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First, a set decorated without furniture.
It's clean, like a hospital,
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with crosses on the wall
to convey a sense of mysticism.
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There are only essential objects,
like a sacred ceremony.
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The master's outfit conceals his face.
He hides his face, like Mohammed.
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He is an essential being,
without ego.
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These are the actual movements
of a Japanese tea ceremony.
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All the movements are conscious.
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Alejandro Jodorowsky.
That is still my name.
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I have lost pieces of it. My full name
was Alejandro Jodorowsky Prullansky.
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Prullansky was the name of my mother,
but it was too long.
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It's too bad,
I have lost the name of my mother.
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Only my father's name has prevailed.
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I'm very happy
to record these commentaries
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because "The Holy Mountain"
was a great adventure for me.
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I shot this film in a different life.
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I am not the same man anymore.
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In these commentaries I'll try to resurrect
an Alejandro that no longer exists.
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I will make a concerted effort
to bring him back to the present,
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because I like the young man
that I once was.
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He was trying with all his soul
to make a sacred film.
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He wanted to change mankind
with his films.
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He thought that cinema
was better than LSD.
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He thought his film would be a source
of enlightenment for the audience.
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I am the first actor
who painted his fingernails black.
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Many people in rock later copied it.
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These two girls werert actresses. They
wanted to have a spiritual experience.
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They were searching for their own truth,
their naked truth.
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The inner God that opens in circles
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towards a greater consciousness.
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A heart that opens
towards a greater consciousness.
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The target that the arrow must hit.
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The eye of Buddha.
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The pearl,
the soul that must be polished.
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When the door is opened,
a key is found with the trilogy.
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Now, descend into the world of the dead,
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to the world of the dreamless dreams.
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Descending...
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Butterfly wings
symbolize metamorphosis.
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Back up through the serpent, Kundalini...
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...the pearls of Eros,
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until it arrives at a geometric figure,
which is the interior consciousness.
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He's "The Fool" of the tarot,
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lying on the ground.
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His face is covered with flies,
symbolizing useless thoughts.
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He is urinating on himself.
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He's lost and drunk.
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This is the card that defines him,
the tarot's Fool card.
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The Fool is always represented
by an animal that is his ego.
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The frog is the ego.
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This character
is the divine aspect of The Fool.
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These boys have their genitals
painted green.
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He pulls out the flower
that grows on his hand like a root
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and forms the wound of Christ.
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The boys take him over
a crumbling Egyptian pyramid,
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symbolizing an ancient civilization.
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With a donkey's leg,
he traces a line, a limit.
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They throw stones to wake Christ,
who is on a cross,
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on a "T", the "T" of tarot.
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He finally wakes up
to begin the long initiation
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that will give him wisdom.
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He shoos away his childhood,
his primitivism.
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He uncovers his rage,
his basic instincts.
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He wants to attack
this being that has woken him.
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But he is placated through vice -
"Smoke a little joint with me."
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And that's how he tames him.
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Every character in this film
has an astrological symbol.
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The man with no arms
has a moon in his ear.
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The sleeping man
begins to understand human emotions.
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He finds friendship with himself -
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with his monstrous side.
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They carry on taking their drugs,
happy and drunk, celebrating.
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But we're in a dictatorship,
where students are killed
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and hundreds are crucified,
while the rich speak of religion
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and feel good about themselves.
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I borrowed these carcasses
from a restaurant.
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When I returned them later,
the customers ate them.
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The man who plays the American tourist
is David Kapralik,
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the agent for Sly & the Family Stone,
a famous American singer.
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This American doesn't worry
about the political situation.
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They're raping his wife,
which he finds very amusing.
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It's very entertaining. He films it.
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This refers to the American spirit,
oblivious to what's going on overseas.
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Even today, Americans don't know
what they have done abroad.
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Non-Americans are not beings,
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they're aspects of tourism.
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He gives him a dollar
for having let him film it.
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Our character
is learning the value of money.
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Now he works
in the "Toad and Chameleon" circus,
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which refers to
the conquest of America.
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They hire the character
to advertise their circus.
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He likes money now.
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He's become an accomplice to money.
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He announces this show
made with toads and chameleons,
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which were so hard to dress!
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Their urine was like acid.
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When I put on their armor,
they'd fill up with air,
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then they would blow it out
and try to escape.
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The chameleons
were dressed in Aztec outfits.
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All the symbols are Aztec symbols.
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We had to wait ages until
a chameleon stuck out its tongue
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or move it's eyes.
They wouldn't move.
