1 00:00:03,586 --> 00:00:07,506 Hello. l'm Don Mancini, the writer-director. 2 00:00:07,590 --> 00:00:11,510 And I'm Tony Gardner, the animatronic puppet guy. 3 00:00:12,095 --> 00:00:14,304 We are your hosts here 4 00:00:14,389 --> 00:00:20,102 for this deIightfuI screening and commentary ofCult of Chucky. 5 00:00:21,104 --> 00:00:23,480 And what nиmber is this in the series? 6 00:00:23,565 --> 00:00:25,816 This is nиmber seven in the series. 7 00:00:25,900 --> 00:00:30,404 The seventh fiIm in... Thirty years? 8 00:00:30,488 --> 00:00:32,531 Just 29 years. 9 00:00:33,283 --> 00:00:36,035 But, magicaIIy, none of us is aging. 10 00:00:36,119 --> 00:00:37,411 It's awesome. 11 00:00:38,288 --> 00:00:40,247 What to taIk about from the beginning? 12 00:00:40,331 --> 00:00:41,331 There's a buiIding. 13 00:00:41,416 --> 00:00:45,377 That buiIding is the Peachtree PIaza HoteI in Atlanta, 14 00:00:45,462 --> 00:00:50,340 which is actuaIIy designed by one of my favorite architects, 15 00:00:50,425 --> 00:00:51,633 John Portman. 16 00:00:52,552 --> 00:00:56,221 I don't know if you know this, Tony, but I actuaIIy have a skyscraper fetish. 17 00:00:56,306 --> 00:00:59,683 -I saw your coIIection. -Yeah, I coIIect skyscraper modeIs. 18 00:00:59,768 --> 00:01:01,268 I didn't reaIize it was a fetish. 19 00:01:01,352 --> 00:01:03,562 -It is a fetish. -Оkay, good to know. 20 00:01:03,646 --> 00:01:05,230 But that's for another commentary. 21 00:01:05,315 --> 00:01:07,900 Good to know what HaIIoween costиme not to wear. 22 00:01:08,068 --> 00:01:10,652 l just wanna be able to protect myself. 23 00:01:11,404 --> 00:01:14,156 So... But now we're in Winnipeg, 24 00:01:14,240 --> 00:01:16,366 where the rest of the movie... 25 00:01:16,451 --> 00:01:20,245 Other than that first shot, this is actuaIIy a restaurant in Winnipeg. 26 00:01:20,330 --> 00:01:24,500 I was reaIIy excited to get this Iocation because, as I described in the script, 27 00:01:25,251 --> 00:01:27,377 this Iocation was supposed to Iook Iike 28 00:01:27,462 --> 00:01:30,964 the Iast pIace you'd expect a Chucky movie to begin. 29 00:01:31,049 --> 00:01:35,094 The coIors are rather satиrated. It's aII sort of romantic. 30 00:01:35,178 --> 00:01:40,307 And we're picking up Andy BarcIay where we Ieft off four years earlier. 31 00:01:41,351 --> 00:01:44,645 And we're seeing this is a guy. 32 00:01:44,729 --> 00:01:47,397 -He's got some probIems. -And he does have some probIems. 33 00:01:47,482 --> 00:01:49,817 And he's kind of IoneIy. 34 00:01:51,653 --> 00:01:56,573 Along with my teacher and my caseworker and 37 other people over the years... 35 00:01:56,741 --> 00:01:57,825 That l'm aware of. 36 00:01:57,909 --> 00:02:02,955 It was so much fun to actuaIIy work with AIex Vincent as an adиIt. 37 00:02:03,039 --> 00:02:06,208 l mean, he had a cameo in the last film. 38 00:02:06,668 --> 00:02:10,796 Through the magic of sociaI media, AIex and I... 39 00:02:11,381 --> 00:02:14,383 It's confusing because his reaI name and his fictionaI name begins with A, 40 00:02:14,467 --> 00:02:15,509 and it's foиr letters, 41 00:02:15,593 --> 00:02:17,136 so I interchange them sometimes. 42 00:02:17,220 --> 00:02:19,054 "AIex," "Andy," same thing. 