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♪ Oh, I love to hear
the song of creation ♪

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♪ The wind and the
rhythm of the rain ♪

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♪ Oh, the thunder, it
speaks of your power ♪

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♪ But there's something
in the sound of the saints ♪

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♪ I've been washed in
the roar of the ocean ♪

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♪ Found peace in
the echoes of a cave ♪

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♪ And the trees of the
field, they clap their hands ♪

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♪ But there's something
in the sound of the saints ♪

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♪ From the lips of
those you saved ♪

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♪ A redemption song will rise ♪

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♪ With a sound so
full it cracks the sky ♪

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♪ Whoa, we sing hallelujah ♪

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♪ Whoa, we sing amen ♪

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♪ Hear the sound of the
saints as we march onto Zion ♪

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♪ Singing hallelujah, amen ♪

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♪ Singing hallelujah, amen ♪

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♪ I will hear the
chorus of the angels ♪

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♪ A forever symphony of praise ♪

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♪ I long to hear the
voice of my Savior ♪

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♪ And he hears us the
sound of the saints ♪

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♪ From the lips of
those you saved ♪

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♪ A redemption song will rise ♪

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♪ Every tongue, every tribe
hear the church, your bride ♪

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♪ Whoa, we sing hallelujah ♪

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Oh, I'm running late, oh.

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♪ Whoa, we sing amen ♪

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♪ Hear the sound
of the saints ♪-

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♪ As we march onto Zion ♪

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♪ Singing hallelujah, amen ♪

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♪ Singing hallelujah, amen ♪

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♪ Whoa, whoa ♪

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♪ Our hearts will rise ♪

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♪ Our song shall be ♪

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♪ Jesus Christ, our
Savior King forever ♪

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♪ Our hearts will rise ♪

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♪ The saints will sing ♪

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♪ Of Jesus Christ,
our Savior King ♪

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♪ Forever, forever ♪

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♪ Whoa, we sing hallelujah ♪

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♪ Whoa, we sing amen ♪

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♪ Hear the sound of the
saints as we march onto Zion ♪

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♪ Singing hallelujah, amen ♪

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♪ Hallelujah, amen ♪

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Brooke, we're all upset,
but we need to move on.

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Honey, you're a junior now.

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It's your make-or-break year,

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so there's no
room for self-pity.

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Can you give Marlene
and I a ride to school today?

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I'm sorry, honey,
I don't have time.

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I have an 8:30 with Marc
Shelley at White & Wolfe.

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What?! Richard, you
didn't say anything!

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How did you get the meeting?

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It's just a meeting, so
don't get too excited.

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But it could be huge.

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I know!

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Who's going to the
meeting with you?

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Hey, I got the meeting.

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I know, I just think maybe you
should take Melinda or Janice.

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Janice? You want
me to take Janice?

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- Yeah, why not?
- I'm not taking Janice.

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- Rough morning?
- You know my parents.

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Maybe they just
need a little more time.

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I don't know about that.

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I'd say they're pretty over it.

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My mom's making tacos tonight.

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I'll let her know you're coming.

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It's not like they'll miss me.

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Brooke, I'm serious, honey.

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You need to get
focused or you could say,

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"Good-bye Stanford,
hello Somewhere State."

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Got it.

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Yikes.

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Good morning!

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Morning, Grace.

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I keep telling you, you
don't have to keep doing this.

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Are you kidding?

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This is the best part
of my day, Gramps.

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Pills first.

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You're a good girl.

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Ah, honey, you know I'm not
gonna be around here forever,

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and you might wanna start
thinking about some other guy

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you wanna have breakfast with.

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I'll work on that.

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Okay.

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You know, I love the
way you do the oatmeal,

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but what do you say

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I take you out for bacon and
eggs this morning, my treat.

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Not after your last
cholesterol test.

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Besides, I have some
papers I have to grade

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before the staff meeting.

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I'm 81 years old,

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and bacon is not
gonna be what kills me.

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Nice try, you're 82.

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Yeah.

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Good morning.

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Have a nice day.

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Morning, ladies.

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Morning.

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Good morning.

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Hey, what do you call a
teacher with no students?

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Unemployed.

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I got it, how about ecstatic?

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You're both right. Retired!

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Only 36 days to go!

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You know you're
gonna miss the kids

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when you're gone, Rizzo.

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No, Grace. That's
sweet, but no, I won't.

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The older I get,

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the more difficult these
kids are to deal with.

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I totally agree.

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Yesterday, I just about
snatched at Tim Webster.

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That boy had me
on my last nerve.

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Well, I happen to think
that difficult students

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can be a blessing.

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Grace, honey, when is this
optimism ever gonna wear off?

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Bill. Bill.

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Bill.

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Junk mail.

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Oh, man!

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David, why are
you always so sad?

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Hey! You're back!

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Why are you back?

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My pastor gave me permission

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to finish my
doctorate at Hadleigh,

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so if that's okay with you,
I'm gonna be here for awhile.

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Oh, David, you are a mess.

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What happened to you?

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I woke up.

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Okay, for 500 points,

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for all the cheese,
for the game.

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This quote is from
what document?

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"We hold these truths
to be self-evident,

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"that all men are created equal,

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"that they are endowed
by their Creator

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with certain unalienable
rights, that among these..."

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Boom, baby!

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All right, Team 1,
what's your answer?

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Our answer is the
Declaration of Independence.

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That's... correct!

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Team 1 wins!

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Yes!

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Okay, you guys,

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Monday we will examine the
assertion of individual rights

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through the last century.

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Have a good weekend.

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Brooke, are you okay?

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I'm fine.

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Are you sure?

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Yeah, thanks.

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Ms. Ryan?

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I lied.

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Are you sure you're being fair?

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Trust me, they're over it,

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and they expect
me to be over it, too.

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It's like to them, he
never even existed.

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The only thing
that I know for sure

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is that I'm never going
to see my brother again.

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Everybody's asked if there's
anything that they can do.

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The truth is, no
one can do anything

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because the only
thing that I really want

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is 5 more minutes
to tell my brother

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how I really felt about him.

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Did your brother believe
there was something more?

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I don't know.

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Do you?

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Brooke, every person
reaches a point in their life

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when they ask
themselves this question.

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There's nothing wrong
with you asking it, too.

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You never let
anything get to you.

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How do you do that?

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Jesus.

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Hello?

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How'd it go, Amy?

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Michael.

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It's gone.

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My cancer's... it's gone.

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Oh, my goodness!

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That's incredible!

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I know. I just...
I can't believe it.

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Isn't that what you prayed for?

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Yes, of course. I just...

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Prayer is a powerful thing,

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and it turns out God has
much bigger plans for you.

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You okay, Grace?

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Yeah, I just can't stop
thinking about Brooke.

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You know, she's searching.

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She's hurting.

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Yeah, that's the
thing about atheism.

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It doesn't take away the pain;
it just takes away the hope.

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What'd you tell her?

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The truth.

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Now she's free to
make her own choice.

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Unfortunately, in
this day and age,

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people seem to forget that
the most basic human right of all

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is a right to know Jesus.

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Let's put her on
the prayer list.

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Prayer always seems
to be the last thing we do,

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when it should be the first.

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Now, how 'bout
some more popcorn?

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With a glycemic index
of 100, not a chance.

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I swear, Grace, if you
don't start feeding me better,

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I'm gonna leave you
for a nursing home.

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Well, that's it for me.

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I'm going to bed.

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Love ya.

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I love you better.

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Love you first.

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That's unfair.

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Gotcha!

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Brooke, the people from
that charity place are here

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to pick up your
brother's things.

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Can you make sure
they get everything?

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And don't forget to
put the milk away!

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♪♪♪

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♪♪♪

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♪♪♪

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- Well, that's the last of it.
- Thank you.

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And, well, I was loading one
of the boxes onto the truck,

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I noticed this and I thought
you might wanna keep it.

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So sorry for your loss.

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♪♪♪

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♪♪♪

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And so, peaceful nonviolence

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comes first in
India under Gandhi,

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and then later, here in the
United States under Dr. King

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and others as a means
of achieving civil rights.

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But what makes
nonviolence so radical

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is its unwavering commitment
to a nonviolent approach,

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not just initially, but in the
face of escalating persecution

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by the opposing force.

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Yes?

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Isn't that sort of like
what Jesus meant

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when he said that we
should love our enemies?

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Yes.

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The writer of the
Gospel of Matthew

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records Jesus as saying,
"You have heard it said,

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"love your neighbor
and hate your enemy,

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"but I tell you,
love your enemies

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"and pray for those
who persecute you,

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that you will be children
of your Father in heaven,"

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which indicates a
commitment to nonviolence.

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Dr. King confirmed the link,

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describing his
inspiration from Scripture,

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saying Christ furnished
the spirit and motivation,

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while Gandhi
furnished the method.

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Except that that didn't work.

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Jesus got himself killed
and everybody knows that.

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Well, so did Dr. King.

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So, I guess it just depends
on how you measure success.

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Both men created movements
that survive to this day,

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even though both
paid the ultimate price

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for their commitment
to their ideals.

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I still wouldn't do it.

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Well,

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not very many people
have that kind of courage.

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But I, for one, am
grateful for those that do,

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you know, those who stand
up for what they believe.

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Have a good day.

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♪♪♪

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Are you Pastor Dave?

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I am.

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00:16:34,227 --> 00:16:37,061
- I'm Martin Yip.
- Nice to meet you.

263
00:16:37,163 --> 00:16:39,291
My friend Josh Wheaton
said you might be able

264
00:16:39,432 --> 00:16:41,867
to answer my
questions about God.

265
00:16:42,001 --> 00:16:45,028
Well, that definitely falls
within my job description.

266
00:16:47,673 --> 00:16:48,971
How many questions have you got?

267
00:16:49,108 --> 00:16:53,603
So far, 147.

268
00:16:53,713 --> 00:16:55,238
Is something wrong?

269
00:16:55,348 --> 00:16:56,646
No.

270
00:16:56,749 --> 00:16:58,160
Josh encouraged
me to write them down

271
00:16:58,184 --> 00:16:59,584
and be as comprehensive
as possible.

272
00:16:59,652 --> 00:17:01,177
Of course he did.

273
00:17:01,320 --> 00:17:03,131
Well, I'll have to thank
him next time I see him.

274
00:17:03,155 --> 00:17:04,350
Come on.

275
00:17:04,490 --> 00:17:05,730
So, what's your first question?

276
00:17:07,693 --> 00:17:11,528
Grace, I just have
to hear it from you.

277
00:17:11,664 --> 00:17:13,394
Did this happen?

278
00:17:13,533 --> 00:17:14,933
If you're asking
whether I responded

279
00:17:14,967 --> 00:17:17,801
to a student's question, yes.

280
00:17:17,904 --> 00:17:21,204
If you're asking whether
her question and my answer

281
00:17:21,340 --> 00:17:23,832
both referenced Jesus as it
was relevant to the history lesson

282
00:17:23,976 --> 00:17:28,744
we were discussing,
again, I'd have to say yes.

283
00:17:31,851 --> 00:17:34,286
Good afternoon, Ms. Wesley.

284
00:17:38,224 --> 00:17:40,420
I've asked Bob
Fessler to sit in,

285
00:17:40,560 --> 00:17:42,188
he's the school's attorney,

286
00:17:42,295 --> 00:17:47,233
to advise us on any legal issues
we might be brushing up against.

287
00:17:47,366 --> 00:17:48,834
Should I have a lawyer, too?

288
00:17:48,935 --> 00:17:50,733
No, I don't see
the need for that.

289
00:17:50,870 --> 00:17:55,899
Ms. Rizzo is present as
your union representation.

290
00:17:56,042 --> 00:17:57,635
Okay.

291
00:17:57,743 --> 00:18:00,611
We are here to hear
your side of the story.

292
00:18:00,746 --> 00:18:06,185
Now, I understand a student in
your second period history class

293
00:18:06,285 --> 00:18:07,685
asked a question
about the parallels

294
00:18:07,753 --> 00:18:10,313
between the teachings of Gandhi

295
00:18:10,423 --> 00:18:13,825
and remarks allegedly
made by Jesus.

296
00:18:13,926 --> 00:18:15,952
Yes, that's correct.

297
00:18:16,095 --> 00:18:20,430
And your answer incorporated
specific detailed reference

298
00:18:20,566 --> 00:18:24,697
to those teachings that
included Scripture itself,

299
00:18:24,804 --> 00:18:28,002
the words of Jesus.

300
00:18:28,107 --> 00:18:29,905
Yes.

301
00:18:30,009 --> 00:18:31,910
What were you thinking, Grace?

302
00:18:32,044 --> 00:18:35,014
Do you believe your
response was in line

303
00:18:35,114 --> 00:18:37,140
with district policy?

304
00:18:37,283 --> 00:18:39,081
Yes.

305
00:18:39,218 --> 00:18:40,529
As well as in compliance

306
00:18:40,553 --> 00:18:44,217
with state and
federal guidelines?

307
00:18:44,323 --> 00:18:46,087
Yes, sir.

308
00:18:46,192 --> 00:18:51,495
Well, Ms. Wesley,
unfortunately for you,

309
00:18:51,631 --> 00:18:57,093
I'm fairly certain the
school board will disagree.

310
00:18:59,572 --> 00:19:01,768
No, Coach, you're
not hearing me.

311
00:19:01,874 --> 00:19:04,469
No prayers.

312
00:19:04,610 --> 00:19:07,341
No moments of silence. Nothing.

313
00:19:07,480 --> 00:19:09,415
It's tradition on the field.

314
00:19:09,515 --> 00:19:11,814
Not on the field, not
in the locker room,

315
00:19:11,951 --> 00:19:13,495
not in the parking lot
for that matter, okay?

316
00:19:13,519 --> 00:19:14,418
Whatever you say.

317
00:19:14,520 --> 00:19:15,647
Okay, thanks, Coach.

318
00:19:15,788 --> 00:19:17,154
Come on in.

319
00:19:17,289 --> 00:19:18,587
Hi, Brooke.

320
00:19:18,691 --> 00:19:20,717
You wanted to see me?

321
00:19:20,826 --> 00:19:24,228
Ms. Wesley is currently
under disciplinary review.

322
00:19:24,330 --> 00:19:25,807
All of her classes
have been reassigned

323
00:19:25,831 --> 00:19:27,527
until things are settled.

324
00:19:27,667 --> 00:19:29,602
I don't want you to have
any contact with her.

325
00:19:29,702 --> 00:19:32,729
None whatsoever, either
on or off school property.

326
00:19:32,838 --> 00:19:34,636
Do I have any say in this?

327
00:19:34,740 --> 00:19:37,300
No, I've already discussed
things with your father

328
00:19:37,410 --> 00:19:39,402
and he agrees.

329
00:19:39,512 --> 00:19:42,482
Since when does my dad care?

330
00:19:42,615 --> 00:19:44,455
Brooke, the important
thing for you to remember

331
00:19:44,483 --> 00:19:45,494
is you've done nothing wrong.

332
00:19:45,518 --> 00:19:46,611
Neither did Ms. Wesley.

333
00:19:46,719 --> 00:19:48,278
All she did was
answer a question.

334
00:19:48,387 --> 00:19:49,998
Ms. Wesley's answer was
not in line with school policy.

335
00:19:50,022 --> 00:19:51,513
Really?

336
00:19:51,657 --> 00:19:53,468
I mean, aren't we allowed
to say what we believe?

337
00:19:53,492 --> 00:19:54,516
When did that change?

338
00:19:54,660 --> 00:19:56,356
I'm not gonna argue with you,

339
00:19:56,495 --> 00:19:58,473
and I don't want you discussing
the situation with anyone.

340
00:19:58,497 --> 00:19:59,863
Do you understand?

341
00:20:00,933 --> 00:20:02,925
Do you understand?

342
00:20:05,705 --> 00:20:08,607
Yes.

343
00:20:22,321 --> 00:20:24,051
Grace?

344
00:20:24,190 --> 00:20:25,488
Are you...

345
00:20:25,591 --> 00:20:28,186
Tom Endler, your
union-appointed attorney.

346
00:20:28,294 --> 00:20:29,785
You don't look like a lawyer.

347
00:20:29,895 --> 00:20:31,488
Thank you.

348
00:20:31,597 --> 00:20:33,463
I'm not sure I meant
that as a compliment.

349
00:20:33,566 --> 00:20:35,057
I'm determined
to take it as one.

350
00:20:35,201 --> 00:20:38,035
Shall we sit?

351
00:20:40,206 --> 00:20:42,641
So, have you
defended many teachers

352
00:20:42,742 --> 00:20:44,438
in disciplinary matters?

353
00:20:44,577 --> 00:20:46,170
Nope, you're my first.

354
00:20:46,278 --> 00:20:48,509
Just hired on from the
public defender's office.

355
00:20:48,614 --> 00:20:50,139
Criminal law?

356
00:20:50,249 --> 00:20:52,218
No offense, but
I'm not a criminal.

357
00:20:52,351 --> 00:20:53,649
Don't be so sure of that.

358
00:20:53,753 --> 00:20:55,722
Your kind of case makes
everybody uncomfortable.

359
00:20:55,821 --> 00:20:58,222
School boards,
teachers, parents.

360
00:20:58,357 --> 00:21:01,191
It makes them feel... yucky.

361
00:21:01,293 --> 00:21:02,591
Yucky?

362
00:21:02,728 --> 00:21:05,357
Is that a technical legal term?

363
00:21:05,464 --> 00:21:07,456
You got a better word for it?

364
00:21:07,600 --> 00:21:10,035
Grace, I'm gonna level with you.

365
00:21:10,136 --> 00:21:11,695
Nobody wants your case.

366
00:21:11,804 --> 00:21:14,000
I drew it because I'm
low man on the totem pole

367
00:21:14,106 --> 00:21:15,972
in a place where
seniority means everything.

368
00:21:16,108 --> 00:21:19,135
If, for whatever reason,
you're not happy with me,

369
00:21:19,278 --> 00:21:20,974
you're on your own.

370
00:21:21,113 --> 00:21:24,413
You're free to hire your own
attorney out of your own pocket.

371
00:21:24,517 --> 00:21:27,885
Educational law isn't
exactly a common specialty.

372
00:21:27,987 --> 00:21:29,979
So, what's the good news?

373
00:21:30,122 --> 00:21:32,023
I don't like to lose.

374
00:21:32,124 --> 00:21:35,526
And I'm willing
to fight for you.

375
00:21:35,628 --> 00:21:37,153
Are you a believer?

376
00:21:37,296 --> 00:21:39,788
You mean a Christian?

377
00:21:39,932 --> 00:21:42,163
No, but I think
that's an advantage.

378
00:21:42,301 --> 00:21:43,769
Why?

379
00:21:43,869 --> 00:21:45,046
You're passionate
about what you believe.

380
00:21:45,070 --> 00:21:46,663
I mean, let's face it,

381
00:21:46,806 --> 00:21:48,606
it's why you're in
trouble in the first place.

382
00:21:48,641 --> 00:21:53,341
But it blinds you to the
realities of procedure.

383
00:21:55,447 --> 00:21:57,712
Okay.

384
00:21:57,817 --> 00:21:59,115
Okay, what?

385
00:21:59,218 --> 00:22:01,449
Okay, I agree to let
you represent me.

386
00:22:01,554 --> 00:22:04,547
- Good.
- Good.

387
00:22:10,062 --> 00:22:11,963
David, are you okay?

388
00:22:12,097 --> 00:22:14,089
Um, terrific.

389
00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:17,261
There was a young
man in here, brilliant kid,

390
00:22:17,369 --> 00:22:21,306
with no exposure to Scripture
until a few months ago.

391
00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:24,774
He came in with some questions.

392
00:22:24,877 --> 00:22:28,314
147 of 'em to be exact.

393
00:22:28,447 --> 00:22:31,940
I feel like I've been hit by
a truck loaded with Bibles.

394
00:22:32,051 --> 00:22:35,351
Big heavy ones with
those thick covers.

395
00:22:37,723 --> 00:22:40,124
Always be ready to give
answer as to why you believe

396
00:22:40,226 --> 00:22:43,458
and the reason for your hope.

397
00:22:43,562 --> 00:22:46,828
1 Peter chapter 3, verse 15.

398
00:22:46,932 --> 00:22:48,298
Yes.

399
00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:51,268
And where were you 4 hours ago?

400
00:22:53,239 --> 00:22:55,708
"Trust in the Lord
with all your heart

401
00:22:55,841 --> 00:22:59,039
"and lean not on your
own understanding.

402
00:22:59,178 --> 00:23:01,647
"In all your ways,
acknowledge him

403
00:23:01,747 --> 00:23:05,741
and he will make
your paths straight."

404
00:23:15,761 --> 00:23:19,027
Father, I need you.

405
00:23:19,164 --> 00:23:24,569
I can't do this alone.

406
00:23:24,703 --> 00:23:29,971
I know that you're in control.

407
00:23:30,075 --> 00:23:34,672
Please, give me the courage.

408
00:23:37,783 --> 00:23:42,244
In Jesus' name, amen.

409
00:23:49,295 --> 00:23:51,890
Call to order.

410
00:23:52,031 --> 00:23:55,092
I assume Ms. Wesley understands
that this board has the power

411
00:23:55,234 --> 00:23:58,227
to recommend any number
of disciplinary actions,

412
00:23:58,370 --> 00:24:00,999
up to and including termination.