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Every move they make is a treasure,
I swear.
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Look, here it's going to move.
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I'd say, "Move! Move! Move!"
There he moved, see?
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This headdress is a copy
of Montezuma's, the great Emperor.
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Here Christopher Columbus's
three ships arrive.
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The first person off the ship is a priest
who would convert everyone.
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And then come the Nazis, the Germans.
I used a song by Wagner.
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I chose toads
because they were soft...
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...and chameleons because
they were so immobile, so perfect.
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And here comes the drama.
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The bloodbath begins.
The slaughter, the genocide,
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under the pretext
that the law must be imposed.
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It's a law that is alien to these people.
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It's like imposing democracy
on the Aztecs.
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What use is it to them?
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I filmed this on the street,
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among astounded passers-by.
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Our character was driven by money.
Here's the other one, counting money.
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He starts to suffer,
because he feels like one of the toads.
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The public is satisfied with the show,
but he cries.
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He realizes he has been destroyed.
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Here Christ is for sale.
Religion has become a business.
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Here I start making
references to various films.
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Italian films, for instance,
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those huge productions
that explored biblical themes.
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The tourists still don't understand.
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She wears the Sacred Heart
on her genitals.
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He buys a cross. It's very heavy,
so they give him some help.
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I find those three soldiers and the fat guy
dressed as the Virgin Mary very funny.
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They seduce him
because he looks like Christ.
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They want to reproduce Christ's image.
That's what this scene is about.
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He leaves his friend,
he ends up betraying him.
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In other words,
he betrays a part of himself.
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The grease of the pig symbolizes
the ego. They cover him with it.
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How much better is reality,
compared to an optical effect?
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Here he is breathing through two tubes,
so he's alright.
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This is my own version
of Michelangelo's La Piet�,
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Michelangelo's famous sculpture
in which the Virgin holds the dead Christ.
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Tequila Cuervo. Cuervo means "raven",
which is the primary matter in alchemy.
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The merchants of the temple
are asleep, and he wakes up.
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He will have another moment
of enlightenment.
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He realizes he's been used
to play the role of Christ.
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This is his most profound moment
of insight.
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I dubbed the thief's voice.
It was me who was screaming.
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This is a metaphor of Christ chasing
the merchants out of the temple.
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It's a biblical image.
He destroys his fake egos.
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"This isn't me! This isn't me!"
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And then he finds a sculpture
that really looks like him.
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"This is what I want to be.
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"This is what I want to be.
This is the Christ I want to be."
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The prostitutes in the church.
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One of them has a monkey
- her hairy ego.
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I didn't want to work with actors.
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I wanted to work with real people
playing characters similar to themselves,
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because the first thing I wanted to do
was to help the actors evolve.
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In order to change the world
I had to change the actors in the film.
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I thought, "I will work with real people
and enlighten them."
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I didn't give the actors any directions.
I just told them, "Move around."
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I asked them to move,
but I didn't give them directions
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because they were playing themselves.
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The scene we are about to see
symbolizes perversion,
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the pedophilic perversion
of this world.
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This poor little girl is selling herself.
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The character has gained dignity.
He is searching for himself.
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He finds his apostles, who are whores
and apostles at the same time.
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This one sees the Christ within him
and falls in love.
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She doesn't fall in love with
a human being, but with a spiritual one.
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She sees his spirituality. She heals
his wounds, which are also her wounds.
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She is compassionate. She reveres him
and takes him as her master.
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They arrive at a dance
where men are dancing with men.
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We see soldiers dancing with civilians.
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I already knew back then
that civilians get killed in wars.
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So, I joined soldiers and civilians
together in a dance of love.
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A civilian is a soldier without a uniform.
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A soldier is a civilian wearing a uniform.
They're equals.
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In this scene, a crazy charro
stuck a gun on my chest and said,
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"Stop filming or I'll kill you."
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I went insane and insulted him. And
I said, "If you kill me, I'll kill you."
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I yelled at him,
he got scared and left.
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But I risked my life in this scene.
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That Mexican could have killed me.
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The place where I was
threatened the most was Mexico.
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During the shoot they wanted me dead,
the Church published a book against me.
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The Minister of the Interior
called me and said,
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"The President really likes you,
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"but we've had a lot of complaints.
Don't put uniforms in the film.
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"No priests, no soldiers, no fire fighters.
Take all that out
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"because the Government is being good
to you, but it could become dangerous."
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It was almost a direct threat to my life.
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The next day I left Mexico with all
the footage and came to New York.