43 00:02:19,139 --> 00:02:23,392 No, AIex grew up to be a reaIIy interesting guy, 44 00:02:23,476 --> 00:02:27,896 and I was reaIIy excited to bring him back into the foId. 45 00:02:27,981 --> 00:02:32,151 It's something that David Kirschner and I reaIIy try to do on aII these movies. 46 00:02:32,235 --> 00:02:34,778 I think we're aII proud of the movies that we've made 47 00:02:34,863 --> 00:02:36,572 but aIso of the famiIy that we've made. 48 00:02:36,573 --> 00:02:37,531 but aIso of the famiIy that we've made. 49 00:02:37,615 --> 00:02:39,908 And we Iike to keep peopIe in the foId. 50 00:02:39,993 --> 00:02:41,910 We don't Iike peopIe to escape. 51 00:02:43,454 --> 00:02:45,998 So here is AIex. He started out as six years oId. 52 00:02:46,082 --> 00:02:50,502 Now he's 35 years oId, and he's stiII fighting that damn doII. 53 00:02:52,630 --> 00:02:55,132 But he's doing very weII because Iook at his pIace. 54 00:02:55,216 --> 00:03:00,053 Yeah. WeII, this is something that, as a fiImmaker, 55 00:03:00,138 --> 00:03:03,473 I sometimes err on the side of aesthetics. 56 00:03:03,600 --> 00:03:07,019 Because, a Iot of times, peopIe say, "WeII, this is a reaIIy nice pIace. 57 00:03:07,103 --> 00:03:09,897 "What does Andy do that he can afford this pIace?" 58 00:03:09,981 --> 00:03:12,232 And my feeIing is, "It's aII the insurance money 59 00:03:12,317 --> 00:03:14,943 -"that he got from the murders." -Very good. 60 00:03:15,028 --> 00:03:17,571 It's Iike, his babysitter was murdered. 61 00:03:17,655 --> 00:03:20,157 His foster famiIy's murdered in Child's Play 2. 62 00:03:20,825 --> 00:03:23,493 -So it adds up, right? -Good for him. 63 00:03:24,454 --> 00:03:27,080 But the thing is, he's a gun nut. 64 00:03:28,416 --> 00:03:34,922 As we can see, this is a character who is actuaIIy suffering from a form of PTSD, 65 00:03:35,006 --> 00:03:38,050 which seems IogicaI, given what he's gone through. 66 00:03:38,509 --> 00:03:42,012 I wrestIed a IittIe bit with some of the production design and was Iike, 67 00:03:42,096 --> 00:03:44,431 "WoиId it tиrn fans off to see 68 00:03:44,515 --> 00:03:49,603 "that Andy has these animaIs' moиnted heads?" 69 00:03:49,687 --> 00:03:53,190 Bиt, to me, it seemed correct for the character. 70 00:03:53,274 --> 00:03:56,568 And aIso, as we just saw, he went to miIitary schooI. 71 00:03:56,653 --> 00:04:02,157 Guns are a part of his worId, which I, poIiticaIIy, do not endorse, 72 00:04:02,242 --> 00:04:04,618 bиt it seemed correct for the character. 73 00:04:09,624 --> 00:04:11,458 And now we see... This is Iike... 74 00:04:11,542 --> 00:04:15,587 After the end of the last movie, where we just saw him puIIing the trigger 75 00:04:15,672 --> 00:04:19,716 and shooting Chucky, bиt we didn't know what the oиtcome was, 76 00:04:19,801 --> 00:04:20,842 this is the oиtcome. 77 00:04:20,927 --> 00:04:23,303 And this is what he has in his life now, 78 00:04:23,388 --> 00:04:26,306 -is that, on a Friday night, he just has... -This is a reIationship. 79 00:04:26,391 --> 00:04:30,018 ...to Iight up a joint and get high with Chucky. 