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(ELEVATOR BELL DINGS)
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JAN: It's like this.
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A dead plaintiff is rarely worth as much as a living,
severely-maimed plaintiff.
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However, if it's a long,
agonizing death,
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as opposed to a quick
drowning or car wreck,
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the value can rise
considerably.
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A dead adult in his 20s is generally
worth less than one who is middle-aged.
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A dead woman
less than a dead man.
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A single adult less than
one who's married.
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Black less than white,
poor less than rich.
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(CHATTERING)
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But the perfect victim
is a white male professional,
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40 years old, at the height
of his earning power,
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struck down on his prime
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and the most imperfect?
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(ELEVATOR BELL DINGS)
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Well, in the calculus
of personal injury law,
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a dead child is worth
the least of all.
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EDDIE: A million dollars he turns down.
One million dollars.
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I don't believe that story for a second.
It's true.
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Come on! It's true.
He turned down...
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Hey, Eddie.
Hey. How you doing?
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(WHISPERING) Good.
Do me a favor, will ya? Yeah.
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Shut the fuck up. That's our banker over
there keeping an eye on the collateral.
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He doesn't know Jan turned down a million.
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Oh, sorry. Sorry.
Shh. Yeah.
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Asshole.
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(MURMURING)
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(WHISPERING)
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How's your headrest?
(SOFTLY) I want it up.
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Up?
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JAN: How's that? Okay?
(SOFTLY) Okay.
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Are you comfortable?
Yeah. My button.
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Oh, the button. Open?
Open.
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Here we go.
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BAILIFF: All rise.
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This court is now in session.
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The honorable Constance
Mullen presiding.
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(WHISPERING)
Would you like some water?
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BAILIFF: Carney v.
Massachusetts General Hospital.
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Case number 81-27-25.
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Attorneys, please state your appearance.
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Randolph Woodside,
Mass General.
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Greg Monk,
Massachusetts General Hospital.
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Harout Beshlia,
Mass General.
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Jan Schlichtmann
for Paul Carney.
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Kevin Conway for Mr. Carney,
Your Honor.
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MULLEN: Mr. Schlichtmann,
the court's ready for your opening statement.
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(SNIFFLING)
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(SNIFFLING CONTINUES)
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(SIGHS) Your Honor,
if it please the court,
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the parties involved
have agreed to a settlement.
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(CHATTERING AND LAUGHING)
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(ALL LAUGHING)
ALL: Hey.
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♪ Got a two-ton hammer
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♪ Got meat by the pound
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♪ I'm a hard work
drivin' man
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♪ Six foot solid
from the ground
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(CHATTERING CONTINUES)
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♪ Work my hammer
from factory
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♪ Farmin', always
wanna fight
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♪ Swallowed up some
TV dinner
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♪ Swing my hammer
strong at night
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Personal injury law
has a bad reputation.
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They call us "ambulance chasers,"
"bottom feeders,"
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"vultures who prey
on the misfortunes of others."
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Well, if that's true,
why do I lie awake nights worrying about my clients?
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Why does their pain
become my pain?
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I wish I could find some way not to empathize.
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It'd be a lot easier.
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♪ When I was a schoolboy
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♪ Teacher said study
hard as you can
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♪ It didn't make
no difference
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♪ I'm just a hard work
drivin' man ♪
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RADIO SHOW HOST:
You're speaking with Jan Schlichtmann,
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personal injury attorney, and,
according to Boston Magazine...
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Have you seen this?
"One of Boston's 10 most eligible bachelors."
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Senor.
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(SPEAKING SPANISH)
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RADIO SHOW HOST:
Let's go back to the phones.
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Woburn, you're on the air.
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Hello, Mr. Schlichtmann,
it's Anne Anderson.
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Well, hello, Anne.
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How are you? Very well.
How are you? Sounds pretty.
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Mmm-hmm.
How come you never call me?
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Well, believe me,
if I had your number, I would call you.
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You do have it.
I do?
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You have no idea who I am.
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Is this Ricky?
(SCOFFS) No.
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See, my son died of leukemia two years ago,
Mr. Schlichtmann.
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Your firm
is handling the case.
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JAN: We, we are?
ANNE: Uh-huh.
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The reason I'm calling you here is because
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my calls to your offices have gone
unreturned for the last several weeks now.
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I'm sorry. What, what was your name?
Uh, Anne.
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Anne. Anne?
Anderson.
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Anne Anderson.
I'm writing that down as we speak.
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I'm gonna take
care of this.
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Hey, I have an idea.
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Why don't you come up to Woburn one of these days
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and actually meet a few of those
people whose pain is your pain?
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(SIGHS)
Jan?
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(CAR HORN HONKING)
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JAN: Let me try and picture
how this happened.
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She called you.
She cried.
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You felt sorry for her,
and you cried.
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And now she's mad at me.
Now that makes sense. This is a good case.
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She's not crying now. I can tell you that.
An orphan, but a good one.
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Twelve deaths over 15 years from leukemia.
Eight of them children.
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Is that unusual?
Apparently, statistically.
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CONWAY: It's a very small town.
This woman lost a child?
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They think it has something to
do with the city's drinking water,
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which they say
has always tasted funny.
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What was she like before?
I'd like to know that.
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Do you wanna hear what it's about?
No, I don't.
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I'd, I'd like to hear
about it.
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Thank you, Kathy.
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(SIGHS) There's a report here from state inspectors
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that says that the water from
two city wells is contaminated,
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or was before they shut them down,
with something called...
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I can't pronounce this.
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Trichloroethyline?
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Ethylene?
Which the EPA lists as a probable carcinogen.
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GORDON: No, no, no. Let me stop you right there.
CONWAY: There's more.
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I don't need to hear it.
From a financial standpoint,
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I can tell you right now this is not a sound investment.
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GORDON: "Probable" is just
a euphemism for "unproven."
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To prove something like this,
you need new medical research.
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Is that the business we're in,
the medical research business?
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And, and you have to ask yourself,
why is this an orphan?
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Why has it been kicked from firm to
firm before it ended up on your desk?
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JAN:
Gordon's right.
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I mean, I can appreciate the
theatrical value of several dead kids.
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I mean, I like that.
Obviously, that's good.
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But that's all this case
has going for it.
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That's not enough.
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I'll get rid of it.
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I'll, uh... I'll just
go up there, and...
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And then she'll start to cry again,
and then you'll start to cry again.
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And then she'll be mad at me again,
so I'll do it. I... I'll get rid of it.
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Give it to me.
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(FILE THUDS ON DESK)
Thank you.
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(CAR APPROACHING QUICKLY)
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Here you go, sir.
Thank you.
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Drive careful, now.
Oh, yeah.
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(ENGINE STARTS)
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(SIGHS)
Whee!
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ANNE: When I stand
on my front porch,
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I can see all the houses
where children have died.
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These are the, the Kanes,
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the Toomeys, the Zonas,
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the Robbins
and the Aufieros.
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Now, I wanna be clear.
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I'm not interested in money.
None of us are.
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That's not why we're
doing this. What we want
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is to know what happened.
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And we want an apology.
From who?
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From whoever did this.
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I want somebody to come to my house,
knock on the door and say, "We're responsible.
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"We did this. We didn't mean it,
but we did it and we're sorry."
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But who is that?
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Well, we don't know.
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(CLEARS THROAT)
Mrs. Anderson.
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Our firm is very small.
Three attorneys. That's it.
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Which means that we can only
take on so many cases at once.
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And we have to be very careful about the ones we do
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because, frankly,
we can't afford to lose.
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Our clients pay nothing.
We pay everything.
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And we only get paid back if we win or settle.
I know that.
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No. You want an apology.
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And there's nothing more I'd like to do than
to get you that apology, but from who?
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Who is going to apologize
to you and pay me?
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There has to be a defendant,
and one with very deep pockets.
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This is not an inexpensive case to try.
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Uh, there's an
old tannery out there.
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A tannery.
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And some other
small factories.
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(SIGHS)
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I really wish I could
help you, but I can't.
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I'm sorry.
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Maybe you could go out there
for just a few minutes.
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To the river,
to the wells and take a look.
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For what? What would that...
What would that accomplish?
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I do hope you find
someone, and I am sorry.
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(FOOTSTEPS RECEDING)
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(DOOR OPENS AND CLOSES)
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(INDISTINCT VOICE
OVER POLICE RADIO)
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Thank you very much.
Drive carefully.
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(DOOR CLOSES)
(ENGINE STARTS)
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(SPLASH)
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Oh, God damn it!
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Shoes.
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(ENGINE REVVING)
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(REVVING CONTINUES)
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MAN: (SHOUTING)
All clear!
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(SHOUTING INDISTINCTLY)
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MAN:
Last ones on the train!
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(TRAIN BELL RINGING)
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JAN: It was fate.
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I was meant to get that
ticket at that moment.
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At that exact spot
in the road.
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Do you know
who Beatrice is?
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Peter Pan peanut butter,
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Tropicana orange juice,
Rosarita Mexican food,
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Swiss Miss cocoa, Samsonite luggage,
Playtex bras, Culligan water.
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The list goes on.
And the other one?
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JAN: W. R. Grace.
Chemicals and manufacturing with plants
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in two dozen states,
South America, Europe and Japan.
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What's this?
That's the ticket.
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No.
I've got the speeding ticket right here.
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No, I got two
speeding tickets.
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Oh, it was a two-ticket town
like that other place.
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Exactly.
You don't wanna take your Caddie there.
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Kevin, this is a gold mine.
You almost let it get away.
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I almost
let it get away.
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JAN: Lawsuits are war.
It's as simple as that.
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And they begin the same way.
With a declaration of war.
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The complaint.
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When you're a small firm
and they're a big one,
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steeped in history and wealth like they always are
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with their Persian carpets
on the floor
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and their Harvard diplomas
hanging on the walls,
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it's easy to be intimidated.
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Don't.
That's what they want.
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That's what they expect,
like all bullies.
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That's how they win.
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I don't run away
from bullies.
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(RADIO ANNOUNCER
TALKING INDISTINCTLY)
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(TURNS DOWN VOLUME)
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(FOOTSTEPS APPROACHING)
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Mr. Facher?
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Mr. Doyle asked me
to bring this to you.
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When?
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When did he ask me?
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Yeah.
Just now.
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On your lunch break?
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That hardly seems fair.
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I almost never go to lunch, sir.
Too much to do. Oh.
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I just grab something.
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You know, if I were you,
I'd make a point
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of taking that hour or so away from all
the noise and insanity of this place.
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I should do that.
I'd find a place for myself where I could go
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that was relatively quiet
and peaceful.
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Have a sandwich,
read a magazine.
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Maybe listen to a game
out at Fenway, if one was on.
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Hmm? And I'd make sure
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everyone knew I didn't want to be
disturbed during that hour or so of solitude.
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Because that would be my
time, my own private time,
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which no one,
if they had any sense of self-preservation at all
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(CHUCKLING)
would dare interrupt.
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If I were you.
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(WHISPERING) I'm sorry.
Oh, shh, shh.
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(SIGHS)
(ANNOUNCER CONTINUES)
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RADIO ANNOUNCER:
Oh, and strike one.
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CHEESEMAN: Jesus.
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Jesus.
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Jesus.
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(BELL TOLLING)
(BALL BOUNCING)
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(OVER TELEPHONE) Mr. Facher, it's, uh,
Bill Cheeseman.
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Foley, Hoag and Eliot.
Uh, we represent W. R. Grace.
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How ya doing?
Well, all right, I guess,
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under the circumstances.
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00:18:42,413 --> 00:18:44,915
Oh, what circumstances
are those?
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00:18:44,915 --> 00:18:47,251
Uh, Woburn. These,
uh, outrageous charges.
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This bloodsucking ambulance chaser Schlichtmann.
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FACHER: Who?
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We're, we're codefendants
in a lawsuit, Mr. Facher.
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A very serious lawsuit.
What?
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Uh, (STAMMERS) what
is that thumping?
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Yeah, well, it's gone now.
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(CHUCKLING) It's...
It was driving me crazy.
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Uh, listen.
I was wondering if I could talk to you about something.
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Uh, do you think we could get together for a drink or a...
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FACHER:
Well, what's on your mind?
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Well, uh, I'll tell you
what I'm thinking.
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Are you familiar with rule 11?
With what?
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Uh, rule 11.
It's a civil provision
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designed to, uh, prevent frivolous and
irresponsible lawsuits, like this one,
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and, uh, to sanction quite
severely those who file them.
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Uh-huh.
Uh, Mr., uh, Cheeseman.
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Cheese-Man, is it?
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00:19:36,467 --> 00:19:40,096
It's Cheeseman.
Oh, it's Cheese-man. What is a fine?
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When you get a fine, what do you do?
You pay it and go about your business.
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Uh, if you're gonna
knock a guy down,
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do it so he can't
get up again.
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00:19:51,482 --> 00:19:53,776
What are you looking for
with this suit?
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00:19:53,776 --> 00:19:57,071
Well, obviously,
we'll be seeking compensation for the families.
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And punitive damages for the willful
negligence of these two companies.
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JAN: But is that what this is really all about... Money?
ALL: No.
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Is that what matters most to any of us?
ALL: No.
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It's about this.
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(SIGHS)
And this.
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And this.
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Yeah.
Mmm-hmm. Yeah.
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JAN: Yeah, I know.
We have no feelings.
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No compassion. No empathy
for our client's suffering.
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Can I say something?
What does that have to do with anything?
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In fact, the lawyer who shares his client's pain,
in my opinion,
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does his client
such a grave disservice.
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He should have his license
to practice law taken away.
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00:20:44,869 --> 00:20:45,828
It clouds his judgment.
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00:20:45,828 --> 00:20:47,580
And that's as beneficial
to his client
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as a doctor who recoils
at the sight of blood.
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BAILIFF:
All rise.
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This court is now in session.
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The honorable
Walter. J. Skinner presiding.
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SKINNER: Is this the
only case?
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This is a lot of lawyers.
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(LAUGHING)
Sit down.
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Mr. Facher.
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Your Honor.
You're looking well.
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00:21:13,105 --> 00:21:15,733
The Red Sox must
be in first place.
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00:21:15,733 --> 00:21:18,903
Mmm, Roger Clemens
is the answer to my prayers.
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00:21:18,903 --> 00:21:20,613
(SKINNER LAUGHING)
316
00:21:20,613 --> 00:21:22,239
You have some interest
in this case?
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00:21:22,239 --> 00:21:26,577
I'm a codefendant, so I guess I do have an interest,
but it's not my motion.
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It's Foley Hoag's.
And that motion is?
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Your Honor, if I might,
my name is Jan Schlichtmann. I know. Sit down.
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00:21:33,375 --> 00:21:34,877
(CHUCKLING)
321
00:21:34,877 --> 00:21:37,713
SKINNER: Now,
the matter before us seems to be a simple one.
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00:21:37,713 --> 00:21:40,758
Your Honor, I'm sorry,
but I don't think it is simple. May I hear it?
323
00:21:40,758 --> 00:21:43,052
No. You see,
the true intention of this motion is to try to place me
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00:21:43,052 --> 00:21:46,639
under a cloud of impropriety in your courtroom,
right from the beginning.
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00:21:46,639 --> 00:21:50,100
Really? Yes.
What they're saying with this motion
326
00:21:50,100 --> 00:21:51,769
is that they know the law
and I don't.
327
00:21:51,769 --> 00:21:54,396
What they're saying is that
they're real lawyers and I'm not.
328
00:21:54,396 --> 00:21:56,607
They're just trying
to humiliate me.
329
00:21:56,607 --> 00:22:00,277
Mr. Schlichtmann,
you are a personal injury lawyer, are you not?
330
00:22:00,277 --> 00:22:03,447
I think you'll survive that.
331
00:22:03,447 --> 00:22:06,116
You see, it's starting already.
No, you've started already.
332
00:22:06,116 --> 00:22:09,203
No, I'm on the defensive already,
and they're the defendants.
333
00:22:09,203 --> 00:22:12,790
Mr. Schlichtmann,
I... Do you think I might at least hear this motion
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00:22:12,790 --> 00:22:16,210
before you explain to me what it's really about?
335
00:22:17,837 --> 00:22:19,171
Of course.
Thank you.
336
00:22:19,171 --> 00:22:21,507
(SIGHS)
SKINNER: Now,
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00:22:23,676 --> 00:22:25,511
Mr., uh, Cheese-Man, is it?
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Cheeseman.
Cheeseman.
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Your motion to dismiss is based on?
Uh, rule 11, Your Honor.
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Uh, specifically on the fact
that, uh, Mr. Schlichtmann...
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(SQUEAKING) ...had absolutely no evidential grounds
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on which to bring this suit,
only his knowledge that my client, uh,
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the W. R. Grace corporation
has a lot of money.
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00:22:46,615 --> 00:22:49,535
Not true. CHEESEMAN: Uh,
he performed no real investigation,
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he did no research
of any consequence,
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00:22:51,662 --> 00:22:55,541
uh, except perhaps to review
profit statements,
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00:22:55,541 --> 00:23:00,504
and, uh, he's prepared his complaint
so inexpertly as to render it moot.
348
00:23:00,504 --> 00:23:04,675
All untrue. Do you know what rule 11 is,
Mr. Schlichtmann?
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00:23:04,675 --> 00:23:08,012
Well, to be honest with you,
Your Honor, I, uh, I had to look it up.
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00:23:08,012 --> 00:23:12,057
SKINNER: I'll be honest too.
So did I. (CHUCKLES)
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00:23:12,057 --> 00:23:14,602
Do you know why,
Mr. Cheeseman?
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00:23:14,602 --> 00:23:16,854
Because it is so old
and ambiguous,
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00:23:16,854 --> 00:23:21,191
few lawyers waste
their time with it, or mine.
354
00:23:21,191 --> 00:23:23,193
It's a non-issue,
Mr. Cheeseman.
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00:23:23,193 --> 00:23:25,195
Your motion is denied.
Thank you.
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00:23:25,195 --> 00:23:26,739
ALL: Thank you.
Thank you.
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00:23:26,739 --> 00:23:30,451
SKINNER: Anything else?
CHEESEMAN: No, Your Honor.
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SKINNER:
Set a trial date.
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00:23:32,328 --> 00:23:34,038
Excuse me, Mr. Facher.
360
00:23:34,038 --> 00:23:37,708
I'd like to thank you.
That was very statesmanlike of you
361
00:23:37,708 --> 00:23:39,877
not to join in that
ridiculous attack.
362
00:23:39,877 --> 00:23:41,211
Oh.
363
00:23:42,087 --> 00:23:43,505
You're welcome.
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00:23:47,051 --> 00:23:50,679
MAN: Well,
what we have to do is show how the toxic solvent
365
00:23:50,679 --> 00:23:52,348
from these two factories
dumped on the land there
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migrated underground and were drawn
into city wells here and well h over there.