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I finished "The Holy Mountain" here.
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Mexico is a fascinating country
because they like black heroes.
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They attack their heroes,
but if you stand your ground,
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later they admire and love you.
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The priest yells at him
in a made-up language.
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"This isn't true, this naked Christ!
Get him away from here."
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He realizes that in that church they have
lost the true meaning of Christianity.
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And he holds communion
by eating the face.
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"The image is me."
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This is another step forward
in his evolution.
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He wants to ascend
towards spiritual development,
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which is symbolized by the sky.
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Yin and Yang.
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The receptive and the active.
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The primitive world ends
when he floats towards the sky.
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Now the second part of the film begins.
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The first part
described the primitive world.
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Now we go towards the mystical world.
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They are all looking up, as if waiting
for something to fall from the sky.
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They are still doing it.
They only eat fish and grapes,
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which are Christian symbols.
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They arrive in the middle
of a crowd of waiting people.
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He wants to see
what the people are waiting for.
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There is a tower with a hole at the top,
and a hook descends.
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On the hook there is a pouch
with a solar symbol.
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The pouch contains gold.
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He gets on the hook and,
driven by his desire for money,
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which is the only thing he knows,
he goes up the tower.
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It is an initiation tower,
a link between Heaven and Earth.
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He is determined to steal.
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He is a thief.
He's going to steal the gold.
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He's taken the bait. Sometimes
our inner God casts bait for us.
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He says, "I'm right here, inside you.
Come look for me. Recognize me.
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"I am you and you are me.
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"Get in touch with your divine side."
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The more I watch this film, the more
I notice the tarot symbols in it.
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The Tower, for example, is card 16.
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The Lovers, the Fool... Almost all
the tarot characters are in this film.
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Now he enters a sort of womb.
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At the end of it
there is a hymen that he must break
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in order to pass through the threshold,
to pass from one world to another.
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He's about to enter the magical world.
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The primitive world
converges with the magical world.
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He thinks it's very tough, but it
doesn't take much to get through.
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It's easy to enter another world
if you set your mind to it.
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You must jump into the void.
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And here we see the rainbow,
a room shaped like the rainbow.
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He walks towards the light,
towards awareness.
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He find's a world of symbols.
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A camel for crossing the desert,
Yin and Yang.
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The soul with words,
the drop that falls on the spirit.
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The Tao, the rod of Jehovah,
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the Kabbalah,
the symbol of Mercury.
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The tattoos on the black woman
are something I came up with myself
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and now I see them everywhere.
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Here's the master of the eneagram -
a system of nine symbols.
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Igneous is the symbol of fire.
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I was impressed
by Frankensteirs shoes,
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so I asked my designer, Micky,
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to come up with shoes that not only
had heels, but high platforms as well.
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The camel did a great job.
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A zoo keeper I knew
lent us the animals.
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We'd take them out at night in a truck
and then we'd return them.
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He's like a fly trapped in a spider's web.
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But instead of killing him, they will
give him true life. He will be reborn.
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The chakras.
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He touches his heart again,
and his mind opens up.
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Now they are going
to eradicate his past.
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That tumor he has is his past
and it will be removed.
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I changed the color of the blood
and made it blue.
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The best thing I could find
to represent the tumor
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was an octopus
that I bought in the market.
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The past has been removed.
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Now the chakras, and he'll be reborn.
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He gives him the weapon.
The knife is useless now.
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It's a cross-shaped knife.
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This is his mirror image.
They have the same voice.
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When I decided to make
"The Holy Mountain",
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Allen Klein introduced me to
The Beatles, including George Harrison.
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George Harrison read the script
and loved it.
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He asked to meet me
in the Plaza Hotel, here in New York,
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to discuss how we would make the film.
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I arrived quite happy, of course.
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He said he was willing to do
the entire film except for one scene.
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- "Which one?"
- "The scene where the thief is nude
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"in a bathroom and the alchemist
washes his anus in front the camera."
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He said, "I'm not willing
to show my anus."
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I said, "You have to.
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"This isn't just a film,
this will change people's minds.
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"You'll provide a wonderful example
of leaving your ego behind."
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"No, I can't", he replied.
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So, I said, "Well, unfortunately,
I cannot take out this scene."
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And he decided not to do it.
I went back to Mexico,
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gave the role to this unknown actor
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and lost millions of dollars.
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But at the time that was me. I didn't
make films to earn money or fame.
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I made them to change mankind.
That's the truth.