413
00:24:01,106 --> 00:24:02,574
She does.

414
00:24:02,708 --> 00:24:04,386
And this board should
be aware that in the event

415
00:24:04,410 --> 00:24:06,038
of such termination,

416
00:24:06,145 --> 00:24:08,307
which we would view as both
wrongful and without cause,

417
00:24:08,447 --> 00:24:09,938
she reserves all
rights of redress.

418
00:24:10,082 --> 00:24:12,381
I may have a solution.

419
00:24:12,484 --> 00:24:16,080
There might be a way around
all of this unpleasantness

420
00:24:16,221 --> 00:24:18,417
that would satisfy all parties.

421
00:24:18,557 --> 00:24:22,426
A disciplinary notice
in Ms. Wesley's file

422
00:24:22,561 --> 00:24:26,965
stating the school board's
objections to her behavior,

423
00:24:27,099 --> 00:24:29,898
a response from Ms. Wesley

424
00:24:30,002 --> 00:24:32,733
confessing the
inappropriateness of

425
00:24:32,838 --> 00:24:36,297
and apologizing for her actions,

426
00:24:36,442 --> 00:24:39,139
along with a pledge
not to engage

427
00:24:39,278 --> 00:24:44,239
in similar discussion
of Jesus in the future.

428
00:24:44,350 --> 00:24:46,328
I'm confident that we can
move forward on that basis.

429
00:24:46,352 --> 00:24:48,583
No.

430
00:24:48,687 --> 00:24:51,452
Grace...

431
00:24:51,557 --> 00:24:52,855
I can't.

432
00:24:57,162 --> 00:24:58,755
I'd like to request
a brief recess

433
00:24:58,864 --> 00:25:00,992
to have a word with my client.

434
00:25:01,133 --> 00:25:02,761
Excuse me.

435
00:25:04,770 --> 00:25:07,831
Grace, this is exactly
what we were hoping for.

436
00:25:07,973 --> 00:25:09,918
I mean, this is the part
where you say you're sorry,

437
00:25:09,942 --> 00:25:11,501
thank your lawyer,

438
00:25:11,643 --> 00:25:15,876
go back to your classroom,
pick up your life, and move on.

439
00:25:16,015 --> 00:25:19,850
- I can't do that.
- Why?

440
00:25:19,985 --> 00:25:21,476
I gave an honest answer

441
00:25:21,620 --> 00:25:23,420
to a student's legitimate
question in history.

442
00:25:23,522 --> 00:25:24,956
Grace.

443
00:25:25,057 --> 00:25:27,993
Grace, you don't wanna do this.

444
00:25:28,093 --> 00:25:32,690
It's the wrong decision.

445
00:25:32,831 --> 00:25:34,959
Is it?

446
00:25:35,067 --> 00:25:38,003
I mean, I would
rather stand with God

447
00:25:38,137 --> 00:25:40,299
and be judged by the world

448
00:25:40,406 --> 00:25:45,208
than stand with the world
and be judged by God.

449
00:25:47,346 --> 00:25:51,306
I am not gonna be afraid
to say the name "Jesus."

450
00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:03,290
I know her. She's
not gonna go for it.

451
00:26:03,395 --> 00:26:04,639
How do we make this go away

452
00:26:04,663 --> 00:26:06,825
and not get blood on our hands?

453
00:26:06,932 --> 00:26:08,901
That's the easy part.

454
00:26:09,034 --> 00:26:11,333
We let the ACLU do it.

455
00:26:11,437 --> 00:26:14,134
They'll file suit
against Ms. Wesley

456
00:26:14,239 --> 00:26:17,937
and if she is found
liable, which she will be,

457
00:26:18,077 --> 00:26:19,875
then we fire her for cause.

458
00:26:20,012 --> 00:26:21,852
But the school district
will certainly be named

459
00:26:21,914 --> 00:26:23,576
as a codefendant.

460
00:26:23,715 --> 00:26:26,116
We don't have the financial
wherewithal to fight that.

461
00:26:26,251 --> 00:26:28,049
They've already been in touch.

462
00:26:28,187 --> 00:26:30,986
They aren't interested
in punishing the school.

463
00:26:31,090 --> 00:26:33,355
They want her.

464
00:26:33,459 --> 00:26:34,757
Are you sure?

465
00:26:34,893 --> 00:26:36,225
Trust me.

466
00:26:36,361 --> 00:26:39,957
They've been dreaming
of a case like this.

467
00:26:49,641 --> 00:26:52,372
While Ms. Wesley apologizes
for any inconvenience

468
00:26:52,478 --> 00:26:55,175
her actions may have caused,

469
00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:57,374
Ms. Wesley stands
by her statements,

470
00:26:57,483 --> 00:26:59,179
and she does not
retract or recant them,

471
00:26:59,284 --> 00:27:05,053
either in full or in part.

472
00:27:05,157 --> 00:27:07,991
So noted.

473
00:27:10,996 --> 00:27:15,730
Having little choice, this board
recommends continued suspension,

474
00:27:15,834 --> 00:27:18,394
henceforth without pay,

475
00:27:18,504 --> 00:27:21,064
pending review by a court
of competent jurisdiction

476
00:27:21,173 --> 00:27:23,267
to determine whether or
not Ms. Wesley violated

477
00:27:23,408 --> 00:27:27,402
local, state, or
federal guidelines.

478
00:27:27,513 --> 00:27:29,778
This proceeding is adjourned.

479
00:27:43,662 --> 00:27:45,102
The last thing we need is

480
00:27:45,130 --> 00:27:46,290
a bunch of religious fanatics

481
00:27:46,365 --> 00:27:47,924
protesting outside of our house.

482
00:27:48,033 --> 00:27:50,195
We'll work to keep it
out of the media for now.

483
00:27:50,335 --> 00:27:53,066
But next year, when you're
applying to all the colleges,

484
00:27:53,172 --> 00:27:54,834
you'll be able to tell the story

485
00:27:54,973 --> 00:27:57,807
of how Brooke was part of a
landmark constitutional case

486
00:27:57,910 --> 00:28:00,744
concerning the separation
of church and state.

487
00:28:00,846 --> 00:28:04,476
And believe me, there is not
an Ivy League admissions board

488
00:28:04,616 --> 00:28:08,576
that could resist that.

489
00:28:08,687 --> 00:28:11,282
And think of the other
children out there,

490
00:28:11,390 --> 00:28:12,790
innocent children
who are subjected

491
00:28:12,891 --> 00:28:15,952
to their repressive
belief system.

492
00:28:16,061 --> 00:28:17,927
And not forgetting the
financial opportunities.

493
00:28:18,030 --> 00:28:19,464
Yes.

494
00:28:19,565 --> 00:28:22,125
Ms. Wesley is an employee
of the school board.

495
00:28:22,234 --> 00:28:24,362
We win in court and we
establish her misconduct

496
00:28:24,503 --> 00:28:26,529
as said paid employee,

497
00:28:26,672 --> 00:28:28,552
well, there's nothing
that changes policy faster

498
00:28:28,674 --> 00:28:32,475
than a big,
expensive settlement.

499
00:28:32,578 --> 00:28:38,040
We're going to prove once
and for all that God is dead.

500
00:28:46,024 --> 00:28:47,549
Brooke is a minor.

501
00:28:47,693 --> 00:28:50,857
As far as the court is
concerned, she has no rights.

502
00:28:50,996 --> 00:28:54,228
That simply means I won't
be asking her to be a witness.

503
00:28:54,366 --> 00:28:58,326
I feel supremely
confident about this.

504
00:29:04,910 --> 00:29:07,470
Okay.

505
00:29:08,347 --> 00:29:11,408
♪♪♪

506
00:29:18,724 --> 00:29:20,852
Injunctive relief?

507
00:29:20,959 --> 00:29:22,325
They're asking
that you be fired,

508
00:29:22,427 --> 00:29:24,555
plus revocation of
your teaching certificate.

509
00:29:24,696 --> 00:29:26,028
What? How am I supposed to...

510
00:29:26,131 --> 00:29:28,191
Plus attorney's fees.

511
00:29:28,300 --> 00:29:32,863
Essentially, you'll
lose everything.

512
00:29:32,971 --> 00:29:34,530
Why are they doing this?

513
00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:36,871
They want to make
an example of you.

514
00:29:36,975 --> 00:29:39,240
To them, your beliefs
are like a disease

515
00:29:39,378 --> 00:29:41,176
whose time has come and gone,

516
00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:46,116
sort of like smallpox,
or polio, or the plague.

517
00:29:48,954 --> 00:29:52,152
So, what do we do?

518
00:29:52,291 --> 00:29:54,283
We win.

519
00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:03,862
Hey, what's going on?

520
00:30:03,969 --> 00:30:05,647
Brooke is exercising
her right to protest.

521
00:30:05,671 --> 00:30:06,764
Idiot.

522
00:30:06,905 --> 00:30:08,203
Hey, shut up, loser.

523
00:30:08,307 --> 00:30:09,317
At least she's
standing for something.

524
00:30:09,341 --> 00:30:10,604
Give me that.

525
00:30:10,709 --> 00:30:14,237
Brooke, you need to
stop this immediately.

526
00:30:14,346 --> 00:30:16,440
Brooke, this is the last
time I'm gonna tell you.

527
00:30:16,548 --> 00:30:17,948
If you don't stop
this right now,

528
00:30:18,083 --> 00:30:19,523
there are gonna be
some consequences.

529
00:30:19,584 --> 00:30:21,144
Actually, I don't
think that there will,

530
00:30:21,286 --> 00:30:24,120
because this is a sidewalk,
which is public property.

531
00:30:24,222 --> 00:30:26,157
My dad's a lawyer.

532
00:30:26,291 --> 00:30:30,490
Well, actually, this sidewalk
is on school property.

533
00:30:30,629 --> 00:30:33,292
I suggest you girls
aren't late for class.

534
00:30:33,432 --> 00:30:35,799
Yes, ma'am.

535
00:30:48,914 --> 00:30:51,110
Hey, what are you doing?

536
00:30:51,216 --> 00:30:52,844
I'm just, you know,
reading the paper

537
00:30:52,984 --> 00:30:56,978
while my laptop goes through
my online jury orientation.

538
00:30:57,089 --> 00:31:01,527
Well, shouldn't you
be paying attention?

539
00:31:01,660 --> 00:31:04,027
Please remember, consumption
of alcoholic beverages,

540
00:31:04,162 --> 00:31:06,393
nonprescription drugs,
and weapons are prohibited

541
00:31:06,531 --> 00:31:08,022
in the courtroom.

542
00:31:08,166 --> 00:31:11,398
Still, isn't it your civic duty?

543
00:31:11,536 --> 00:31:15,769
Theoretically, yeah,
but Matthew 22:14.

544
00:31:15,874 --> 00:31:17,433
Oh, "Many are called,
few are chosen."

545
00:31:17,542 --> 00:31:19,204
Exactly.

546
00:31:19,344 --> 00:31:21,973
Three hundred people show
up, they sit around for 8 hours,

547
00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:24,174
and at the end of the
day, they all go home,

548
00:31:24,316 --> 00:31:26,046
having not been selected.

549
00:31:26,184 --> 00:31:27,624
Statistically, I have
a better chance

550
00:31:27,719 --> 00:31:31,156
of being hit by lightning.

551
00:31:31,256 --> 00:31:33,054
Gotta get some coffee.

552
00:31:33,191 --> 00:31:34,523
All right.

553
00:31:34,659 --> 00:31:36,321
It's called "voir dire."

554
00:31:36,428 --> 00:31:38,840
It means that we get a chance
to eliminate any potential jurors

555
00:31:38,864 --> 00:31:41,663
that may have a
bias against you.

556
00:31:41,767 --> 00:31:43,133
- Sir.
- Oh!

557
00:31:43,235 --> 00:31:44,396
Thank you, sir.

558
00:31:44,536 --> 00:31:45,536
So, how are you feeling?

559
00:31:45,637 --> 00:31:47,128
I'm good.

560
00:31:47,239 --> 00:31:49,150
All right, well, this is a
bit of an arduous process.

561
00:31:49,174 --> 00:31:51,552
They bring all these jurors in.
It's gonna take the whole day,

562
00:31:51,576 --> 00:31:53,738
but I think this is where
we can win the case.

563
00:32:06,825 --> 00:32:10,318
All rise for the Honorable
Judge Robert Stennis.

564
00:32:12,597 --> 00:32:13,462
On the order of the matter

565
00:32:13,598 --> 00:32:15,260
of Thawley vs. Wesley,

566
00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:17,266
you may be seated.

567
00:32:19,070 --> 00:32:22,404
So, it says here...
What does it say?

568
00:32:22,507 --> 00:32:24,442
It says you're a psychic.

569
00:32:24,576 --> 00:32:26,545
Yes.

570
00:32:26,645 --> 00:32:28,375
Oh, do you know who's
gonna win this case?

571
00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:30,142
No, don't answer that.

572
00:32:30,282 --> 00:32:34,117
We're going to challenge
this juror, Your Honor.

573
00:32:34,252 --> 00:32:39,054
Ms. Bailey, what's
your favorite TV show?

574
00:32:39,157 --> 00:32:41,888
"Pretty Little Liars."

575
00:32:41,993 --> 00:32:44,121
Peremptory
challenge, Your Honor.

576
00:32:46,264 --> 00:32:48,358
What is your favorite TV show?

577
00:32:48,467 --> 00:32:52,131
"Duck Dynasty."

578
00:32:52,270 --> 00:32:55,001
Peremptory
challenge, Your Honor.

579
00:32:55,140 --> 00:32:56,768
"Duck Dynasty."

580
00:32:56,908 --> 00:32:59,639
Ms. Smith, are you
involved in any community

581
00:32:59,778 --> 00:33:01,076
or charitable organizations?

582
00:33:01,179 --> 00:33:03,580
Yes, the Salvation Army.

583
00:33:03,682 --> 00:33:05,548
We'll accept this
juror, Your Honor.

584
00:33:05,650 --> 00:33:09,610
Juror number nine,
you're a teacher.

585
00:33:09,754 --> 00:33:11,416
I'm a retired teacher.

586
00:33:11,523 --> 00:33:14,652
Ever have any disciplinary
run-ins with the administration?

587
00:33:14,793 --> 00:33:17,285
Never.

588
00:33:17,395 --> 00:33:19,694
Acceptable to the
plaintiff, Your Honor.

589
00:33:19,831 --> 00:33:21,322
Acceptable, Your Honor.

590
00:33:21,466 --> 00:33:23,332
Peremptory
challenge, Your Honor.

591
00:33:23,468 --> 00:33:24,834
We'll take her, Your Honor.

592
00:33:24,970 --> 00:33:26,370
Thank you, Mr. Cherry.

593
00:33:26,505 --> 00:33:28,804
Preemptive
challenge, Your Honor.

594
00:33:28,940 --> 00:33:32,308
Number two just screams Marine.

595
00:33:32,410 --> 00:33:33,708
I don't want him.

596
00:33:33,845 --> 00:33:35,456
That would mean
blowing our last challenge.

597
00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:36,914
Well, we have no choice.

598
00:33:37,015 --> 00:33:38,815
I mean, what part of
"God, Country, and Corps"

599
00:33:38,950 --> 00:33:41,010
do you wanna put on that jury?

600
00:33:41,152 --> 00:33:44,247
What was your
last paid position?

601
00:33:44,356 --> 00:33:48,657
Artillery Forward Observer,
United States Marine Corps.

602
00:33:48,793 --> 00:33:51,353
Peremptory
challenge, Your Honor.

603
00:33:51,496 --> 00:33:53,260
Thank you.

604
00:33:56,368 --> 00:33:59,361
Your Honor, we'd like
to challenge for cause.

605
00:33:59,504 --> 00:34:01,132
Why is that?

606
00:34:01,239 --> 00:34:03,174
Oh, Your Honor, the
man's an ordained minister.

607
00:34:03,308 --> 00:34:06,335
Need I say more?

608
00:34:06,478 --> 00:34:07,912
The juror is excused.

609
00:34:08,046 --> 00:34:10,038
Objection, Your Honor.

610
00:34:10,181 --> 00:34:11,479
Basis, Mr. Endler?

611
00:34:11,583 --> 00:34:13,347
Discriminatory, Your Honor.

612
00:34:13,485 --> 00:34:15,229
Peremptory challenges can
not be used to discriminate

613
00:34:15,253 --> 00:34:17,381
against a certain class
of juror based on race,

614
00:34:17,522 --> 00:34:20,048
ethnic background,
religion, or gender.

615
00:34:20,191 --> 00:34:21,716
And the fact that
religious belief

616
00:34:21,860 --> 00:34:26,355
is tangential to this
case doesn't change that.

617
00:34:28,900 --> 00:34:30,368
Upon further reflection,

618
00:34:30,468 --> 00:34:33,563
I find the respondent's
assertion is correct.

619
00:34:33,705 --> 00:34:35,003
Sustained.

620
00:34:35,106 --> 00:34:37,803
You're not her pastor, are you?

621
00:34:37,909 --> 00:34:39,207
No, Your Honor.

622
00:34:39,311 --> 00:34:40,870
Your Honor, I must protest here.

623
00:34:41,012 --> 00:34:42,412
Mr. Kane,

624
00:34:42,547 --> 00:34:44,547
now, you had a set number
of peremptory challenges,

625
00:34:44,616 --> 00:34:46,812
all of which you have used.

626
00:34:46,918 --> 00:34:49,012
Therefore, it's up
to opposing counsel.

627
00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:51,589
We accept him, Your Honor.

628
00:34:51,723 --> 00:34:53,419
Welcome to the jury, sir.

629
00:34:53,558 --> 00:34:56,926
Henceforth, juror number twelve.

630
00:34:57,062 --> 00:35:00,191
I hope you enjoy your
service to the community.

631
00:35:00,298 --> 00:35:02,790
Better chance of being
struck by lightning.

632
00:35:07,906 --> 00:35:13,573
It amazes me how we,
as human beings, think.

633
00:35:13,712 --> 00:35:16,045
When I was battling for my life,

634
00:35:16,147 --> 00:35:21,085
I was willing to hold onto
anything, including God,

635
00:35:21,186 --> 00:35:22,797
even though I really
didn't believe in him

636
00:35:22,821 --> 00:35:25,586
until that moment.

637
00:35:25,690 --> 00:35:29,559
I was convinced that I felt him,

638
00:35:29,661 --> 00:35:34,258
but now that I'm
officially in remission,

639
00:35:34,366 --> 00:35:37,461
I find myself
questioning everything.

640
00:35:37,602 --> 00:35:45,305
So, effective immediately,
this blog is the personal diary

641
00:35:45,443 --> 00:35:47,969
of one woman's
exploration of faith

642
00:35:48,113 --> 00:35:52,778
on her own terms, cancer-free.

643
00:36:02,427 --> 00:36:04,157
Hey, Martin. How's it going?

644
00:36:04,295 --> 00:36:06,161
Very good, Pastor Dave.

645
00:36:06,297 --> 00:36:07,663
Oh, please.

646
00:36:10,602 --> 00:36:14,630
You sure?

647
00:36:14,739 --> 00:36:18,642
Well, it seems that for
every question you answered,

648
00:36:18,777 --> 00:36:21,144
three or four more
questions spring up.

649
00:36:21,279 --> 00:36:24,010
Yeah, but that's a
good thing, right?

650
00:36:24,149 --> 00:36:27,347
It's like what Einstein
said about science.

651
00:36:27,485 --> 00:36:29,681
Picture what you know
like the light of a candle.

652
00:36:29,821 --> 00:36:31,881
As the circle of
knowledge expands,

653
00:36:32,023 --> 00:36:35,391
so does the circumference
of darkness around it.

654
00:36:35,527 --> 00:36:37,928
So, I'm actually learning,

655
00:36:38,029 --> 00:36:39,759
even though I
might not feel like it.

656
00:36:39,864 --> 00:36:42,925
Yes, exactly.

657
00:36:43,034 --> 00:36:46,095
Well, I've been
studying the Beatitudes.

658
00:36:46,204 --> 00:36:48,639
They're very hard, one
might say impossible,

659
00:36:48,740 --> 00:36:50,868
to follow completely.

660
00:36:51,009 --> 00:36:53,274
Here in Luke's
account, Jesus says,

661
00:36:53,378 --> 00:36:56,348
"Do unto others as you
have them do unto you."

662
00:36:56,481 --> 00:36:58,347
But how is that possible?

663
00:36:58,450 --> 00:37:00,612
How can I react to the
needs of everyone else

664
00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:04,349
the same as my
own, even for one day,

665
00:37:04,489 --> 00:37:06,151
let alone my whole life?

666
00:37:06,257 --> 00:37:07,657
And how can I
reconcile my inability

667
00:37:07,726 --> 00:37:10,821
to do so with Scripture?

668
00:37:10,929 --> 00:37:14,798
Yeah, those are good questions.

669
00:37:14,899 --> 00:37:18,392
Okay, scoot over.

670
00:37:20,238 --> 00:37:21,536
What is that, Luke?

671
00:37:21,673 --> 00:37:23,972
Yes, 6:20.

