1 00:00:53,555 --> 00:00:55,555 # Metal on metal 2 00:00:55,555 --> 00:00:57,655 # Feeling the grind 3 00:00:57,655 --> 00:00:59,555 # Up go the hammers 4 00:00:59,555 --> 00:01:01,855 # A victim to find 5 00:01:01,855 --> 00:01:03,855 # Metal on metal 6 00:01:03,855 --> 00:01:05,855 # Heads start to bang 7 00:01:05,855 --> 00:01:08,855 # Denim and leathers, chains that clang# 8 00:01:08,855 --> 00:01:09,955 Come on, now! 9 00:01:09,955 --> 00:01:13,955 # Keep on rockin' 10 00:01:14,055 --> 00:01:16,955 # To this metal tonight 11 00:01:18,055 --> 00:01:22,055 # Keep on pounding 12 00:01:22,055 --> 00:01:25,254 # Join the heavy metal fight# 13 00:01:25,254 --> 00:01:27,254 I remember the first time I heard Metal On Metal. 14 00:01:27,254 --> 00:01:30,554 You gotta hear it. It's so heavy. It's heavier than anything you've ever heard. 15 00:01:30,554 --> 00:01:33,654 When Anvil first showed up on the scene, it was like, "Fuck! 16 00:01:33,654 --> 00:01:35,654 "This is cool. This is a statement." 17 00:01:35,654 --> 00:01:39,554 Like, literally, these guys are going to turn the music world upside down. 18 00:01:39,554 --> 00:01:41,854 Seeing them was like a challenge to us to say, 19 00:01:41,854 --> 00:01:44,654 "Well, if we can't be better than that, then we should just go home." 20 00:01:44,654 --> 00:01:46,654 # Metal on metal 21 00:01:46,654 --> 00:01:48,654 All the people back from stage! 22 00:01:48,654 --> 00:01:50,454 # Metal on metal 23 00:01:52,554 --> 00:01:56,254 They're a great band, yeah. I always liked Anvil. They got my vote. 24 00:01:56,254 --> 00:01:59,054 If you actually had to choose one band and one album 25 00:01:59,054 --> 00:02:01,054 that really started the whole ball rolling, 26 00:02:01,054 --> 00:02:03,154 it would be Metal On Metal and it would be Anvil. 27 00:02:05,154 --> 00:02:08,354 The minute you heard Anvil, the minute you heard the music, 28 00:02:08,354 --> 00:02:11,554 the minute you saw the pictures, the minute you heard the story, 29 00:02:11,554 --> 00:02:14,654 you could tell that this was the real deal. 30 00:02:23,354 --> 00:02:27,853 Anvil was one of those bands that just put on this really amazing live performance. 31 00:02:27,853 --> 00:02:31,153 Lips, the singer, used to come out with this bondage harness on 32 00:02:31,153 --> 00:02:34,653 and he used to come out with this dildo and play his Flying V. 33 00:02:34,653 --> 00:02:36,453 I mean, it was just complete insanity, 34 00:02:36,453 --> 00:02:38,953 and that's why it was such a huge turn- on for us kids. 35 00:02:38,953 --> 00:02:41,053 It was like something we'd never seen before. 36 00:02:46,353 --> 00:02:50,053 They were thrash, man. They were a fast band. 37 00:02:50,053 --> 00:02:52,553 And you're talking about a year before the big 4, 38 00:02:52,553 --> 00:02:56,053 Slayer, Metallica, Anthrax and Megadeth. 39 00:02:56,053 --> 00:02:58,353 There's a certain sound that comes from that album 40 00:02:58,353 --> 00:03:03,253 that has become one of the basic formulas for any heavy metal record made today. 41 00:03:05,753 --> 00:03:07,653 We were talking about Robb Reiner, like, 42 00:03:07,653 --> 00:03:12,653 he was by far the best metal drummer out there, in terms of his ability. 43 00:03:12,653 --> 00:03:14,553 He was the guy. There was a "holy shit". 44 00:03:14,553 --> 00:03:17,853 They were all good. There wasn't a bad guy in the band. 45 00:03:17,853 --> 00:03:19,453 They were all great at what they did. 46 00:03:19,453 --> 00:03:22,553 They should have made it a lot bigger. I don't really understand the reason why. 47 00:03:22,553 --> 00:03:25,053 Sometimes life deals you a tough deck. 48 00:03:25,053 --> 00:03:29,052 I don't know what happened. Why did they just fall off the radar? 49 00:03:29,052 --> 00:03:30,452 I really have no idea. 50 00:03:30,452 --> 00:03:34,352 You have to be at the right place at the right time. That's the whole thing. 51 00:03:34,352 --> 00:03:37,552 If you're not at the right place at the right time, you will never do it. 52 00:03:37,552 --> 00:03:40,252 I don't know if there was an isolation thing 53 00:03:40,252 --> 00:03:42,952 because of the Canadian element, or whatever, 54 00:03:42,952 --> 00:03:46,952 but something didn't translate all the way up to the next level. 55 00:03:51,852 --> 00:03:55,452 They never really got the respect that they deserved after a while 56 00:03:55,452 --> 00:03:58,452 because, as big as an influence as they had on everybody, 57 00:03:58,452 --> 00:04:02,052 everybody just sort of ripped them off and then, sort of, just left them for dead. 58 00:04:21,852 --> 00:04:27,551 This is where it begins. Basically, it's 7:00. I'm not sure what they're serving up today. 59 00:04:27,551 --> 00:04:32,851 It's probably, I don't know. 60 00:04:32,851 --> 00:04:35,051 From week to week, it slightly changes. 61 00:04:35,051 --> 00:04:37,851 Every day it's a different menu but in different orders. 62 00:04:37,851 --> 00:04:42,651 Let's say one week they have pizza, shepherd's pie, 63 00:04:45,451 --> 00:04:48,651 and then the next week they'll have shepherd's pie, then pizza. 64 00:04:48,651 --> 00:04:52,251 You know, put it out of order, out of the order from the week before. 65 00:04:52,251 --> 00:04:57,351 If they happen to make shepherd's pie or something like that, 66 00:04:57,351 --> 00:05:00,751 this week they'll make meatloaf next week on that day. 67 00:05:00,751 --> 00:05:05,451 They'll rally between meatloaf and shepherd's pie 68 00:05:06,951 --> 00:05:10,851 or meatballs with mashed potatoes. You know, just depends. 69 00:05:23,951 --> 00:05:27,750 - I can't believe it. You're so cynical. - Where's the 20 bucks? 70 00:05:27,750 --> 00:05:30,250 Today is a Monday schedule, which is, 71 00:05:30,250 --> 00:05:33,150 they have to put bananas in all the deliveries. 72 00:05:33,150 --> 00:05:37,150 You see, there's 10 racks, 10 routes, 10 vans, 10 drivers 73 00:05:37,150 --> 00:05:38,850 and I'm one of those 10 drivers. 74 00:05:40,750 --> 00:05:43,450 For all this horrible shit that I've got to go through, 75 00:05:43,450 --> 00:05:48,050 I've got Anvil that gives me my happiness and it works out really good, 76 00:05:48,050 --> 00:05:49,950 because even though Anvil doesn't give me pay, 77 00:05:49,950 --> 00:05:55,450 it gives me the joy and the pleasure that you need to get through life. 78 00:05:56,350 --> 00:06:02,050 The way I look at it, really, is that it could never be worse than what it already is. 79 00:06:02,050 --> 00:06:05,050 If it never got better, that's the way it is. You see what I'm saying? 80 00:06:05,050 --> 00:06:08,950 So, the only way that it could really... It could only get better. 81 00:06:08,950 --> 00:06:12,950 It can't get worse from whatever's going to happen. There's no way. 82 00:06:13,850 --> 00:06:20,550 But, on the other hand, if it did get worse, at least, this time, after all's said and done, 83 00:06:20,550 --> 00:06:23,350 I can say that all has been said and done. 84 00:06:23,350 --> 00:06:25,850 Instead of, "I've left a whole bunch of things undone 85 00:06:25,850 --> 00:06:28,449 "and I wasn't able to do that and I couldn't do this 86 00:06:28,449 --> 00:06:30,949 "and I didn't do that and I should have been this way 87 00:06:30,949 --> 00:06:32,849 "and I could have been that way." 88 00:06:32,849 --> 00:06:38,149 At least, this time, I'll do everything that it possibly takes to get there. 89 00:06:39,749 --> 00:06:43,749 To make the success happen and feel it from internally this time. 90 00:06:55,449 --> 00:06:59,149 - How's it going with the band, man? - Great, man. We're writing our new album. 91 00:07:01,849 --> 00:07:04,949 Fuck, I'd rather be on a stage than doing this, you know. 92 00:07:04,949 --> 00:07:06,249 At the moment, it gives me purpose. 93 00:07:06,249 --> 00:07:10,049 It's part of my psychoactive therapy sessions. 94 00:07:12,049 --> 00:07:15,449 And my doctor says I'm doing well, you know. 95 00:07:16,349 --> 00:07:20,349 So, that's it. But, yeah, give me another stage and another party 96 00:07:21,249 --> 00:07:23,449 and I'm really happy. 97 00:07:33,448 --> 00:07:37,748 I love to entertain. It's part.... It's in my soul. 98 00:07:38,248 --> 00:07:42,248 Nothing is like being in the face of your fans. 99 00:07:43,348 --> 00:07:47,948 There's a moment, and there are actual beautiful moments, 100 00:07:47,948 --> 00:07:49,848 human moments, where you're actually, 101 00:07:49,848 --> 00:07:53,248 you're in the same room as the people that love you. 102 00:07:53,248 --> 00:07:54,348 Yeah! 103 00:07:54,348 --> 00:07:56,148 Hello there, Toronto! 104 00:07:56,148 --> 00:07:57,248 Yeah! 105 00:07:58,748 --> 00:08:01,248 # Keep on rockin' to this metal tonight 106 00:08:02,148 --> 00:08:05,748 # Keep on rockin' Keep on rockin' 107 00:08:06,048 --> 00:08:11,048 Robb, he's come over to my place so many times delivering CDs, T- shirts. 108 00:08:11,648 --> 00:08:13,848 Yeah, Robb's been amazing, for sure. 109 00:08:13,848 --> 00:08:17,548 They wrote a tune after him and me, Cut Loose and Mad Dog. 110 00:08:17,548 --> 00:08:23,648 # I'm just a mad, bad dog 111 00:08:28,048 --> 00:08:31,847 I've gone to probably 200 or 300 shows of Anvil. 112 00:08:31,847 --> 00:08:34,947 We've been to Oshawa, Sudbury, we used to travel with them. 113 00:08:34,947 --> 00:08:38,147 It's an outlet, why not? People do other bad things in life. 114 00:08:38,147 --> 00:08:39,447 It's a good outlet, metal. 115 00:08:43,747 --> 00:08:46,047 Yeah, to my dying day, the metal for sure. 116 00:08:46,047 --> 00:08:50,047 "I'd rather be a king below than a servant above. 117 00:08:50,047 --> 00:08:54,447 "I'd rather be free and hate than a prisoner of love. 118 00:08:54,447 --> 00:09:00,047 "Six, six, oh, six. Six." 119 00:09:06,247 --> 00:09:09,047 This is going to be the best birthday I've ever had. 120 00:09:09,047 --> 00:09:10,447 Something like that. 121 00:09:20,447 --> 00:09:22,847 The tunes that we have for the upcoming album 122 00:09:22,847 --> 00:09:24,847 are fucking, like, unbelievable. 123 00:09:24,847 --> 00:09:29,147 The feels, the riffs, the grooves, the lyrics, pure, fucking magic. 