1 00:00:03,000 --> 00:00:06,000 We met early saturday morning 2 00:00:07,269 --> 00:00:14,269 Our cameraman explained his camera to Klaus Kinski who film his wife. He was in a good mood. 3 00:00:16,875 --> 00:00:18,075 Then the interview began. 4 00:00:18,980 --> 00:00:22,980 Mr. Kinski you are on tour now with an curious title for your program. 5 00:00:23,841 --> 00:00:26,841 Could you give us a short sample of your program? 6 00:00:28,657 --> 00:00:31,657 No, no... but I don't know what you mean by 'curious title'. 7 00:00:32,722 --> 00:00:34,222 - Please tell us about it yourself. 8 00:00:34,922 --> 00:00:39,922 What am I supposed to tell you about it? Why is it a curious title? 9 00:00:42,511 --> 00:00:45,211 The tour is called Jesus Christ what's so curious about it? 10 00:00:45,617 --> 00:00:48,817 - The name Klaus Kinski in this combination sounds curious to me. 11 00:00:49,288 --> 00:00:50,288 Why? 12 00:00:51,025 --> 00:00:53,025 - Never heard something like this before. 13 00:00:53,392 --> 00:00:57,092 No... yes, not heard it, I don't care, but what do you mean by curious? 14 00:00:57,695 --> 00:01:01,695 - Don't focus so much on the word curious, you were always the negative hero. Jesus Christ was... 15 00:01:02,146 --> 00:01:06,346 I was never a hero and never negative. I did some crap movies that's all. 16 00:01:06,888 --> 00:01:11,888 Some better, some worse... Those words mean nothing to me. 17 00:01:13,090 --> 00:01:14,190 I don't know how to answer you. 18 00:01:15,074 --> 00:01:20,074 Because if you'd ask me why I, or like you said me of all people, 19 00:01:21,780 --> 00:01:25,380 do the new testament on stage the way I interpret it... 20 00:01:25,510 --> 00:01:31,310 which has few things in common with the original... 21 00:01:32,624 --> 00:01:39,624 then I can only answer... with a quote from the new testament where Jesus says: 22 00:01:40,380 --> 00:01:50,580 Even whores and convicts are better than some god-fearing citizen who can't forgive. 23 00:01:51,430 --> 00:01:56,430 I never killed someone for example. 24 00:01:57,633 --> 00:02:00,433 I just did some negative movies or whatever you said. 25 00:02:01,416 --> 00:02:06,416 So I did some movies. What... what do you want to deduce from that? 26 00:02:06,918 --> 00:02:09,018 - You say... I don't understand what you're trying to prove... 27 00:02:09,308 --> 00:02:14,308 I did something different before, so what, who says I won't continue with what I'm doing now? 28 00:02:14,511 --> 00:02:18,311 - Personally I don't object to it. No, no, it's not against you... 29 00:02:18,463 --> 00:02:20,963 - But another question... ...these are meaningless questions... 30 00:02:21,198 --> 00:02:23,198 ... important is that I'm doing it. It's not important who's doing it... 31 00:02:23,382 --> 00:02:28,482 but that somebody's doing it. Thank god there are more and more doing it. 32 00:02:28,606 --> 00:02:35,306 - Yes, the Jesus movement... And I realized that this strength I have... 33 00:02:36,187 --> 00:02:42,187 has been wasted for some stupid producers I did stupid movies for. 34 00:02:42,389 --> 00:02:44,389 That's all, so what do you want from me? 35 00:02:45,137 --> 00:02:50,137 I finally realized, thank god, what I have to do. 36 00:02:51,141 --> 00:02:54,741 The idea is not new... - What do you want to achieve? 37 00:02:55,379 --> 00:02:59,379 - Are you doing it for yourself? For me, for you, for everyone. 38 00:02:59,980 --> 00:03:04,980 - How do I benefit from your show? ...why do people run away from home... 39 00:03:05,273 --> 00:03:09,273 ...live in parks, so called hippies. Why do they do it? For whom? 40 00:03:09,447 --> 00:03:14,147 For themselves and the others they're together with. For what they realized. 41 00:03:14,215 --> 00:03:16,415 - What did you realize? 42 00:03:16,510 --> 00:03:21,510 That you can't live on like this. 43 00:03:21,914 --> 00:03:28,914 - Aren't you just riding the popular wave of the Jesus movement? That's utter nonsense. 44 00:03:29,675 --> 00:03:34,675 Because I already had this idea 20 years ago. 45 00:03:35,985 --> 00:03:40,985 When I was 6 years old I received my only praise... 46 00:03:44,551 --> 00:03:46,851 ... usually I got punished in school... 47 00:03:47,010 --> 00:03:50,010 ... I got praised because I learnt the new testament by heart... 48 00:03:50,200 --> 00:03:55,043 ... I didn't really understand it but I was just good at learning texts by heart. 49 00:03:55,807 --> 00:04:00,107 But accusing me of riding a popular wave is just plain stupid... 50 00:04:00,474 --> 00:04:05,474 ... it was already in the papers 12 years ago that I'm going to interpret the new testament... 