1 00:00:21,280 --> 00:00:23,874 BOY: I want to get a good picture, 2 00:00:25,480 --> 00:00:27,994 some more pictures. 3 00:00:31,960 --> 00:00:34,872 This is Carey's room, her bed. 4 00:00:35,720 --> 00:00:41,795 This is the birthday girl's mattress and everything else. 5 00:00:41,840 --> 00:00:43,159 She's even got a TV 6 00:00:43,200 --> 00:00:44,428 in her room. 7 00:00:44,480 --> 00:00:45,708 Ain't she lucky? 8 00:00:46,840 --> 00:00:48,876 That's my sister. 9 00:00:51,560 --> 00:00:53,118 The birthday girl. 10 00:00:53,960 --> 00:00:55,916 Ain't she beautiful? 11 00:00:56,440 --> 00:00:59,159 And here is her brother. 12 00:00:59,200 --> 00:01:00,553 Nick. 13 00:01:14,320 --> 00:01:17,949 WOMAN: The thought of what somebody could have done to him... 14 00:01:19,640 --> 00:01:21,232 It gives you nightmares. 15 00:01:23,440 --> 00:01:24,919 It really does. 16 00:01:29,720 --> 00:01:32,518 ANOTHER WOMAN: His disappearance never made the news. 17 00:01:32,800 --> 00:01:34,552 It wasn't news to them, 18 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:39,116 it was just news to us. 19 00:01:47,960 --> 00:01:53,034 It came to the point where, you know, you're not gonna find him alive, 20 00:01:53,080 --> 00:01:56,197 but you just want to find what happened to him. 21 00:01:56,960 --> 00:01:58,916 (Pouring rain) 22 00:02:42,360 --> 00:02:45,636 MOTHER: They called me at work when I wasn't there 23 00:02:45,680 --> 00:02:51,437 and they wrote a message and said, "Someone from Spain has Nicholas." 24 00:02:52,160 --> 00:02:54,196 He wants to come home. 25 00:02:54,240 --> 00:02:55,514 My mom called me. 26 00:02:55,560 --> 00:02:57,312 I was at work. 27 00:02:57,360 --> 00:02:58,554 And she says, "Sitting down? 28 00:02:58,600 --> 00:03:00,079 You're not going to believe this." 29 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:03,192 Course. It was mysterious, 30 00:03:03,240 --> 00:03:05,470 it was er...exciting, 31 00:03:05,560 --> 00:03:06,913 it was worrisome, 32 00:03:06,960 --> 00:03:10,191 er, it was all mixed emotions, you know? 33 00:03:10,240 --> 00:03:11,832 Ecstatic. 34 00:03:11,880 --> 00:03:13,552 Bewildered. 35 00:03:13,600 --> 00:03:14,715 You know, Spain! 36 00:03:14,760 --> 00:03:16,398 Isn't that like across the country? 37 00:03:16,440 --> 00:03:18,635 Um, how did he get there? 38 00:03:18,680 --> 00:03:21,638 You want... you have like a hundred thousand questions 39 00:03:21,720 --> 00:03:23,392 that you want answered immediately. 40 00:03:23,480 --> 00:03:26,119 I felt wonderful, 41 00:03:27,520 --> 00:03:29,590 you know, excited. 42 00:03:30,040 --> 00:03:33,715 You wanna see him, touch him, you know what I mean? 43 00:03:33,760 --> 00:03:36,672 And you want it all to happen now. 44 00:03:59,720 --> 00:04:00,914 (Pouring rain) 45 00:04:53,520 --> 00:04:57,479 From as long as I remember, I wanted to be someone else. 46 00:04:58,800 --> 00:05:00,870 Someone who was acceptable. 47 00:05:06,520 --> 00:05:07,919 (Siren) 48 00:05:13,520 --> 00:05:17,308 The most important thing for me and what I learned very fast was to be convincing. 49 00:05:22,880 --> 00:05:24,359 When the police arrive, 50 00:05:24,400 --> 00:05:26,391 I have immediately to put into their mind 51 00:05:26,440 --> 00:05:28,715 they have a kid in front of them, not an adult. 52 00:05:28,760 --> 00:05:31,672 So it was very important for me to behave like one. 53 00:05:31,720 --> 00:05:33,836 (Communications over police radio) 54 00:05:48,360 --> 00:05:49,679 (Speaks Spanish) 55 00:05:51,240 --> 00:05:54,630 (Continues to speak Spanish) 56 00:05:54,680 --> 00:05:58,468 They would see me with... in a big coat with younger clothes. 57 00:05:58,840 --> 00:06:03,038 And they would see a kid with a hat, which is very low in the eyes. 58 00:06:03,080 --> 00:06:04,308 They couldn't see my eyes. 59 00:06:05,600 --> 00:06:07,795 (Speaks Spanish) 60 00:06:09,720 --> 00:06:12,359 I wanted to provoke on them a sense of guilt... 61 00:06:14,160 --> 00:06:16,594 (Speaks Spanish) 62 00:06:16,640 --> 00:06:20,918 ..of being adults and to be close to a kid which is dead scared. 63 00:06:21,960 --> 00:06:25,191 When you see a kid that, you know, got nervous reflexes, 64 00:06:25,240 --> 00:06:27,959 that you can't touch them, you can't approach them, 65 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:31,276 then you understand, you understand that something is wrong. 66 00:06:31,320 --> 00:06:33,390 (Speaks Spanish) 67 00:06:36,520 --> 00:06:38,636 (Speaks Spanish) 68 00:06:47,280 --> 00:06:50,829 I wasn't the one who was telling them I've been sexually abused. 69 00:06:50,880 --> 00:06:53,997 I made them ask me that by my attitude, 70 00:06:54,040 --> 00:06:55,837 by my way of doing things. 71 00:06:55,880 --> 00:06:58,997 They were the one thinking about it and that gave me power. 72 00:07:19,520 --> 00:07:21,192 I didn't speak much. 73 00:07:22,760 --> 00:07:25,035 (Woman speaks Spanish) 74 00:07:25,080 --> 00:07:31,030 It's very hard to read a kid that doesn't speak a word sometime. 75 00:07:34,400 --> 00:07:35,913 (Speaks Spanish) 76 00:07:38,080 --> 00:07:39,991 (Speaks Spanish) 77 00:07:40,040 --> 00:07:42,600 If a cop don't know who a kid is and where he comes from, 78 00:07:42,640 --> 00:07:44,835 he just can't keep him in the police station. 79 00:07:46,400 --> 00:07:50,951 And I knew that eventually they would have to put me into a children's home... 80 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:52,672 (Speaks Spanish) 81 00:07:52,720 --> 00:07:55,359 ..and that's all I wanted. 82 00:08:13,000 --> 00:08:15,195 Nobody ever gave a damn about me 83 00:08:15,240 --> 00:08:19,711 and to know that if I change my identity 84 00:08:19,760 --> 00:08:22,228 the reward was eventually to be put in a place 85 00:08:22,280 --> 00:08:24,555 where actually they really cared about me... 86 00:08:25,080 --> 00:08:28,436 then, hell, yeah. I mean, I was reborn. 87 00:08:28,480 --> 00:08:30,391 I mean... (Laughs) ..I was born again. 88 00:08:34,480 --> 00:08:35,959 Nobody ever gave me a childhood, 89 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:39,310 because to give a kid a childhood you need to, to love that kid. 90 00:08:46,040 --> 00:08:47,951 I felt like I belonged there. 91 00:08:51,440 --> 00:08:53,510 (Speaks Spanish) 92 00:08:54,600 --> 00:08:59,037 They didn't know that I was 23, 23 years old. 93 00:09:01,120 --> 00:09:03,429 I was considered like one of them. 94 00:09:21,640 --> 00:09:23,471 BEVERLY: I told him to be home by dinner 95 00:09:23,520 --> 00:09:26,956 and gave him five bucks to go play basketball, 96 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:29,070 and... he took off. 97 00:09:31,720 --> 00:09:35,156 He called home, asking for a ride, er... 98 00:09:35,200 --> 00:09:36,918 which was probably, I don't know, 99 00:09:36,960 --> 00:09:39,315 he's within a couple of miles from his house 100 00:09:39,360 --> 00:09:44,036 and his mother works late and sleeps during the day 101 00:09:44,080 --> 00:09:49,234 and his older brother Jason answered the phone. 102 00:09:49,280 --> 00:09:55,037 When I woke up Jason was there and said that he had called and wanted a ride home, 103 00:09:55,080 --> 00:09:57,150 but Jason didn't want to wake me up, 104 00:09:58,080 --> 00:10:00,389 so told him he had to walk home. 105 00:10:02,400 --> 00:10:08,316 And that's...was the day, the last time we heard from him. 106 00:10:10,760 --> 00:10:15,709 You spend 24 hours crying, sick, worried, 107 00:10:16,560 --> 00:10:19,279 then you get mad, then you get scared, 108 00:10:19,360 --> 00:10:22,033 and then you try to get empowered. You know, "OK, what can we do? 109 00:10:22,080 --> 00:10:24,071 We have to do flyers, we'll do this, we'll..." 110 00:10:24,160 --> 00:10:25,434 You know, so instead of... 111 00:10:25,480 --> 00:10:30,554 you don't cry, you do something positive 112 00:10:30,600 --> 00:10:33,956 and try to work towards, I guess, a solution of finding him. 113 00:10:36,480 --> 00:10:40,189 BEVERLY: I thought somebody offered him a ride, and he got in the car. 114 00:10:42,920 --> 00:10:46,435 I dunno, I think he would have got in a car with someone that he didn't know. 115 00:10:53,040 --> 00:10:55,076 What are you looking at? 116 00:10:56,320 --> 00:10:59,790 I could see the worry and the pain they were going through, 117 00:10:59,840 --> 00:11:03,549 so I always said, you know, "He's out there," you know. 118 00:11:03,600 --> 00:11:05,238 "He'll resurface," you know. 119 00:11:19,640 --> 00:11:25,670 Unfortunately for me, it was one of those places which is very rare in Spain 120 00:11:25,760 --> 00:11:30,072 where actually they can't stand having a kid with no identity card, 121 00:11:30,120 --> 00:11:32,190 er, no proof of who he is. 122 00:11:32,240 --> 00:11:34,356 (Woman speaks Spanish) 123 00:11:38,920 --> 00:11:42,674 They wanted absolutely to know who I was, where do I come from, 124 00:11:42,720 --> 00:11:45,234 erm, they needed to know precise. 125 00:11:45,280 --> 00:11:47,953 (Woman continues in Spanish) 126 00:11:49,360 --> 00:11:52,477 "If you don't tell us, if can't prove us who you are, 127 00:11:52,520 --> 00:11:55,193 I'm gonna have you fingerprinted and your pictures taken." 128 00:11:56,880 --> 00:11:58,950 I couldn't allow that to happen. 129 00:11:59,000 --> 00:12:01,434 I had to find a way out of that. 130 00:12:01,480 --> 00:12:04,597 So the only, only thing left there was 131 00:12:04,640 --> 00:12:06,710 was 1) go to prison 132 00:12:06,960 --> 00:12:10,919 2) prove to them that I'm someone. 133 00:12:20,320 --> 00:12:22,390 I said that I was American. 134 00:12:23,200 --> 00:12:28,797 That er...I ran away and I was willing to contact my family for them 135 00:12:28,840 --> 00:12:30,990 but I wanted to do it myself. 136 00:12:33,800 --> 00:12:37,236 I didn't want my family to receive a phone call from the police or the persecutor 137 00:12:37,280 --> 00:12:38,918 or the judge in Spain. 138 00:12:38,960 --> 00:12:40,359 I wanted to do it myself. 139 00:12:41,240 --> 00:12:43,879 And I said I would need to be in the office for the night 140 00:12:43,920 --> 00:12:45,353 because I live in the States. 141 00:12:45,400 --> 00:12:48,949 The States is, you know, the times is different, it's er... 142 00:12:49,000 --> 00:12:52,231 So erm, you know, just leave me in the office 143 00:12:52,280 --> 00:12:54,191 and tomorrow you will have all you need. 144 00:13:04,960 --> 00:13:06,279 (Speaks Spanish) 145 00:13:14,120 --> 00:13:16,190 In this office nobody could hear me. 146 00:13:18,000 --> 00:13:21,515 I knew that I could pass myself for anyone on the phone, 147 00:13:21,560 --> 00:13:23,118 could convince anyone of anything. 148 00:13:34,720 --> 00:13:36,517 So I call the American Police. 149 00:13:36,560 --> 00:13:37,959 (Phone rings) 150 00:13:38,000 --> 00:13:39,718 County South, Detective Fowler. 151 00:13:39,760 --> 00:13:40,795 The New York Police. 152 00:13:42,640 --> 00:13:44,039 Lieutenant Kojak's office. 153 00:13:44,400 --> 00:13:46,755 Different police stations in the States. 154 00:13:47,080 --> 00:13:48,832 - Dobie here. - Who is this, please? 155 00:13:48,880 --> 00:13:51,440 I told them every time that I was a policeman from Spain 156 00:13:51,520 --> 00:13:53,636 called Jonathan Dorian, 157 00:13:53,680 --> 00:13:55,398 that we had found a kid, 158 00:13:56,200 --> 00:13:59,272 we are sure he's from the States but we don't know where. 159 00:13:59,320 --> 00:14:00,469 How long ago was this? 160 00:14:00,520 --> 00:14:04,957 He's been maybe missing for a few years, that someone must be looking for him. 161 00:14:06,000 --> 00:14:08,434 So the police say, well, you know, 162 00:14:08,480 --> 00:14:11,677 we got hundreds of posters of missing persons on the wall 163 00:14:11,720 --> 00:14:13,915 and we just can't go through each of them. 164 00:14:13,960 --> 00:14:15,632 But what we can do for you 165 00:14:15,680 --> 00:14:19,355 is to give you the number of the centre for missing and exploited children 166 00:14:19,400 --> 00:14:20,879 of Arlington, Virginia. 167 00:14:27,920 --> 00:14:31,674 Centre for missing and exploited children. Lorraine speaking. How may I help you? 168 00:14:33,560 --> 00:14:37,348 Er, we have a kid in a shelter, certainly is American, 169 00:14:37,400 --> 00:14:39,311 who is about 14, 15 years old 170 00:14:39,360 --> 00:14:41,669 but the problem is we don't know who he is... 171 00:14:41,720 --> 00:14:43,073 I describe myself. 172 00:14:43,120 --> 00:14:46,635 Every detail I gave was details that I know that I could handle. 173 00:14:47,280 --> 00:14:50,795 I wanted to be vague enough for her to look at many different things. 174 00:14:50,840 --> 00:14:53,308 I wanted her to have many possibilities. 175 00:14:53,360 --> 00:14:54,588 Let me just take a look here. 176 00:14:54,640 --> 00:14:56,471 "I got maybe something," she said. 177 00:14:56,520 --> 00:15:00,513 "Maybe, you know, we got a kid from San Antonio 178 00:15:00,560 --> 00:15:03,632 missing since June 13 1994. 179 00:15:03,680 --> 00:15:05,875 His name is Nicholas Barclay." 180 00:15:05,920 --> 00:15:08,957 I said, "Could you send me a fax of what he looks like?" 181 00:15:10,680 --> 00:15:15,674 In my head, I was just a police officer with, with Nicholas Barclay next to me, 182 00:15:15,720 --> 00:15:20,316 trying to confirm his identity and like any other policeman would do. 183 00:15:22,800 --> 00:15:24,916 Let's see if it's him. 184 00:15:26,200 --> 00:15:28,156 I thought, let's see if it's him. 185 00:15:36,200 --> 00:15:39,795 I look at it, black and white picture, old picture. 186 00:15:41,240 --> 00:15:44,312 Well, missing for three or four years, 187 00:15:44,360 --> 00:15:47,432 guarantee one thing, there will be a change. 