124 00:09:33,846 --> 00:09:36,446 Most people only know us for our first 3 albums, 125 00:09:36,446 --> 00:09:38,646 Hard 'N' Heavy, Metal On Metal and Forged In Fire. 126 00:09:38,646 --> 00:09:40,346 But there's a lot of other stuff, 127 00:09:40,346 --> 00:09:42,846 like Backwaxed, Strength Of Steel, Pound For Pound, 128 00:09:42,846 --> 00:09:45,746 Live Past Or Present, Worth The Weight, Plugged In Permanent, 129 00:09:45,746 --> 00:09:48,646 Absolutely No Alternative, Speed Of Sound, Plenty Of Power, 130 00:09:48,646 --> 00:09:50,946 Still Going Strong and Back To Basics. 131 00:09:50,946 --> 00:09:56,046 Me, Lips, we put this band together about 5 years ago, 132 00:09:56,346 --> 00:09:59,646 but we've been playing together in a band since we were 15, 16 years old. 133 00:09:59,646 --> 00:10:01,346 - This is where we learnt how to play. - Yeah. 134 00:10:01,346 --> 00:10:06,046 Yeah, this is a lot of the beginnings of our whole friendship, 135 00:10:06,346 --> 00:10:09,246 our relationship with the band and life. It all happened here. 136 00:10:09,246 --> 00:10:13,046 Every day on the way home from school I hear this blasting music 137 00:10:13,046 --> 00:10:14,946 coming from that window right there. 138 00:10:14,946 --> 00:10:18,946 Whoever's playing to this music is playing tight. It's a drummer. 139 00:10:19,046 --> 00:10:21,746 It's fucking, like, 6 shits coming out of their eyes. 140 00:10:21,746 --> 00:10:24,846 Anyway, I meet this guy in my biology class and he goes, 141 00:10:24,846 --> 00:10:26,946 "Hey, man, I'm going to get this guy, Robb Reiner. 142 00:10:26,946 --> 00:10:29,646 "He lives over at the corner of the Almans'." 143 00:10:29,646 --> 00:10:33,645 All I could see was this speaker that was sitting in the window 144 00:10:33,645 --> 00:10:40,445 and heavy music like either Sabbath or Grand Funk or Cactus, 145 00:10:40,445 --> 00:10:42,845 a lot of Cactus. The guy really liked Cactus. And I go... 146 00:10:46,345 --> 00:10:48,245 "Who could possibly like Cactus?" 147 00:10:48,245 --> 00:10:50,745 We had one that we wrote called The Lola Song 148 00:10:50,745 --> 00:10:53,045 and it had nothing to do with the song by The Kinks. 149 00:10:53,045 --> 00:10:57,645 The Lolas were a little frozen kind of treat and it was called the Lola 150 00:10:57,645 --> 00:10:59,545 and we liked them so much we wrote a song about them. 151 00:10:59,545 --> 00:11:03,245 We were just innocent kids. We didn't really know what we were doing. 152 00:11:03,245 --> 00:11:05,345 We just started rocking out and making this music. 153 00:11:11,145 --> 00:11:14,045 # Out in the school yard Little peaches play 154 00:11:14,045 --> 00:11:16,545 # Rubbing their beaves Got a lot to say 155 00:11:18,645 --> 00:11:19,945 Today on Shirley, 156 00:11:19,945 --> 00:11:23,945 "Sex, drugs and rock 'n' roll, what's it doing to our kids?" 157 00:11:24,245 --> 00:11:31,145 Now, let me read some lyrics from a song called Toe Jam by the group Anvil. 158 00:11:31,145 --> 00:11:34,744 "Dig a little deeper, hip your partner, make her shout, 159 00:11:34,744 --> 00:11:39,644 "back to front, side to side, tip your cap and come inside, 160 00:11:40,144 --> 00:11:45,644 "down with her fishnets, up with her skirt, dig a little deeper, till you hit pay dirt." 161 00:11:49,444 --> 00:11:54,544 As soon as he met Robb, Robb is a drummer, 162 00:11:55,444 --> 00:11:59,444 and Steven wouldn't continue school. 163 00:12:00,244 --> 00:12:03,444 He wasn't gonna... He gave up school. 164 00:12:04,044 --> 00:12:07,644 Old Pancer's, home of the corned beef sandwich. 165 00:12:08,844 --> 00:12:10,644 I think the first song we ever wrote 166 00:12:10,644 --> 00:12:12,044 - was called Thumb Hang. - Thumb Hang. Yeah. 167 00:12:12,044 --> 00:12:16,044 We were trying to write a song about the Spanish Inquisition. 168 00:12:16,244 --> 00:12:20,244 We learnt about it in history class. They would hang people up by their thumbs 169 00:12:20,444 --> 00:12:23,544 if they didn't take on Catholicism. 170 00:12:24,044 --> 00:12:28,844 So, you know, I figured, "Hey, there's a cool subject. Thumb hang." 171 00:12:35,843 --> 00:12:37,843 # Thumbs will twist 172 00:12:39,143 --> 00:12:41,243 # Can you resist? 173 00:12:45,043 --> 00:12:46,743 # Thumb hang 174 00:12:47,043 --> 00:12:49,743 Fuck, we should be doing that again. 175 00:12:49,743 --> 00:12:51,443 - They're like brothers. - They're like brothers. 176 00:12:51,443 --> 00:12:52,943 I mean, it would be... 177 00:12:52,943 --> 00:12:56,443 I think it would be like splitting Siamese twins, really. 178 00:12:56,443 --> 00:12:59,043 They've just always been very tight. 179 00:12:59,043 --> 00:13:01,943 What, they've been around for almost 30 years now. 180 00:13:01,943 --> 00:13:05,843 And it's just amazing how they're going to keep on going and going and going. 181 00:13:05,843 --> 00:13:06,843 They're never going to stop. 182 00:13:07,243 --> 00:13:10,443 You have to structure your life around it, I guess. 183 00:13:10,443 --> 00:13:13,643 You know, we changed our wedding date for it. 184 00:13:13,643 --> 00:13:17,543 Averey was born the Friday before he went away on the tour, 185 00:13:17,543 --> 00:13:19,843 we kind of got him started. 186 00:13:19,843 --> 00:13:22,643 You know, "Gotta have this baby now, he's leaving." 187 00:13:24,943 --> 00:13:28,943 - What does your dad do for a living? - He's in a band. 188 00:13:29,643 --> 00:13:32,043 - What's the name of the band? - Anvil. 189 00:13:32,043 --> 00:13:34,742 - What do you think of them? - Pretty good. 190 00:13:37,642 --> 00:13:42,442 The band has been around so long, it's not like a band that just got reunited. 191 00:13:42,442 --> 00:13:45,742 We're in shape, we're in playing shape, we're in writing shape. 192 00:13:45,742 --> 00:13:49,742 It's not like we let it fall apart and then we're trying to rebuild it. 193 00:13:49,842 --> 00:13:52,742 We've been building it all along and working at it. 194 00:13:52,742 --> 00:13:56,642 I think it's probably got more potential now than it ever has. 195 00:13:56,642 --> 00:14:00,642 It's been an honour and a thrill to be in this band for 10 years. 196 00:14:01,042 --> 00:14:05,042 And there was moments when I wondered, "Is this the right place for me, or is this... 197 00:14:05,642 --> 00:14:09,642 "Am I... Are there other opportunities for me out there?" 198 00:14:09,642 --> 00:14:13,142 But those thoughts don't last long when I start thinking of, 199 00:14:13,142 --> 00:14:15,242 "Yeah, I'm in Anvil." 200 00:14:15,242 --> 00:14:19,242 I was a big Anvil fan for many years growing up as a teenager. 201 00:14:19,442 --> 00:14:23,942 So sometimes I still can't believe, it's like, "Wow, I'm in Anvil! I can't believe it." 202 00:14:23,942 --> 00:14:25,042 You know? 203 00:14:27,142 --> 00:14:30,542 Ivan met this girl over in Europe by the name of Tiziana. 204 00:14:30,542 --> 00:14:33,842 She's actually an agent and she's been e- mailing me. 205 00:14:33,842 --> 00:14:36,241 It looks like she's been a big fan of the band 206 00:14:36,241 --> 00:14:40,241 and she's basically telling me that she has a passion and love for metal music 207 00:14:40,541 --> 00:14:44,241 and I guess we're part of that. It looks like she's booked us a tour. 208 00:14:45,341 --> 00:14:47,841 Wow, look at this. Italy, Switzerland, 209 00:14:47,841 --> 00:14:53,741 Austria, France, England, Belgium, Germany. 1,500 euro a fucking show, man. 210 00:14:53,741 --> 00:14:57,441 Holy shit, this is going to be the biggest tour I've done in 20 years. 211 00:14:57,441 --> 00:15:01,041 When I sit at home or work at Choice Children's Catering, 212 00:15:01,041 --> 00:15:03,341 they don't know that my band even exists. 213 00:15:03,341 --> 00:15:07,841 But if I happen to play, you know, a show someplace in Europe 214 00:15:07,841 --> 00:15:10,841 and one of the labels goes, "Hey, man, that band Anvil 215 00:15:10,841 --> 00:15:13,541 "that we heard about, you know, 20 years ago, they're playing. 216 00:15:13,541 --> 00:15:15,841 "Let's go see them." That's all I need. 217 00:15:36,840 --> 00:15:40,140 Heavy metal is a really serious culture in Europe. 218 00:15:40,140 --> 00:15:43,340 This is the stronghold. That's why it will never, ever go away. 219 00:15:45,840 --> 00:15:48,940 The Sweden Rock Festival, here we are. 220 00:15:50,440 --> 00:15:53,040 Ready to rock, man. Rock and roll. 221 00:15:56,040 --> 00:15:58,840 Swedish Rock Festival presents to you Anvil! 222 00:16:06,240 --> 00:16:07,640 Anvil! 223 00:16:08,140 --> 00:16:12,440 The foundation of the business comes down to the fans 224 00:16:12,440 --> 00:16:14,040 and the people that love your band. 225 00:16:14,040 --> 00:16:18,340 And, without those people, you really are nowhere. 226 00:16:38,939 --> 00:16:42,639 We're the matinee act and we kicked fucking ass. 227 00:16:43,239 --> 00:16:49,739 "Hello, this is Lips from the band Anvil, and you're listening to Rock Station Kiel, 228 00:16:49,739 --> 00:16:51,539 "you know it." 229 00:16:51,539 --> 00:16:52,639 Okay. 230 00:16:54,839 --> 00:16:57,939 And once again, please, I turn it off. 231 00:16:59,439 --> 00:17:01,339 - I'm so sorry. - Practise. 232 00:17:01,339 --> 00:17:03,839 - Yeah, okay, sorry. Again. - "Hello, everybody... 233 00:17:04,439 --> 00:17:06,539 Oh, you've got the same trousers on as... 234 00:17:06,539 --> 00:17:09,939 No, actually, I have got the same trousers... They look similar. 235 00:17:09,939 --> 00:17:13,639 Michael is like the Beethoven of lead guitar players, man. 236 00:17:14,639 --> 00:17:20,039 This is where it originates from. This is where half my style comes from. 237 00:17:20,039 --> 00:17:23,539 Do you remember that? I played with the women's vibrator? 238 00:17:25,639 --> 00:17:28,739 - Anvil, Anvil. - I love this guy, man. 239 00:17:28,739 --> 00:17:30,739 You're a good man. You're a good man. 240 00:17:30,739 --> 00:17:34,139 The first time I'd seen you was across the street from where I lived, 241 00:17:34,139 --> 00:17:36,039 when you played in Toronto. 242 00:17:36,039 --> 00:17:39,538 - You went to a videogame place. - Okay. 243 00:17:39,538 --> 00:17:41,438 It was right across the street from where I lived... 244 00:17:41,438 --> 00:17:43,738 - Okay. - ...and that's the first place I saw you 245 00:17:43,738 --> 00:17:47,038 and you were coming on to this girl by the name of Jan Wolfman 246 00:17:47,038 --> 00:17:50,038 and we've written a song called Tall And Teasin'. 