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The pelican is one
of the symbols of Christ
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because it is said
that when their babies are hungry
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pelicans peck at their own chest
to feed them with their blood.
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He uses the Tefillin,
which are Jewish sacred objects,
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because alchemy and Kabbalah
have Jewish roots.
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00:32:24,990 --> 00:32:26,821
In psychoanalysis,
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excrement by children
is considered something creative.
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Excrement and gold amount
to the same thing in psychoanalysis.
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According to Freud,
the greatest sin is to be born.
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He said, "When you're born, you create
an ego that wants to be the Universe.
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"It wants to be God, but can't be."
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He thought we were guilty
of being born
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and of having this great ambition
of being everything.
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In a similar way, according to Buddha,
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apart from old age, illness, and death,
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the greatest tragedy is to be born.
To be born is to enter the pain.
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He wanted to free himself from
the chains of being born and reborn.
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Damn! They're both wrong!
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I am against psychoanalysis
and against Buddhism. Stop it!
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It's wonderful to be born!
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It's wonderful to be ill, because
the illness becomes your master.
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It's wonderful to grow old,
because it makes you wiser.
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And it is wonderful to die, because
being immortal would be so boring!
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He will transform
the excrement into gold.
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He will transform this primitive being
into a disciple.
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It is very important to know
that all of our negative traits
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can become positive attributes
and contribute to our development.
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An oval mirror.
He looks at himself and is embarrassed.
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When he breaks the mirror,
he enters a world full of mirrors.
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The pyramid above the cube
is a Masonic image.
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They call it "working the stone" -
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working the ego to get to the essence.
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He can't break the stone because
he's trying too hard, he's ambitious.
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If you are ambitious and desire things,
you will not get them.
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00:35:50,361 --> 00:35:54,263
The master has no ambition.
One hit and the stone opens.
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Just one blow to the top...
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00:36:01,706 --> 00:36:05,005
There lies transparent awareness.
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00:36:09,180 --> 00:36:13,241
We're going to enter
a tarot initiation session.
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00:36:13,351 --> 00:36:15,876
I started studying
the tarot when I was very young,
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when I was 23 years old.
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00:36:20,658 --> 00:36:26,756
I've been studying it and trying
to understand its meaning ever since.
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00:36:26,865 --> 00:36:32,633
The tarot is a visual language,
an encyclopedia of symbols.
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00:36:32,737 --> 00:36:38,004
Once I memorized it, understood it,
and was able to use it,
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00:36:38,109 --> 00:36:43,240
once I became a tarot master,
my perception of the world changed.
333
00:36:43,348 --> 00:36:48,650
I started to perceive the world differently
and to think in symbols.
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00:36:48,753 --> 00:36:53,213
The tarot images we are seeing
were invented by me.
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00:36:53,324 --> 00:36:56,555
I shouldn't have done that.
I should have used the real ones.
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00:36:56,661 --> 00:37:01,997
But back then I was a pretentious artist
and believed I could outdo it.
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00:37:03,601 --> 00:37:08,595
The tarot of Marseille
is a sacred piece of work.
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00:37:08,706 --> 00:37:12,904
The best you can do to understand it
is not to create a new one,
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00:37:13,011 --> 00:37:16,674
but to use the one that already exists.
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00:37:16,781 --> 00:37:19,272
In sacred art, perfection...
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00:37:21,119 --> 00:37:24,577
...is defined like this -
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there's nothing to add
and nothing to remove.
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00:37:28,092 --> 00:37:33,359
When I did "The Holy Mountain"
I didn't quite understand the tarot.
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I tried to create my own tarot.
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00:37:42,807 --> 00:37:46,834
These are the elements of the tarot -
the four components of a human being.
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First of all, the wand,
which symbolizes sex.
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00:37:51,115 --> 00:37:53,106
Creative sex.
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00:38:03,194 --> 00:38:09,258
The sword, for intellect. From sex,
towards the spirit, towards the head.
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00:38:17,609 --> 00:38:20,271
The cup, for the heart.
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00:38:30,188 --> 00:38:36,252
And finally, the gold. The material life
rising until it becomes an aura.
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00:38:39,998 --> 00:38:45,300
The movements
were created by my Zen master,
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Ejo Takata, in Mexico.
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00:38:48,206 --> 00:38:52,802
I also hired a master who worked
in the States. He had created a group
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called Arica Training. He came to Mexico
to initiate me on how to be a master.
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00:38:58,850 --> 00:39:04,311
He came to Mexico, gave me LSD
and guided me for eight hours.