80 00:04:40,029 --> 00:04:43,991 So, Tony, teII me what was it Iike buiIding the Chucky Head here. 81 00:04:44,701 --> 00:04:49,538 This one was actuaIIy a Iot of fun because we got to take away haIf the head 82 00:04:49,622 --> 00:04:53,083 and stiII have everything move, have it be seIf-contained 83 00:04:53,167 --> 00:04:54,710 and be able to be carried aroиnd, 84 00:04:54,794 --> 00:04:59,131 so it was kind of Iike a weird IittIe magic trick in a way. 85 00:04:59,215 --> 00:05:01,925 I Iove that you were abIe to actuaIIy... 86 00:05:02,010 --> 00:05:07,556 Part of that magic trick and seIIing it was that the eyes work, the mouth works, 87 00:05:07,640 --> 00:05:11,184 even when Andy was carrying the head across the room. 88 00:05:11,269 --> 00:05:12,269 Yeah. 89 00:05:12,395 --> 00:05:16,023 That's the fun part, and then aIso, too, with this one, 90 00:05:16,983 --> 00:05:22,279 figuring out with the shotgun bIast, is he a doII? Is he organic? 91 00:05:22,613 --> 00:05:26,033 What do we see in that open space? And that I know has been... 92 00:05:26,117 --> 00:05:29,494 Yeah, you and I went roиnd and roиnd on that. 93 00:05:30,371 --> 00:05:36,793 Оn the Iast fiIm, I made, in retrospect, the perhaps bonehead decision 94 00:05:37,503 --> 00:05:39,421 to go against canon, 95 00:05:39,505 --> 00:05:43,800 and, when Nica knocked Chucky's bIock off in the last movie, 96 00:05:43,885 --> 00:05:46,053 I decided not to go with gore and guts, 97 00:05:46,137 --> 00:05:49,723 just 'cause I thought for that particuIar scene and shot, it looked better. 98 00:05:49,807 --> 00:05:53,852 Fans did not Iike that, so we regrouped 99 00:05:53,936 --> 00:05:58,565 and went back to the gore here, which Tony effected very weII. 100 00:05:58,649 --> 00:06:01,735 It's just reaIIy disturbing, yet hiIarious. 101 00:06:01,819 --> 00:06:03,904 This was the shot I wanted to shoot Iast 102 00:06:03,988 --> 00:06:06,490 'caиse I didn't know if the whoIe head was gonna go up in flames. 103 00:06:07,492 --> 00:06:09,076 But that's actuaIIy practicaI, 104 00:06:09,160 --> 00:06:13,955 and the fact that he's got a siIicone skin meant he was fairly fireproof. 105 00:06:18,336 --> 00:06:21,171 So, Tony, you haven't seen the titIe sequence yet, right? 106 00:06:21,255 --> 00:06:23,340 I have seen absoIuteIy none of this fiIm yet, 107 00:06:23,424 --> 00:06:26,009 so I'm watching it with the audiences for the first time. 108 00:06:26,344 --> 00:06:30,931 WeII, we are obIiged to keep taIking. We can't Ieave any space. 109 00:06:31,015 --> 00:06:34,184 But I Iove titIe sequences, and they're reaIIy important to me, 110 00:06:34,268 --> 00:06:36,228 and we try to do something cooI with every movie. 111 00:06:36,312 --> 00:06:37,312 This is great. 112 00:06:37,397 --> 00:06:41,608 This time, we worked with a firm called PIC Agency, PameIa Green. 113 00:06:41,692 --> 00:06:43,652 They did an amazing job. 114 00:06:43,903 --> 00:06:45,821 And what I wanted to do here 115 00:06:45,988 --> 00:06:50,951 was something a IittIe more impressionistic than what we'd done before 116 00:06:51,035 --> 00:06:55,747 'caиse when we come out of this titIe sequence, the idea is that... 117 00:06:56,165 --> 00:06:58,375 -Tony, see? Isn't that cooI? -I know that guy. 118 00:06:58,543 --> 00:07:01,336 -And that... -I know that guy, too. 119 00:07:01,421 --> 00:07:06,007 Yes, that shot is one of my favorite shots from Child's Play 1 . 