247 00:17:50,038 --> 00:17:53,638 She was a really, really tall chick with long black hair. 248 00:17:53,638 --> 00:17:54,938 - I don't remember. - I know. You don't remember. 249 00:17:57,138 --> 00:17:58,538 - I'll see you later. - Okay. 250 00:17:58,538 --> 00:18:01,038 Can you fucking believe the people we're meeting? 251 00:18:01,838 --> 00:18:03,038 Mr Lips, nice to see you. 252 00:18:03,038 --> 00:18:04,938 - How are you, man? - Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm fine. 253 00:18:04,938 --> 00:18:07,238 So you came to see us at Super Rock? 254 00:18:07,238 --> 00:18:09,238 - Yeah, absolutely. - Really, yeah? 255 00:18:09,238 --> 00:18:12,138 - I was a high school student, yeah. - Oh, really? 256 00:18:12,138 --> 00:18:15,438 Yeah. You've got many fans in Japan, yeah. 257 00:18:15,438 --> 00:18:20,338 But if you have a chance to go to Japan, maybe next time, then you should do it. 258 00:18:20,338 --> 00:18:22,738 - What, do it in Japan? - Yeah, of course. 259 00:18:43,837 --> 00:18:47,437 It's great to see you, man. It's really great to see you. Really. 260 00:18:48,037 --> 00:18:51,537 Here we are backstage trying to talk to Ted Nugent. 261 00:18:52,637 --> 00:18:56,637 And...pretty interestingly... 262 00:18:56,937 --> 00:19:00,737 Actually, I think that... That's Tommy Aldridge right there. 263 00:19:00,737 --> 00:19:02,637 Tommy! Tommy! 264 00:19:31,737 --> 00:19:34,437 Yeah, well, that certainly is a problem. I can see it already. 265 00:20:13,836 --> 00:20:18,236 Until we become a real commodity, this is what you deal with. 266 00:21:05,035 --> 00:21:08,235 # Oy, oy, oy, Moishe laid a guy 267 00:21:08,235 --> 00:21:11,435 # What ever happened to my little Jewish boy? 268 00:21:11,435 --> 00:21:15,035 # I send him to school to learn and read and write 269 00:21:15,035 --> 00:21:17,635 # Now he comes back schtupping shiksas every night 270 00:21:22,635 --> 00:21:27,135 Would you please ask somebody who is just walking around for the way, 271 00:21:27,135 --> 00:21:33,835 because you need to reach Smichov. Smichov, Prague 5. 272 00:21:33,835 --> 00:21:36,235 I'll wait on the phone and please ask them, 273 00:21:36,235 --> 00:21:40,934 so I can talk to him in Czech and try to help you to find a way. 274 00:21:47,034 --> 00:21:48,934 - Is that them? - It has to be... 275 00:21:48,934 --> 00:21:50,434 - Yeah, it has to be. 276 00:21:50,434 --> 00:21:55,434 Halle- fucking- lujah, man! This is what the fuck it takes to get to fucking Prague? 277 00:21:55,434 --> 00:21:59,234 We've been circling the fucking streets for 2 hours. Fuck. 278 00:22:00,334 --> 00:22:03,434 The worst thing about it is, I have to throw all my fucking drugs away 279 00:22:03,434 --> 00:22:04,534 for nothing. 280 00:22:04,534 --> 00:22:08,034 There was, you know, all the dogs. What fucking dogs? 281 00:22:08,034 --> 00:22:10,734 There was never going to be any fucking dogs, man. 282 00:22:14,334 --> 00:22:15,734 Sorry for being late, 283 00:22:15,734 --> 00:22:19,234 but you've got a really complicated city that we can't read the signs. 284 00:22:36,034 --> 00:22:38,834 Anvil! Anvil! Very good! 285 00:22:38,834 --> 00:22:42,833 Anvil! Anvil! Very good! Very good! 286 00:22:43,033 --> 00:22:45,233 Anvil! Anvil! 287 00:22:48,833 --> 00:22:52,633 - Very good! - Very good! Anvil! Anvil! 288 00:22:55,033 --> 00:22:57,933 See, I'm my own roadie. I ain't a rock star yet. 289 00:23:12,833 --> 00:23:14,833 What's going on here, buddy? 290 00:23:20,533 --> 00:23:21,733 That's nice. 291 00:23:21,733 --> 00:23:24,733 I guess he figures if he gives me a bit of goulash, I'll forget about it. 292 00:23:26,633 --> 00:23:28,233 No. We're not getting fucking paid. 293 00:23:28,233 --> 00:23:29,933 Where's that fucking club owner? 294 00:23:29,933 --> 00:23:31,533 You are too late. 295 00:23:31,533 --> 00:23:34,833 If I was too late, I wouldn't have fucking played, pal. 296 00:23:34,833 --> 00:23:36,733 You're going to fucking pay me. 297 00:23:36,733 --> 00:23:40,633 Most of people goes away. Most of people goes away. 298 00:23:40,633 --> 00:23:42,332 - I did my full set. - Sorry. 299 00:23:42,332 --> 00:23:45,032 I did my work. I want to get paid. 300 00:23:47,732 --> 00:23:49,532 You should have told us you weren't paying us 301 00:23:49,532 --> 00:23:51,632 before we fucking played, then we wouldn't have fucking played. 302 00:23:51,632 --> 00:23:54,632 You fucking piece of shit. You fucking pay me. I fucking worked. 303 00:23:54,632 --> 00:23:56,632 I'm going to kick your fucking face in. 304 00:23:56,632 --> 00:23:58,632 - Are you crazy, man? - Yeah, I am fucking crazy. 305 00:23:58,632 --> 00:24:01,232 I just worked my ass off and you won't fucking pay me. 306 00:24:01,232 --> 00:24:02,632 You're a motherfucker. 307 00:24:02,632 --> 00:24:03,932 I'll just give you my business card. 308 00:24:03,932 --> 00:24:06,432 - I'm a lawyer. - Okay, you're a lawyer. 309 00:24:06,432 --> 00:24:11,132 You played in front of fuck- all people here tonight. You were screwed. 310 00:24:11,132 --> 00:24:15,132 You have a shit manager. Listen, let's be honest about this. 311 00:24:15,132 --> 00:24:16,332 Right. 312 00:24:16,332 --> 00:24:20,832 You, Anvil, should be playing in front of, I don't know, 1,000 minimum people 313 00:24:20,832 --> 00:24:23,932 every night in Europe. That's my opinion. 314 00:24:23,932 --> 00:24:25,932 - Yeah, you're probably right. - Given your reputation... 315 00:24:25,932 --> 00:24:29,832 Given your reputation, you should be playing in front of 1,000 people every night, 316 00:24:29,832 --> 00:24:31,432 and you are not. 317 00:24:32,032 --> 00:24:34,932 Now you gotta ask yourself why you're not doing that. 318 00:24:34,932 --> 00:24:38,732 - I've been asking myself that for 20 years. - Because you've got a shit manager. 319 00:24:38,732 --> 00:24:42,731 I could answer that in one word, 2 words, 3 words. 320 00:24:42,831 --> 00:24:44,631 - Go ahead. - We haven't got good management. 321 00:24:52,031 --> 00:24:53,231 Bye! 322 00:24:59,931 --> 00:25:03,931 We are here from... In perfect time, in perfect time! 323 00:25:04,131 --> 00:25:07,231 If I miss the train I have to pay double. 324 00:25:09,531 --> 00:25:11,731 I was so, so, so angry. 325 00:25:11,731 --> 00:25:16,231 Okay, listen. You call MasterCard, cancel your payment. 326 00:25:16,631 --> 00:25:18,431 Listen, they do that. 327 00:25:21,831 --> 00:25:24,931 For to go, for to back. For to back is, again, invalid. 328 00:25:25,331 --> 00:25:27,131 For to go now, change it. 329 00:25:37,231 --> 00:25:42,131 The one thing that's a really good thing, man, is that we found those sleeping bags. 330 00:26:03,830 --> 00:26:08,430 It's not you! It's you that will play! You understand me? 331 00:26:09,730 --> 00:26:12,630 Because the promoter ask you if you will play! 332 00:26:12,630 --> 00:26:15,030 And you should answer, no! 333 00:26:16,430 --> 00:26:19,230 - Stop! - Please! Today is a very big day! 334 00:26:21,030 --> 00:26:23,330 - We're not playing tonight? - No. 335 00:26:25,030 --> 00:26:26,530 What happened? 336 00:26:27,730 --> 00:26:30,830 - Whatever. - I know nothing. I don't know anything. 337 00:26:30,830 --> 00:26:34,030 I'm not getting in a pissing contest over this, okay? 338 00:26:39,630 --> 00:26:41,630 "Lips, Lips, how come this, how come that?" 339 00:26:41,630 --> 00:26:44,429 I don't fucking know! I'm just a fucking guy, man. 340 00:26:44,429 --> 00:26:46,629 I just wanted to come and do a tour. 341 00:26:46,629 --> 00:26:51,929 I did everything I fucking could to make this as pleasant as possible 342 00:26:51,929 --> 00:26:57,429 and it's been nothing but a nightmare. The whole thing, from top to bottom. 343 00:26:57,429 --> 00:27:01,429 No one listens to me when I say things. You can imagine how I feel. 344 00:27:06,029 --> 00:27:07,929 I'm doing everything right and I'm getting shit on. 345 00:27:07,929 --> 00:27:12,729 He's going home. He's done with the band. Fucking, he wants to sue you civilly, and... 346 00:27:12,729 --> 00:27:13,929 - For what? - I don't know. 347 00:27:13,929 --> 00:27:16,829 It's so unfair to Anvil. It's so unfair to Anvil, man. 348 00:27:16,829 --> 00:27:20,529 How much more can one person put their fucking love and dedication into something? 349 00:27:20,529 --> 00:27:22,629 How much more can one person go? 350 00:27:22,629 --> 00:27:26,429 This fucking band, man, I need it to rise, man. 351 00:27:26,429 --> 00:27:30,029 Robb, I don't want to fight with you. Do you understand me? 352 00:27:30,029 --> 00:27:33,429 Look at me. I don't want to fucking fight with you, man. 353 00:27:33,429 --> 00:27:34,829 - Okay? - But you did. 354 00:27:34,829 --> 00:27:38,129 I know and we always end up like that. What for? 355 00:27:38,129 --> 00:27:42,029 Only to end up where we were the day before, everything's okay. 356 00:27:42,029 --> 00:27:46,028 Okay? So let's just go play and we get on with it. 357 00:27:46,028 --> 00:27:48,528 Anyway, the place is jam- fucking- packed. 358 00:28:10,528 --> 00:28:14,228 It's so unprofessional, what we are going through right now. 359 00:28:14,228 --> 00:28:16,128 It's fucking... It's sad. 360 00:28:31,928 --> 00:28:33,828 Welcome to Romania. 361 00:28:35,528 --> 00:28:37,328 Tomorrow, it's cool. 362 00:28:39,728 --> 00:28:43,728 Tiziana's told us there's going to be at least 5,000 to 10,000 people there. 363 00:28:44,028 --> 00:28:46,027 It's a huge, huge arena. 364 00:28:46,027 --> 00:28:49,527 Even the mayor of Transylvania is supposed to show up. 365 00:28:56,327 --> 00:28:57,727 Anvil! 366 00:29:03,627 --> 00:29:07,527 Look at this. It's the biggest fucking gig and the littlest amp. 367 00:29:18,227 --> 00:29:21,227 - Anvil very good. - Father and son. 368 00:29:21,227 --> 00:29:23,527 I'm proud of this father, he is my dad. 369 00:29:54,526 --> 00:30:00,126 Hello, people! Behold the gods of Canadian bands, 370 00:30:00,126 --> 00:30:02,626 Toronto's own Anvil! 371 00:30:41,126 --> 00:30:42,826 - Max. Max. - Max? 372 00:30:49,725 --> 00:30:51,125 - Yes. - Why? 373 00:30:51,525 --> 00:30:58,325 They never pay me. 99.9% of bands never get paid. 374 00:30:59,425 --> 00:31:02,325 That's the truth. I work every day just like everybody else. 375 00:31:02,325 --> 00:31:06,825 I'm a regular person, you know? Right now, I'm on vacation. 