188 00:15:48,320 --> 00:15:50,151 If there is a change, there will be doubt. 189 00:15:50,200 --> 00:15:52,668 If there is doubt, then I got a chance. 190 00:15:54,960 --> 00:16:00,876 Something in my head decided I could do it, that I had to try. 191 00:16:06,680 --> 00:16:11,435 I took the phone and I told her that this is Nicholas. 192 00:16:11,480 --> 00:16:13,311 We got him, it's him. 193 00:16:13,360 --> 00:16:15,316 It's incredible, it's him. 194 00:16:28,840 --> 00:16:31,673 My mom called me and she says, "Are you sitting down? 195 00:16:31,720 --> 00:16:33,676 You're not gonna believe this." 196 00:16:33,760 --> 00:16:36,797 And I said, "What, Mom?" She goes, "The police department called me 197 00:16:36,840 --> 00:16:39,877 and they think they found Nicholas in Linares." 198 00:16:39,920 --> 00:16:42,912 So I'm like, "OK, where in Texas is Linares?" 199 00:16:42,960 --> 00:16:45,076 Because Texas has a lot of small towns. 200 00:16:45,280 --> 00:16:47,077 And then she was like, "No, Spain." 201 00:16:47,120 --> 00:16:48,394 I'm like, "Spain?" 202 00:16:51,720 --> 00:16:53,790 Oh, God, how to explain the emotions. 203 00:16:54,600 --> 00:16:58,070 It's like all these different emotions, from excitement to bewilderment, 204 00:16:58,120 --> 00:16:59,997 to what do we do? 205 00:17:00,040 --> 00:17:03,828 What's the next step? How do we get him? When do we get to talk to him? 206 00:17:06,040 --> 00:17:08,873 I knew that after that they would contact me. 207 00:17:08,920 --> 00:17:13,357 They would try to verify, to call, to see, to... Is it true? Is it here? 208 00:17:13,400 --> 00:17:15,550 Is it, you know... Carey, the family and all that. 209 00:17:16,320 --> 00:17:18,390 (Ringing tone) 210 00:17:25,200 --> 00:17:28,158 Well, when I first got, you know, got a hold of the shelter, 211 00:17:28,200 --> 00:17:31,158 they put me on the phone with Jonathan Dorian 212 00:17:31,200 --> 00:17:34,158 who said that he worked for the, a shelter, 213 00:17:34,240 --> 00:17:37,596 and that he was the one who was talking with Nicholas 214 00:17:37,640 --> 00:17:41,189 and had got the information from Nicholas on who he really was. 215 00:17:44,160 --> 00:17:47,914 When she called, I said that Nicholas was seated next to me. 216 00:17:47,960 --> 00:17:51,350 But he was very scared, he was very traumatised 217 00:17:51,400 --> 00:17:53,072 and he didn't want to talk to no-one. 218 00:17:53,120 --> 00:17:55,680 He sounded very responsible, very concerned. 219 00:17:55,720 --> 00:17:59,269 Er, he claims that he has been abused, that he's been hurt, 220 00:17:59,320 --> 00:18:02,437 that erm...certainly he's been abducted. 221 00:18:02,480 --> 00:18:06,109 I kind of thought he was like a social worker type of person. 222 00:18:06,160 --> 00:18:08,628 Um, very reassuring. 223 00:18:09,000 --> 00:18:11,116 She said, "Is he saying anything? 224 00:18:11,160 --> 00:18:13,276 Is he talking about us? Does he remember?" 225 00:18:13,320 --> 00:18:16,630 Well, actually, I think he forgot about everything, you know. 226 00:18:16,680 --> 00:18:18,477 He doesn't remember very much. 227 00:18:18,520 --> 00:18:20,715 He remember you but not very much. 228 00:18:20,760 --> 00:18:25,914 We were told he was held by some kind of like a sex slave kind of ring, 229 00:18:25,960 --> 00:18:31,318 and that he had escaped from there and that he was found wandering the streets. 230 00:18:31,360 --> 00:18:34,352 She was heartbroken but at the same time she was very happy. 231 00:18:34,400 --> 00:18:35,992 I wanted to hear his voice. 232 00:18:36,040 --> 00:18:37,359 No! 233 00:18:37,400 --> 00:18:41,837 Absolutely, there was no way I was going to talk to her pretending to be Nicholas 234 00:18:41,880 --> 00:18:45,395 because I wasn't Nicholas and she was his sister, 235 00:18:45,440 --> 00:18:48,796 so er...it would have been a risk, 236 00:18:48,840 --> 00:18:50,637 too big a risk for me, 237 00:18:50,680 --> 00:18:52,477 but I did say a few words. 238 00:18:53,640 --> 00:18:56,518 She said: "Hello, Nicholas. You hear me, Nicholas?" 239 00:18:58,960 --> 00:19:00,951 Nothing. 240 00:19:01,480 --> 00:19:04,552 "I love you, Nicholas. I want to take you back home with me. 241 00:19:04,600 --> 00:19:05,828 I'm gonna take you, baby. 242 00:19:05,880 --> 00:19:07,871 I'm gonna come and get you and..." 243 00:19:10,560 --> 00:19:15,350 And maybe you hear "Love you" or something like that, you know. 244 00:19:15,840 --> 00:19:17,319 Very far away. It, it... 245 00:19:17,360 --> 00:19:19,237 And then she say: "Was it him?" 246 00:19:19,280 --> 00:19:21,077 I said, "Yeah. He said 'I love you."' 247 00:19:21,360 --> 00:19:23,396 Oh. And then she started crying on the phone. 248 00:19:24,680 --> 00:19:29,117 You start crying, you tell him, "We're going to come and get you, bring you home. 249 00:19:29,160 --> 00:19:32,436 We'll get there, we're going to bring you home, and I love you too." 250 00:19:35,320 --> 00:19:37,914 I erm... I washed her brain. 251 00:19:53,320 --> 00:19:57,598 I didn't stop, because I didn't think of stopping. 252 00:19:58,840 --> 00:20:02,674 I didn't watch myself in the mirror and say, "What the fuck are you doing? 253 00:20:02,720 --> 00:20:04,711 Stop that immediately." 254 00:20:10,840 --> 00:20:12,831 (Footsteps) 255 00:20:13,160 --> 00:20:16,869 I realised that I've crossed the line. 256 00:20:18,520 --> 00:20:23,640 I wasn't pretending no more to have another identity. I stole one. 257 00:20:34,080 --> 00:20:35,308 (Phone rings) 258 00:20:38,480 --> 00:20:42,075 I got a phone call: "Would you please call a Carey Gibson?" 259 00:20:44,400 --> 00:20:46,550 Well, I was astounded by what Carey said, 260 00:20:48,760 --> 00:20:52,275 so one of the first things I said to her was, 261 00:20:52,320 --> 00:20:56,677 when the FBI and the US State Department assist you 262 00:20:56,720 --> 00:21:01,919 and uh...get you and your brother back here, I have to interview him immediately. 263 00:21:08,840 --> 00:21:11,400 When the welfare of a minor, 264 00:21:11,440 --> 00:21:12,998 er...is in jeopardy, 265 00:21:13,480 --> 00:21:15,994 our reaction has to be very quick, 266 00:21:16,040 --> 00:21:17,598 er...very responsive. 267 00:21:17,640 --> 00:21:18,834 We have to put ourselves 268 00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:20,074 in the position of the child 269 00:21:20,120 --> 00:21:22,111 or the child's parents or guardians. 270 00:21:22,760 --> 00:21:25,911 Generally when a child is missing for years, 271 00:21:25,960 --> 00:21:30,954 either the child is dead or the child is not found 272 00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:35,755 and to find that child in another country is extremely rare. 273 00:21:36,200 --> 00:21:39,192 That made it all the more compelling for us 274 00:21:39,240 --> 00:21:42,915 to make sure that we did everything right in terms of er... 275 00:21:42,960 --> 00:21:45,997 establishing who he was and getting him back to his family. 276 00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:47,917 My main concern was getting him back, 277 00:21:47,960 --> 00:21:51,509 so that my part could start, the investigation could start... 278 00:21:51,640 --> 00:21:53,949 we could find out what had happened to this child. 279 00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:56,070 I sent somebody out there as quickly as possible. 280 00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:08,868 The next day... The next day, it got beyond my control. 281 00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:14,150 The centre for missing and exploited children sent me a flyer. 282 00:22:14,920 --> 00:22:18,151 There was the picture of Nicholas at the time of his disappearance... 283 00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:26,477 And I saw what real Nicholas looked like, really with colours and everything. 284 00:22:29,360 --> 00:22:31,510 He was very blond, very... 285 00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:33,790 He had blue eyes. 286 00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:35,796 He looked nothing like me! 287 00:22:36,320 --> 00:22:37,469 Nothing! 288 00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:40,512 There's, you know, the only thing he had in common with me 289 00:22:40,560 --> 00:22:42,835 was that he had five fingers at each hands. 290 00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:46,750 Then I said, fuck, let's burn myself. 291 00:22:47,560 --> 00:22:49,391 You know, I burned the flyer. 292 00:22:49,440 --> 00:22:51,510 If I could have burned the identity that I said 293 00:22:51,560 --> 00:22:54,199 and every word that had been out of my mouth for the past few days, 294 00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:55,912 I would have burned them too! 295 00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:06,314 When everyone tells me that the American Embassy is coming 296 00:23:06,360 --> 00:23:08,954 and er...everybody's, you know... 297 00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:11,468 and don't worry, Nicholas, we're gonna take care of you. 298 00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:16,548 Well, yeah, OK, you know, I... I couldn't do nothing. 299 00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:18,274 The only thing I could do 300 00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:21,471 was think of how was going to be the prison where I was going to be. 301 00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:32,199 I didn't know what to do. 302 00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:34,196 I really didn't know what to do. 303 00:23:35,560 --> 00:23:38,233 When the Vice Consul first arrived in Linares, 304 00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:41,238 he got to the centre and found Nicholas Barclay had disappeared. 305 00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:48,793 I said, you've got to find him. 306 00:23:50,360 --> 00:23:54,273 So he essentially, with somebody from the Linares Centre, 307 00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:56,356 went around looking for him. 308 00:23:57,440 --> 00:24:01,638 Our priority was his safety and to make sure he was reunited with the family. 309 00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:08,756 I tried to run away like I would do anywhere else. 310 00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:16,239 Nicholas Barclay? 311 00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:18,991 God didn't want me to leave this place. 312 00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:23,353 I spoke with the vice consul and asked him about his interactions with Nicholas. 313 00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:27,234 He reported at the time that he spoke English, 314 00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:32,390 that he, he was, he was at least at that moment 315 00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:34,112 convinced that this was an American. 316 00:24:42,360 --> 00:24:45,193 When I woke up the next morning, everything was normal. 317 00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:46,958 (Knock at door) 318 00:24:50,120 --> 00:24:53,157 Then I saw the director of the shelter that said, 319 00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:56,510 "Well, you know, you must be happy, your sister is on the way." 320 00:24:57,080 --> 00:24:59,355 So I said, "What do you mean?" 321 00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:03,712 He say, "Well, your sister, you know, from San Antonio, 322 00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:06,194 she's on the plane, she's coming to get you." 323 00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:10,393 Fuck, you know. Fuck! Fuck! 324 00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:11,589 Fuck! Fuck! Fuck! 325 00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:13,198 I'd never left the country. 326 00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:15,708 I didn't know even what it entailed. 327 00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:21,998 I knew Mom couldn't handle the flight. 328 00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:23,473 She can't, she couldn't do it. 329 00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:24,873 I have to do this. 330 00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:28,071 I just gotta go get him and get him back here where he's safe. 331 00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:33,237 I should have thought of that. 332 00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:36,595 I should have thought of the consequences. 333 00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:38,631 If you do that, imagine for a second 334 00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:43,037 that you're the father of a kid that's been missing for three years, four months, 335 00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:46,356 and that they find him in Columbia, er...what would you do? 336 00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:48,311 What would be the first thing you'd do? 337 00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:50,791 I would jump on a fucking plane. 338 00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:56,238 I didn't sleep for two days before I got on the plane. 339 00:25:56,280 --> 00:25:59,272 Fear, but also anticipation, 340 00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:01,278 cos you want to get there, get there. 341 00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:04,915 You want to see him, hold him, smell him, just get there. 