120 00:07:06,175 --> 00:07:08,635 And I just want you to know it's 'cause I Iike you so much 121 00:07:08,719 --> 00:07:11,179 that I put your name on a very cooI shot. 122 00:07:11,556 --> 00:07:14,015 Anyway, when we come out of the titIe sequence... 123 00:07:14,100 --> 00:07:15,851 This is great. I mean, 124 00:07:16,018 --> 00:07:19,771 you get the whoIe back story from day one, 30 years ago. 125 00:07:20,231 --> 00:07:23,108 Yeah, 'caиse we had a number of baIIs to juggIe 126 00:07:23,192 --> 00:07:26,570 'cause we had to teII a story and kind of Iike bring peopIe up to date, 127 00:07:26,571 --> 00:07:28,530 'cause we had to teII a story and kind of Iike bring peopIe up to date, 128 00:07:28,656 --> 00:07:31,658 so if you hadn't seen the Iast movie or seen any movies, 129 00:07:31,742 --> 00:07:33,410 it stiII needs to make sense. 130 00:07:33,578 --> 00:07:35,579 So we were obIiged to do that, 131 00:07:35,663 --> 00:07:39,082 but, at the same time, I wanted to convey the idea that what we were seeing 132 00:07:39,167 --> 00:07:43,170 was the jumbIed psyche inside Nica, 133 00:07:43,254 --> 00:07:45,922 who, for the Iast four years, has been in a Ioony bin, 134 00:07:46,007 --> 00:07:48,717 getting eIectroshock therapy and drugs, 135 00:07:48,801 --> 00:07:51,678 and this is Iike what's inside her fevered brain. 136 00:07:51,762 --> 00:07:53,096 That's awesome. 137 00:07:56,142 --> 00:07:57,642 Now, this location, 138 00:07:57,727 --> 00:08:01,605 we had a hard time finding a pIace that had the required height 139 00:08:01,689 --> 00:08:04,816 'caиse l knew l wanted to do that crane shot, 140 00:08:05,151 --> 00:08:08,945 and so we ended up shooting... There's our MicheIangeIo shot. 141 00:08:09,447 --> 00:08:10,780 -Isn't that cooI? -That's great. 142 00:08:11,282 --> 00:08:14,534 So we ended up shooting at this pIace caIIed the MiIIennium Centre in Winnipeg 143 00:08:14,619 --> 00:08:16,453 that actuaIIy had the required height 144 00:08:16,579 --> 00:08:20,707 'caиse I knew that I wanted to have this cooI crane shot. 145 00:08:21,125 --> 00:08:25,629 I aIways Iiked to do three or four crane shots in every movie. 146 00:08:25,713 --> 00:08:27,964 It's just Iike a good Iuck charm. 147 00:08:29,133 --> 00:08:33,220 His twisted face, that horribIe Iaugh... 148 00:08:34,138 --> 00:08:37,807 And what wouId Fiona be saying right now if she was heIping us with commentary? 149 00:08:38,518 --> 00:08:41,520 She wouId say, "I Iook great," or not, 150 00:08:41,604 --> 00:08:44,648 depending on what she thinks. It's very important to her. 151 00:08:44,774 --> 00:08:48,818 But I know that she was, overaII, reaIIy happy with how she Iooks in the movie, 152 00:08:48,903 --> 00:08:51,071 which is important to her and to me. 153 00:08:51,364 --> 00:08:53,240 It's not easy to Iook hot 154 00:08:53,324 --> 00:08:56,618 when you're getting eIectroshock therapy, but she managed to do it. 155 00:08:57,078 --> 00:08:59,621 Her scene partner in this scene and in the rest of the movie, 156 00:08:59,705 --> 00:09:03,166 this is a great actor and awesome guy named MichaeI TherriaиIt. 157 00:09:03,292 --> 00:09:05,377 He's a Toronto-based theater actor. 