376 00:31:07,325 --> 00:31:10,625 I leave my job and I come and I rock and roll. 377 00:31:10,625 --> 00:31:13,925 And then I go back, and it's back to the same old bullshit. 378 00:31:32,625 --> 00:31:36,525 We worked for 5 weeks, got paid nothing. 379 00:31:37,425 --> 00:31:40,025 Not even one record company showed up. 380 00:31:46,025 --> 00:31:48,424 - Have a good weekend? - Good, thanks. 381 00:31:48,424 --> 00:31:50,524 - Okay, that's good. - How about you? 382 00:31:50,524 --> 00:31:53,124 Not too bad. A bit busy. 383 00:31:53,124 --> 00:31:56,224 Sometimes things go wrong. 384 00:31:56,224 --> 00:31:58,524 Things went drastically wrong. 385 00:31:58,524 --> 00:32:02,124 But, at least, there was a tour for it to go wrong on. 386 00:32:02,924 --> 00:32:06,924 Tiziana was nothing but help, her heart was in the right place 387 00:32:06,924 --> 00:32:10,824 and when she said she was going to do it with passion and love, 388 00:32:10,824 --> 00:32:14,124 that's precisely what she did. She was good to her word. 389 00:32:14,124 --> 00:32:17,124 I'm grateful. I don't regret a minute of it. 390 00:32:27,424 --> 00:32:31,024 By the power invested in me by the province of Ontario, 391 00:32:31,024 --> 00:32:34,724 it is my honour and delight to declare you henceforth 392 00:32:34,724 --> 00:32:38,024 to be husband and wife. And you may kiss your bride. 393 00:32:41,524 --> 00:32:43,024 See, guitar picks. 394 00:32:43,024 --> 00:32:44,324 - Yeah. - Very neat. 395 00:32:44,324 --> 00:32:46,824 All right, rock 'n' roll, baby. 396 00:33:23,823 --> 00:33:27,423 So what's he given up over the years in order to do what he wants to do? 397 00:33:27,423 --> 00:33:30,723 Well, making money. He gave that up. 398 00:33:32,523 --> 00:33:36,523 And that was a little difficult for me to accept 399 00:33:36,623 --> 00:33:39,323 because I'd like my children to go to school 400 00:33:39,323 --> 00:33:41,323 and make something of themselves. 401 00:33:43,323 --> 00:33:46,023 Typical Jewish immigrant parents. 402 00:33:46,023 --> 00:33:49,423 Anyone that goes into the arts generally does not succeed. 403 00:33:49,423 --> 00:33:51,322 It's a tough life and they didn't really want that for him. 404 00:33:51,322 --> 00:33:56,722 But you also couldn't understand his choice. You also were not... 405 00:33:58,022 --> 00:34:02,022 How could I... I mean, it was a tough life that he chose for himself. 406 00:34:02,222 --> 00:34:03,722 He wasn't going to be a tailor. 407 00:34:03,722 --> 00:34:05,422 He wasn't going to go into the menswear business. 408 00:34:05,422 --> 00:34:07,822 Steven is not a businessman. He's an artist. 409 00:34:07,822 --> 00:34:11,022 That's who he is. He didn't want to live in mediocrity. 410 00:34:11,022 --> 00:34:16,322 He'd rather live in poverty and have nothing. He wanted to prove my father wrong, I think, 411 00:34:16,322 --> 00:34:21,222 and he's been searching for that validation since he's 10 years old. 412 00:34:21,222 --> 00:34:25,722 That this effort that he's put forth to become a great musician 413 00:34:25,722 --> 00:34:27,622 would become worth it. 414 00:34:29,622 --> 00:34:35,622 They just didn't understand. He deserved the same support that I got. 415 00:34:35,622 --> 00:34:41,322 My parents were amazing. My father and mother loved the fact 416 00:34:41,322 --> 00:34:44,422 that I got interested in something and I excelled at it very, very well. 417 00:34:44,422 --> 00:34:46,522 They saw the progress, so they were just very supportive. 418 00:34:46,922 --> 00:34:49,222 He kept saying to my dad, I believe, 419 00:34:49,222 --> 00:34:52,821 "I really want to play the drums. I really love the drums, dah, dah, dah." 420 00:34:52,821 --> 00:34:57,821 And it was shortly before Christmas, I believe, and there it was. 421 00:34:57,821 --> 00:35:01,721 Christmas, his first set of drums. That's all it's been since. 422 00:35:01,721 --> 00:35:05,221 Look at the blur of that stick, man. I'm burning. 423 00:35:05,221 --> 00:35:09,221 I'm smiling here, and I usually don't smile. I was happy, man. 424 00:35:09,421 --> 00:35:12,821 It was like I found something that was going to work. 425 00:35:14,421 --> 00:35:17,421 Robb's father was in Auschwitz. 426 00:35:18,621 --> 00:35:21,821 He was young. He was 15 years old at that time. 427 00:35:23,521 --> 00:35:27,921 He did anything and everything in the camp 428 00:35:28,521 --> 00:35:32,921 to get that piece of bread or... He was a fighter. 429 00:35:33,921 --> 00:35:36,821 He was, you know, virtually, "I'm going to die." 430 00:35:36,821 --> 00:35:41,221 In fact, when they liberated him, he was... He said he was getting sick, right. 431 00:35:42,221 --> 00:35:44,721 But that's the kind of guy he was. He came from... 432 00:35:44,721 --> 00:35:47,321 He was a fucking Hungarian Jew, man. 433 00:35:48,821 --> 00:35:51,221 That's where my roots come from. 434 00:35:52,020 --> 00:35:55,720 He was totally supportive, man. His trip was just fucking, 435 00:35:55,720 --> 00:35:58,820 "You're happy, man, you're doing it, I'm with you." 436 00:36:04,020 --> 00:36:06,320 My father was a jeweler, 437 00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:12,420 and he gave these to me when I was 13 years old as a gift. 438 00:36:12,420 --> 00:36:16,420 I've never had them off my neck since they were given to me. 439 00:36:16,720 --> 00:36:19,320 Except the odd time I've had a few scraps with Lips 440 00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:23,820 and he's ripped them off my neck and stuff. But I've always repaired it, you know. 441 00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:33,920 The reality is that we're not getting any younger. 442 00:36:35,720 --> 00:36:38,720 Time doesn't move backwards, it moves forwards. 443 00:36:38,720 --> 00:36:41,420 Your belly gets bigger, your face starts to sag, 444 00:36:41,420 --> 00:36:45,320 your hair falls out, you run out of time. You've got to do it now. 445 00:36:47,720 --> 00:36:52,419 You know, 20 years, 30 years, 40 years, you're done. 446 00:36:53,419 --> 00:36:54,919 You know? 447 00:36:54,919 --> 00:36:58,219 We just got to get it done. I need to see... 448 00:36:58,219 --> 00:37:02,919 Personally, I always say "I", but for all of us, I need to realise this while I can. 449 00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:05,619 - That's it. - That's it. Just while I can. 450 00:37:12,019 --> 00:37:14,419 You know, one of the main reasons that I think that 451 00:37:14,419 --> 00:37:18,419 Anvil has never really gone anywhere is our albums have sounded like crap. 452 00:37:18,719 --> 00:37:22,219 And we haven't sounded good since Chris Tsangarides 453 00:37:22,219 --> 00:37:24,319 recorded us back in the early '80s. 454 00:37:24,619 --> 00:37:27,019 One Toronto band who lives and dies for their heroes 455 00:37:27,019 --> 00:37:30,619 of Judas Priest, Motorhead, Iron Maiden and others, is Anvil, 456 00:37:30,619 --> 00:37:34,419 who may not be the prettiest band in town, but, then again, never professed to be. 457 00:37:35,919 --> 00:37:38,319 # Metal on metal It's what I crave 458 00:37:38,319 --> 00:37:42,319 # The louder the better I'll turn in my grave# 459 00:37:42,319 --> 00:37:44,419 One of the things Anvil has going for them 460 00:37:44,419 --> 00:37:46,619 that should help them gain respect in the marketplace 461 00:37:46,619 --> 00:37:50,019 is that production of the new album was handled by Chris Tsangarides. 462 00:37:50,019 --> 00:37:53,019 Chris, you've got quite a history of doing heavy rock bands, I understand. 463 00:37:53,019 --> 00:37:54,918 Who are some of the other people that you've been producing? 464 00:37:54,918 --> 00:37:58,118 The last thing I did was Thin Lizzie's new album, Renegade. 465 00:37:58,118 --> 00:38:00,018 Never having worked with a Canadian band before, 466 00:38:00,018 --> 00:38:02,518 - how do you find the guys? - Yeah, great. Really. 467 00:38:02,518 --> 00:38:08,918 Yeah, I think they have a lot of English tendencies as opposed to Canadian, 468 00:38:08,918 --> 00:38:11,518 and I mean that in the nicest possible way, musically. 469 00:38:13,918 --> 00:38:16,818 At this point, I'll send him a demo tape 470 00:38:16,818 --> 00:38:20,418 and hope to hell that he is interested enough 471 00:38:21,218 --> 00:38:25,618 and remembers us well enough to get involved again. 472 00:38:35,418 --> 00:38:37,318 Do you use pop or... 473 00:38:38,618 --> 00:38:40,618 - Pop. - Pop? 474 00:38:41,018 --> 00:38:42,118 Yes. 475 00:38:47,818 --> 00:38:50,318 This is where I hang out sometimes, you know. 476 00:38:51,118 --> 00:38:54,517 It's just the Robbo studio music area. 477 00:38:54,517 --> 00:38:58,017 This is where I hide from everybody, you know. 478 00:38:58,017 --> 00:39:00,517 Nobody bothers me down here. I hang out here. 479 00:39:00,517 --> 00:39:04,517 There's Anvil master tapes here, but they're buried in all this junk. 480 00:39:06,617 --> 00:39:09,817 These pictures here, nobody ever sees this stuff, you know. 481 00:39:09,817 --> 00:39:12,217 I like painting. I love to paint. 482 00:39:13,717 --> 00:39:16,117 This is in East Germany. I forget the name of the town. 483 00:39:16,117 --> 00:39:19,817 It's on the back of the picture. So I made a painting of it. 484 00:39:19,817 --> 00:39:21,417 I like buildings. 485 00:39:23,317 --> 00:39:27,317 There's a guy called Edward Hopper, I love the guy's art style. 486 00:39:27,417 --> 00:39:29,017 I find it very appealing when 487 00:39:29,017 --> 00:39:33,317 you see a scene, but there's nobody in it. I like that. 488 00:39:34,017 --> 00:39:36,017 It's a very quiet place, you know. 489 00:39:45,417 --> 00:39:50,017 That, right there, it's just a monument of an anvil in a park. 490 00:39:50,017 --> 00:39:53,617 But look at the size of the people. See, I made the scale like it's big. 491 00:39:53,617 --> 00:39:56,916 Right? Like the Egyptians would have, like it's like a god. 492 00:39:56,916 --> 00:39:59,216 You know, "The god is there!" 493 00:40:00,116 --> 00:40:01,616 Anyways, that's what I was thinking. 494 00:40:02,816 --> 00:40:06,416 This picture is what I call Left Behind. 