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00:23:57,811 --> 00:24:00,689
And was then pumped into the homes of east Woburn.
Right.
368
00:24:00,689 --> 00:24:03,317
And to do that is quite simple, really.
I'll need to inspect the land,
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00:24:03,317 --> 00:24:06,987
map out the location of debris,
drill some monitoring wells, conduct seismic tests
370
00:24:06,987 --> 00:24:08,906
and so on.
371
00:24:08,906 --> 00:24:11,075
Right.
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00:24:11,075 --> 00:24:15,287
And you're talking about you and a
couple of assistants or something.
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00:24:15,287 --> 00:24:18,415
No. No, I mean a team
of geologists and engineers.
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00:24:18,415 --> 00:24:22,252
A team.
Mmm. A big team.
375
00:24:25,714 --> 00:24:27,925
You see, it's actually
quite exciting
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00:24:27,925 --> 00:24:31,345
because the nature of the contour
here means that there's an effect
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00:24:31,345 --> 00:24:32,972
which is named after me,
as a matter of fact,
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00:24:32,972 --> 00:24:35,641
uh, where the, the flow of the aquifer
goes against the gravitational pull.
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00:24:35,641 --> 00:24:38,602
JAN: Working in the Grace
paint shop, Mr. Barbas,
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00:24:38,602 --> 00:24:40,938
I'd imagine you'd use paint thinners and solvents.
Uh-huh.
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00:24:40,938 --> 00:24:42,690
To clean your brushes and things.
Uh-huh.
382
00:24:42,690 --> 00:24:48,195
I wonder what you would have done with that stuff,
say back in the 1970s, early '80s.
383
00:24:48,195 --> 00:24:50,280
Used solvent?
Yeah.
384
00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:51,907
Put it in drums.
Fifty-five-gallon drums.
385
00:24:51,907 --> 00:24:55,452
Uh-huh. And, uh,
what would you do with those drums
386
00:24:55,452 --> 00:24:56,996
when they were filled up?
387
00:24:56,996 --> 00:24:58,706
Don't know.
They were just gone.
388
00:24:58,706 --> 00:25:02,710
Never noticed.
You never dumped them out back?
389
00:25:02,710 --> 00:25:04,586
No.
Never did anything like that.
390
00:25:04,586 --> 00:25:07,798
No.
Never, never noticed anyone who did.
391
00:25:07,798 --> 00:25:12,302
No. Hmm.
Just disappeared.
392
00:25:12,302 --> 00:25:15,472
What were your duties at Grace back then,
Mr. Shalline?
393
00:25:15,472 --> 00:25:18,308
Receive disposal and
discharge to the drains.
394
00:25:18,308 --> 00:25:20,102
Be sure we weren't polluting the
air and things of that nature.
395
00:25:20,102 --> 00:25:22,855
Well, then you must know then that
over the years certain chemicals
396
00:25:22,855 --> 00:25:27,109
were deposited on the ground in back of the plant.
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00:25:27,109 --> 00:25:28,235
SHALLINE:
I don't know that.
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00:25:28,235 --> 00:25:30,612
JAN: Six barrels of toxic waste,
Mr. Shalline,
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00:25:30,612 --> 00:25:34,158
were found out in back
of the plant in a pit
400
00:25:34,158 --> 00:25:35,242
and exhumed
by city inspectors.
401
00:25:35,242 --> 00:25:37,244
You never heard anything about this?
Nope.
402
00:25:37,244 --> 00:25:41,081
JAN: Back then in 1965 or thereafter,
did you clean metal parts with any type
403
00:25:41,081 --> 00:25:42,249
of solvent?
404
00:25:42,249 --> 00:25:45,627
Yes.
What kind?
405
00:25:45,627 --> 00:25:48,672
That I couldn't tell you.
Did you ever notice,
406
00:25:48,672 --> 00:25:51,842
uh, the, uh, name
trichloroethylene or TCE?
407
00:25:51,842 --> 00:25:55,637
Nah. I don't know.
But you'd put it in barrels when you were done with it.
408
00:25:55,637 --> 00:25:56,638
That seems to be
the process, right?
409
00:25:56,638 --> 00:25:59,933
Yes.
Did you ever see what happened
410
00:25:59,933 --> 00:26:03,520
to these barrels of solvent when
you were through with them?
411
00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:04,855
Yes.
412
00:26:14,114 --> 00:26:16,533
What was that?
413
00:26:19,244 --> 00:26:20,662
They get dumped.
414
00:26:22,206 --> 00:26:23,207
Hmm. Where?
415
00:26:23,207 --> 00:26:26,376
Out back, in the ground.
You saw this?
416
00:26:26,376 --> 00:26:28,879
Yes.
JAN: When?
417
00:26:28,879 --> 00:26:31,840
Um, my coffee break.
I, uh, loved to go out
418
00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:34,760
and hit nine iron shots
with golf balls.
419
00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:37,513
(STAMMERS) Do you wanna
take a little break?
420
00:26:37,513 --> 00:26:40,891
JAN: Do you...
Do you need a break? No.
421
00:26:40,891 --> 00:26:43,685
Did you see who was out there,
um, dumping the stuff
422
00:26:43,685 --> 00:26:46,271
when you were hitting
your golf balls?
423
00:26:47,356 --> 00:26:48,982
What do you mean?
424
00:26:48,982 --> 00:26:49,733
The names of the people.
425
00:26:55,114 --> 00:26:57,491
He wants to tell us.
426
00:26:57,491 --> 00:26:59,409
He's not gonna tell us.
He has to work there.
427
00:26:59,409 --> 00:27:03,247
JAN: He has to work there,
but he lives across the street from Anne Anderson.
428
00:27:03,247 --> 00:27:04,832
He has to see
her every day.
429
00:27:08,085 --> 00:27:08,752
(CHATTERING)
430
00:27:20,013 --> 00:27:20,889
(SIGHS)
431
00:27:33,902 --> 00:27:35,237
Mr. Love, do you
have any children?
432
00:27:35,237 --> 00:27:37,614
Yes, I do.
433
00:27:38,448 --> 00:27:39,741
Eight of 'em.
Eight? (LAUGHING)
434
00:27:39,741 --> 00:27:42,911
My goodness!
That's quite a family.
435
00:27:44,830 --> 00:27:47,666
What do you think of the water in Woburn?
436
00:27:48,500 --> 00:27:51,628
Now?
It's all right.
437
00:27:51,628 --> 00:27:54,464
What about then?
Ten, 15 years ago?
438
00:27:54,464 --> 00:27:56,466
Had an odor then.
Hmm.
439
00:27:56,466 --> 00:27:59,386
Chlorine or somethin'.
440
00:27:59,386 --> 00:28:01,471
Did you drink it?
Yeah, I drank it.
441
00:28:01,847 --> 00:28:03,557
Your kids?
442
00:28:04,850 --> 00:28:05,809
Yes.
443
00:28:08,395 --> 00:28:11,523
Were you concerned when you found
out the wells were contaminated?
444
00:28:11,523 --> 00:28:15,402
I'm going to object to that. You don't,
you don't have to answer that.
445
00:28:18,322 --> 00:28:19,865
Yeah, I was
concerned.
446
00:28:19,865 --> 00:28:23,035
JAN: For your family's health?
Yes.
447
00:28:23,035 --> 00:28:26,163
Has any member of your family
had any illness out of the ordinary?
448
00:28:26,163 --> 00:28:30,459
You don't have to answer any
of these type of questions.
449
00:28:31,501 --> 00:28:34,171
Yeah, they have.
What kind?
450
00:28:34,171 --> 00:28:36,006
LOVE: One of my sons has a seizure disorder.
451
00:28:36,006 --> 00:28:41,011
And, uh, my oldest daughter's had two
miscarriages and my youngest boy was born with...
452
00:28:41,011 --> 00:28:45,182
Are we gonna sit here all day and go
through his entire family's medical history?
453
00:28:45,182 --> 00:28:47,017
Well, if you don't
wanna hear it, then leave.
454
00:28:47,017 --> 00:28:50,687
I don't know what you're doing here anyway.
We're deposing Grace employees, not Beatrice.
455
00:28:50,687 --> 00:28:53,690
LAWYER: If you're deposing anybody, anybody,
I have a right to be here.
456
00:28:53,690 --> 00:28:54,983
JAN: Well, then
sit down and shut up!
457
00:29:07,287 --> 00:29:08,956
Mr. Love,
458
00:29:08,956 --> 00:29:13,627
are you aware that some of your neighbors
have had leukemia in their families?
459
00:29:14,336 --> 00:29:16,588
Yes, I am.
460
00:29:17,714 --> 00:29:19,800
They think it's the water.
461
00:29:21,093 --> 00:29:23,929
Al, that water
hasn't made anybody sick.
462
00:29:27,140 --> 00:29:28,141
How do you know?
463
00:29:29,977 --> 00:29:31,436
I just do.
464
00:29:33,397 --> 00:29:35,899
There's a lot of people in my
neighborhood that are dead,
465
00:29:35,899 --> 00:29:38,944
or dyin', Mr. Chessman,
from somethin'.
466
00:29:40,654 --> 00:29:42,030
Look, if I, uh...
467
00:29:42,030 --> 00:29:45,742
If I took 100 pennies and threw 'em up in the air,
468
00:29:45,742 --> 00:29:50,080
about half of 'em would land heads
and the other half tails, right?
469
00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:53,750
Now if I looked around closely,
I'd probably find some heads grouped together
470
00:29:53,750 --> 00:29:57,796
in a cluster. What does that mean?
Does that mean anything?
471
00:29:57,796 --> 00:30:00,966
See, no one knows
what causes leukemia, Al.
472
00:30:00,966 --> 00:30:03,468
No one knows what caused that cluster.
473
00:30:05,429 --> 00:30:08,098
I know what
happened.
474
00:30:08,098 --> 00:30:09,766
And I know who did it.
475
00:30:12,936 --> 00:30:14,813
Um,
476
00:30:14,813 --> 00:30:17,482
Al, this is, uh,
this is very important, uh...
477
00:30:18,525 --> 00:30:21,445
I want you to tell me
who those people are.
478
00:30:22,070 --> 00:30:24,781
I'm not a rat.
479
00:30:24,781 --> 00:30:26,992
You know, it's, uh,
it's important because, uh,
480
00:30:26,992 --> 00:30:29,119
if there is something wrong out there,
we need,
481
00:30:29,119 --> 00:30:31,163
we need to disclose it
to the proper authorities.
482
00:30:31,163 --> 00:30:34,583
We need to get 'em out there and have it cleaned up.
483
00:30:38,336 --> 00:30:41,923
You, uh, you think about that and,
and call me if y...
484
00:30:41,923 --> 00:30:43,050
Yeah. Yeah.
485
00:31:00,317 --> 00:31:01,943
Thank you.
You're welcome.
486
00:31:09,785 --> 00:31:11,745
Do you eat peanut butter?
487
00:31:13,205 --> 00:31:15,082
No.
488
00:31:15,082 --> 00:31:17,167
You've never eaten
peanut butter?
489
00:31:17,167 --> 00:31:18,376
I guess everyone alive
has probably tried it,
490
00:31:18,376 --> 00:31:22,130
but I'm not exactly what you'd call a peanut butter fan.
491
00:31:23,340 --> 00:31:26,009
What about your son?
Did he ever eat peanut butter?
492
00:31:30,055 --> 00:31:33,558
FACHER: Do you eat bacon?
Yes.
493
00:31:33,558 --> 00:31:35,102
Yes. How often?
How many slices?
494
00:31:36,812 --> 00:31:40,607
Um...
(CHUCKLES)
495
00:31:40,607 --> 00:31:43,443
Do you have Teflon
pans in your kitchen?
496
00:31:43,443 --> 00:31:45,529
Do you chew sugarless gum?
497
00:31:45,529 --> 00:31:46,822
Do you pump your own gas?
498
00:31:46,822 --> 00:31:48,490
Do you use hair spray?
499
00:31:48,490 --> 00:31:50,992
Do you use artificial sweeteners?
Smoke cigarettes?
500
00:31:50,992 --> 00:31:54,746
Drink diet soda?
Do you use tampons?
501
00:31:54,746 --> 00:31:57,082
Do you ever have your
clothes dry-cleaned?
502
00:31:57,082 --> 00:32:00,210
Do you have silver
fillings in your teeth?
503
00:32:00,210 --> 00:32:01,253
(CHOMPS)
504
00:32:01,253 --> 00:32:03,880
So you were aware
when you moved to Woburn
505
00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:06,383
that its water
didn't taste so good.
506
00:32:06,383 --> 00:32:11,555
Yeah, but,
a lot of places the water doesn't taste so good.
507
00:32:11,555 --> 00:32:13,932
FACHER: I agree with that.
508
00:32:13,932 --> 00:32:15,892
Did you ever consider
using bottled water?
509
00:32:15,892 --> 00:32:17,727
We use bottled water,
uh, off and on.
510
00:32:17,727 --> 00:32:20,188
Split half and half.
511
00:32:20,188 --> 00:32:24,067
Like, uh, we, uh,
cooked with regular water, tap water.
512
00:32:24,067 --> 00:32:27,529
And we did other things like, uh,
make orange juice.
513
00:32:27,529 --> 00:32:32,450
But to, uh, drink just straight water,
we drank bottled water.
514
00:32:32,450 --> 00:32:34,911
Has any doctor ever told you
that you've had any dysfunction
515
00:32:34,911 --> 00:32:38,665
of your immune system?
No,
516
00:32:38,665 --> 00:32:43,003
but, uh, when my son died,
they told us that that was why he died.
517
00:32:43,003 --> 00:32:45,797
His, uh, immune
system was
518
00:32:46,756 --> 00:32:48,550
tore down to nothin'.
519
00:32:51,303 --> 00:32:53,972
Uh,
520
00:32:53,972 --> 00:32:55,932
why did you have
an autopsy?
521
00:32:55,932 --> 00:32:58,351
Because he,
he was doin' good.
522
00:32:58,351 --> 00:33:00,687
He only, uh,
lived three months with leukemia,
523
00:33:00,687 --> 00:33:04,274
and, uh,
he looked fine.
524
00:33:04,274 --> 00:33:07,194
Did you talk to the
doctor about this?
525
00:33:07,194 --> 00:33:10,614
Yeah, I had more like a, uh,
violent talk with him.
526
00:33:13,158 --> 00:33:14,659
Violent. you mean,
you were angry.
527
00:33:14,659 --> 00:33:18,288
Yellin' at him.
528
00:33:18,288 --> 00:33:21,917
Your son seemed to be doing all right.
He, he was in remission.
529
00:33:21,917 --> 00:33:23,793
You were optimistic
about his future
530
00:33:23,793 --> 00:33:26,755
and suddenly he
became ill and died.
531
00:33:26,755 --> 00:33:28,298
And they said
that was expected.
532
00:33:28,298 --> 00:33:32,385
That, uh,
anybody with a disease like leukemia
533
00:33:32,385 --> 00:33:33,136
could die
any minute.
534
00:33:36,139 --> 00:33:37,140
But you were
angry and upset.
535
00:33:38,683 --> 00:33:40,518
My son just died.
536
00:33:40,518 --> 00:33:45,148
I understand. I'm just trying to,
to recreate the event.
537
00:33:45,148 --> 00:33:47,609
You can tell when your child isn't feeling well.
538
00:33:47,609 --> 00:33:50,528
You, uh,
you try to explain it to them on the phone,
539
00:33:50,528 --> 00:33:53,323
and they say, uh,
"Has he got a temperature?"
540
00:33:53,323 --> 00:33:56,618
You say no.
"He's all right then," they say.
541
00:33:56,618 --> 00:34:00,205
"Don't worry.
Bring him into the clinic Monday morning."
542
00:34:02,582 --> 00:34:04,668
He died Monday morning.
543
00:34:06,127 --> 00:34:08,171
He was in the clinic
when he died.
544
00:34:10,173 --> 00:34:10,667
No.
545
00:34:12,008 --> 00:34:15,720
He was in the
car. On the way.
546
00:34:26,356 --> 00:34:29,442
He died in the car on the way to the clinic?
547
00:34:29,442 --> 00:34:32,529
He died on I-93,
548
00:34:32,529 --> 00:34:34,739
out by the
Somerville exit.
549
00:34:41,288 --> 00:34:44,708
My wife was yellin' that he'd stopped breathing.
550
00:34:44,708 --> 00:34:49,546
I pulled over and, and
551
00:34:49,546 --> 00:34:51,673
tried to give him CPR.
552
00:34:53,675 --> 00:34:57,804
I wa... I was holdin'
him in my lap.
553
00:35:01,725 --> 00:35:04,394
Lauren was
screamin'.
554
00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:12,068
Cars and trucks
rushin' by.
555
00:35:15,530 --> 00:35:16,239
And, uh...
556
00:35:19,618 --> 00:35:20,285
(VOICE WAVERING)
Jarrod...
557
00:35:23,872 --> 00:35:25,332
(WHISPERING)
I'm sorry.
558
00:35:27,751 --> 00:35:29,210
It's all right.
559
00:35:32,088 --> 00:35:35,008
JAN: (WHISPERING)
It's okay.
560
00:35:44,809 --> 00:35:47,854
LAUREN: How did it go?
AUFIERO: We'll talk about it in the car.
561
00:35:47,854 --> 00:35:49,981
He did very well.
562
00:35:54,944 --> 00:35:56,821
These people
can never testify.
563
00:35:57,322 --> 00:35:57,815
Nope.
564
00:36:32,857 --> 00:36:34,776
(GRUNTS)
565
00:36:34,776 --> 00:36:37,862
I guess we'll have the first seven
monitor wells in this kind of area.
566
00:36:37,862 --> 00:36:40,156
Right.
There's permeable rock here.
567
00:36:40,156 --> 00:36:41,700
All right.
The seven?
568
00:36:41,700 --> 00:36:44,160
Yes, I did say initially
there would only be seven.
569
00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:46,496
I think now it's more likely
we're gonna have probably 12.
570
00:36:46,496 --> 00:36:48,998
Hey! Hey!
Because of the tree cover.
571
00:36:53,086 --> 00:36:55,296
Private property!
Yes, this is your property.
572
00:36:55,296 --> 00:36:57,882
Yeah, it's my property,
and you're trespassing.
573
00:36:57,882 --> 00:37:00,051
Here you go.
What the fuck is this?
574
00:37:00,051 --> 00:37:01,845
That's a court
order, Mr. Riley.
575
00:37:01,845 --> 00:37:03,513
Which means that I have a right to be here on your land
576
00:37:03,513 --> 00:37:08,309
and to inspect every inch of your tannery as well.