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00:39:04,422 --> 00:39:07,755
Oscar Ichazo, from Arica Training.
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00:39:11,996 --> 00:39:17,764
I had never done drugs before
and thought he'd train me with exercises.
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00:39:17,869 --> 00:39:21,100
He told me, "Don't waste your time.
Just have some LSD."
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00:39:21,205 --> 00:39:23,639
And that's what I did.
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00:39:23,741 --> 00:39:28,007
He was from Bolivia
and came from the Guryev tradition.
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00:39:28,112 --> 00:39:31,912
He taught us the eneagram,
which I used in this film.
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00:39:32,016 --> 00:39:33,745
There are nine characters.
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00:39:45,096 --> 00:39:49,294
There is a white peacock,
a symbol of enlightenment.
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00:40:00,078 --> 00:40:04,777
The characters in my films never
move their mouths when they speak.
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00:40:04,882 --> 00:40:09,512
It's a film,
so why should they move their mouths?
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00:40:16,060 --> 00:40:21,430
This was the only real actor in the film,
although he worked in television.
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00:40:21,532 --> 00:40:27,061
I filmed this in a real factory,
which I converted.
368
00:40:27,171 --> 00:40:32,438
Each character represents
the negative side of their planets.
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This one is Venus, and so he has
many wives and children.
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00:40:37,849 --> 00:40:42,843
He is concerned with beauty
and narcissism.
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00:40:42,954 --> 00:40:48,620
According to the Greeks, the god of love
was a woman, but this one is a man.
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00:40:50,962 --> 00:40:54,659
There is also a political meaning
to all of this.
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00:40:54,766 --> 00:41:01,865
Politics are an element of our world,
but not everything is political.
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00:41:01,973 --> 00:41:06,876
In this world not everything is political.
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00:41:06,978 --> 00:41:13,213
But it's a part I couldn't ignore if I wanted
to give a comprehensive overview.
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00:41:13,317 --> 00:41:16,115
There is a religious side,
a political side,
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00:41:16,220 --> 00:41:21,920
a mystic side, an alchemic side,
an artistic side.
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00:41:22,026 --> 00:41:24,551
All of this exists in life.
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00:41:45,449 --> 00:41:52,048
This is Bobby,
from the San Francisco Coquettes.
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00:41:52,156 --> 00:41:54,647
He was the most beautiful
transvestite I had met.
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00:41:54,759 --> 00:41:57,751
He became a woman later,
he's a transsexual.
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00:42:04,702 --> 00:42:11,665
She becomes the primary lover.
The sperm is made of little hearts.
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00:42:11,776 --> 00:42:17,772
The boss's sperm is made of little
hearts. It's very romantic. I love it.
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00:42:24,121 --> 00:42:27,613
I always wonder
what the purpose of art is.
385
00:42:28,025 --> 00:42:31,256
Are artists the jesters of society?
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00:42:31,896 --> 00:42:37,960
It's a bit like smoking.
People smoke to enjoy themselves,
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00:42:38,069 --> 00:42:40,799
but it is an entertainment that kills.
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00:42:40,905 --> 00:42:43,567
When you go to the cinema
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and are treated
like a twelve-year-old child,
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00:42:48,779 --> 00:42:55,378
you have a good time, but you
come out more stupid each time.
391
00:42:55,486 --> 00:42:58,614
Cinema is making audiences stupid,
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00:42:58,723 --> 00:43:01,123
it's treating them like babies.
393
00:43:03,060 --> 00:43:06,427
I didn't want to do that.
I wanted to wake people up.
394
00:43:06,530 --> 00:43:12,867
I wanted to wake up a society
that has been ill since the Middle Ages.
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00:43:12,970 --> 00:43:19,500
I must make films that heal. Art is good
when it heals, when it's therapeutic.
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00:43:19,610 --> 00:43:24,673
I wanted my films
to have an emotional impact on people,
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to cause an unconscious reaction,
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00:43:27,752 --> 00:43:33,281
so people would leave the theatre
changed, charged with a new energy,
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00:43:33,391 --> 00:43:36,292
with some revelation, with something.
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00:43:36,394 --> 00:43:38,726
It had to be more
than just entertainment,
401
00:43:38,829 --> 00:43:41,889
after which you feel like a stupid child.
402
00:43:45,536 --> 00:43:48,471
We see here a facial
enancement operation,
403
00:43:48,572 --> 00:43:50,733
they are very common these days.
404
00:44:06,590 --> 00:44:09,320
Someday soon
the dead will be able to speak.