495 00:40:07,316 --> 00:40:10,316 This is what's left behind when I'm not around no more. 496 00:40:10,316 --> 00:40:13,516 So, I kind of just thought I'd paint myself out of it. 497 00:40:25,116 --> 00:40:28,216 Okay, now I will tell you about The Grand Finale here. 498 00:40:28,816 --> 00:40:33,316 This baby comes from Europe. The inspiration for this is totally German. 499 00:40:34,416 --> 00:40:39,216 If you touch or feel it or look at it, it actually has texture. 500 00:40:41,416 --> 00:40:44,116 I thought it would be the place to put it, obviously, 501 00:40:44,116 --> 00:40:47,616 because the wife definitely didn't want it in the living room. 502 00:40:48,216 --> 00:40:50,416 Message 1. 503 00:40:50,416 --> 00:40:53,316 Hey, Lips. Hey! It's CT here, man. 504 00:40:53,316 --> 00:40:55,116 I got the tape, 505 00:40:55,116 --> 00:41:00,815 and I'd like you to give me a call. Call me here at my studio in Dover 506 00:41:00,815 --> 00:41:03,415 and we'll talk further. All right, dude. 507 00:41:12,515 --> 00:41:14,615 - CT! - Hey, Lips! 508 00:41:14,615 --> 00:41:17,415 - How's it going, man? - All right, dude, how are you? 509 00:41:17,415 --> 00:41:19,915 I'm doing good, man, how have you been? 510 00:41:19,915 --> 00:41:22,215 - Fucking A. - Fucking A. 511 00:41:24,415 --> 00:41:26,515 It's fucking good to hear your voice, man. 512 00:41:26,515 --> 00:41:29,515 - And yours, too. Fuck, yeah. - Fuck! 513 00:41:29,515 --> 00:41:34,215 Yeah, man, well, I listened to the tape and, well, you know, 514 00:41:34,215 --> 00:41:36,415 I want to sit down and talk to you at length about this 515 00:41:36,415 --> 00:41:40,215 but we need to sit down together in the same room 516 00:41:40,215 --> 00:41:43,915 and we'll go through this shit first but we've definitely got... 517 00:41:43,915 --> 00:41:47,215 - I think we've got something. - That's really, really good news, man. 518 00:41:54,615 --> 00:41:55,815 Holy shit. 519 00:41:58,014 --> 00:42:01,114 - We have right now 19 songs written. - Right. 520 00:42:01,114 --> 00:42:04,614 We want to put 13 on this record because this album's called This is Thirteen. 521 00:42:04,614 --> 00:42:07,314 - Right. - The fact that we're still here 522 00:42:07,314 --> 00:42:10,114 doing it is almost... It has its own energy now. 523 00:42:10,114 --> 00:42:12,414 - 30 years. - I want to just, like, "Fuck it, man, 524 00:42:12,414 --> 00:42:14,614 "let's take what we've got and let's fucking once and for all 525 00:42:14,614 --> 00:42:17,214 "try to get this channeled in the right direction." 526 00:42:17,214 --> 00:42:23,814 We need to find about 12,000, 13,000 to do it. 527 00:42:23,814 --> 00:42:28,914 With that minimal of investment, we've got the potential, like you rightly say, 528 00:42:29,414 --> 00:42:32,214 to continue, and we own everything. 529 00:42:32,214 --> 00:42:35,614 You know what, guys, if this sells, you know, we get so much. 530 00:42:35,614 --> 00:42:40,014 If it doesn't sell, what the fuck, we've made a great record anyway, 531 00:42:40,014 --> 00:42:43,014 we don't owe anything to anybody. I just have this feeling. 532 00:42:43,014 --> 00:42:44,814 I don't know why, I haven't got a clue. 533 00:42:44,814 --> 00:42:49,214 I just know that we should do it. It's what we all do. 534 00:42:50,214 --> 00:42:51,414 Where does that leave us? 535 00:42:51,414 --> 00:42:53,514 It leaves you about to record an album with CT. 536 00:42:53,514 --> 00:42:55,014 He's a genius. 537 00:43:01,913 --> 00:43:03,913 At this point, it looks like I'm going to have to... 538 00:43:03,913 --> 00:43:06,913 We're going to have to take further steps. 539 00:43:06,913 --> 00:43:10,413 It's really bad because, of course, this is an expense. 540 00:43:11,613 --> 00:43:15,913 We don't know whether to take initiative now or wait. 541 00:43:17,813 --> 00:43:19,213 So much is riding on it. 542 00:43:19,213 --> 00:43:21,713 Here I've got this incredible opportunity 543 00:43:21,713 --> 00:43:26,013 to work with one of the world's greatest producers and it costs a fortune. 544 00:43:29,013 --> 00:43:31,813 I have no idea where I'm going to get that kind of money. 545 00:43:37,613 --> 00:43:40,713 Why, they are stunning! Did you know that 80%... 546 00:43:43,313 --> 00:43:45,613 Ray bans or Gucci's, he's gonna see... 547 00:43:47,413 --> 00:43:50,013 Get outta town! Where the hell did you get those glasses 548 00:43:50,013 --> 00:43:52,113 and where can I get a pair for myself? 549 00:43:53,513 --> 00:43:56,613 You gotta be dedicated and you gotta want it 550 00:43:56,613 --> 00:44:00,612 and if you're loud and enthusiastic and energetic, 551 00:44:00,912 --> 00:44:03,612 you can make yourself a shit whack of money here. 552 00:44:03,612 --> 00:44:07,412 Read the pitch word for word, okay? That's what's going to make you money here. 553 00:44:07,412 --> 00:44:09,212 You read the pitch word for word. 554 00:44:09,212 --> 00:44:12,912 The pitch is designed basically so that if a monkey could read, 555 00:44:12,912 --> 00:44:14,412 he'd make 600 bucks a week. 556 00:44:14,412 --> 00:44:16,712 Hello, may I please speak to Bob? 557 00:44:16,712 --> 00:44:21,112 Many a times as a fan, I've been there for him 558 00:44:21,112 --> 00:44:24,112 and now he's here for me but he's also here for himself. 559 00:44:24,112 --> 00:44:25,812 Bob, these are gorgeous. 560 00:44:25,812 --> 00:44:29,812 They're made in Italy by RL. They're called Vipers. 561 00:44:30,112 --> 00:44:34,112 These are identical to the ones Keanu Reeves wore in the movie The Matrix. 562 00:44:34,312 --> 00:44:37,412 Absolutely gorgeous. Made in Italy by RL, they're called the Vipers. 563 00:44:37,412 --> 00:44:40,212 They say they give you a 45% better chance of getting laid. 564 00:44:40,212 --> 00:44:43,412 "I'm not calling to cost you money. I'm calling to make you money. 565 00:44:43,412 --> 00:44:45,912 "Try not to at least talk me out of one box." 566 00:44:47,212 --> 00:44:50,912 Come on, buddy, pull up your pants, grab your balls and let's do this. 567 00:44:50,912 --> 00:44:53,212 - I'll tell you what I'll do for you. - I'll tell you what I'll do. 568 00:44:53,212 --> 00:44:56,812 - I've got a guy doing a golf tournament. - I've got a guy doing a golf tournament. 569 00:44:56,812 --> 00:44:59,311 - And he's doing a half a box and... - And he's doing a half a box and... 570 00:44:59,311 --> 00:45:01,811 - Okay, okay. - Don't take okay. What? 571 00:45:02,111 --> 00:45:04,411 I've been trained my whole life to be polite 572 00:45:04,411 --> 00:45:07,811 and that job does the exact opposite. 573 00:45:08,311 --> 00:45:11,011 You've got to go against everything that you've learnt as a kid. 574 00:45:11,011 --> 00:45:12,211 So why are you doing it? 575 00:45:12,211 --> 00:45:15,011 Because I thought that Lips, the character Lips, 576 00:45:15,011 --> 00:45:17,911 would have no problem with doing it, but as it turns out 577 00:45:17,911 --> 00:45:21,811 that guy is actually a lot more honest than a telephone salesman. 578 00:45:21,811 --> 00:45:26,811 Hey, Bill, it's Steve Powers from R&J. 579 00:45:28,211 --> 00:45:29,511 You know what? 'Cause I have one of my guys... 580 00:45:29,511 --> 00:45:36,111 I worked there for a total of probably 8 hours in 3 visits 581 00:45:36,611 --> 00:45:38,811 and I made nothing. 582 00:45:41,011 --> 00:45:42,411 I remortgaged my house... 583 00:45:42,411 --> 00:45:46,411 And I'm not the only one who sits in a really, really... Whoa, okay. 584 00:45:46,711 --> 00:45:48,411 Really serious shit. 585 00:45:48,411 --> 00:45:50,511 Ivan has missed his mortgage payments. 586 00:45:50,511 --> 00:45:53,411 There may be a power of sale on his home. Okay? 587 00:45:53,411 --> 00:45:55,211 Like, I'm not the only one. 588 00:45:55,211 --> 00:45:59,011 Glenn, G Five, he doesn't even have a home. 589 00:45:59,011 --> 00:46:02,210 All of his stuff is sitting in a garage. Okay? 590 00:46:02,210 --> 00:46:06,210 He rented a garage because he hasn't got enough money to live. 591 00:46:06,210 --> 00:46:08,010 No one's getting paid. 592 00:46:08,010 --> 00:46:10,910 It's just, everybody believes in Lips. 593 00:46:10,910 --> 00:46:13,210 That's an incredible thing. 594 00:46:13,210 --> 00:46:19,510 Like a blind dedication and I'm the only one who's got the vision. 595 00:46:19,510 --> 00:46:22,610 "Lips will take us there." "I'm going to take you there, man." 596 00:46:22,610 --> 00:46:27,210 I've got this... It's been a year of it, an absolute overwhelming year. 597 00:46:27,210 --> 00:46:28,610 I'm gonna fucking do it! 598 00:46:31,810 --> 00:46:34,310 That's what it is and that's why I'm here. 599 00:46:34,310 --> 00:46:36,610 I took the fucking risk, yeah. 600 00:46:37,410 --> 00:46:38,810 At what cost? 601 00:46:39,410 --> 00:46:42,410 So there's cliffs I can go jump off. That's the easy way. 602 00:46:42,410 --> 00:46:45,810 Well, no, you won't jump off the cliff 'cause I'll stop you. 603 00:46:49,110 --> 00:46:52,010 - That's dedication, pal. - Seriously. 604 00:46:57,710 --> 00:47:01,609 That's what's taken me 25, 30 years, man. 605 00:47:01,609 --> 00:47:04,109 Of having somebody dedicated to me. 606 00:47:04,109 --> 00:47:06,409 He believes in me. 607 00:47:06,409 --> 00:47:09,409 "Lips will get... Lips is my buddy, man. 608 00:47:09,409 --> 00:47:11,109 "He's going to take... We're going to do it together. 609 00:47:11,109 --> 00:47:14,309 "We're gonna get there. We're going to fucking do it." 610 00:47:14,309 --> 00:47:18,909 Since we were fucking 14 years old. And here we sit in our fucking 50s, man. 611 00:47:19,809 --> 00:47:21,409 We're going to be rock stars. 612 00:47:21,409 --> 00:47:24,509 It's a fucking dream, but I'm going to make it come true. 613 00:47:29,209 --> 00:47:32,609 He will always have what he's done in the past, 614 00:47:32,609 --> 00:47:37,809 but you've got to... If it's over, then you've got to find something else to do. 615 00:47:38,209 --> 00:47:41,509 He's got a son, he's got a wife, he's got 2 stepdaughters, right? 616 00:47:41,509 --> 00:47:44,109 I mean, he's got a mortgage, he's got this, he's got that. 617 00:47:44,109 --> 00:47:47,609 And Anvil, they tour, they don't make a lot of money and, you know, 618 00:47:47,609 --> 00:47:53,409 he's basically telling me, "It's got to happen or I'm done." 619 00:47:53,409 --> 00:47:59,809 Oh, yeah, someone has to stay home, raising a child and work. 620 00:48:02,908 --> 00:48:07,408 I've been very patient as a wife. How long is it gonna take? 621 00:48:08,008 --> 00:48:10,908 How long do I have to keep "waiting"? 