577
00:37:08,309 --> 00:37:10,812
No, no. You keep that.
That's your copy.
578
00:37:13,732 --> 00:37:15,900
Let's go.
(MAN SHOUTING ORDERS)
579
00:37:23,408 --> 00:37:27,078
I started working when I was seven years old,
580
00:37:28,496 --> 00:37:31,207
sweeping the beam
house floors for my father,
581
00:37:31,207 --> 00:37:34,419
which he swept
for his father
582
00:37:34,419 --> 00:37:37,630
when he was
seven years old,
583
00:37:37,630 --> 00:37:39,257
which my boys Timmy
and Johnny swept...
584
00:37:39,257 --> 00:37:42,677
I know. They swept it too.
Pease answer the question I asked, not one I didn't.
585
00:37:42,677 --> 00:37:45,555
Silicone, Mr. Riley,
and trichloroethylene.
586
00:37:45,555 --> 00:37:48,057
These two chemicals mixed together
are used to waterproof leather,
587
00:37:48,057 --> 00:37:49,350
are they not?
588
00:37:52,979 --> 00:37:55,482
I asked you a question,
Mr. Riley, again.
589
00:37:57,776 --> 00:37:59,652
JAN: Mr. Facher,
590
00:37:59,652 --> 00:38:02,614
please inform your client that he's
obligated to answer my question.
591
00:38:15,001 --> 00:38:19,756
Let the record show that the witness has
emptied a glass of water on my conference table.
592
00:38:19,756 --> 00:38:22,091
What exactly do you intend to say to me,
Mr. Riley,
593
00:38:22,091 --> 00:38:24,594
by pouring a glass
of water on my table?
594
00:38:24,594 --> 00:38:30,099
This is how silicone is put
on leather to waterproof it.
595
00:38:30,099 --> 00:38:32,101
I'm answering
your question.
596
00:38:32,101 --> 00:38:34,479
It's poured on like...
597
00:38:34,479 --> 00:38:36,940
You poured water
on my table.
598
00:38:36,940 --> 00:38:39,234
Yeah. Correct.
599
00:38:39,234 --> 00:38:41,236
So then some of it
must spill off the leather
600
00:38:41,236 --> 00:38:44,697
like the water
spilling off my table.
601
00:38:45,740 --> 00:38:47,700
And onto my rug.
602
00:38:47,700 --> 00:38:50,036
That's the part
I'm interested in.
603
00:38:51,621 --> 00:38:55,625
The spilled silicone and
trichloroethylene, sir.
604
00:38:55,625 --> 00:38:57,752
How you disposed of that.
605
00:38:57,752 --> 00:39:00,839
RILEY: I never once used TCE.
JAN: TCE?
606
00:39:00,839 --> 00:39:03,675
Did I say TCE?
607
00:39:03,675 --> 00:39:06,010
I didn't say TCE.
608
00:39:06,010 --> 00:39:07,720
I said trichloroethylene.
609
00:39:11,015 --> 00:39:14,143
You said TCE,
610
00:39:14,143 --> 00:39:16,312
as it is commonly known
611
00:39:17,814 --> 00:39:19,190
to those who know it.
612
00:39:19,190 --> 00:39:22,652
Mr. Riley,
you wouldn't mind if I checked your statements today
613
00:39:22,652 --> 00:39:23,945
against your office
records, would you?
614
00:39:23,945 --> 00:39:27,574
Your, um, invoices,
purchase orders and formulas, huh?
615
00:39:27,574 --> 00:39:30,159
No. Be my guest.
616
00:39:30,159 --> 00:39:34,163
They go back, um,
three years.
617
00:39:34,163 --> 00:39:36,416
Everything before
that, we dumped.
618
00:39:38,543 --> 00:39:40,628
(CALCULATOR KEYS CLACKING)
(TAPE ADVANCING)
619
00:39:44,507 --> 00:39:46,801
MAN: Jan, you're
not listening.
620
00:39:46,801 --> 00:39:48,344
I am listening.
It's just you've been out there three times and nothin'.
621
00:39:48,344 --> 00:39:51,347
I know why you
find this unacceptable.
622
00:39:51,347 --> 00:39:52,390
It's just you don't know
what it's like out there.
623
00:39:52,390 --> 00:39:55,310
Riley is Woburn.
He's been there forever.
624
00:39:55,310 --> 00:39:58,021
His employees are like loyal subjects.
None of them will talk.
625
00:39:58,021 --> 00:40:02,317
Ex-employees. That's who you should be talking to.
Disgruntled employees.
626
00:40:02,317 --> 00:40:04,402
Disloyal subjects.
They talk.
627
00:40:04,402 --> 00:40:05,528
So you want me to go back out there.
All ready.
628
00:40:05,528 --> 00:40:08,698
This is the case against
Beatrice... This liar.
629
00:40:08,698 --> 00:40:10,617
You go back out there,
and you catch him in a lie.
630
00:40:10,617 --> 00:40:13,578
You got the rest of the medical records?
Almost.
631
00:40:13,578 --> 00:40:14,871
I can't get complete records on...
I don't care. Just get it.
632
00:40:14,871 --> 00:40:17,624
Jan. Jan! Just get it.
I don't wanna hear about it.
633
00:40:17,624 --> 00:40:21,252
(CALCULATOR KEYS CLACKING)
(TAPE ADVANCING)
634
00:40:35,016 --> 00:40:38,728
Well, this figure here...
This $100 an hour for Dr. Cohen.
635
00:40:38,728 --> 00:40:42,190
That seems more than fair
considering his preeminence.
636
00:40:42,190 --> 00:40:44,400
That's for his nights
in the hotel, Jan.
637
00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:45,652
That's his discount
sleeping rate.
638
00:40:46,903 --> 00:40:48,237
Oh.
639
00:40:48,237 --> 00:40:50,031
GORDON: Your doctors have
cost us more than 900,000 so far.
640
00:40:50,031 --> 00:40:54,535
Well, they're worth it.
Your geologists have cost more than 500,000.
641
00:40:54,535 --> 00:40:56,245
Well, they're worth it.
That's not the point.
642
00:40:56,245 --> 00:40:59,874
The point is,
everybody in the firm's working only on this case.
643
00:40:59,874 --> 00:41:03,086
That means we have no money coming in,
just going out. So what?
644
00:41:03,086 --> 00:41:07,006
What, you wanna cut our losses now?
Is that what you wanna do, Gordon?
645
00:41:07,006 --> 00:41:10,093
You wanna just get out now and, and,
and throw away 900 and... What is it?
646
00:41:10,093 --> 00:41:12,679
$1.4 million.
647
00:41:13,888 --> 00:41:14,722
(WHISPERING)
Good night.
648
00:41:20,603 --> 00:41:24,148
Well, I don't know what to tell you because
there's certain things I gotta prove,
649
00:41:24,148 --> 00:41:25,608
and I can't do that
not spending money.
650
00:41:27,443 --> 00:41:30,530
We have to go
see Uncle Pete.
651
00:41:30,530 --> 00:41:31,614
(SIGHS)
652
00:41:33,658 --> 00:41:35,284
(CAR HORN HONKING)
653
00:41:35,284 --> 00:41:37,412
So, Gordon,
where are we on the loan I gave you last... Spent it.
654
00:41:37,412 --> 00:41:40,164
You spent it?
How much of it?
655
00:41:40,164 --> 00:41:43,084
All of it.
All of it.
656
00:41:43,084 --> 00:41:46,087
Hmm. Well, what about the Carney settlement?
How much of that...
657
00:41:46,087 --> 00:41:48,339
Spent it.
658
00:41:49,674 --> 00:41:50,717
On?
659
00:41:50,717 --> 00:41:54,012
Woburn. We spend
everything on Woburn now.
660
00:41:54,012 --> 00:41:56,222
On Woburn. Huh.
661
00:41:58,850 --> 00:42:01,561
So what do you think you're
gonna need to tide you over here?
662
00:42:01,561 --> 00:42:04,188
Oh, two, three hundred?
Six hundred thousand.
663
00:42:04,981 --> 00:42:06,607
Six hundred thousand?
Yeah.
664
00:42:10,153 --> 00:42:14,991
JAN: Pete,
when was the last time you lost money betting on me?
665
00:42:14,991 --> 00:42:19,537
Never.
I'm probably the best investment your bank ever made.
666
00:42:23,291 --> 00:42:23,833
(CHUCKLES)
Yeah.
667
00:42:26,544 --> 00:42:28,755
(HAMMERING)
(MACHINES ROARING)
668
00:42:52,487 --> 00:42:55,948
(GLASS CLINKING)
(ALL CHATTERING INDISTINCTLY)
669
00:42:55,948 --> 00:42:58,618
LOVE: I, I don't wanna
know what it's made of.
670
00:42:58,618 --> 00:43:00,828
(LAUGHING) Can you pass...
Can you pass the mashed potatoes?
671
00:43:00,828 --> 00:43:04,415
Can you pass me the mashed potatoes, please?
672
00:43:04,415 --> 00:43:05,708
(CHATTERING CONTINUES)
673
00:43:10,046 --> 00:43:13,216
BOY: How do vampires
get around on Halloween?
674
00:43:13,216 --> 00:43:15,051
EVELYN: How?
BOY: Blood vessels.
675
00:43:15,051 --> 00:43:15,843
EVELYN: Oh.
676
00:43:31,818 --> 00:43:33,444
(WATER POURING)
677
00:43:56,717 --> 00:43:57,718
Let's go.
678
00:43:58,886 --> 00:43:59,554
Bye, Dad.
Bye.
679
00:43:59,554 --> 00:44:02,348
See you later.
Bye-bye.
680
00:44:04,100 --> 00:44:04,725
Love ya.
681
00:44:33,129 --> 00:44:35,882
I thought about comin'
to see ya for a long time.
682
00:44:38,301 --> 00:44:41,762
I guess I was afraid
to 'cause
683
00:44:41,762 --> 00:44:43,848
I didn't think you'd want to talk to me 'cause
684
00:44:43,848 --> 00:44:44,974
where I work
and everything.
685
00:44:48,144 --> 00:44:53,900
I'm concerned about what's
been happenin' around here, and
686
00:44:53,900 --> 00:44:56,569
I'm angry at the company for the way it's handling itself.
687
00:45:07,872 --> 00:45:09,957
I'm very sorry
about your son.
688
00:45:29,852 --> 00:45:30,978
Thank you.
689
00:45:36,651 --> 00:45:38,861
(RADIO ANNOUNCER
TALKING INDISTINCTLY)
690
00:45:38,861 --> 00:45:41,364
JAN: He said he never dumped anything out back.
691
00:45:41,364 --> 00:45:45,076
He never did anything like that.
Never saw anybody who did.
692
00:45:45,076 --> 00:45:47,703
LOVE: Tommy Barbas
didn't tell you the truth.
693
00:45:47,703 --> 00:45:52,208
Neither did Paul Shalline.
Tommy, Paul and Joey were out back all the time
694
00:45:52,208 --> 00:45:54,252
with their buckets and barrels.
Joey who?
695
00:45:54,252 --> 00:45:56,545
Joey Meola, plant maintenance.
696
00:45:56,545 --> 00:45:58,756
And the rumor is, there's
50 more of those barrels
697
00:45:58,756 --> 00:46:02,301
buried under this new building here
that the city inspectors didn't find.
698
00:46:02,301 --> 00:46:04,136
Fifty?
Or more.
699
00:46:04,136 --> 00:46:04,929
Here.
700
00:46:08,224 --> 00:46:12,937
Okay.
Is there anyone else at the plant that might talk to me?
701
00:46:14,313 --> 00:46:15,564
I don't think so.
702
00:46:15,564 --> 00:46:18,818
Bobby Pasqueriella.
703
00:46:18,818 --> 00:46:22,905
(LAUGHS)
Bobby? He might.
704
00:46:22,905 --> 00:46:26,826
He doesn't work there anymore, though.
Could you call him?
705
00:46:26,826 --> 00:46:29,578
PASQUERIELLA: Yeah,
I threw stuff back there.
706
00:46:29,578 --> 00:46:31,122
Yeah. All the time.
JAN: Mmm-hmm.
707
00:46:31,122 --> 00:46:34,375
Threw it back there myself.
All the time, back there.
708
00:46:35,251 --> 00:46:37,420
Yeah.
Eddie Orazine.
709
00:46:37,420 --> 00:46:41,048
He'd say, "Go ahead and dump that
stuff out in the gully." Mmm-hmm.
710
00:46:41,048 --> 00:46:42,216
Out there in the gully there,
you know? Back there in the gully.
711
00:46:42,216 --> 00:46:47,263
Dump the...
Back there in the gully right there.
712
00:46:47,263 --> 00:46:49,098
Washed down the belts with it and
gear boxes and swished it around.
713
00:46:49,098 --> 00:46:54,103
And throw it out there in the gully.
That's what he said. "Dump it out there like Joey."
714
00:46:54,103 --> 00:46:56,897
JAN: How about Tom Barbas?
Did he? Tommy?
715
00:46:57,898 --> 00:46:59,859
No, not Tommy. No.
716
00:46:59,859 --> 00:47:03,404
No? Never did anything like that?
No, no.
717
00:47:03,404 --> 00:47:05,031
He dumped his in a ditch.
718
00:47:06,365 --> 00:47:07,116
Okay.
719
00:47:11,829 --> 00:47:13,956
Good morning, Mr. Barbas.
Nice to see you again.
720
00:47:13,956 --> 00:47:18,377
I understand that you've had a chance to
think about things since your first deposition.
721
00:47:18,377 --> 00:47:22,131
He says that you said he should just pour it into the pit.
722
00:47:22,131 --> 00:47:25,468
Is that how you remember it,
now that your memory's been refreshed?
723
00:47:25,468 --> 00:47:30,097
Vinnie said go out there and dig a trench, oh, 20,
30 feet long.
724
00:47:30,097 --> 00:47:32,767
And load the barrels onto the truck,
drive it out there,
725
00:47:32,767 --> 00:47:35,436
dump it into the
swimming pool.
726
00:47:35,436 --> 00:47:39,440
(STAMMERS) That's what we called it...
A swim... Swimming pool.
727
00:47:42,902 --> 00:47:43,986
Right.
728
00:47:55,539 --> 00:47:57,083
Mr. Cheeseman,
well done.
729
00:47:59,835 --> 00:48:02,671
JAN: The odds of a plaintiff's
lawyer winning in civil court
730
00:48:02,671 --> 00:48:05,633
are two to one against.
731
00:48:05,633 --> 00:48:09,095
Think about that for a second.
Your odds of surviving a game of Russian roulette
732
00:48:09,095 --> 00:48:11,847
are better than
winning a case at trial.
733
00:48:11,847 --> 00:48:13,808
Twelve times better.
734
00:48:13,808 --> 00:48:15,851
So why does
anyone do it?
735
00:48:15,851 --> 00:48:17,978
They don't.
They settle.
736
00:48:17,978 --> 00:48:22,358
Out of the 780,000 cases
filed each year,
737
00:48:22,358 --> 00:48:24,860
only 12,000, or 1.5 %,
738
00:48:24,860 --> 00:48:26,195
ever reach a verdict.
739
00:48:26,195 --> 00:48:29,031
The whole idea of
lawsuits is to settle,
740
00:48:29,031 --> 00:48:32,410
to compel the
other side to settle.
741
00:48:32,410 --> 00:48:35,371
And you do that by spending
more money than you should,
742
00:48:35,371 --> 00:48:38,082
which forces them to spend
more money than they should,
743
00:48:38,082 --> 00:48:41,669
and whoever comes
to their senses first,
744
00:48:43,129 --> 00:48:45,172
loses.
745
00:48:45,172 --> 00:48:47,550
Trials are a corruption
of the entire process,
746
00:48:47,550 --> 00:48:52,513
and only fools with something to
prove end up ensnared in them.
747
00:48:52,513 --> 00:48:54,890
Now when I say "prove"...
(CHATTERING INAUDIBLY)
748
00:48:54,890 --> 00:48:58,394
...I don't mean about the case.
Look who's here.
749
00:48:58,394 --> 00:48:59,603
I mean about themselves.
750
00:48:59,603 --> 00:49:03,190
WORKER: Hey, old man,
out of the way! (HORN HONKING)
751
00:49:08,696 --> 00:49:11,782
FACHER: How's business,
by the way? JAN: Business is good.
752
00:49:11,782 --> 00:49:13,325
Is it? That's good.
I was afraid,
753
00:49:13,325 --> 00:49:14,743
what, with all these scientists
and doctors and what not,
754
00:49:14,743 --> 00:49:17,746
a small boutique firm like yours
might be in financial trouble.
755
00:49:17,746 --> 00:49:22,418
I appreciate your concern, Jerry.
We've got more than enough to go the distance.
756
00:49:22,418 --> 00:49:25,129
Are you sure? I mean,
I'd hate it if one day you realize you
757
00:49:25,129 --> 00:49:27,756
miscalculated the arithmetic and there you were
758
00:49:27,756 --> 00:49:30,426
digging quarters out of the seats
of your shiny black sports car...
759
00:49:30,426 --> 00:49:34,597
You really don't have to worry, Jerry.
Well, that's a relief.
760
00:49:34,597 --> 00:49:36,474
Yeah.
761
00:49:36,474 --> 00:49:40,019
You know what?
You don't want me in this case.
762
00:49:40,019 --> 00:49:42,897
You've got Grace,
and one deep pocket is enough.
763
00:49:42,897 --> 00:49:46,317
I'm only gonna hurt you,
so get rid of me.
764
00:49:46,317 --> 00:49:50,279
Tell me what you've got in so far,
I'll have a check cut, we can get on with our lives.
765
00:49:50,279 --> 00:49:51,697
What do you say?
766
00:49:53,282 --> 00:49:54,992
My expenses.
767
00:49:54,992 --> 00:49:57,578
You... You're offering
to cover my expenses.
768
00:49:57,578 --> 00:49:59,288
Your expenses
and your pride.
769
00:50:02,291 --> 00:50:04,418
You think you're gonna put those families on the stand.
770
00:50:04,418 --> 00:50:06,587
Your mothers and your fathers
are gonna tell their stories.
771
00:50:06,587 --> 00:50:11,800
And the jury's gonna pull out their
handkerchiefs and dab their eyes?
772
00:50:11,800 --> 00:50:14,136
Do you really think
I'd let that happen?
773
00:50:16,472 --> 00:50:19,058
I don't see how you can prevent it.
774
00:50:20,017 --> 00:50:22,269
(LAUGHING)
Of course you don't.
775
00:50:24,605 --> 00:50:26,857
(THUNDER RUMBLING)
776
00:50:27,733 --> 00:50:30,861
(WHISTLE BLOWING)
777
00:50:35,824 --> 00:50:38,118
(CELL PHONE RINGING)
778
00:50:38,118 --> 00:50:41,163
Yeah? GORDON: Jan,
guess what?
