1 00:00:35,717 --> 00:00:37,360 Look at her smile, see, like... 2 00:00:37,436 --> 00:00:40,600 - her dimples stick out. - The Lord is my shepherd. 3 00:00:40,677 --> 00:00:41,400 Know what I mean? 4 00:00:41,477 --> 00:00:44,319 I shall not want. 5 00:00:44,396 --> 00:00:47,477 He makes me lie down in green pastures. 6 00:00:48,877 --> 00:00:51,396 He leads me beside still waters. 7 00:00:52,756 --> 00:00:54,316 He restores my soul. 8 00:00:55,757 --> 00:00:59,717 He leads me in paths of righteousness for his name's... 9 00:01:09,236 --> 00:01:11,320 The story of Cheryl Dempsey and what she became... 10 00:01:11,397 --> 00:01:14,160 is truly one of the strangest, most disturbing things... 11 00:01:14,237 --> 00:01:18,156 I've ever come across in the history of serial murder. 12 00:01:19,477 --> 00:01:23,157 I've been doing this for close to 25 years now. 13 00:02:51,796 --> 00:02:53,840 I had a tenant in this house here... 14 00:02:53,916 --> 00:02:56,356 who was a very terrible person. 15 00:02:57,316 --> 00:03:00,119 This is the house where they found the Poughkeepsie tapes. 16 00:03:00,196 --> 00:03:02,039 Before we got our hands on the Poughkeepsie tapes, 17 00:03:02,116 --> 00:03:03,679 we thought... 18 00:03:03,756 --> 00:03:05,039 Well, we knew there had been some killings... 19 00:03:05,116 --> 00:03:06,839 and we were aware that some of them appeared... 20 00:03:06,916 --> 00:03:08,759 as though they were being carried out... 21 00:03:08,836 --> 00:03:10,239 in an organized fashion, 22 00:03:10,316 --> 00:03:12,999 but until we got our hands on those tapes, 23 00:03:13,076 --> 00:03:16,317 we had no idea what we were dealing with. 24 00:03:18,036 --> 00:03:19,000 No idea. 25 00:03:19,077 --> 00:03:22,080 It was my job to watch and log all 2,400 hours... 26 00:03:22,156 --> 00:03:23,640 of the Poughkeepsie tapes. 27 00:03:23,717 --> 00:03:24,680 In the first month alone, 28 00:03:24,756 --> 00:03:28,079 I couldn't sleep for more than an hour or two at night. 29 00:03:28,156 --> 00:03:29,719 I still have nightmares about them. 30 00:03:29,796 --> 00:03:33,600 I think torturing and murdering turn him on. 31 00:03:33,676 --> 00:03:36,039 And I think these tapes are something... 32 00:03:36,116 --> 00:03:39,160 of a homemade porn film or a memento... 33 00:03:39,237 --> 00:03:41,840 that he can savor long after the murder. 34 00:03:41,916 --> 00:03:43,120 He has definitely stalled... 35 00:03:43,197 --> 00:03:46,917 halfway through many a killing to switch tapes. 36 00:03:48,397 --> 00:03:49,960 I remember one night, 37 00:03:50,037 --> 00:03:51,840 I brought some of the tapes home with me... 38 00:03:51,916 --> 00:03:55,560 to keep working, and unbeknownst to me, 39 00:03:55,636 --> 00:03:58,959 my wife watched about half an hour of one of the tapes... 40 00:03:59,036 --> 00:04:02,996 and it took her a year before she let me touch her again. 41 00:04:05,557 --> 00:04:07,836 That's what's on those tapes. 42 00:04:08,756 --> 00:04:11,275 They found the tapes in this closet. 43 00:04:13,196 --> 00:04:15,037 And down here, you know. 44 00:04:17,236 --> 00:04:20,840 When we searched the yard we found the bodies of two women... 45 00:04:20,917 --> 00:04:22,236 there, and there. 46 00:04:23,076 --> 00:04:25,360 We found a deep hole here where there was buried... 47 00:04:25,437 --> 00:04:27,999 a young couple and their 10-month-old baby. 48 00:04:28,076 --> 00:04:30,079 There was a body of a man there, 49 00:04:30,156 --> 00:04:34,116 and four more women there, there, there, and there. 50 00:04:36,756 --> 00:04:39,040 And it was obvious that they'd all... 51 00:04:39,116 --> 00:04:41,675 been killed in a horrific manner. 52 00:04:45,317 --> 00:04:48,199 Beside me here is one complete set of the tapes. 53 00:04:48,276 --> 00:04:51,917 And just to give you a sense, from about here, 54 00:05:01,117 --> 00:05:04,799 to here, are all about Cheryl Dempsey. 55 00:05:04,876 --> 00:05:06,159 When people think of serial killers... 56 00:05:06,236 --> 00:05:07,919 they think of four or five people. 57 00:05:07,996 --> 00:05:11,556 You know, Ted Bundy, Dahmer, Gacy, et cetera. 58 00:05:12,836 --> 00:05:14,600 But what most people don't realize... 59 00:05:14,677 --> 00:05:16,796 is how many more there are. 60 00:05:17,996 --> 00:05:20,240 At any given time, there are somewhere between... 61 00:05:20,317 --> 00:05:24,196 25 and 50 active serial killers in America alone. 62 00:05:25,797 --> 00:05:29,757 It is really a much bigger problem than most people realize. 63 00:05:30,636 --> 00:05:33,719 There are probably hours and hours of these tapes... 64 00:05:33,796 --> 00:05:35,919 that nobody's watched except me. 65 00:05:35,996 --> 00:05:39,400 Like, for example, there's over 100 hours... 66 00:05:39,476 --> 00:05:42,476 of weird balloon stuff on these tapes. 67 00:05:48,636 --> 00:05:50,319 Like this? 68 00:05:50,396 --> 00:05:51,236 Yes. 69 00:06:05,557 --> 00:06:06,680 Like this? 70 00:06:06,756 --> 00:06:07,596 Yes. 71 00:06:11,796 --> 00:06:12,919 Now pop it. 72 00:06:12,996 --> 00:06:14,400 What? 73 00:06:14,477 --> 00:06:15,556 Pop it! 74 00:06:27,556 --> 00:06:28,879 If I've learned one thing... 75 00:06:28,956 --> 00:06:31,839 from teaching this class, it's this. 76 00:06:31,916 --> 00:06:34,840 After what we're gonna see here today, 77 00:06:34,917 --> 00:06:37,440 three of you will go home tonight... 78 00:06:37,517 --> 00:06:41,840 and decide that this is not what you want with your life. 79 00:06:41,917 --> 00:06:44,800 You know, there are some terrible people in this world... 80 00:06:44,876 --> 00:06:47,716 who do unbelievably terrible things. 81 00:06:49,636 --> 00:06:53,600 So it's important that each of you ask yourself, 82 00:06:53,676 --> 00:06:57,759 do I really wanna surround myself with these terrible things... 83 00:06:57,836 --> 00:07:00,756 for the rest of my professional life? 84 00:07:03,516 --> 00:07:05,479 And it's okay if you don't. 85 00:07:05,556 --> 00:07:08,879 I would guess something happened in his life at that time. 86 00:07:08,956 --> 00:07:13,080 He got in a fight, lost a job, got left by his wife, 87 00:07:13,156 --> 00:07:16,559 something like that, and went out in his car... 88 00:07:16,636 --> 00:07:19,120 and at some point said, 89 00:07:19,196 --> 00:07:22,436 the next vulnerable person I see is dead. 90 00:08:26,236 --> 00:08:26,996 Hi. 91 00:08:31,396 --> 00:08:32,796 I like your dolls. 92 00:08:35,756 --> 00:08:37,796 I said, I like your dolls. 93 00:08:38,716 --> 00:08:39,920 What's that one's name? 94 00:08:39,997 --> 00:08:40,919 Susie. 95 00:08:40,996 --> 00:08:43,996 I'm not supposed to talk to strangers. 96 00:08:45,476 --> 00:08:46,600 Well, you're not supposed... 97 00:08:46,676 --> 00:08:48,796 to have bad manners either. 98 00:08:50,716 --> 00:08:53,360 You know, if I was the Big Bad Wolf... 99 00:08:53,437 --> 00:08:56,276 there's nothing you can do about it. 100 00:08:58,996 --> 00:09:01,319 You wanna say something to the camera? 101 00:09:01,396 --> 00:09:02,316 Like what? 102 00:09:03,156 --> 00:09:03,879 I don't know. 103 00:09:03,956 --> 00:09:05,996 Maybe you could say, I am, 104 00:09:07,956 --> 00:09:10,516 I am a happy, pretty little girl. 105 00:09:11,916 --> 00:09:12,676 No. 106 00:09:14,916 --> 00:09:17,719 You wanna see what it looks like through the camera? 107 00:09:17,796 --> 00:09:18,556 No. 108 00:09:19,476 --> 00:09:20,396 Here. 109 00:10:05,956 --> 00:10:07,719 On first inspection, it looked like... 110 00:10:07,796 --> 00:10:11,399 she had been hit in the head with a blunt object. 111 00:10:11,476 --> 00:10:14,199 We found there was a missing girl, Jennifer Gorman, 112 00:10:14,276 --> 00:10:17,799 eight years old, from Putnam County, about 50 miles away, 113 00:10:17,876 --> 00:10:21,875 fitting the description, last seen in similar clothes. 114 00:10:31,996 --> 00:10:32,719 I think something bad... 115 00:10:32,796 --> 00:10:33,719 has happened to my daughter. 116 00:10:33,796 --> 00:10:34,719 I think somebody took her. 117 00:10:34,796 --> 00:10:36,080 - Like who? - I don't know who! 118 00:10:36,156 --> 00:10:36,880 Out of the yard! 119 00:10:36,956 --> 00:10:38,680 There's blood out there, please, do something. 120 00:10:38,756 --> 00:10:39,719 Do something, do something! 121 00:10:39,796 --> 00:10:40,519 - Somebody took her! - If it's a missing person... 122 00:10:40,596 --> 00:10:41,759 - we have to wait 24 hours. - No! 123 00:10:41,836 --> 00:10:43,880 There is blood, there is blood out there. 