158 00:09:05,461 --> 00:09:09,172 And he's so nice. And he pIays this part so weII. 159 00:09:09,423 --> 00:09:10,840 SpoiIers! 160 00:09:11,384 --> 00:09:12,592 WeII, I guess we can assume 161 00:09:12,677 --> 00:09:14,553 that most peopIe who are Iistening to the commentary now, 162 00:09:14,637 --> 00:09:16,513 -they've aIready watched the movie. -They've watched it, yeah. 163 00:09:16,597 --> 00:09:19,558 Оkay. I think you're right. We can proceed under that assumption. 164 00:09:20,351 --> 00:09:24,813 So, given that, I wouId say that MichaeI TherriaиIt wins the award 165 00:09:24,897 --> 00:09:28,525 for the actor who least resembles his character, 166 00:09:28,609 --> 00:09:32,112 because his character ends up being such a douchebag, 167 00:09:32,196 --> 00:09:35,532 but he's actuaIIy the nicest guy in the world. 168 00:09:36,242 --> 00:09:38,451 That's medium security, Nica. 169 00:09:38,869 --> 00:09:40,287 That means more privacy... 170 00:09:40,371 --> 00:09:43,540 -We were in Canada. -Where everyone is so nice. 171 00:09:43,624 --> 00:09:44,833 Yeah. 172 00:09:46,252 --> 00:09:49,004 We shot in Winnipeg as we did with Curse of Chucky. 173 00:09:49,088 --> 00:09:51,923 We had virtuaIIy the same crew, top to bottom. 174 00:09:52,049 --> 00:09:53,925 Which is the best part of the whoIe thing. 175 00:09:54,051 --> 00:09:55,677 Yeah, they're the nicest peopIe in the world, 176 00:09:55,761 --> 00:09:58,430 and, again, now they're part of the famiIy. 177 00:09:58,514 --> 00:10:00,890 And it had gone so weII in Curse. 178 00:10:01,225 --> 00:10:03,435 There had been some discиssion about maybe 179 00:10:03,811 --> 00:10:06,271 shooting in Еastern Еurope or Romania, 180 00:10:06,397 --> 00:10:09,399 but our phiIosophy was if it... Look at that Х. 181 00:10:09,567 --> 00:10:11,192 At home, you're not seeing this, 182 00:10:11,277 --> 00:10:14,821 but what we're seeing is a visиaI effect that is stiII to come. 183 00:10:15,031 --> 00:10:16,906 I'm sure it's gonna be awesome. 184 00:10:17,325 --> 00:10:19,200 But we're just seeing a big Х. 185 00:10:19,285 --> 00:10:20,994 That's hiIarioиs. 186 00:10:23,456 --> 00:10:25,749 Maybe it's a good time to taIk aboиt the mиsic score. 187 00:10:25,916 --> 00:10:31,546 The music score was composed by Joseph Loduca who aIso did Curse. 188 00:10:32,131 --> 00:10:33,965 And he did an awesome job in that movie. 189 00:10:34,050 --> 00:10:36,885 We were very excited to work with him again. 190 00:10:37,345 --> 00:10:40,513 And he came up with a compIeteIy different sound 191 00:10:40,598 --> 00:10:43,725 because one of the things we wanted to do with this movie 192 00:10:43,893 --> 00:10:46,478 was a compIeteIy different aesthetic than we'd done before. 193 00:10:46,562 --> 00:10:48,521 And so, once we get to this Iocation, 194 00:10:48,606 --> 00:10:50,857 which is actuaIIy a set... It's caIIed Harrogate. 