779
00:50:41,163 --> 00:50:43,415
Cheeseman called.
He wants to talk.
780
00:50:43,415 --> 00:50:46,377
He wants a number. He wants out.
I'll get everything together.
781
00:50:46,377 --> 00:50:49,088
I'll meet you back here at the office.
Okay.
782
00:50:49,088 --> 00:50:52,716
Jan, this is it.
We got him.
783
00:50:52,716 --> 00:50:54,260
That's great.
784
00:51:09,441 --> 00:51:10,901
(LAUREN CRYING)
785
00:51:18,284 --> 00:51:20,703
(CONTINUES CRYING)
786
00:51:20,703 --> 00:51:22,204
Get out of here!
Oh, my baby!
787
00:51:35,843 --> 00:51:38,971
(CONTINUES CRYING)
788
00:51:38,971 --> 00:51:40,723
(WAILING)
No!
789
00:51:40,723 --> 00:51:41,390
No!
790
00:51:43,559 --> 00:51:45,144
No!
791
00:52:05,581 --> 00:52:06,290
He said he'd be here.
792
00:52:08,459 --> 00:52:10,377
Are the Red Sox in town?
793
00:52:13,339 --> 00:52:15,257
(SIGHS) Sorry I'm late.
I got tied up.
794
00:52:16,592 --> 00:52:19,345
Yeah. Oh.
795
00:52:19,345 --> 00:52:23,015
I was just given a chair at Harvard, of,
of all things.
796
00:52:23,015 --> 00:52:24,933
Oh, you're kidding.
Which chair?
797
00:52:24,933 --> 00:52:27,353
Oh, well, it's, it's black
798
00:52:27,353 --> 00:52:30,731
with arms,
with my name on a brass plate on the back.
799
00:52:30,731 --> 00:52:31,440
From my students.
800
00:52:33,609 --> 00:52:34,818
Jerry.
801
00:52:34,818 --> 00:52:37,780
Ever thought about getting yourself a new briefcase?
802
00:52:37,780 --> 00:52:41,367
No, no. You don't change your socks
in the middle of the world series, Jan.
803
00:52:44,161 --> 00:52:46,955
Am I sitting
in the right place?
804
00:52:46,955 --> 00:52:50,751
Well, actually, we have a seat for you here,
but that's, that's fine.
805
00:52:51,460 --> 00:52:52,336
Oh.
806
00:52:53,295 --> 00:52:54,296
Okay.
807
00:52:57,341 --> 00:52:59,593
This is a nice pen.
808
00:52:59,593 --> 00:53:01,762
JAN: They're courtesy
of the hotel.
809
00:53:01,762 --> 00:53:05,641
Really? This is
a good quality pen.
810
00:53:05,641 --> 00:53:06,975
JAN: Oh, yeah.
811
00:53:10,312 --> 00:53:10,729
So...
812
00:53:10,729 --> 00:53:13,482
So, Bill.
813
00:53:15,484 --> 00:53:17,903
How much did Grace
make last year?
814
00:53:17,903 --> 00:53:19,738
I have no idea.
815
00:53:19,738 --> 00:53:24,368
CHEESEMAN: But I have a feeling that you do.
JAN: $198 million.
816
00:53:24,368 --> 00:53:26,370
And Beatrice, Jerry?
Hmm. What?
817
00:53:27,830 --> 00:53:29,164
$436 million.
818
00:53:29,164 --> 00:53:32,167
Together,
that's $634 million.
819
00:53:32,167 --> 00:53:34,420
That's one year.
That's net.
820
00:53:35,963 --> 00:53:38,173
So that's what they made.
821
00:53:38,173 --> 00:53:40,175
Now what should they
be made to pay,
822
00:53:40,175 --> 00:53:42,803
to compensate the families,
823
00:53:42,803 --> 00:53:45,347
to provide for their economic security in the future?
824
00:53:45,347 --> 00:53:48,684
CHEESEMAN: Don't
forget to mention you.
825
00:53:48,684 --> 00:53:49,518
Compensating you.
826
00:53:51,812 --> 00:53:55,232
And to make sure that this kind
of thing doesn't happen again.
827
00:53:55,858 --> 00:53:58,444
$25 million, cash.
828
00:54:05,909 --> 00:54:09,663
And another $25 million to
establish a research foundation
829
00:54:09,663 --> 00:54:12,958
to study the links between hazardous waste and illness.
830
00:54:18,589 --> 00:54:22,926
And $1.5 million per family annually for 30 years.
831
00:54:49,453 --> 00:54:52,039
$320 million
832
00:54:52,789 --> 00:54:55,167
FACHER: Uh...
833
00:54:55,751 --> 00:54:57,085
Can I ask a question?
834
00:54:57,085 --> 00:54:59,505
Well, I'm sure everyone has questions.
What's yours, Jerry?
835
00:55:02,674 --> 00:55:03,884
Can I have this?
836
00:55:07,763 --> 00:55:09,890
Thank you.
837
00:55:12,017 --> 00:55:13,602
(SIGHS)
838
00:55:13,602 --> 00:55:14,478
Excuse me.
839
00:55:38,293 --> 00:55:39,711
Jan?
840
00:55:39,711 --> 00:55:40,546
Yes, Gordon.
841
00:55:42,673 --> 00:55:44,758
What's the story?
842
00:55:44,758 --> 00:55:47,553
Well, I guess they just don't want to end this thing.
843
00:55:47,553 --> 00:55:49,429
They don't want...
844
00:55:49,429 --> 00:55:51,306
You said this would
never go to trial.
845
00:55:51,306 --> 00:55:53,976
You just made certain
that it will.
846
00:55:53,976 --> 00:55:55,936
Without consulting us,
I might add.
847
00:55:56,478 --> 00:55:58,480
They patronize us.
848
00:56:00,315 --> 00:56:02,234
They think we're
blackmailers.
849
00:56:06,029 --> 00:56:06,488
They think they can buy us.
850
00:56:08,907 --> 00:56:10,993
Yeah?
851
00:56:12,661 --> 00:56:15,581
We can't afford a long,
drawn-out trial.
852
00:56:15,581 --> 00:56:18,125
Well, you're gonna have to find a
way of getting some money then.
853
00:56:18,834 --> 00:56:20,335
GORDON: What do you suggest?
854
00:56:20,335 --> 00:56:22,963
Am I the financial advisor
around here?
855
00:56:23,672 --> 00:56:24,506
Thanks, sir.
856
00:56:25,716 --> 00:56:27,092
GORDON: No, you're not.
857
00:56:27,884 --> 00:56:29,886
(MURMURING)
858
00:56:29,886 --> 00:56:31,346
JAN: This is the plan.
859
00:56:31,346 --> 00:56:32,764
We start with the scientific evidence
860
00:56:32,764 --> 00:56:34,850
and then the medical experts and their evidence,
861
00:56:34,850 --> 00:56:38,061
then the parents,
and then your testimony.
862
00:56:38,061 --> 00:56:41,106
Now, your presence is very important in the courtroom.
863
00:56:41,106 --> 00:56:43,692
This is where the jury
gets to know you.
864
00:56:43,692 --> 00:56:45,777
Well, if you're there some days and not other days,
they say,
865
00:56:45,777 --> 00:56:48,864
"Well, why wasn't she there?"
and "Does she really care?"
866
00:56:48,864 --> 00:56:49,906
And this kind of thing.
867
00:56:49,906 --> 00:56:52,034
I'll be there every day.
868
00:56:52,034 --> 00:56:53,702
In the back
left-hand corner.
869
00:56:53,702 --> 00:56:55,704
Well, wherever
you're most comfortable.
870
00:56:55,704 --> 00:56:56,997
See that was our plan.
871
00:56:56,997 --> 00:57:01,376
If we ever got separated in the grocery store or the...
872
00:57:01,376 --> 00:57:03,086
Or the department store,
that's where we'd meet.
873
00:57:03,086 --> 00:57:05,714
Oh, I see. I see.
874
00:57:08,884 --> 00:57:10,010
(SIGHS)
875
00:57:10,010 --> 00:57:12,220
Well, in the end,
when he was dying, he said,
876
00:57:12,220 --> 00:57:15,474
"I'll meet you in the back left-hand corner of heaven."
877
00:57:28,862 --> 00:57:30,238
BAILIFF: All rise.
878
00:57:30,238 --> 00:57:32,074
The court is now
in session.
879
00:57:32,074 --> 00:57:35,202
The honorable Walter J.
Skinner presiding.
880
00:57:35,202 --> 00:57:39,206
Civil action 84-16-72.
881
00:57:39,206 --> 00:57:42,668
Anderson and All v.
W. R. Grace and Beatrice Foods.
882
00:57:50,759 --> 00:57:51,760
JAN: Ladies and gentlemen,
883
00:57:54,304 --> 00:57:57,683
there's a small town north
of Boston called Woburn.
884
00:57:57,683 --> 00:58:02,020
Now, Woburn is
like many small towns.
885
00:58:02,020 --> 00:58:04,106
It has homes.
It has churches.
886
00:58:04,106 --> 00:58:06,316
It has schools.
It has industry.
887
00:58:07,067 --> 00:58:08,902
But Woburn has
something else.
888
00:58:08,902 --> 00:58:15,198
It has more than its share of sickness and death.
889
00:58:15,198 --> 00:58:18,870
CHEESEMAN: It's true small amounts
of solvents were left on the ground.
890
00:58:19,705 --> 00:58:21,456
Why? To evaporate.
891
00:58:21,456 --> 00:58:24,251
Did they? Yes.
These chemicals
892
00:58:24,251 --> 00:58:26,962
never reached Wells G and H
893
00:58:26,962 --> 00:58:30,590
almost half a mile away,
and we will show that.
894
00:58:30,590 --> 00:58:34,803
And they never made anyone sick,
and we will show that too.
895
00:58:34,803 --> 00:58:38,724
FACHER: The idea of criminal
court is crime and punishment.
896
00:58:38,724 --> 00:58:42,644
The idea of civil court and of personal injury law,
by nature,
897
00:58:42,644 --> 00:58:44,896
though no one likes to say it out loud,
least of all
898
00:58:44,896 --> 00:58:48,150
the, uh, personal injury
lawyer himself,
899
00:58:48,150 --> 00:58:50,777
(CHUCKLES) is money.
900
00:58:50,777 --> 00:58:52,904
Money for suffering,
money for death.
901
00:58:52,904 --> 00:58:56,491
As if that could somehow
relieve suffering,
902
00:58:56,491 --> 00:58:58,535
as if that could
somehow
903
00:58:58,535 --> 00:59:01,663
bring dead children
back to life.
904
00:59:01,663 --> 00:59:03,415
Every credit card
application we send in,
905
00:59:03,415 --> 00:59:05,167
we get two more in the mail.
(THUNDER RUMBLING)
906
00:59:05,167 --> 00:59:07,669
Here's one from some bank I
never heard of in North Dakota.
907
00:59:07,669 --> 00:59:10,756
Fill it out. Fill them...
Fill them all out.
908
00:59:12,799 --> 00:59:14,926
It's the last great
pyramid scheme in America.
909
00:59:14,926 --> 00:59:16,553
GEOLOGIST: The terrain
of east Woburn
910
00:59:16,553 --> 00:59:18,722
was actually shaped
12,000 years ago.
911
00:59:18,722 --> 00:59:22,350
Uh, during the end
of the last Ice Age.
912
00:59:22,350 --> 00:59:26,646
Now, at this time,
an immense glacier, over a mile thick,
913
00:59:26,646 --> 00:59:29,608
covered the face of what we
would now call New England.
914
00:59:29,608 --> 00:59:31,026
Cancel The American Lawyer.
915
00:59:31,026 --> 00:59:34,279
Cancel all the legal
journals. Who needs them?
916
00:59:34,279 --> 00:59:35,363
And call the janitorial
people.
917
00:59:35,363 --> 00:59:37,532
Tell them their services
are no longer required.
918
00:59:37,532 --> 00:59:39,451
We can empty our own
fucking ashtrays.
919
00:59:39,451 --> 00:59:42,370
WITNESS: We want to try to understand
what's going on in the groundwater system.
920
00:59:42,370 --> 00:59:45,707
(ASHTRAY CLATTERS) The place
we have to start is the soil itself.
921
00:59:45,707 --> 00:59:47,375
Now these are actual
soil samples...
922
00:59:47,375 --> 00:59:50,253
So that now you can see
the Aberjona River valley.
923
00:59:50,253 --> 00:59:55,175
(VACUUM HUMMING) I...
I can't send you the entire balance right now,
924
00:59:55,175 --> 00:59:57,761
but, perhaps,
we could work out some sort of a deal.
925
00:59:58,637 --> 01:00:00,889
How much can I send
you right now?
926
01:00:01,890 --> 01:00:02,849
Uh, nothing.
927
01:00:05,060 --> 01:00:08,271
FACHER: A plaintiff's case
depends on momentum.
928
01:00:08,271 --> 01:00:09,606
The fewer objections he gets,
929
01:00:09,606 --> 01:00:11,608
the better his
case will go.
930
01:00:11,608 --> 01:00:15,570
So, whenever you can,
you should object.
931
01:00:15,570 --> 01:00:18,073
(SOFTLY) 18 times yesterday.
20 times today.
932
01:00:18,073 --> 01:00:20,575
And they're not even his witnesses,
they're his.
933
01:00:20,575 --> 01:00:24,371
I can't not object when you
phrase questions so improperly.
934
01:00:24,371 --> 01:00:26,915
Now just from a craftsman's point of view...
935
01:00:26,915 --> 01:00:29,084
He is deliberately
trying to destroy
936
01:00:29,084 --> 01:00:30,252
the rhythm of my case.
937
01:00:30,252 --> 01:00:31,628
I have no problem.
938
01:00:32,921 --> 01:00:34,089
Here we are.
Man!
939
01:00:34,089 --> 01:00:36,007
You've got to have some
good luck on this one.
940
01:00:36,007 --> 01:00:38,552
(SCRATCHING TICKET) Hold on,
hold on, hold on. 17, 17, 17.
941
01:00:38,552 --> 01:00:41,596
You got a winner there? No.
No. Shit.
942
01:00:41,596 --> 01:00:43,890
FACHER: Relevance, objection.
943
01:00:43,890 --> 01:00:45,934
Hearsay, objection.
944
01:00:45,934 --> 01:00:48,270
Best evidence, objection.
945
01:00:48,270 --> 01:00:50,105
Authenticity.
Objection.
946
01:00:50,105 --> 01:00:52,065
If you should fall asleep
at the counsel table,
947
01:00:52,065 --> 01:00:55,360
the first thing you say
when you wake up should be...
948
01:00:56,695 --> 01:00:57,229
Huh?
949
01:01:00,615 --> 01:01:03,702
Objection.
LAW STUDENTS: Objection.
950
01:01:03,702 --> 01:01:05,370
BAILIFF: Do you swear to tell the truth,
the whole truth
951
01:01:05,370 --> 01:01:07,789
and nothing but the truth,
so help you God?
952
01:01:07,789 --> 01:01:09,291
RILEY: Yes.
953
01:01:09,291 --> 01:01:12,460
Good morning, Mr. Riley.
Would you care for a glass of water?
954
01:01:15,338 --> 01:01:16,715
No, thank you.
955
01:01:19,050 --> 01:01:21,303
Are you sure?
956
01:01:21,303 --> 01:01:24,973
FACHER: Now,
the single greatest liability a lawyer can have
957
01:01:24,973 --> 01:01:26,016
is pride.
958
01:01:26,016 --> 01:01:27,100
Pride. (SIGHS)
959
01:01:27,100 --> 01:01:30,979
Pride has lost more cases
than lousy evidence,
960
01:01:30,979 --> 01:01:35,191
idiot witnesses and a hanging judge all put together.
961
01:01:35,191 --> 01:01:38,904
There is absolutely no place
in a courtroom for pride.
962
01:01:38,904 --> 01:01:41,823
Mr. Riley,
you own the property referred to often
963
01:01:41,823 --> 01:01:44,284
in this courtroom as
the 15 acres, do you not?
964
01:01:44,284 --> 01:01:45,535
RILEY: No, I don't.
965
01:01:45,535 --> 01:01:47,662
That land is currently owned by a nonprofit corporation
966
01:01:47,662 --> 01:01:50,665
called the Wildwood
Conservancy.
967
01:01:50,665 --> 01:01:53,043
Oh, yes, yes. Here it is.
The Wildwood Conservancy.
968
01:01:53,043 --> 01:01:54,586
Now what is that, some kind
of conservation group?
969
01:01:54,586 --> 01:01:57,130
RILEY: Yes, sir.
Hmm.
970
01:01:57,130 --> 01:02:00,967
I've donated the land as a
sanctuary for indigent wildlife.
971
01:02:00,967 --> 01:02:03,011
(SPECTATORS CHUCKLE)
972
01:02:03,011 --> 01:02:04,679
(CHUCKLING)
973
01:02:04,679 --> 01:02:06,556
Well, you know, I don't
think the indigent wildlife
974
01:02:06,556 --> 01:02:08,183
has heard about
this, Mr. Riley.
975
01:02:08,183 --> 01:02:10,518
I've been out there on several occasions,
and I've yet to see
976
01:02:10,518 --> 01:02:12,395
a single bird or any
other living thing.
977
01:02:13,521 --> 01:02:15,523
I get him to say
no, no, no, no, no.
978
01:02:15,523 --> 01:02:18,276
Then he says yes once,
and I got him.
979
01:02:18,276 --> 01:02:19,152
He's not that stupid.
980
01:02:19,152 --> 01:02:20,904
You leave him up
there long enough,
981
01:02:20,904 --> 01:02:22,948
he's gonna figure out
a way to get you.
982
01:02:24,532 --> 01:02:25,992
I'm not that stupid.
983
01:02:29,245 --> 01:02:31,039
Mr. Riley,
984
01:02:31,039 --> 01:02:33,750
experts have testified
in this court
985
01:02:33,750 --> 01:02:36,211
that your land,
your 15 acres,
986
01:02:36,211 --> 01:02:39,714
is the most grotesquely polluted
land in all of New England.
987
01:02:39,714 --> 01:02:41,299
Now, you have no idea
how it got that way?
988
01:02:41,299 --> 01:02:43,426
No, sir.
989
01:02:43,426 --> 01:02:45,011
Does it upset you
to learn this?
990
01:02:46,137 --> 01:02:47,013
RILEY: Very much so.
991
01:02:48,056 --> 01:02:48,932
Really? Why?
992
01:02:51,726 --> 01:02:54,062
FACHER: And one last thing.