124 00:10:43,956 --> 00:10:45,595 Send the police now! 125 00:10:52,316 --> 00:10:54,479 Obviously, you don't ever get over something like this. 126 00:10:54,556 --> 00:10:57,636 You think the pain will subside, and... 127 00:11:02,396 --> 00:11:03,556 And get better. 128 00:11:06,076 --> 00:11:07,399 But it doesn't. 129 00:11:07,476 --> 00:11:08,476 Not at all. 130 00:11:09,676 --> 00:11:13,439 What kind of a sick bastard rapes a little girl. 131 00:11:13,516 --> 00:11:15,160 She was just a child. 132 00:11:15,236 --> 00:11:17,319 She was barely eight. 133 00:11:17,396 --> 00:11:18,395 I'm so sorry. 134 00:11:26,436 --> 00:11:28,359 This is nothing. 135 00:11:28,436 --> 00:11:31,075 He doesn't even know what he's doing yet. 136 00:11:38,956 --> 00:11:39,840 Hey, having a little car problem? 137 00:11:39,916 --> 00:11:41,479 Yeah, this old thing... 138 00:11:41,556 --> 00:11:44,079 isn't even worth driving some days. 139 00:11:44,156 --> 00:11:46,119 Could I get a lift into the next town? 140 00:11:46,196 --> 00:11:46,919 Yeah, no problem. 141 00:11:46,996 --> 00:11:47,755 Hop in. 142 00:11:57,036 --> 00:11:58,360 Do you mind if I film this? 143 00:11:58,436 --> 00:12:02,039 I'm making a little movie about my trip. 144 00:12:02,116 --> 00:12:03,879 Knock yourself out. 145 00:12:03,956 --> 00:12:06,876 Look Hon, we're gonna be movie stars. 146 00:12:09,996 --> 00:12:11,520 So what's your name? 147 00:12:11,596 --> 00:12:12,356 Ed. 148 00:12:13,276 --> 00:12:15,079 Ed, I'm Frank, this is Jeanette. 149 00:12:15,156 --> 00:12:15,916 Hi. 150 00:12:21,355 --> 00:12:23,479 If you take this exit up here, 151 00:12:23,555 --> 00:12:26,200 you can drop me off at the little gas station. 152 00:12:26,276 --> 00:12:27,436 Okay. 153 00:12:38,516 --> 00:12:40,039 It's to the right here, 154 00:12:40,116 --> 00:12:42,359 just a couple miles off the freeway. 155 00:12:42,436 --> 00:12:44,720 All right. 156 00:12:44,796 --> 00:12:46,679 You from around here? 157 00:12:46,756 --> 00:12:48,156 Not really. 158 00:12:50,236 --> 00:12:51,876 Where are you from? 159 00:12:53,156 --> 00:12:57,116 I think the gas station's right around the bend. 160 00:13:20,556 --> 00:13:22,799 Oh my god! 161 00:13:22,876 --> 00:13:23,995 Oh my god! 162 00:13:46,115 --> 00:13:48,479 A Poughkeepsie couple vanished over the weekend, 163 00:13:48,556 --> 00:13:50,279 seemingly without a trace. 164 00:13:50,355 --> 00:13:51,719 Family members say they haven't heard... 165 00:13:51,796 --> 00:13:53,199 from Frank or Jeanette Anderson... 166 00:13:53,276 --> 00:13:55,279 since they left Pittsburgh last Friday. 167 00:13:55,356 --> 00:13:56,839 Authorities still have no leads... 168 00:13:56,916 --> 00:13:58,399 as to the couple's whereabouts. 169 00:13:58,475 --> 00:14:02,399 This homicide announces a completely new kind of killer. 170 00:14:02,476 --> 00:14:04,759 There is almost nothing left of the impulsiveness... 171 00:14:04,836 --> 00:14:07,599 that he displayed with Jennifer Gorman. 172 00:14:07,676 --> 00:14:12,119 Here is a man who's figured out he's good at something. 173 00:14:12,196 --> 00:14:14,599 Imagine what it would take to do this. 174 00:14:14,676 --> 00:14:17,039 From the seat behind her he takes a rag... 175 00:14:17,115 --> 00:14:19,599 with some sort of chemical agent with his right hand, 176 00:14:19,676 --> 00:14:22,279 and he places it over her mouth. 177 00:14:22,356 --> 00:14:23,959 And with his left hand holding the camera... 178 00:14:24,036 --> 00:14:26,039 he's reaching it out and holding it... 179 00:14:26,116 --> 00:14:28,959 in front of her face like this. 180 00:14:29,035 --> 00:14:32,239 This isn't the kind of thing that just happens. 181 00:14:32,316 --> 00:14:35,399 He must've practiced this motion thoroughly to get it right. 182 00:14:35,475 --> 00:14:38,119 I mean, his car's parked alongside the road. 183 00:14:38,196 --> 00:14:40,879 He knows where the next gas station is, 184 00:14:40,956 --> 00:14:43,639 he knows it's only a mile or two off the freeway, 185 00:14:43,715 --> 00:14:45,879 and he knows that it's a desolate area... 186 00:14:45,956 --> 00:14:48,839 between the freeway and the gas station. 187 00:14:48,915 --> 00:14:51,675 In fact, this station is abandoned, 188 00:14:52,676 --> 00:14:55,519 and I bet he knows that too. 189 00:14:55,596 --> 00:14:59,235 And he had a ready made excuse for the camera. 190 00:15:00,476 --> 00:15:03,799 This man is what we call a mixed killer. 191 00:15:03,875 --> 00:15:07,439 He plots and hides his crimes in an organized manner, 192 00:15:07,516 --> 00:15:11,476 but he mutilates and does, well, let's say similar things... 193 00:15:12,515 --> 00:15:16,476 with the bodies that a disorganized killer would do. 194 00:15:22,955 --> 00:15:24,116 Wake up. 195 00:15:25,356 --> 00:15:26,115 Wake up. 196 00:15:27,315 --> 00:15:28,636 Come on, wake up. 197 00:15:30,036 --> 00:15:33,679 Come on, wake up, I have a surprise for you. 198 00:15:33,756 --> 00:15:35,916 Wake up. 199 00:15:36,836 --> 00:15:39,596 Wake up, wake up, wake up, wake up. 200 00:15:40,795 --> 00:15:41,516 Wake up. 201 00:15:42,876 --> 00:15:43,635 Wake up. 202 00:15:44,836 --> 00:15:45,595 Wake up. 203 00:15:46,996 --> 00:15:47,755 Wake up. 204 00:15:51,595 --> 00:15:53,475 You're gonna love this. 205 00:16:15,036 --> 00:16:16,196 Yeah, I know. 206 00:16:18,676 --> 00:16:20,399 Today the search for a missing Poughkeepsie couple... 207 00:16:20,476 --> 00:16:23,119 ends tragically, this when human remains are found... 208 00:16:23,196 --> 00:16:25,959 buried in a wooded area of rural Pennsylvania. 209 00:16:26,035 --> 00:16:27,279 They brought a woman's body in... 210 00:16:27,356 --> 00:16:29,559 that was very badly mutilated. 211 00:16:29,636 --> 00:16:31,959 The corpse had a head placed in its abdomen... 212 00:16:32,036 --> 00:16:35,199 in a kind of strange, ceremonial fashion. 213 00:16:35,276 --> 00:16:37,119 I took one look at the skull, 214 00:16:37,196 --> 00:16:39,479 the upper edges of the eye orbits were smooth, 215 00:16:39,556 --> 00:16:41,239 and the cranial vault was rigid, 216 00:16:41,316 --> 00:16:43,479 and showed heavy muscular markings. 217 00:16:43,556 --> 00:16:46,479 I said, this is a man's head in a woman's body. 218 00:16:46,556 --> 00:16:48,799 This is two murders, not one. 219 00:16:48,876 --> 00:16:50,599 After talking to their friends and families, 220 00:16:50,676 --> 00:16:52,958 we were able to ascertain that the Andersons... 221 00:16:53,035 --> 00:16:54,839 were coming back from Pittsburgh... 222 00:16:54,916 --> 00:16:57,319 to Poughkeepsie where they lived. 223 00:16:57,396 --> 00:17:01,439 That distance winds up being about 350 miles or so. 224 00:17:01,516 --> 00:17:04,078 The nice thing about this route, 225 00:17:04,155 --> 00:17:06,079 is that there are really only a couple... 226 00:17:06,156 --> 00:17:08,399 of logical ways to drive it. 227 00:17:08,476 --> 00:17:10,679 Under the best conditions, that particular make of car... 228 00:17:10,755 --> 00:17:12,999 can only go about 200 miles to the tank, 229 00:17:13,075 --> 00:17:14,479 more likely about 150. 230 00:17:14,556 --> 00:17:17,559 So we went from that point on the freeway, 231 00:17:17,635 --> 00:17:19,759 200 miles in both directions, 232 00:17:19,836 --> 00:17:22,559 and we went to every gas station along the route... 233 00:17:22,636 --> 00:17:24,839 and asked to see their surveillance tapes... 234 00:17:24,916 --> 00:17:26,876 from that particular day. 235 00:17:27,956 --> 00:17:30,719 That took some doing, but we did manage to get... 236 00:17:30,795 --> 00:17:34,755 our first video image of the killer in this manner. 237 00:17:46,555 --> 00:17:48,399 What's he doing with his hand? 238 00:17:48,475 --> 00:17:50,199 He's signing. 239 00:17:50,275 --> 00:17:51,599 That's right. 240 00:17:51,676 --> 00:17:53,679 Anybody know what he's saying? 241 00:17:53,756 --> 00:17:54,676 Red house. 242 00:17:55,875 --> 00:17:56,636 Good. 243 00:17:58,075 --> 00:18:00,438 Right, we found the second body in the woods... 244 00:18:00,515 --> 00:18:03,439 behind a place called the Red House Tavern... 245 00:18:03,516 --> 00:18:05,599 about three miles away. 246 00:18:05,676 --> 00:18:08,639 But the thing to keep in mind is this. 247 00:18:08,716 --> 00:18:12,516 He signed this before he even met the Andersons. 248 00:18:14,555 --> 00:18:17,239 Timeliness is of the essence in any investigation, 249 00:18:17,316 --> 00:18:19,479 but especially a murder. 