672
00:37:24,075 --> 00:37:26,135
"And Jesus said
to his disciples,

673
00:37:26,244 --> 00:37:28,713
"" You who are poor are blessed

674
00:37:28,847 --> 00:37:30,839
"" because the
kingdom of God is yours.

675
00:37:30,949 --> 00:37:33,077
"" You who are now
hungry are blessed

676
00:37:33,218 --> 00:37:34,880
"" because you will be filled.

677
00:37:34,986 --> 00:37:39,219
"" You who now weep are
blessed because you will laugh.

678
00:37:39,357 --> 00:37:42,725
"" You are blessed when people
hate you, when they exclude you,

679
00:37:42,861 --> 00:37:45,831
"" insult you, and
slander your name as evil

680
00:37:45,930 --> 00:37:47,865
because of the Son of Man. ""

681
00:37:59,110 --> 00:38:03,013
You can't win.

682
00:38:03,114 --> 00:38:04,412
Thanks.

683
00:38:04,549 --> 00:38:06,074
I'll take that under advisement.

684
00:38:06,217 --> 00:38:08,709
Oh, come on, you know I'm right.

685
00:38:08,820 --> 00:38:10,118
I mean, why do it?

686
00:38:10,255 --> 00:38:11,917
Why go through this
whole exercise, huh?

687
00:38:12,056 --> 00:38:13,581
Here, thanks.

688
00:38:13,691 --> 00:38:16,422
You know, I looked
up your history.

689
00:38:16,561 --> 00:38:18,621
You're better than this.

690
00:38:18,763 --> 00:38:21,164
You were third in your
class at Stanford Law.

691
00:38:21,299 --> 00:38:23,859
You clerked for a judge
on the Ninth Circuit.

692
00:38:23,968 --> 00:38:25,869
Why you slumming like this?

693
00:38:25,970 --> 00:38:27,982
Maybe I believe that people
that don't do anything wrong

694
00:38:28,006 --> 00:38:30,976
shouldn't suffer at
the hands of the law.

695
00:38:31,109 --> 00:38:33,840
You know what hate is, Tom?

696
00:38:33,978 --> 00:38:35,658
I'm not talking about
the fairy tale stuff,

697
00:38:35,713 --> 00:38:38,308
I mean real hate.

698
00:38:38,449 --> 00:38:42,614
I hate what people
like your client stand for

699
00:38:42,754 --> 00:38:45,519
and what they're
doing to our society,

700
00:38:45,657 --> 00:38:49,617
and Stennis does, too,
even if he doesn't admit it.

701
00:38:49,761 --> 00:38:51,252
Well, the jury doesn't hate her.

702
00:38:51,362 --> 00:38:52,660
Ah, but that's the
secret, Tommy.

703
00:38:52,797 --> 00:38:54,390
They don't need to hate her.

704
00:38:54,499 --> 00:38:59,631
They just need to see a
tiny flaw in her, a half-truth,

705
00:38:59,771 --> 00:39:03,139
a small inconsistency,
just a little bit of doubt,

706
00:39:03,274 --> 00:39:05,800
and they'll find against her.

707
00:39:08,780 --> 00:39:11,477
Nice shoes.

708
00:39:26,164 --> 00:39:27,393
You ready?

709
00:39:28,399 --> 00:39:30,425
Come on.

710
00:39:30,535 --> 00:39:32,265
Congress shall make no law

711
00:39:32,370 --> 00:39:34,498
respecting an establishment

712
00:39:34,606 --> 00:39:39,044
of religion or prohibiting
the free exercise thereof.

713
00:39:39,177 --> 00:39:40,907
The first half of this passage

714
00:39:41,045 --> 00:39:43,514
is known as the
establishment clause.

715
00:39:43,615 --> 00:39:48,519
The second half is known
as the free exercise clause.

716
00:39:48,620 --> 00:39:50,179
Now, there has been
an ongoing debate

717
00:39:50,321 --> 00:39:52,722
about what the role of
government should be,

718
00:39:52,857 --> 00:39:55,691
because in practice,
these two provisions

719
00:39:55,793 --> 00:39:57,989
are often in conflict,

720
00:39:58,096 --> 00:40:02,192
which is what
brings us here today.

721
00:40:02,333 --> 00:40:05,030
In the matter of
Thawley vs. Wesley,

722
00:40:05,169 --> 00:40:07,570
is the plaintiff prepared to
make its opening statement?

723
00:40:07,705 --> 00:40:09,003
We are, Your Honor.

724
00:40:09,107 --> 00:40:11,440
Then proceed.

725
00:40:11,576 --> 00:40:14,910
Ladies and gentlemen,
in a jury of this size,

726
00:40:15,046 --> 00:40:20,314
I'm imagining that there are,
probably among your ranks,

727
00:40:20,418 --> 00:40:22,580
a few Christians.

728
00:40:22,720 --> 00:40:25,212
Hopefully practicing ones,

729
00:40:25,356 --> 00:40:28,258
and that's a good
thing, that's fine,

730
00:40:28,393 --> 00:40:30,760
because Christianity
is not on trial here,

731
00:40:30,895 --> 00:40:36,562
even though my opponent
will try to convince you that it is.

732
00:40:36,668 --> 00:40:40,002
Nor is faith on trial.

733
00:40:40,104 --> 00:40:47,272
Only Ms. Wesley
is on trial here today.

734
00:40:47,412 --> 00:40:50,075
Now, ask any 4th grader

735
00:40:50,181 --> 00:40:53,083
and they're probably
familiar with the phrase,

736
00:40:53,217 --> 00:40:57,177
"Separation of
church and state,"

737
00:40:57,288 --> 00:41:01,817
and that is guaranteed
to us under our laws.

738
00:41:01,960 --> 00:41:04,293
The plaintiffs are the
parents of a student

739
00:41:04,429 --> 00:41:08,958
in Ms. Wesley's class who
was subjected to hearing

740
00:41:09,100 --> 00:41:13,265
the teachings of Jesus Christ
being favorably compared

741
00:41:13,404 --> 00:41:15,566
to the teachings of
Mahatma Gandhi.

742
00:41:15,673 --> 00:41:17,904
We all know that Jesus is part

743
00:41:18,009 --> 00:41:23,107
of a particular
religious tradition.

744
00:41:23,247 --> 00:41:25,773
These parents, who are
trying to raise their daughter

745
00:41:25,917 --> 00:41:27,579
to be a free thinker,

746
00:41:27,685 --> 00:41:30,450
free of any religious dogma,

747
00:41:30,588 --> 00:41:34,889
are wholly offended by what
went on in that classroom.

748
00:41:34,993 --> 00:41:37,485
And she, reciting the words

749
00:41:37,628 --> 00:41:41,087
that were allegedly
attributed to Jesus,

750
00:41:41,199 --> 00:41:44,101
who allegedly lived
2,000 years ago,

751
00:41:44,202 --> 00:41:49,106
gave a clear and
compelling indication

752
00:41:49,207 --> 00:41:55,238
of what she believes,
what she supports,

753
00:41:55,346 --> 00:41:57,577
what she endorses.

754
00:41:57,682 --> 00:41:59,412
Now, let me put it this way.

755
00:41:59,517 --> 00:42:03,545
I don't mean to offend anyone
who may be a Muslim here,

756
00:42:03,688 --> 00:42:06,351
and I do not want to
slight the prophet of Islam,

757
00:42:06,491 --> 00:42:09,325
but if you were to ask me a
question concerning the Quran,

758
00:42:09,427 --> 00:42:11,487
the sacred text of Islam,

759
00:42:11,629 --> 00:42:13,621
and I could come
up with the answer

760
00:42:13,731 --> 00:42:16,326
with great speed and accuracy,

761
00:42:16,467 --> 00:42:20,666
and I could quote the
proper surah, or chapter,

762
00:42:20,772 --> 00:42:25,972
then it would be
reasonable for you to infer

763
00:42:26,077 --> 00:42:31,983
that I was not only
a follower of Islam,

764
00:42:32,083 --> 00:42:34,985
but that I considered
it to be superior

765
00:42:35,086 --> 00:42:37,715
to all other forms of religion.

766
00:42:37,855 --> 00:42:43,692
If I did this in a house of
worship, that would be fine.

767
00:42:43,828 --> 00:42:48,789
But if I did it in an 11th grade
classroom in a public school,

768
00:42:48,900 --> 00:42:53,167
that would be
preaching, not teaching.

769
00:42:53,271 --> 00:42:55,866
So, why? Why in the
world are we here today?

770
00:42:56,007 --> 00:43:00,411
Why? Because Ms.
Wesley refused to apologize,

771
00:43:00,545 --> 00:43:02,207
and that means that
her true motivation

772
00:43:02,346 --> 00:43:05,180
in that moment in her classroom

773
00:43:05,283 --> 00:43:09,516
was to take an innocent question

774
00:43:09,620 --> 00:43:17,027
and turn it into an opportunity
to preach, not teach.

775
00:43:17,128 --> 00:43:22,533
If we grant Ms. Wesley
the right to do that,

776
00:43:22,633 --> 00:43:25,398
and by extension, everyone else,

777
00:43:25,503 --> 00:43:32,000
to violate the law based
solely on our own private beliefs,

778
00:43:32,110 --> 00:43:35,877
then our society will crumble.

779
00:43:35,980 --> 00:43:37,539
I believe that.

780
00:43:37,648 --> 00:43:42,643
So, I implore you, please
do not set this precedent.

781
00:43:42,787 --> 00:43:44,312
Do not.

782
00:43:44,455 --> 00:43:47,289
The future of our
republic depends on it.

783
00:44:02,340 --> 00:44:04,104
What's going on?

784
00:44:04,208 --> 00:44:06,248
Brooke is exercising
her right to protest.

785
00:44:06,344 --> 00:44:08,904
Brooke, I need you to
stop this immediately.

786
00:44:09,013 --> 00:44:11,744
Brooke, this is the last
time I'm gonna tell you.

787
00:44:11,849 --> 00:44:15,081
If you don't stop right now,
there are gonna be consequences.

788
00:44:16,687 --> 00:44:17,687
Hey, Aunt Amy.

789
00:44:17,822 --> 00:44:19,256
Hey, Marlene.

790
00:44:19,357 --> 00:44:21,087
Yeah, I just saw the
video, what's going on?

791
00:44:21,192 --> 00:44:22,626
So, you remember
my friend, Brooke?

792
00:44:22,727 --> 00:44:23,922
Yeah.

793
00:44:24,028 --> 00:44:25,553
Well, she got a
teacher in trouble

794
00:44:25,663 --> 00:44:26,756
for asking her about Jesus.

795
00:44:26,864 --> 00:44:28,332
What?

796
00:44:28,466 --> 00:44:30,110
Now she's not even
supposed to talk about it

797
00:44:30,134 --> 00:44:32,262
and we can't even cover
it in our school paper.

798
00:44:32,370 --> 00:44:34,839
Is there any way that
I could meet with her?

799
00:44:34,972 --> 00:44:38,739
- The teacher?
- No, Brooke.

800
00:44:40,711 --> 00:44:43,681
Mr. Endler, your
opening statement.

801
00:44:45,316 --> 00:44:47,615
Ladies and
gentlemen of the jury,

802
00:44:47,718 --> 00:44:50,017
I have here a copy
of the Constitution

803
00:44:50,154 --> 00:44:51,986
of the United States of America

804
00:44:52,123 --> 00:44:53,819
and its Bill of Rights,

805
00:44:53,958 --> 00:44:56,689
arguably the two most
important documents

806
00:44:56,827 --> 00:44:59,023
in the history of
our great nation.

807
00:44:59,163 --> 00:45:03,032
But despite Mr. Kane's
impassioned rhetoric,

808
00:45:03,167 --> 00:45:05,398
you know what you
won't find in there

809
00:45:05,536 --> 00:45:07,198
no matter how hard you look?

810
00:45:07,338 --> 00:45:12,470
The phrase "Separation
of church and state."

811
00:45:12,577 --> 00:45:14,205
That's right.

812
00:45:14,345 --> 00:45:17,213
It's not in there,
never has been,

813
00:45:17,348 --> 00:45:18,692
because that phrase
comes from a letter

814
00:45:18,716 --> 00:45:21,151
written by Thomas Jefferson.

815
00:45:21,252 --> 00:45:23,016
Now, ironically,
Jefferson was writing

816
00:45:23,154 --> 00:45:25,817
to a Baptist congregation,
ensuring them

817
00:45:25,923 --> 00:45:27,516
that they would
always have the right

818
00:45:27,658 --> 00:45:31,561
to believe as they wished,
free of government interference.

819
00:45:31,696 --> 00:45:35,224
But lately, that phrase has
been taken out of context

820
00:45:35,366 --> 00:45:37,426
and twisted and contorted

821
00:45:37,568 --> 00:45:39,469
to mean the exact opposite.

822
00:45:39,570 --> 00:45:43,098
And one morning early this
year, my client, Ms. Wesley,

823
00:45:43,241 --> 00:45:44,869
she woke up as usual,

824
00:45:44,976 --> 00:45:47,241
she drove to work at
her job as a teacher

825
00:45:47,378 --> 00:45:49,040
at Martin Luther
King High School,

826
00:45:49,146 --> 00:45:52,082
a place where she was
Teacher of the Year.

827
00:45:52,216 --> 00:45:54,583
Her lesson plan for
second period A.P. history

828
00:45:54,719 --> 00:45:59,020
that morning, it didn't include
any mention of God or Jesus.

829
00:45:59,123 --> 00:46:02,924
She didn't have a Bible
sitting on her desk in plain view.

830
00:46:03,060 --> 00:46:04,571
She didn't start her
class with a blessing.

831
00:46:04,595 --> 00:46:06,257
She didn't lead her
students in prayer.

832
00:46:06,397 --> 00:46:12,268
No, all she did was
answer a question,

833
00:46:12,403 --> 00:46:15,840
because that is what
she gets paid to do.

834
00:46:15,940 --> 00:46:18,910
Now, Mr. Kane will
insist loudly and often

835
00:46:19,043 --> 00:46:21,035
that faith isn't on trial here,

836
00:46:21,145 --> 00:46:23,410
but that is exactly
what is on trial,

837
00:46:23,547 --> 00:46:27,712
the most basic human right
of all, the right to believe.

838
00:46:27,818 --> 00:46:30,811
Mr. Kane's afraid.

839
00:46:30,955 --> 00:46:36,792
He's afraid that you, the jury,
the touchstone of common sense,

840
00:46:36,927 --> 00:46:39,294
might not agree with
his tortured interpretation

841
00:46:39,430 --> 00:46:41,797
of the Constitution,

842
00:46:41,932 --> 00:46:45,300
that you might understand
that my client has rights,

843
00:46:45,436 --> 00:46:50,568
rights that trump his agenda,
and that in realizing that

844
00:46:50,675 --> 00:46:52,735
you will hold as I do

845
00:46:52,843 --> 00:46:55,438
that my client is
guilty of no wrongdoing

846
00:46:55,579 --> 00:46:59,675
and innocent of any
and all claims against her.

847
00:47:01,819 --> 00:47:03,981
Thank you very much.

848
00:47:12,463 --> 00:47:14,141
And now it's become
this huge deal,

849
00:47:14,165 --> 00:47:17,465
and all she did was
answer my question.

850
00:47:17,601 --> 00:47:20,264
Why do you think your
parents are doing this?

851
00:47:20,371 --> 00:47:22,704
Because my mom thinks
it'll help me get into Stanford

852
00:47:22,840 --> 00:47:28,006
or one of the Ivys, and my
dad thinks it'll help pay for it.

853
00:47:28,145 --> 00:47:29,670
And nobody's asked
you what you think?

854
00:47:29,814 --> 00:47:31,442
No.

855
00:47:31,549 --> 00:47:35,645
So, are you gonna help her?

856
00:47:35,753 --> 00:47:38,518
I don't know.

857
00:47:38,656 --> 00:47:41,421
I would at least
like to talk to her.

858
00:47:41,525 --> 00:47:44,017
Maybe I could help
get her story out there.

859
00:47:44,161 --> 00:47:47,529
Great, because everyone's
telling me to stay out of it.

860
00:47:49,233 --> 00:47:51,031
Do you always do
what you're told?

861
00:47:53,070 --> 00:47:55,835
What is your heart
telling you to do?

862
00:47:58,209 --> 00:48:00,405
Mr. Thawley, how did you
feel when you found out

863
00:48:00,544 --> 00:48:02,604
that your daughter
had been exposed

864
00:48:02,713 --> 00:48:05,808
to faith-based
teachings in class?

865
00:48:05,916 --> 00:48:07,680
Well, it felt like we
had been violated.

866
00:48:07,785 --> 00:48:09,629
I mean, this was supposed
to be a history class,

867
00:48:09,653 --> 00:48:11,178
not Sunday school.

868
00:48:11,288 --> 00:48:13,018
My wife and I are free thinkers.

869
00:48:13,124 --> 00:48:14,615
We're rationalists.

870
00:48:14,725 --> 00:48:16,285
We believe in a
non-theistic world view,

871
00:48:16,360 --> 00:48:18,625
and that's how we were
trying to raise our daughter.

872
00:48:18,729 --> 00:48:20,994
And did you discuss this
incident with your daughter?

873
00:48:21,098 --> 00:48:22,794
Well, I tried,

874
00:48:22,900 --> 00:48:24,578
but it's hard discussing
anything with kids that age.

875
00:48:24,602 --> 00:48:26,093
She's 16.

876
00:48:26,237 --> 00:48:28,399
Some of you know
what that's like.

877
00:48:28,539 --> 00:48:31,099
It's hard enough trying to
maintain credibility as a parent

878
00:48:31,242 --> 00:48:33,006
without a teacher jumping in

879
00:48:33,110 --> 00:48:34,976
and arguing
against your position.

880
00:48:35,079 --> 00:48:37,057
Now, we trust the school
not to overstep its bounds

881
00:48:37,081 --> 00:48:39,380
in terms of what is and
what isn't appropriate.

882
00:48:39,517 --> 00:48:40,849
Is that too much to ask?

883
00:48:40,951 --> 00:48:42,419
No. Thank you, Mr. Thawley.

884
00:48:42,553 --> 00:48:44,112
That's all, Your Honor.

885
00:48:44,255 --> 00:48:46,724
Your witness, Mr. Endler.

886
00:48:46,824 --> 00:48:48,759
No questions, Your Honor.

887
00:48:48,893 --> 00:48:51,488
Next witness, Mr. Kane.

888
00:48:51,595 --> 00:48:56,590
Mrs. Rizzo, did Ms. Wesley
talk about faith issues

889
00:48:56,734 --> 00:48:58,225
on the school campus?

890
00:48:58,369 --> 00:48:59,667
All the time.

891
00:48:59,770 --> 00:49:01,830
Everybody knows
she's a Christian.

892
00:49:01,939 --> 00:49:04,408
I don't think she'd chew a
stick of gum without praying first.

893
00:49:04,542 --> 00:49:06,602
It makes everyone feel awkward.

894
00:49:06,744 --> 00:49:08,235
Thank you.

895
00:49:08,379 --> 00:49:10,746
No further questions,
Your Honor.

896
00:49:10,881 --> 00:49:13,214
Your witness, Mr. Endler.

897
00:49:14,685 --> 00:49:17,587
Mrs. Rizzo, you
stated that Ms. Wesley

898
00:49:17,721 --> 00:49:20,088
talks about her
faith all the time.

899
00:49:20,191 --> 00:49:24,390
I'm curious, can you give
me a specific instance?

900
00:49:24,495 --> 00:49:27,124
Well, not off the
top of my head.

901
00:49:27,264 --> 00:49:29,290
Well, has she, as
far as you're aware,

902
00:49:29,433 --> 00:49:31,231
ever started her
class with a prayer?

903
00:49:31,335 --> 00:49:33,031
No.

904
00:49:33,137 --> 00:49:35,115
Has she ever asked anyone
in the teacher's lounge

905
00:49:35,139 --> 00:49:36,139
to pray with her?

906
00:49:36,240 --> 00:49:37,868
No.

907
00:49:37,975 --> 00:49:40,342
Has she ever asked you
personally to pray with her?

908
00:49:40,478 --> 00:49:41,639
Objection, Your Honor.

909
00:49:41,779 --> 00:49:43,270
- No.
- Cumulative.

910
00:49:43,414 --> 00:49:45,781
The question has effectively
been asked and answered.

911
00:49:45,883 --> 00:49:48,284
Your Honor, Mrs. Rizzo's
sworn testimony states

912
00:49:48,419 --> 00:49:51,287
that Ms. Wesley talked
about her faith all the time,

913
00:49:51,422 --> 00:49:53,323
yet she's failed to
cite a single instance.

914
00:49:53,457 --> 00:49:56,621
I'm merely trying to discover
some basis for her opinion.

915
00:49:56,760 --> 00:49:58,422
Sustained.

916
00:49:58,529 --> 00:50:00,407
Mr. Endler, we're done
with this line of questioning.

917
00:50:00,431 --> 00:50:02,991
Mrs. Rizzo, in the
school's initial inquiry

918
00:50:03,133 --> 00:50:05,625
into this matter, you were
Ms. Wesley's representative

919
00:50:05,769 --> 00:50:06,980
on behalf of the
teacher's union,

920
00:50:07,004 --> 00:50:07,869
were you not?