51 00:04:07,486 --> 00:04:11,486 ... and already 12 years ago people were annoying me because of that... 52 00:04:11,595 --> 00:04:16,595 ... and what do you mean by 'riding the popular wave'? I'm a good rider but on a horse. - The popular Jesus movement. 53 00:04:17,069 --> 00:04:22,069 So what, it's good to have such a movement. But I didn't start it. I'm just one of a million... 54 00:04:22,316 --> 00:04:27,316 ... throughout history who is responsible for it. 55 00:04:27,557 --> 00:04:33,055 This is the only real revolution going on today. 56 00:04:33,970 --> 00:04:38,970 - Before you said that it has nothing in common with the new testament. 57 00:04:40,029 --> 00:04:45,029 I didn't say that. I said the new testament how I... 58 00:04:49,061 --> 00:04:53,061 ... how do it put it more precisely to prevent misconception... 59 00:04:53,124 --> 00:04:58,124 ... how I define it. How I see it... 60 00:04:58,948 --> 00:05:03,948 ... how I see what Jesus said, or may have said if Jesus existed, 61 00:05:04,800 --> 00:05:07,900 of cause he existed, a thousand, a million times did he exist, 62 00:05:08,071 --> 00:05:13,071 maybe not exactly like it is written in the bible, but of cause this man existed. 63 00:05:13,790 --> 00:05:18,790 To put it like this has nothing to do... 64 00:05:20,005 --> 00:05:22,800 with how the church interprets the new testament... 65 00:05:22,975 --> 00:05:27,975 because the church distorts it... distorts it with murderous intent... 66 00:05:28,504 --> 00:05:35,504 because the church, as everyone knows, did interpret it to fit their intentions... 67 00:05:41,418 --> 00:05:46,418 ... in the most significant cases. If you want I can give one single example... 68 00:05:47,329 --> 00:05:52,329 though it's stupid to ask me of all people about it because you could ask everyone in the world about it... 69 00:05:53,653 --> 00:05:57,453 just take one example, one of a million cases... 70 00:05:57,537 --> 00:06:02,537 take... take... 71 00:06:05,732 --> 00:06:10,732 ... what's his name... - Take your time, in the meantime may I ask your wife... 72 00:06:12,041 --> 00:06:17,041 You can't just interrupt me, do you want me to answer or not? 73 00:06:17,699 --> 00:06:21,599 What do you mean take your time? I'm not stupid. 74 00:06:21,630 --> 00:06:25,430 I think your questions are meaningless not my answers. 75 00:06:25,578 --> 00:06:29,878 And you can broadcast that as I said it. - Ok, I agree. I mean... 76 00:06:30,299 --> 00:06:34,999 So don't interrupt me or I'll go home. 77 00:06:35,101 --> 00:06:40,101 - Please, the word is yours. 78 00:06:43,550 --> 00:06:49,950 I can't... you ask stupid questions and don't know 79 00:06:50,382 --> 00:06:55,182 that you should give yourself the answers you want from me. 80 00:06:55,269 --> 00:06:59,469 For example you ask why I interpret the new testament. 81 00:06:59,573 --> 00:07:05,573 Only an ignorant or someone who's evil could ask a question like this. 82 00:07:06,069 --> 00:07:08,769 - You think I'm evil? No! I just... 83 00:07:08,893 --> 00:07:13,893 how could someone ask why I interpret the new testament? Only idiots could ask this. 84 00:07:14,069 --> 00:07:21,069 Don't you see that in the USA, in the whole world, millions of people want exactly that? 85 00:07:21,508 --> 00:07:27,908 How could you ask that? Only to use me, to say me of all people... 86 00:07:28,515 --> 00:07:33,515 or why do you make this interview? Why? 87 00:07:34,077 --> 00:07:39,077 Because you're interested in my show or because you want to find out some peculiarities? 88 00:07:39,521 --> 00:07:43,121 - Is this now about... It's about everything! 89 00:07:43,287 --> 00:07:48,287 Beat it, I don't give a shit. If you're not capable of asking... 90 00:07:48,339 --> 00:07:53,839 the right questions or know how to listen to me we can just forget about the interview. 91 00:07:54,468 --> 00:07:59,268 You have no right of interrupting me when I'm talking. Did you understand that or not? 92 00:07:59,280 --> 00:08:02,920 I don't talk for you but for the millions of viewers of this. 93 00:08:03,075 --> 00:08:09,075 Or listen closely... do you listen now, don't ever interrupt me again or I'll go home.- That would be the best. 94 00:08:12,991 --> 00:08:15,991 A bunch of idiots! 95 00:08:17,820 --> 00:08:23,820 Some smart-ass interviewer trying to provoke me for her interview. 96 00:08:25,587 --> 00:08:31,587 Come to my show and listen to what I've got to say so you don't need to ask stupid questions. 97 00:08:32,718 --> 00:08:36,718 I'm 45 years old, I don't have to take shit from such an illiterate. 98 00:08:37,229 --> 00:08:40,229 Translated and ripped by G�TTERSTURM