993
01:02:54,062 --> 01:02:57,482
Unless you know exactly what the answer's going to be,
994
01:02:57,482 --> 01:03:00,902
never, ever ask
a witness why.
995
01:03:01,736 --> 01:03:02,779
Never.
996
01:03:05,240 --> 01:03:06,533
(MAN COUGHS)
997
01:03:06,533 --> 01:03:11,162
My factory is the oldest surviving business in Woburn.
998
01:03:11,162 --> 01:03:13,957
When the other tanners
moved out, I stayed.
999
01:03:13,957 --> 01:03:16,710
Even though, for me,
that was a very big financial burden.
1000
01:03:16,710 --> 01:03:18,378
This is not the question.
I stayed because Woburn is my home.
1001
01:03:18,378 --> 01:03:21,089
Mr. Riley... Your Honor, this is not the question.
It's my children's home.
1002
01:03:21,089 --> 01:03:23,925
He's trying to answer it,
Mr. Schlichtmann...
1003
01:03:23,925 --> 01:03:25,635
JAN: Well, he's not answering it.
If you'll just let him.
1004
01:03:35,395 --> 01:03:36,980
That land
1005
01:03:36,980 --> 01:03:40,817
has been in my family
for three generations.
1006
01:03:40,817 --> 01:03:44,988
That land, to me,
is hallowed ground.
1007
01:03:44,988 --> 01:03:47,157
So when you ask me
would I be upset,
1008
01:03:47,157 --> 01:03:52,120
if someone came onto that
land and desecrated it,
1009
01:03:52,120 --> 01:03:55,415
land that's part of
the town that I love?
1010
01:03:55,415 --> 01:03:56,916
My answer to your question,
Mr. Schlichtmann,
1011
01:04:02,380 --> 01:04:03,715
is yes.
1012
01:04:12,766 --> 01:04:14,976
(CHAIR SCRAPING FLOOR)
1013
01:04:21,608 --> 01:04:23,485
I have no further
questions, Your Honor.
1014
01:04:28,156 --> 01:04:30,116
EVANGELIST:
And the sad part of it is,
1015
01:04:30,116 --> 01:04:33,912
they're robbing themselves
of the blessing of giving.
1016
01:04:33,912 --> 01:04:35,663
And I know a lot of y'all
ain't gonna believe this,
1017
01:04:35,663 --> 01:04:37,165
but I got to share
this with you.
1018
01:04:37,165 --> 01:04:39,292
If somebody wrote a check tomorrow
for the total budget of my church,
1019
01:04:39,292 --> 01:04:42,587
it wouldn't affect
my giving one penny.
1020
01:04:42,587 --> 01:04:46,883
Ain't nobody gonna rob me of
the blessing I get from giving!
1021
01:04:46,883 --> 01:04:49,260
Now you know why a lot
of folks ain't getting?
1022
01:04:49,260 --> 01:04:51,888
'Cause they ain't giving!
1023
01:04:51,888 --> 01:04:56,184
So not rob yourself of
the blessing of giving.
1024
01:04:56,184 --> 01:04:58,311
You'll never guess
what I did last night.
1025
01:04:58,311 --> 01:05:00,814
You'll like this.
(CHUCKLES)
1026
01:05:00,814 --> 01:05:03,983
I pledged $200
to a televangelist.
1027
01:05:03,983 --> 01:05:05,026
I'm not kidding.
1028
01:05:05,026 --> 01:05:06,736
He said, "Give
and ye shall receive."
1029
01:05:06,736 --> 01:05:09,072
I called him right up.
(LAUGHS)
1030
01:05:09,072 --> 01:05:11,032
I know, I know what
you're thinking.
1031
01:05:11,032 --> 01:05:12,575
You're thinking,
"Gordon's losing it.
1032
01:05:12,575 --> 01:05:15,120
"He's falling apart.
1033
01:05:15,120 --> 01:05:17,038
"He's probably buying
lottery tickets."
1034
01:05:17,956 --> 01:05:18,409
(LAUGHS)
1035
01:05:20,750 --> 01:05:23,795
I bought a few,
I'll admit it. I know. But,
1036
01:05:23,795 --> 01:05:26,256
seriously, the jackpot's $45 million.
1037
01:05:26,256 --> 01:05:29,926
That's just this week.
You should see the lines out there.
1038
01:05:31,052 --> 01:05:31,546
(LAUGHS)
1039
01:05:33,555 --> 01:05:34,889
Is that a gun?
1040
01:05:37,183 --> 01:05:38,017
What?
1041
01:05:41,187 --> 01:05:42,063
This? No.
1042
01:05:43,523 --> 01:05:44,649
No, this is for you.
1043
01:05:48,862 --> 01:05:50,196
My krugerrands.
I've had them forever.
1044
01:05:53,241 --> 01:05:54,075
I want you to have them.
1045
01:05:54,075 --> 01:05:58,788
And... This is the deed
to my house.
1046
01:05:58,788 --> 01:06:01,875
And here is Conway's
and Crowley's and Jan's.
1047
01:06:01,875 --> 01:06:04,919
See? I come bearing gifts.
1048
01:06:09,924 --> 01:06:11,259
We really need the money.
1049
01:06:17,682 --> 01:06:20,310
AUFIERO: (OVER EARPHONES) You can
tell when your child isn't feeling well.
1050
01:06:20,310 --> 01:06:23,146
(TYPING) "Has he got a temperature?"
You say no.
1051
01:06:23,146 --> 01:06:24,939
"He's all right then,"
they say. (PHONE RINGING)
1052
01:06:24,939 --> 01:06:27,609
"Don't worry.
Bring him into the clinic Monday morning."
1053
01:06:27,609 --> 01:06:32,280
JAN: All right, finally the families.
He died Monday morning.
1054
01:06:32,280 --> 01:06:34,157
We'll start with Jimmy Anderson.
(TAPE CONTINUES)
1055
01:06:34,157 --> 01:06:36,117
We count his trips
to the hospital,
1056
01:06:36,117 --> 01:06:37,952
the futile chemotherapy treatments.
(PHONE RINGING)
1057
01:06:37,952 --> 01:06:39,787
Then the other kids,
one by one,
1058
01:06:39,787 --> 01:06:41,956
ending with Jarrod Aufiero...
(RINGING CONTINUES)
1059
01:06:41,956 --> 01:06:43,708
...dying in his father's
arms on the highway.
1060
01:06:43,708 --> 01:06:45,210
(RINGING CONTINUES)
Will somebody get that?
1061
01:06:47,879 --> 01:06:49,714
(RINGING CONTINUES)
1062
01:06:50,840 --> 01:06:52,717
Where is everybody?
1063
01:06:52,717 --> 01:06:54,385
You're just noticing now?
1064
01:06:54,385 --> 01:06:56,471
Gordon laid everybody
off two weeks ago.
1065
01:06:56,471 --> 01:06:57,305
(RINGING CONTINUES)
Gordon?
1066
01:06:59,766 --> 01:07:01,267
Instead of sitting there
reading a magazine,
1067
01:07:01,267 --> 01:07:04,145
why don't you go to Uncle Pete and get me a staff?
1068
01:07:04,145 --> 01:07:06,314
That's a good idea.
(RINGING CONTINUES)
1069
01:07:06,314 --> 01:07:07,690
Why didn't I think of that?
1070
01:07:09,275 --> 01:07:10,818
(CONTINUES RINGING)
1071
01:07:12,528 --> 01:07:13,863
Hello.
1072
01:07:26,292 --> 01:07:27,627
(EXHALES)
1073
01:07:27,627 --> 01:07:29,128
I was told there was a Cheeseman on the Mayflower.
1074
01:07:29,128 --> 01:07:30,838
SECRETARY: This way, sir.
JAN: Thank you.
1075
01:07:30,838 --> 01:07:33,091
SKINNER: Ah, Jan,
have a seat.
1076
01:07:33,091 --> 01:07:36,094
You want something to drink?
Some coffee, soda?
1077
01:07:37,178 --> 01:07:38,596
You've been talking
without my being present?
1078
01:07:38,596 --> 01:07:41,140
(SIGHS)
1079
01:07:41,140 --> 01:07:43,851
No, we have been drinking coffee
without your being present.
1080
01:07:43,851 --> 01:07:46,104
Don't be so paranoid.
They were early.
1081
01:07:49,691 --> 01:07:50,191
All right. What's up?
1082
01:07:51,609 --> 01:07:53,194
Jerry?
1083
01:07:53,194 --> 01:07:56,197
FACHER: Last night,
I... I was at a ball game.
1084
01:07:56,197 --> 01:07:58,950
It was the seventh
inning stretch,
1085
01:07:58,950 --> 01:08:00,368
and I was standing there,
and I don't know why,
1086
01:08:00,368 --> 01:08:03,204
but it occurred to me
at that moment,
1087
01:08:03,204 --> 01:08:06,207
that unless you've
proven that any, uh...
1088
01:08:06,207 --> 01:08:07,583
What word should we use?
Uh, chemicals?
1089
01:08:07,583 --> 01:08:10,044
Poisons.
1090
01:08:10,044 --> 01:08:11,504
All right. If you like that word,
I'll use it.
1091
01:08:11,504 --> 01:08:15,216
Unless you've proven that any
poisons actually reached the wells,
1092
01:08:15,883 --> 01:08:18,469
there's no case.
1093
01:08:18,469 --> 01:08:22,140
And, therefore,
no need to make these families,
1094
01:08:22,140 --> 01:08:24,058
who've already
suffered so much,
1095
01:08:24,058 --> 01:08:26,811
relive their suffering
all over again
1096
01:08:27,603 --> 01:08:29,772
by putting them
on the stand.
1097
01:08:32,567 --> 01:08:35,486
Your Honor, you've got...
That's interesting.
1098
01:08:35,486 --> 01:08:36,946
What?
1099
01:08:36,946 --> 01:08:38,865
I think I'd have
to agree with that.
1100
01:08:39,574 --> 01:08:40,867
Well, Your Honor...
Yes,
1101
01:08:40,867 --> 01:08:45,288
if the jury decides favorably on the geological evidence,
1102
01:08:45,288 --> 01:08:47,582
yes, then you could bring your families in.
Otherwise...
1103
01:08:47,582 --> 01:08:50,460
Your Honor, the jury came into this
courtroom expecting a human drama.
1104
01:08:50,460 --> 01:08:52,253
I don't care what they expect.
Instead, for three months,
1105
01:08:52,253 --> 01:08:54,255
we've been giving them
lessons in geology.
1106
01:08:54,255 --> 01:08:56,924
Now, we had to do that,
but now it's over, finally.
1107
01:08:56,924 --> 01:08:58,509
Now it's time...
Now
1108
01:08:58,509 --> 01:09:00,219
we have to see where we are before we can move on.
1109
01:09:00,219 --> 01:09:03,056
And before we subject
these families
1110
01:09:03,056 --> 01:09:05,183
to more trauma
than is necessary...
1111
01:09:05,183 --> 01:09:07,060
Because that would
just be cruel.
1112
01:09:07,060 --> 01:09:09,270
JAN: They... They want to testify.
SKINNER: Mr. Schlichtmann.
1113
01:09:09,270 --> 01:09:10,563
They need to testify!
The decision has been made.
1114
01:09:10,563 --> 01:09:12,690
Well, this is the defendant's plan.
No, it's my plan.
1115
01:09:12,690 --> 01:09:15,651
This is Facher's plan right from the beginning.
It's my plan.
1116
01:09:15,651 --> 01:09:17,278
He told me. He threatened me.
It's my plan!
1117
01:09:27,497 --> 01:09:28,331
Now...
1118
01:09:29,082 --> 01:09:34,128
My plan is to
present the jury
1119
01:09:34,128 --> 01:09:36,756
with some simple questions.
1120
01:09:36,756 --> 01:09:40,218
SKINNER: Indeed,
how you answer these three questions
1121
01:09:40,218 --> 01:09:42,637
will determine whether
or not this trial continues.
1122
01:09:42,637 --> 01:09:45,807
It's not that I disagree with them.
I don't understand them.
1123
01:09:45,807 --> 01:09:48,976
What don't you understand?
They're straightforward questions.
1124
01:09:48,976 --> 01:09:52,188
"Have the plaintiffs established
by preponderance of evidence
1125
01:09:52,188 --> 01:09:54,816
"that chemicals
containing TCE
1126
01:09:54,816 --> 01:09:58,695
"were disposed of on the W. R.
Grace and Beatrice-owned lands
1127
01:09:58,695 --> 01:10:01,155
"after October 1, 1964,
1128
01:10:01,155 --> 01:10:05,493
"and August 27, 1968,
respectively,
1129
01:10:05,493 --> 01:10:08,746
"and did those chemicals contribute
to the well water contamination?"
1130
01:10:08,746 --> 01:10:10,415
These dates, for one thing.
What... What are they?
1131
01:10:10,415 --> 01:10:13,793
Wh... Where did they come
from? From out of a hat?
1132
01:10:13,793 --> 01:10:15,420
SKINNER: Question two.
1133
01:10:15,420 --> 01:10:16,504
"What, according to a preponderance of the evidence,
1134
01:10:16,504 --> 01:10:20,550
"was the earliest time,
the month and year,
1135
01:10:20,550 --> 01:10:23,177
"at which these chemicals
substantially contributed
1136
01:10:23,177 --> 01:10:25,221
"to the contamination
of the wells?"
1137
01:10:25,221 --> 01:10:27,473
JAN: How can they
determine that?
1138
01:10:27,473 --> 01:10:29,267
Science can't
even determine...
1139
01:10:29,267 --> 01:10:31,102
When... When the chemicals
arrived at the wells
1140
01:10:31,102 --> 01:10:32,520
with the precision that
you're asking of the jurors.
1141
01:10:33,896 --> 01:10:35,523
And, finally, three.
1142
01:10:35,523 --> 01:10:37,525
"What, according to a preponderance of the evidence,
1143
01:10:37,525 --> 01:10:41,946
"was the earliest time,
again the month and year,
1144
01:10:41,946 --> 01:10:43,990
"at which substantial contribution
referred to in question two
1145
01:10:43,990 --> 01:10:50,163
"was caused, if it was,
by the negligent conduct of the defendants?"
1146
01:10:50,163 --> 01:10:52,540
What does that mean?
It's... It's like English
1147
01:10:52,540 --> 01:10:54,167
translated into Japanese
back into English again.
1148
01:10:54,167 --> 01:10:55,543
Mr. Schlichtmann,
I've heard enough.
1149
01:10:55,543 --> 01:10:58,713
Your Honor, no one can
answer these questions.
1150
01:10:58,713 --> 01:11:00,882
I worked very hard on these questions.
You're asking for answers
1151
01:11:00,882 --> 01:11:02,550
that are unknowable.
1152
01:11:02,550 --> 01:11:05,052
I said I have heard enough.
You're asking these people to create a fiction...
1153
01:11:05,052 --> 01:11:08,890
That will stand for the truth,
but won't be the truth. Enough!
1154
01:11:10,057 --> 01:11:12,518
Once again,
I remind you
1155
01:11:12,518 --> 01:11:16,105
not to discuss your views
with any outside party
1156
01:11:16,105 --> 01:11:17,356
and excuse you...
1157
01:11:19,567 --> 01:11:22,445
Don't worry about it.
Everything's under control.
1158
01:11:23,738 --> 01:11:25,239
(DOOR OPENS AND CLOSES)
1159
01:11:25,239 --> 01:11:28,034
SKINNER: And excuse you
to your deliberations.
1160
01:11:28,743 --> 01:11:30,870
Thank you.
1161
01:11:31,913 --> 01:11:33,998
(CRASHING AND GLASS BREAKING)
1162
01:11:37,502 --> 01:11:39,253
(CRASHING CONTINUES)
1163
01:11:44,008 --> 01:11:45,510
(CRASHING CONTINUES)
1164
01:11:49,222 --> 01:11:51,057
(CRASHING CONTINUES)
1165
01:11:55,895 --> 01:11:56,395
(CRASHING CONTINUES)
1166
01:12:10,785 --> 01:12:12,954
(MUSIC PLAYING ON RADIO)
1167
01:12:54,495 --> 01:12:56,581
(CHUCKLES)
I've never done this.
1168
01:12:57,331 --> 01:13:00,001
In 45 years of
practicing law,
1169
01:13:00,001 --> 01:13:02,503
I've never waited in
a corridor for a jury.
1170
01:13:03,546 --> 01:13:05,256
I always do.
1171
01:13:05,256 --> 01:13:08,009
I can tell. You...
You're good at it.
1172
01:13:09,468 --> 01:13:11,387
You seem so at
peace doing it.
1173
01:13:16,642 --> 01:13:17,977
So what do you think?
1174
01:13:17,977 --> 01:13:20,104
I... Is it good they're staying out this long or is it bad?
1175
01:13:20,771 --> 01:13:22,356
For who?
1176
01:13:22,356 --> 01:13:23,566
For me, of course.
(LAUGHING)
1177
01:13:26,152 --> 01:13:27,361
You can never tell,
can you?
1178
01:13:27,361 --> 01:13:29,405
I mean, it could
mean anything.
1179
01:13:29,405 --> 01:13:32,658
It could mean jury duty is more
fun than working at the post office.
1180
01:13:33,492 --> 01:13:34,027
(CHUCKLING)
1181
01:13:35,870 --> 01:13:37,705
It's bad for both of you.
1182
01:13:37,705 --> 01:13:38,539
You think?
1183
01:13:40,917 --> 01:13:43,252
Okay. Here's my take on it.
1184
01:13:45,379 --> 01:13:46,464
Guilty.
1185
01:13:49,050 --> 01:13:50,551
Not guilty.
1186
01:13:50,551 --> 01:13:51,761
That's what
they're gonna say.
1187
01:13:51,761 --> 01:13:54,263
And it's not gonna have
anything to do with dates
1188
01:13:54,263 --> 01:13:56,432
or groundwater measurements
or any of that crap,
1189
01:13:56,432 --> 01:14:00,519
which nobody can
understand anyway.
1190
01:14:00,519 --> 01:14:03,814
It's gonna come down to people,
like it always does.
1191
01:14:03,814 --> 01:14:08,569
You found someone who saw
him dumping stuff, you see.
1192
01:14:08,569 --> 01:14:11,530
You didn't find anyone
who saw me. No.
1193
01:14:12,073 --> 01:14:14,992
(CHUCKLING)
1194
01:14:14,992 --> 01:14:16,744
What's your take?
1195
01:14:16,744 --> 01:14:18,037
They'll see the truth.
1196
01:14:18,788 --> 01:14:19,705
The truth? Oh.
1197
01:14:21,874 --> 01:14:24,794
I thought we were talking
about a court of law.
1198
01:14:24,794 --> 01:14:27,588
Come on,
you've been around long enough to know
1199
01:14:27,588 --> 01:14:30,383
that a courtroom isn't a place to look for the truth.