250 00:18:19,556 --> 00:18:21,039 If we find a fresh crime scene, 251 00:18:21,115 --> 00:18:24,079 there's just a lot more information to work with... 252 00:18:24,155 --> 00:18:25,795 than say, a skeleton. 253 00:18:27,435 --> 00:18:30,439 Often, the serial killers who avoid detection and capture... 254 00:18:30,516 --> 00:18:34,718 are the ones who are especially good at disposing of bodies. 255 00:18:34,795 --> 00:18:38,399 The killer documented on the Poughkeepsie tapes... 256 00:18:38,476 --> 00:18:41,038 is very, very good at it. 257 00:18:41,115 --> 00:18:43,479 Not only does he know how to dispose of bodies, 258 00:18:43,556 --> 00:18:47,478 he knows how to dispose of bodies in many different ways. 259 00:18:47,555 --> 00:18:50,159 Elizabeth Jackson was abducted in Hanson County, 260 00:18:50,236 --> 00:18:52,399 which is about 100 miles from the location... 261 00:18:52,476 --> 00:18:54,639 we later found the tapes in. 262 00:18:54,715 --> 00:18:56,279 The killer then took a circular saw, 263 00:18:56,355 --> 00:18:58,639 cut off her head and hands. 264 00:18:58,715 --> 00:19:01,878 He then dumped her torso in Putnam County, 265 00:19:01,955 --> 00:19:04,119 and her head and hands in Broome County. 266 00:19:04,195 --> 00:19:05,998 When someone's disposed of like this, 267 00:19:06,075 --> 00:19:08,519 it's almost impossible to put it all together... 268 00:19:08,595 --> 00:19:11,959 because even if the various counties did talk, 269 00:19:12,036 --> 00:19:14,599 and they don't, but even if they did, 270 00:19:14,676 --> 00:19:18,595 there may be a five year gap between finding the head... 271 00:19:20,036 --> 00:19:22,438 and the torso of a body like this. 272 00:19:22,515 --> 00:19:24,635 I see this and I say, okay, 273 00:19:25,756 --> 00:19:28,314 here's a killer who understands bureaucracy. 274 00:19:33,955 --> 00:19:35,439 Usually a killer won't think through... 275 00:19:35,516 --> 00:19:37,239 their first dismembering, 276 00:19:37,316 --> 00:19:38,758 and they have a dead body in the house... 277 00:19:38,835 --> 00:19:40,319 and they need to take it apart. 278 00:19:40,395 --> 00:19:42,279 So they go out to the garage and get a saw... 279 00:19:42,356 --> 00:19:45,918 and take some hours to get the head off. 280 00:19:45,995 --> 00:19:48,599 So the next time, they'll go and get a better saw... 281 00:19:48,676 --> 00:19:51,359 before they kill someone, and that makes it a little better, 282 00:19:51,436 --> 00:19:55,075 but if they really wanna get into the killing, 283 00:19:57,675 --> 00:20:00,515 they'll often go and get a real saw. 284 00:20:01,716 --> 00:20:05,116 Something that cuts through quick and easy. 285 00:20:06,636 --> 00:20:09,599 And at that point, they'll never go back to a handsaw. 286 00:20:09,676 --> 00:20:12,918 Except this guy, he did it repeatedly. 287 00:20:12,995 --> 00:20:16,279 Sometimes he uses a circular saw, sometimes a handsaw. 288 00:20:16,355 --> 00:20:17,438 It's part of the reason that we never... 289 00:20:17,515 --> 00:20:19,875 grouped his killings together. 290 00:20:20,756 --> 00:20:23,198 It's probably why he did it. 291 00:20:23,275 --> 00:20:25,719 But after all that effort to mask his killings, 292 00:20:25,795 --> 00:20:29,879 He shows us each and every disassembly in his tapes. 293 00:20:29,956 --> 00:20:32,319 I guess he just wanted someone to appreciate... 294 00:20:32,395 --> 00:20:35,199 how good he is at this, and the thought that maybe... 295 00:20:35,275 --> 00:20:38,756 we'd be strangely sort of impressed with it. 296 00:20:39,875 --> 00:20:41,079 Are you? 297 00:20:41,155 --> 00:20:42,199 No. 298 00:20:42,275 --> 00:20:44,358 After seeing what he did to Cheryl Dempsey, 299 00:20:44,435 --> 00:20:47,915 I could feel nothing but loathing for this guy. 300 00:21:21,276 --> 00:21:23,359 It was so sweet. 301 00:21:23,436 --> 00:21:25,754 Should've gone with you. 302 00:21:26,515 --> 00:21:27,238 Cow's gone on her trip. 303 00:21:27,315 --> 00:21:29,959 My mom was being such a bitch. 304 00:21:30,036 --> 00:21:31,039 How long are they gone for? 305 00:21:31,116 --> 00:21:32,719 Like a week. 306 00:21:32,796 --> 00:21:34,319 Like Wednesday, right? 307 00:21:34,395 --> 00:21:35,635 Yeah. 308 00:21:40,196 --> 00:21:41,035 No. 309 00:21:42,155 --> 00:21:43,038 Tim? 310 00:21:43,115 --> 00:21:44,319 Yeah? 311 00:21:44,395 --> 00:21:47,958 Do you ever get a feeling? 312 00:21:48,035 --> 00:21:49,078 What do you mean? 313 00:21:49,155 --> 00:21:53,399 Like feeling like something's going to happen? 314 00:21:53,476 --> 00:21:55,118 Sometimes, why? 315 00:21:55,195 --> 00:21:56,078 It's weird. 316 00:21:56,155 --> 00:21:58,159 Everything's been so good lately. 317 00:21:58,235 --> 00:22:01,118 Everybody seems to be happy, and everything's just like, 318 00:22:01,195 --> 00:22:02,994 too good, you know? 319 00:24:35,675 --> 00:24:36,995 Hello? 320 00:24:37,915 --> 00:24:38,835 Is that you? 321 00:24:40,355 --> 00:24:41,115 Tim? 322 00:24:55,595 --> 00:24:56,359 Hello? 323 00:24:56,435 --> 00:24:57,199 Hello? 324 00:24:57,276 --> 00:24:58,279 Is that you? 325 00:24:58,355 --> 00:25:00,118 Hey, you mind if I grab something to eat? 326 00:25:00,195 --> 00:25:01,078 Yeah, go ahead. 327 00:25:01,155 --> 00:25:02,399 Can you grab some ice cream while you're down there? 328 00:25:02,475 --> 00:25:03,475 Sure. 329 00:25:05,315 --> 00:25:08,155 Will you grab me a towel? 330 00:25:09,035 --> 00:25:11,439 I know you're still there. 331 00:25:11,515 --> 00:25:13,955 Come on, you're not scaring me. 332 00:25:21,075 --> 00:25:22,758 Hey, what kind of ice cream did you want? 333 00:25:22,835 --> 00:25:24,278 Whatever, chocolate? 334 00:25:24,355 --> 00:25:25,355 Done. 335 00:26:11,195 --> 00:26:12,319 You scared me. 336 00:26:12,395 --> 00:26:13,878 You shouldn't jump out at somebody like that. 337 00:26:13,955 --> 00:26:15,118 Sorry. 338 00:26:15,195 --> 00:26:17,798 I brought you ice cream, and beer. 339 00:26:17,875 --> 00:26:18,635 Thanks. 340 00:26:19,595 --> 00:26:21,758 Why did you move my clothes? 341 00:26:21,835 --> 00:26:23,155 I didn't. 342 00:26:24,075 --> 00:26:26,515 They were all over the place. 343 00:26:30,955 --> 00:26:31,959 Come here. 344 00:26:32,035 --> 00:26:33,158 Why? 345 00:26:33,235 --> 00:26:34,074 You'll see. 346 00:26:36,355 --> 00:26:38,038 Let's just go watch a movie. 347 00:26:38,115 --> 00:26:39,639 Like what? 348 00:26:39,715 --> 00:26:41,995 I rented a couple. 349 00:26:42,835 --> 00:26:46,598 You wanna stay here for awhile? 350 00:26:46,675 --> 00:26:48,754 Maybe for a little while. 351 00:28:10,155 --> 00:28:11,278 Hey. 352 00:28:11,355 --> 00:28:13,558 We're starting to fall asleep. 353 00:28:13,635 --> 00:28:15,598 You wanna go to bed? 354 00:28:15,675 --> 00:28:17,118 Yeah, yeah okay. 355 00:28:17,195 --> 00:28:18,358 You're staying over tonight, right? 356 00:28:18,435 --> 00:28:19,598 Yeah. 357 00:28:19,675 --> 00:28:20,518 Cool. 358 00:28:20,595 --> 00:28:22,998 I get a little scared here by myself. 359 00:28:23,075 --> 00:28:24,918 I think I might too. 360 00:28:24,995 --> 00:28:26,518 Do you mind putting this stuff in the sink? 361 00:28:26,595 --> 00:28:28,198 I just wanna pee and brush my teeth. 362 00:28:28,275 --> 00:28:29,359 No, it's fine. 363 00:28:29,435 --> 00:28:31,075 Thank you. 364 00:29:48,275 --> 00:29:50,878 This weekend ends in tragedy for one family. 365 00:29:50,955 --> 00:29:53,158 Victoria and James Dempsey returned home... 366 00:29:53,234 --> 00:29:54,918 after leaving their 19-year-old daughter, 367 00:29:54,995 --> 00:29:57,478 Cheryl Dempsey, home alone for the weekend. 368 00:29:57,555 --> 00:29:59,758 Now when they returned they found Cheryl missing, 369 00:29:59,834 --> 00:30:03,958 and her boyfriend, Tim Surrey, brutally murdered. 370 00:30:04,035 --> 00:30:08,318 I remember maybe three days before Cheryl's abduction... 371 00:30:08,395 --> 00:30:12,598 she asked me, do you ever feel like someone's watching you? 372 00:30:12,675 --> 00:30:14,318 I said not really. 373 00:30:14,395 --> 00:30:16,238 And she told me, sometimes I feel like... 374 00:30:16,315 --> 00:30:19,398 maybe someone's following me around. 375 00:30:19,475 --> 00:30:21,478 I said, you know, you're probably just being paranoid. 376 00:30:21,555 --> 00:30:23,554 And she said, yeah, maybe. 377 00:30:24,435 --> 00:30:27,234 You know, hindsight's 20/20. 378 00:30:30,915 --> 00:30:32,838 What's happening? 