342 00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:10,116 You can't prepare to play a role of a person that you don't know. 343 00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:14,955 I couldn't be Nicholas Barclay because I didn't know Nicholas Barclay. 344 00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:18,512 I didn't even know at that moment if he was left or right-handed. 345 00:26:19,120 --> 00:26:22,032 So, er, that was a problem. 346 00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:26,150 I got on the plane and tried to sleep. 347 00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:27,838 Didn't work. 348 00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:47,951 (Nick's voice) 349 00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:50,951 The director... 350 00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:56,754 This is Nick, mwhah. 351 00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:04,552 BEVERLY: He thought he was an adult. 352 00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:07,592 We called him 13 going on 30. 353 00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:10,755 Very difficult to discipline him. 354 00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:14,637 If he made up his mind he was gonna do something, 355 00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:17,638 pretty much there wasn't a lot you could do. 356 00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:20,991 Put the lighter down. 357 00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:25,118 CAREY: He'd run away before for a night or two, mad at Mom. 358 00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:27,469 "I'm leaving, I'll find a new mom, a new home. 359 00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:29,232 Kiss my ass," kind of thing. 360 00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:33,034 And he, you know... would leave and she would hunt him down 361 00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:36,072 and find out where he is and he'd show up the next day. 362 00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:42,831 He was not, um, you know, this perfect nice sweet innocent, 363 00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:46,276 he was a very street-smart city boy. 364 00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:54,149 - It's nice to meet ya. I am the director. - In here, Nick. 365 00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:56,191 See, ain't I beautiful? 366 00:27:56,560 --> 00:27:59,120 He had beautiful blond hair. 367 00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:01,833 Kind of looked like, erm, a little pixie. 368 00:28:02,360 --> 00:28:05,477 He had blond hair and blue eyes and a bit of a gap between his teeth. 369 00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:07,511 When he smiled, you could see it. 370 00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:34,834 Finally I'm on the ground. "Who, who, who am I looking for? 371 00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:36,757 What do they look like? Are they in suits? 372 00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:38,677 Oh, damn, you can smoke here. Thank God!" 373 00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:42,114 The air smelt different. 374 00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:45,197 Erm, it was a lot less crowded than I thought. 375 00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:58,873 I did everything I could to give myself a chance. 376 00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:06,913 I bought product to colour my hair totally blond. 377 00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:11,876 The gentlemen and a lady approached me, 378 00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:14,195 cos I wasn't sure where to go 379 00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:16,708 and we went straight into a car and started driving. 380 00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:25,349 On the flyers it said that Nicholas Barclay had three tattoos. 381 00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:32,238 There was a girl inside the shelter that did small tattoos just like that. 382 00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:34,191 She was no pro, she was just a kid. 383 00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:36,271 And I asked her to put those tattoos 384 00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:38,151 that were on the flyers on me. 385 00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:50,956 I was quiet and that's when the lady started talking to me. 386 00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:57,231 She kept my mind busy with explaining the countryside to me 387 00:29:57,320 --> 00:29:59,311 the whole way down there on the drive. 388 00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:09,315 I took big sunglasses, I took a hat, I took a scarf, I took a glove. 389 00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:11,518 I thought that if she couldn't see me, 390 00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:14,233 then she wouldn't be able to say I'm not her brother. 391 00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:19,277 We stopped for a Coca-Cola, which I thought was really cool. 392 00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:23,757 They had coke there and it was the anxiety of how long it was taking. 393 00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:30,474 Minutes before she arrived I was convinced it was finished. 394 00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:33,871 That I was gonna get arrested and maybe beat up also 395 00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:36,070 because they were not going to be happy about it. 396 00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:39,954 I remember going into like a waiting area. 397 00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:44,956 I'm speaking with a couple of people from the home saying that he was in his room. 398 00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:47,719 He'd been locked in his room all day. He wouldn't let anyone go in. 399 00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:51,070 Finally when I heard someone knocking at the door and saying, 400 00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:55,193 "Hey, Nicholas, your sister is downstairs, 401 00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:57,356 er...she's waiting for you, she's there..." 402 00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:01,150 CAREY: I went downstairs and into like a courtyard. 403 00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:03,919 There were some kids playing like ball against a wall 404 00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:06,997 and looked up at the window and told him, 405 00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:09,873 "I'm here, come here. I want to see you, I want to hold you." 406 00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:13,435 I remember seeing him look out the window. 407 00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:18,273 I was sure that as soon as the sister was gonna see me, 408 00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:21,518 she was going to say "What the fuck is that?" You know. 409 00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:23,551 That's not...that's not Nicholas. 410 00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:30,191 I waited maybe 10 minutes. 411 00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:33,678 I knew I was about to lose everything. 412 00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:35,952 I knew I couldn't wait no more, 413 00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:37,433 that I couldn't go away, 414 00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:39,277 that I couldn't just disappear, 415 00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:41,595 so I opened the door and I went down. 416 00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:49,915 It was just this sense of immense relief. 417 00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:54,913 Just seeing, touching, kissing, holding him. 418 00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:58,196 I said, "What the hell?" You know. 419 00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:00,953 He's here, we're here, I have him. 420 00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:04,716 She didn't even wait a second or two seconds. 421 00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:06,910 She jump on me, she jump on me, 422 00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:08,518 she took me in her arms 423 00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:12,758 and she said, "Nicholas, oh, and you were afraid I wouldn't recognise you. 424 00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:14,597 I would remember that nose." 425 00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:19,077 So I just... I remember touching his nose and telling him, um, 426 00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:22,396 "I remember that nose, you kind of look like your Uncle Pat." 427 00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:27,596 She said, "Don't worry," like she always say, "everything is going to be fine. 428 00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:29,392 Everything is going to be perfect. 429 00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:31,271 I know it's you." 430 00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:34,559 He was just...just basically told me he loved me, 431 00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:39,390 and he didn't say a whole lot until all the people left. 432 00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:44,832 Only God know why she would do something like that, 433 00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:52,389 but...but I know one thing for sure is there was no other way. 434 00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:55,034 She came for me and she wanted me back. 435 00:32:57,440 --> 00:33:03,037 We went to the visit room and she showed me dozens of pictures. 436 00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:05,751 Pictures, pictures, pictures. 437 00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:10,148 You remember, this was with Mom at the, at the house we were living in 438 00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:12,111 before you, you went missing. 439 00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:15,670 Remember this was when you were playing with Scotty. 440 00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:17,711 Remember this was... 441 00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:23,438 And he was like, "Jason looks the same, Codey's gotten pretty big, huh? 442 00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:27,155 Mom, God, Mom looks exactly the same. Has she put on weight? 443 00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:30,629 Wanted to know if Grandpa was still an asshole, 444 00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:33,911 um, told me how much he loved Grandma and he missed her. 445 00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:38,152 I remember seeing the tattoo, the cross between his, you know, 446 00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:39,519 right here on his hand. 447 00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:42,597 I just kept thinking how much he looks like Uncle Pat 448 00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:45,837 and how mom was going to be really surprised how tall he was. 449 00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:50,914 She said that he looked very different, 450 00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:52,996 that he had, you know, grown up... 451 00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:57,075 ..and erm... 452 00:33:57,120 --> 00:34:02,672 he's very quiet, you know, kinda held back. 453 00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:05,439 He talked with a funny accent. 454 00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:09,393 But it was always a whisper and very quiet like he was hiding from something. 455 00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:15,469 I mean, God, look what he had been through. 456 00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:17,591 He wasn't the same person. 457 00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:20,518 He wasn't the same Nicholas that disappeared four years before. 458 00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:23,552 He had been held and tortured and God knows what else. 459 00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:25,591 He wasn't that same person. 460 00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:36,231 The judge in Linares wanted to make sure that there was in fact some legal basis 461 00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:41,149 for Nicholas claiming to be er... Carey Gibson's lost brother. 462 00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:48,477 So now the problem was that they had the sister and the embassy official 463 00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:51,432 that were swearing that I was Nicholas Barclay 464 00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:54,438 and there was the police and the prosecutor 465 00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:57,313 and the judge who were not convinced at all. 466 00:34:57,360 --> 00:34:59,635 The judge insisted on separate interviews 467 00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:06,711 and part of the evidence that was in those interviews was a family photo album. 