405
00:44:09,427 --> 00:44:12,157
We'll give them machines
and they'll move their mouths and say,
406
00:44:12,263 --> 00:44:17,667
"Goodbye, my children."
Or they will bless us, like this one here.
407
00:44:32,483 --> 00:44:35,384
This is a lesbian actress.
408
00:44:43,194 --> 00:44:46,652
Here I address gay issues.
409
00:44:46,764 --> 00:44:50,131
I addressed homosexual problems,
as well as those of war.
410
00:44:50,234 --> 00:44:53,226
Because... this is Mars.
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00:44:55,139 --> 00:44:58,040
There's a French painting
in the background.
412
00:44:58,142 --> 00:45:01,634
A woman grabs another womars nipple.
It has a lesbian touch.
413
00:45:01,746 --> 00:45:04,374
I got closer to the painting and put
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00:45:04,482 --> 00:45:07,918
a flashing light on the nipple.
415
00:45:12,323 --> 00:45:17,784
The music of "The Holy Mountain" was
composed by Don Cherry and myself.
416
00:45:17,895 --> 00:45:22,195
I came across Don Cherry because
I was looking for a spiritual musician.
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00:45:22,299 --> 00:45:27,737
I saw this sort of clown, dressed in a suit
made from bits and pieces.
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00:45:27,838 --> 00:45:33,799
His wife was Swedish,
she was an avant-garde artist,
419
00:45:33,911 --> 00:45:36,846
and all her possessions
came from rubbish bins in New York,
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00:45:36,947 --> 00:45:38,574
from things that people threw away.
421
00:45:38,682 --> 00:45:42,174
The pieces of cloth
came from what people threw away.
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00:45:42,286 --> 00:45:44,379
Because in New York,
when people got rid of something,
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00:45:44,488 --> 00:45:46,285
they would just put it out on the street.
424
00:45:46,390 --> 00:45:49,826
The furniture in their house, the spoons,
everything they had
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00:45:49,927 --> 00:45:51,986
came out of rubbish bins.
It was all free.
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00:45:52,096 --> 00:45:56,192
She'd make outfits out of bits and bobs
for him to wear at his gigs.
427
00:45:56,300 --> 00:45:59,861
He also played a broken trumpet.
428
00:46:02,907 --> 00:46:09,506
I wanted to show homosexual positions,
as seen through a microscope.
429
00:46:34,338 --> 00:46:40,937
I shot this scene in a steel factory
that I was allowed to use.
430
00:46:41,045 --> 00:46:45,243
My budget was low, but I wanted
a grandiose film with grandiose sets.
431
00:46:45,349 --> 00:46:50,412
So, I would film real locations and add
something to make them a bit unreal.
432
00:46:52,857 --> 00:46:55,792
Human ferocity.
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00:46:56,460 --> 00:46:58,928
The Taliban.
434
00:47:28,993 --> 00:47:33,225
And this is war
turning into rock and roll.
435
00:47:33,330 --> 00:47:38,927
I was prophetic because I addressed
the issue of religious wars,
436
00:47:39,036 --> 00:47:45,134
which would take place later on.
This is a war, a religious war.
437
00:47:45,242 --> 00:47:48,678
At first it is just fashion.
Then we see the grenades.
438
00:47:48,779 --> 00:47:52,772
Everything is beautiful.
It is the beautification of crime.
439
00:47:56,120 --> 00:48:00,284
There are the Buddhists,
the Jews,
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00:48:00,391 --> 00:48:05,192
the Christian Catholics.
All of them manufacture weapons.
441
00:48:12,403 --> 00:48:15,998
This is the millionaire.
He was a millionaire in real life.
442
00:48:18,075 --> 00:48:20,873
He has an art collection.
443
00:48:27,618 --> 00:48:33,682
This woman didn't have breasts.
She had had them amputated.
444
00:48:33,791 --> 00:48:36,726
The millionaire's wife
didn't have breasts.
445
00:48:36,827 --> 00:48:39,057
She was not an actress.
446
00:48:39,163 --> 00:48:42,860
If you look closely,
you can see she hasn't got breasts.
447
00:48:56,113 --> 00:49:02,609
The piano rig didn't work very well.
I wanted it to look like a huge condom,
448
00:49:02,720 --> 00:49:05,052
but it doesn't quite work.
449
00:49:16,166 --> 00:49:22,901
The chauffeur was the son of a famous
Hollywood producer called Harry Cohen.
450
00:49:23,007 --> 00:49:28,673
The chauffeur is played
by Harry Cohers son.