379 00:30:32,915 --> 00:30:33,755 Where am I? 380 00:30:38,115 --> 00:30:39,438 Stay away from me! 381 00:30:39,515 --> 00:30:40,274 Stay away! 382 00:30:41,234 --> 00:30:43,874 Why are you doing this to me? 383 00:30:47,834 --> 00:30:50,758 Please don't hurt me. 384 00:30:50,834 --> 00:30:52,758 I'll do whatever you want. 385 00:30:52,835 --> 00:30:53,993 I know you will. 386 00:30:54,834 --> 00:30:55,595 Shut up! 387 00:30:59,595 --> 00:31:01,398 What is your name? 388 00:31:01,475 --> 00:31:02,518 Cheryl Dempsey. 389 00:31:02,595 --> 00:31:03,355 Wrong! 390 00:31:06,354 --> 00:31:07,835 Your name is slave. 391 00:31:12,155 --> 00:31:13,555 What is your name? 392 00:31:14,755 --> 00:31:15,874 Cheryl. 393 00:31:19,155 --> 00:31:20,795 Your name is slave! 394 00:31:24,275 --> 00:31:25,398 What is your name? 395 00:31:25,475 --> 00:31:26,438 My name is slave! 396 00:31:26,514 --> 00:31:27,518 What is your name? 397 00:31:27,594 --> 00:31:28,958 Slave! 398 00:31:29,035 --> 00:31:30,518 What is your name? 399 00:31:30,595 --> 00:31:31,355 Slave! 400 00:31:37,035 --> 00:31:38,074 Good. 401 00:31:51,795 --> 00:31:54,998 Because of the gruesome condition of Tim's body, 402 00:31:55,075 --> 00:31:57,278 we had very little hope of finding Cheryl alive. 403 00:31:57,354 --> 00:32:00,278 His head had been crushed in, kind of like this. 404 00:32:00,355 --> 00:32:05,038 And he had been cut from his anus up to his throat, 405 00:32:05,115 --> 00:32:07,678 and his intestines had been pulled out... 406 00:32:07,755 --> 00:32:11,158 and strewn around like they were Christmas tree lights. 407 00:32:11,234 --> 00:32:14,198 And his genitals had been removed and they were placed... 408 00:32:14,275 --> 00:32:17,758 in the sock drawer in the master bedroom. 409 00:32:17,835 --> 00:32:19,118 Our basic thinking was that the killer... 410 00:32:19,194 --> 00:32:22,398 had lost all control of his faculties, 411 00:32:22,474 --> 00:32:25,358 and again, judging from the condition of the body, 412 00:32:25,435 --> 00:32:28,718 that he had probably killed her here, 413 00:32:28,794 --> 00:32:32,517 and then probably dumped her body in the woods. 414 00:32:32,594 --> 00:32:33,958 We took one look at the scene and wrote it off... 415 00:32:34,035 --> 00:32:36,398 as the work of a disorganized killer. 416 00:32:36,474 --> 00:32:38,518 The truth we later learned from the Poughkeepsie tapes... 417 00:32:38,595 --> 00:32:40,838 was that this killer had carefully crafted... 418 00:32:40,915 --> 00:32:42,798 the murder site to mislead us. 419 00:32:42,875 --> 00:32:43,955 And it worked. 420 00:32:45,555 --> 00:32:48,238 Funny thing is, to be able to murder and mutilate a body... 421 00:32:48,315 --> 00:32:52,438 in such a way and to maintain composure while doing so, 422 00:32:52,514 --> 00:32:55,438 coupled with his bizarre sense of theatricality, 423 00:32:55,514 --> 00:32:59,397 you know, the masks and costumes and whatnot, 424 00:32:59,474 --> 00:33:03,038 shows that this man is extremely mentally ill. 425 00:33:03,115 --> 00:33:04,918 Comedia del arte is a form of theater... 426 00:33:04,994 --> 00:33:07,558 that dates back to 16th century Italy. 427 00:33:07,635 --> 00:33:09,277 They actually had to pass a law prohibiting... 428 00:33:09,354 --> 00:33:11,877 carrying weapons while wearing a mask, 429 00:33:11,954 --> 00:33:14,598 because people stopped being responsible for their actions... 430 00:33:14,675 --> 00:33:15,997 the moment they put one on. 431 00:33:16,074 --> 00:33:18,118 I think the costumes serve two functions. 432 00:33:18,195 --> 00:33:21,518 First, they let him draw out the act of killing. 433 00:33:21,594 --> 00:33:24,637 And second, they help him to alleviate any sense of guilt... 434 00:33:24,714 --> 00:33:27,797 or regret he may have for the horrible things he's doing. 435 00:33:27,874 --> 00:33:30,238 This character went out of fashion hundreds of years ago. 436 00:33:30,315 --> 00:33:33,638 It's the character Dottore Peste. 437 00:33:33,715 --> 00:33:35,675 The Doctor of the Plague. 438 00:33:43,355 --> 00:33:45,395 Why are you crying? 439 00:33:46,875 --> 00:33:48,675 'Cause I want my mom. 440 00:33:49,674 --> 00:33:51,318 I want my mom. 441 00:33:51,395 --> 00:33:54,078 Didn't I tell you? 442 00:33:54,155 --> 00:33:54,878 What? 443 00:33:54,955 --> 00:33:57,398 I killed your mom. 444 00:33:57,475 --> 00:33:59,594 I killed your whole family. 445 00:34:00,914 --> 00:34:02,518 I'm all you have left. 446 00:34:02,594 --> 00:34:04,155 No, no you didn't. 447 00:34:05,235 --> 00:34:06,714 You tell me! 448 00:34:07,954 --> 00:34:11,638 Tell me you're happy I killed your family. 449 00:34:11,715 --> 00:34:12,795 No! 450 00:34:15,234 --> 00:34:16,154 What? 451 00:34:17,035 --> 00:34:18,114 No. 452 00:34:19,154 --> 00:34:21,555 No! 453 00:34:33,594 --> 00:34:34,355 Say it! 454 00:34:38,274 --> 00:34:39,038 Say it! 455 00:34:39,115 --> 00:34:39,838 What? 456 00:34:39,914 --> 00:34:40,878 What? 457 00:34:40,955 --> 00:34:43,874 You're happy I killed your parents! 458 00:34:51,075 --> 00:34:51,834 Say it! 459 00:34:54,994 --> 00:34:55,755 What? 460 00:34:56,914 --> 00:34:58,358 I'm happy you killed my parents. 461 00:34:58,434 --> 00:35:00,278 Say it again. 462 00:35:00,354 --> 00:35:02,238 I'm happy you killed my parents. 463 00:35:02,315 --> 00:35:04,838 You don't have parents. 464 00:35:04,915 --> 00:35:06,193 You're a slave. 465 00:35:08,994 --> 00:35:10,074 I'll say it. 466 00:35:11,034 --> 00:35:12,195 Those people. 467 00:35:14,115 --> 00:35:16,557 I'm happy that you killed them. 468 00:35:16,634 --> 00:35:17,395 Why? 469 00:35:19,075 --> 00:35:19,997 Why? 470 00:35:20,074 --> 00:35:21,033 Why! 471 00:35:23,074 --> 00:35:25,274 Because I don't like them! 472 00:35:36,514 --> 00:35:38,878 Who do you like? 473 00:35:38,955 --> 00:35:40,114 You. 474 00:35:41,115 --> 00:35:41,955 Who? 475 00:35:42,915 --> 00:35:44,474 Only you. 476 00:35:48,275 --> 00:35:49,115 Why? 477 00:35:50,674 --> 00:35:52,598 Because you're the master, 478 00:35:52,675 --> 00:35:55,034 and it please me to serve you. 479 00:35:58,715 --> 00:36:00,558 Did you want me to kill those people. 480 00:36:00,635 --> 00:36:02,118 Yes. 481 00:36:02,194 --> 00:36:03,037 I don't know. 482 00:36:03,114 --> 00:36:03,838 Yes! 483 00:36:03,915 --> 00:36:04,638 I don't know! 484 00:36:04,715 --> 00:36:05,438 Yes! 485 00:36:05,514 --> 00:36:07,358 That's why I did it. 486 00:36:07,434 --> 00:36:09,198 I did it because of you. 487 00:36:09,275 --> 00:36:11,157 Thank you Master! 488 00:36:11,234 --> 00:36:11,995 Thank you! 489 00:36:13,194 --> 00:36:14,717 Say it. 490 00:36:14,794 --> 00:36:16,278 You're the master. 491 00:36:16,355 --> 00:36:24,027 You're the master and it pleases me to serve you. 492 00:36:29,835 --> 00:36:31,194 You're the master... 493 00:36:33,915 --> 00:36:36,038 People have come from as far away as Lancaster County... 494 00:36:36,115 --> 00:36:39,318 to search the wooded area around the Dempsey residence. 495 00:36:39,394 --> 00:36:41,317 This in hopes of finding any clues... 496 00:36:41,394 --> 00:36:43,357 in the disappearance of their daughter Cheryl. 497 00:36:43,434 --> 00:36:47,998 I'd just like to say to the person who's done this, 498 00:36:48,075 --> 00:36:50,795 please bring my daughter back home. 499 00:37:02,434 --> 00:37:06,318 If there's anything I can do to help, 500 00:37:06,394 --> 00:37:07,874 please let me know. 501 00:37:09,035 --> 00:37:09,794 Thanks. 502 00:37:14,914 --> 00:37:15,674 Wait. 503 00:37:18,274 --> 00:37:19,034 Wait. 504 00:37:20,435 --> 00:37:21,158 Oh my god. 505 00:37:21,235 --> 00:37:24,474 Oh my god. 506 00:37:25,394 --> 00:37:29,355 I play that moment in my head over and over again. 507 00:37:31,074 --> 00:37:33,157 I knew it was him, and I didn't stop him... 508 00:37:33,234 --> 00:37:34,753 because I was scared. 509 00:37:47,954 --> 00:37:51,318 Are you through screaming? 510 00:37:51,394 --> 00:37:52,795 Do you need water? 511 00:38:11,234 --> 00:38:15,194 If I take the gag off, will you do something for me? 512 00:38:31,034 --> 00:38:33,074 I want you to put this on. 513 00:38:47,515 --> 00:38:51,474 You're the master and it pleases me to serve you. 514 00:38:52,714 --> 00:38:55,197 Pleases me to serve you. 515 00:38:55,274 --> 00:39:01,273 You're the master and it pleases me to serve you. 516 00:39:16,875 --> 00:39:19,317 By the summer of '93, the area was really... 517 00:39:19,394 --> 00:39:22,518 starting to feel the effects of this man's work. 518 00:39:22,594 --> 00:39:24,797 Most killers getting this much media attention... 519 00:39:24,874 --> 00:39:26,678 will do one of three things. 