468 00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:11,237 And the judge said, "Listen, the only way for you to prove 469 00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:14,272 that you're really Nicholas is we got pictures here 470 00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:16,117 that you've never seen before. 471 00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:21,271 I'm gonna show you five of them." 472 00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:24,591 Number one, OK. 473 00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:26,672 Number two, OK. 474 00:35:26,720 --> 00:35:28,278 Number three, OK. 475 00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:29,958 Number four, OK. 476 00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:31,353 On the five one I made a mistake, 477 00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:35,479 but it was too late. 478 00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:37,795 She was already convinced I was Nicholas Barclay. 479 00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:39,959 (Speaks Spanish) 480 00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:49,838 At that point I didn't see how I could not document him as a US citizen. 481 00:35:54,240 --> 00:35:59,189 I would not have been able to do anything if Carey didn't show me those pictures. 482 00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:05,353 They took picture of me, with no hat, with nothing. 483 00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:08,034 Which was, you know, they saw my eyes. 484 00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:13,471 Erm, the constitution of the United States. I swear to be a US citizen. 485 00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:17,033 You know, it wasn't real but I did it. 486 00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:45,112 CAREY: We didn't do a whole lot of talking the night before we got on the plane. 487 00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:49,908 Not uncomfortable, just silence, and it was almost like a peaceful silence. 488 00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:59,072 You know, I could hear him breathing and I just felt pretty peaceful. 489 00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:09,436 I'd been thinking about running away even before I met her. 490 00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:21,115 All I got to do was take a taxi cab and, going to a train station, 491 00:37:21,160 --> 00:37:22,991 buy myself a ticket out of Spain. 492 00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:26,476 I could have done that in a couple of minutes. 493 00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:29,675 Nothing was stopping me, nothing. 494 00:37:29,720 --> 00:37:32,280 I went down a few times in the hallway, 495 00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:36,552 always wondering if I was doing the right thing, the wrong thing. 496 00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:42,673 Should I go, shouldn't I go, should I go, shouldn't I go? 497 00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:47,631 (Distant shouting) 498 00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:56,395 When I was born, I don't think there was much love. 499 00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:03,709 My mother was very, very young at the time and she was, she was only 17 years old, 500 00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:08,629 met er...older man, which was my father, from Algeria. 501 00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:14,396 My grandfather was a very racist person 502 00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:18,877 and knowing that the man my mother spent the night with is an Algerian, 503 00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:22,356 he wanted absolutely my mother to have an abortion. 504 00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:25,437 Er, to get rid of me even before I was born. 505 00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:31,355 For him an Arab should be dealt with a nuclear weapon 506 00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:33,391 and a black man is a monkey. 507 00:38:34,520 --> 00:38:37,717 Before I was born, I definitely I had the wrong identity. 508 00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:43,512 Er, I already didn't know...I was already prepared not to know who I really was. 509 00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:51,271 A new identity with a real passport, an American passport. 510 00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:53,436 I could go to the US, go to school there. 511 00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:57,556 Live with that family and just being someone. 512 00:38:57,600 --> 00:39:02,151 And don't have never again to worry about being identified. 513 00:39:03,240 --> 00:39:05,231 I saw the opportunity. 514 00:39:07,240 --> 00:39:13,475 A woman that could go through so much to get me with her back in a family 515 00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:17,513 which got kids, which seem a fam... a loving family, 516 00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:20,077 gotta be some...somebody good, 517 00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:24,510 You know, I had conflicting rules inside my own head. 518 00:39:50,720 --> 00:39:53,712 Carey want me to be Nicholas but what about the others? 519 00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:55,716 Are they going to want me to be Nicholas too? 520 00:39:57,760 --> 00:40:04,438 I didn't understand why he was so... like, nervous, you know what I mean? 521 00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:07,836 He was like, you know, constantly moving and to the bathroom, 522 00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:09,353 and watching people, 523 00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:11,630 watching me, he was always watching me. 524 00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:13,871 She was always looking at me. 525 00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:17,434 I attested it to him just being scared. 526 00:40:17,520 --> 00:40:19,431 You know, he's going back home 527 00:40:20,080 --> 00:40:22,469 and we don't know what's happened to him, 528 00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:24,351 how his mind's working. 529 00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:26,595 Um, but he was just... maybe he was afraid 530 00:40:26,640 --> 00:40:30,599 that, that he wouldn't be recognised or, or Mom wouldn't love him any more. 531 00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:33,717 I'm gonna get killed. 532 00:40:33,760 --> 00:40:35,398 And I want... 533 00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:38,079 And I say, well, maybe the plane better crash. 534 00:40:38,120 --> 00:40:43,353 When they said it was time for us to board, I...nudged Nick and I said, 535 00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:46,318 "You ready? You ready to go home?" He said, "I'm ready to go home." 536 00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:49,432 "Let's get the fuck out of here, and go home." 537 00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:51,791 (Laughs) And we got on the plane. 538 00:41:10,920 --> 00:41:16,552 I was really nervous, anticipation, pretty happy. 539 00:41:17,640 --> 00:41:20,996 You know, we had made it... It was a family thing, we all went together. 540 00:41:26,200 --> 00:41:28,714 MAN: I remember that night, minute by minute. 541 00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:31,591 It was me, my grandma, 542 00:41:31,640 --> 00:41:33,915 my sister and my dad, I believe. 543 00:41:33,960 --> 00:41:35,996 We all loaded up in my Lincoln 544 00:41:36,040 --> 00:41:37,632 to go get my mom and Nicholas. 545 00:41:41,160 --> 00:41:44,630 It was a wait and see but everybody was excited, you know. 546 00:41:44,680 --> 00:41:46,671 We didn't know what to expect... 547 00:41:57,760 --> 00:41:59,751 I didn't want to go out of the plane. 548 00:42:00,720 --> 00:42:01,994 I wanted to wait. 549 00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:03,439 I wanted to prepare myself. 550 00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:18,794 I didn't have no plan. I didn't have no strategy. 551 00:42:19,240 --> 00:42:21,231 I knew there was no way out. 552 00:42:21,880 --> 00:42:23,677 I could not turn back. 553 00:42:32,120 --> 00:42:37,831 We had no idea what kind of person we were getting, who was coming back. 554 00:43:00,720 --> 00:43:03,234 I wanted to run and grab and hold him but he held back. 555 00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:08,155 So I walked down and grabbed his hand and hugged him and told him I missed him. 556 00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:21,913 He had changed so much. 557 00:43:22,480 --> 00:43:24,436 It was like mind-boggling. 558 00:43:25,360 --> 00:43:26,713 But then I realised, you know, 559 00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:29,957 you tell yourself, well, he's been through all this horrendous stuff, 560 00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:32,992 so he's absolutely gonna be different. 561 00:43:35,160 --> 00:43:39,711 CAREY: I just remember my kids and my mom and erm, my husband 562 00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:41,716 and just, God, we were so happy. 563 00:43:45,600 --> 00:43:47,989 BEVERLY: He was like totally covered up, 564 00:43:48,040 --> 00:43:52,795 so then I got scared, thinking that this kid's really messed up, 565 00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:56,631 just by his appearance. 566 00:44:02,840 --> 00:44:08,710 He was very quiet and erm, standoffish. 567 00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:15,991 I never liked people to touch me. 568 00:44:16,920 --> 00:44:18,911 And I can't change that. 569 00:44:18,960 --> 00:44:21,599 So when she put her hands around me, 570 00:44:21,640 --> 00:44:25,474 she must have felt that I wasn't enjoying it at all. 571 00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:34,273 I was very cold, very closed. I didn't speak to people. 572 00:44:36,200 --> 00:44:42,230 As much as I was happy...I didn't show it. 573 00:44:50,080 --> 00:44:53,516 I had a border in front of me. 574 00:44:53,560 --> 00:44:55,198 I didn't want to screw up. 575 00:45:00,960 --> 00:45:08,878 Of course, it was welcome with open arms and let's get you home attitude. 576 00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:13,597 Talk about the rest later, you know, let's just go home. 577 00:45:30,240 --> 00:45:32,959 BEVERLY: I just watched him all the way home in the car 578 00:45:33,040 --> 00:45:34,871 and you could tell he was uneasy. 579 00:45:35,560 --> 00:45:40,156 So we put on a tape, tried to make him as comfortable as possible. 580 00:45:40,200 --> 00:45:42,509 ♪ THE DOOBIE BROTHERS: Listen To The Music 581 00:45:48,800 --> 00:45:51,598 It was a quiet ride home, you know, 582 00:45:51,640 --> 00:45:55,428 and everybody, you know, quiet but yet excited. 583 00:45:55,480 --> 00:45:59,155 ♪ Don't you feel it growin', day by day 584 00:45:59,760 --> 00:46:02,433 ♪ People gettin' ready for the news 585 00:46:02,480 --> 00:46:06,792 I couldn't keep the smile off my face at that point in time, honestly. 586 00:46:07,480 --> 00:46:10,153 I just had a grin and all the way home. 587 00:46:10,200 --> 00:46:14,318 ♪ Oh, oh, listen to the music 588 00:46:15,040 --> 00:46:18,749 ♪ Oh, oh, listen to the music 589 00:46:20,080 --> 00:46:24,358 It was just a happy good feeling that... 590 00:46:25,040 --> 00:46:28,828 our long lost Nicholas was home. 591 00:46:32,160 --> 00:46:33,752 I had a family and even more. 592 00:46:33,840 --> 00:46:36,354 I never... I never dreamed of so much. 593 00:46:36,920 --> 00:46:43,519 I never dreamed to be able to not only stay in a place where I'm loved 594 00:46:43,560 --> 00:46:45,551 but actually to have a family. 595 00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:11,879 When I woke up in Texas country... 596 00:47:13,680 --> 00:47:16,877 .. what I saw wasn't exactly what I expected to see. 597 00:47:23,600 --> 00:47:29,391 The States for me was big city, it was big buildings and, and people everywhere. 598 00:47:31,480 --> 00:47:35,234 The first thing when you open your eyes is official, 599 00:47:35,280 --> 00:47:37,316 your name is Nicholas Patrick Barclay, 600 00:47:37,360 --> 00:47:39,749 that you're born December 31st 1980, 601 00:47:40,280 --> 00:47:42,794 and that every family member is calling me Nicholas 602 00:47:42,840 --> 00:47:45,638 and not "Nicholas, but what is your real name?" 603 00:47:45,680 --> 00:47:47,671 No! Nicholas. 604 00:47:47,720 --> 00:47:50,154 "OK, we're going to go shopping, Nicholas." 605 00:47:56,560 --> 00:47:58,551 They drove me around, 606 00:47:58,920 --> 00:48:01,878 and, you know, I knew I had to recognise something, 607 00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:06,198 so...and I also knew that I couldn't because I'd never been there before. 608 00:48:07,400 --> 00:48:09,118 Hey, Kirk, how are you doin'? 