1200
01:14:30,383 --> 01:14:31,759
We're lucky to find
anything here
1201
01:14:31,759 --> 01:14:34,428
that in any way
resembles the truth.
1202
01:14:34,428 --> 01:14:35,513
Oh.
1203
01:14:36,973 --> 01:14:39,433
You disagree?
1204
01:14:40,184 --> 01:14:42,436
(CHUCKLES) Since when?
1205
01:14:43,479 --> 01:14:45,439
Eight kids are dead, Jerry.
1206
01:14:46,107 --> 01:14:47,441
Jan.
1207
01:14:47,441 --> 01:14:50,987
Jan, that suit fits you better than the sentimentality.
1208
01:14:50,987 --> 01:14:52,780
(CHUCKLES)
1209
01:14:52,780 --> 01:14:55,992
That's not how you made all that money all these years,
is it?
1210
01:14:55,992 --> 01:14:58,577
You want to know when this case
stopped being about dead children?
1211
01:14:58,577 --> 01:15:00,621
The minute you filed
the complaint,
1212
01:15:00,621 --> 01:15:02,581
the minute it entered
the justice system.
1213
01:15:04,417 --> 01:15:04,870
Oh, yes.
1214
01:15:08,045 --> 01:15:10,297
(SIGHS)
1215
01:15:10,297 --> 01:15:12,049
Hey, I know,
you like to gamble.
1216
01:15:12,049 --> 01:15:15,177
You're a high-stakes gambler.
That's your profession.
1217
01:15:15,177 --> 01:15:16,429
Why don't we test
your born-again faith
1218
01:15:16,429 --> 01:15:19,473
in the righteousness
of our courts
1219
01:15:20,474 --> 01:15:22,143
with a high-stakes gamble?
1220
01:15:22,435 --> 01:15:23,728
See?
1221
01:15:26,897 --> 01:15:29,316
If that's a settlement offer, Jerry,
it's not enough.
1222
01:15:29,316 --> 01:15:30,776
That's not what I hear.
1223
01:15:30,776 --> 01:15:33,738
Oh, well,
I don't know who you've been talking to.
1224
01:15:33,738 --> 01:15:35,781
The IRS.
1225
01:15:35,781 --> 01:15:37,950
Telling us they have a lien on any eventual settlement
1226
01:15:37,950 --> 01:15:42,455
in order to recover over two and a
half million dollars in unpaid taxes.
1227
01:15:42,913 --> 01:15:45,332
Yeah.
1228
01:15:45,332 --> 01:15:46,709
Well, then...
1229
01:15:46,709 --> 01:15:48,919
All right. (SIGHS)
1230
01:15:48,919 --> 01:15:49,837
What if
1231
01:15:49,837 --> 01:15:51,839
I were to add
six zeroes onto that?
1232
01:15:53,632 --> 01:15:56,177
That's right.
That would be what?
1233
01:15:56,177 --> 01:15:56,802
20 million dollars.
1234
01:15:58,179 --> 01:16:00,556
Now... (CHUCKLES)
1235
01:16:00,556 --> 01:16:02,308
That would put things
in perspective for you
1236
01:16:02,308 --> 01:16:05,186
as far as truth
and justice and, uh,
1237
01:16:05,186 --> 01:16:06,687
and dead children go?
1238
01:16:06,687 --> 01:16:08,773
If you want to talk seriously about a settlement offer,
1239
01:16:08,773 --> 01:16:11,650
let's get the decision makers together and talk seriously.
1240
01:16:11,650 --> 01:16:15,196
The decision makers
are here, aren't they?
1241
01:16:15,196 --> 01:16:17,448
I mean, you're looking
at Mr. Beatrice.
1242
01:16:17,448 --> 01:16:19,700
I mean, I don't have to
call anybody, do you?
1243
01:16:19,700 --> 01:16:21,202
(CHUCKLING)
1244
01:16:24,038 --> 01:16:25,247
It's just you and me.
1245
01:16:26,248 --> 01:16:28,459
We're like kings.
1246
01:16:29,043 --> 01:16:31,712
Well, we are kings.
1247
01:16:31,712 --> 01:16:35,299
Sitting in our castles
deciding important things.
1248
01:16:35,299 --> 01:16:36,884
Deciding the fates
of others
1249
01:16:36,884 --> 01:16:40,846
and counting money
in our counting room.
1250
01:16:40,846 --> 01:16:41,889
(CHUCKLING)
1251
01:16:43,808 --> 01:16:44,301
(SIGHS)
1252
01:16:56,278 --> 01:16:59,365
I'll tell you what.
I'll leave this here.
1253
01:16:59,365 --> 01:17:02,368
I'll go back down the hall
to my throne room,
1254
01:17:02,368 --> 01:17:03,828
and I'll await your decision.
1255
01:17:03,828 --> 01:17:04,321
Yeah.
1256
01:17:11,585 --> 01:17:13,587
Oh, if you're really looking for the truth, Jan,
1257
01:17:13,587 --> 01:17:16,465
look for it
where it is.
1258
01:17:16,465 --> 01:17:19,426
At the bottom
of a bottomless pit.
1259
01:17:25,099 --> 01:17:26,767
(FOOTSTEPS RECEDING)
1260
01:17:58,841 --> 01:17:59,842
(RIPPING BILL)
1261
01:18:11,145 --> 01:18:12,438
Okay. (CHUCKLES)
1262
01:18:13,856 --> 01:18:16,567
(ANNOUNCER TALKING
INDISTINCTLY ON RADIO)
1263
01:18:23,365 --> 01:18:24,742
(BALL BOUNCING)
1264
01:18:27,494 --> 01:18:29,455
SKINNER: Mr. Foreman,
members of the jury,
1265
01:18:29,455 --> 01:18:29,952
have you reached a verdict?
1266
01:18:31,498 --> 01:18:31,916
FOREMAN: Yes, Your Honor.
1267
01:18:34,168 --> 01:18:35,002
(PAPER RUSTLING)
1268
01:18:46,847 --> 01:18:47,973
With respect
to W. R. Grace,
1269
01:18:50,017 --> 01:18:52,186
the jury has answered
1270
01:18:52,186 --> 01:18:53,187
yes to question one
1271
01:18:53,187 --> 01:18:57,024
regarding trichloroethylene
contamination
1272
01:18:57,024 --> 01:18:59,735
requiring that we proceed
further in the case against Grace
1273
01:18:59,735 --> 01:19:02,655
to a second stage
of this trial.
1274
01:19:04,198 --> 01:19:07,201
In regard to Beatrice,
1275
01:19:07,201 --> 01:19:09,286
the jury has answered
1276
01:19:09,286 --> 01:19:10,913
no to question one
1277
01:19:10,913 --> 01:19:13,874
in all its points pertaining to contamination,
1278
01:19:13,874 --> 01:19:17,211
which renders questions
two and three
1279
01:19:17,211 --> 01:19:20,047
inapplicable, ending
the case against Beatrice.
1280
01:19:20,047 --> 01:19:23,300
Mr. Facher, that means
you're excused.
1281
01:19:23,300 --> 01:19:24,593
Thank you, Your Honor.
1282
01:19:25,970 --> 01:19:26,887
We are, uh...
1283
01:19:28,097 --> 01:19:30,724
We're going to take
a little break now.
1284
01:19:30,724 --> 01:19:33,394
A breather till
the end of the month.
1285
01:19:33,394 --> 01:19:36,897
Once again, I remind you not to talk
to anyone about your deliberations
1286
01:19:36,897 --> 01:19:40,776
and thank you
for your service.
1287
01:19:42,444 --> 01:19:44,571
(CLEARS THROAT)
1288
01:19:50,494 --> 01:19:52,913
JAN: Disappointed? No, no,
1289
01:19:52,913 --> 01:19:54,373
we're not disappointed
at all.
1290
01:19:54,373 --> 01:19:56,583
This is a victory.
1291
01:19:56,583 --> 01:19:58,168
This sends a clear message to these companies
1292
01:19:58,168 --> 01:20:00,963
that they can no longer get away with this kind of thing.
1293
01:20:00,963 --> 01:20:01,922
So what now?
1294
01:20:01,922 --> 01:20:05,092
Right now I think
we should celebrate,
1295
01:20:05,092 --> 01:20:06,218
have some champagne.
What do you think?
1296
01:20:06,218 --> 01:20:08,804
Yes?
1297
01:20:08,804 --> 01:20:10,723
REPORTER: So you intend to go
forward with your claims against Grace?
1298
01:20:10,723 --> 01:20:11,473
JAN: Yes.
No matter how long it takes?
1299
01:20:11,473 --> 01:20:14,393
JAN: Mmm-hmm.
1300
01:20:14,393 --> 01:20:18,188
CONWAY: We have to get out
of this case as fast as we can.
1301
01:20:18,188 --> 01:20:20,858
(LAUGHS) That's the only strategy we have left.
Sign here.
1302
01:20:20,858 --> 01:20:24,403
CONWAY: The good news is
Grace wants to talk.
1303
01:20:24,403 --> 01:20:26,947
They want us to come to New
York and sit down with, uh,
1304
01:20:26,947 --> 01:20:28,490
their executive vice president,
Al Eustis.
1305
01:20:28,490 --> 01:20:33,037
So before we do that,
we need to know what our squeal point is.
1306
01:20:33,537 --> 01:20:35,164
Eight million.
1307
01:20:35,164 --> 01:20:38,709
Eight million will just about get us out of hock.
1308
01:20:38,709 --> 01:20:39,960
Bill?
1309
01:20:39,960 --> 01:20:42,004
Whatever Gordon says.
He knows the numbers.
1310
01:20:42,880 --> 01:20:43,373
Jan?
1311
01:20:45,299 --> 01:20:46,717
(SIGHS)
1312
01:20:50,471 --> 01:20:51,597
Jan,
1313
01:20:51,597 --> 01:20:54,475
every dollar we spend
is a dollar we don't have.
1314
01:20:54,475 --> 01:20:56,935
We are floating on
credit without a net.
1315
01:20:56,935 --> 01:20:59,980
Well, I don't need a net.
Mortgage my house.
1316
01:20:59,980 --> 01:21:00,433
I don't care.
1317
01:21:02,483 --> 01:21:03,817
I have.
1318
01:21:04,651 --> 01:21:06,779
And Kevin's
and Bill's and mine.
1319
01:21:06,779 --> 01:21:09,823
And I've cashed in
our retirement plan
1320
01:21:09,823 --> 01:21:11,658
and our life
insurance policies,
1321
01:21:11,658 --> 01:21:13,077
and it's gone.
1322
01:21:13,077 --> 01:21:14,703
JAN: All right,
let me put it this way.
1323
01:21:14,703 --> 01:21:19,875
If we can't make it appear that we have
money and we can go the distance,
1324
01:21:19,875 --> 01:21:22,169
they're not gonna give us
eight million dollars.
1325
01:21:22,169 --> 01:21:23,921
They're not gonna
give us eight cents.
1326
01:21:25,172 --> 01:21:26,006
You know that.
1327
01:21:27,216 --> 01:21:28,634
You all know that.
1328
01:21:28,634 --> 01:21:29,093
(STOMPS OUT CIGARETTE)
1329
01:21:36,058 --> 01:21:38,560
HOTEL CLERK: It's the nicest
suite in the hotel.
1330
01:21:38,560 --> 01:21:39,686
(BELL DINGS)
It has a living room,
1331
01:21:39,686 --> 01:21:43,565
dining room, two bedrooms,
a den, a lovely view.
1332
01:21:43,565 --> 01:21:45,943
It's $2,400 a night.
1333
01:21:48,612 --> 01:21:49,154
For our inner strength.
1334
01:21:53,200 --> 01:21:53,739
On the card?
1335
01:21:53,739 --> 01:21:55,411
Why not?
1336
01:21:57,204 --> 01:21:58,580
Farmer's Bank of Iowa.
1337
01:22:22,229 --> 01:22:24,064
Hey, there.
Hi. Jan Schlichtmann.
1338
01:22:24,064 --> 01:22:26,233
Al Eustis. Have a seat.
How are you?
1339
01:22:26,233 --> 01:22:29,862
Sorry, I'm late. (CHUCKLES)
I, uh, got lost.
1340
01:22:29,862 --> 01:22:31,738
You got lost?
Yes.
1341
01:22:31,738 --> 01:22:33,490
How did you manage that?
1342
01:22:33,490 --> 01:22:35,075
Well, I've never
been here before, so...
1343
01:22:35,075 --> 01:22:37,202
Wait. You've never been here before?
What kind of a Harvard man are you?
1344
01:22:39,288 --> 01:22:40,622
The Cornell kind.
1345
01:22:41,874 --> 01:22:42,875
Cornell?
Mmm-hmm.
1346
01:22:42,875 --> 01:22:44,501
I... I thought you
went to Harvard.
1347
01:22:44,501 --> 01:22:46,795
Hmm.
1348
01:22:46,795 --> 01:22:48,505
Well, I'm... I'm sure
somebody said that.
1349
01:22:48,505 --> 01:22:50,299
Yeah, somebody said
you went to Harvard.
1350
01:22:50,299 --> 01:22:51,175
You...
Hmm.
1351
01:22:52,050 --> 01:22:53,135
Cornell.
1352
01:22:53,135 --> 01:22:54,511
Yes.
1353
01:22:54,511 --> 01:22:57,598
Well, listen, Cornell is a...
Is a damn good school.
1354
01:22:58,932 --> 01:23:00,017
Damn good.
1355
01:23:00,601 --> 01:23:02,978
So, what do you want?
1356
01:23:04,313 --> 01:23:06,690
Well, um, I can take you
through it step by step,
1357
01:23:06,690 --> 01:23:07,983
or, if you prefer,
1358
01:23:07,983 --> 01:23:11,612
you could take this
with you, study it.
1359
01:23:11,612 --> 01:23:14,531
It's a little, uh, complicated,
but I'm sure...
1360
01:23:14,531 --> 01:23:17,993
It's an unspoken rule
in the Harvard Club, Jan.
1361
01:23:17,993 --> 01:23:20,829
Business is never
transacted here.
1362
01:23:22,080 --> 01:23:24,625
I meant, what did you
want to drink?
1363
01:23:26,126 --> 01:23:28,629
JAN: I wanted to reach
across the table
1364
01:23:28,629 --> 01:23:30,130
and strangle him
with his tie.
1365
01:23:30,130 --> 01:23:31,715
But instead, I sat
there for two hours
1366
01:23:31,715 --> 01:23:36,637
and listened to him talk about sailing
his yacht in Long Island south.
1367
01:23:36,637 --> 01:23:38,722
EUSTIS: You know,
sometimes I, uh,
1368
01:23:38,722 --> 01:23:40,599
sometimes I actually
prefer the little one.
1369
01:23:40,599 --> 01:23:44,645
The 35-footer. You know,
'cause I can crew it myself.
1370
01:23:44,645 --> 01:23:46,146
Hmm.
1371
01:23:46,146 --> 01:23:50,317
I can be all by myself,
out there alone, and, boy, it's magnificent.
1372
01:23:50,317 --> 01:23:51,860
And there's no...
1373
01:23:51,860 --> 01:23:55,531
Nobody can call you,
nobody can beep you, nobody can fax you.
1374
01:23:55,531 --> 01:23:57,491
There's... There's
no lawsuits.
1375
01:23:57,491 --> 01:23:58,575
(CHUCKLES)
1376
01:23:58,575 --> 01:24:00,494
You know what I'm talking about.
You sail, huh?
1377
01:24:00,494 --> 01:24:02,663
No.
1378
01:24:02,663 --> 01:24:04,039
You don't sail?
1379
01:24:05,165 --> 01:24:08,001
JAN: Finally, we went
to his office.
1380
01:24:08,001 --> 01:24:10,212
EUSTIS: Come on,
let's go over here and sit down for a second.
1381
01:24:10,212 --> 01:24:11,922
Come on.
It's more comfortable.
1382
01:24:12,506 --> 01:24:13,882
Come on, have a seat.
1383
01:24:13,882 --> 01:24:16,009
He... He comes
around the desk.
1384
01:24:16,468 --> 01:24:17,886
He sits down.
1385
01:24:20,430 --> 01:24:22,182
Go ahead. Sit down.
1386
01:24:22,182 --> 01:24:24,309
He puts his feet up on this spindly French antique thing.
1387
01:24:26,144 --> 01:24:29,648
And he tells me
to put my feet up.
1388
01:24:29,648 --> 01:24:30,232
Put your feet up.
Come on.
1389
01:24:30,232 --> 01:24:31,024
JAN: I don't want to.
1390
01:24:31,024 --> 01:24:33,694
No, thank you.
No, go ahead.
1391
01:24:33,694 --> 01:24:35,028
Go ahead.
1392
01:24:35,988 --> 01:24:37,364
No, really, I'm fine.
1393
01:24:37,364 --> 01:24:39,533
Nothing's gonna
break. It's all right.
1394
01:24:39,533 --> 01:24:41,368
Come on. Put them up.
1395
01:24:41,368 --> 01:24:45,706
It was weird. There was all this talk
about my putting my feet on this table.
1396
01:24:45,706 --> 01:24:46,540
EUSTIS: It's all right.
I mean it.
1397
01:24:46,540 --> 01:24:48,709
Try it. Come on.
Put the feet up.
1398
01:24:57,718 --> 01:24:59,803
Okay. There.
1399
01:24:59,803 --> 01:25:03,348
Now, let's be honest.
1400
01:25:03,348 --> 01:25:06,393
I can afford to pay you almost anything you ask.
It's not the money.
1401
01:25:08,395 --> 01:25:10,397
It's what a settlement
that high says.
1402
01:25:10,397 --> 01:25:11,815
It says we're guilty.
1403
01:25:11,815 --> 01:25:15,485
And that says to every two-bit
personal injury lawyer in Boston,
1404
01:25:15,485 --> 01:25:18,614
"Hey, let's run off to Woburn and
sign up every jerk with a head cold."
1405
01:25:18,614 --> 01:25:20,407
It creates a shark effect,
1406
01:25:20,407 --> 01:25:22,242
and that I can't afford.
1407
01:25:23,619 --> 01:25:25,370
Give me a number.
1408
01:25:25,370 --> 01:25:28,665
Well, I'm not going to
negotiate with myself, Al.
1409
01:25:28,665 --> 01:25:30,584
I'm not going to just throw out
numbers so you can say no to them.
1410
01:25:30,584 --> 01:25:33,920
You'll have to come up with a number.
Eight million.
1411
01:25:35,255 --> 01:25:35,749
Eight million?
1412
01:25:36,923 --> 01:25:39,343
He said eight million?
1413
01:25:39,343 --> 01:25:40,218
Mmm-hmm.