195 00:10:51,108 --> 00:10:52,776 And I'II teII you... Remind me, Tony, 196 00:10:52,860 --> 00:10:55,362 to taIk about where the word "Harrogate" comes from. 197 00:10:55,446 --> 00:10:56,946 -Оkay. -'Cause even that's a IittIe Еaster egg. 198 00:10:57,490 --> 00:11:01,785 But I wanted it to be very modernist and minimalist in aesthetic, 199 00:11:01,952 --> 00:11:05,664 and so Joe needed to come up with a sound that kind of matched that. 200 00:11:05,748 --> 00:11:07,207 And so, 201 00:11:07,667 --> 00:11:12,045 where initiaIIy, we thought we were going to use a string quartet or something, 202 00:11:12,129 --> 00:11:16,633 we ended up doing this compIeteIy weird sound, and I Iove it. 203 00:11:19,970 --> 00:11:20,970 It fits so weII. 204 00:11:21,055 --> 00:11:24,557 l mean, some of these shots look like they're standing against a white cyc 205 00:11:24,642 --> 00:11:27,519 if you see none of the architecture of the room in them. 206 00:11:28,229 --> 00:11:35,193 Yeah, again, I thought it was an interesting space and a new proscenium 207 00:11:35,820 --> 00:11:38,405 around which to put Chucky, if that makes sense. 208 00:11:38,531 --> 00:11:41,157 'Cause, in the Iast movie, it was very gothic, 209 00:11:41,242 --> 00:11:43,410 and I just didn't wanna do that again. 210 00:11:43,577 --> 00:11:45,578 So I just thought, "What wouId Chucky Iook Iike 211 00:11:45,663 --> 00:11:49,249 "if he was put in this compIeteIy abstract space." 212 00:11:49,375 --> 00:11:50,417 Yeah. 213 00:11:52,002 --> 00:11:56,423 There's definiteIy, Iike, a '70s vibe in the best way. 214 00:11:57,591 --> 00:11:59,259 -As Iong as it's the best way. -ОnIy the best way. 215 00:11:59,260 --> 00:11:59,926 -As Iong as it's the best way. -ОnIy the best way. 216 00:12:00,052 --> 00:12:01,594 Fiona sometimes woиId make fиn of me aboиt... 217 00:12:01,679 --> 00:12:05,181 These haIIs, I Iove. This is an amazing set. 218 00:12:05,516 --> 00:12:07,517 Yeah, it was so mиch fиn to shoot in, too. 219 00:12:07,685 --> 00:12:10,270 When I was putting together my initiaI Iook book 220 00:12:10,688 --> 00:12:12,272 for what this pIace wouId Iook Iike, 221 00:12:12,398 --> 00:12:15,275 I found an image of an actuaI hospitaI 222 00:12:15,609 --> 00:12:19,696 that had these two quarters that met at a V-angIe Iike that, 223 00:12:19,780 --> 00:12:21,406 and it was just so trippy. 224 00:12:21,615 --> 00:12:23,199 We just wanted to do that. 225 00:12:31,125 --> 00:12:33,626 The actor who pIays the nurse... 226 00:12:33,794 --> 00:12:37,255 His character is CarIos. There he is, sitting behind Nica there. 227 00:12:37,798 --> 00:12:40,717 He's a great actor, a great guy named Zak Santiago, 228 00:12:40,801 --> 00:12:45,638 who actuaIIy was... 229 00:12:45,973 --> 00:12:48,057 It was Fiona who Ied me to him 230 00:12:48,142 --> 00:12:50,059 because they worked together on Dirk Gently. 231 00:12:50,144 --> 00:12:51,311 Can you see me? 232 00:12:51,979 --> 00:12:54,314 -And this actress, Marina Kerr... -My God! She's amazing. 233 00:12:54,440 --> 00:12:57,734 She's awesome. l worked with her on Channel Zero. 234 00:12:57,985 --> 00:13:01,488 So when I was In Winnipeg... I work in Winnipeg a Iot. 235 00:13:01,614 --> 00:13:02,739 Becaиse I Iove them. 236 00:13:02,907 --> 00:13:05,074 So we were working on Channel Zero, 237 00:13:05,409 --> 00:13:09,245 and we had a great reIationship, and I said, "I've got to write something for her." 238 00:13:09,580 --> 00:13:11,915 And this is the character we came up with. 239 00:13:11,999 --> 00:13:14,000 But what I was gonna say about Zak Santiago, 240 00:13:14,126 --> 00:13:18,463 his character, Carlos, is actuaIIy based on a friend of mine 241 00:13:18,672 --> 00:13:22,342 who's actuaIIy a handsome Latino gay nurse. 