609 00:48:09,160 --> 00:48:12,436 We met some people that knew Nicholas before he disappeared. 610 00:48:12,480 --> 00:48:16,678 I told them I didn't remember them, there was something but I didn't remember them. 611 00:48:16,720 --> 00:48:19,757 Like I had lost my memory, which is what I told them. 612 00:48:21,600 --> 00:48:23,591 He's traumatised. 613 00:48:23,960 --> 00:48:25,871 That's why he wasn't remembering anything, 614 00:48:25,920 --> 00:48:29,390 because of all, all of the things that had happened to him. 615 00:48:31,560 --> 00:48:33,073 I remember a sign. 616 00:48:33,120 --> 00:48:38,319 I saw Nicholas in the picture doing this with his fingers, you know, 617 00:48:38,360 --> 00:48:40,351 his, his way to say "hello", you know, 618 00:48:40,760 --> 00:48:42,751 and I did it a few times with them. 619 00:48:43,040 --> 00:48:46,077 When I was there. That was one of the only things I knew what to do. 620 00:48:48,280 --> 00:48:49,918 I was thinking to myself 621 00:48:49,960 --> 00:48:53,157 that Nicholas Barclay could come back at his house any day. 622 00:48:53,840 --> 00:48:55,398 That was my first worry. 623 00:48:55,440 --> 00:48:57,431 I was really worried about that. 624 00:48:58,320 --> 00:49:01,153 I couldn't help it. I said, "Man, what if he show up?" 625 00:49:01,480 --> 00:49:03,755 What if you opened the door and say, "Hey, I'm back." 626 00:49:03,800 --> 00:49:05,279 (Laughs) You know. 627 00:49:07,200 --> 00:49:11,796 We thought the best thing for him was just to have a normal routine. 628 00:49:12,560 --> 00:49:15,552 You get up, you eat breakfast, you do this, you eat lunch, 629 00:49:15,600 --> 00:49:19,639 you eat dinner, we'd watch a movie, just the normal family atmosphere. 630 00:49:19,880 --> 00:49:21,871 Me and him hung out. 631 00:49:22,600 --> 00:49:26,309 I’d just take him for drives and talk to him and turn up the music and stuff. 632 00:49:27,240 --> 00:49:29,231 ♪ I listen to the wind 633 00:49:29,280 --> 00:49:31,475 ♪ To the wind of my soul 634 00:49:31,520 --> 00:49:33,431 CAREY: He'd hang out with Codey and his friends 635 00:49:33,480 --> 00:49:36,472 and after school they'd go to the park and play, 636 00:49:36,520 --> 00:49:39,318 and, I mean, they would do what teenagers do. 637 00:49:39,600 --> 00:49:42,910 He actually kinda started liking a girl in the neighbourhood, Amy. 638 00:49:43,440 --> 00:49:44,998 They would hang out, talk on the phone 639 00:49:45,040 --> 00:49:47,952 and he'd kinda get blushy-red when we talked about her. 640 00:49:49,480 --> 00:49:52,916 The only person I hadn't met in the Barclays' family 641 00:49:52,960 --> 00:49:57,033 was, erm, Jason, his other brother, the brother of, erm, Carey. 642 00:49:57,920 --> 00:50:00,388 And finally he came to see me. 643 00:50:00,440 --> 00:50:05,912 He didn't look at me like Nicholas and he didn't pretend to look at me like Nicholas 644 00:50:05,960 --> 00:50:09,350 and, er, he said good luck to me and he left. 645 00:50:10,080 --> 00:50:13,595 ♪ I swam upon the Devil's lake 646 00:50:14,440 --> 00:50:17,557 ♪ But never, never never never... 647 00:50:17,600 --> 00:50:20,876 We didn't even talk about what had happened to him over there, 648 00:50:21,720 --> 00:50:26,191 because we felt, like, when the time was right he would open up to us. 649 00:50:30,560 --> 00:50:34,678 I did not receive any telephone calls from the family 650 00:50:34,720 --> 00:50:37,518 saying, you know, "Nicholas is back. 651 00:50:37,560 --> 00:50:39,869 Please come over and talk to us. We need help." 652 00:50:40,880 --> 00:50:42,677 And I felt like it was imperative 653 00:50:42,720 --> 00:50:44,073 that he be interviewed quickly. 654 00:50:45,840 --> 00:50:50,391 So I'd agreed to meet Nicholas at the San Antonio missing children's centre 655 00:50:50,440 --> 00:50:52,237 to conduct our first interview. 656 00:50:53,080 --> 00:50:56,550 I introduced myself to Nicholas and then told him why I was there, 657 00:50:56,600 --> 00:51:01,435 and that the purpose of this interview was to get his account of his kidnapping 658 00:51:01,480 --> 00:51:04,438 and for his assistance in locating his abductors. 659 00:51:05,800 --> 00:51:06,994 All I knew about Nicholas 660 00:51:07,040 --> 00:51:09,713 was what I had read on some of the missing posters. 661 00:51:10,720 --> 00:51:13,393 Not that people can't change in three years, 662 00:51:13,440 --> 00:51:16,637 but this person in general did not appear to be 16. 663 00:51:17,560 --> 00:51:20,836 He had a shadow of a beard, a dark beard, 664 00:51:21,080 --> 00:51:26,200 that I doubt if Nicholas would have had a shadow of a dark beard at the age of 16 665 00:51:26,240 --> 00:51:27,992 since he had blond hair. 666 00:51:28,040 --> 00:51:30,076 He appeared to be quite nervous 667 00:51:30,120 --> 00:51:34,113 and he just seemed very uncomfortable this entire time. 668 00:51:39,160 --> 00:51:44,439 I told them that, um, I was taken by military overseas 669 00:51:44,480 --> 00:51:46,710 and I was abducted and put in a van, 670 00:51:46,760 --> 00:51:50,196 then fly over to some places that I never knew where it was. 671 00:51:50,920 --> 00:51:55,596 That, er, we were kept in a room with different kids. 672 00:51:55,640 --> 00:51:56,789 They'd get chloroformed, 673 00:51:56,840 --> 00:52:00,071 and, er, they wake up and they're, er... 674 00:52:00,120 --> 00:52:03,749 you know, in a place they don't know where they're at. 675 00:52:04,200 --> 00:52:11,276 They were subjected by high-ranking military to sexual abuse. 676 00:52:11,680 --> 00:52:14,558 Every night all of the kids were raped and molested by men. 677 00:52:14,920 --> 00:52:17,434 These men were American, Mexican and European. 678 00:52:17,480 --> 00:52:22,918 They broke my hands, especially my right hand, with a baseball bat. 679 00:52:22,960 --> 00:52:25,679 They kept burning him and giving him insects to eat. 680 00:52:25,720 --> 00:52:27,836 - We were tortured. - They broke his fingers. 681 00:52:27,880 --> 00:52:30,633 - His left foot was broken with a crowbar. - I was raped. 682 00:52:30,680 --> 00:52:36,118 They keep these kids in line by doing military scare tactics. 683 00:52:36,160 --> 00:52:37,479 We were experimented on. 684 00:52:37,520 --> 00:52:39,670 They would put needles in his eyes. 685 00:52:39,720 --> 00:52:44,840 Headphones on their heads screaming and yelling, er, different languages. 686 00:52:44,880 --> 00:52:48,873 Spanish kept playing over and over and a voice kept saying, "You are not you." 687 00:52:48,920 --> 00:52:50,876 If he spoke English, he was beaten. 688 00:52:50,920 --> 00:52:54,993 They moved these kids around in military planes. 689 00:52:55,040 --> 00:52:56,996 We never saw where we were going. 690 00:52:57,040 --> 00:53:00,510 The boys' identities were changed by either changing their hair colour, 691 00:53:00,560 --> 00:53:02,755 eye colour or other ways. 692 00:53:02,800 --> 00:53:04,153 They were always in uniform. 693 00:53:04,200 --> 00:53:05,872 A solution was put in his eyes. 694 00:53:05,920 --> 00:53:07,831 They would sell him for money for sex. 695 00:53:07,880 --> 00:53:11,555 His eye colour was changed from blue to brown by the use of this solution. 696 00:53:11,600 --> 00:53:14,433 The door wasn't shut and I left by that door. 697 00:53:14,480 --> 00:53:17,438 I ran in the big hallway and there was another door. 698 00:53:18,320 --> 00:53:20,231 Somehow I managed to go outside 699 00:53:20,280 --> 00:53:22,555 and outside I ran, I ran, I ran 700 00:53:22,600 --> 00:53:26,513 and hours after that l, I discovered that I was in Spain. 701 00:53:44,760 --> 00:53:46,751 (Ringing tone) 702 00:53:57,200 --> 00:54:00,590 We've got a kid here which is about 14, 15 years old. 703 00:54:00,640 --> 00:54:01,959 He doesn't have no ID. 704 00:54:02,000 --> 00:54:04,833 He's no documents on him but you can see he's very young. 705 00:54:04,880 --> 00:54:06,791 And he's very scared. 706 00:54:10,840 --> 00:54:15,118 She was professional but you could see that she was horrified. 707 00:54:15,760 --> 00:54:20,038 This was a horrendous interview and when I left I was shaken by it 708 00:54:20,080 --> 00:54:23,868 because it had all the horrific, emotional side effects 709 00:54:23,920 --> 00:54:26,309 that go with listening to such a story. 710 00:54:26,360 --> 00:54:29,830 He knew about this type of activity. 711 00:54:29,880 --> 00:54:33,111 I mean, a normal person doesn't sit down with a story 712 00:54:33,160 --> 00:54:35,151 and make up horrendous... 713 00:54:35,680 --> 00:54:37,238 that's not what you lie about. 714 00:54:37,280 --> 00:54:41,876 You don't go into detail about torture and the murdering of children or whatever. 715 00:54:41,920 --> 00:54:43,148 None of that seemed normal. 716 00:54:43,200 --> 00:54:44,872 He was tortured. 717 00:54:44,920 --> 00:54:46,638 I mean, he had torture written all... 718 00:54:46,680 --> 00:54:50,958 He had a broken hand that was never medically attended to, 719 00:54:51,000 --> 00:54:52,592 he walked with a limp, 720 00:54:52,640 --> 00:54:58,510 erm, he had cigarette burns down the back of his head to the back of his ankles. 721 00:54:58,560 --> 00:55:03,554 This person is either, erm, had been the victim himself 722 00:55:03,640 --> 00:55:07,110 or he was a fantastic actor 723 00:55:07,160 --> 00:55:10,072 and I didn't know which of those titles applied to him. 724 00:55:11,560 --> 00:55:14,438 I let them know that I was very sorry about what had happened 725 00:55:14,480 --> 00:55:16,914 and we were going to locate the people who had done this 726 00:55:16,960 --> 00:55:19,793 and put an end to the trauma that he had been through. 727 00:55:24,200 --> 00:55:26,555 This was the last border. 728 00:55:27,000 --> 00:55:29,594 It's like you... 729 00:55:29,640 --> 00:55:31,995 I won. You know, the game is over. 730 00:55:33,400 --> 00:55:36,949 I had passports, everybody in the family say I am Nicholas Barclay. 731 00:55:37,480 --> 00:55:39,471 Nobody was investigating me. 732 00:55:40,720 --> 00:55:43,359 Nobody was suspicious that I know. 733 00:55:46,600 --> 00:55:48,875 Hell, I was happy. 734 00:55:48,920 --> 00:55:51,434 I was, you know... I couldn't believe my luck. 735 00:55:57,680 --> 00:56:00,638 My name is Charlie Parker. I'm a private investigator. 736 00:56:00,680 --> 00:56:02,716 Hey, how are you doin'? 737 00:56:02,760 --> 00:56:05,228 Say, I want you... I want you to do something for me. 738 00:56:06,520 --> 00:56:10,354 ♪ I know dark clouds are gonna gather around me 739 00:56:10,400 --> 00:56:14,473 ♪ I know my way'll be rough and steep 740 00:56:14,520 --> 00:56:18,195 ♪ Yet beautiful fields lie just before me... 741 00:56:18,240 --> 00:56:24,679 I got a call back in November and, erm, from a television producer for Hard Copy 742 00:56:24,720 --> 00:56:26,711 and he said that a boy 743 00:56:26,760 --> 00:56:30,639 who had been missing earlier for four years had turned up 744 00:56:30,680 --> 00:56:34,434 and he wanted me to track him down so they could get an interview with him. 745 00:56:36,120 --> 00:56:39,510 First I had to find out where his mother lived. 746 00:56:39,560 --> 00:56:45,112 Found her and then we drove out to the north of San Antonio to do the interview. 747 00:56:51,480 --> 00:56:55,758 I had repeatedly asked him, please do not contact the media. 748 00:56:55,800 --> 00:56:58,712 If anything that Nicholas was telling us was true, 749 00:56:58,760 --> 00:57:00,796 if any of it had any accuracy, 750 00:57:00,840 --> 00:57:03,798 and if there was any military officer possibly involved, 751 00:57:03,840 --> 00:57:06,308 the last thing that we wanted it to be put 752 00:57:06,360 --> 00:57:08,920 was on the front page of the newspaper or on television 753 00:57:08,960 --> 00:57:12,589 so that that abductor would know something about our investigation. 754 00:57:14,880 --> 00:57:17,075 This is Eyewitness News at 10. 755 00:57:17,640 --> 00:57:20,234 He disappeared without a trace three years ago. 756 00:57:20,280 --> 00:57:22,635 Tonight a San Antonio boy is back home. 757 00:57:22,680 --> 00:57:25,274 Nicholas Barclay is now 16 years old. 758 00:57:25,320 --> 00:57:26,833 He vanished when he was 13... 759 00:57:26,880 --> 00:57:28,279 Nicholas says he was kidnapped 760 00:57:28,320 --> 00:57:29,469 and taken to Spain. 761 00:57:29,560 --> 00:57:32,916 He says for three years he was repeatedly drugged, beaten and raped, 762 00:57:32,960 --> 00:57:36,714 all part of a sex slave operation involving dozens of missing children. 763 00:57:36,760 --> 00:57:39,479 Well, Bob, the FBI is not taking this case lightly... 764 00:57:39,520 --> 00:57:40,555 The reason? 765 00:57:40,600 --> 00:57:43,160 Somehow a 13-year-old boy from San Antonio 766 00:57:43,200 --> 00:57:46,112 ended up in Spain without a passport. 767 00:57:46,160 --> 00:57:49,914 June 19th 1994, Nicholas got into a fight with his family, 768 00:57:49,960 --> 00:57:52,793 so he came here to Fort Sam Houston to play basketball. 769 00:57:52,840 --> 00:57:55,229 Two young boys approached him, they started talking. 770 00:57:55,280 --> 00:57:59,159 The next thing he knew, there was a cloth over his mouth and Nicholas passed out. 771 00:58:00,320 --> 00:58:02,276 He claims his captors changed his appearance 772 00:58:02,320 --> 00:58:04,038 to make him unrecognisable. 773 00:58:04,120 --> 00:58:06,315 He was no longer allowed to speak English. 774 00:58:06,360 --> 00:58:08,351 Did they rape you all every night? 775 00:58:09,160 --> 00:58:10,479 Me? No. 776 00:58:10,520 --> 00:58:13,956 Because they didn't rape me every night. 