1414
01:25:41,428 --> 01:25:42,304
Eight million.
1415
01:25:44,973 --> 01:25:46,308
I can't go to the families with that.
1416
01:25:46,308 --> 01:25:49,269
CONWAY: Wait. What?
Who? What families?
1417
01:25:49,269 --> 01:25:52,856
JAN: I can't go to
them empty-handed.
1418
01:25:52,856 --> 01:25:53,774
What are you talking about?
1419
01:25:53,774 --> 01:25:56,818
Since when is $8 million
empty-handed?
1420
01:25:56,818 --> 01:25:59,029
$8 million is
a lot of money.
1421
01:26:00,906 --> 01:26:01,948
I owe them more than that.
1422
01:26:01,948 --> 01:26:04,326
GORDON: You owe them?
1423
01:26:04,326 --> 01:26:05,494
What do you owe them?
1424
01:26:05,494 --> 01:26:07,287
What do you owe them?
You owe them your career?
1425
01:26:07,287 --> 01:26:09,373
We're talking about
our careers here!
1426
01:26:09,373 --> 01:26:11,124
EUSTIS: You owe
them that much?
1427
01:26:11,124 --> 01:26:13,335
CROWLEY: We're talking
about our families here.
1428
01:26:13,335 --> 01:26:14,086
That's what we're talking
here, you know.
1429
01:26:14,086 --> 01:26:16,797
CROWLEY: Our families, Jan.
1430
01:26:17,881 --> 01:26:19,383
Don't do it.
1431
01:26:23,303 --> 01:26:24,346
Don't go for broke
on this one.
1432
01:26:26,473 --> 01:26:28,475
It isn't worth it, Jan.
1433
01:26:28,475 --> 01:26:30,143
(THUNDER RUMBLING)
1434
01:26:30,894 --> 01:26:34,022
(THUNDER CRACKING)
1435
01:26:43,490 --> 01:26:45,409
(THUNDER CONTINUES)
1436
01:26:51,957 --> 01:26:55,127
Nobody calls anymore?
1437
01:26:55,127 --> 01:26:57,337
Not even the creditors?
(CHUCKLES)
1438
01:26:59,005 --> 01:27:00,340
Are the phones still working?
1439
01:27:02,509 --> 01:27:03,760
(DIAL TONE)
1440
01:27:06,388 --> 01:27:07,848
(PHONE RINGING)
1441
01:27:09,975 --> 01:27:10,517
Schlichtmann,
Conway and Crowley.
1442
01:27:14,980 --> 01:27:15,478
Just a minute, please.
1443
01:27:17,524 --> 01:27:18,859
Someone named Grendon.
1444
01:27:19,276 --> 01:27:19,735
Creditor.
1445
01:27:19,735 --> 01:27:21,862
Are you here?
1446
01:27:22,863 --> 01:27:24,406
Do I look like
I'm here?
1447
01:27:26,074 --> 01:27:27,409
(GORDON MOANING)
1448
01:27:27,409 --> 01:27:28,368
Yes, but he's in
a meeting right now, sir.
1449
01:27:28,368 --> 01:27:31,913
Do me a favor, Gordon,
will you? Shut up.
1450
01:27:33,790 --> 01:27:36,501
What?
1451
01:27:36,501 --> 01:27:38,211
I'm so tired of hearing you
moan about money all the time.
1452
01:27:38,211 --> 01:27:41,506
This isn't
about money anymore.
1453
01:27:41,506 --> 01:27:43,008
No?
No.
1454
01:27:43,717 --> 01:27:44,968
What's it about?
1455
01:27:46,094 --> 01:27:47,679
(THUNDER RUMBLING)
1456
01:27:47,679 --> 01:27:48,930
What's it about, Jan?
1457
01:27:48,930 --> 01:27:50,056
Look, let's just all
try to...
1458
01:27:50,056 --> 01:27:51,433
No, I want to know.
1459
01:27:52,809 --> 01:27:55,020
I want to know what I gave up my house for.
1460
01:27:55,020 --> 01:27:57,397
My credit. My life!
1461
01:28:00,150 --> 01:28:02,402
Would you take $10 million right now?
Yes.
1462
01:28:02,402 --> 01:28:04,196
But you won't take eight?
No.
1463
01:28:04,196 --> 01:28:06,740
No. So at $10 million
this is some sort of a...
1464
01:28:06,740 --> 01:28:08,700
(STAMMERS) A mythic struggle,
1465
01:28:08,700 --> 01:28:10,243
but at eight it's just
another lawsuit.
1466
01:28:10,243 --> 01:28:14,664
If they're willing to pay eight, Gordon,
then it's not enough, is it?
1467
01:28:14,664 --> 01:28:17,042
Oh, that makes sense.
It makes perfect sense.
1468
01:28:17,042 --> 01:28:21,004
So the only thing you'll accept is
what they're not willing to give us.
1469
01:28:21,546 --> 01:28:23,882
Listen to yourself!
1470
01:28:23,882 --> 01:28:26,301
Well, I, for one, am sick
of listening to you.
1471
01:28:26,301 --> 01:28:27,969
Lost enough because of you!
1472
01:28:27,969 --> 01:28:30,388
You wouldn't have anything
to lose if it wasn't for me.
1473
01:28:30,388 --> 01:28:33,308
Everything you have,
I got for you!
1474
01:28:33,308 --> 01:28:34,976
I don't have anything, Jan!
1475
01:28:34,976 --> 01:28:37,229
What do I have?
1476
01:28:37,229 --> 01:28:39,689
I... I got, uh,
I got a couple bucks
1477
01:28:39,689 --> 01:28:41,191
and some bus transfers.
1478
01:28:41,191 --> 01:28:44,945
I've got a savings account
1479
01:28:44,945 --> 01:28:46,321
from when I was 12 years old.
1480
01:28:46,321 --> 01:28:48,824
Here. There's $37 in here.
1481
01:28:48,824 --> 01:28:52,452
With interest after 25 years,
there's probably $47. Take it.
1482
01:28:52,452 --> 01:28:54,162
CROWLEY: Gordon... Add it.
Add it to the war chest.
1483
01:28:54,162 --> 01:28:57,457
Use it to fight injustice.
Stand up for principles with that.
1484
01:28:57,457 --> 01:29:00,502
Go down in flames with it
for all I care!
1485
01:29:00,502 --> 01:29:02,295
Only next time...
1486
01:29:02,295 --> 01:29:04,422
"Next time."
That's a laugh.
1487
01:29:04,422 --> 01:29:08,218
Ask us if we want
to go down with you!
1488
01:29:08,218 --> 01:29:10,011
(THUNDERCLAP)
(ELECTRICITY ARCING)
1489
01:29:13,265 --> 01:29:15,308
(THUNDER CONTINUES)
1490
01:30:04,190 --> 01:30:06,443
(DIAL TONE)
1491
01:30:06,443 --> 01:30:06,936
(DIALING)
1492
01:30:14,034 --> 01:30:15,994
(LINE RINGING)
1493
01:30:15,994 --> 01:30:17,871
(LINE PICKS UP)
1494
01:30:17,871 --> 01:30:20,415
Uh, I'd like to leave a message for Al Eustis, please.
1495
01:30:22,876 --> 01:30:24,002
Jan Schlichtmann.
1496
01:30:25,545 --> 01:30:28,506
WORKMAN: Let's get this
junk out of here.
1497
01:30:28,506 --> 01:30:31,509
SKINNER: I've been informed that a
settlement agreement has been reached.
1498
01:30:31,509 --> 01:30:34,220
As a condition
of this agreement,
1499
01:30:34,220 --> 01:30:38,642
the exact terms shall remain
private among the parties involved.
1500
01:30:38,642 --> 01:30:41,895
I want to thank you
for your service.
1501
01:30:41,895 --> 01:30:43,772
GORDON: Our contingency fee,
1502
01:30:43,772 --> 01:30:47,734
as you know, as you agreed to,
as is customary,
1503
01:30:47,734 --> 01:30:49,361
is 40 %.
1504
01:30:49,361 --> 01:30:55,575
But Jan suggested, and we all agreed,
to reduce that to 28 %.
1505
01:30:55,575 --> 01:30:57,494
Or $2.2 million.
1506
01:30:57,494 --> 01:31:01,748
Our expenses,
what we actually paid out trying this case
1507
01:31:01,748 --> 01:31:04,250
comes to $3.5 million.
1508
01:31:04,250 --> 01:31:08,254
Now, subtracting that
and the 28 % in fees
1509
01:31:08,254 --> 01:31:10,757
from the $8 million
we got from Grace,
1510
01:31:10,757 --> 01:31:13,134
and dividing it
equally among you,
1511
01:31:13,134 --> 01:31:15,679
comes out to
$375,000 per family.
1512
01:31:26,648 --> 01:31:28,608
And they're gonna
clean the place up?
1513
01:31:30,819 --> 01:31:32,153
No.
1514
01:31:33,863 --> 01:31:35,115
Mmm-mmm.
1515
01:31:35,115 --> 01:31:38,368
ANNE: When you first came out here Mr. Schlichtmann,
1516
01:31:38,368 --> 01:31:41,162
when we first spoke,
1517
01:31:41,162 --> 01:31:43,790
I told you, I wasn't
interested in money.
1518
01:31:45,417 --> 01:31:46,835
(SOFTLY) Here it comes.
1519
01:31:46,835 --> 01:31:48,128
What I wanted
1520
01:31:48,128 --> 01:31:50,505
was an apology from someone
1521
01:31:50,505 --> 01:31:52,340
for what they did to my son.
1522
01:31:54,300 --> 01:31:56,928
And you said,
"Money is the apology.
1523
01:31:56,928 --> 01:32:00,223
"That's how they apologize.
With their checkbooks."
1524
01:32:03,476 --> 01:32:06,521
Would you call this
an apology?
1525
01:32:08,064 --> 01:32:10,775
No.
1526
01:32:10,775 --> 01:32:12,652
The only meaningful apology
you're going to get is from me.
1527
01:32:14,946 --> 01:32:15,780
I'm sorry.
1528
01:32:19,659 --> 01:32:21,661
I'm afraid that
isn't meaningful.
1529
01:32:23,997 --> 01:32:28,293
GORDON: Mrs. Anderson,
you're looking at four guys who are broke.
1530
01:32:28,293 --> 01:32:30,336
We lost everything
trying this case.
1531
01:32:32,839 --> 01:32:36,926
How can you even begin
to compare what you've lost
1532
01:32:36,926 --> 01:32:38,511
to what we've lost?
1533
01:32:43,391 --> 01:32:46,519
(FOOTSTEPS RECEDING)
1534
01:32:52,650 --> 01:32:54,736
(SIGHS)
(DOOR OPENS)
1535
01:32:55,695 --> 01:32:56,188
(DOOR CLOSES)
1536
01:32:57,947 --> 01:32:59,115
(CHILDREN PLAYING)
1537
01:33:23,056 --> 01:33:24,933
Listen...
1538
01:33:24,933 --> 01:33:27,560
The minute you put money on the table,
things turn ugly.
1539
01:33:27,560 --> 01:33:28,728
It happens every time.
Forget about it.
1540
01:33:30,105 --> 01:33:32,232
But she's right.
1541
01:33:33,149 --> 01:33:35,401
She's not right.
1542
01:33:38,404 --> 01:33:40,490
Now, it's cold, wet,
1543
01:33:40,490 --> 01:33:43,034
we're standing in a swamp.
I want to go home.
1544
01:33:43,034 --> 01:33:45,912
Somewhere out here somebody
had to have seen what happened.
1545
01:33:45,912 --> 01:33:48,706
You can't do what Riley did
without somebody seeing it.
1546
01:33:50,792 --> 01:33:51,751
You're talking
about the case.
1547
01:33:54,129 --> 01:33:55,255
The case is over.
1548
01:34:04,013 --> 01:34:05,140
Jan...
1549
01:34:05,140 --> 01:34:07,433
Yeah, I know.
1550
01:34:07,433 --> 01:34:09,394
They've had it.
They want out, right?
1551
01:34:09,394 --> 01:34:10,937
It's time they went
their separate way.
1552
01:34:12,397 --> 01:34:13,314
And you know what
I think of that?
1553
01:34:13,314 --> 01:34:14,941
Fine. Let them.
1554
01:34:17,068 --> 01:34:17,735
I can imagine worse things.
1555
01:34:20,029 --> 01:34:21,656
Like what?
1556
01:34:21,656 --> 01:34:23,992
Well, so what if we
have to start over?
1557
01:34:23,992 --> 01:34:24,784
We did it once.
1558
01:34:24,784 --> 01:34:25,785
We can do it again.
The two of us.
1559
01:34:35,044 --> 01:34:36,880
JAN: Oh.
1560
01:34:37,297 --> 01:34:39,299
Oh, I see.
1561
01:34:40,216 --> 01:34:41,467
When you say
it's over,
1562
01:34:42,010 --> 01:34:43,595
you mean it's over.
1563
01:34:45,638 --> 01:34:47,891
It's time for me
to go my separate way.
1564
01:34:51,978 --> 01:34:54,480
You always went
your separate way, Jan.
1565
01:35:03,489 --> 01:35:05,658
(CAR DOORS CLOSING)
1566
01:35:25,011 --> 01:35:26,971
(ANNOUNCER TALKING OVER RADIO
IN SPANISH)
1567
01:35:31,559 --> 01:35:32,769
(CROWD CHEERING ON RADIO)
1568
01:35:32,769 --> 01:35:33,978
(ANNOUNCER CONTINUES
IN SPANISH)
1569
01:35:38,191 --> 01:35:39,484
(JACKHAMMER POUNDING)
1570
01:35:47,533 --> 01:35:49,327
(CUSTOMERS CHATTERING
IN SPANISH)
1571
01:35:49,953 --> 01:35:50,828
(GLASS CLATTERS)
1572
01:35:51,454 --> 01:35:53,206
BOY: Man!
1573
01:35:53,206 --> 01:35:54,666
(CASH REGISTER RINGS)
1574
01:35:54,666 --> 01:35:55,123
CASHIER: Your change.
1575
01:35:57,961 --> 01:35:58,495
Thank you.
1576
01:36:07,553 --> 01:36:09,472
(TRAFFIC PASSING)
1577
01:36:12,558 --> 01:36:13,935
(DISTANT SIREN WAILING)
1578
01:36:24,153 --> 01:36:25,738
(CHILD SHOUTING)
1579
01:36:28,408 --> 01:36:30,535
(MUFFLED MUSIC PLAYING)
1580
01:36:37,417 --> 01:36:40,503
(WATER DRIPPING)
1581
01:36:43,423 --> 01:36:44,757
(GLASS CLATTERS)
1582
01:36:45,341 --> 01:36:46,676
BOY: Man!
1583
01:36:57,353 --> 01:37:02,442
RILEY: This is how silicone is
put on leather to waterproof it.
1584
01:37:02,442 --> 01:37:05,945
JAN: It's poured on,
like you poured water on my table.
1585
01:37:06,946 --> 01:37:07,481
RILEY: Yeah.
1586
01:37:14,787 --> 01:37:17,040
(MAN TALKING IN SPANISH)
1587
01:37:17,040 --> 01:37:20,460
JAN: So then some of it
must spill off the leather,
1588
01:37:20,460 --> 01:37:22,712
like the water
spilling off my table.
1589
01:37:27,133 --> 01:37:28,259
That's the part
I'm interested in.
1590
01:37:28,259 --> 01:37:32,722
The spilled silicone
and trichloroethylene, sir.
1591
01:37:32,722 --> 01:37:34,432
How you disposed to that?
1592
01:37:40,897 --> 01:37:43,107
(INDISTINCT VOICES
OVER POLICE RADIO)
1593
01:37:45,818 --> 01:37:51,032
(SOFTLY) He's here to look at your records.
His court order gives him that right.
1594
01:37:51,032 --> 01:37:54,035
I'm not going to give you trouble
unless you give me trouble.
1595
01:38:05,713 --> 01:38:07,632
MRS. GRANGER: I didn't call him.
He just came.
1596
01:38:07,632 --> 01:38:10,385
Just the kind of thing you'd do.
You let him in the door.
1597
01:38:10,385 --> 01:38:13,054
Of course, I let him in. That's bad enough.
Man, I can't believe this.
1598
01:38:14,097 --> 01:38:14,549
(SIGHS)
1599
01:38:20,395 --> 01:38:21,729
(DOOR CREAKS OPEN)
1600
01:38:35,451 --> 01:38:36,494
Do you know how
1601
01:38:36,494 --> 01:38:38,704
sometimes you can get
so close to something
1602
01:38:38,704 --> 01:38:40,039
that you lose sight of it?
1603
01:38:45,044 --> 01:38:48,548
I kept looking for
someone who saw Riley
1604
01:38:48,548 --> 01:38:51,300
dumping barrels
of poison when
1605
01:38:51,300 --> 01:38:53,886
what I should have been looking for is someone
1606
01:38:53,886 --> 01:38:55,304
who helped him clean it up.
1607
01:39:03,521 --> 01:39:05,064
Was there a personal reason
1608
01:39:05,064 --> 01:39:07,358
why you rented two dump
trucks and a front loader
1609
01:39:07,358 --> 01:39:09,402
back in October of '81?
1610
01:39:09,402 --> 01:39:11,988
Or was this just part of your job at the tannery?
1611
01:39:14,240 --> 01:39:15,700
Mr. Granger?
1612
01:39:15,700 --> 01:39:16,159
I don't have to
talk to you.
1613
01:39:18,244 --> 01:39:20,746
I can tell you to get
off my property,
1614
01:39:20,746 --> 01:39:23,207
and I would be
within my rights.
1615
01:39:23,207 --> 01:39:24,083
Yes, you would.
1616
01:39:26,461 --> 01:39:27,795
(SIGHS)
1617
01:39:37,638 --> 01:39:38,764
GRANGER:
In the fall of 1981,
1618
01:39:38,764 --> 01:39:43,102
Mr. Riley instructed me
to rent a Michigan loader
1619
01:39:43,102 --> 01:39:46,564
and two 10-wheel
dump trucks.
1620
01:39:46,564 --> 01:39:48,274
Did he tell you why?
1621
01:39:48,274 --> 01:39:49,233
Yes, he did.
1622
01:39:49,233 --> 01:39:50,234
RILEY: All of it goes.
Everything.
1623
01:39:50,234 --> 01:39:53,529
I don't want to see
anything but topsoil.
1624
01:39:53,529 --> 01:39:55,448
All of it.
1625
01:39:55,448 --> 01:39:56,741
JAN: Did you think it was strange
that after rotting out there
1626
01:39:56,741 --> 01:39:59,535
for 20 or 30 years,
he had to get rid of it now?