921
00:50:08,005 --> 00:50:09,473
Yes.

922
00:50:09,573 --> 00:50:10,984
And did you ever consider
that your disapproval

923
00:50:11,008 --> 00:50:13,944
of her faith might
taint your ability

924
00:50:14,044 --> 00:50:15,307
to represent her properly?

925
00:50:15,446 --> 00:50:16,623
Objection, speculative.

926
00:50:16,647 --> 00:50:17,706
Sustained.

927
00:50:19,283 --> 00:50:20,751
God bless you.

928
00:50:20,851 --> 00:50:22,329
Careful, or you
might end up on trial.

929
00:50:22,353 --> 00:50:25,289
Mr. Endler!

930
00:50:25,389 --> 00:50:27,483
No further questions,
Your Honor.

931
00:50:30,995 --> 00:50:33,464
So, when are these
religious zealots

932
00:50:33,564 --> 00:50:36,363
going to realize it's not
only disrespectful of them

933
00:50:36,500 --> 00:50:38,298
to push their beliefs on others,

934
00:50:38,402 --> 00:50:40,928
in this case, it's
actually illegal?

935
00:50:41,038 --> 00:50:44,839
This woman, this fundamentalist,
used her position of influence

936
00:50:44,975 --> 00:50:49,037
as a teacher to fill the minds
of our children with nonsense.

937
00:50:49,179 --> 00:50:50,977
If you ask me, the
religious extremists

938
00:50:51,081 --> 00:50:54,518
we need to worry about
are the hard-core Christians.

939
00:50:54,618 --> 00:50:57,611
How about we show up in force
and show Ms. Wesley just exactly

940
00:50:57,721 --> 00:51:00,020
what we think of
her proselytizing?

941
00:51:00,291 --> 00:51:01,691
Principal Kinney, what was

942
00:51:01,792 --> 00:51:05,126
the school district's
final determination?

943
00:51:05,229 --> 00:51:07,858
Well, Grace has been
suspended without pay

944
00:51:07,998 --> 00:51:10,399
pending the
result of this trial.

945
00:51:10,534 --> 00:51:13,163
Isn't it rather unusual,
leaving it up to a third party

946
00:51:13,270 --> 00:51:17,332
to determine whether
Ms. Wesley is fired?

947
00:51:17,441 --> 00:51:19,081
We've decided to accept

948
00:51:19,209 --> 00:51:21,371
the court's interpretation
of wrongdoing either way.

949
00:51:21,512 --> 00:51:22,810
No questions, Your Honor.

950
00:51:22,913 --> 00:51:24,424
Your witness, Mr. Endler.

951
00:51:24,448 --> 00:51:25,916
Ms. Kinney,

952
00:51:26,050 --> 00:51:28,383
can you tell me the full
name of the high school

953
00:51:28,485 --> 00:51:30,010
over which you preside?

954
00:51:30,120 --> 00:51:33,579
Doctor Martin Luther King
Junior Memorial High School.

955
00:51:33,724 --> 00:51:35,556
I noticed that the
name fails to mention

956
00:51:35,659 --> 00:51:38,151
Dr. King's title as
Reverend Doctor.

957
00:51:38,262 --> 00:51:40,629
It's his work in the
field of civil rights

958
00:51:40,764 --> 00:51:42,357
that we prefer to highlight.

959
00:51:42,466 --> 00:51:44,196
But that's the whole point.

960
00:51:44,301 --> 00:51:46,065
You consider his
faith and politics

961
00:51:46,203 --> 00:51:48,263
to be separate things,

962
00:51:48,405 --> 00:51:51,034
but I don't, and he
certainly wouldn't have.

963
00:51:51,141 --> 00:51:52,575
Objection, Your Honor.

964
00:51:52,676 --> 00:51:54,167
Counsel is testifying.

965
00:51:54,278 --> 00:51:56,076
Sustained.

966
00:51:56,213 --> 00:52:00,207
Jury's instructed to ignore
Mr. Endler's preceding remarks.

967
00:52:00,317 --> 00:52:02,411
Ms. Kinney, are you
familiar with Dr. King's letter

968
00:52:02,553 --> 00:52:03,987
from the Birmingham Jail?

969
00:52:04,121 --> 00:52:05,198
Yes, it's a seminal piece

970
00:52:05,222 --> 00:52:07,157
of civil rights history.

971
00:52:07,291 --> 00:52:09,783
In that letter Dr. King
makes numerous

972
00:52:09,927 --> 00:52:11,793
faith-based
references, does he not?

973
00:52:11,929 --> 00:52:13,955
Offhand, I don't recall.

974
00:52:14,098 --> 00:52:17,125
Allow me to refresh your memory.

975
00:52:19,069 --> 00:52:22,130
He cites the example
of the three youths

976
00:52:22,272 --> 00:52:25,367
from the book of Daniel who
were tossed into the fiery furnace

977
00:52:25,476 --> 00:52:28,446
by King Nebuchadnezzar
because they refused to worship him.

978
00:52:28,579 --> 00:52:31,105
Elsewhere, he urges
action with Jesus,

979
00:52:31,248 --> 00:52:33,945
and here I quote,
"Extremist love."

980
00:52:34,051 --> 00:52:36,011
And in his speech, "I've
Been to the Mountaintop,"

981
00:52:36,120 --> 00:52:39,420
he stated that he just
wanted to do God's will.

982
00:52:39,523 --> 00:52:41,116
Is this coming back to you now?

983
00:52:41,258 --> 00:52:42,590
Yes.

984
00:52:42,693 --> 00:52:44,286
In your opinion,
would Ms. Wesley,

985
00:52:44,395 --> 00:52:46,887
had she chosen to do so,
have been allowed to present

986
00:52:46,997 --> 00:52:48,675
the examples that I just
mentioned in her class?

987
00:52:48,699 --> 00:52:50,292
Objection, speculative.

988
00:52:50,401 --> 00:52:51,845
I'm going to allow it.

989
00:52:51,869 --> 00:52:53,167
Overruled.

990
00:52:53,303 --> 00:52:55,295
Witness may answer.

991
00:52:56,040 --> 00:52:57,599
No.

992
00:52:57,708 --> 00:53:00,837
If it were up to me, she
would not have been allowed.

993
00:53:00,978 --> 00:53:02,446
Why not?

994
00:53:02,546 --> 00:53:03,890
Because those examples

995
00:53:03,914 --> 00:53:05,158
are too closely
associated with faith.

996
00:53:05,182 --> 00:53:06,946
In other words, they're facts,

997
00:53:07,051 --> 00:53:10,818
but they're just facts that are
too dangerous for discussion?

998
00:53:10,954 --> 00:53:13,446
The word I would use
would be "controversial."

999
00:53:13,557 --> 00:53:16,459
But aren't facts just facts?

1000
00:53:16,560 --> 00:53:18,119
I mean, there's
nothing controversial

1001
00:53:18,228 --> 00:53:22,666
about 2 plus 2 equaling
4, or E equals MC squared,

1002
00:53:22,766 --> 00:53:24,758
or the date man
landed on the moon.

1003
00:53:24,868 --> 00:53:27,167
So, why the controversy
about these facts?

1004
00:53:27,271 --> 00:53:29,137
I think the fact that
we're all here today

1005
00:53:29,239 --> 00:53:31,231
speaks for itself.

1006
00:53:34,078 --> 00:53:36,138
Thank you for your honesty.

1007
00:53:38,348 --> 00:53:40,476
One last question.

1008
00:53:40,584 --> 00:53:41,882
In your orientation

1009
00:53:42,019 --> 00:53:43,487
at the beginning
of the semester,

1010
00:53:43,587 --> 00:53:47,524
your memo to the staff
stressed diversity and tolerance,

1011
00:53:47,658 --> 00:53:49,217
did it not?

1012
00:53:49,359 --> 00:53:51,055
Yes.

1013
00:53:51,195 --> 00:53:54,256
Well, would it be fair to say
that except for Christianity,

1014
00:53:54,398 --> 00:53:56,367
all other forms of
diversity are welcome?

1015
00:53:56,467 --> 00:53:57,730
Objection!

1016
00:53:57,868 --> 00:53:58,868
Your Honor!

1017
00:53:59,002 --> 00:54:00,664
I will withdraw the question.

1018
00:54:00,771 --> 00:54:02,749
Mr. Endler, you seem
to have a penchant

1019
00:54:02,773 --> 00:54:05,436
for injecting commentary
where it doesn't belong.

1020
00:54:05,576 --> 00:54:07,738
You would do well to
avoid further provocation

1021
00:54:07,878 --> 00:54:09,506
of this court.

1022
00:54:09,613 --> 00:54:11,582
I apologize, Your Honor.

1023
00:54:11,715 --> 00:54:14,583
I'll look to curtail
it in the future.

1024
00:54:17,020 --> 00:54:18,454
Redirect, Your Honor?

1025
00:54:20,190 --> 00:54:24,685
Ms. Kinney, I understand
that you attended a service

1026
00:54:24,795 --> 00:54:27,458
at Ms. Wesley's
church a short while ago.

1027
00:54:27,598 --> 00:54:28,930
Is that correct?

1028
00:54:29,066 --> 00:54:30,694
Yes, that's correct.

1029
00:54:30,801 --> 00:54:33,703
It was an event honoring several
students who attend that church

1030
00:54:33,804 --> 00:54:35,067
for their community service.

1031
00:54:35,172 --> 00:54:36,697
Mm-hmm.

1032
00:54:36,807 --> 00:54:39,709
And who was it that
invited you to that service?

1033
00:54:39,810 --> 00:54:41,073
Grace Wesley.

1034
00:54:41,211 --> 00:54:42,702
I see.

1035
00:54:42,813 --> 00:54:45,715
And where were you when
this invitation was extended?

1036
00:54:45,816 --> 00:54:47,114
At my office.

1037
00:54:47,251 --> 00:54:48,583
On school grounds?

1038
00:54:48,685 --> 00:54:50,620
Yes.

1039
00:54:50,754 --> 00:54:53,053
During work hours?

1040
00:54:53,157 --> 00:54:55,888
Yes.

1041
00:54:55,993 --> 00:54:58,121
Thank you.

1042
00:55:00,030 --> 00:55:02,431
Oh, one last question.

1043
00:55:02,566 --> 00:55:05,900
Is it true that Ms.
Wesley accepts donations

1044
00:55:06,003 --> 00:55:11,237
for a faith-based
charity, Convoy of Hope,

1045
00:55:11,341 --> 00:55:14,334
right there in the classroom?

1046
00:55:14,478 --> 00:55:16,572
Yes, she does.

1047
00:55:16,680 --> 00:55:18,148
Thank you again.

1048
00:55:18,282 --> 00:55:20,615
No further questions,
Your Honor.

1049
00:55:24,621 --> 00:55:27,352
You may step down, Mrs. Kinney.

1050
00:55:27,491 --> 00:55:29,255
Court's adjourned.

1051
00:55:33,797 --> 00:55:37,063
Grace, can I ask you a question,

1052
00:55:37,167 --> 00:55:39,398
off the record?

1053
00:55:39,503 --> 00:55:40,937
Sure.

1054
00:55:41,038 --> 00:55:43,007
These people, they're
looking to destroy you,

1055
00:55:43,140 --> 00:55:47,009
and I don't just
mean financially.

1056
00:55:47,144 --> 00:55:49,113
Do you think it's worth it?

1057
00:55:51,381 --> 00:55:53,748
I hope so.

1058
00:55:56,119 --> 00:55:58,782
So do I.

1059
00:56:14,137 --> 00:56:15,662
Fishy and cheesy
at the same time.

1060
00:56:15,806 --> 00:56:17,866
David, this tuna
melt is exquisite.

1061
00:56:18,008 --> 00:56:19,567
Oh, yeah, exquisite.

1062
00:56:19,710 --> 00:56:21,201
It's the provolone.

1063
00:56:21,345 --> 00:56:22,813
That was my idea.

1064
00:56:22,913 --> 00:56:25,781
I love what it does to
the flavor of the fish.

1065
00:56:25,883 --> 00:56:27,317
Don't I know you?

1066
00:56:27,417 --> 00:56:28,976
You're from Blaze's
Car Rental, right?

1067
00:56:29,086 --> 00:56:30,679
Oh, yeah.

1068
00:56:30,787 --> 00:56:34,155
Yeah, that gig didn't
really work out for me.

1069
00:56:34,258 --> 00:56:36,591
I don't think customer
service is my forte.

1070
00:56:36,727 --> 00:56:38,696
So, you decided
to become a waiter?

1071
00:56:38,829 --> 00:56:40,661
Well, this is where I
do my dinner theatre.

1072
00:56:40,764 --> 00:56:42,494
In the mornings I
serve up croissants.

1073
00:56:42,599 --> 00:56:44,363
In the evenings I
serve up Chekhov.

1074
00:56:44,468 --> 00:56:45,993
Oh.

1075
00:56:46,103 --> 00:56:50,370
Hey, listen, sorry about the
whole car not working thing.

1076
00:56:50,507 --> 00:56:51,839
It's okay.

1077
00:56:51,942 --> 00:56:53,535
I learned my lesson.

1078
00:56:53,677 --> 00:56:54,975
He bought a Prius.

1079
00:56:55,078 --> 00:56:56,546
Starts every time.

1080
00:56:56,680 --> 00:56:58,046
Oh!

1081
00:57:01,551 --> 00:57:02,849
- Same guy.
- Same guy.

1082
00:57:02,953 --> 00:57:06,048
Amazing.

1083
00:57:06,189 --> 00:57:10,456
Gentlemen, I don't
wanna spoil your brunch,

1084
00:57:10,594 --> 00:57:13,564
but I'm hearing
from a friend of mine

1085
00:57:13,664 --> 00:57:15,860
in the prosecutor's
office about a subpoena

1086
00:57:15,966 --> 00:57:20,370
that just came down
demanding that we submit

1087
00:57:20,470 --> 00:57:26,933
copies of our sermons for
the last 3 months for review.

1088
00:57:28,845 --> 00:57:30,780
Can they do that?

1089
00:57:30,914 --> 00:57:32,883
They tried it in Houston.

1090
00:57:32,983 --> 00:57:34,383
So, now the government
can determine

1091
00:57:34,484 --> 00:57:36,715
what we can and can't
preach at our churches?

1092
00:57:36,820 --> 00:57:38,254
Let's not overreact.

1093
00:57:38,355 --> 00:57:40,085
I'm sure there's
no ill intent here.

1094
00:57:40,190 --> 00:57:44,127
Unfortunately, I think
this is just the beginning.

1095
00:57:44,261 --> 00:57:49,290
We've been ignoring it, and
now we're paying the price for it.

1096
00:57:49,433 --> 00:57:51,698
Well, don't forget
the silent majority.

1097
00:57:51,802 --> 00:57:53,134
They're out there.

1098
00:57:53,270 --> 00:57:55,205
They just need
something to stand for.

1099
00:57:55,305 --> 00:57:58,036
Well I'll admit there's
pressure, but I think with time

1100
00:57:58,141 --> 00:57:59,769
this will correct itself.

1101
00:57:59,876 --> 00:58:03,711
Forgive me, but I
think you're wrong.

1102
00:58:03,814 --> 00:58:05,578
I'm serving on a jury
in a case right now

1103
00:58:05,682 --> 00:58:07,275
that touches on these issues.

1104
00:58:07,417 --> 00:58:09,228
And of course, I'm not
allowed to talk about it,

1105
00:58:09,252 --> 00:58:12,313
but I mean, the one thing
that it's convinced me of

1106
00:58:12,456 --> 00:58:14,823
is that if we stand
by and do nothing,

1107
00:58:14,958 --> 00:58:16,426
pressure that
we're feeling today

1108
00:58:16,526 --> 00:58:18,461
is gonna mean
persecution tomorrow.

1109
00:58:18,595 --> 00:58:20,564
What makes you so sure?

1110
00:58:20,664 --> 00:58:25,625
Speed of change,
viciousness of the opposition.

1111
00:58:25,736 --> 00:58:27,776
The message of the gospel
has us standing in the way

1112
00:58:27,838 --> 00:58:30,034
of a lot of things that
powerful people want,

1113
00:58:30,173 --> 00:58:32,972
and our resistance to
change that message

1114
00:58:33,110 --> 00:58:36,512
because it's not ours to change
has made us a lot of enemies.

1115
00:58:36,646 --> 00:58:39,343
Whether we admit it
or not, we're at war,

1116
00:58:39,483 --> 00:58:42,317
the war of Ephesians 6,
not against flesh and blood,

1117
00:58:42,452 --> 00:58:44,546
but against the
powers of this world,

1118
00:58:44,688 --> 00:58:47,988
against the spiritual forces
in the heavenly realms.

1119
00:58:48,091 --> 00:58:53,189
And if we insist
on denying that,

1120
00:58:53,330 --> 00:58:56,095
then we've already lost.

1121
00:59:09,079 --> 00:59:10,809
I brought a giant
bag of Chinese food

1122
00:59:10,914 --> 00:59:12,712
and a briefcase full of files.

1123
00:59:12,849 --> 00:59:14,977
I say we eat first.

1124
00:59:15,085 --> 00:59:16,610
I say you're a genius.

1125
00:59:18,155 --> 00:59:19,589
Does Walter want to join us?

1126
00:59:19,723 --> 00:59:22,056
Oh, no. He's hiding in his room.

1127
00:59:22,192 --> 00:59:23,717
How come?

1128
00:59:23,860 --> 00:59:26,489
He's treating this
like it's a date,

1129
00:59:26,596 --> 00:59:28,292
which should give
you some indication

1130
00:59:28,398 --> 00:59:30,026
of what my social life is like.

1131
00:59:30,167 --> 00:59:31,692
Don't worry, I won't tell.

1132
00:59:31,802 --> 00:59:34,670
Falls under
attorney-client privilege.

1133
00:59:34,771 --> 00:59:36,549
So, is this what you
always saw yourself doing,

1134
00:59:36,573 --> 00:59:38,098
the lawyer thing?

1135
00:59:38,241 --> 00:59:40,176
No, um...

1136
00:59:40,277 --> 00:59:43,372
I wanted to be Batman.

1137
00:59:43,480 --> 00:59:45,039
How 'bout you?

1138
00:59:45,182 --> 00:59:47,182
Your parents have you
all set to go to the convent?

1139
00:59:47,250 --> 00:59:49,344
Actually, there were
no bedtime prayers

1140
00:59:49,453 --> 00:59:50,751
in my childhood.

1141
00:59:50,887 --> 00:59:54,085
I was raised in a house
without much faith.

1142
00:59:54,224 --> 00:59:56,693
When did you decide
to become a Christian?

1143
00:59:56,793 --> 00:59:59,058
I was walking home from class.

1144
00:59:59,162 --> 01:00:05,432
It was dark, and I was
struggling with a lot of things.

1145
01:00:05,569 --> 01:00:06,901
And I turned the corner,

1146
01:00:07,037 --> 01:00:09,529
and right there in front
of me was this church.

1147
01:00:09,639 --> 01:00:12,438
It had this old sign out front,

1148
01:00:12,576 --> 01:00:15,603
but it just stopped
me in my tracks.

1149
01:00:15,745 --> 01:00:20,911
And the sign... the sign said,

1150
01:00:21,051 --> 01:00:25,079
"Who do you say that I am?"

1151
01:00:25,222 --> 01:00:30,854
And as I read it, I could
hear the Lord speak to me.

1152
01:00:35,265 --> 01:00:36,858
You know,

1153
01:00:36,967 --> 01:00:40,563
I couldn't get that question
out of my head for days,

1154
01:00:40,670 --> 01:00:42,969
so that was the start of
a journey that didn't end

1155
01:00:43,106 --> 01:00:45,632
until I found the answer.

1156
01:00:45,775 --> 01:00:48,074
♪♪♪

1157
01:02:32,015 --> 01:02:34,575
♪♪♪

1158
01:02:54,904 --> 01:02:56,566
♪♪♪

1159
01:03:14,924 --> 01:03:17,393
♪♪♪

1160
01:03:34,944 --> 01:03:37,812
♪♪♪

1161
01:03:55,799 --> 01:03:58,701
♪♪♪

1162
01:04:20,623 --> 01:04:23,991
♪♪♪

1163
01:04:40,844 --> 01:04:48,844
♪ Nearer, my God, to thee ♪

1164
01:04:50,253 --> 01:04:57,558
♪ Nearer to thee ♪

1165
01:05:07,203 --> 01:05:08,323
That was beautiful.

1166
01:05:10,373 --> 01:05:14,071
Forgive me, but I did not
know anyone was here.

1167
01:05:14,210 --> 01:05:15,354
Oh, no. Please don't apologize.

1168
01:05:15,378 --> 01:05:19,679
I didn't mean to interrupt.

1169
01:05:19,783 --> 01:05:23,083
I just didn't know
where else to go.

1170
01:05:25,488 --> 01:05:26,547
I'm Martin.

1171
01:05:26,689 --> 01:05:28,021
I'm Brooke.

1172
01:05:29,793 --> 01:05:33,093
Do you think I could
ask you a few questions?

1173
01:05:37,867 --> 01:05:40,029
That would be fine.

1174
01:05:40,136 --> 01:05:42,037
Good, 'cause I have a lot.