777 00:58:14,000 --> 00:58:16,070 Some of them, they liked more. 778 00:58:16,120 --> 00:58:17,599 Some of the kids they liked more. 779 00:58:17,640 --> 00:58:21,679 They rape them usually two or three times a week. 780 00:58:21,880 --> 00:58:26,670 I wanted the media's attention, so that I would make Nicholas even more real, 781 00:58:26,720 --> 00:58:30,110 that people would really believe that I'm Nicholas 782 00:58:30,760 --> 00:58:33,593 and they would love me even more for that. 783 00:58:35,200 --> 00:58:38,988 They set him up, put a microphone on him and had the cameras on him 784 00:58:39,040 --> 00:58:41,793 and I moved over behind a booth. 785 00:58:41,840 --> 00:58:43,831 And it was almost fate. 786 00:58:44,200 --> 00:58:46,873 Behind that booth was a picture 787 00:58:46,920 --> 00:58:48,911 of the actual Nicholas Barclay. 788 00:58:49,600 --> 00:58:53,559 And I could look at that picture and look at him at the same time. 789 00:58:53,840 --> 00:58:58,630 And as I looked at the picture, I noticed that the boy had blue-grey-looking eyes 790 00:58:58,680 --> 00:59:00,591 and this man had brown eyes. 791 00:59:02,680 --> 00:59:05,558 Here was a moment where the hair stood up on the back of your neck, 792 00:59:05,600 --> 00:59:08,512 and, and er...there was just something wrong about it. 793 00:59:08,960 --> 00:59:10,996 I did what they wanted me to do. 794 00:59:11,040 --> 00:59:14,316 Something was wrong. I said, "Can you get me a picture of his ears?" 795 00:59:14,360 --> 00:59:15,998 I need to get...get that. 796 00:59:16,040 --> 00:59:22,912 And I had read about Scotland Yard using that method to trace down a man, 797 00:59:23,360 --> 00:59:26,272 James Earl Ray, that had killed Martin Luther King. 798 00:59:26,320 --> 00:59:29,596 They had caught him in Heathrow Airport by identifying his ears. 799 00:59:29,640 --> 00:59:35,909 And I knew the ears were a means of identity, almost like fingerprints. 800 00:59:37,880 --> 00:59:40,235 I put the picture in my pocket and took it... 801 00:59:42,040 --> 00:59:43,359 When I got back to the office, 802 00:59:43,400 --> 00:59:45,709 I put the pictures in Adobe Photoshop. 803 00:59:54,440 --> 00:59:56,078 They, they were different ears. 804 00:59:56,120 --> 00:59:57,712 And so I knew right away 805 00:59:57,760 --> 01:00:01,116 that absolutely he was not Nicholas Barclay. 806 01:00:02,200 --> 01:00:04,475 I thought I had a spy. 807 01:00:04,520 --> 01:00:07,034 I thought I had real, honest to God spy. 808 01:00:07,440 --> 01:00:12,116 Why else would a guy come here and take the place of another person? 809 01:00:12,160 --> 01:00:13,479 What would be his reason? 810 01:00:15,800 --> 01:00:17,791 I phoned Nancy Fisher. 811 01:00:18,600 --> 01:00:21,353 I said, "This guy's a fake. It's not him." 812 01:00:21,400 --> 01:00:22,992 I said, "The ears don't match." 813 01:00:23,040 --> 01:00:24,519 And my comment to him was, 814 01:00:26,320 --> 01:00:27,548 "You need to be very careful 815 01:00:27,600 --> 01:00:30,034 that you don't intrude on the federal investigation." 816 01:00:30,320 --> 01:00:33,551 People aren't used to hearing you talk about somebody's ears 817 01:00:33,600 --> 01:00:36,956 and I think she was taken back by that. She didn't know what I was talking about. 818 01:00:37,000 --> 01:00:39,514 I thought I didn't have a right to question, 819 01:00:39,560 --> 01:00:42,279 you know, their statement that this was their family member 820 01:00:42,320 --> 01:00:45,153 because how, how could they be wrong? 821 01:00:45,200 --> 01:00:47,794 I mean, no-one would be wrong about something like that. 822 01:00:47,840 --> 01:00:51,276 What do they want? I've already got the fact he doesn't have the same ears. 823 01:00:51,720 --> 01:00:54,871 Why would you ever, ever take in a stranger? 824 01:00:54,920 --> 01:00:56,831 Not just a stranger from this country 825 01:00:56,880 --> 01:01:00,236 but a stranger from another country who speaks with a French accent. 826 01:01:00,280 --> 01:01:02,350 This has to be Nicholas Barclay. 827 01:01:04,640 --> 01:01:06,949 It was an outrageous thing. 828 01:01:07,680 --> 01:01:11,798 I cannot have talked to anyone that hasn't read about this 829 01:01:11,840 --> 01:01:17,039 that has said, "Wait a minute. I know my own kid. I know my own son. 830 01:01:17,120 --> 01:01:19,156 I can look in his eyes and tell..." 831 01:01:19,200 --> 01:01:23,079 It's like when you go to a class reunion 832 01:01:23,120 --> 01:01:25,793 and you see the kids you went to school with in 19... 833 01:01:36,320 --> 01:01:38,311 ♪ DAVID BOWIE: Queen Bitch 834 01:01:46,280 --> 01:01:50,319 It really began for me, the American dream, when I took that big yellow bus 835 01:01:50,360 --> 01:01:53,557 to go to school with others, with other students. 836 01:01:53,600 --> 01:01:57,957 ♪ I'm up on the 11th floor and I'm watching the cruisers below 837 01:01:59,240 --> 01:02:04,268 How many French adults go to American schools for kids, 838 01:02:04,320 --> 01:02:05,594 into a yellow bus... 839 01:02:07,160 --> 01:02:09,116 ♪ My heart's in the basement 840 01:02:09,160 --> 01:02:12,391 ♪ My weekend's at an all-time low 841 01:02:12,440 --> 01:02:16,115 That was impossible. You could do that in a movie, you could do that in a... 842 01:02:16,160 --> 01:02:17,752 but you can't do that for real. 843 01:02:18,040 --> 01:02:19,473 ♪ Letting him go 844 01:02:19,520 --> 01:02:20,953 ♪ Walk out of her heart 845 01:02:21,000 --> 01:02:22,592 ♪ Walk out of her mind... 846 01:02:25,200 --> 01:02:29,591 I finally succeeded to become a kid again, officially, with a passport, 847 01:02:29,640 --> 01:02:31,119 to have a second chance, 848 01:02:31,160 --> 01:02:35,039 to be able this time to go to school and to succeed this time. 849 01:02:35,840 --> 01:02:36,955 (School bell) 850 01:02:37,000 --> 01:02:38,991 ♪ Oh, yeah 851 01:02:40,560 --> 01:02:42,551 ♪ She's an old-time ambassador 852 01:02:42,600 --> 01:02:45,239 ♪ Of sweet-talking, night-walking games 853 01:02:47,800 --> 01:02:50,234 CHARLIE: Well, he started back to high school. 854 01:02:50,280 --> 01:02:51,395 I really was worried. 855 01:02:51,440 --> 01:02:53,874 I didn't know what he was going to do. 856 01:02:53,920 --> 01:02:56,434 This was a case. I mean, a real case. 857 01:02:57,200 --> 01:03:00,158 This guy was lying about who he said he was 858 01:03:00,200 --> 01:03:02,191 and here the family was accepting him. 859 01:03:02,240 --> 01:03:06,233 I expected him any day to blow up something at the airbase 860 01:03:06,280 --> 01:03:08,635 or do something at the army base. 861 01:03:11,640 --> 01:03:15,315 I was pulling teeth trying to determine who had kidnapped Nicholas, 862 01:03:15,360 --> 01:03:17,590 when and where and under what circumstances. 863 01:03:18,360 --> 01:03:20,237 I had almost no information 864 01:03:20,280 --> 01:03:23,397 because all the information he gave us was very, very general. 865 01:03:23,440 --> 01:03:25,795 He couldn't give names, he couldn't give places, 866 01:03:25,840 --> 01:03:28,115 he couldn't give times, he couldn't give anything. 867 01:03:29,600 --> 01:03:33,878 The family was told that the reason we were taking Nicholas to Houston 868 01:03:33,920 --> 01:03:35,751 was because he'd been through trauma. 869 01:03:35,800 --> 01:03:39,998 So he deserved to see a forensic expert to deal with the trauma. 870 01:03:44,640 --> 01:03:48,713 Initially I thought that this was going to be a forensic interview, 871 01:03:48,760 --> 01:03:52,639 er, with the intent of finding out more information 872 01:03:52,680 --> 01:03:54,557 about the people who abducted him. 873 01:03:57,960 --> 01:04:04,433 Here was this pale white kid and I introduced myself 874 01:04:04,480 --> 01:04:08,632 and, as he spoke back, immediately my... 875 01:04:08,680 --> 01:04:10,830 Something in me just said, this is not right, 876 01:04:10,880 --> 01:04:12,393 there's something wrong here. 877 01:04:12,440 --> 01:04:14,590 I speak with him for a long time. 878 01:04:14,640 --> 01:04:18,349 He asked me to repeat all the stories I'd been telling everybody. 879 01:04:18,400 --> 01:04:21,631 I remember people grabbing me and putting me in the van. 880 01:04:21,680 --> 01:04:26,117 I went to sleep and I woke up in a room. There was other kids... 881 01:04:26,160 --> 01:04:29,232 I didn't see the same physiological change 882 01:04:29,280 --> 01:04:35,958 in his body posture, in his pupil size, in his heart rate, 883 01:04:36,000 --> 01:04:37,399 that I would normally see 884 01:04:37,440 --> 01:04:40,432 with somebody who's talking about a traumatic experience. 885 01:04:45,560 --> 01:04:49,519 He couldn't speak English without an accent. 886 01:04:49,560 --> 01:04:54,315 That told me about the development of his brain, and the development of language. 887 01:04:56,360 --> 01:05:01,559 You just cannot be raised for the first six, seven years of your life 888 01:05:01,600 --> 01:05:05,798 in an English-speaking home 889 01:05:05,840 --> 01:05:10,231 and later on, you know, eight, nine years later, 890 01:05:10,280 --> 01:05:13,113 even 10 years later, 891 01:05:13,160 --> 01:05:15,720 not be able to speak English without an accent. 892 01:05:18,080 --> 01:05:23,154 I can guarantee you that this kid was not raised in an English-speaking family. 893 01:05:24,800 --> 01:05:28,076 You know, I don't know who he is but the person who was...I was interviewing 894 01:05:28,120 --> 01:05:30,156 could not have been Nicholas Barclay. 895 01:05:32,400 --> 01:05:35,915 OK, the worst scenario just showed up and I don't like that. 896 01:05:37,200 --> 01:05:39,509 This investigation did a 90 degree. 897 01:05:39,560 --> 01:05:43,030 It just went from one, one place all the way up to another. 898 01:05:43,600 --> 01:05:46,353 I immediately called Carey Gibson and I said to her, 899 01:05:46,400 --> 01:05:50,359 "Carey, Dr Perry has just stated that this person cannot be your brother, 900 01:05:50,400 --> 01:05:52,789 for the fact that he cannot be an American. 901 01:05:54,120 --> 01:05:56,680 This could be a very dangerous person." 902 01:05:58,360 --> 01:06:03,150 She shrieked or screamed and said, "Oh, my gosh!" 903 01:06:05,320 --> 01:06:07,595 So I said, "Don't be at the airport," you know. 904 01:06:07,640 --> 01:06:10,359 "I'll handle it. I will take care of this individual" 905 01:06:10,400 --> 01:06:12,709 and that she did not have to take him home, 906 01:06:12,760 --> 01:06:14,796 you know, back to her home to live with them 907 01:06:14,840 --> 01:06:17,149 and she says, "OK, OK." 908 01:06:21,840 --> 01:06:27,995 We fly back into San Antonio and there's Carey standing there. 909 01:06:29,360 --> 01:06:30,395 What? 910 01:06:34,520 --> 01:06:37,273 She acted like we'd never had that conversation. 911 01:06:37,320 --> 01:06:41,393 And she acted excited to see him, asked him how his trip was. 912 01:06:42,240 --> 01:06:44,310 I think I just stared for a minute... 913 01:06:45,640 --> 01:06:48,791 And I called the US Attorneys' Office right then and there 914 01:06:48,840 --> 01:06:50,751 and I said, "What do I do?" 915 01:06:51,880 --> 01:06:56,795 And the Assistant US Attorney said, "Let him return to her temporarily." 916 01:06:58,240 --> 01:07:01,391 She welcomed this person home just like he was her brother. 917 01:07:01,440 --> 01:07:05,228 I didn't have any clue as to why she behaved in this manner. 918 01:07:05,600 --> 01:07:07,795 Because in my conversation with her, 919 01:07:07,840 --> 01:07:10,479 I had said, "This person is not your brother." 920 01:07:11,440 --> 01:07:15,274 I don't think... I don't remember her putting it in those words. 921 01:07:15,320 --> 01:07:18,630 Well, maybe they wanted him so badly to be their son 922 01:07:18,680 --> 01:07:20,398 that they said he was their son, 923 01:07:20,440 --> 01:07:23,034 but it was starting to get ridiculous. 924 01:07:27,040 --> 01:07:30,589 I couldn't let it go. There was no way in the world I could let it go. 925 01:07:32,200 --> 01:07:34,509 I started going into the neighbourhood, 926 01:07:34,560 --> 01:07:36,551 and finding out about the real Nicholas Barclay, 927 01:07:36,600 --> 01:07:38,238 interviewing the neighbours, 928 01:07:38,280 --> 01:07:41,511 trying to find out what I could about that boy 929 01:07:41,560 --> 01:07:43,232 and about that family. 930 01:07:43,280 --> 01:07:45,032 And what's going on? 931 01:07:45,080 --> 01:07:47,196 You know, why would Nicholas have left? 932 01:07:47,240 --> 01:07:50,118 The police used to usually come 933 01:07:50,160 --> 01:07:54,472 maybe like twice or three times a month. 934 01:07:55,840 --> 01:07:57,432 Either it was argument with the kids 935 01:07:57,480 --> 01:08:00,677 or with their boyfriend or with the other son. 936 01:08:00,720 --> 01:08:07,319 I spoke to everyone and they all said that Nicholas had caused trouble, 937 01:08:07,360 --> 01:08:09,078 had come home late at night. 938 01:08:09,120 --> 01:08:11,350 We've all had arguments in our family, 939 01:08:11,400 --> 01:08:13,197 but it's rare that we call the police, 940 01:08:13,240 --> 01:08:15,276 that it is so bad that they have to come. 941 01:08:16,000 --> 01:08:18,753 It, it made me think there was something going on, 942 01:08:18,800 --> 01:08:20,916 more than meets the eye. Of course it did. 943 01:08:26,080 --> 01:08:29,755 I knew that DNA samples would prove that he wasn't Nicholas Barclay. 944 01:08:34,480 --> 01:08:36,755 Mrs Dollarhide said, "This is my son. 945 01:08:36,800 --> 01:08:39,872 I don't have to provide blood samples for you for DNA 946 01:08:39,920 --> 01:08:41,478 and she laid down on the floor, 947 01:08:41,520 --> 01:08:43,511 literally laid down on the floor, 948 01:08:44,160 --> 01:08:46,833 and said, "No, and you can't pick me up, and you can't make me." 949 01:08:47,240 --> 01:08:52,314 I did not want to go anywhere with the FBI, but I don't remember refusing. 950 01:08:52,800 --> 01:08:55,155 I was stunned. I've never had that reaction before. 