622 00:48:10,908 --> 00:48:14,208 They've been working hard to try and make things work 623 00:48:14,208 --> 00:48:18,908 and they're just not getting, I believe, personally, what they deserve. That's all. 624 00:48:28,608 --> 00:48:30,408 - Merry Christmas. - Merry Christmas. 625 00:48:38,208 --> 00:48:40,608 I've always believed that 626 00:48:40,608 --> 00:48:43,308 no matter how hard it gets or how impossible, 627 00:48:43,308 --> 00:48:45,908 there's always hope and there's always a way. 628 00:48:52,608 --> 00:48:57,408 And the most incredible thing has happened. My sister is actually gonna help me out. 629 00:48:57,408 --> 00:49:01,308 She's decided to actually lend us the money to go do the album. 630 00:49:01,308 --> 00:49:05,907 She knows how important it is right now in my life. 631 00:49:06,607 --> 00:49:12,807 And the time that this all is transpiring, it's just an incredible, incredible thing. 632 00:49:14,407 --> 00:49:21,107 That I just wish him well and I wish him success and happiness 633 00:49:21,807 --> 00:49:24,807 and that's all I've ever really wanted for him. 634 00:49:24,807 --> 00:49:28,607 He's my dear brother and I've always loved him. 635 00:49:35,007 --> 00:49:36,407 My sister. 636 00:49:44,007 --> 00:49:46,007 I got my big sister, man. 637 00:49:48,207 --> 00:49:49,307 Cool. 638 00:49:51,307 --> 00:49:54,407 - Family is important shit, man. - Yeah. 639 00:50:36,606 --> 00:50:39,306 If people looked inside themselves a bit more 640 00:50:39,306 --> 00:50:41,806 and think, "Well, why didn't my record sell?" 641 00:50:41,806 --> 00:50:45,006 Well, maybe people didn't like it, and that's the bottom line. 642 00:50:45,006 --> 00:50:47,606 The songs have not been up to muster. 643 00:50:48,306 --> 00:50:54,006 Okay, that's compounded by having crappy record labels, 644 00:50:54,006 --> 00:50:58,006 crappy productions, no management, no anything. 645 00:50:58,006 --> 00:51:01,006 Just a bunch of guys on their own trying to do this. 646 00:51:01,006 --> 00:51:07,205 Now, I mean, I defy a lot of people to get anywhere like this, 647 00:51:07,605 --> 00:51:09,105 but they stuck it through. 648 00:51:09,105 --> 00:51:10,205 They stuck it through 649 00:51:10,205 --> 00:51:13,305 and the fact that they managed to get contact with me 650 00:51:13,305 --> 00:51:15,105 and I heard the stuff and thought, 651 00:51:15,105 --> 00:51:18,005 "You know what, there's something here. We can do something with this." 652 00:51:20,305 --> 00:51:24,605 To get an opportunity at this point in time in history, 653 00:51:24,605 --> 00:51:27,205 I think, is nothing less than a miracle. 654 00:51:28,305 --> 00:51:30,805 - Hello, brethren. - CT vibes. 655 00:51:30,805 --> 00:51:33,805 We have HM brethren here. 656 00:51:35,305 --> 00:51:37,605 - Yeah. - And then come in with it. 657 00:52:08,204 --> 00:52:10,304 This is a good, little, fucking, catchy tune, man. 658 00:52:10,304 --> 00:52:15,204 I mean, it's straightforward metal rock. It's maybe not even, like, metal. 659 00:52:15,204 --> 00:52:18,604 It could be in the pop, punk pop, how about punk pop, metal? 660 00:52:19,804 --> 00:52:24,604 # Bombs away, bombs away 661 00:52:27,804 --> 00:52:30,904 # Bombs away 662 00:52:30,904 --> 00:52:32,204 # Shells explode 663 00:52:32,604 --> 00:52:35,704 # Flashing light, burning fires 664 00:52:35,704 --> 00:52:39,204 # Turn day to night, head on back 665 00:52:39,204 --> 00:52:42,404 # Reload bay, armed again 666 00:52:42,404 --> 00:52:44,004 # Bombs away 667 00:52:44,004 --> 00:52:46,204 # You don't stand a chance 668 00:52:46,504 --> 00:52:50,504 You know what, I'm doing some other stuff that I wasn't anticipating. 669 00:52:50,604 --> 00:52:52,004 - That's good. - Okay. 670 00:52:52,004 --> 00:52:56,004 # Tarot cards and tea leaves 671 00:52:56,304 --> 00:52:59,504 # A crystal ball 672 00:53:01,304 --> 00:53:04,704 # Palm reading, candlelight 673 00:53:05,503 --> 00:53:09,003 # Fortunes to tell 674 00:53:09,703 --> 00:53:12,103 # Fear the unknown 675 00:53:15,403 --> 00:53:22,203 # Edge of your seat in anticipation 676 00:53:36,103 --> 00:53:38,703 I don't know what you want. What do you want? 677 00:53:38,703 --> 00:53:41,803 You sit here all fucking day, pouting, "It's crap." 678 00:53:41,803 --> 00:53:43,803 - You're causing disruption. - Let it all out. 679 00:53:43,803 --> 00:53:46,303 You'll fucking listen to me, you fucking asshole. 680 00:53:46,303 --> 00:53:49,803 Look, you smile. You're smiling at a fucking loser. 681 00:53:49,803 --> 00:53:51,003 You're a fucking loser. 682 00:53:51,003 --> 00:53:52,603 - Let it all out, man. - That's what you are. 683 00:53:52,603 --> 00:53:55,203 - Let it all out. - Calm down, guys. Come and sit down. 684 00:53:55,203 --> 00:53:57,903 It's destructive, it's negative energy. 685 00:53:58,603 --> 00:54:01,003 - What are you doing? - I'm... 686 00:54:01,003 --> 00:54:04,003 You've got everything fucking going for you. What are you doing? 687 00:54:04,003 --> 00:54:09,202 And everybody tells me that. You're right. Everybody tells me that constantly. 688 00:54:09,202 --> 00:54:11,202 You're right. I agree. So maybe... 689 00:54:11,202 --> 00:54:13,102 So where are you going? What are you doing? 690 00:54:13,102 --> 00:54:16,602 I'm going to go pursue something a little bit more satisfactory 691 00:54:16,602 --> 00:54:19,202 than, I guess, what's happening with you. Sorry. 692 00:54:19,202 --> 00:54:23,002 You push me away. I'm accepting your offer. I'm on to the next page. 693 00:54:27,902 --> 00:54:30,702 Oy vey, why is this happening? 694 00:54:31,702 --> 00:54:35,302 I'm fucking sick of it. I can't fucking deal with it. 695 00:54:35,302 --> 00:54:37,802 You know? We're going to come apart at the seams. 696 00:54:37,802 --> 00:54:39,702 I don't know what's going to happen. 697 00:54:39,702 --> 00:54:43,702 I'm so fucking fed up, like we've got to get a drummer. 698 00:54:47,402 --> 00:54:51,802 I mean, I don't know what to say. He's fired. I mean, what can I say? 699 00:55:08,501 --> 00:55:11,401 That guy lives to hurt me, man, 700 00:55:11,401 --> 00:55:14,101 and be jealous. I don't even know what the fuck is wrong with him. 701 00:55:14,101 --> 00:55:18,601 But he's fucking, just lives to fucking hurt me. 702 00:55:22,901 --> 00:55:27,601 I stayed dedicated to what? Stayed dedicated to fucking what? 703 00:55:34,101 --> 00:55:37,101 First thing I want to say is I'm sorry, okay? 704 00:55:38,801 --> 00:55:40,101 Well, I would have liked to hear that... 705 00:55:40,101 --> 00:55:44,001 Okay. Just look at me. Look in my eyes. I want to talk to you, Robb. 706 00:55:44,001 --> 00:55:46,501 I'm sorry. Do you understand that? 707 00:55:47,001 --> 00:55:50,601 I'm under a hell of a lot of stress, okay? 708 00:55:51,001 --> 00:55:55,801 If I lose my temper, if anybody knows, you know. 709 00:55:56,601 --> 00:56:00,401 I'm tired of being the fall guy. Understand? I'm tired of it, that's all. 710 00:56:00,401 --> 00:56:03,901 - I don't want negative energy around. - Fuck you, man, there is no... 711 00:56:03,901 --> 00:56:05,001 - Yes, it is! - I'm positive. 712 00:56:05,001 --> 00:56:08,800 Yes, it is, because negative energy is when you say to me, 713 00:56:08,800 --> 00:56:12,500 "Oh, you do half- assed takes and settle for it." 714 00:56:12,500 --> 00:56:16,900 That is a rude, underhanded, low blow 715 00:56:16,900 --> 00:56:20,300 because I could say the same thing about your takes. 716 00:56:20,300 --> 00:56:25,000 I would never dare because I don't feel that way. 717 00:56:25,000 --> 00:56:29,000 Sit down, sit down, let's try reasonable voices. 718 00:56:29,300 --> 00:56:35,000 So, what I can see going on here is we're having a little bit of... 719 00:56:35,000 --> 00:56:38,700 When something is said, it's over amplified, 720 00:56:39,600 --> 00:56:44,600 and the recipient gets bent out of shape, for whatever reason. 721 00:56:45,100 --> 00:56:49,600 Call it cabin fever, call it... I don't know, it's academic now. 722 00:56:51,400 --> 00:56:53,000 I'm hard to live with. 723 00:56:53,700 --> 00:56:56,100 - Fair enough. - I'm hard to live with. 724 00:56:59,300 --> 00:57:01,600 - Fair enough. Fair enough. - You know? 725 00:57:02,900 --> 00:57:05,900 - I'm emotional. No doubt about it. - Yeah. 726 00:57:05,900 --> 00:57:08,699 But that's what makes you what you are. It makes all of us what we are. 727 00:57:08,699 --> 00:57:10,799 Yeah, that's cool, man, I know that's what you are, man, 728 00:57:10,799 --> 00:57:14,599 but the bottom line is, why am I your fall guy constant- fucking- ly? 729 00:57:15,399 --> 00:57:17,799 - When I'm there for... - Because I love you, that's why. 730 00:57:17,799 --> 00:57:19,999 Because I'm there for you fucking constantly. 731 00:57:19,999 --> 00:57:23,999 Well, he does. He does, man. You want to hear what he says about you. 732 00:57:24,299 --> 00:57:26,199 You're my fucking brother, man. 733 00:57:29,899 --> 00:57:33,699 Who else can I fucking cry on their shoulder or fucking say shit to? 734 00:57:33,699 --> 00:57:37,999 Who else? Who's the closest person I've got in the world? 735 00:57:39,799 --> 00:57:42,099 - I know. I know. - Think about that. 736 00:57:45,199 --> 00:57:49,199 Good. 737 00:57:49,399 --> 00:57:56,299 If I can't express myself and blow up at you, what have I got? I... 738 00:57:56,999 --> 00:57:59,099 You're the closest person I have. 739 00:58:00,599 --> 00:58:01,799 Well... 740 00:58:03,299 --> 00:58:07,899 I'm sorry, I don't know what to say. I'm sorry. I'm very sorry. 741 00:58:08,599 --> 00:58:14,098 Okay, fine. I hear you, it's just been so much of it, dude. 742 00:58:14,098 --> 00:58:16,498 - It's just like, I don't know what the fuck... - We're both stressed. 743 00:58:16,498 --> 00:58:18,898 I ain't stressed about nothing, man. 744 00:58:19,598 --> 00:58:20,798 - I get stressed... - Well, I am. 745 00:58:20,798 --> 00:58:23,898 I get stressed when you start fucking blowing it out on me, dude. 746 00:58:23,898 --> 00:58:25,798 Yeah, then I get stressed, but otherwise I ain't stressed. 