1175
01:05:49,145 --> 01:05:52,377
He doesn't make mistakes.

1176
01:05:52,482 --> 01:05:53,780
But I thought you proved bias.

1177
01:05:53,917 --> 01:05:55,477
I mean, Principal
Kinney and Mrs. Rizzo?

1178
01:05:55,585 --> 01:05:57,053
Those were just jabs.

1179
01:05:57,153 --> 01:06:00,282
We need a knockout punch.

1180
01:06:00,423 --> 01:06:01,891
Why did you feel compelled

1181
01:06:01,991 --> 01:06:04,756
to bring Jesus up
in history class?

1182
01:06:06,029 --> 01:06:07,827
Why shouldn't I have?

1183
01:06:07,964 --> 01:06:10,229
Grace, I'm not here
to debate with you

1184
01:06:10,333 --> 01:06:11,773
what you think
your rights were as...

1185
01:06:11,868 --> 01:06:14,736
No, Tom, listen.

1186
01:06:14,838 --> 01:06:17,103
This isn't about faith.

1187
01:06:17,207 --> 01:06:19,233
This is about history.

1188
01:06:19,342 --> 01:06:20,708
Okay, maybe I'm wrong here.

1189
01:06:20,810 --> 01:06:22,142
I'm not the law expert,

1190
01:06:22,278 --> 01:06:26,272
but I think they've
missed the point.

1191
01:06:26,382 --> 01:06:28,146
I'm not sure I follow.

1192
01:06:28,284 --> 01:06:31,254
Their whole attack, it's
about me preaching in class,

1193
01:06:31,354 --> 01:06:32,879
but I didn't do that.

1194
01:06:32,989 --> 01:06:34,480
They're saying you did.

1195
01:06:34,624 --> 01:06:36,183
You cited Scripture.

1196
01:06:36,326 --> 01:06:38,295
You talked about
Jesus' teachings just like

1197
01:06:38,394 --> 01:06:41,887
they were any
other verifiable fact.

1198
01:06:41,998 --> 01:06:43,626
But what if they're just that?

1199
01:06:43,733 --> 01:06:46,396
I mean, just because certain
facts happen to be recorded

1200
01:06:46,503 --> 01:06:49,302
in the Bible doesn't
mean they stop being facts.

1201
01:06:49,439 --> 01:06:51,271
We can separate the
history-based elements

1202
01:06:51,374 --> 01:06:54,606
of Jesus' life from the
faith-based element.

1203
01:06:54,711 --> 01:06:57,180
I mean, in my classroom,
I didn't talk about Jesus

1204
01:06:57,313 --> 01:06:59,475
as my Lord and Savior.

1205
01:06:59,582 --> 01:07:01,608
You know, all I did was
comment on quotations

1206
01:07:01,718 --> 01:07:05,450
attributed to Jesus, the man,
and I did it in A.P. History.

1207
01:07:05,555 --> 01:07:07,183
There was nothing
wrong with the context.

1208
01:07:07,323 --> 01:07:08,985
And any rule saying
that you can talk

1209
01:07:09,092 --> 01:07:11,118
about any historic
figure that ever existed

1210
01:07:11,227 --> 01:07:14,061
except Jesus is discriminatory.

1211
01:07:14,197 --> 01:07:15,790
They can't institute that.

1212
01:07:15,899 --> 01:07:18,334
And every credible historian
admits that Jesus existed.

1213
01:07:18,434 --> 01:07:19,954
I mean, there's just
too much evidence.

1214
01:07:20,036 --> 01:07:21,766
Grace, I love it.

1215
01:07:21,871 --> 01:07:23,533
This is our defense.

1216
01:07:23,673 --> 01:07:26,973
Jesus as a historic figure,
just like everyone else.

1217
01:07:27,076 --> 01:07:28,635
And you know what?

1218
01:07:28,745 --> 01:07:31,044
Kane will never see it coming.

1219
01:07:40,423 --> 01:07:42,858
You got some reading to do.

1220
01:07:47,196 --> 01:07:49,358
He just had so many
notes written in the margins

1221
01:07:49,465 --> 01:07:52,162
that for the first
time I felt like I was

1222
01:07:52,268 --> 01:07:54,737
truly getting to
know my brother.

1223
01:07:54,871 --> 01:07:58,364
Like God gave me
the extra 5 minutes

1224
01:07:58,474 --> 01:08:00,466
that I so desperately
needed with him.

1225
01:08:02,845 --> 01:08:06,509
I just don't understand why
he never told me about his faith.

1226
01:08:06,616 --> 01:08:09,211
Sharing one's faith with family,

1227
01:08:09,319 --> 01:08:12,687
especially not knowing
how they will react,

1228
01:08:12,789 --> 01:08:15,315
can be difficult.

1229
01:08:15,425 --> 01:08:18,759
Count our struggles
as blessings, right?

1230
01:08:20,296 --> 01:08:22,891
That is exactly right.

1231
01:08:27,303 --> 01:08:31,764
There are more than 5 minutes
awaiting you and your brother.

1232
01:08:31,908 --> 01:08:36,209
John chapter 11,
verse 25 to 26 says,

1233
01:08:36,312 --> 01:08:38,747
"I am the resurrection
and the life.

1234
01:08:38,881 --> 01:08:43,444
"He who believes in me
will live even if he dies.

1235
01:08:43,586 --> 01:08:46,078
"And whoever lives
and believes in me

1236
01:08:46,189 --> 01:08:48,420
will never die."

1237
01:08:48,524 --> 01:08:51,961
Do you believe this?

1238
01:08:52,095 --> 01:08:53,825
I do.

1239
01:08:53,963 --> 01:08:56,262
Then invite him into your heart

1240
01:08:56,399 --> 01:08:59,096
and make him the
Lord of your life.

1241
01:09:09,846 --> 01:09:14,614
Dear Lord, I'm not
quite sure what to say,

1242
01:09:14,717 --> 01:09:21,089
but thank you for dying
on the cross for me.

1243
01:09:22,291 --> 01:09:25,659
Please forgive me of my sin.

1244
01:09:25,795 --> 01:09:29,664
Jesus, please come into my life,

1245
01:09:29,799 --> 01:09:32,997
and I will follow you
as my Lord and Savior.

1246
01:09:35,972 --> 01:09:37,838
Amen.

1247
01:09:37,974 --> 01:09:42,139
♪♪♪

1248
01:09:47,984 --> 01:09:49,953
Thank you.

1249
01:09:58,728 --> 01:10:01,163
Can you state your name
and occupation for the court?

1250
01:10:01,297 --> 01:10:02,788
My name is Lee Strobel.

1251
01:10:02,899 --> 01:10:04,299
I'm a professor of
Christian thought

1252
01:10:04,367 --> 01:10:05,995
at Houston Baptist University

1253
01:10:06,135 --> 01:10:08,661
and the author of more than
20 books about Christianity,

1254
01:10:08,805 --> 01:10:10,865
including "The Case for Christ."

1255
01:10:11,007 --> 01:10:14,307
Can you help me prove the
existence of Jesus Christ?

1256
01:10:14,410 --> 01:10:17,209
Absolutely, beyond
any reasonable doubt.

1257
01:10:17,346 --> 01:10:18,837
How so?

1258
01:10:18,948 --> 01:10:20,626
Actually, this court
already affirmed it

1259
01:10:20,650 --> 01:10:23,142
when we were called into
session and the date was given.

1260
01:10:23,252 --> 01:10:27,053
Our calendar has been
split between B.C. and A.D.

1261
01:10:27,190 --> 01:10:28,818
based on the birth of Jesus,

1262
01:10:28,925 --> 01:10:31,190
which is quite a feat
if he never existed.

1263
01:10:31,327 --> 01:10:34,354
Beyond that, historian
Gary Habermas

1264
01:10:34,497 --> 01:10:38,025
lists 39 ancient
sources for Jesus,

1265
01:10:38,167 --> 01:10:41,660
from which he enumerates
more than 100 reported facts

1266
01:10:41,771 --> 01:10:46,436
about his life, teachings,
crucifixion, and resurrection.

1267
01:10:46,576 --> 01:10:49,740
In fact, the historical
evidence for Jesus' execution

1268
01:10:49,879 --> 01:10:52,678
is so strong that one
of the most famous

1269
01:10:52,782 --> 01:10:55,013
New Testament
scholars in the world,

1270
01:10:55,118 --> 01:10:58,577
Gerd Ludemann of
Germany, said, "Jesus' death

1271
01:10:58,721 --> 01:11:02,351
as a consequence of
crucifixion is indisputable."

1272
01:11:02,458 --> 01:11:05,018
Now, there are very few
facts in ancient history

1273
01:11:05,128 --> 01:11:07,563
that a critical historian
like Gerd Ludemann

1274
01:11:07,663 --> 01:11:10,189
will say is indisputable.

1275
01:11:10,299 --> 01:11:13,428
One of them is the
execution of Jesus Christ.

1276
01:11:13,569 --> 01:11:15,114
Forgive me, but
you're a believer,

1277
01:11:15,138 --> 01:11:16,470
are you not?

1278
01:11:16,606 --> 01:11:17,767
A Bible-believing Christian?

1279
01:11:17,907 --> 01:11:19,375
Guilty as charged.

1280
01:11:19,475 --> 01:11:22,104
So, wouldn't this tend
to inflate your estimate

1281
01:11:22,245 --> 01:11:24,942
of the probability
that Jesus existed.

1282
01:11:25,081 --> 01:11:27,380
No, because we
don't need to inflate it.

1283
01:11:27,483 --> 01:11:30,749
We can reconstruct the
basic facts about Jesus

1284
01:11:30,887 --> 01:11:34,915
just from non-Christian
sources outside the Bible.

1285
01:11:35,024 --> 01:11:37,789
And Gerd Ludemann is an atheist.

1286
01:11:37,927 --> 01:11:41,295
In other words, we can
prove the existence of Jesus

1287
01:11:41,430 --> 01:11:43,956
solely by using sources
that have absolutely

1288
01:11:44,100 --> 01:11:46,433
no sympathy toward Christianity.

1289
01:11:46,569 --> 01:11:49,562
As the agnostic historian,
Bart Ehrman, says,

1290
01:11:49,672 --> 01:11:53,905
"Jesus did exist,
whether we like it or not."

1291
01:11:54,010 --> 01:11:56,104
I put it this way:

1292
01:11:56,212 --> 01:11:59,808
Denying the existence of
Jesus doesn't make him go away.

1293
01:11:59,949 --> 01:12:04,148
It merely proves that no amount
of evidence will convince you.

1294
01:12:04,287 --> 01:12:05,812
Thank you.

1295
01:12:05,955 --> 01:12:08,823
No further questions,
Your Honor.

1296
01:12:08,958 --> 01:12:12,087
Mr. Kane, your witness.

1297
01:12:12,195 --> 01:12:14,323
No questions, Your Honor.

1298
01:12:14,463 --> 01:12:15,761
That's lunch.

1299
01:12:15,865 --> 01:12:18,266
We'll recess until 2 p.m.

1300
01:12:26,876 --> 01:12:28,777
Can I help you with something?

1301
01:12:28,878 --> 01:12:30,642
Oh, hi.

1302
01:12:30,746 --> 01:12:33,545
I was looking for Pastor Dave.

1303
01:12:33,683 --> 01:12:37,643
My friend, Mina, she said
I should come see him.

1304
01:12:37,787 --> 01:12:40,621
She said he's
real easy to talk to.

1305
01:12:40,723 --> 01:12:42,624
He won't be back
until after next week.

1306
01:12:42,725 --> 01:12:44,819
Oh, okay. Thanks.

1307
01:12:44,961 --> 01:12:48,261
Sweeping is something
I only do part-time.

1308
01:12:48,364 --> 01:12:51,163
I enjoy it because
it helps me think.

1309
01:12:51,300 --> 01:12:56,000
But if you need to talk,
I'm actually a pastor.

1310
01:12:58,241 --> 01:13:02,508
It's been 3 weeks
since my doctors told me

1311
01:13:02,645 --> 01:13:04,045
I was in remission.

1312
01:13:04,180 --> 01:13:05,791
Oh, Amy, that's wonderful.

1313
01:13:05,815 --> 01:13:06,815
It is.

1314
01:13:06,849 --> 01:13:08,511
Yes.

1315
01:13:08,618 --> 01:13:13,488
But even though I've
been given this gift,

1316
01:13:13,589 --> 01:13:17,651
I've been questioning my faith.

1317
01:13:17,760 --> 01:13:22,698
I know Jesus existed, but
I'm struggling to believe.

1318
01:13:22,832 --> 01:13:25,392
Actually, I think you
already do believe,

1319
01:13:25,534 --> 01:13:27,799
and the proof is you're
not willing to put God

1320
01:13:27,904 --> 01:13:31,033
back on the shelf now
that your cancer is gone.

1321
01:13:31,140 --> 01:13:34,668
He won't let you dismiss
the thought of him.

1322
01:13:34,777 --> 01:13:36,905
Part of you senses
Jesus' presence

1323
01:13:37,046 --> 01:13:41,177
and wishes that he would just
go away and leave you alone.

1324
01:13:41,284 --> 01:13:43,776
Actually, now
that you mention it,

1325
01:13:43,920 --> 01:13:46,048
I had thought of that.

1326
01:13:46,188 --> 01:13:51,286
Look, he delights in using us
in ways we never dreamed of

1327
01:13:51,427 --> 01:13:55,364
and giving us things that we
never even knew we wanted.

1328
01:13:55,464 --> 01:13:58,559
We just have to
give him a chance.

1329
01:13:58,668 --> 01:14:00,660
Will you?

1330
01:14:05,775 --> 01:14:07,744
Thank you.

1331
01:14:13,215 --> 01:14:15,309
Hi, I'm Reverend David Hill.

1332
01:14:15,451 --> 01:14:17,443
Sermon transcripts, right?

1333
01:14:17,586 --> 01:14:19,054
- Yes.
- Just put it right there.

1334
01:14:19,155 --> 01:14:21,386
They've been
coming in all morning.

1335
01:14:23,159 --> 01:14:27,221
I'm sure they did what
they thought was best.

1336
01:14:31,300 --> 01:14:33,064
That's it?

1337
01:14:33,169 --> 01:14:36,571
Those are your entire
sermons for the past 120 days?

1338
01:14:36,672 --> 01:14:38,368
No, that's a letter that I wrote

1339
01:14:38,474 --> 01:14:41,638
explaining why I'm not
going to hand them in.

1340
01:14:41,777 --> 01:14:43,871
Excuse me?

1341
01:14:43,980 --> 01:14:45,744
I know it's unusual
for a Christian pastor

1342
01:14:45,848 --> 01:14:47,476
to willfully resist a subpoena

1343
01:14:47,616 --> 01:14:50,279
issued by a lawful
government authority,

1344
01:14:50,386 --> 01:14:51,752
and it's even more unusual

1345
01:14:51,854 --> 01:14:54,915
that he should feel
compelled to do so.

1346
01:14:55,024 --> 01:14:58,859
Are you sure you wanna do that?

1347
01:14:58,995 --> 01:15:01,658
It's something
that I have to do.

1348
01:15:01,797 --> 01:15:03,442
You know the old saying,
"The squeaky wheel

1349
01:15:03,466 --> 01:15:05,492
gets the grease," don't you?

1350
01:15:05,634 --> 01:15:07,603
I have another saying:

1351
01:15:07,703 --> 01:15:12,232
"A nail that sticks up
gets hammered down."

1352
01:15:40,903 --> 01:15:43,134
Susan, what I'm seeing
is a teacher who answered

1353
01:15:43,239 --> 01:15:45,299
a student's question
to the best of her ability.

1354
01:15:45,408 --> 01:15:46,985
Amy, it sounds like
you're taking the side

1355
01:15:47,009 --> 01:15:48,307
of Grace Wesley here.

1356
01:15:48,411 --> 01:15:50,539
Surely, you see that she
used the student's question

1357
01:15:50,679 --> 01:15:52,375
to promote her Christian agenda.

1358
01:15:52,515 --> 01:15:54,507
Actually, Susan,
that's not how I see it.

1359
01:15:54,617 --> 01:15:57,143
I believe Ms. Wesley's
entitled to her own opinions,

1360
01:15:57,253 --> 01:15:59,017
and that includes
in the classroom.

1361
01:15:59,121 --> 01:16:01,647
She didn't try to convert
these students, in fact...

1362
01:16:01,757 --> 01:16:04,022
Amy, I must say, I'm
shocked at what seems to be

1363
01:16:04,126 --> 01:16:07,654
a complete 180 from the
typical stance of your plot.

1364
01:16:07,763 --> 01:16:09,857
Just look at the facts
of this case for a minute.

1365
01:16:09,965 --> 01:16:13,231
She clearly infringed on
the rights of her students.

1366
01:16:13,369 --> 01:16:15,167
Marlene?

1367
01:16:15,271 --> 01:16:16,762
I have an idea.

1368
01:16:16,906 --> 01:16:18,306
Come over as soon
as you can, okay?

1369
01:16:21,410 --> 01:16:22,708
You look terrible.

1370
01:16:22,845 --> 01:16:24,256
You really ought to
ask to be excused.

1371
01:16:24,280 --> 01:16:25,543
No, no, I'm fine.

1372
01:16:25,681 --> 01:16:27,946
I really need to be here.

1373
01:16:28,084 --> 01:16:30,053
All rise.

1374
01:16:32,655 --> 01:16:36,183
You may be seated.

1375
01:16:36,292 --> 01:16:38,236
Juror number 12, is there
something you'd like to say?

1376
01:16:38,260 --> 01:16:41,059
I'm sorry, Your
Honor, I gotta...

1377
01:16:42,598 --> 01:16:43,896
Bailiff, call paramedics.

1378
01:16:44,033 --> 01:16:45,695
Sir.

1379
01:16:45,801 --> 01:16:47,479
Well, I guess that
proves there is no God,

1380
01:16:47,503 --> 01:16:48,903
'cause they just
lost the only juror

1381
01:16:48,938 --> 01:16:50,201
they could count on.

1382
01:16:53,409 --> 01:16:54,775
Any dizziness?

1383
01:16:54,910 --> 01:16:56,674
- Yeah.
- Vomiting?

1384
01:16:56,779 --> 01:16:58,077
About a half hour ago.

1385
01:16:58,214 --> 01:16:59,454
Does this hurt? How 'bout this?

1386
01:17:01,050 --> 01:17:02,160
I hope you're not too attached

1387
01:17:02,184 --> 01:17:03,184
to your appendix.

1388
01:17:27,443 --> 01:17:29,605
Brooke! Marlene.

1389
01:17:31,780 --> 01:17:33,646
It's not looking good in there.

1390
01:18:02,211 --> 01:18:04,476
Ms. Marshall, are
you prepared to fulfill

1391
01:18:04,613 --> 01:18:06,172
your duties as an alternate?

1392
01:18:06,315 --> 01:18:08,307
Yes, I am, Your Honor.

1393
01:18:08,417 --> 01:18:10,352
Mr. Endler, next witness.

1394
01:18:10,486 --> 01:18:13,149
Would you state your name
and experience for the record?

1395
01:18:13,255 --> 01:18:14,883
My name is James Warner Wallace.

1396
01:18:15,024 --> 01:18:17,755
I'm a retired homicide detective
from Los Angeles County.

1397
01:18:17,860 --> 01:18:20,295
And are you the author of the
book, "Cold Case Christianity"?

1398
01:18:20,396 --> 01:18:21,989
Yes, I am.

1399
01:18:22,131 --> 01:18:24,794
Can you share the subtitle of
the book with the court, please?

1400
01:18:24,900 --> 01:18:26,266
"A Homicide Detective

1401
01:18:26,368 --> 01:18:27,928
Investigates the
Claims of the Gospels."

1402
01:18:28,003 --> 01:18:29,323
Would I be correct in saying

1403
01:18:29,405 --> 01:18:31,636
that your duties as
a homicide detective

1404
01:18:31,740 --> 01:18:33,868
include investigating
cold case homicides?

1405
01:18:34,009 --> 01:18:36,444
Yes, that is and
was my expertise.

1406
01:18:36,545 --> 01:18:39,606
Don't most of those cases
get solved with DNA evidence?

1407
01:18:39,715 --> 01:18:41,240
Objection, leading.

1408
01:18:41,383 --> 01:18:43,409
And counsel is testifying
again, Your Honor.

1409
01:18:43,552 --> 01:18:44,850
I'll rephrase.

1410
01:18:44,954 --> 01:18:47,583
How many of your
cold cases were solved

1411
01:18:47,723 --> 01:18:49,521
through the use of DNA evidence?

1412
01:18:49,658 --> 01:18:51,217
None. Not one.

1413
01:18:51,360 --> 01:18:52,794
That's often popular on TV,

1414
01:18:52,895 --> 01:18:54,506
but our departments
never had the good fortune

1415
01:18:54,530 --> 01:18:56,590
of solving a cold case with DNA.

1416
01:18:56,732 --> 01:18:58,894
Well, how do most of
these cases get solved?

1417
01:18:59,034 --> 01:19:01,026
Often by examining
eyewitness claims,

1418
01:19:01,170 --> 01:19:03,298
witness claims that were
made many years earlier,

1419
01:19:03,405 --> 01:19:06,273
even though often our
witnesses are now deceased.