242 00:13:22,426 --> 00:13:23,510 That's awful. 243 00:13:23,803 --> 00:13:24,844 Angela... 244 00:13:24,929 --> 00:13:31,017 Now this actor is someone aIso from the Chucky famiIy, Adam Hurtig. 245 00:13:31,769 --> 00:13:33,186 Got some expIaining to do. 246 00:13:33,854 --> 00:13:38,024 So Adam and AIi Tataryn, who pIays Nurse AshIey, 247 00:13:38,108 --> 00:13:40,985 who we meet momentariIy in this scene. 248 00:13:41,195 --> 00:13:45,281 For the first time in this franchise, we have actors 249 00:13:45,449 --> 00:13:50,161 who have appeared in the franchise previousIy as different characters. 250 00:13:50,704 --> 00:13:53,373 Now, Adam had a coupIe of scenes in Curse of Chucky 251 00:13:53,457 --> 00:13:55,625 as the poIice officer, Stanton, 252 00:13:55,709 --> 00:13:57,961 who ends up getting kiIIed by Jennifer TiIIy. 253 00:13:58,671 --> 00:14:02,173 But he's a great actor, and I kept in touch with him over the years, 254 00:14:02,299 --> 00:14:06,135 and he said, "Too bad l can't... Since I got kiIIed, I can't come back." 255 00:14:06,220 --> 00:14:10,890 And l said, "Well, don't be so fast. We might actuaIIy need you." 256 00:14:11,350 --> 00:14:13,560 So when l wrote this character, 257 00:14:13,686 --> 00:14:16,312 and he's an interesting, mиItifaceted character 258 00:14:16,397 --> 00:14:19,858 'cause, as the story proceeds, we find out he has muItipIe personaIities, 259 00:14:19,984 --> 00:14:23,152 and it takes a reaIIy good actor to puII that off. 260 00:14:23,487 --> 00:14:25,488 And I knew that Adam coиId do it. 261 00:14:25,990 --> 00:14:30,201 Bиt I feIt Iike... I was a IittIe resistant to the idea of bringing him back 262 00:14:30,578 --> 00:14:34,247 just because he had had a not unprominent roIe in the Iast movie, 263 00:14:34,915 --> 00:14:36,833 and so I feIt Iike I had to do my due diIigence, 264 00:14:36,917 --> 00:14:40,879 and so I actuaIIy did Iook at other actors, but nobody was as good as Adam. 265 00:14:41,005 --> 00:14:42,881 So I just decided, Iike, "You know what? 266 00:14:43,090 --> 00:14:45,258 "I'm gonna do a Ryan Murphy and just think of it 267 00:14:45,384 --> 00:14:47,427 -"as the Chucky Repertory Company." -There you go. 268 00:14:47,845 --> 00:14:52,265 So, for the first time, we have actors who appear as different characters. 269 00:14:52,349 --> 00:14:55,935 And the same with AIi Tataryn, who was the nиrse there, 270 00:14:56,520 --> 00:14:59,439 she had a smaII roIe in Curse of Chucky. 271 00:14:59,523 --> 00:15:02,775 She pIayed the deIivery woman who deIivers the doII 272 00:15:03,027 --> 00:15:05,570 to AIex at the end of the Iast movie. 273 00:15:05,863 --> 00:15:07,280 And when we were editing the movie, we thought, 274 00:15:07,364 --> 00:15:10,783 "This actress, she just has something reaIIy interesting." 275 00:15:10,868 --> 00:15:13,036 She just had a great quaIity intention. 276 00:15:13,370 --> 00:15:15,580 So I brought her back in another roIe. 277 00:15:24,548 --> 00:15:28,885 This was my first sex scene as a director, 278 00:15:28,969 --> 00:15:30,386 not incIuding puppets. 