1627
01:39:59,535 --> 01:40:00,953
Take it anywhere. I don't even want to
know where you take it. Just take it.
1628
01:40:00,953 --> 01:40:03,539
GRANGER: No, he told me why.
1629
01:40:03,539 --> 01:40:06,167
Uh, city inspectors were
coming in a couple days.
1630
01:40:06,167 --> 01:40:07,126
He didn't want them
to see it.
1631
01:40:14,926 --> 01:40:17,136
GRANGER: This went on
for several nights.
1632
01:40:17,136 --> 01:40:18,262
Fill the trucks,
trucks drive off.
1633
01:40:18,262 --> 01:40:20,306
Trucks come back empty,
fill them up again.
1634
01:40:24,310 --> 01:40:25,102
MAN: Last one.
1635
01:40:25,102 --> 01:40:27,480
GRANGER: On the last night...
1636
01:40:27,480 --> 01:40:28,981
JAN: On the last night what?
1637
01:40:30,316 --> 01:40:31,651
Are you sure you didn't
see some kids out there
1638
01:40:31,651 --> 01:40:33,945
on that last night,
1639
01:40:33,945 --> 01:40:35,905
lighting firecrackers,
drinking beers?
1640
01:40:35,905 --> 01:40:37,031
I got nothing to say to you.
1641
01:40:37,031 --> 01:40:39,617
It'd be hard to forget,
you know.
1642
01:40:40,451 --> 01:40:42,745
It apparently was
quite a sight.
1643
01:40:46,457 --> 01:40:47,250
Throw it.
Go, go, go.
1644
01:40:48,751 --> 01:40:50,378
Hey! (SHOUTING)
1645
01:40:50,378 --> 01:40:51,420
Watch out!
Hey,
1646
01:40:51,420 --> 01:40:53,464
you're on private property!
Get out of here!
1647
01:40:53,464 --> 01:40:54,674
You little punks!
1648
01:40:54,674 --> 01:40:55,675
(LAUGHING) He's
talking about you.
1649
01:40:55,675 --> 01:40:57,802
Hey, you know what,
mister? I'm sorry. Look.
1650
01:40:57,802 --> 01:41:00,429
I got a little something to make it up to you.
There you go!
1651
01:41:00,429 --> 01:41:01,347
(SHOUTING) There you go!
Boom!
1652
01:41:01,347 --> 01:41:03,683
(FIRECRACKER EXPLODES)
Get out of here!
1653
01:41:03,683 --> 01:41:07,228
I'll have you arrested.
Oh! It's like that now.
1654
01:41:07,228 --> 01:41:09,355
You want some of
that? Eat it, man!
1655
01:41:27,999 --> 01:41:30,126
Let's go,
let's go, let's go.
1656
01:41:31,711 --> 01:41:33,671
Go, go, go, go!
1657
01:41:33,671 --> 01:41:35,798
(ENGINE STARTS)
1658
01:41:45,308 --> 01:41:48,519
JAN: Did Riley threaten
you in any way
1659
01:41:48,519 --> 01:41:50,313
with what might happen to
you if you ever came forward?
1660
01:41:52,481 --> 01:41:53,608
No, sir.
1661
01:41:53,608 --> 01:41:55,234
He didn't say anything at all to you in this regard?
1662
01:42:01,907 --> 01:42:03,909
He gave me a couple
Celtics tickets.
1663
01:42:05,620 --> 01:42:06,287
Told me to keep
my mouth shut.
1664
01:42:18,090 --> 01:42:19,925
(METAL DOOR CLATTERS OPEN)
1665
01:42:25,765 --> 01:42:27,099
(GRUNTS)
1666
01:42:30,978 --> 01:42:32,104
(ROLLING PAPER
INTO TYPEWRITER)
1667
01:42:32,104 --> 01:42:34,940
(TYPEWRITER KEYBOARD
CLACKING)
1668
01:42:42,031 --> 01:42:43,491
(TYPEWRITER CARRIAGE RETURNS)
1669
01:42:43,491 --> 01:42:44,617
(TYPING CONTINUES)
1670
01:42:44,617 --> 01:42:47,870
JAN: The appeals process
is even more Byzantine
1671
01:42:47,870 --> 01:42:49,372
than the trial
it's appealing.
1672
01:42:49,372 --> 01:42:50,247
(TYPING CONTINUES)
1673
01:42:50,748 --> 01:42:52,792
It takes longer,
1674
01:42:52,792 --> 01:42:53,793
it costs more,
1675
01:42:53,793 --> 01:42:55,336
its outcome is even
less promising.
1676
01:42:58,297 --> 01:43:01,801
Only five cases in 50
will win in appeals court.
1677
01:43:01,801 --> 01:43:05,721
The odds are as easy to calculate
as they are discouraging.
1678
01:43:05,721 --> 01:43:06,972
They're 10-to-1 against.
1679
01:43:06,972 --> 01:43:08,099
(TYPEWRITER BELL DINGS)
1680
01:43:08,099 --> 01:43:10,267
Just about any bet
at any table
1681
01:43:10,267 --> 01:43:13,145
in any casino anywhere
in the world
1682
01:43:14,730 --> 01:43:15,856
is better than that.
1683
01:43:19,276 --> 01:43:20,861
I have the evidence, but
no longer the resources
1684
01:43:20,861 --> 01:43:23,322
or the gambling spirit
1685
01:43:23,322 --> 01:43:25,366
to appeal the decision
in the Beatrice case.
1686
01:43:27,201 --> 01:43:30,246
I have no money,
no partners,
1687
01:43:30,246 --> 01:43:33,040
and, as far as I can tell,
no clients anymore.
1688
01:43:35,042 --> 01:43:37,503
The Woburn case has become what
it was when it first came to me.
1689
01:43:39,422 --> 01:43:39,915
An orphan.
1690
01:43:42,341 --> 01:43:45,261
I'm forwarding it on to you
in all its unwieldiness,
1691
01:43:45,261 --> 01:43:47,346
even as I know you may
not care to adopt it
1692
01:43:47,346 --> 01:43:48,472
any more than I did at first.
1693
01:43:51,183 --> 01:43:53,352
If you do decide
to take it on,
1694
01:43:53,352 --> 01:43:55,813
I hope you'll be able
to succeed where I failed.
1695
01:43:56,689 --> 01:43:58,107
(TYPEWRITER BELL DINGS)
1696
01:43:58,107 --> 01:44:01,444
If you calculate success
and failure as I always have,
1697
01:44:01,444 --> 01:44:04,363
in dollars and cents divided
neatly into human suffering,
1698
01:44:06,031 --> 01:44:08,451
the arithmetic says,
I failed completely.
1699
01:44:11,036 --> 01:44:12,538
What it doesn't say
1700
01:44:12,538 --> 01:44:16,751
is if I could somehow go back
knowing what I know now,
1701
01:44:16,751 --> 01:44:19,545
knowing where I'd end up if I
got involved with these people,
1702
01:44:20,713 --> 01:44:22,256
knowing all the numbers,
1703
01:44:22,256 --> 01:44:25,050
all the odds,
all the angles,
1704
01:44:31,807 --> 01:44:33,225
I'd do it again.
1705
01:44:48,032 --> 01:44:49,366
(CROWD CHEERING)
1706
01:44:56,123 --> 01:44:57,416
(TURNS UP VOLUME)
1707
01:44:58,083 --> 01:44:59,960
(FOOTSTEPS APPROACHING)
1708
01:44:59,960 --> 01:45:02,129
(DOOR OPENS)
1709
01:45:05,466 --> 01:45:07,843
BASEBALL ANNOUNCER:
There's the pitch. It's low.
1710
01:45:07,843 --> 01:45:09,011
(FOOTSTEPS APPROACHING)
1711
01:45:16,435 --> 01:45:17,011
Mr. Facher?
1712
01:45:23,484 --> 01:45:23,978
(SOFTLY) Sorry.
1713
01:45:40,793 --> 01:45:42,127
(SIGHS)
1714
01:45:50,427 --> 01:45:52,471
(CROWD CHEERING) (ANNOUNCER
CONTINUES INDISTINCTLY)
1715
01:45:57,476 --> 01:45:58,602
(CHEERING LOUDER)
1716
01:46:01,146 --> 01:46:04,316
(DEAFENING CHEERING)
1717
01:46:06,569 --> 01:46:08,529
(SOFTER CHEERING)
1718
01:46:17,997 --> 01:46:20,207
(PHONE RINGING)
1719
01:46:26,422 --> 01:46:27,673
Jesus.
1720
01:46:42,938 --> 01:46:45,065
(CHILDREN CHATTERING)
1721
01:46:49,320 --> 01:46:50,696
(CHATTERING CONTINUES)
1722
01:47:20,142 --> 01:47:22,394
JUDGE: Mr. Schlichtmann?
1723
01:47:28,150 --> 01:47:30,653
(LOUDER)
Mr. Schlichtmann?
1724
01:47:30,653 --> 01:47:32,321
I'm sorry. Yes?
(CLEARS THROAT)
1725
01:47:32,321 --> 01:47:33,989
JUDGE: The purpose
of these questions
1726
01:47:33,989 --> 01:47:36,075
is not to embarrass
or humiliate you,
1727
01:47:36,075 --> 01:47:39,912
but rather to verify the information
you've declared as your assets.
1728
01:47:39,912 --> 01:47:41,246
I understand.
1729
01:47:41,246 --> 01:47:42,623
Because what you're
asking your creditors
1730
01:47:42,623 --> 01:47:43,999
to believe with
this petition is...
1731
01:47:43,999 --> 01:47:46,794
(GRUNTS)
1732
01:47:46,794 --> 01:47:48,921
Well, it's hard
to believe.
1733
01:47:48,921 --> 01:47:50,631
(CHUCKLES) I know.
1734
01:47:50,631 --> 01:47:53,592
That after 17 years of practicing law...
(CLEARS THROAT)
1735
01:47:53,592 --> 01:47:55,844
...all you have
to show for it is
1736
01:47:55,844 --> 01:48:00,224
$14 in a checking account
and a portable radio?
1737
01:48:00,724 --> 01:48:02,184
That's correct.
1738
01:48:08,065 --> 01:48:09,316
Where did it all go?
1739
01:48:10,651 --> 01:48:11,568
The money?
1740
01:48:11,568 --> 01:48:14,154
The money,
the property, the
1741
01:48:14,738 --> 01:48:15,948
personal belongings,
1742
01:48:15,948 --> 01:48:20,661
the things one acquires in one's life,
Mr. Schlichtmann.
1743
01:48:22,621 --> 01:48:27,376
The things by which one
measures one's life.
1744
01:48:30,045 --> 01:48:31,880
(SCOFFS)
1745
01:48:44,143 --> 01:48:45,519
What happened?
1746
01:49:00,242 --> 01:49:00,822
(CHILDREN PLAYING)
1747
01:49:28,312 --> 01:49:31,857
♪ Take me to the river
1748
01:49:32,524 --> 01:49:35,861
♪ Drop me in the water
1749
01:49:36,528 --> 01:49:39,823
♪ Take me to the river
1750
01:49:41,366 --> 01:49:44,953
♪ Drop me in the water
the water
1751
01:49:44,953 --> 01:49:49,041
♪ I don't know why
I love you like I do
1752
01:49:49,041 --> 01:49:53,420
♪ All the trouble
you put me through
1753
01:49:53,420 --> 01:49:56,840
♪ Take my money
my cigarettes
1754
01:49:56,840 --> 01:49:59,218
♪ I haven't seen
the worst of it
1755
01:49:59,218 --> 01:50:02,179
♪ And I wanna know
1756
01:50:02,179 --> 01:50:05,098
♪ Can you tell me
1757
01:50:05,098 --> 01:50:09,311
♪ I love to stay
♪ Oh
1758
01:50:09,311 --> 01:50:11,897
♪ Oh, take me to the river
1759
01:50:11,897 --> 01:50:14,191
♪ Take me to the river
1760
01:50:14,191 --> 01:50:15,984
♪ Drop me in the water
1761
01:50:15,984 --> 01:50:17,236
♪ Drop me in the water
1762
01:50:17,236 --> 01:50:20,030
♪ Dip me in the river
1763
01:50:20,030 --> 01:50:21,323
♪ Take me to the river
1764
01:50:21,323 --> 01:50:23,617
♪ Drop me in the water
1765
01:50:23,617 --> 01:50:26,745
♪ Drop me in the water
the water
1766
01:50:43,262 --> 01:50:46,265
♪ I don't know why you treat me so bad ♪ Ooh, ooh
1767
01:50:46,265 --> 01:50:51,311
♪ Think of all the things that
we could have had ♪ Ooh, ooh
1768
01:50:51,311 --> 01:50:52,771
♪ Love is a notion
1769
01:50:52,771 --> 01:50:55,566
♪ That I can't forget
♪ Ooh, ooh
1770
01:50:55,566 --> 01:50:58,318
♪ My sweet 16
I would never regret
1771
01:50:58,318 --> 01:51:00,070
♪ I wanna know
1772
01:51:00,070 --> 01:51:03,448
♪ Can you tell me
1773
01:51:03,448 --> 01:51:07,578
♪ I love to stay
♪ Stay
1774
01:51:07,578 --> 01:51:10,038
♪ Oh, oh, oh
take me to the river
1775
01:51:10,038 --> 01:51:11,415
♪ Take me to the river
1776
01:51:11,415 --> 01:51:14,251
♪ Drop me in the water
1777
01:51:14,251 --> 01:51:15,544
♪ Drop me in the water
1778
01:51:15,544 --> 01:51:18,297
♪ Dip me in the river
1779
01:51:18,297 --> 01:51:19,548
♪ Take me to the river
1780
01:51:19,548 --> 01:51:22,259
♪ Push me in the water
1781
01:51:22,259 --> 01:51:25,679
♪ Drop me in the water
the water
1782
01:51:26,138 --> 01:51:28,181
♪ Hold me
1783
01:51:28,181 --> 01:51:29,308
♪ Squeeze me
1784
01:51:29,308 --> 01:51:31,310
♪ Love me
1785
01:51:31,310 --> 01:51:32,978
♪ Tease me
1786
01:51:34,855 --> 01:51:36,481
♪ Till I can't
1787
01:51:36,481 --> 01:51:38,692
♪ Till I can't
1788
01:51:38,692 --> 01:51:41,361
♪ I can't take no more of it ♪ No
1789
01:51:41,361 --> 01:51:44,448
♪ The river
♪ Take me to the river
1790
01:51:44,448 --> 01:51:45,449
♪ Drop me in the water
1791
01:51:45,449 --> 01:51:48,493
♪ Drop me in the water
1792
01:51:48,493 --> 01:51:49,494
♪ Dip me in the river
1793
01:51:49,494 --> 01:51:52,414
♪ Take me to the river
1794
01:51:52,414 --> 01:51:54,124
♪ Push me in the water
1795
01:51:54,124 --> 01:51:57,628
♪ Drop me in the water the water ♪ Wow, hey
1796
01:51:59,671 --> 01:52:02,007
Listen, y'all.
Y'all ready?
1797
01:52:05,385 --> 01:52:07,262
Listen, y'all.
1798
01:52:07,262 --> 01:52:09,097
Y'all ready?
1799
01:52:09,097 --> 01:52:10,933
Are you ready, LA?
1800
01:52:10,933 --> 01:52:11,892
Come on!
1801
01:52:14,019 --> 01:52:15,354
♪ Don't know why
1802
01:52:15,354 --> 01:52:17,731
♪ I love her like I do
♪ Ooh
1803
01:52:17,731 --> 01:52:21,860
♪ All the changes that you put me through ♪ Ooh, ooh
1804
01:52:21,860 --> 01:52:25,614
♪ The sixteen candles burning on my wall ♪ Ooh, ooh
1805
01:52:25,614 --> 01:52:28,992
♪ Turning me into the
biggest fool of them all
1806
01:52:28,992 --> 01:52:30,369
♪ I wanna know
1807
01:52:30,369 --> 01:52:33,580
♪ Oh, won't you tell me
1808
01:52:33,580 --> 01:52:36,959
♪ I love to stay
♪ Stay
1809
01:52:39,461 --> 01:52:42,589
♪ Take me to the river
1810
01:52:42,589 --> 01:52:43,548
♪ Drop me in the water
1811
01:52:43,548 --> 01:52:46,593
♪ Drop me in the water
1812
01:52:46,593 --> 01:52:47,552
♪ Dip me in the river
1813
01:52:47,552 --> 01:52:49,638
♪ Take me to the river
1814
01:52:49,638 --> 01:52:51,598
♪ Drop me in the water
1815
01:52:51,598 --> 01:52:54,601
♪ Drop me in the water
1816
01:52:54,601 --> 01:52:56,353
♪ Drop me in the water the water ♪ Wow
1817
01:52:56,353 --> 01:52:57,980
♪ Take me to the river
1818
01:53:00,190 --> 01:53:02,734
♪ Drop me in the water
1819
01:53:04,236 --> 01:53:06,571
♪ Take me to the river
1820
01:53:07,906 --> 01:53:11,702
♪ Drop me in the water
the water
1821
01:53:11,702 --> 01:53:14,913
♪ Take me to the river
1822
01:53:14,913 --> 01:53:15,998
(SCATTING)
1823
01:53:15,998 --> 01:53:18,583
♪ Drop me in the water
1824
01:53:19,626 --> 01:53:22,587
♪ Take me to the river
1825
01:53:23,672 --> 01:53:24,464
♪ Drop me in the water
1826
01:53:24,464 --> 01:53:27,592
♪ Wow, whoo
1827
01:53:27,592 --> 01:53:30,470
♪ Take me to the river
1828
01:53:31,722 --> 01:53:34,516
♪ Drop me in the water
♪ Oh, oh
1829
01:53:34,516 --> 01:53:37,102
♪ Take me to the river
1830
01:53:39,563 --> 01:53:42,566
♪ Drop me in the water
the water
1831
01:53:42,566 --> 01:53:46,069
♪ Take me to the river
1832
01:53:47,487 --> 01:53:50,073
♪ Drop me in the water
1833
01:53:51,408 --> 01:53:55,412
♪ Take me to the river
♪ Oh, oh
1834
01:53:55,412 --> 01:53:59,291
♪ Drop me in the water
the water
1835
01:53:59,291 --> 01:54:03,503
♪ Take me to the river
♪ Oh, oh
1836
01:54:03,503 --> 01:54:06,590
♪ Drop me in the water
the water
1837
01:54:07,257 --> 01:54:09,968
♪ Take me to the river ♪
1838
01:54:12,471 --> 01:54:15,599
(WATER SLOSHING)
1839
01:54:18,018 --> 01:54:19,144
(BIRD CAWING)
1840
01:54:22,481 --> 01:54:24,858
(TRAIN HORN BLOWING)