451
00:49:37,955 --> 00:49:41,618
This is some American girl
that just happened to be around.
452
00:49:41,725 --> 00:49:44,626
Her name was Re.
453
00:49:44,728 --> 00:49:47,720
I liked this girl very much.
454
00:49:55,072 --> 00:49:57,905
I got her to take drugs through her ear.
455
00:49:58,008 --> 00:50:02,570
Nobody does that.
I invented "ear cocaine".
456
00:50:23,233 --> 00:50:28,034
I think this symbolizes
the poetic girl that sells herself.
457
00:50:41,085 --> 00:50:43,747
Here I intended to poke fun
at modern art.
458
00:50:43,854 --> 00:50:48,848
This is something I invented -
people sculpting with their buttocks.
459
00:50:56,200 --> 00:51:01,570
These sculptures are by a Mexican
artist called Felgu�rez.
460
00:51:01,672 --> 00:51:06,439
I asked him to merge human bodies
with abstract sculptures.
461
00:51:08,078 --> 00:51:11,206
He got angry because his sculptures
don't have much time on screen.
462
00:51:11,315 --> 00:51:14,546
He didn't realize people would see them
for years to come.
463
00:51:14,651 --> 00:51:19,645
"I worked so hard for months and you
only get to see them for a few seconds."
464
00:51:23,327 --> 00:51:29,596
They are still considered modern art.
They'd fit in the Museum of Modern Art.
465
00:51:29,700 --> 00:51:35,400
Nobody has yet merged human bodies,
in an aesthetic fashion,
466
00:51:35,506 --> 00:51:38,236
with abstract sculptures.
467
00:51:54,391 --> 00:51:58,191
The creation of this machine
is based on metaphysical concepts.
468
00:51:58,295 --> 00:52:02,664
I wanted to show a small machine
that would get bigger and bigger,
469
00:52:02,766 --> 00:52:06,930
to give the idea that this machine
was taking over the Universe.
470
00:52:07,037 --> 00:52:10,370
And because of the pleasure
it gives to humans,
471
00:52:10,474 --> 00:52:14,410
the machine itself becomes human
and gives birth to a new machine.
472
00:52:14,511 --> 00:52:19,813
It was abstract art turned into biology.
That was the intention.
473
00:52:19,917 --> 00:52:23,512
I use the same concept
in the art exhibition,
474
00:52:23,620 --> 00:52:27,283
mixing human bodies
with abstract forms.
475
00:52:27,391 --> 00:52:30,417
Humans inside geometric forms.
476
00:52:31,161 --> 00:52:35,257
I wanted to fuse geometry with biology.
477
00:52:35,365 --> 00:52:40,064
This happens nowadays with the robots
that the Japanese are creating.
478
00:52:53,784 --> 00:52:59,154
I think man is meant to create machines
that he will later insert into his body,
479
00:52:59,256 --> 00:53:01,690
and that will transform his life.
480
00:53:01,792 --> 00:53:07,697
In the future, man and machine
will be joined as one being.
481
00:53:07,798 --> 00:53:11,063
That's what I think,
or what I would like to happen.
482
00:53:11,168 --> 00:53:14,968
Machines are dangerous, of course.
483
00:53:15,072 --> 00:53:19,099
They can develop
intelligence and autonomy
484
00:53:19,209 --> 00:53:22,474
and create their own society.
485
00:53:22,579 --> 00:53:26,538
It can happen.
It could happen.
486
00:53:46,069 --> 00:53:52,736
With this machine,
I confronted that fear with humor.
487
00:53:52,843 --> 00:53:56,939
I got the machine to give birth
to a baby machine,
488
00:53:57,047 --> 00:53:59,481
which will eventually grow up,
I suppose.
489
00:54:12,496 --> 00:54:17,160
This is Saturn. It's very important,
because Saturn plays with children,
490
00:54:17,267 --> 00:54:19,701
and then eats them.
491
00:54:28,679 --> 00:54:32,206
We shot this at an actual school.
492
00:54:32,316 --> 00:54:35,615
These children were excited
about the sweets
493
00:54:35,719 --> 00:54:38,813
and the dwarfs dressed up
as Santa Claus.
494
00:54:45,395 --> 00:54:49,126
I had trouble finding that huge man
that's following her. He's a giant.
495
00:54:52,069 --> 00:54:55,527
This is Valerie, my wife at the time.
496
00:54:57,708 --> 00:55:03,374
Here's the elephant with the white
and the black moons - Yin and Yang.