520 00:39:26,755 --> 00:39:28,598 One, they will realize it's not safe... 521 00:39:28,675 --> 00:39:32,158 for a serial killer to work that town anymore and leave. 522 00:39:32,235 --> 00:39:34,237 Two, they will give it a rest for a little while... 523 00:39:34,314 --> 00:39:36,278 and let it cool off. 524 00:39:36,355 --> 00:39:37,918 Or three, they'll just keep doing it, 525 00:39:37,995 --> 00:39:39,917 maybe even speed of the rate of their killings, 526 00:39:39,994 --> 00:39:41,718 until they get caught. 527 00:39:41,794 --> 00:39:45,237 But this killer did something quite unique, 528 00:39:45,314 --> 00:39:47,753 he kept killing, but changed his MO. 529 00:39:50,594 --> 00:39:52,197 A third body was found here today. 530 00:39:52,274 --> 00:39:53,877 We're standing on the west bank... 531 00:39:53,954 --> 00:39:55,598 of the Hudson River in Poughkeepsie, 532 00:39:55,674 --> 00:39:57,157 police believe this to be another killing... 533 00:39:57,234 --> 00:39:59,917 by the man some are calling the Water Street Butcher. 534 00:39:59,994 --> 00:40:00,877 Sixth killing believed to be the work... 535 00:40:00,954 --> 00:40:02,517 of the Water Street Butcher. 536 00:40:02,594 --> 00:40:04,118 Police are warning local prostitutes... 537 00:40:04,195 --> 00:40:06,074 to stay off the streets. 538 00:40:23,074 --> 00:40:24,553 Wasn't me! 539 00:40:28,594 --> 00:40:30,838 You're the master and it pleases me to serve you. 540 00:40:30,914 --> 00:40:35,638 You're the master and it pleases me to serve you. 541 00:40:35,714 --> 00:40:36,998 You're the master and it pleases... 542 00:40:37,074 --> 00:40:38,477 This ain't right. 543 00:40:38,554 --> 00:40:40,878 You're the master and it pleases me to serve you. 544 00:40:40,955 --> 00:40:48,627 You're the master and it pleases me to serve you. 545 00:40:50,754 --> 00:40:51,798 At around the same time we started... 546 00:40:51,874 --> 00:40:55,357 getting word from the prostitutes that worked that area... 547 00:40:55,434 --> 00:40:57,158 that girls are getting arrested... 548 00:40:57,234 --> 00:40:59,238 and never being heard from again. 549 00:40:59,314 --> 00:41:00,637 You can't just arrest me! 550 00:41:00,714 --> 00:41:02,113 You can't arrest me! 551 00:41:06,514 --> 00:41:07,598 Will you help me? 552 00:41:07,674 --> 00:41:08,877 No. 553 00:41:08,954 --> 00:41:10,878 Please, I, come on! 554 00:41:10,954 --> 00:41:13,677 No, no, he won't like it. 555 00:41:13,754 --> 00:41:15,838 If I'm with you, he can't stop you. 556 00:41:15,914 --> 00:41:16,713 He won't like it. 557 00:41:17,514 --> 00:41:18,834 No, no, no, no! 558 00:41:20,954 --> 00:41:21,714 No! 559 00:41:28,675 --> 00:41:30,154 No, no, no, please! 560 00:41:31,074 --> 00:41:31,837 Please no! 561 00:41:31,914 --> 00:41:32,674 No, no! 562 00:41:35,794 --> 00:41:36,958 Please no! 563 00:41:37,034 --> 00:41:38,354 Oh no, oh no, no! 564 00:41:43,554 --> 00:41:44,397 Now you. 565 00:41:44,474 --> 00:41:45,833 No, she was trying to escape... 566 00:41:49,594 --> 00:41:50,518 No I didn't! 567 00:41:50,594 --> 00:41:51,354 I didn't! 568 00:41:59,994 --> 00:42:01,157 Okay. 569 00:42:01,234 --> 00:42:03,114 This is your punishment. 570 00:42:33,874 --> 00:42:36,478 All of the victim's bodies had been mutilated. 571 00:42:36,554 --> 00:42:39,954 In part to cover up the bite marks on them. 572 00:42:41,474 --> 00:42:45,077 They all had been sliced from mouth to ear, 573 00:42:45,154 --> 00:42:48,157 and they had been raped postmortem. 574 00:42:48,234 --> 00:42:52,194 And we found matching sperm on four of the bodies. 575 00:42:53,594 --> 00:42:56,677 Years ago, I was granted the dubious honor... 576 00:42:56,754 --> 00:43:00,198 of interviewing Theodore Robert Bundy... 577 00:43:00,274 --> 00:43:02,678 in connection with another case. 578 00:43:02,754 --> 00:43:06,714 But the insight that I gained there is relevant here. 579 00:43:08,354 --> 00:43:11,117 I remember the first question he asked me was, did he... 580 00:43:11,194 --> 00:43:12,034 Rape her? 581 00:43:13,074 --> 00:43:15,357 Yes he did. 582 00:43:15,434 --> 00:43:16,834 Before or after? 583 00:43:18,994 --> 00:43:21,038 Before or after what? 584 00:43:21,114 --> 00:43:22,994 You know, killing her. 585 00:43:25,034 --> 00:43:26,398 After. 586 00:43:26,474 --> 00:43:30,434 You see Mike, I think that's an important distinction. 587 00:43:31,394 --> 00:43:34,474 This might all sound a little weird but... 588 00:43:35,714 --> 00:43:37,757 the kill and rape variety, 589 00:43:37,834 --> 00:43:40,477 these guys will continue to have sex with the body... 590 00:43:40,554 --> 00:43:44,717 way past the point where we thought possible. 591 00:43:44,794 --> 00:43:48,957 Mild decomposition, even maggots and things, 592 00:43:49,034 --> 00:43:51,394 may just serve to turn him on. 593 00:43:52,594 --> 00:43:55,997 Next time you find a fresh dump site, 594 00:43:56,074 --> 00:43:57,757 keep quiet about it. 595 00:43:57,834 --> 00:43:58,834 Stake it out. 596 00:44:00,034 --> 00:44:01,837 Your guy'll come back to it. 597 00:44:01,914 --> 00:44:05,478 Unfortunately, we have never found a fresh enough body. 598 00:44:05,554 --> 00:44:08,117 But there was evidence that he had... 599 00:44:08,194 --> 00:44:12,154 in fact been returning to them, for sexual reasons. 600 00:44:33,074 --> 00:44:35,317 Hi, we're selling cookies. 601 00:44:35,394 --> 00:44:37,153 Would you like to buy some? 602 00:44:39,514 --> 00:44:40,957 Sure. 603 00:44:41,034 --> 00:44:43,194 Sure, why don't you come in. 604 00:44:44,954 --> 00:44:47,477 Um, we're not really supposed to. 605 00:44:47,554 --> 00:44:49,477 Well that's smart. 606 00:44:49,554 --> 00:44:51,957 You know, there's a lot of weirdos out there, 607 00:44:52,034 --> 00:44:54,714 but I'm a policeman, so it's okay. 608 00:44:56,394 --> 00:44:57,117 Okay. 609 00:44:57,194 --> 00:44:58,317 Okay. 610 00:44:58,394 --> 00:44:59,433 Come on in. 611 00:45:09,073 --> 00:45:10,557 Just sit right there. 612 00:45:10,634 --> 00:45:11,714 Okay. 613 00:45:17,514 --> 00:45:18,677 Okay. 614 00:45:18,754 --> 00:45:20,477 Hey, you girls want some Cokes? 615 00:45:20,554 --> 00:45:21,357 Sure. 616 00:45:21,434 --> 00:45:22,558 - Yeah? - Okay. 617 00:45:22,634 --> 00:45:23,554 Okay. 618 00:45:29,834 --> 00:45:30,753 Thank you. 619 00:45:37,274 --> 00:45:40,757 Hey, did you ride your bikes here today? 620 00:45:40,834 --> 00:45:43,197 No, I live over on Dupont. 621 00:45:43,274 --> 00:45:45,477 Oh, so you live in the neighborhood? 622 00:45:45,553 --> 00:45:46,274 Yeah. 623 00:45:47,674 --> 00:45:48,477 I don't. 624 00:45:48,554 --> 00:45:51,077 I live over by Central. 625 00:45:51,154 --> 00:45:52,797 Well, before you leave, 626 00:45:52,874 --> 00:45:55,874 do you tell your parents where you go? 627 00:45:56,953 --> 00:45:57,917 Sometimes. 628 00:45:57,994 --> 00:45:58,877 Yeah. 629 00:45:58,954 --> 00:45:59,874 Yeah. 630 00:46:04,714 --> 00:46:06,237 What's that? 631 00:46:06,314 --> 00:46:07,233 What? 632 00:46:08,314 --> 00:46:09,878 I thought I heard something. 633 00:46:09,954 --> 00:46:13,597 Oh, well I left the TV on in the basement. 634 00:46:13,673 --> 00:46:15,073 Oh. 635 00:46:17,914 --> 00:46:19,397 You know, it sounds like I'm not... 636 00:46:19,474 --> 00:46:22,437 going to be able to get cookies today. 637 00:46:22,514 --> 00:46:25,717 You know, I get a raccoon in the basement sometimes. 638 00:46:25,794 --> 00:46:28,757 There's no raccoons around here. 639 00:46:28,834 --> 00:46:30,717 Sure there are. 640 00:46:30,794 --> 00:46:35,317 Hey, do you wanna see the raccoon I got in the basement? 641 00:46:35,394 --> 00:46:36,154 Sure. 642 00:46:36,993 --> 00:46:39,197 He's awful mean. 643 00:46:39,274 --> 00:46:40,994 I don't believe you. 644 00:46:41,874 --> 00:46:42,874 I wanna go. 645 00:46:45,514 --> 00:46:48,357 You know I'll have to get cookies some other day. 646 00:46:48,434 --> 00:46:51,034 Why don't you let yourselves out? 647 00:46:55,874 --> 00:46:57,594 Mark him off. 648 00:47:12,634 --> 00:47:14,997 Sounds like something got loose down there. 649 00:47:15,074 --> 00:47:16,997 I'm sorry Master, I thought that it was tight. 650 00:47:17,074 --> 00:47:18,957 You felt pity for it. 651 00:47:19,034 --> 00:47:20,197 You tried to let it go. 652 00:47:20,274 --> 00:47:21,477 No, no Master. 653 00:47:21,553 --> 00:47:22,877 I would never betray you. 654 00:47:22,953 --> 00:47:24,837 This is your fault. 655 00:47:24,914 --> 00:47:26,073 No. 656 00:47:42,994 --> 00:47:44,917 Suddenly, we had 10 bodies. 