951 01:08:55,200 --> 01:08:57,589 She wasn't just apathetic, she was hostile. 952 01:08:59,320 --> 01:09:03,836 To be honest with you, I really have no idea what I was thinking at that time. 953 01:09:03,880 --> 01:09:08,396 My main goal in life was not, not to think. 954 01:09:10,680 --> 01:09:13,478 We didn't need to prove who he was. We knew who he was. 955 01:09:16,200 --> 01:09:21,399 I no longer saw them as a grieving erm... victimised family. 956 01:09:21,440 --> 01:09:24,318 I saw them as a very questionable family. 957 01:09:24,840 --> 01:09:29,436 There would be no reason for them to accept a stranger into their lives... 958 01:09:30,840 --> 01:09:33,035 ..unless there was something to hide. 959 01:09:33,080 --> 01:09:34,832 That would be the only reason. 960 01:09:34,880 --> 01:09:37,838 Something was being hidden and I didn't know what that was. 961 01:09:47,120 --> 01:09:50,635 When Beverly refused to give her blood sample, 962 01:09:50,680 --> 01:09:53,638 I started to become suspicious. 963 01:09:53,680 --> 01:09:56,513 They knew that I wasn't Nicholas. 964 01:09:58,280 --> 01:10:00,316 Whatever I was telling them, 965 01:10:02,400 --> 01:10:04,277 they didn't believe a word of it. 966 01:10:04,320 --> 01:10:06,038 But they were good at not showing it. 967 01:10:08,040 --> 01:10:12,033 I mean, who wouldn't see it? 968 01:10:14,240 --> 01:10:17,118 That's about four, five years ago now. 969 01:10:17,200 --> 01:10:20,556 I remember in Spain, Carey did everything for me. 970 01:10:22,840 --> 01:10:24,671 When I didn't know something, she told me. 971 01:10:25,840 --> 01:10:28,479 "You forgot everything but you're going to remember it now 972 01:10:28,520 --> 01:10:33,469 and, you know, this was Mom at the place we're living in with... Do you remember? 973 01:10:33,520 --> 01:10:37,752 Oh, this was Chantelle. You remember Chantelle. That's your niece, my daughter. 974 01:10:37,800 --> 01:10:40,997 Do you remember that? Do you remember that? Do you remember that?" 975 01:10:41,040 --> 01:10:42,871 Over and over and over again. 976 01:10:42,920 --> 01:10:44,069 That's Jason. 977 01:10:44,120 --> 01:10:46,759 She wanted to put it in my head. 978 01:10:46,800 --> 01:10:49,553 She wanted to put it in my head so I would never forget. 979 01:10:50,600 --> 01:10:53,558 She just could not say it's not Nicholas. 980 01:10:53,600 --> 01:10:55,431 Did she believe it or not? 981 01:10:55,480 --> 01:10:56,754 If you asked me, I would say, 982 01:10:56,800 --> 01:10:59,360 no, not for a second did she believe I was her brother. 983 01:11:00,400 --> 01:11:02,550 She decided I was gonna be her brother. 984 01:11:04,240 --> 01:11:06,470 It's like I woke up in a place where... 985 01:11:08,040 --> 01:11:10,270 Lies even bigger than what I did. 986 01:11:10,320 --> 01:11:11,833 You know, it's... 987 01:11:12,640 --> 01:11:17,350 they pretended as much as I did and even more. 988 01:11:25,200 --> 01:11:28,431 I kept thinking about the kid, Nicholas Barclay. 989 01:11:38,480 --> 01:11:39,833 At the time of his disappearance, 990 01:11:39,880 --> 01:11:43,236 he was living with Beverly in the house on Swallow Street 991 01:11:43,280 --> 01:11:46,192 and his brother Jason was also living there. 992 01:11:52,240 --> 01:11:53,514 Jason, Nick's older brother, 993 01:11:53,560 --> 01:11:55,198 when he moved into their house, 994 01:11:55,240 --> 01:11:56,434 that house changed, 995 01:11:56,480 --> 01:11:57,799 because before he got there, 996 01:11:57,840 --> 01:11:59,034 Nick and his mom 997 01:11:59,080 --> 01:12:00,752 seemed pretty close to me. 998 01:12:02,040 --> 01:12:03,598 She loved him to death. 999 01:12:03,640 --> 01:12:08,236 I mean, she loved him, you could tell... She, she... He was the light of her life. 1000 01:12:09,200 --> 01:12:12,510 This guy moved in, he was a bum, a drug addict 1001 01:12:12,600 --> 01:12:14,079 and he only cared about himself. 1002 01:12:14,160 --> 01:12:17,709 And when he got into that house, it just made things that much more worse. 1003 01:12:17,760 --> 01:12:21,753 In fact, I think it even pushed his mom into doing drugs herself 1004 01:12:21,800 --> 01:12:23,358 when he moved into the house. 1005 01:12:23,400 --> 01:12:26,392 That house just became a volatile situation altogether. 1006 01:12:30,080 --> 01:12:31,638 I discovered from the police files, 1007 01:12:31,680 --> 01:12:34,148 a couple of months after the disappearance, 1008 01:12:34,720 --> 01:12:36,995 that Jason had called the police 1009 01:12:37,040 --> 01:12:40,635 and said that his brother had tried to break into the house. 1010 01:12:43,720 --> 01:12:45,915 Well, we see that kind of thing all the time. 1011 01:12:45,960 --> 01:12:49,077 People, people are constantly doing stuff like that 1012 01:12:49,120 --> 01:12:52,237 to make people think that person's alive. 1013 01:12:55,600 --> 01:12:57,113 I started to put two and two together 1014 01:12:57,160 --> 01:12:59,993 and I thought something happened inside that house to that boy. 1015 01:13:07,600 --> 01:13:10,512 I didn't need to be Columbo to put all the pieces together. 1016 01:13:12,680 --> 01:13:14,671 They killed him. 1017 01:13:15,320 --> 01:13:19,154 Some of them did it, some of them knew of it, and some of them chose to ignore it. 1018 01:13:25,640 --> 01:13:28,279 I wasn't worried about Nicholas coming back no more. 1019 01:13:32,320 --> 01:13:35,551 Neither Nicholas Barclay or his mother were cooperating, 1020 01:13:35,600 --> 01:13:38,797 so we were going to have to have a search warrant executed 1021 01:13:38,840 --> 01:13:41,400 in order to obtain those blood samples. 1022 01:13:43,280 --> 01:13:47,671 I couldn't pretend no more to be Nicholas and act like Nicholas. 1023 01:13:48,880 --> 01:13:52,190 I took two or three other agents with me to go pick him up. 1024 01:13:53,760 --> 01:13:59,710 So inside me, I started getting, you know, more and more aggressive, 1025 01:14:00,280 --> 01:14:01,508 weird. 1026 01:14:02,000 --> 01:14:03,558 I couldn't go on. 1027 01:14:04,320 --> 01:14:07,118 We got the fingerprints and we got the palm prints. 1028 01:14:07,160 --> 01:14:10,869 Within a few weeks, we would be sending them out to Interpol, to the embassies, 1029 01:14:10,920 --> 01:14:12,797 to see if any of these fingerprints 1030 01:14:12,840 --> 01:14:15,593 matched anything that they had on record. 1031 01:14:15,640 --> 01:14:17,358 I was trying to find a way out, 1032 01:14:17,440 --> 01:14:20,318 not only a way out in San Antonio, Texas, 1033 01:14:20,360 --> 01:14:22,476 but a way out, out of my mind. 1034 01:14:23,000 --> 01:14:26,231 Nicholas was becoming much more agitated and angry 1035 01:14:26,280 --> 01:14:28,999 and I really felt like he was going to run away 1036 01:14:29,040 --> 01:14:32,032 and if he ran away we might have a very hard time locating him. 1037 01:14:32,840 --> 01:14:35,400 I started tailing him, I started following him. 1038 01:14:35,440 --> 01:14:38,830 I started sitting up on Beverly's place where she lived 1039 01:14:38,880 --> 01:14:42,873 and writing down licence numbers of all the cars that came to her, to see her. 1040 01:14:44,720 --> 01:14:48,633 So I took a razor blade and I slit my face. 1041 01:14:48,680 --> 01:14:51,717 Everything was snowballing and snowballing and snowballing. 1042 01:14:51,760 --> 01:14:55,275 I show them, show them that 1043 01:14:55,320 --> 01:14:57,754 I was under a great deal of pressure. 1044 01:14:57,800 --> 01:14:59,756 On March 3rd of 1998, 1045 01:14:59,800 --> 01:15:03,395 the legate in Madrid, Spain, called me 1046 01:15:03,440 --> 01:15:06,113 and he said, "We've just identified him." 1047 01:15:06,160 --> 01:15:07,593 And I said, "You're kidding?" 1048 01:15:07,640 --> 01:15:12,555 I knew that everything was going down and it was just a matter of weeks. 1049 01:15:12,600 --> 01:15:17,355 He said, "What I'm gonna do right now is fax to you the records that I have." 1050 01:15:19,280 --> 01:15:20,872 CHARLIE: He agreed to meet with me. 1051 01:15:20,920 --> 01:15:22,717 We ordered hot cakes. 1052 01:15:23,160 --> 01:15:25,355 And we started to eat. 1053 01:15:25,400 --> 01:15:27,231 And he said... 1054 01:15:27,280 --> 01:15:29,555 I said, "You really made your mother angry." 1055 01:15:29,600 --> 01:15:32,592 And he said, "She's not my mother and you know it." 1056 01:15:33,520 --> 01:15:35,272 And I thought, well, I'II be damned. 1057 01:15:35,640 --> 01:15:37,790 And so I stood over the fax machine, 1058 01:15:39,480 --> 01:15:41,914 waiting for, of course, them to come in 1059 01:15:41,960 --> 01:15:44,110 because I was screaming and jumping up and down. 1060 01:15:46,200 --> 01:15:48,111 I actually said, "Well, I'll be damned, 1061 01:15:48,160 --> 01:15:50,549 you're going to finally tell me who you are." 1062 01:15:52,720 --> 01:15:56,793 I was like doing a dance and everybody was high-fiving. 1063 01:15:56,840 --> 01:16:00,196 It was like, you know, we finally, we finally know who this person is. 1064 01:16:02,320 --> 01:16:06,518 And my heart was beating fast, just like it is now thinking about it. 1065 01:16:06,560 --> 01:16:09,836 And... And I said, "Who are you?" 1066 01:16:09,880 --> 01:16:12,917 He said, "I'm Frederic Bourdin and I'm wanted by Interpol." 1067 01:16:15,760 --> 01:16:17,478 The fingerprint cards told me 1068 01:16:17,520 --> 01:16:20,717 that he was not 16, he was 23. 1069 01:16:21,320 --> 01:16:23,629 That he was not American, he was French. 1070 01:16:23,880 --> 01:16:26,758 That he was not Nicholas Barclay, he was Frederic Bourdin. 1071 01:16:27,440 --> 01:16:30,273 We grow up in America thinking Interpol 1072 01:16:30,320 --> 01:16:33,756 is kind of the God of the cops. You follow me? 1073 01:16:33,800 --> 01:16:36,268 That's the highest step you can get in "Copland". 1074 01:16:36,320 --> 01:16:38,436 And so I thought, Jesus Christ, 1075 01:16:38,480 --> 01:16:41,711 if he's wanted by Interpol, what has he done? You know. 1076 01:16:41,760 --> 01:16:43,671 There is no limit to what he's done. 1077 01:16:43,720 --> 01:16:45,199 So he began to tell me. 1078 01:16:48,520 --> 01:16:50,556 NANCY: Frederic Bourdin is delinquent. 1079 01:16:50,600 --> 01:16:52,591 Activities and modus operandi... 1080 01:17:01,120 --> 01:17:02,712 He has travelled throughout Europe 1081 01:17:02,760 --> 01:17:04,193 appearing at shelters for minors 1082 01:17:04,240 --> 01:17:05,639 under different aliases. 1083 01:17:06,440 --> 01:17:08,158 Spain, 1992. 1084 01:17:09,560 --> 01:17:11,790 Spain, September 1993. 1085 01:17:12,320 --> 01:17:14,311 (Overlapping voices) 1086 01:17:15,720 --> 01:17:16,709 Barcelona... 1087 01:17:16,760 --> 01:17:19,752 .. stated that he'd run away from his adoptive parents' house. 1088 01:17:19,840 --> 01:17:21,831 Brussels, '95. 1089 01:17:24,000 --> 01:17:25,718 Pyrenees... 1090 01:17:25,760 --> 01:17:27,671 Milan, 1993. 1091 01:17:28,920 --> 01:17:30,069 Glasgow. 1092 01:17:30,120 --> 01:17:32,918 I sat there. I could hardly eat, I could hardly swallow my food. 1093 01:17:38,480 --> 01:17:39,595 He always wore glasses. 1094 01:17:39,640 --> 01:17:41,710 Giovanni Petrullo. 1095 01:17:41,760 --> 01:17:43,751 Michelangelo Martini. 1096 01:17:44,280 --> 01:17:45,315 Donovan MacNeph. 1097 01:17:46,880 --> 01:17:48,233 - Peter Samson. - William Thomas. 1098 01:17:48,280 --> 01:17:49,918 Jimmy Sale. 1099 01:17:49,960 --> 01:17:51,632 Peter Robin. 1100 01:17:51,680 --> 01:17:53,591 James Markey. 1101 01:17:53,640 --> 01:17:54,675 Frederic Cassis. 1102 01:17:54,720 --> 01:17:55,755 '93. 1103 01:17:57,880 --> 01:17:59,108 Hernandez Fernandez. 1104 01:17:59,200 --> 01:18:00,189 '95. 1105 01:18:00,240 --> 01:18:01,355 Edgar Guteyere. 1106 01:18:01,400 --> 01:18:02,628 '97. 1107 01:18:02,680 --> 01:18:04,671 Spain, 1997. 1108 01:18:04,960 --> 01:18:07,235 It's possible he may need psychiatric help. 1109 01:18:11,840 --> 01:18:13,114 Settle in tonight 1110 01:18:13,160 --> 01:18:15,037 because we are about to share with you 1111 01:18:15,080 --> 01:18:16,593 a story so bizarre, 1112 01:18:16,640 --> 01:18:18,631 it's hard to believe it's true. 1113 01:18:18,680 --> 01:18:21,114 This is the tale of a master imposter 1114 01:18:21,160 --> 01:18:24,391 who managed to lie his way into the United States 1115 01:18:24,440 --> 01:18:27,671 and prey upon the most vulnerable of people. 1116 01:18:27,720 --> 01:18:29,711 He is the only person in US history 1117 01:18:29,760 --> 01:18:33,150 ever to have assumed the identity of a missing child. 1118 01:18:33,360 --> 01:18:36,033 He fooled even the lost boy's mother. 1119 01:18:36,080 --> 01:18:38,674 It's hard to imagine how he could have gotten away with it. 1120 01:19:00,720 --> 01:19:04,508 We knew it was going to be, you know, heart-wrenching and... 1121 01:19:05,760 --> 01:19:06,875 you know... 1122 01:19:06,920 --> 01:19:08,831 but we never thought it wouldn't be him. 1123 01:19:09,640 --> 01:19:11,915 You know, why would you even think that? 1124 01:19:11,960 --> 01:19:14,110 The first feeling was complete sadness. 1125 01:19:14,320 --> 01:19:16,709 Because it wasn't Nicholas. 1126 01:19:16,760 --> 01:19:18,671 Which took us back to square one. 1127 01:19:18,720 --> 01:19:20,950 Where is Nicholas? 1128 01:19:21,000 --> 01:19:22,991 That was the first one. 1129 01:19:24,520 --> 01:19:27,193 The second emotion was, 1130 01:19:29,880 --> 01:19:32,599 how could I be so fucking stupid? 1131 01:19:32,640 --> 01:19:34,392 I mean, seriously. 1132 01:19:38,200 --> 01:19:41,749 I contacted the SAPD, the San Antonio Police Department, 1133 01:19:41,800 --> 01:19:45,793 and told them, decided to tell them, that, hey, they killed him. 1134 01:19:49,600 --> 01:19:51,989 Based upon Frederic Bourdin's allegations, 1135 01:19:52,760 --> 01:19:56,196 a homicide investigation was opened 1136 01:19:56,240 --> 01:19:59,789 and the allegation was against the family members 1137 01:19:59,840 --> 01:20:04,197 as being...participating in the disappearance of the child. 