747 00:58:25,798 --> 00:58:27,898 I'm fucking going, "Let's go, boys. 748 00:58:27,898 --> 00:58:30,998 "Let's show the fucking world and some of these assholes 749 00:58:30,998 --> 00:58:32,398 - "that they're wrong." - Exactly. 750 00:58:32,398 --> 00:58:36,198 Who is the one always driving that machine? Robbo. 751 00:58:36,198 --> 00:58:38,198 If you look at it, in the great scheme of things, 752 00:58:38,198 --> 00:58:44,098 it's a very, very tiny concern, really, what we're talking about, 753 00:58:44,098 --> 00:58:48,598 and the reactions from everybody were just a little bit excessive. 754 00:58:48,598 --> 00:58:52,298 Yeah. Totally. So...I need your support. 755 00:58:52,298 --> 00:58:56,298 I need your bloody faith in what I'm gonna do 756 00:58:56,498 --> 00:59:00,298 to make this record sound like the fucking dog's bollocks, and it will. 757 00:59:00,298 --> 00:59:03,798 Listen, man, I'm sorry, buddy. Okay? Listen, I'm sorry. 758 00:59:03,798 --> 00:59:09,098 I love you, you know that. Okay? We've got a long road ahead of us. 759 00:59:23,397 --> 00:59:28,597 I still believe that there's an overall feeling of something guiding us, 760 00:59:29,597 --> 00:59:34,397 an aura around us that protects and keeps it going 761 00:59:34,397 --> 00:59:37,897 and I don't know what that is or why it is or how it is. 762 00:59:38,397 --> 00:59:42,997 Whether it's bonding between Robb and I from since we were kids. 763 00:59:42,997 --> 00:59:46,197 I don't know what it is but it's like we're there for life. 764 00:59:49,697 --> 00:59:52,697 Yeah, we're family, man. We're close buddies, man. 765 00:59:52,697 --> 00:59:54,997 Like any family, we have our differences and stuff, 766 00:59:54,997 --> 00:59:58,697 but we've always been able to work through that stuff. 767 01:00:02,297 --> 01:00:03,897 - Merlin did it. - Merlin did it. 768 01:00:03,897 --> 01:00:07,397 Either that or Satan was running all across the countryside 769 01:00:07,397 --> 01:00:09,697 and he dropped a few stones, right? 770 01:00:09,697 --> 01:00:12,296 He was high, man. He was drinking or something. 771 01:00:13,496 --> 01:00:16,396 I want to touch it, man. It has healing powers, they say. 772 01:00:16,396 --> 01:00:19,096 The healing powers is the stuff that I need. 773 01:00:41,496 --> 01:00:45,496 In the studio with me is Lips from Anvil along with Chris Tsangarides, 774 01:00:45,596 --> 01:00:49,596 producer of This Is Thirteen, the name of the brand- new Anvil CD. 775 01:00:49,596 --> 01:00:53,596 Welcome to California and welcome to KNAC. Lips, what label will be putting this out? 776 01:00:53,796 --> 01:00:55,096 That's a good question. 777 01:00:55,096 --> 01:00:58,996 Now that is going to be the $64 question for This Is Thirteen. 778 01:00:58,996 --> 01:01:00,696 I'm looking for a manager. 779 01:01:00,696 --> 01:01:03,796 I'm looking for somebody who will properly represent the band 780 01:01:03,796 --> 01:01:06,596 and get us out there playing in the proper places. 781 01:01:06,596 --> 01:01:11,696 Get us with the proper record company that's going to put our product out there 782 01:01:11,696 --> 01:01:14,195 for people to know that it's there. 783 01:01:14,195 --> 01:01:17,395 Tell you what, this is going to be not only the world premiere here on KNAC.com, 784 01:01:17,395 --> 01:01:21,395 but world premiere here on the Vault. This Is Thirteen. 785 01:01:22,695 --> 01:01:25,795 # Tarot card and tea leaves 786 01:01:25,795 --> 01:01:29,195 # A crystal ball 787 01:01:29,895 --> 01:01:32,395 # The gypsy's kiss 788 01:01:33,995 --> 01:01:39,795 # The death card's call 789 01:01:39,795 --> 01:01:46,095 I really feel that This Is Thirteen is the best sounding Anvil album ever. 790 01:01:46,095 --> 01:01:48,395 And everything is riding on it. 791 01:01:48,395 --> 01:01:51,695 We're going to have all the record companies that we can get 792 01:01:51,695 --> 01:01:55,695 listen to it and, hopefully, they'll make bids on it. 793 01:01:55,695 --> 01:01:58,395 Hopefully we'll get a real, proper record contract 794 01:01:58,395 --> 01:02:03,595 and, somehow, get someplace in this godforsaken crazy business. 795 01:02:09,595 --> 01:02:11,595 - It's the new Anvil album. - Yeah, I'll make sure he gets it. 796 01:02:32,294 --> 01:02:34,794 Hopefully, we'll have more luck back at home. 797 01:02:47,394 --> 01:02:49,394 - Hey! I'm doing okay. - What's up? 798 01:02:51,394 --> 01:02:52,794 - I'm Fraser. - Hi, Robb Reiner. 799 01:02:52,794 --> 01:02:54,594 - Robb, nice to meet you. Sit down, boys. - Lips. 800 01:02:54,594 --> 01:02:57,394 You can make lots of money with this band. 801 01:02:57,394 --> 01:03:00,194 Want to rock and make money. There's nothing wrong with that. 802 01:03:01,494 --> 01:03:04,094 Okay, listen to number 13 first. 803 01:03:18,493 --> 01:03:21,293 # Searching for a place to hide 804 01:03:21,293 --> 01:03:24,193 # Running from those you've defied 805 01:03:24,193 --> 01:03:26,593 # Forsaking the land of the free 806 01:03:28,693 --> 01:03:30,893 It's a bit of a challenge, to be honest. 807 01:03:30,893 --> 01:03:33,593 'Cause the landscape has changed here and it just has to... 808 01:03:33,593 --> 01:03:36,493 If it's going to work here, it has to be the right fit. 809 01:03:36,493 --> 01:03:40,493 We've got to be able to give you guys what you deserve and vice versa. 810 01:03:40,493 --> 01:03:42,793 A major label should put this out 811 01:03:42,793 --> 01:03:45,993 because it's not justice to have something that sounds this good 812 01:03:45,993 --> 01:03:49,993 to go out on anything less than that. Somebody better do this justice. 813 01:03:49,993 --> 01:03:54,393 It hurts so bad because everything else was done so correctly 814 01:03:54,393 --> 01:03:56,393 and that's what was wrong with Attic Records. 815 01:03:56,393 --> 01:03:59,393 It was the Metal On Metal and the Forged In Fire albums. 816 01:03:59,393 --> 01:04:02,693 Those were classic albums, they are classic albums 817 01:04:02,693 --> 01:04:06,293 but recorded for an independent who fumbled the ball. 818 01:04:06,293 --> 01:04:07,593 The history speaks for itself. 819 01:04:07,593 --> 01:04:10,093 You've been around a long time and that has currency. 820 01:04:10,093 --> 01:04:12,393 That says it all, doesn't it? 821 01:04:12,393 --> 01:04:17,492 It's due. I really will check it out and listen to it and we'll see if it fits. 822 01:04:17,492 --> 01:04:19,192 But we definitely won't get into something 823 01:04:19,192 --> 01:04:23,692 we don't think we can do what you guys deserve 'cause it's been, 824 01:04:24,692 --> 01:04:27,692 man, being 51 and doing this, this is a real commitment. 825 01:04:27,692 --> 01:04:30,592 I mean, it's amazing. Thanks for coming by. 826 01:04:30,592 --> 01:04:33,792 - Thanks for having us. - Really nice meeting you, man. 827 01:04:33,792 --> 01:04:36,392 - That's terrific. Thanks a lot. - Have a great day. 828 01:04:36,392 --> 01:04:37,692 All right. 829 01:04:39,492 --> 01:04:41,892 He said your history is worth money. 830 01:04:42,892 --> 01:04:44,592 - Yeah. That's what he said. - Yeah. 831 01:04:44,592 --> 01:04:46,692 He summed it up, basically, "It doesn't matter what the fuck, 832 01:04:46,692 --> 01:04:49,992 "that's what you got, guys." I don't give a fuck about anything else. 833 01:05:08,592 --> 01:05:10,392 This is not good. 834 01:05:13,092 --> 01:05:15,691 I hate the fucking industry, you know? 835 01:05:16,391 --> 01:05:19,391 It will never change. It will never get better. 836 01:05:19,991 --> 01:05:23,591 They're all fucking bottom- feeder, pieces of fuck that run the thing. 837 01:05:23,591 --> 01:05:26,091 Organised criminals, you know. 838 01:05:26,091 --> 01:05:29,391 Drug fucking runners. That's what's the business is about, right? 839 01:05:29,391 --> 01:05:30,991 I hate it, man. 840 01:05:31,991 --> 01:05:36,991 99.9% of the time, the guy never listens to your fucking tape. 841 01:05:36,991 --> 01:05:42,191 And his desk is piled up like this with other entries 842 01:05:42,191 --> 01:05:44,591 into the lottery of rock and roll. 843 01:05:44,591 --> 01:05:47,091 He's going to look at it, he goes, "Let me see. What am I looking at? 844 01:05:47,091 --> 01:05:49,791 "Okay, these guys are in their 50s." 845 01:05:49,791 --> 01:05:53,391 And he's got another band that, "Here, these guys are in their 20s. Hmm." 846 01:05:53,991 --> 01:05:56,891 I would like to see him make it. 847 01:05:56,891 --> 01:06:02,791 I would like to see him recognized, his talent recognized by, you know... 848 01:06:04,691 --> 01:06:09,991 I know his peers do recognize it. But I would like to see him 849 01:06:11,091 --> 01:06:14,591 become as famous as he's been trying to become all these years. 850 01:06:14,891 --> 01:06:18,290 It's over. It's been over for a long time. 851 01:06:19,790 --> 01:06:23,290 And it's just too bad no one's living in the real world. 852 01:06:23,290 --> 01:06:27,290 When you've been in a band for 30 years and you have 13... 853 01:06:27,590 --> 01:06:30,790 They're working on their 13th album, CD, whatever, 854 01:06:31,490 --> 01:06:36,990 and you can still only get 100 people into a bar at any one time, it's a joke. 855 01:06:37,290 --> 01:06:40,390 - It's a joke. - Well, we'll see. I mean, I don't... 856 01:06:40,390 --> 01:06:43,690 Like you said, it's just always a big, "What if? What if?" 857 01:06:44,590 --> 01:06:46,990 And, unfortunately for them, that's what it's been like. 858 01:06:46,990 --> 01:06:49,190 They've really never had a break. 859 01:06:49,190 --> 01:06:53,190 Maybe back in the '80s when they were on with Bon Jovi or whatever. 860 01:06:53,190 --> 01:06:57,190 But I've just been trying to be that supportive rock star wife, I guess, 861 01:06:57,190 --> 01:06:59,790 and I've maybe wanted to live that dream as well. 862 01:06:59,790 --> 01:07:02,390 I like the scene, I like the music. 863 01:07:03,190 --> 01:07:06,990 I like the bands, always liked the bands and the music. 