 842 00:54:04,620 --> 00:54:06,788 Stop lecturing, Prok. 843 00:54:06,872 --> 00:54:09,833 Stop using science to justify what you've done. 844 00:54:12,503 --> 00:54:14,463 Oh, Mac. 845 00:54:16,256 --> 00:54:18,258 Mac. 846 00:54:18,342 --> 00:54:20,260 Listen to me. 847 00:54:20,344 --> 00:54:23,722 You're my girl. You always will be. 848 00:54:23,847 --> 00:54:26,475 The bond we have, the life we share... 849 00:54:26,600 --> 00:54:28,685 sex is nothing compared to that. 850 00:54:31,688 --> 00:54:34,608 I can't talk about this anymore. 851 00:54:56,547 --> 00:54:59,424 Most people think that what they do sexually... 852 00:54:59,550 --> 00:55:01,426 is what everyone does... 853 00:55:01,552 --> 00:55:03,345 or should do. 854 00:55:03,470 --> 00:55:07,641 But I might remark that nearly all the so-called sexual perversions... 855 00:55:07,724 --> 00:55:11,103 fall within the range ofbiologic normality. 856 00:55:11,186 --> 00:55:14,022 For example, masturbation... 857 00:55:14,147 --> 00:55:17,359 mouth-genital contacts and homosexual acts... 858 00:55:17,484 --> 00:55:19,695 are common among most mammals... 859 00:55:19,778 --> 00:55:21,864 including humans. 860 00:55:21,989 --> 00:55:25,868 Society might condemn such practices on moral grounds. 861 00:55:25,993 --> 00:55:29,454 However, it's ludicrous to call them unnatural. 862 00:55:30,914 --> 00:55:32,833 But based on the first Book of Genesis... 863 00:55:32,916 --> 00:55:35,002 and according to public opinion... 864 00:55:35,127 --> 00:55:38,422 there's only one correct sexual equation... 865 00:55:38,547 --> 00:55:40,924 man plus woman equals baby. 866 00:55:41,049 --> 00:55:43,260 Everything else is vice. 867 00:55:43,385 --> 00:55:46,763 But the orgasm record of the males in this classroom alone... 868 00:55:46,889 --> 00:55:49,766 proves the ineffectiveness of social restrictions... 869 00:55:49,892 --> 00:55:53,228 and the imperativeness of the biologic demand. 870 00:55:58,775 --> 00:56:00,694 Why are some cows highly sexed... 871 00:56:00,777 --> 00:56:02,696 while others just stand there? 872 00:56:04,948 --> 00:56:07,868 Why do some men need 30 orgasms a week... 873 00:56:07,951 --> 00:56:10,078 and others almost none? 874 00:56:13,957 --> 00:56:16,585 Because everyone is different. 875 00:56:18,003 --> 00:56:21,215 The problem is, most people want to be the same. 876 00:56:23,008 --> 00:56:25,427 They find it easier to simply ignore... 877 00:56:25,511 --> 00:56:28,555 this fundamental aspect of the human condition. 878 00:56:30,307 --> 00:56:33,268 They're so eager to be part of the group... 879 00:56:33,352 --> 00:56:36,897 that they'll betray their own nature to get there. 880 00:56:38,565 --> 00:56:42,444 If something pleasurable and strongly desired is prohibited... 881 00:56:42,569 --> 00:56:44,988 it becomes an obsession. 882 00:56:47,658 --> 00:56:49,618 Think about this. 883 00:57:04,925 --> 00:57:06,802 You have better things to do... 884 00:57:06,927 --> 00:57:09,805 than help a middle-aged woman home with her groceries. 885 00:57:09,930 --> 00:57:12,808 Prok got worried when he couldn't reach you. 886 00:57:12,933 --> 00:57:15,811 Said he had to take histories later this evening... 887 00:57:15,936 --> 00:57:18,063 so he'd like an early dinner. 888 00:57:18,188 --> 00:57:20,065 - Hmph. - Preferably 5:00. 889 00:57:20,190 --> 00:57:22,568 Hardly gives me time to boil an egg. 890 00:57:22,693 --> 00:57:24,570 - Can I help? - No. I'll manage. 891 00:57:24,695 --> 00:57:27,573 I just... I'm sorry he made you play messenger. 892 00:57:27,698 --> 00:57:29,825 No. I volunteered. 893 00:57:32,077 --> 00:57:33,996 Mmm. 894 00:57:37,207 --> 00:57:39,084 Hear that? 895 00:57:39,209 --> 00:57:41,795 - What? - The sound of an empty nest. 896 00:57:45,340 --> 00:57:48,302 Must be a big adjustment. Have you heard from Bruce yet? 897 00:57:48,385 --> 00:57:50,679 No. He's loving college. 898 00:57:50,804 --> 00:57:53,015 Maybe it's just being away from here. 899 00:57:53,098 --> 00:57:56,059 - Oh. - Would you like a piece of pie? 900 00:57:56,185 --> 00:57:58,645 - Rhubarb? - Have a seat. 901 00:58:04,401 --> 00:58:07,863 You know, Clyde, I didn't like you very much at first. 902 00:58:09,031 --> 00:58:10,991 I don't blame you. 903 00:58:11,116 --> 00:58:14,912 - Most women would have had me murdered. - Oh, I considered it. 904 00:58:15,037 --> 00:58:17,164 I hate to think of myself as conventional. 905 00:58:18,373 --> 00:58:21,251 But if this had to happen... 906 00:58:23,045 --> 00:58:25,506 I'm glad it was you. 907 00:58:25,631 --> 00:58:29,384 And I... have to admit there have been some benefits. 908 00:58:30,844 --> 00:58:34,348 It certainly sparked things up sexually. 909 00:58:34,431 --> 00:58:37,226 I suppose we'd both grown bored without even realizing it. 910 00:58:39,102 --> 00:58:41,021 I think you've handled it remarkably well. 911 00:58:42,189 --> 00:58:44,149 I learned something a long time ago. 912 00:58:44,274 --> 00:58:46,944 Once Prok has his mind set, it's no use trying to stop him. 913 00:58:48,111 --> 00:58:50,197 Yes. 914 00:58:50,280 --> 00:58:52,241 He is... 915 00:58:53,408 --> 00:58:55,911 relentless. 916 00:58:58,247 --> 00:59:00,123 Clyde? 917 00:59:02,292 --> 00:59:06,463 You know, this thing between Prok and me... 918 00:59:07,673 --> 00:59:10,133 it was fine for a while, but... 919 00:59:11,552 --> 00:59:14,429 I guess I just really miss sleeping with women.