1420
01:19:06,408 --> 01:19:07,886
Forgive my
ignorance, Mr. Wallace,

1421
01:19:07,910 --> 01:19:09,879
but how is that possible?

1422
01:19:09,979 --> 01:19:11,845
Well, we have a number
of techniques we can use

1423
01:19:11,947 --> 01:19:13,547
to test the reliability
of an eyewitness,

1424
01:19:13,649 --> 01:19:16,949
including something called
forensic statement analysis.

1425
01:19:17,086 --> 01:19:18,563
That's a discipline where
we scrutinize the statements

1426
01:19:18,587 --> 01:19:19,953
of eyewitnesses

1427
01:19:20,089 --> 01:19:21,733
and looking at what
they choose to minimize,

1428
01:19:21,757 --> 01:19:24,090
what they choose to emphasize,
what they omit altogether,

1429
01:19:24,226 --> 01:19:26,695
how they expand
time or contract time.

1430
01:19:26,795 --> 01:19:29,321
And when we examine these
kinds of eyewitness accounts,

1431
01:19:29,431 --> 01:19:31,991
we can usually tell who's
lying, and who's telling the truth,

1432
01:19:32,101 --> 01:19:34,297
and even who
the guilty party is.

1433
01:19:34,436 --> 01:19:36,337
And did you apply
this skill set anytime

1434
01:19:36,438 --> 01:19:38,339
outside of your
official capacity?

1435
01:19:38,440 --> 01:19:41,535
Yes, I applied my expertise
to the death of Jesus

1436
01:19:41,644 --> 01:19:42,976
at the hands of the Romans,

1437
01:19:43,112 --> 01:19:45,172
and I actually
looked at the gospels

1438
01:19:45,281 --> 01:19:48,445
as I would any other set
of forensic statements.

1439
01:19:48,584 --> 01:19:49,882
Within a matter of months,

1440
01:19:49,985 --> 01:19:51,544
I determined that
the four gospels,

1441
01:19:51,654 --> 01:19:53,213
written from
different perspectives,

1442
01:19:53,322 --> 01:19:56,417
contained the eyewitness
accounts about the life,

1443
01:19:56,525 --> 01:19:59,154
ministry, death, and
resurrection of Jesus.

1444
01:19:59,295 --> 01:20:01,106
And did you consider
that the four accounts

1445
01:20:01,130 --> 01:20:03,565
might be part of a conspiracy,

1446
01:20:03,666 --> 01:20:06,158
designed to promote
belief in a fledgling faith?

1447
01:20:06,302 --> 01:20:07,679
Yeah, you have to
consider conspiracies

1448
01:20:07,703 --> 01:20:09,535
when assessing
eyewitness accounts,

1449
01:20:09,638 --> 01:20:11,072
but successful conspiracies

1450
01:20:11,173 --> 01:20:13,938
typically involve the
fewest number of people.

1451
01:20:14,043 --> 01:20:16,203
It's a lot easier for 2 people
to lie and keep a secret

1452
01:20:16,312 --> 01:20:17,974
than it is for 20.

1453
01:20:18,113 --> 01:20:19,958
And that's really the problem
with the conspiracy theories

1454
01:20:19,982 --> 01:20:21,780
related to the apostles
in the 1st century.

1455
01:20:21,917 --> 01:20:23,408
There are just far
too many of them

1456
01:20:23,519 --> 01:20:24,851
trying to hold this conspiracy

1457
01:20:24,987 --> 01:20:26,307
for far too long
a period of time.

1458
01:20:26,388 --> 01:20:27,913
And far worse,

1459
01:20:28,023 --> 01:20:30,424
they're experiencing
pressure like no other,

1460
01:20:30,526 --> 01:20:31,892
unimaginable pressure.

1461
01:20:31,994 --> 01:20:34,691
Every one of these folks
was tortured and died

1462
01:20:34,830 --> 01:20:36,162
for what they claimed to see,

1463
01:20:36,298 --> 01:20:39,097
and none of them ever
recanted their story.

1464
01:20:39,201 --> 01:20:42,694
So, the idea that this is a
conspiracy in the 1st century

1465
01:20:42,838 --> 01:20:44,363
is just really unreasonable.

1466
01:20:44,506 --> 01:20:46,099
Instead, what I
see in the gospels

1467
01:20:46,208 --> 01:20:49,474
is something I call unintended
eyewitness support statement.

1468
01:20:49,578 --> 01:20:52,013
What's an unintended
eyewitness support statement?

1469
01:20:52,147 --> 01:20:54,013
If I can borrow your Bible?

1470
01:20:58,087 --> 01:21:00,886
Let me go to the
Gospel of Matthew

1471
01:21:01,023 --> 01:21:02,150
for an example of this.

1472
01:21:02,291 --> 01:21:03,816
I'll start with a passage

1473
01:21:03,926 --> 01:21:06,521
in which Jesus is in front
of Caiaphas at a hearing.

1474
01:21:06,662 --> 01:21:08,597
It says here, "Then
they spit in his face

1475
01:21:08,697 --> 01:21:10,495
"and struck him
with their fists.

1476
01:21:10,632 --> 01:21:12,032
"Others slapped him and said,

1477
01:21:12,167 --> 01:21:14,466
'Prophesy to us,
Christ. Who hit you? ""

1478
01:21:14,570 --> 01:21:16,250
Now, that seems like
a very simple request,

1479
01:21:16,372 --> 01:21:17,670
given that the
people who hit him

1480
01:21:17,773 --> 01:21:18,917
are standing right
in front of him.

1481
01:21:18,941 --> 01:21:20,500
This makes no sense.

1482
01:21:20,642 --> 01:21:23,305
Why would it be prophecy to
be able to tell you who hit you?

1483
01:21:23,412 --> 01:21:26,109
But it's not until you read Luke
that you get an answer to this.

1484
01:21:26,215 --> 01:21:28,912
He says, "The men
who were guarding Jesus

1485
01:21:29,051 --> 01:21:31,077
"began mocking and beating him.

1486
01:21:31,220 --> 01:21:33,086
"They blindfolded
him and demanded,

1487
01:21:33,222 --> 01:21:34,520
'Prophesy, who hit you? ""

1488
01:21:34,623 --> 01:21:36,615
So, now we know why
this was a challenge,

1489
01:21:36,725 --> 01:21:38,703
'cause Luke tells us the
thing that Matthew left out,

1490
01:21:38,727 --> 01:21:41,039
that he was actually blindfolded
at the time this took place.

1491
01:21:41,063 --> 01:21:42,497
This is very common,

1492
01:21:42,598 --> 01:21:44,567
this kind of unintentional
eyewitness support

1493
01:21:44,700 --> 01:21:47,932
that fills in a detail that
the first witness left out.

1494
01:21:48,070 --> 01:21:50,699
After years of scrutinizing
these gospels using the template

1495
01:21:50,839 --> 01:21:53,570
that I use to determine if
an eyewitness is reliable,

1496
01:21:53,709 --> 01:21:56,338
I concluded that the
four gospels in this book

1497
01:21:56,445 --> 01:22:00,712
contained the reliable accounts
of the actual words of Jesus.

1498
01:22:02,818 --> 01:22:04,548
And that's to include
the statements

1499
01:22:04,686 --> 01:22:06,712
quoted by Ms.
Wesley in her class?

1500
01:22:06,855 --> 01:22:11,156
Absolutely.

1501
01:22:11,260 --> 01:22:13,889
Thank you, Detective.

1502
01:22:13,996 --> 01:22:17,398
Your witness.

1503
01:22:17,533 --> 01:22:19,661
Detective Wallace,

1504
01:22:19,768 --> 01:22:24,638
I'm not gonna try to match
biblical knowledge with you.

1505
01:22:24,773 --> 01:22:28,266
But isn't it true that these
gospel accounts vary widely

1506
01:22:28,410 --> 01:22:29,901
in what they say,

1507
01:22:30,012 --> 01:22:31,289
that there are
numerous discrepancies

1508
01:22:31,313 --> 01:22:33,145
between these accounts?

1509
01:22:33,282 --> 01:22:37,276
Absolutely, but that's exactly
what we should expect.

1510
01:22:37,419 --> 01:22:39,581
I don't quite understand that.

1511
01:22:39,721 --> 01:22:41,132
Well, reliable eyewitness
accounts always differ slightly

1512
01:22:41,156 --> 01:22:42,300
in the way they
recall the story.

1513
01:22:42,324 --> 01:22:43,917
They're coming to it

1514
01:22:44,059 --> 01:22:45,437
from different geographic
perspectives, their history,

1515
01:22:45,461 --> 01:22:47,089
even where they are
located in the room.

1516
01:22:47,229 --> 01:22:49,425
When I examined the gospels,
I was trying to determine

1517
01:22:49,531 --> 01:22:51,625
if these were accurate,
reliable accounts,

1518
01:22:51,767 --> 01:22:53,360
in spite of any differences

1519
01:22:53,469 --> 01:22:55,529
there might be
between the accounts.

1520
01:22:55,637 --> 01:22:58,630
Ah, and as a devout Christian,

1521
01:22:58,774 --> 01:23:00,265
you feel you succeeded?

1522
01:23:00,409 --> 01:23:01,934
Ah, Mr. Kane.

1523
01:23:02,077 --> 01:23:03,545
I think you misunderstand me.

1524
01:23:03,645 --> 01:23:06,410
When I began this study,
I was a devout atheist.

1525
01:23:06,515 --> 01:23:09,679
I began examining the
gospels as a committed skeptic,

1526
01:23:09,818 --> 01:23:11,912
not as a believer.

1527
01:23:12,020 --> 01:23:14,512
You see, I wasn't raised
in a Christian environment,

1528
01:23:14,656 --> 01:23:16,750
although I do think I have
an unusually high regard

1529
01:23:16,859 --> 01:23:18,384
for the value of evidence.

1530
01:23:18,494 --> 01:23:20,414
I'm not a Christian because
I was raised that way

1531
01:23:20,496 --> 01:23:22,727
or because I hoped it
would satisfy some need

1532
01:23:22,831 --> 01:23:24,663
or accomplish some goal.

1533
01:23:24,800 --> 01:23:28,259
I'm simply a Christian
because it's evidentially true.

1534
01:23:31,540 --> 01:23:33,133
Motion to strike, Your Honor.

1535
01:23:33,275 --> 01:23:35,039
Granted.

1536
01:23:35,177 --> 01:23:39,205
Jury's instructed to ignore
Detective Wallace's last remark.

1537
01:23:39,348 --> 01:23:41,249
No further questions.

1538
01:23:41,350 --> 01:23:43,114
Witness is excused.

1539
01:23:43,218 --> 01:23:44,982
Thank you, Your Honor.

1540
01:23:50,559 --> 01:23:52,857
Mr. Endler, your next witness.

1541
01:23:52,995 --> 01:23:56,124
We don't have one, Your Honor.

1542
01:23:56,231 --> 01:23:58,631
She didn't do anything wrong;
she was just trying to help me!

1543
01:23:58,667 --> 01:24:00,465
Brooke!

1544
01:24:00,569 --> 01:24:02,128
Order! I'll have order!

1545
01:24:02,237 --> 01:24:04,468
Young lady, your
youth is no excuse

1546
01:24:04,573 --> 01:24:07,202
for disturbing the
sanctity of this court.

1547
01:24:07,342 --> 01:24:09,311
But this case is
supposed to be about me.

1548
01:24:09,411 --> 01:24:10,936
I'm almost 17 years old;

1549
01:24:11,046 --> 01:24:12,490
it's not like I can't
think for myself.

1550
01:24:12,514 --> 01:24:14,244
I just don't have
the right to speak.

1551
01:24:14,383 --> 01:24:16,494
- Brooke, what are you doing?
- Not unless you are called

1552
01:24:16,518 --> 01:24:18,043
as a witness, young lady.

1553
01:24:18,186 --> 01:24:20,815
If I put her on the stand,
what am I gonna hear?

1554
01:24:20,923 --> 01:24:23,051
That she asked a
question and I answered it.

1555
01:24:25,594 --> 01:24:28,689
Your Honor, we'd like to call
Ms. Brooke Thawley to the stand.

1556
01:24:28,797 --> 01:24:30,197
Objection, Your Honor!

1557
01:24:30,299 --> 01:24:31,892
Ms. Thawley is a minor.

1558
01:24:32,034 --> 01:24:33,935
Her parents do not
want her subjected

1559
01:24:34,069 --> 01:24:35,537
to the emotional pressure

1560
01:24:35,637 --> 01:24:38,106
of testifying against
her own teacher.

1561
01:24:38,240 --> 01:24:42,439
Ms. Thawley, are you willing
to testify on your own behalf?

1562
01:24:42,578 --> 01:24:43,807
Yes, Your Honor.

1563
01:24:43,912 --> 01:24:45,023
And do you understand

1564
01:24:45,047 --> 01:24:46,208
that you will have to answer

1565
01:24:46,348 --> 01:24:47,492
all the questions truthfully,

1566
01:24:47,516 --> 01:24:49,348
regardless of your feelings,

1567
01:24:49,451 --> 01:24:53,718
and that failure to do
so is punishable by law?

1568
01:24:53,855 --> 01:24:55,016
Yes, Your Honor.

1569
01:24:55,123 --> 01:24:56,557
I'm not afraid of
telling the truth.

1570
01:24:56,658 --> 01:25:00,060
I'm only afraid of not
being able to tell it.

1571
01:25:02,764 --> 01:25:07,031
♪♪♪

1572
01:25:12,140 --> 01:25:14,905
I will allow this witness.

1573
01:25:15,043 --> 01:25:17,877
Objection overruled.

1574
01:25:22,184 --> 01:25:25,177
Brooke, in class,

1575
01:25:25,287 --> 01:25:26,915
who first brought
up the name "Jesus,"

1576
01:25:27,022 --> 01:25:28,354
you or Ms. Wesley?

1577
01:25:28,457 --> 01:25:29,755
I did.

1578
01:25:29,891 --> 01:25:31,291
As part of a question?

1579
01:25:31,426 --> 01:25:32,758
Yes.

1580
01:25:32,861 --> 01:25:34,591
And at that time,

1581
01:25:34,730 --> 01:25:37,495
did you feel like you were
asking a faith-based question?

1582
01:25:37,633 --> 01:25:39,101
No, not really.

1583
01:25:39,201 --> 01:25:41,329
It just seemed like Martin
Luther King and Jesus

1584
01:25:41,470 --> 01:25:44,736
were saying similar
things, so I brought it up.

1585
01:25:44,840 --> 01:25:46,809
And did you consider
Ms. Wesley's response

1586
01:25:46,942 --> 01:25:49,969
to be a reasonable
answer to your question?

1587
01:25:50,112 --> 01:25:51,705
Yes.

1588
01:25:51,813 --> 01:25:54,214
So, if I'm hearing
you correctly,

1589
01:25:54,316 --> 01:26:00,256
you asked a question in history
class about a historical figure,

1590
01:26:00,355 --> 01:26:02,654
and your history
teacher answered it

1591
01:26:02,791 --> 01:26:03,815
in a sensible manner?

1592
01:26:03,959 --> 01:26:05,928
Yes.

1593
01:26:08,263 --> 01:26:10,892
Thank you.

1594
01:26:10,999 --> 01:26:13,195
Your witness.

1595
01:26:22,344 --> 01:26:26,179
Ms. Thawley, do
you like Ms. Wesley?

1596
01:26:26,314 --> 01:26:27,907
Yes.

1597
01:26:28,016 --> 01:26:30,178
Would you say she's
your favorite teacher?

1598
01:26:30,318 --> 01:26:32,014
Yes, absolutely.

1599
01:26:32,154 --> 01:26:33,884
Do you think Ms.
Wesley likes you?

1600
01:26:34,022 --> 01:26:36,253
Objection, speculative.

1601
01:26:36,358 --> 01:26:39,351
Your Honor, speaks to the
state of mind of the witness,

1602
01:26:39,494 --> 01:26:41,156
if not Ms. Wesley herself.

1603
01:26:41,263 --> 01:26:43,164
I'm gonna allow it. Overruled.

1604
01:26:43,298 --> 01:26:45,858
You may answer the question.

1605
01:26:46,001 --> 01:26:47,833
Yes, I think she likes me.

1606
01:26:47,969 --> 01:26:49,335
Uh-huh.

1607
01:26:49,471 --> 01:26:50,848
Do you think
there's any possibility

1608
01:26:50,872 --> 01:26:53,501
that in answering your question,

1609
01:26:53,642 --> 01:26:58,444
she may have tried to share
some of the ideas of her faith,

1610
01:26:58,547 --> 01:27:00,880
a faith that she
holds most dear?

1611
01:27:01,016 --> 01:27:03,315
No, uh, no, not at that moment.

1612
01:27:03,418 --> 01:27:05,478
Not at that moment.

1613
01:27:05,587 --> 01:27:07,347
You mean to say that
there were other moments

1614
01:27:07,422 --> 01:27:10,483
in which she talked
to you about her faith?

1615
01:27:13,095 --> 01:27:16,497
Hmm? Ms. Thawley, please?

1616
01:27:16,598 --> 01:27:19,659
You must answer the
question, Ms. Thawley.

1617
01:27:22,404 --> 01:27:24,737
Yes, but it was
outside of school

1618
01:27:24,873 --> 01:27:26,239
and it was only one time.

1619
01:27:26,374 --> 01:27:28,434
Move to strike. Your
Honor, this is irrelevant.

1620
01:27:28,577 --> 01:27:30,978
No actions off the school
campus are at issue here.

1621
01:27:31,079 --> 01:27:32,513
Denied.

1622
01:27:32,614 --> 01:27:34,378
Mr. Kane seems to
have found a loose thread.

1623
01:27:34,516 --> 01:27:36,508
I'm inclined to let him pull it.

1624
01:27:36,618 --> 01:27:38,553
See what unravels.

1625
01:27:38,687 --> 01:27:39,916
Thank you, Your Honor.

1626
01:27:40,055 --> 01:27:41,614
Why didn't you
tell me about this?

1627
01:27:41,757 --> 01:27:45,216
You didn't ask, and I
didn't think it mattered.

1628
01:27:45,360 --> 01:27:48,558
Brooke, you realize that
you have to tell the truth here.

1629
01:27:48,663 --> 01:27:49,858
You understand that, correct?

1630
01:27:49,965 --> 01:27:51,399
Yes.

1631
01:27:51,533 --> 01:27:53,229
So, what did you
mean when you said

1632
01:27:53,335 --> 01:27:58,706
that you had talks about
faith outside of school?

1633
01:28:01,209 --> 01:28:06,944
My brother died in an
accident 6 months ago.

1634
01:28:07,082 --> 01:28:09,415
Ms. Wesley noticed
that I wasn't doing so well,

1635
01:28:09,551 --> 01:28:12,453
so she asked me if everything
was all right after class.

1636
01:28:12,587 --> 01:28:13,384
Mm-hmm.

1637
01:28:13,488 --> 01:28:15,047
I told her I was fine,

1638
01:28:15,157 --> 01:28:18,525
but I went and found her
later on at the coffee shop.

1639
01:28:18,627 --> 01:28:20,994
And did Ms. Wesley refer you

1640
01:28:21,129 --> 01:28:25,464
to any kind of
psychological counseling?

1641
01:28:25,600 --> 01:28:27,535
No.

1642
01:28:27,636 --> 01:28:30,299
Did she suggest that perhaps

1643
01:28:30,438 --> 01:28:31,565
she wasn't the right person

1644
01:28:31,673 --> 01:28:35,075
to be discussing this with you?

1645
01:28:35,177 --> 01:28:36,907
No.

1646
01:28:37,012 --> 01:28:39,072
Well, then what
did Ms. Wesley do?

1647
01:28:39,181 --> 01:28:40,979
She was really nice.

1648
01:28:41,116 --> 01:28:42,607
We talked for a long time

1649
01:28:42,717 --> 01:28:45,983
and I could tell that
she really cared.

1650
01:28:46,121 --> 01:28:47,749
Mm.

1651
01:28:47,856 --> 01:28:49,825
I asked her how she
kept it all together so well,

1652
01:28:49,958 --> 01:28:51,824
and she said, "Jesus."

1653
01:28:51,960 --> 01:28:54,555
So, she's the one
who brought up Jesus?

1654
01:28:54,663 --> 01:28:56,757
Did her endorsement of Jesus

1655
01:28:56,865 --> 01:28:59,391
move you to
explore Christianity?

1656
01:28:59,501 --> 01:29:01,197
Yes, at first.

1657
01:29:01,336 --> 01:29:06,673
But when the Salvation Army
came to pick up my brother's things,

1658
01:29:06,808 --> 01:29:12,679
one of the ladies found his
Bible, and she gave it to me.

1659
01:29:12,814 --> 01:29:14,908
I didn't even know
that he had one.

1660
01:29:15,016 --> 01:29:16,450
Mm.

1661
01:29:16,551 --> 01:29:19,988
So, I started reading
it, and once I started,

1662
01:29:20,121 --> 01:29:25,287
I realized that I
didn't wanna stop.

1663
01:29:25,393 --> 01:29:27,157
That's why.

1664
01:29:27,262 --> 01:29:30,892
That's why I came up with the
question that I asked in class.