657 00:47:44,994 --> 00:47:49,237 Six of whom had matching samples of semen on them. 658 00:47:49,314 --> 00:47:50,877 Then we had a breakthrough. 659 00:47:50,954 --> 00:47:52,437 At one of the victim's apartments, 660 00:47:52,514 --> 00:47:55,957 we found an unwashed glass of water. 661 00:47:56,034 --> 00:47:59,594 It had a fingerprint and DNA from the saliva. 662 00:48:00,714 --> 00:48:03,437 We ran the prints we found on the glass of water. 663 00:48:03,514 --> 00:48:06,157 It came back with a match. 664 00:48:06,234 --> 00:48:08,794 It matched my partner, Jim Foley. 665 00:48:09,833 --> 00:48:12,637 They placed him under arrest and started building a case. 666 00:48:12,713 --> 00:48:14,757 He had been in town for all those killings, 667 00:48:14,834 --> 00:48:16,917 and there were three killings in Pennsylvania... 668 00:48:16,993 --> 00:48:18,237 that matched the same MO, 669 00:48:18,314 --> 00:48:22,317 and he had been in Pennsylvania on family vacation. 670 00:48:22,394 --> 00:48:25,637 He had no substantiated alibi for any of the murders. 671 00:48:25,714 --> 00:48:27,317 We searched his car and his house... 672 00:48:27,393 --> 00:48:31,597 and found jewelry and bloodstains that matched the victims. 673 00:48:31,673 --> 00:48:34,433 That point, we knew we had our man. 674 00:48:50,153 --> 00:48:52,597 When they came and arrested my dad... 675 00:48:52,674 --> 00:48:55,357 as the Water street Butcher, it was devastating. 676 00:48:55,434 --> 00:48:58,557 I couldn't sleep, I dropped out of school, 677 00:48:58,634 --> 00:49:01,677 I became a freak even to my own friends. 678 00:49:01,754 --> 00:49:03,837 Everything changed in one second. 679 00:49:03,914 --> 00:49:06,077 Foley had no alibi for these murders... 680 00:49:06,154 --> 00:49:09,317 because he was a cop who rode in an unmarked cruiser... 681 00:49:09,393 --> 00:49:11,357 by himself most of the time. 682 00:49:11,433 --> 00:49:14,837 There was plenty of time for him to commit these crimes. 683 00:49:14,914 --> 00:49:17,757 Secondly, he had a history of getting prostitutes. 684 00:49:17,834 --> 00:49:21,677 Apparently Mr. Foley was a fairly regular customer. 685 00:49:21,754 --> 00:49:24,877 One of the prostitutes, Cindy Jackson, took the stand... 686 00:49:24,954 --> 00:49:26,237 and placed him in the neighborhood... 687 00:49:26,314 --> 00:49:29,717 at the time of three of the abductions. 688 00:49:29,793 --> 00:49:31,437 As defense, my hands were really tied... 689 00:49:31,514 --> 00:49:34,477 because he kept refusing a plea bargain of any kind. 690 00:49:34,554 --> 00:49:36,077 I kept telling him, Jim, 691 00:49:36,154 --> 00:49:38,837 they're gonna kill you if you don't cop a plea. 692 00:49:38,914 --> 00:49:40,997 He kept telling me that he'd fire me... 693 00:49:41,073 --> 00:49:44,197 and defend himself if I didn't shut up about it. 694 00:49:44,274 --> 00:49:46,512 It was really quite frustrating. 695 00:49:58,114 --> 00:49:59,593 He was my father. 696 00:50:02,234 --> 00:50:05,634 Now it's over and he needs to be punished. 697 00:50:13,033 --> 00:50:15,077 But I think that your life should be spared, 698 00:50:15,154 --> 00:50:17,552 because we are not like you. 699 00:50:24,393 --> 00:50:26,437 You're the master and it pleases me to serve you. 700 00:50:26,514 --> 00:50:34,186 You're the master and it pleases me to serve you. 701 00:50:56,073 --> 00:50:58,077 The governor has not granted reprieve, 702 00:50:58,153 --> 00:51:01,713 James Foley will be executed within the hour. 703 00:51:30,554 --> 00:51:31,877 Two members of the execution team... 704 00:51:31,954 --> 00:51:34,477 are preparing their injections. 705 00:51:34,554 --> 00:51:36,354 A third is standing by. 706 00:51:45,114 --> 00:51:46,917 The superintendent will now give the condemned... 707 00:51:46,993 --> 00:51:49,837 the opportunity to make a last statement. 708 00:51:49,914 --> 00:51:52,872 He has declined to make a last statement. 709 00:51:59,153 --> 00:52:02,877 He's afforded the opportunity for prayer. 710 00:52:02,954 --> 00:52:05,553 The condemned has declined this also. 711 00:52:20,433 --> 00:52:24,393 We have now completed the first phase of the execution. 712 00:52:26,313 --> 00:52:30,273 We have now completed the second phase of the execution. 713 00:52:31,714 --> 00:52:32,837 We have now completed the third... 714 00:52:32,913 --> 00:52:35,513 and final phase of the execution. 715 00:52:40,273 --> 00:52:44,476 One of the physicians is now making his examination. 716 00:52:44,553 --> 00:52:47,356 Now the second is making his check. 717 00:52:47,433 --> 00:52:51,277 Now the third and final physician is making his check. 718 00:52:51,354 --> 00:52:53,197 Examination is completed. 719 00:52:53,274 --> 00:52:55,117 The superintendent has advised the witnesses... 720 00:52:55,194 --> 00:52:58,832 that death did occur at 12:24 on this date. 721 00:53:21,353 --> 00:53:25,074 When I got home, I found a map in my mailbox. 722 00:53:26,233 --> 00:53:29,117 There was a mark on it that said, "Missed one." 723 00:53:29,194 --> 00:53:30,556 And then my phone rang. 724 00:53:30,633 --> 00:53:33,036 They said you gotta get down here and see this. 725 00:53:33,113 --> 00:53:34,277 It was another body. 726 00:53:34,353 --> 00:53:35,876 I knew right away. 727 00:53:35,953 --> 00:53:38,916 Death by lethal injection. 728 00:53:38,993 --> 00:53:40,676 After three stays of execution, 729 00:53:40,753 --> 00:53:42,636 the death warrant has now been issued, 730 00:53:42,713 --> 00:53:46,036 and James Foley will be put to death within the hour. 731 00:53:46,113 --> 00:53:49,596 In 1996, a jury convicted and sentenced Foley to death... 732 00:53:49,673 --> 00:53:50,957 for the brutal murders of four women... 733 00:53:51,034 --> 00:53:53,277 in Pennsylvania and Upstate New York. 734 00:53:53,354 --> 00:53:55,997 Authorities believe the death toll to be much higher. 735 00:53:56,074 --> 00:53:58,477 We need to stop killing everyone. 736 00:53:58,554 --> 00:53:59,997 And if the government sanctions it... 737 00:54:00,074 --> 00:54:02,877 it just gives everyone a taste for blood. 738 00:54:02,954 --> 00:54:05,236 Pennsylvania's third execution in 25 years. 739 00:54:05,313 --> 00:54:06,957 Right after I go work, 740 00:54:07,033 --> 00:54:10,637 police come in and handing me DNA sample, 741 00:54:10,713 --> 00:54:13,316 and demanding I do immediate. 742 00:54:13,393 --> 00:54:15,516 I was very stressful. 743 00:54:15,593 --> 00:54:19,554 And it turn out same as Water Street Butcher, James Foley. 744 00:54:20,673 --> 00:54:22,037 We're still not sure. 745 00:54:22,113 --> 00:54:23,717 Apparently he had gone to a fertility clinic... 746 00:54:23,794 --> 00:54:28,117 some years before, we think maybe that's how. 747 00:54:28,194 --> 00:54:29,916 But we're still not sure. 748 00:54:29,993 --> 00:54:32,836 Three days after my dad's execution, 749 00:54:32,913 --> 00:54:35,917 they realize that he had been innocent. 750 00:54:35,994 --> 00:54:38,117 They were gonna put out a thing in the paper the next day, 751 00:54:38,194 --> 00:54:40,916 and then 9/11 happened. 752 00:54:40,993 --> 00:54:44,953 So, the article on dad gets bumped down to page six. 753 00:54:46,233 --> 00:54:49,873 Former cop cleared of charges after execution. 754 00:54:50,794 --> 00:54:53,837 People still jokingly when I say my name they'll ask, 755 00:54:53,913 --> 00:54:56,717 any relation to the Water Street Butcher? 756 00:54:56,793 --> 00:55:00,477 And I tell them, Jim Foley wasn't the Water Street Butcher. 757 00:55:00,554 --> 00:55:04,514 Nobody heard that they found him innocent, 'cause of 9/11. 758 00:55:05,713 --> 00:55:07,437 Any other week in American history... 759 00:55:07,513 --> 00:55:09,956 and this would've been a serious national sensation. 760 00:55:10,033 --> 00:55:13,594 Serial killer kills cop using justice system. 761 00:55:15,153 --> 00:55:16,477 Come on. 762 00:55:16,553 --> 00:55:18,717 But then September 11th happened, 763 00:55:18,794 --> 00:55:22,436 and no one gave a shit about anything else. 764 00:55:22,513 --> 00:55:24,157 You know, after 10 or more years... 765 00:55:24,233 --> 00:55:27,516 of planning and executing what I considered to be... 766 00:55:27,593 --> 00:55:31,676 the crime of the century, nobody even heard about it. 767 00:55:31,753 --> 00:55:35,713 See, when people read there's a serial killer in town, 768 00:55:36,673 --> 00:55:40,077 their guards go up, which was happening. 769 00:55:40,153 --> 00:55:41,597 But then when they read the serial killer... 