497
00:55:05,916 --> 00:55:10,250
Pachyderms are very powerful
geological symbols.
498
00:55:10,354 --> 00:55:14,256
They symbolize the earth,
the roots I haven't got.
499
00:55:16,059 --> 00:55:21,725
Aside from living in my shoes,
I'd like to live on an elephant.
500
00:55:27,938 --> 00:55:31,271
My country is my shoes.
501
00:55:39,416 --> 00:55:42,544
When I screened "The Holy Mountain"
in Cannes,
502
00:55:42,653 --> 00:55:48,421
the Festival's president required
that I submit the film under a country.
503
00:55:48,525 --> 00:55:53,519
I said that it was Mexican, but Mexico
didn't want to recognize it as theirs.
504
00:55:53,630 --> 00:55:58,966
It was too weird a film,
with no charros. It wasrt Mexican.
505
00:55:59,069 --> 00:56:02,800
That fact affected the chance of winning
an award at the festival.
506
00:56:02,906 --> 00:56:07,673
But I didn't care because I wasrt
playing football. I was making a film.
507
00:56:42,145 --> 00:56:46,081
In this scene there are only old people.
I got them from a retirement home.
508
00:56:46,183 --> 00:56:50,279
It was hard. I had to pick them up
from the home and then take them back.
509
00:56:50,387 --> 00:56:52,821
They'd piss and soil themselves.
510
00:56:57,894 --> 00:57:03,298
This is a toy factory
run by old people.
511
00:57:03,400 --> 00:57:06,460
They make things for children,
bizarrely enough.
512
00:57:06,570 --> 00:57:12,236
The only thing they make is weapons.
All the toys are weapons.
513
00:57:25,155 --> 00:57:30,821
As long as childrers education doesn't
change, the world will not change either.
514
00:57:49,546 --> 00:57:52,640
Those are the heads of state
for every country.
515
00:57:54,451 --> 00:57:59,115
They are getting ready
to corrupt the children.
516
00:58:37,627 --> 00:58:41,961
The Peruvian revolution I talk about here
517
00:58:42,065 --> 00:58:44,499
would take place later on
with The Shining Path.
518
00:58:44,601 --> 00:58:49,265
It was a catastrophe in Peru,
and I foresaw it.
519
00:58:51,208 --> 00:58:56,840
Peru's problems appeared in this film,
long before they happened.
520
00:59:01,318 --> 00:59:06,779
The world is very ill. The world needs
to heal the seas, the rivers,
521
00:59:06,890 --> 00:59:11,850
the environment, society, money.
It must heal itself.
522
00:59:11,962 --> 00:59:14,453
We're all ill.
523
00:59:14,564 --> 00:59:19,763
The artist must react.
The artist must be a healer.
524
00:59:19,870 --> 00:59:23,033
Cinema must be some sort of revelation.
525
00:59:23,139 --> 00:59:28,975
Audiences should not identify
with a hero who is generally a pervert.
526
00:59:29,079 --> 00:59:31,206
James Bond is a pervert.
527
00:59:31,314 --> 00:59:33,646
Superman is a pervert.
528
00:59:33,750 --> 00:59:37,618
Superman!
Imagine him with a woman.
529
00:59:37,721 --> 00:59:41,680
He would have an ejaculation so big
that it would destroy her body,
530
00:59:41,791 --> 00:59:44,817
exit through her brain
and destroy a building!
531
00:59:44,928 --> 00:59:49,558
Superman is a being who can't
make love, because he'd kill his partner.
532
01:00:05,015 --> 01:00:09,076
This boy was a homosexual.
His name was Nicky.
533
01:00:09,185 --> 01:00:13,349
I found him at the Max's City Bar.
534
01:00:14,858 --> 01:00:18,350
He was dressed up as a woman
and he seduced me when he got drunk,
535
01:00:18,461 --> 01:00:22,124
because he took off his wig, threw it
on the table and revealed a bald head.
536
01:00:22,232 --> 01:00:23,893
I thought, "This is fantastic."
537
01:00:24,000 --> 01:00:28,562
He was a great artist and helped me
make the costumes for the film.
538
01:00:35,812 --> 01:00:42,376
This lady...
used to wander the film studios
539
01:00:42,485 --> 01:00:45,045
looking for work as an extra.
540
01:00:45,155 --> 01:00:49,956
I took her in. Everyone made fun of her
because they thought she was mad.
541
01:00:50,060 --> 01:00:56,158
I loved her because she showed up
with green hair and green pubic hair.