864 01:07:07,490 --> 01:07:10,190 I just fell into that '80s scene and I liked it. 865 01:07:10,190 --> 01:07:13,790 I liked the hair, I still, the hair bands, it's still me, 866 01:07:14,590 --> 01:07:17,889 and nowadays you just... You keep dreaming that dream, but 867 01:07:19,389 --> 01:07:21,489 I'm still dreaming, I guess, as much as what they are. 868 01:07:24,189 --> 01:07:27,989 The album is a success whether it sells 10 or 10 million, 869 01:07:27,989 --> 01:07:33,189 it will make no difference to me on the level of whether it was successful or not. 870 01:07:33,189 --> 01:07:34,989 It was successful because, to me, 871 01:07:34,989 --> 01:07:40,389 it sounds the best we've ever sounded and that's a success. 872 01:07:47,789 --> 01:07:49,889 Voila, Anvil CDs, man. 873 01:07:50,489 --> 01:07:52,989 To mass- produce 1,000 CDs, 874 01:07:52,989 --> 01:07:58,589 you're looking at basically in around a buck, a buck and a half per CD. 875 01:07:59,189 --> 01:08:00,589 There it is, man. 876 01:08:01,489 --> 01:08:03,789 Wow. This Is Thirteen. 877 01:08:04,289 --> 01:08:05,689 People want this. 878 01:08:05,689 --> 01:08:08,989 We get e- mails and people freaking out, "Where the fuck is this album?" 879 01:08:08,989 --> 01:08:11,789 So we got to get it out. It's an amazing album. I love it. 880 01:08:11,789 --> 01:08:15,789 There's no sense waiting for some pitkins from a record company. 881 01:08:16,089 --> 01:08:17,389 It's pointless. 882 01:08:18,088 --> 01:08:20,788 We're selling it directly to our fans, 883 01:08:20,788 --> 01:08:23,288 who are the people that you did it for to begin with, 884 01:08:23,288 --> 01:08:25,488 and now there's no one in between you and them. 885 01:08:25,488 --> 01:08:27,688 I think it's the way to go. I think it's the way to go 886 01:08:27,688 --> 01:08:31,688 that's going to be for all bands. I mean, it's not like we're unknown. 887 01:08:31,688 --> 01:08:35,688 We've got a great head start because we've been around for years, 888 01:08:36,688 --> 01:08:39,788 so I think, at a very minimum, we're going to do okay. 889 01:08:56,988 --> 01:08:59,788 The band is really... It's more than just his career, 890 01:08:59,788 --> 01:09:02,188 but it still is, at the end of the day, his job. 891 01:09:02,988 --> 01:09:06,988 It defines a little bit of the person who he is, but it's still the person. 892 01:09:07,288 --> 01:09:13,888 And even if the band doesn't go or become famous or whatever, 893 01:09:13,888 --> 01:09:15,688 he's still the same person. 894 01:09:15,688 --> 01:09:19,387 And I'm in love with the person, I'm not in love with the band. 895 01:09:19,887 --> 01:09:21,487 - How was skateboarding? - Good. 896 01:09:21,487 --> 01:09:23,187 Good, bad, whatever. Okay. 897 01:09:23,687 --> 01:09:25,387 Put your stuff down, we ordered pizza, okay? 898 01:09:25,387 --> 01:09:26,587 Wow. 899 01:09:27,087 --> 01:09:29,387 He's very focused on family. 900 01:09:29,387 --> 01:09:35,087 Whether I complain that he's not or he's not, he really is. 901 01:09:35,087 --> 01:09:38,387 I think that's one of, maybe, 902 01:09:39,387 --> 01:09:44,287 a greatest criticism and maybe why he withdraws from me 903 01:09:44,287 --> 01:09:48,287 is that when I criticize him, and it has to do with family, 904 01:09:48,487 --> 01:09:50,887 he internalizes that way too much. 905 01:09:51,687 --> 01:09:54,487 And so that's... 906 01:09:55,187 --> 01:09:59,187 While the band is his dream and a bit of who he is, 907 01:10:00,787 --> 01:10:03,387 I think even he knows at the end of the day 908 01:10:03,387 --> 01:10:05,687 that the family is what's important. 909 01:10:06,387 --> 01:10:08,087 Look what you made me do. You made me cry. 910 01:10:20,686 --> 01:10:22,586 Got stuck in the tree. 911 01:10:23,486 --> 01:10:25,786 - Does that count as a point? - No. 912 01:10:27,886 --> 01:10:30,086 Oh, 3- 0. 913 01:10:44,386 --> 01:10:47,086 Okay, thank you very much. I'll speak to you soon. 914 01:10:47,086 --> 01:10:48,986 I've got to call Robbo. 915 01:10:49,586 --> 01:10:52,786 We just got a gig in Japan. I'm serious, man. 916 01:10:53,886 --> 01:10:57,386 Fucking right. Okay, I'll speak to you after. Right, bye. 917 01:10:58,286 --> 01:10:59,886 Next, okay. 918 01:11:01,186 --> 01:11:03,686 We've sent the album out all over the place 919 01:11:03,686 --> 01:11:06,986 and this Japanese promoter heard it and he's invited us to play 920 01:11:06,986 --> 01:11:09,186 in this massive show in Tokyo. 921 01:11:09,486 --> 01:11:12,386 See, everything turns into something else. 922 01:11:12,786 --> 01:11:16,386 You get on the phone, and then, all of a sudden, now we're busy. 923 01:11:32,885 --> 01:11:36,385 It feels like an incredible force of d�j� vu going on. 924 01:11:36,385 --> 01:11:39,785 I feel like I've lived this moment for sure before. 925 01:11:39,785 --> 01:11:44,685 Last time I was here, I was in my 20s. It's really hard to believe that, 926 01:11:44,685 --> 01:11:48,185 fuck, a quarter of a century is gone since I was last here. 927 01:12:35,484 --> 01:12:37,984 It's good to be back, but I find out from the promoter 928 01:12:37,984 --> 01:12:40,284 that we're on at 11:35 a.m. 929 01:12:43,684 --> 01:12:48,784 I came all this distance, did all... Everything that it took to get here 930 01:12:48,784 --> 01:12:52,584 and now what am I worried about? Is anybody going to show up? 931 01:12:54,184 --> 01:12:56,684 I've been in a situation where 932 01:12:56,684 --> 01:13:02,084 I've had 5 people in a place that holds 2,000 and it's not a good feeling. 933 01:13:02,084 --> 01:13:03,284 It really isn't. 934 01:13:03,284 --> 01:13:06,884 It would be very disappointing if there's less than 500 people 935 01:13:06,884 --> 01:13:10,684 because, from what I understand, it's a very, very large place. 936 01:13:12,884 --> 01:13:16,084 Listen, for me, I'll play for no one. I don't give a shit. 937 01:13:16,084 --> 01:13:21,184 I love to play, just to hear the sound and create that vibe of being Anvil. 938 01:13:21,184 --> 01:13:23,283 I live for that anyway. 939 01:13:23,283 --> 01:13:27,783 But it's everybody else that goes with that. 940 01:13:27,783 --> 01:13:32,383 The people that have spent the money to bring you there and everything. 941 01:13:32,383 --> 01:13:34,983 My heart goes out to that aspect, too. 942 01:13:39,183 --> 01:13:42,983 What if no one gets there? Shit, man, it's not a good thing. 943 01:13:50,683 --> 01:13:51,783 Japan. 944 01:14:15,083 --> 01:14:17,283 - Anvil! - Anvil! 945 01:14:17,283 --> 01:14:18,483 Anvil! 946 01:14:18,483 --> 01:14:19,983 - Anvil! - Anvil! 947 01:14:24,482 --> 01:14:29,082 A lot of times I close my eyes during the show and I think about 948 01:14:29,082 --> 01:14:33,082 the place is full and everybody's freaking out 949 01:14:33,182 --> 01:14:36,882 and I try to pretend that it's all good 950 01:14:36,882 --> 01:14:42,582 and I really deal with it afterwards when a promoter comes up to me and goes, 951 01:14:42,582 --> 01:14:48,182 "Well, Lips, I can't pay you what we originally hoped to pay you." 952 01:14:49,082 --> 01:14:53,782 So it would be a really sad moment, I think, to come this distance 953 01:14:54,782 --> 01:14:57,082 all for 5 people or something. 954 01:15:40,781 --> 01:15:44,781 # Metal on metal It's what I crave 955 01:15:44,781 --> 01:15:48,781 # The louder the better I'll turn in my grave 956 01:15:48,881 --> 01:15:52,381 # Metal on metal Ears start to bleed 957 01:15:52,981 --> 01:15:56,881 # Cranking it up Fulfilling my need 958 01:16:05,181 --> 01:16:07,181 # Metal on metal# 959 01:16:07,781 --> 01:16:09,281 Get them up! 960 01:16:09,281 --> 01:16:11,281 # Metal on metal# 961 01:16:11,281 --> 01:16:13,481 All the people back from the stage. 962 01:16:13,481 --> 01:16:14,981 # Metal on metal 963 01:16:17,181 --> 01:16:19,181 Metal on metal! 964 01:16:20,981 --> 01:16:23,181 # Metal on metal 965 01:16:23,181 --> 01:16:25,280 Come on, let me hear you! 966 01:16:25,280 --> 01:16:31,380 # Metal on metal Metal on metal 967 01:16:32,580 --> 01:16:34,380 We love you, Japan! 968 01:17:07,680 --> 01:17:09,680 It goes far beyond writing a good song. 969 01:17:09,680 --> 01:17:13,480 It has nothing to do with the song. It has to do with a matter of attitude, 970 01:17:13,480 --> 01:17:17,080 what you're willing to settle for, who you're willing to work with 971 01:17:17,080 --> 01:17:19,680 and having a good time with my life, enjoying my life. 972 01:17:19,680 --> 01:17:21,980 That's the most expensive thing in life 973 01:17:21,980 --> 01:17:25,979 and the most valuable things in life, is your relationships, 974 01:17:26,179 --> 01:17:29,379 the people that you know, the places you've been 975 01:17:29,379 --> 01:17:31,779 and the experiences you've had. 976 01:17:42,379 --> 01:17:43,579 Oh, Godzilla! 977 01:18:41,278 --> 01:18:44,378 I started out with Robb when I was 14, 15 years old 978 01:18:44,378 --> 01:18:49,178 and we said, "We're going to do it till we're old men." We really meant that. 979 01:18:49,678 --> 01:18:54,578 We had that 15 minutes of fame and then it's gone. 980 01:18:54,578 --> 01:18:56,978 So that's the way I kind of look at it. 981 01:18:56,978 --> 01:19:01,978 So I was lucky enough to have that moment, and I've made, basically... 982 01:19:03,078 --> 01:19:09,678 It was enough of a moment that it prolonged and gave me a career that's 30 years long. 983 01:19:09,678 --> 01:19:13,178 So it was a great achievement, a fantastic achievement. 984 01:19:13,178 --> 01:19:15,878 Nothing to ever look down at or not to be proud of 985 01:19:15,878 --> 01:19:17,578 and that's the way I really look at it. 986 01:19:17,578 --> 01:19:23,178 You don't think about it. Life flies by, man. That's all I'm learning here, you know. 987 01:19:23,178 --> 01:19:27,177 Before you know it, life's done. And it didn't seem that long. 988 01:19:27,777 --> 01:19:31,177 That's what Robbo was learning about a lot of things. 989 01:19:31,177 --> 01:19:33,777 The music lasts forever. 990 01:19:35,277 --> 01:19:38,177 Maybe the debt does, too, but the bottom line is, 991 01:19:38,177 --> 01:19:43,177 the music lasts forever and that's the art and that's the most important thing. 992 01:19:43,177 --> 01:19:47,677 There's tons of bands that can sell millions of records, obviously, 993 01:19:47,677 --> 01:19:50,177 but how many bands can you think of, honestly, 994 01:19:50,177 --> 01:19:52,777 that have stayed together for 30 years? 995 01:19:52,777 --> 01:19:56,777 You've got a couple. You've got The Rolling Stones, you've got The Who, 996 01:19:56,777 --> 01:19:57,877 and you've got Anvil.