770 00:55:41,673 --> 00:55:45,396 only preys on prostitutes, if you're not a prostitute, 771 00:55:45,473 --> 00:55:48,077 your defenses are going to go back down. 772 00:55:48,154 --> 00:55:51,757 So he created this Water Street Butcher persona... 773 00:55:51,834 --> 00:55:55,676 to assuage people's fears about this unknown killer. 774 00:55:55,753 --> 00:55:59,713 So that he could continue to prey on everyone else. 775 00:56:02,833 --> 00:56:03,557 - Hi. - Hi, 776 00:56:03,634 --> 00:56:04,436 you having some car trouble? 777 00:56:04,513 --> 00:56:06,596 Oh yeah, my car just died. 778 00:56:06,673 --> 00:56:07,637 I don't know what's wrong with it. 779 00:56:07,713 --> 00:56:09,437 Oh, you need me to call you a tow truck? 780 00:56:09,513 --> 00:56:10,876 Oh, Officer, thank you. 781 00:56:10,953 --> 00:56:12,516 That would be great. 782 00:56:12,593 --> 00:56:13,876 I've been stuck here for over an hour. 783 00:56:13,953 --> 00:56:15,676 You know, you really shouldn't be out here... 784 00:56:15,753 --> 00:56:17,316 by yourself with that Water Street Butcher... 785 00:56:17,393 --> 00:56:19,033 on the loose and all. 786 00:56:21,433 --> 00:56:23,277 I thought he just attacked prostitutes? 787 00:56:23,353 --> 00:56:24,517 Hey, look, there's a gas station... 788 00:56:24,593 --> 00:56:26,477 a mile down where you'll be safe. 789 00:56:26,554 --> 00:56:27,596 Let me drop you there, 790 00:56:27,673 --> 00:56:30,196 then you won't have to wait out here alone. 791 00:56:30,273 --> 00:56:31,876 You wouldn't mind? 792 00:56:31,953 --> 00:56:32,796 Not at all. 793 00:56:32,873 --> 00:56:34,837 Oh, thank you, okay. 794 00:56:34,914 --> 00:56:36,516 I have a lot of stuff up here, 795 00:56:36,593 --> 00:56:39,597 would you mind jumping into the back? 796 00:56:39,673 --> 00:56:41,393 Sure, sure, why not. 797 00:56:48,354 --> 00:56:49,113 Thank you. 798 00:56:53,554 --> 00:56:56,436 This is what it looks like to be arrested, huh? 799 00:56:56,513 --> 00:56:58,353 Hey, you ever been arrested? 800 00:57:00,433 --> 00:57:03,556 Not that I care to admit to. 801 00:57:03,633 --> 00:57:07,554 I once got arrested for drinking underage, but that's it. 802 00:57:18,273 --> 00:57:20,633 Wow, I've had such a long day. 803 00:57:31,993 --> 00:57:35,396 I think, I think that was the exit to the gas station. 804 00:57:35,473 --> 00:57:39,516 Excuse me, wasn't that the exit to the gas station? 805 00:57:39,593 --> 00:57:41,313 I guess it was. 806 00:57:45,353 --> 00:57:46,397 Perhaps you better turn around. 807 00:57:46,473 --> 00:57:49,756 You know, can I ask you something? 808 00:57:49,833 --> 00:57:50,637 What? 809 00:57:50,713 --> 00:57:51,796 Would you please turn around? 810 00:57:51,873 --> 00:57:53,677 Why did you call me Officer? 811 00:57:53,753 --> 00:57:54,757 Sorry, what do you mean? 812 00:57:54,833 --> 00:57:56,157 Well, before you got into the car, 813 00:57:56,233 --> 00:57:58,676 you called me Officer. 814 00:57:58,753 --> 00:58:00,756 Why did you call me that? 815 00:58:00,833 --> 00:58:04,316 I thought police liked it when you called them that. 816 00:58:04,393 --> 00:58:05,836 Well, they do. 817 00:58:05,913 --> 00:58:07,153 But I'm not cop. 818 00:58:09,954 --> 00:58:10,914 You're not? 819 00:58:11,793 --> 00:58:12,553 No. 820 00:58:15,034 --> 00:58:17,316 That's not very funny. 821 00:58:17,393 --> 00:58:20,073 Well, I'm not trying to be. 822 00:58:29,153 --> 00:58:30,756 I'm sorry, I don't understand. 823 00:58:30,833 --> 00:58:32,233 What are you then? 824 00:58:33,233 --> 00:58:34,873 I'm a butcher. 825 00:58:51,233 --> 00:58:52,397 That's not funny. 826 00:58:52,474 --> 00:58:54,236 Yeah, no, it's not. 827 00:58:54,313 --> 00:58:57,353 You shouldn't get into stranger's cars. 828 00:59:01,073 --> 00:59:02,276 You're not a cop? 829 00:59:02,353 --> 00:59:04,437 Didn't you learn about assumptions? 830 00:59:04,513 --> 00:59:06,793 They make an ass of u and me. 831 00:59:12,913 --> 00:59:14,636 Where are you going? 832 00:59:14,713 --> 00:59:16,113 You'll see. 833 00:59:24,593 --> 00:59:25,837 Please don't do this. 834 00:59:25,913 --> 00:59:26,636 Sir? 835 00:59:26,713 --> 00:59:27,716 Please don't hurt me. 836 00:59:27,793 --> 00:59:28,836 I'm... 837 00:59:28,913 --> 00:59:31,317 I'm, I'm a good person, I have a family, 838 00:59:31,393 --> 00:59:33,076 and they'll tell someone I'm missing. 839 00:59:33,153 --> 00:59:35,796 I'm so sorry, perhaps I made you want to do this... 840 00:59:35,873 --> 00:59:37,276 Well how about this, I'll make you a deal. 841 00:59:37,353 --> 00:59:38,076 Yeah? 842 00:59:38,153 --> 00:59:41,156 We'll pull over, and I'm gonna rape you. 843 00:59:41,233 --> 00:59:44,637 But then, then if you've been good, 844 00:59:44,713 --> 00:59:48,673 and you haven't done anything stupid, I won't kill you. 845 00:59:52,193 --> 00:59:52,953 Okay. 846 00:59:54,913 --> 00:59:56,796 You think I'd fall for that? 847 00:59:56,873 --> 00:59:59,076 You're not just gonna let me rape you. 848 00:59:59,153 --> 01:00:00,036 Yes I am. 849 01:00:00,113 --> 01:00:02,233 I don't believe you. 850 01:00:03,913 --> 01:00:04,673 Why? 851 01:00:10,673 --> 01:00:14,476 You know, to be perfectly honest, 852 01:00:14,553 --> 01:00:16,756 I don't think either of us are gonna want you alive... 853 01:00:16,833 --> 01:00:19,833 for the things I'm going to do to you. 854 01:00:28,752 --> 01:00:29,996 I'm so sorry! 855 01:00:30,073 --> 01:00:30,956 Please, let me... 856 01:00:31,033 --> 01:00:32,436 Obviously I wouldn't... 857 01:00:32,513 --> 01:00:34,472 leave handles on the doors. 858 01:00:46,793 --> 01:00:48,957 Somebody help me! 859 01:00:49,033 --> 01:00:49,793 Help me! 860 01:00:53,073 --> 01:00:55,233 Oh my god, somebody help me! 861 01:00:58,793 --> 01:00:59,553 No! 862 01:01:07,393 --> 01:01:08,476 Help me! 863 01:01:08,553 --> 01:01:10,152 Somebody help me! 864 01:03:08,913 --> 01:03:12,557 This killer knows how to play the profile... 865 01:03:12,633 --> 01:03:15,556 in exactly the way he wants, 866 01:03:15,633 --> 01:03:17,796 just like a really good actor... 867 01:03:17,872 --> 01:03:22,436 can make you think they're really crying, or laughing. 868 01:03:22,512 --> 01:03:24,316 To give you an example of what I mean, 869 01:03:24,393 --> 01:03:27,393 let me read a coupe of these profiles. 870 01:03:29,512 --> 01:03:32,836 Suspect is a while male, age 18 to 25. 871 01:03:32,913 --> 01:03:35,116 White male, age 25 to 35. 872 01:03:35,193 --> 01:03:37,636 Black male, age 25 to 30. 873 01:03:37,713 --> 01:03:39,396 Disorganized, highly organized. 874 01:03:39,473 --> 01:03:41,956 Serial killer, most likely his first time killing. 875 01:03:42,033 --> 01:03:44,436 First killing, definitely not his first killing. 876 01:03:44,513 --> 01:03:46,876 Lives alone, probably in a very messy house. 877 01:03:46,952 --> 01:03:48,676 His home will be clean and kempt. 878 01:03:48,753 --> 01:03:50,876 Sadist, sadistic, sadist. 879 01:03:50,953 --> 01:03:52,716 Has most likely been institutionalized... 880 01:03:52,793 --> 01:03:54,436 for a good portion of his life. 881 01:03:54,513 --> 01:03:56,836 Highly functional, may have limited faculties. 882 01:03:56,913 --> 01:03:59,156 Highly intelligent, probably highly educated. 883 01:03:59,233 --> 01:04:00,556 Most likely never finished high school. 884 01:04:00,633 --> 01:04:02,796 Most likely works in law enforcement, 885 01:04:02,873 --> 01:04:05,476 possibly a police officer or a security guard. 886 01:04:05,553 --> 01:04:07,796 Probably lives off some sort of disability. 887 01:04:07,873 --> 01:04:09,156 Most likely can not hold a job. 888 01:04:09,233 --> 01:04:13,752 Knows profiling, and may be employed as an FBI profiler. 889 01:04:25,273 --> 01:04:27,836 I went back to the map that the killer had sent me. 890 01:04:27,913 --> 01:04:30,356 It was made online using MapQuest. 891 01:04:30,432 --> 01:04:31,756 So I put in a call to the FBI 892 01:04:31,833 --> 01:04:33,916 to see what we could get from this. 893 01:04:33,992 --> 01:04:36,076 They got the records from MapQuest, 894 01:04:36,153 --> 01:04:37,916 and only one download was made... 895 01:04:37,993 --> 01:04:41,916 from that exact map during the month in question. 896 01:04:41,993 --> 01:04:44,156 My name is Captain Harvey Scroggs. 897 01:04:44,233 --> 01:04:45,836 I lead the assault on the house. 898 01:04:45,912 --> 01:04:49,872 As I like to say, we dropped the whole hammer on him. 899 01:04:50,992 --> 01:04:54,793 Helicopters, SWAT, dogs, bomb squad, everything. 900 01:04:56,713 --> 01:04:57,712 Just in case. 901 01:05:16,153 --> 01:05:16,876 It's clear! 