1138 01:20:04,240 --> 01:20:08,552 It was related to us that while Frederic was in jail 1139 01:20:08,600 --> 01:20:11,194 that he said that my mom confessed to him 1140 01:20:11,240 --> 01:20:14,073 that her and Jason killed Nicholas and hid the body. 1141 01:20:16,200 --> 01:20:17,679 They accused me first 1142 01:20:20,000 --> 01:20:21,991 and it totally freaked me out. 1143 01:20:23,600 --> 01:20:28,754 Because I, I...have been crazy but never violent. 1144 01:20:30,920 --> 01:20:35,357 This is the street the kid lived on when he went missing. 1145 01:20:41,920 --> 01:20:43,911 There's the house right there. 1146 01:20:47,840 --> 01:20:49,671 I think the boy's buried here. 1147 01:20:52,120 --> 01:20:55,078 I want to talk to Darryl inside. 1148 01:20:55,120 --> 01:21:01,275 He's agreed to let me dig and see if Nicholas Barclay's here. 1149 01:21:03,400 --> 01:21:06,073 If Beverly knew that this individual was not her son, 1150 01:21:06,120 --> 01:21:08,839 then she had to have some type of ulterior motive 1151 01:21:08,880 --> 01:21:12,714 and it had to be something very scary 1152 01:21:12,760 --> 01:21:16,309 for her to accept a stranger into her household 1153 01:21:16,360 --> 01:21:17,759 posing as her own son. 1154 01:21:17,800 --> 01:21:19,836 I agreed to take a lie detector test. 1155 01:21:21,000 --> 01:21:22,991 She passed the polygraph. 1156 01:21:23,920 --> 01:21:26,992 And I said to the polygraph examiner, 1157 01:21:27,040 --> 01:21:28,632 "I don't understand this, 1158 01:21:28,680 --> 01:21:31,274 I don't understand it at all. Will you give it to her again?" 1159 01:21:37,960 --> 01:21:41,236 So he gave it to her again and she passed the polygraph. 1160 01:21:41,280 --> 01:21:44,192 I said, "No, there is something wrong." 1161 01:21:46,520 --> 01:21:48,511 The third time he gave it to her, 1162 01:21:49,680 --> 01:21:50,954 she flunked every question. 1163 01:21:51,000 --> 01:21:52,319 I mean, like, big-time. 1164 01:21:52,360 --> 01:21:56,069 The polygrapher said the machine practically jumped off the table. 1165 01:21:56,840 --> 01:22:00,469 Her answers appeared to be false on everything. 1166 01:22:04,000 --> 01:22:05,558 And he turned to her and he said, 1167 01:22:05,600 --> 01:22:09,832 "Mrs Dollarhide, it appears that you know where your son is. 1168 01:22:09,880 --> 01:22:14,032 It appears that you know what happened to him" and some other questions. 1169 01:22:14,280 --> 01:22:17,238 And that's when she became very aggravated, very agitated, 1170 01:22:17,280 --> 01:22:19,032 jumped up and ran out and was screaming. 1171 01:22:22,240 --> 01:22:26,313 I lied about being...stealing, 1172 01:22:28,400 --> 01:22:31,278 and I had...so that's why I failed. 1173 01:22:32,080 --> 01:22:35,516 I didn't lie about anything to do with Nicholas. 1174 01:22:35,560 --> 01:22:37,391 It was the other questions. 1175 01:22:38,760 --> 01:22:40,557 - Darryl? Charlie Parker. - Mr Parker. 1176 01:22:40,600 --> 01:22:42,591 How are you doin'? 1177 01:22:43,040 --> 01:22:44,189 It's nice in here. 1178 01:22:44,240 --> 01:22:45,639 So this is the house, huh? 1179 01:22:45,680 --> 01:22:46,999 Yes, sir. 1180 01:22:47,040 --> 01:22:52,160 The polygraph led us to believe that she did have some information... 1181 01:22:54,200 --> 01:22:58,159 ..she could provide that she refused to and we felt like Jason had information. 1182 01:22:58,800 --> 01:23:03,191 If Jason did something to Nicholas, I didn't know about it 1183 01:23:03,240 --> 01:23:07,756 and I can't imagine Jason ever doing that. 1184 01:23:07,800 --> 01:23:10,075 It's just not in his makeup, 1185 01:23:13,120 --> 01:23:15,873 but...I don't know. 1186 01:23:16,800 --> 01:23:23,433 I know my brother or my mother did not kill Nicholas, accidentally, on purpose. 1187 01:23:23,480 --> 01:23:25,914 Whatever Frederic said, it never happened. 1188 01:23:26,680 --> 01:23:31,231 When we first got my dog, he was always digging in the back corner over there 1189 01:23:31,280 --> 01:23:32,599 where the, the tree is. 1190 01:23:32,640 --> 01:23:37,191 And one day I was mowing and saw, like, pieces of, like, plastic, 1191 01:23:37,240 --> 01:23:39,549 - kind of like a tarp kind of material... - OK. 1192 01:23:39,600 --> 01:23:42,353 ..sticking out of the ground. I tried to pull it up to get it out, 1193 01:23:42,400 --> 01:23:45,198 and it just kept ripping on me as it was stuck in the ground. 1194 01:23:45,240 --> 01:23:47,708 So I never paid any attention to it or gave it any thought, 1195 01:23:47,760 --> 01:23:50,069 until last night when we were speaking on the phone. 1196 01:23:51,080 --> 01:23:53,196 And the bush has been there a while? 1197 01:23:56,160 --> 01:24:00,039 I had initially tried to get a hold of Jason prior to Frederic's arrest 1198 01:24:00,080 --> 01:24:01,274 and couldn't. 1199 01:24:02,320 --> 01:24:05,118 And then when I finally did get a hold of him, 1200 01:24:05,160 --> 01:24:07,720 I asked him about the disappearance of his brother. 1201 01:24:08,640 --> 01:24:13,668 He just seemed totally apathetic about the disappearance of his younger brother. 1202 01:24:13,720 --> 01:24:15,039 Extremely apathetic. 1203 01:24:15,080 --> 01:24:18,152 And didn't care that he'd been returned 1204 01:24:18,200 --> 01:24:19,474 but when he did see him, 1205 01:24:19,520 --> 01:24:21,078 no, that wasn't his brother, 1206 01:24:21,120 --> 01:24:23,873 but he didn't seem interested enough or excited enough 1207 01:24:23,920 --> 01:24:26,798 to tell his mother and sister, "That's not my brother. 1208 01:24:26,840 --> 01:24:29,354 No, no, they just wanted to believe." 1209 01:24:29,920 --> 01:24:32,514 Yeah, it's a good spot. Let's see. 1210 01:24:32,560 --> 01:24:34,551 Say he dumps him here first... 1211 01:24:36,160 --> 01:24:38,879 ..and then, if he looks up, 1212 01:24:40,360 --> 01:24:43,113 yeah, yeah, this is good, this is good. 1213 01:24:43,160 --> 01:24:46,869 He was very hostile, refused to help in any way, 1214 01:24:46,920 --> 01:24:50,754 and then he later left the drug rehabilitation centre 1215 01:24:50,800 --> 01:24:54,156 and was found having died from a drug overdose. 1216 01:24:54,560 --> 01:24:58,269 I think that Jason became a perfect scapegoat because he's not here. 1217 01:24:59,440 --> 01:25:01,954 He died, 1218 01:25:02,000 --> 01:25:06,835 so he can't be questioned or, you know, anything. 1219 01:25:08,920 --> 01:25:11,718 I mean, he can't, he can't even defend himself. 1220 01:25:20,480 --> 01:25:23,472 It's kinda like a nightmare. 1221 01:25:23,760 --> 01:25:28,709 AII this stuff is coming at you and none of it's true but nobody believes you. 1222 01:25:28,760 --> 01:25:31,354 Or they think that you had something to do with it. 1223 01:25:32,480 --> 01:25:37,110 And it's like getting in trouble for something you didn't do. 1224 01:25:39,560 --> 01:25:43,394 You know, when kids tell you, "I didn't do it!" 1225 01:25:43,440 --> 01:25:45,431 You're going, "Yeah, right." 1226 01:25:47,600 --> 01:25:49,591 But I didn't do it. 1227 01:25:52,080 --> 01:25:55,629 I do feel like the family knows the whereabouts of Nicholas Barclay. 1228 01:25:55,680 --> 01:25:59,673 I think that Beverly Dollarhide and Jason Dollarhide knew at one time 1229 01:25:59,720 --> 01:26:02,109 what happened to Nicholas Barclay. 1230 01:26:02,160 --> 01:26:03,798 Show me one piece of evidence, 1231 01:26:03,840 --> 01:26:07,355 show me one thing that will lock anybody in our family up over this, 1232 01:26:07,400 --> 01:26:11,029 just one shred of actual proof. 1233 01:26:11,160 --> 01:26:13,196 Back here. Let's go back here. 1234 01:26:17,760 --> 01:26:20,991 The biggest, funniest one to me, hilarious, 1235 01:26:21,520 --> 01:26:24,193 is that we went and picked up a complete stranger 1236 01:26:24,240 --> 01:26:27,152 to hide the fact that we killed Nicholas 1237 01:26:27,200 --> 01:26:29,668 or someone in my family killed Nicholas. 1238 01:26:29,720 --> 01:26:32,837 When through four years that Nicholas was disappeared, 1239 01:26:32,880 --> 01:26:35,075 we were the only ones looking for him. 1240 01:26:35,120 --> 01:26:40,353 Why would we go pick up a stranger to hide something that didn't need to be hidden? 1241 01:26:49,680 --> 01:26:51,671 Just another one of his lies. 1242 01:26:55,120 --> 01:26:56,599 REPORTER: Even from behind bars, 1243 01:26:56,640 --> 01:26:59,871 he continued to lie to families of other missing children. 1244 01:27:00,720 --> 01:27:02,392 From this phone in his cell, 1245 01:27:02,440 --> 01:27:04,351 Bourdin made hundreds of collect calls 1246 01:27:04,400 --> 01:27:07,312 claiming to have information about lost children. 1247 01:27:07,920 --> 01:27:09,399 He even said he could help solve 1248 01:27:09,440 --> 01:27:12,034 the highly publicised case of Sabrina Aisenberg, 1249 01:27:12,080 --> 01:27:15,675 an infant who was taken from her home in Tampa, Florida, last year. 1250 01:27:19,280 --> 01:27:21,271 No. 1251 01:27:25,720 --> 01:27:27,073 Yes. 1252 01:27:32,400 --> 01:27:33,879 He's a habitual liar 1253 01:27:33,920 --> 01:27:35,592 and it blows my mind 1254 01:27:35,640 --> 01:27:41,351 that anybody can take anything that is said out of his mouth as truth. 1255 01:27:44,960 --> 01:27:47,235 What? This kid comes and says he's Nicholas, 1256 01:27:47,280 --> 01:27:48,554 and then turns around and says, 1257 01:27:48,600 --> 01:27:51,433 "You...these people that took care of me killed him." 1258 01:27:51,480 --> 01:27:54,040 Hm. How do you come up with that conclusion? 1259 01:27:54,080 --> 01:27:56,514 He put us through enough already 1260 01:27:56,560 --> 01:28:00,189 and then for him to do this while he's in jail for what he's done 1261 01:28:00,240 --> 01:28:02,356 and to cause more pain to our family? 1262 01:28:03,320 --> 01:28:04,514 Fuck him. 1263 01:28:06,080 --> 01:28:08,071 ♪ 16 HORSEPOWER: Wayfaring Stranger 1264 01:28:26,880 --> 01:28:30,953 I didn't give a damn what other people were thinking, or what they were feeling. 1265 01:28:31,000 --> 01:28:34,037 I care about myself, just about myself... 1266 01:28:36,200 --> 01:28:38,430 ..and fuck the rest of it. 1267 01:28:39,720 --> 01:28:43,713 ♪ I'm just a poor wayfaring stranger 1268 01:28:43,760 --> 01:28:47,389 ♪ Travellin' through a world of woe 1269 01:28:48,200 --> 01:28:52,193 ♪ Ain't no sickness, toil or danger 1270 01:28:52,240 --> 01:28:55,710 ♪ In that bright land to which I go 1271 01:28:56,400 --> 01:29:00,279 ♪ I'm goin' there to see my father 1272 01:29:00,560 --> 01:29:04,678 ♪ Said he'd meet me when I come - (Digging) 1273 01:29:04,720 --> 01:29:08,759 ♪ I'm only goin' over Jordan - (Digging) 1274 01:29:08,800 --> 01:29:12,509 ♪ I'm only goin' over home 1275 01:29:12,560 --> 01:29:14,198 (Digging) 1276 01:29:34,920 --> 01:29:38,708 ♪ I know dark clouds are gonna gather around me 1277 01:29:38,920 --> 01:29:42,595 ♪ I know my way'll be rough and steep 1278 01:29:43,280 --> 01:29:47,159 ♪ Yet beautiful fields lie just before me 1279 01:29:47,360 --> 01:29:51,035 ♪ Where God's redeemed their vigils keep 1280 01:29:51,440 --> 01:29:55,638 ♪ I'm goin' there to see my loved ones 1281 01:29:55,840 --> 01:29:59,515 ♪ Gone before me one by one 1282 01:29:59,760 --> 01:30:03,799 ♪ I'm only goin' over Jordan 1283 01:30:04,080 --> 01:30:07,914 ♪ I'm only goin' over home 1284 01:30:12,280 --> 01:30:16,637 ♪ I'll soon be free from earthly trials 1285 01:30:16,800 --> 01:30:20,588 ♪ This body rest in the old churchyard 1286 01:30:20,800 --> 01:30:24,839 ♪ I'll drop this cross of self-denial 1287 01:30:25,040 --> 01:30:29,113 ♪ And go singing home to God 1288 01:30:29,320 --> 01:30:33,393 ♪ I'm goin' there to see my saviour 1289 01:30:33,440 --> 01:30:37,558 ♪ To dwell with Him, no more to roam 1290 01:30:37,640 --> 01:30:41,758 ♪ I'm only goin' over Jordan 1291 01:30:41,800 --> 01:30:45,634 ♪ I'm only goin' over home 1292 01:30:46,040 --> 01:30:50,113 ♪ I'm only goin' over home 1293 01:31:05,640 --> 01:31:07,756 ♪ JIMMY DRIFTWOOD: He Had A Long Chain On 1294 01:31:12,920 --> 01:31:15,832 ♪ One night as I lay on my pillow 1295 01:31:17,080 --> 01:31:19,674 ♪ Moonlight as bright as the dawn 1296 01:31:21,000 --> 01:31:23,719 ♪ I saw a man a-walkin' 1297 01:31:24,840 --> 01:31:27,638 ♪ He had a long chain on 1298 01:31:28,600 --> 01:31:31,160 ♪ I heard his chain a-clankin' 1299 01:31:32,680 --> 01:31:35,433 ♪ It made a mournful sound 1300 01:31:36,400 --> 01:31:38,960 ♪ Welded around his body 1301 01:31:40,160 --> 01:31:42,958 ♪ Dragging along on the ground 1302 01:31:44,120 --> 01:31:46,793 ♪ He had a long chain on 1303 01:31:47,840 --> 01:31:50,434 ♪ He had a long chain on 1304 01:31:51,840 --> 01:31:54,593 ♪ He had a long chain on 1305 01:32:03,200 --> 01:32:05,760 ♪ He stood beside my window 1306 01:32:07,080 --> 01:32:09,548 ♪ He looked at me and he said 1307 01:32:10,480 --> 01:32:13,392 ♪ "I am so tired and hungry 1308 01:32:14,640 --> 01:32:16,949 ♪ Give me a bite of your bread" 1309 01:32:18,440 --> 01:32:20,829 ♪ He didn't look like a robber 1310 01:32:22,200 --> 01:32:24,953 ♪ He didn't look like a thief 1311 01:32:25,680 --> 01:32:28,513 ♪ His voice was as soft as the moonlight 1312 01:32:29,640 --> 01:32:32,757 ♪ His face full of sorrow and grief 1313 01:32:33,440 --> 01:32:36,193 ♪ He had a long chain on 1314 01:32:37,360 --> 01:32:39,999 ♪ He had a long chain on 1315 01:32:41,160 --> 01:32:44,436 ♪ He had a long chain on 1316 01:32:45,120 --> 01:32:47,588 ♪ He had a long chain on 1317 01:32:48,760 --> 01:32:51,911 ♪ He had a long chain on 1318 01:32:52,840 --> 01:32:55,400 ♪ He had a long chain on