1665
01:29:31,032 --> 01:29:33,627
Now, if I understand
you correctly,

1666
01:29:33,735 --> 01:29:37,137
without Ms. Wesley's
direct involvement,

1667
01:29:37,239 --> 01:29:39,640
you never would've asked
that question in the first place,

1668
01:29:39,741 --> 01:29:41,676
would you?

1669
01:29:41,810 --> 01:29:43,335
I don't know.

1670
01:29:43,478 --> 01:29:47,006
After all of your
Bible readings,

1671
01:29:47,148 --> 01:29:52,849
do you feel now that
you're a believer?

1672
01:29:52,988 --> 01:29:54,854
Yes.

1673
01:29:54,990 --> 01:30:00,725
Maybe even a Christian?

1674
01:30:00,862 --> 01:30:04,196
Yes.

1675
01:30:04,299 --> 01:30:06,393
At the risk of
seeming redundant,

1676
01:30:06,534 --> 01:30:09,060
do you think any of
this, the Bible readings,

1677
01:30:09,204 --> 01:30:13,005
the question about
Jesus in class,

1678
01:30:13,108 --> 01:30:15,668
the newfound
commitment to Christianity,

1679
01:30:15,777 --> 01:30:19,179
is it likely that any of
that would've occurred

1680
01:30:19,281 --> 01:30:24,310
without Ms. Wesley's
direct involvement?

1681
01:30:24,419 --> 01:30:28,720
No, it wouldn't.

1682
01:30:28,857 --> 01:30:32,259
I thank you for your honesty.

1683
01:30:32,394 --> 01:30:34,761
No further questions,
Your Honor.

1684
01:30:34,896 --> 01:30:38,196
Mr. Endler, do you
wish to redirect?

1685
01:30:38,300 --> 01:30:40,769
No, Your Honor.

1686
01:30:40,902 --> 01:30:43,770
You may step down, Ms. Thawley.

1687
01:30:45,240 --> 01:30:48,677
♪♪♪

1688
01:30:56,651 --> 01:30:58,051
♪♪♪

1689
01:30:58,153 --> 01:31:00,452
Why do they look so angry?

1690
01:31:00,588 --> 01:31:02,420
Because they think
we lied to them.

1691
01:31:02,557 --> 01:31:05,823
But we didn't.

1692
01:31:05,961 --> 01:31:08,487
It doesn't matter.

1693
01:31:08,630 --> 01:31:10,724
This court is adjourned.

1694
01:31:17,405 --> 01:31:20,136
I have to prepare you, Grace.

1695
01:31:20,275 --> 01:31:24,906
We're gonna lose this case.

1696
01:31:25,013 --> 01:31:27,915
I know.

1697
01:31:28,016 --> 01:31:30,144
You were right.

1698
01:31:30,285 --> 01:31:35,383
I'm gonna lose everything.

1699
01:31:53,508 --> 01:31:55,219
We saw a very
large crowd out here

1700
01:31:55,243 --> 01:31:56,802
at the courthouse yesterday,

1701
01:31:56,945 --> 01:31:59,881
both in protest and support
of teacher Grace Wesley,

1702
01:32:00,015 --> 01:32:03,417
who is on trial for allegedly
proselytizing at the classroom.

1703
01:32:03,518 --> 01:32:05,180
Now, in an unexpected
move yesterday,

1704
01:32:05,320 --> 01:32:06,948
we saw some of
Wesley's former students

1705
01:32:07,055 --> 01:32:11,686
come out to silently demonstrate
their support for their teacher.

1706
01:32:25,240 --> 01:32:28,972
Oh Father, please
take this from me.

1707
01:32:33,081 --> 01:32:38,486
I don't know what to do.

1708
01:32:38,586 --> 01:32:42,353
Please don't forsake me.

1709
01:32:42,490 --> 01:32:45,392
Please.

1710
01:32:56,037 --> 01:32:58,506
♪♪♪

1711
01:33:06,047 --> 01:33:07,413
♪♪♪

1712
01:33:11,786 --> 01:33:13,311
Hey, Brooke.

1713
01:33:13,421 --> 01:33:15,686
I ruined everything, didn't I?

1714
01:33:15,790 --> 01:33:18,191
It's okay, you don't
have to answer.

1715
01:33:18,293 --> 01:33:20,819
I know that I did.

1716
01:33:20,929 --> 01:33:23,398
I'm not even
allowed to talk to her.

1717
01:33:23,531 --> 01:33:25,159
How do I let her
know that I'm sorry

1718
01:33:25,266 --> 01:33:26,666
without making things worse?

1719
01:33:26,768 --> 01:33:28,930
I can't tell you what to do,

1720
01:33:29,070 --> 01:33:35,374
but whatever you do,
just let her know you care.

1721
01:33:40,081 --> 01:33:41,709
Recently, when
I've been praying,

1722
01:33:41,816 --> 01:33:44,411
it's like Jesus isn't letting
me feel his presence.

1723
01:33:44,552 --> 01:33:47,249
Usually I can almost
reach out and touch him,

1724
01:33:47,388 --> 01:33:55,388
but right now it's like
he's a million miles away.

1725
01:33:55,597 --> 01:34:00,058
Honey, you of all
people should realize

1726
01:34:00,168 --> 01:34:02,899
when you're going through
something really hard,

1727
01:34:03,004 --> 01:34:08,307
the teacher is always
quiet during the test.

1728
01:34:27,896 --> 01:34:32,630
♪ Oh Lord my God ♪

1729
01:34:32,767 --> 01:34:38,570
♪ When I in awesome wonder ♪

1730
01:34:38,673 --> 01:34:46,673
♪ Consider all the worlds
thy hands have made ♪

1731
01:34:50,051 --> 01:34:54,819
♪ I see the stars ♪

1732
01:34:54,923 --> 01:35:00,590
♪ I hear the rolling thunder ♪

1733
01:35:00,695 --> 01:35:08,695
♪ Thy power throughout
the universe displayed ♪

1734
01:35:11,873 --> 01:35:19,873
♪ Then sings my soul,
my Savior God, to thee ♪

1735
01:35:23,184 --> 01:35:27,383
♪ How great thou art ♪

1736
01:35:28,756 --> 01:35:34,320
♪ How great thou art ♪

1737
01:35:34,429 --> 01:35:42,429
♪ Then sings my soul,
my Savior God, to thee ♪

1738
01:35:45,773 --> 01:35:51,576
♪ How great thou art ♪

1739
01:35:51,713 --> 01:35:57,414
♪ How great thou art ♪

1740
01:36:03,758 --> 01:36:04,918
First of all,

1741
01:36:04,959 --> 01:36:06,655
this trial took an
unexpected turn

1742
01:36:06,761 --> 01:36:09,390
when Wesley's counsel
decided they'd try to prove

1743
01:36:09,530 --> 01:36:12,090
the existence of Jesus.

1744
01:36:12,233 --> 01:36:14,395
Gary, this is kind of
your area of expertise.

1745
01:36:14,502 --> 01:36:16,937
How do you
convince the skeptics?

1746
01:36:17,071 --> 01:36:20,940
Well, Governor, I employ what
I call the minimal facts method,

1747
01:36:21,075 --> 01:36:23,476
which uses only
the historical events

1748
01:36:23,611 --> 01:36:25,375
that are so well evidenced

1749
01:36:25,480 --> 01:36:27,449
that they're accepted
across the board,

1750
01:36:27,582 --> 01:36:30,575
even by skeptical and
non-Christian scholars.

1751
01:36:30,718 --> 01:36:31,845
As a result, we...

1752
01:36:31,953 --> 01:36:33,251
Now I understand what it is

1753
01:36:33,388 --> 01:36:35,289
you weren't
allowed to talk about.

1754
01:36:35,423 --> 01:36:38,882
I wish I still wasn't
allowed to talk about it.

1755
01:36:38,993 --> 01:36:41,292
She needs me on that jury.

1756
01:36:41,429 --> 01:36:42,897
Have faith, David.

1757
01:36:42,997 --> 01:36:44,932
God's plan is at work.

1758
01:36:45,066 --> 01:36:46,864
How'd you get here anyway?

1759
01:36:46,968 --> 01:36:47,978
I borrowed your Prius.

1760
01:36:48,002 --> 01:36:49,527
It's very nice.

1761
01:36:49,637 --> 01:36:50,748
Don't get too comfortable.

1762
01:36:50,772 --> 01:36:52,741
I'm planning a full recovery.

1763
01:36:52,840 --> 01:36:54,240
So, Rice, do you believe

1764
01:36:54,342 --> 01:36:55,653
that she was proselytizing
to her students?

1765
01:36:55,677 --> 01:36:57,077
Governor, not at all.

1766
01:36:57,178 --> 01:36:59,443
Jesus Christ was the
most influential person

1767
01:36:59,547 --> 01:37:01,106
who ever lived.

1768
01:37:01,249 --> 01:37:03,169
How could you ignore
that fact and teach history?

1769
01:37:04,319 --> 01:37:05,651
I think the real problem is...

1770
01:37:05,787 --> 01:37:07,415
Hey, Martin!

1771
01:37:07,522 --> 01:37:08,888
More questions?

1772
01:37:08,990 --> 01:37:10,501
I wanted to make sure
that you were okay.

1773
01:37:10,525 --> 01:37:12,118
Yeah, I'm fine.

1774
01:37:12,226 --> 01:37:14,104
They're just holding me
over for a little observation.

1775
01:37:14,128 --> 01:37:16,563
I'll be released soon.

1776
01:37:16,664 --> 01:37:18,257
Something different about you.

1777
01:37:18,366 --> 01:37:19,766
Are you okay?

1778
01:37:19,867 --> 01:37:21,460
I should say so.

1779
01:37:21,602 --> 01:37:23,594
Yes.

1780
01:37:23,705 --> 01:37:25,469
I believe God wants
me to be a minister,

1781
01:37:25,606 --> 01:37:27,734
to return to my country
and become a pastor,

1782
01:37:27,842 --> 01:37:29,105
just like you.

1783
01:37:29,210 --> 01:37:30,678
That's great.

1784
01:37:30,812 --> 01:37:32,940
There'll be challenges
in your country.

1785
01:37:33,047 --> 01:37:35,516
Are you prepared for them?

1786
01:37:37,018 --> 01:37:38,987
I am.

1787
01:37:41,122 --> 01:37:42,522
I'm proud of you.

1788
01:37:42,657 --> 01:37:44,023
Come here.

1789
01:37:47,362 --> 01:37:48,728
That's awesome.

1790
01:37:48,863 --> 01:37:50,274
It's a shocking reality

1791
01:37:50,298 --> 01:37:51,675
that Christians are
soon gonna be forced

1792
01:37:51,699 --> 01:37:53,565
to choose between
obeying the law of man

1793
01:37:53,701 --> 01:37:55,932
or following the Word of God.

1794
01:37:56,037 --> 01:37:57,505
I'm Mike Huckabee.

1795
01:37:57,638 --> 01:37:59,368
We'll see you next
time on "Point of View."

1796
01:38:13,287 --> 01:38:15,813
♪♪♪

1797
01:38:23,297 --> 01:38:25,698
♪♪♪

1798
01:38:27,869 --> 01:38:29,380
Hey Brooke, why don't
you go be with Ms. Wesley.

1799
01:38:29,404 --> 01:38:31,202
I think we can handle this.

1800
01:38:31,305 --> 01:38:33,283
Yeah, seriously, we've
got backup coming.

1801
01:38:33,307 --> 01:38:36,175
You're covered.

1802
01:38:38,513 --> 01:38:40,072
Go get 'em.

1803
01:38:44,786 --> 01:38:47,312
God's got this.

1804
01:38:47,422 --> 01:38:50,051
♪♪♪

1805
01:39:16,651 --> 01:39:18,916
Where's Tom?

1806
01:39:23,891 --> 01:39:26,884
All rise.

1807
01:39:33,734 --> 01:39:35,896
Be seated.

1808
01:39:42,210 --> 01:39:43,644
Are we missing someone?

1809
01:39:49,317 --> 01:39:50,945
Sorry, Your Honor.

1810
01:39:51,085 --> 01:39:52,917
My apologies to the court.

1811
01:39:57,325 --> 01:39:59,191
That's unexpected.

1812
01:39:59,327 --> 01:40:01,489
He almost looks like a lawyer.

1813
01:40:01,629 --> 01:40:06,124
Your Honor, I have
one final witness to call.

1814
01:40:06,267 --> 01:40:09,362
Grace Wesley.

1815
01:40:09,504 --> 01:40:11,063
Ms. Wesley, please

1816
01:40:11,172 --> 01:40:13,471
approach the witness stand.

1817
01:40:13,574 --> 01:40:15,475
Do I have to?

1818
01:40:15,610 --> 01:40:17,579
I'm afraid so.

1819
01:40:22,183 --> 01:40:24,812
Your Honor, given the
witness's reluctance to testify,

1820
01:40:24,952 --> 01:40:26,730
can I have the court's
permission to treat her

1821
01:40:26,754 --> 01:40:28,086
as a hostile witness?

1822
01:40:28,189 --> 01:40:32,524
You may. Proceed
at your own peril.

1823
01:40:35,663 --> 01:40:37,841
Do you swear to tell
the truth, the whole truth,

1824
01:40:37,865 --> 01:40:38,958
and nothing but the truth?

1825
01:40:39,066 --> 01:40:40,159
I do.

1826
01:40:40,301 --> 01:40:41,667
Please be seated.

1827
01:40:47,208 --> 01:40:49,473
Grace, I want you to
do something for me,

1828
01:40:49,577 --> 01:40:52,308
something for everyone
in this courtroom.

1829
01:40:52,413 --> 01:40:54,507
I want you to apologize.

1830
01:40:54,649 --> 01:40:57,380
I want you to say you're sorry
and that you made a mistake.

1831
01:40:57,518 --> 01:40:58,798
Your Honor, what's
going on here?

1832
01:40:58,853 --> 01:41:01,220
Do it, Grace.

1833
01:41:01,355 --> 01:41:02,846
I can't do that.

1834
01:41:02,957 --> 01:41:04,892
Why? Why can't
you do that, Grace?

1835
01:41:05,026 --> 01:41:07,518
Because I don't believe
I did anything wrong.

1836
01:41:07,628 --> 01:41:11,156
Well, as your attorney, I'm
advising you to do it anyway.

1837
01:41:11,265 --> 01:41:12,995
To at least pretend
that you're sorry

1838
01:41:13,100 --> 01:41:15,399
and throw yourself on
the mercy of the court.

1839
01:41:15,536 --> 01:41:16,560
What?

1840
01:41:16,704 --> 01:41:18,070
That would be a lie.

1841
01:41:18,205 --> 01:41:19,503
So what?

1842
01:41:19,607 --> 01:41:20,939
Everyone lies.

1843
01:41:21,075 --> 01:41:22,509
Not everyone.

1844
01:41:22,610 --> 01:41:25,079
Are you looking to
become a martyr?

1845
01:41:25,212 --> 01:41:27,044
What in the world is he doing?

1846
01:41:27,181 --> 01:41:28,706
I have no idea.

1847
01:41:28,816 --> 01:41:29,816
No.

1848
01:41:29,850 --> 01:41:31,216
Tommy...

1849
01:41:31,352 --> 01:41:33,048
Then what is it that
you want, Grace?

1850
01:41:33,154 --> 01:41:36,352
Tell me. Tell us.

1851
01:41:36,457 --> 01:41:37,857
I want...

1852
01:41:39,927 --> 01:41:42,897
I want to be able
to tell the truth.

1853
01:41:43,030 --> 01:41:45,431
The truth?

1854
01:41:45,566 --> 01:41:46,898
Whose truth?

1855
01:41:47,034 --> 01:41:50,527
And what truth are
you referring to?

1856
01:41:50,638 --> 01:41:55,406
Grace, is there some truth that
you know that no one else knows?

1857
01:41:57,511 --> 01:41:58,877
Oh, that's right.

1858
01:41:58,980 --> 01:42:00,573
The other night,

1859
01:42:00,681 --> 01:42:04,243
didn't you tell me that Jesus
spoke to you personally?

1860
01:42:04,352 --> 01:42:05,843
Why are you doing this?

1861
01:42:05,953 --> 01:42:07,564
I'm the one asking the
questions, Ms. Wesley.

1862
01:42:07,588 --> 01:42:09,079
Did you or did you not tell me

1863
01:42:09,190 --> 01:42:13,252
that Jesus spoke
to you personally?

1864
01:42:13,361 --> 01:42:15,796
Yes.

1865
01:42:15,930 --> 01:42:18,229
And what did he say?

1866
01:42:18,332 --> 01:42:20,096
I'll make it easier for you.

1867
01:42:20,234 --> 01:42:22,794
Didn't you say that he
asked you a question?

1868
01:42:22,937 --> 01:42:24,648
That was personal. You
weren't supposed to...

1869
01:42:24,672 --> 01:42:26,300
I don't care.

1870
01:42:26,440 --> 01:42:28,619
The other night, you told me
that Jesus asked you something.

1871
01:42:28,643 --> 01:42:30,271
What did he ask you, Grace?

1872
01:42:30,378 --> 01:42:31,812
Tell all of us.

1873
01:42:31,946 --> 01:42:33,312
I think we deserve to know.

1874
01:42:33,447 --> 01:42:35,040
Why are you doing this to me?

1875
01:42:35,149 --> 01:42:36,549
Answer the question.

1876
01:42:36,651 --> 01:42:38,210
They won't believe me.

1877
01:42:38,319 --> 01:42:40,254
Doesn't matter.

1878
01:42:40,354 --> 01:42:45,452
All that matters is
that you believe it.

1879
01:42:45,593 --> 01:42:48,722
Tell us, Grace, under
penalty of perjury,

1880
01:42:48,829 --> 01:42:51,765
what was the question that
God presented to you personally

1881
01:42:51,866 --> 01:42:55,325
that night on campus?

1882
01:42:55,469 --> 01:42:57,802
Answer the question.

1883
01:42:59,940 --> 01:43:02,102
Answer the question!

1884
01:43:08,582 --> 01:43:15,284
He asked, "Who do
you say that I am?"

1885
01:43:17,391 --> 01:43:21,954
And what did you answer?

1886
01:43:22,063 --> 01:43:27,263
You are the Christ, the
Son of the living God.

1887
01:43:31,205 --> 01:43:33,868
Well, there you have it.

1888
01:43:34,008 --> 01:43:36,876
Your Honor, I think we've
all heard quite enough.

1889
01:43:37,011 --> 01:43:38,445
Mr. Endler,

1890
01:43:38,546 --> 01:43:40,879
are you looking to
change your client's plea?

1891
01:43:41,015 --> 01:43:42,813
No, Your Honor.

1892
01:43:42,917 --> 01:43:45,045
I say she's innocent
of all wrongdoing.

1893
01:43:45,186 --> 01:43:48,384
But I'm asking the jury to
find against her anyway.

1894
01:43:48,522 --> 01:43:50,184
I mean, let's, let's face it.

1895
01:43:50,324 --> 01:43:54,284
She has the audacity to believe
not only that there is a God,

1896
01:43:54,395 --> 01:43:56,830
but that she has a personal
relationship with Him,

1897
01:43:56,931 --> 01:44:00,368
which colors everything
that she says and does.

1898
01:44:00,468 --> 01:44:02,068
I think it's time that
we stop pretending

1899
01:44:02,103 --> 01:44:04,163
that we can trust
a person like this

1900
01:44:04,271 --> 01:44:06,331
to serve in a public capacity.

1901
01:44:06,440 --> 01:44:09,899
In the name of tolerance and
diversity, I say we destroy her.

1902
01:44:10,044 --> 01:44:11,421
That's enough, Mr. Endler.

1903
01:44:11,445 --> 01:44:13,175
Then we can all go
to our graves content,

1904
01:44:13,280 --> 01:44:15,340
knowing that we stomped
out the last spark of faith

1905
01:44:15,449 --> 01:44:17,209
that was ever exhibited
in the public square.

1906
01:44:18,352 --> 01:44:19,696
That's enough, Mr. Endler.

1907
01:44:19,720 --> 01:44:20,764
I say we make an example of her.

1908
01:44:20,788 --> 01:44:22,586
Mr. Endler, that's enough.

1909
01:44:22,723 --> 01:44:24,214
Let's set a new precedent,

1910
01:44:24,325 --> 01:44:26,954
that employment by our
federal government mandates

1911
01:44:27,094 --> 01:44:29,723
that you must first denounce
any belief system you have.

1912
01:44:29,864 --> 01:44:31,608
Mr. Endler that is enough!
You are out of order.

1913
01:44:31,632 --> 01:44:33,362
And if someone slips
through the cracks

1914
01:44:33,467 --> 01:44:37,768
and hides their beliefs, then
we arrest them and fine them.

1915
01:44:37,905 --> 01:44:39,883
And if they don't pay,
then we seize their property.

1916
01:44:39,907 --> 01:44:41,205
And if they resist...

1917
01:44:42,710 --> 01:44:44,042
Well, let's not kid ourselves.

1918
01:44:44,145 --> 01:44:46,011
Enforcement is always
at the end of a gun.

1919
01:44:46,113 --> 01:44:47,958
Mr. Endler, you
are out of order.

1920
01:44:47,982 --> 01:44:49,314
I charge you with contempt!