902 01:05:16,953 --> 01:05:17,676 - Clear. - Clear. 903 01:05:17,752 --> 01:05:19,153 Clear. 904 01:05:22,792 --> 01:05:24,076 - Clear. - Clear. 905 01:05:24,153 --> 01:05:24,996 All clear. 906 01:05:25,073 --> 01:05:27,673 People ask me how we found him, 907 01:05:28,633 --> 01:05:31,956 and I say, first, we didn't find him. 908 01:05:32,033 --> 01:05:33,196 Just this house. 909 01:05:33,273 --> 01:05:37,072 And second, we didn't find it, he gave it to us. 910 01:05:38,553 --> 01:05:40,796 He wanted us to find it. 911 01:05:40,873 --> 01:05:43,596 And that's further evidenced by the fact that there... 912 01:05:43,672 --> 01:05:47,632 was not one single fingerprint in the entire house. 913 01:05:48,752 --> 01:05:52,916 Over here on the wall, got a little bit of blood here. 914 01:05:52,992 --> 01:05:55,876 And here, point the camera down Sean, point it down. 915 01:05:55,953 --> 01:05:59,156 Got one, two, three, four, five boxes of videotapes... 916 01:05:59,233 --> 01:06:00,676 numbered sequentially... 917 01:06:00,753 --> 01:06:01,756 Hey guys. 918 01:06:01,833 --> 01:06:03,276 Hey guys, come here. 919 01:06:03,353 --> 01:06:04,912 Come on. 920 01:06:08,912 --> 01:06:10,396 Get in here Sean. 921 01:06:10,473 --> 01:06:11,675 Get over here. 922 01:06:11,752 --> 01:06:12,513 Over here. 923 01:06:13,593 --> 01:06:14,716 Ready? 924 01:06:14,792 --> 01:06:15,553 Go. 925 01:06:18,553 --> 01:06:19,312 My god. 926 01:06:20,473 --> 01:06:22,433 Is she alive? 927 01:06:24,033 --> 01:06:25,476 Oh my god she is. 928 01:06:25,553 --> 01:06:26,316 We need a medic in here. 929 01:06:26,393 --> 01:06:28,351 Get a medic in here now! 930 01:06:35,352 --> 01:06:36,796 Oh, people kept trying to tell me... 931 01:06:36,872 --> 01:06:40,436 all those years that Cheryl was probably dead. 932 01:06:40,513 --> 01:06:43,673 That I should probably start to move on. 933 01:06:45,072 --> 01:06:46,756 But I wouldn't. 934 01:06:46,833 --> 01:06:50,793 I keep telling everyone, I have to keep hope until I know. 935 01:06:53,352 --> 01:06:55,756 But then I got the call. 936 01:06:55,833 --> 01:06:58,916 The officer said, we found your daughter. 937 01:06:58,993 --> 01:07:01,513 And I thought he meant her body. 938 01:07:04,272 --> 01:07:07,116 I have never seen a human being... 939 01:07:07,192 --> 01:07:10,196 born and raised in the United States... 940 01:07:10,273 --> 01:07:13,076 show evidence of this kind of torture. 941 01:07:13,153 --> 01:07:14,996 She had been burned, cut, 942 01:07:15,073 --> 01:07:19,636 she had five teeth removed by pliers or a hammer. 943 01:07:19,713 --> 01:07:21,236 She had multiple broken bones. 944 01:07:21,312 --> 01:07:24,116 Not only that none of them have been allowed to heal, 945 01:07:24,192 --> 01:07:26,236 some have been further aggravated... 946 01:07:26,313 --> 01:07:29,596 by some sort of tightening apparatus. 947 01:07:29,672 --> 01:07:33,555 She had also been extremely malnourished, 948 01:07:33,632 --> 01:07:37,476 and her organs were in really bad shape as a result. 949 01:07:37,553 --> 01:07:40,473 There also was severe sexual torture. 950 01:07:41,712 --> 01:07:45,716 Including things like electrocution of genitals, 951 01:07:45,793 --> 01:07:49,633 and things that are too horrible to say out loud. 952 01:07:57,033 --> 01:07:58,795 While she was in the hospital, 953 01:07:58,872 --> 01:08:01,596 a lot of her injuries seemed to get worse instead of better, 954 01:08:01,673 --> 01:08:03,796 and we couldn't figure it out. 955 01:08:03,873 --> 01:08:07,316 Then I realized that pain, not just pain, but brutal pain, 956 01:08:07,392 --> 01:08:09,475 had been such a huge part of her life for so long... 957 01:08:09,552 --> 01:08:11,675 she didn't know how to exist without it. 958 01:08:11,752 --> 01:08:14,196 She no longer knew how to exist in the world... 959 01:08:14,272 --> 01:08:16,676 if not through horrific pain. 960 01:08:16,753 --> 01:08:20,236 She was torturing herself when nobody was looking. 961 01:08:20,312 --> 01:08:24,272 It was very strange, seeing Cheryl after all that time. 962 01:08:25,673 --> 01:08:26,956 You know, the time that she was missing, 963 01:08:27,032 --> 01:08:29,156 I went from being a carefree college girl... 964 01:08:29,232 --> 01:08:31,593 to having two girls of my own. 965 01:08:33,113 --> 01:08:34,916 It was hard to see the girl that I loved... 966 01:08:34,992 --> 01:08:36,832 and the girl that came back. 967 01:09:01,832 --> 01:09:03,716 I don't know. 968 01:09:03,792 --> 01:09:07,436 I don't know what you want me to say. 969 01:09:07,513 --> 01:09:11,472 Talk about what it's like being home again. 970 01:09:12,313 --> 01:09:14,156 I don't know. 971 01:09:14,233 --> 01:09:16,352 What do you want me to say? 972 01:09:17,512 --> 01:09:18,236 It had to be nice... 973 01:09:18,312 --> 01:09:19,796 seeing your mom again after all that time. 974 01:09:19,873 --> 01:09:20,632 Yeah. 975 01:09:22,913 --> 01:09:23,632 Maybe. 976 01:09:25,392 --> 01:09:28,915 I don't know what you want me to say. 977 01:09:28,992 --> 01:09:29,715 What was the man... 978 01:09:29,792 --> 01:09:32,633 you lived with all these years like? 979 01:09:37,833 --> 01:09:38,716 I don't know. 980 01:09:38,793 --> 01:09:41,556 I don't think that I want to do this anymore. 981 01:09:41,632 --> 01:09:43,035 Why? 982 01:09:43,112 --> 01:09:46,916 'Cause I don't know what you want me to say. 983 01:09:46,992 --> 01:09:50,632 You can say anything you want. 984 01:09:52,832 --> 01:09:53,913 He loved me. 985 01:09:55,232 --> 01:09:58,395 Nobody ever lets me say it, but it's true. 986 01:09:58,472 --> 01:09:59,393 He loved me. 987 01:10:00,873 --> 01:10:03,315 He didn't mean to leave me. 988 01:10:03,392 --> 01:10:06,676 And someday he's gonna come back to me. 989 01:10:06,752 --> 01:10:08,953 And he's gonna take me away. 990 01:10:46,112 --> 01:10:48,236 Well, another tragedy for this small family in Reading, 991 01:10:48,312 --> 01:10:49,835 Take a look here at the crime scene. 992 01:10:49,912 --> 01:10:51,916 The recently buried body of Cheryl Dempsey... 993 01:10:51,992 --> 01:10:53,395 was stolen from her grave. 994 01:10:53,472 --> 01:10:56,036 It happened here last night at Woodlawn Cemetery. 995 01:10:56,112 --> 01:10:58,076 The only thing left behind a broken casket. 996 01:10:58,152 --> 01:10:59,476 As you can see, a real mess. 997 01:10:59,552 --> 01:11:01,436 Police are now investigating a possible link... 998 01:11:01,513 --> 01:11:04,075 between this demented crime and a serial killer... 999 01:11:04,152 --> 01:11:06,076 who has been tormenting the East Coast... 1000 01:11:06,153 --> 01:11:08,151 known as the Water Street Butcher. 1001 01:11:15,992 --> 01:11:19,236 My feeling is that he's moved somewhere else. 1002 01:11:19,312 --> 01:11:22,836 I doubt very strongly that he's stopped killing. 1003 01:11:22,913 --> 01:11:27,275 I doubt very strongly that anyone even knows he's there. 1004 01:11:27,352 --> 01:11:29,473 But in some town out there, 1005 01:11:30,792 --> 01:11:34,275 the disappearance and murder rates are rising, 1006 01:11:34,352 --> 01:11:38,836 and somewhere out there he's responsible for it. 1007 01:11:38,912 --> 01:11:40,636 Something I find interesting about these tapes... 1008 01:11:40,713 --> 01:11:41,996 is that they're numbered sequentially, 1009 01:11:42,072 --> 01:11:46,032 but there were 27 tapes missing when we found them. 1010 01:11:48,632 --> 01:11:51,596 I wonder what was on those tapes. 1011 01:11:51,672 --> 01:11:53,035 I wonder if they were just too private... 1012 01:11:53,112 --> 01:11:55,152 for him to let anyone see. 1013 01:11:56,712 --> 01:11:59,036 Or if his face was visible in those, 1014 01:11:59,113 --> 01:12:02,592 or if they revealed just too much about him. 1015 01:12:04,552 --> 01:12:08,636 Or maybe they were worse than anything that we've seen. 1016 01:12:08,713 --> 01:12:11,116 I'll tell you one place we'll be watching. 1017 01:12:11,193 --> 01:12:12,876 If this documentary thing you're making... 1018 01:12:12,953 --> 01:12:15,115 ever gets to the theaters, 1019 01:12:15,192 --> 01:12:18,076 he won't be able to help himself. 1020 01:12:18,152 --> 01:12:21,712 He'll see this movie as many times as he can. 1021 01:12:22,592 --> 01:12:24,676 We'll keep an eye on as many screenings as we can, 1022 01:12:24,753 --> 01:12:26,553 because he'll be there. 1023 01:17:05,072 --> 01:17:06,995 I'll make you a deal. 1024 01:17:07,072 --> 01:17:10,511 You can live as long as you don't blink.