1921
01:44:49,450 --> 01:44:51,078
I accept the charge,

1922
01:44:51,218 --> 01:44:53,744
because I have nothing but
contempt for these proceedings.

1923
01:44:53,888 --> 01:44:56,756
If we're going to insist that
a Christian's right to believe

1924
01:44:56,891 --> 01:44:58,689
is subordinate
to all other rights,

1925
01:44:58,793 --> 01:45:00,955
then it's not a right.

1926
01:45:01,095 --> 01:45:03,690
Somebody is always
going to be offended.

1927
01:45:03,798 --> 01:45:06,666
Two thousand years of
human history proves that.

1928
01:45:06,801 --> 01:45:08,463
So, I say we get on with it.

1929
01:45:08,602 --> 01:45:11,936
Cite the law, charge the jury,
and send them off to deliberate.

1930
01:45:12,039 --> 01:45:14,031
So be it!

1931
01:45:17,878 --> 01:45:21,440
Now, we are gonna bypass
the usual closing arguments,

1932
01:45:21,549 --> 01:45:24,951
unless Mr. Kane finds the
need to further address the jury.

1933
01:45:25,085 --> 01:45:26,951
No, Your Honor.

1934
01:45:27,087 --> 01:45:29,386
We can ask nothing more.

1935
01:45:29,490 --> 01:45:33,393
My Instructions
to you are simple.

1936
01:45:33,494 --> 01:45:37,795
Uphold the law without
unfairly prejudicing your decision

1937
01:45:37,932 --> 01:45:42,495
or risking a mistrial on appeal.

1938
01:45:42,636 --> 01:45:48,507
Now, I believe I can safely say
that the respondent's counsel

1939
01:45:48,642 --> 01:45:53,740
has dared you to
convict his own client.

1940
01:45:57,685 --> 01:46:01,486
The jury will now be
dismissed for deliberation.

1941
01:46:01,622 --> 01:46:04,751
We are adjourned.

1942
01:46:11,065 --> 01:46:13,432
She hasn't got a prayer.

1943
01:46:13,534 --> 01:46:14,832
Let's go.

1944
01:46:18,205 --> 01:46:20,902
Remind me to send
him a thank-you note.

1945
01:46:35,890 --> 01:46:38,792
♪♪♪

1946
01:46:45,900 --> 01:46:48,301
♪♪♪

1947
01:46:55,910 --> 01:46:57,970
♪♪♪

1948
01:47:05,920 --> 01:47:08,355
♪♪♪

1949
01:47:26,473 --> 01:47:28,271
Thank you so much.
Thank you, guys.

1950
01:47:28,409 --> 01:47:29,741
Thanks for coming out.

1951
01:47:29,877 --> 01:47:31,778
Hey, right now on the phone,

1952
01:47:31,912 --> 01:47:33,904
a friend of mine named
Amy is on the line,

1953
01:47:34,048 --> 01:47:38,611
and she's calling about a
woman who's on trial for her faith.

1954
01:47:38,752 --> 01:47:43,156
This woman has risked
everything for Jesus.

1955
01:47:43,290 --> 01:47:45,816
Amy's asked me to
pray for this woman.

1956
01:47:45,960 --> 01:47:47,929
Will you guys join me?

1957
01:47:48,028 --> 01:47:51,226
Lord, we know that
to risk anything for you

1958
01:47:51,332 --> 01:47:55,463
is a complete honor
with eternal rewards.

1959
01:47:55,602 --> 01:47:57,571
But if it's within your will,

1960
01:47:57,671 --> 01:48:01,802
can you please restore
this woman's hope

1961
01:48:01,942 --> 01:48:07,108
and make her faith
an example to all of us?

1962
01:48:07,247 --> 01:48:10,376
Lord, show your
power to a fallen world.

1963
01:48:10,484 --> 01:48:15,320
We know you have the
power to do anything.

1964
01:48:15,456 --> 01:48:19,325
So, we ask you right now,
crying out as the body of Christ,

1965
01:48:19,460 --> 01:48:21,258
move those hearts
of those people,

1966
01:48:21,362 --> 01:48:23,331
both the judge and the jury,

1967
01:48:23,464 --> 01:48:27,834
to let them know the
beauty of your majesty.

1968
01:48:27,968 --> 01:48:31,837
And we all said amen.

1969
01:48:31,972 --> 01:48:33,235
Amen.

1970
01:48:40,114 --> 01:48:42,310
♪♪♪

1971
01:48:50,124 --> 01:48:52,457
♪♪♪

1972
01:49:00,100 --> 01:49:02,194
♪♪♪

1973
01:49:04,571 --> 01:49:06,282
Ladies and
gentlemen of the jury,

1974
01:49:06,306 --> 01:49:08,275
have you reached a decision?

1975
01:49:09,676 --> 01:49:11,645
We have, Your Honor.

1976
01:49:16,083 --> 01:49:18,985
And how do you find?

1977
01:49:24,458 --> 01:49:30,227
We, the jury, find in
favor of Grace Wesley.

1978
01:49:34,068 --> 01:49:42,068
♪♪♪

1979
01:49:48,048 --> 01:49:50,517
We are adjourned.

1980
01:50:01,695 --> 01:50:03,493
Nice shoes.

1981
01:50:03,597 --> 01:50:06,897
♪♪♪

1982
01:50:13,607 --> 01:50:16,372
♪♪♪

1983
01:50:23,617 --> 01:50:24,949
♪♪♪

1984
01:50:25,085 --> 01:50:28,613
Grace, I'm sorry.

1985
01:50:28,755 --> 01:50:29,779
I couldn't tell you.

1986
01:50:29,923 --> 01:50:31,687
It had to come as a surprise,

1987
01:50:31,792 --> 01:50:34,455
otherwise the jury wouldn't have
been swayed by your reactions.

1988
01:50:34,595 --> 01:50:38,396
So, you did have a plan.

1989
01:50:38,499 --> 01:50:41,958
No, you did.

1990
01:50:42,102 --> 01:50:43,627
You stood up for
what you believed in

1991
01:50:43,770 --> 01:50:45,705
and you held on to your faith.

1992
01:50:45,806 --> 01:50:48,970
I don't know anybody
that would have done that.

1993
01:50:49,109 --> 01:50:51,738
They were hoping to
make an example of you,

1994
01:50:51,845 --> 01:50:57,944
but instead you
became an inspiration.

1995
01:50:58,085 --> 01:51:00,054
We did it!

1996
01:51:00,154 --> 01:51:03,249
Hey, you've kept
quiet long enough.

1997
01:51:03,357 --> 01:51:06,759
Why don't you go
share the good news?

1998
01:51:09,530 --> 01:51:14,992
Hey, thank you.

1999
01:51:15,135 --> 01:51:17,434
Yeah.

2000
01:51:18,405 --> 01:51:21,773
♪♪♪

2001
01:51:26,413 --> 01:51:29,542
♪ When did it become
breaking a rule ♪

2002
01:51:29,683 --> 01:51:33,313
♪ To say your name
out loud in school ♪

2003
01:51:33,453 --> 01:51:40,485
♪ When your name's the
only one that sets us free ♪

2004
01:51:40,627 --> 01:51:44,029
♪ When did it become incorrect ♪

2005
01:51:44,164 --> 01:51:47,828
♪ To speak the truth
about life and death ♪

2006
01:51:47,968 --> 01:51:54,033
♪ When your life
gave us all eternity ♪

2007
01:51:54,174 --> 01:51:57,576
♪ Even if it gets me convicted ♪

2008
01:51:57,711 --> 01:52:02,547
♪ I'll be on my knees
with my hands lifted ♪

2009
01:52:02,683 --> 01:52:04,174
God's not dead!

2010
01:52:04,318 --> 01:52:06,514
♪ If serving you's
against the law of man ♪

2011
01:52:06,620 --> 01:52:11,615
♪ If living out my
faith in you is banned ♪

2012
01:52:11,725 --> 01:52:17,631
♪ Then I'll stand
right before the jury ♪

2013
01:52:17,731 --> 01:52:21,031
♪ If saying I believe
is out of line ♪

2014
01:52:21,168 --> 01:52:26,232
♪ If it's just cause I'm
gonna give my life ♪

2015
01:52:26,373 --> 01:52:31,835
♪ To show the world
the love that fills me ♪

2016
01:52:31,945 --> 01:52:33,743
♪ Then I want to be guilty ♪

2017
01:52:33,880 --> 01:52:35,960
A case that was
turning for the worse

2018
01:52:36,016 --> 01:52:37,746
was concluded with a
powerful happy ending

2019
01:52:37,884 --> 01:52:39,409
for Ms. Grace Wesley.

2020
01:52:39,553 --> 01:52:41,522
Live outside the courthouse
here in Hope Springs.

2021
01:52:41,622 --> 01:52:43,090
Father. You did it!

2022
01:52:43,223 --> 01:52:45,283
Ha ha ha ha ha!

2023
01:52:45,425 --> 01:52:47,690
God is good.

2024
01:52:47,794 --> 01:52:49,126
The verdict is in.

2025
01:52:49,263 --> 01:52:50,573
Whoa, whoa, whoa,
wait. I want to hear this.

2026
01:52:50,597 --> 01:52:51,895
In the case of
Thawley v. Wesley,

2027
01:52:52,032 --> 01:52:53,898
they have ruled in
favor of Grace Wesley.

2028
01:52:54,034 --> 01:52:56,902
The crowd is in full celebration
here in Hope Springs.

2029
01:52:57,004 --> 01:53:00,236
So are you gonna
say it, or should I?

2030
01:53:00,340 --> 01:53:01,808
Say what?

2031
01:53:01,942 --> 01:53:03,570
God is good.

2032
01:53:03,710 --> 01:53:05,201
All the time.

2033
01:53:05,312 --> 01:53:06,610
And all the time.

2034
01:53:06,747 --> 01:53:08,079
God is good.

2035
01:53:08,181 --> 01:53:09,444
Amen, brother.

2036
01:53:09,583 --> 01:53:11,916
♪♪♪

2037
01:53:12,052 --> 01:53:15,853
♪ Show the world
the love that fills me ♪

2038
01:53:15,956 --> 01:53:17,447
♪ Love that fills me ♪

2039
01:53:17,591 --> 01:53:21,687
♪ Then I want to be
guilty by association ♪

2040
01:53:21,795 --> 01:53:26,597
♪ Guilty of being a voice
proclaiming your ways ♪

2041
01:53:26,700 --> 01:53:28,931
♪ Your truth, your life ♪

2042
01:53:29,069 --> 01:53:35,168
♪ I'll pay the price
to be your light ♪

2043
01:53:37,744 --> 01:53:39,007
I'll get to work on the appeal.

2044
01:53:39,146 --> 01:53:40,637
Don't bother.

2045
01:53:40,781 --> 01:53:42,750
If we appeal and lose,
it'll set a precedent.

2046
01:53:42,849 --> 01:53:44,442
I don't want that.

2047
01:53:44,584 --> 01:53:45,984
I don't understand
how we lost this.

2048
01:53:46,086 --> 01:53:47,349
He outsmarted us.

2049
01:53:47,487 --> 01:53:50,924
He played our role
in attacking Wesley.

2050
01:53:51,024 --> 01:53:53,459
He made the jury
hate everyone, but her.

2051
01:53:53,593 --> 01:53:58,122
Not to mention he proved
the existence of Jesus Christ.

2052
01:54:12,512 --> 01:54:15,346
God's not dead!
He's surely alive!

2053
01:54:15,482 --> 01:54:18,145
God's not dead!
He's surely alive!

2054
01:54:18,251 --> 01:54:21,278
God's not dead!
He's surely alive!

2055
01:54:21,388 --> 01:54:24,051
God's not dead!
He's surely alive!

2056
01:54:24,191 --> 01:54:27,161
God's not dead!
He's surely alive!

2057
01:54:27,260 --> 01:54:30,162
God's not dead!
He's surely alive!

2058
01:54:30,297 --> 01:54:33,461
God's not dead!
He's surely alive!

2059
01:54:33,567 --> 01:54:36,799
♪ My God's not dead,
he's surely alive ♪

2060
01:54:36,903 --> 01:54:40,670
♪ He's living on the
inside, roaring like a lion ♪

2061
01:54:40,807 --> 01:54:43,777
♪ God's not dead,
he's surely alive ♪

2062
01:54:43,877 --> 01:54:48,474
♪ He's living on the
inside, roaring like a lion ♪

2063
01:54:48,582 --> 01:54:50,016
♪ He's roaring ♪

2064
01:54:50,150 --> 01:54:51,846
♪ He's roaring... ♪

2065
01:54:51,985 --> 01:54:56,184
♪ He's roaring like a lion ♪

2066
01:54:56,289 --> 01:55:03,560
♪ Let hope arise and
make the darkness hide ♪

2067
01:55:03,697 --> 01:55:11,697
♪ My faith is dead, I need
a resurrection somehow ♪

2068
01:55:12,305 --> 01:55:19,303
♪ Now I'm lost in your freedom ♪

2069
01:55:19,413 --> 01:55:24,875
♪ In this world, I'll overcome ♪

2070
01:55:24,985 --> 01:55:28,217
♪ My God's not dead,
he's surely alive ♪

2071
01:55:28,355 --> 01:55:32,554
♪ He's living on the
inside, roaring like a lion ♪

2072
01:55:32,692 --> 01:55:35,685
♪ My God's not dead,
he's surely alive ♪

2073
01:55:35,796 --> 01:55:40,063
♪ He's living on the
inside, roaring like a lion ♪

2074
01:55:40,200 --> 01:55:43,170
♪ God's not dead,
he's surely alive ♪

2075
01:55:43,270 --> 01:55:47,401
♪ He's living on the
inside, roaring like a lion ♪

2076
01:55:47,541 --> 01:55:50,443
♪ God's not dead,
he's surely alive ♪

2077
01:55:50,577 --> 01:55:53,411
♪ He's living on the
inside, roaring like a lion ♪

2078
01:55:53,547 --> 01:55:56,574
♪ He's roaring... ♪

2079
01:55:56,716 --> 01:55:58,207
♪ He's roaring ♪

2080
01:55:58,318 --> 01:56:02,050
♪ He's roaring like a lion ♪

2081
01:56:02,155 --> 01:56:03,783
♪ He's roaring... ♪

2082
01:56:03,924 --> 01:56:05,392
♪ He's roaring ♪

2083
01:56:05,492 --> 01:56:07,757
♪ He's roaring like a lion ♪

2084
01:56:07,861 --> 01:56:10,797
♪ He's roaring like a lion. ♪

2085
01:56:22,108 --> 01:56:24,600
♪♪♪

2086
01:56:34,254 --> 01:56:37,019
♪ You're not everybody's
expectations ♪

2087
01:56:37,157 --> 01:56:39,786
♪ You're not just the
cards you're dealt ♪

2088
01:56:39,926 --> 01:56:42,794
♪ You aren't a product
of your generation ♪

2089
01:56:42,896 --> 01:56:45,593
♪ You are what
you make yourself ♪

2090
01:56:45,699 --> 01:56:51,468
♪ Take all that
you're afraid to say ♪

2091
01:56:51,605 --> 01:56:57,340
♪ Post it up and
put it on display ♪

2092
01:56:57,477 --> 01:56:59,571
♪ You don't have
to play nice now ♪

2093
01:56:59,679 --> 01:57:03,116
♪ Stay held down, shut
up, and keep it quiet ♪

2094
01:57:03,216 --> 01:57:06,778
♪ Don't have to take the easy
way out, follow the in-crowd ♪

2095
01:57:06,887 --> 01:57:09,584
♪ Stand up and make a riot ♪

2096
01:57:09,689 --> 01:57:12,318
♪ Nothing's gonna
change if you won't ♪

2097
01:57:12,459 --> 01:57:15,019
♪ No, nothing's gonna
change if you don't ♪

2098
01:57:15,161 --> 01:57:19,531
♪ It'll be the hardest thing
you'll ever have to do ♪

2099
01:57:19,666 --> 01:57:24,195
♪ But don't let
them silence you ♪

2100
01:57:25,038 --> 01:57:28,202
♪♪♪

2101
01:57:33,079 --> 01:57:35,548
♪ When you look
back on this moment ♪

2102
01:57:35,682 --> 01:57:38,550
♪ You'll have wished
you'd spoken your mind ♪

2103
01:57:38,685 --> 01:57:41,450
♪ Step up to the
plate and own it ♪

2104
01:57:41,555 --> 01:57:44,115
♪ Instead of blending
in the sidelines ♪

2105
01:57:44,224 --> 01:57:49,856
♪ Take all that
you're afraid to be ♪

2106
01:57:49,996 --> 01:57:55,833
♪ Light it up for
everyone to see ♪

2107
01:57:55,936 --> 01:57:57,837
♪ You don't have
to play nice now ♪

2108
01:57:57,938 --> 01:58:01,534
♪ Stay held down, shut
up, and keep it quiet ♪

2109
01:58:01,675 --> 01:58:05,203
♪ Don't have to take the easy
way out, follow the in-crowd ♪

2110
01:58:05,345 --> 01:58:08,144
♪ Stand up and make a riot ♪

2111
01:58:08,248 --> 01:58:10,911
♪ Nothing's gonna
change if you won't ♪

2112
01:58:11,051 --> 01:58:13,680
♪ No, nothing's gonna
change if you don't ♪

2113
01:58:13,787 --> 01:58:18,157
♪ It'll be the hardest thing
you'll ever have to do ♪

2114
01:58:18,258 --> 01:58:22,320
♪ But don't let
them silence you ♪

2115
01:58:25,098 --> 01:58:30,537
♪ And when we're
gone, our words live on ♪

2116
01:58:30,637 --> 01:58:34,005
♪ So, don't let them
silence, silence ♪

2117
01:58:34,107 --> 01:58:37,077
♪ No, you won't ♪

2118
01:58:37,210 --> 01:58:38,906
♪ You don't have
to play nice now ♪

2119
01:58:39,012 --> 01:58:42,449
♪ Stay held down, shut
up, and keep it quiet ♪

2120
01:58:42,582 --> 01:58:46,075
♪ Don't have to take the easy
way out, follow the in-crowd ♪

2121
01:58:46,219 --> 01:58:49,155
♪ Stand up and make a riot ♪

2122
01:58:49,289 --> 01:58:51,884
♪ Nothing's gonna
change if you won't ♪

2123
01:58:51,992 --> 01:58:54,689
♪ No, nothing's gonna
change if you don't ♪

2124
01:58:54,794 --> 01:58:59,027
♪ It'll be the hardest thing
you'll ever have to do ♪

2125
01:58:59,132 --> 01:59:03,695
♪ But don't let
them silence you ♪

2126
01:59:11,244 --> 01:59:16,239
♪ No, don't let
them silence you. ♪

2127
01:59:16,349 --> 01:59:18,109
You know I'm gonna
need my keys back.

2128
01:59:18,151 --> 01:59:19,744
I know.

2129
01:59:19,853 --> 01:59:22,254
Two days of ice
chips. I'm starving.

2130
01:59:23,657 --> 01:59:25,057
I'm hungry as well, David.

2131
01:59:25,158 --> 01:59:27,627
How about I take you
for a nice tuna melt?

2132
01:59:27,761 --> 01:59:29,423
David Hill?

2133
01:59:29,529 --> 01:59:32,294
Yes?

2134
01:59:32,432 --> 01:59:34,594
You're under arrest.

2135
01:59:34,701 --> 01:59:35,760
For what?

2136
01:59:35,869 --> 01:59:37,462
Contempt of court.

2137
01:59:37,604 --> 01:59:39,644
You failed to produce your
sermons upon court order.

2138
01:59:39,673 --> 01:59:41,183
Please put your hands
behind your back.

2139
01:59:41,207 --> 01:59:42,607
Please be gentle.

2140
01:59:42,709 --> 01:59:44,439
He has just been
released from the hospital.

2141
01:59:44,544 --> 01:59:45,568
I don't understand.

2142
01:59:45,679 --> 01:59:47,272
What is he being accused of?

2143
01:59:47,380 --> 01:59:49,158
You have the right
to remain silent.

2144
01:59:49,182 --> 01:59:51,102
Anything you say can and
will be used against you

2145
01:59:51,184 --> 01:59:53,483
in a court of law. You
have a right to an attorney.

2146
01:59:53,620 --> 01:59:54,664
If you cannot
afford an attorney,

2147
01:59:54,688 --> 01:59:56,156
one will be provided for you.

2148
01:59:56,289 --> 01:59:58,369
Do you understand the
rights I have just read to you?

2149
01:59:58,491 --> 01:59:59,857
Yes.

2150
02:00:07,067 --> 02:00:08,558
Sorry about this, Pastor.

2151
02:00:08,702 --> 02:00:10,671
It's okay.

2152
02:00:10,770 --> 02:00:11,981
Looks like I'm gonna
need you to fill in for me

2153
02:00:12,005 --> 02:00:13,303
a little while longer.

2154
02:00:13,406 --> 02:00:16,035
Of course, David,
anything you need.

2155
02:00:21,347 --> 02:00:22,645
What do we do now?

2156
02:00:22,749 --> 02:00:24,377
Same as always, Martin.

2157
02:00:24,517 --> 02:00:28,648
We pray, in faith.