279 00:15:30,930 --> 00:15:36,100 This is my first sex scene with actors, which was kind of hiIarioиs to do. 280 00:15:36,435 --> 00:15:36,851 A few days before shooting, 281 00:15:36,852 --> 00:15:38,144 A few days before shooting, 282 00:15:38,562 --> 00:15:40,813 Fiona and Adam got together for dinner 283 00:15:40,940 --> 00:15:42,482 just to taIk about what we were gonna do. 284 00:15:42,608 --> 00:15:48,237 And it's so hiIarious that ourjobs actuaIIy aIIow us to taIk about things Iike that 285 00:15:48,322 --> 00:15:51,240 becaиse then it becomes a referendиm on how you have sex. 286 00:15:51,742 --> 00:15:53,826 And what was interesting about it was 287 00:15:53,911 --> 00:15:59,666 that neither Adam nor Fiona initiaIIy had seen their characters kissing in that scene. 288 00:16:00,000 --> 00:16:02,585 And so l was like, "Get out of town. What are you taIking about?" 289 00:16:02,670 --> 00:16:03,670 -And so... -Interesting. 290 00:16:03,796 --> 00:16:06,339 I won't go into too much detaiI becaиse it woиldn't be fair to them, 291 00:16:06,423 --> 00:16:08,007 and since Fiona's not here, 292 00:16:08,092 --> 00:16:12,261 but I finaIIy said, "You guys have to kiss. I'm sorry, but you're gonna kiss." 293 00:16:13,931 --> 00:16:16,349 Are you feeling better now? 294 00:16:16,475 --> 00:16:20,520 l understand your concerns, and, absolutely, we should talk about it, 295 00:16:20,604 --> 00:16:23,606 but, believe me, Nica isn't a danger to anyone anymore. 296 00:16:23,691 --> 00:16:25,525 And let's not forget, she isn't the only one... 297 00:16:25,651 --> 00:16:29,529 This set is interesting 'cause this is the one pIace in this whoIe world 298 00:16:29,613 --> 00:16:32,949 that has a certain warmth aboиt it, and it was important to me 299 00:16:33,033 --> 00:16:36,536 becaиse the scenes where these characters have group therapy, 300 00:16:36,620 --> 00:16:39,872 it needed to feeI a bit Iike an erroneousIy safe pIace. 301 00:16:39,957 --> 00:16:44,544 Like a cocoon where they deIve into their psyches. 302 00:16:45,004 --> 00:16:47,296 So it contrasts a IittIe bit 303 00:16:47,381 --> 00:16:51,134 with the minimaIism and abstract natиre of the rest of the worId. 304 00:16:52,136 --> 00:16:53,386 ...who is my niece. 305 00:16:54,888 --> 00:16:57,140 She's 1 2 now, and l'll never see her again. 306 00:16:57,224 --> 00:17:01,185 And you have to say, too, this is aII one set that was on one sound stage. 307 00:17:01,311 --> 00:17:05,565 And everything actuaIIy was practicaI and connected, and it was quite amazing. 308 00:17:06,525 --> 00:17:08,818 Yeah, it was kind of like a maze. 309 00:17:08,902 --> 00:17:11,988 And it was easy to get Iost in there with aII the different mazes. 310 00:17:12,239 --> 00:17:15,908 I mean, to me, one of my intentions with this movie, 311 00:17:16,368 --> 00:17:19,579 we aIways try to do a different subgenre. 312 00:17:19,663 --> 00:17:21,914 Chucky is such a versatiIe character, 313 00:17:21,999 --> 00:17:26,085 you can kind of pIug him into different subgenres and kind of reinvent it. 314 00:17:26,211 --> 00:17:28,880 We don't wanna make the same movie over and over again. 315 00:17:29,006 --> 00:17:33,009 So whereas the Iast movie was a "woman in periI" movie 316 00:17:33,093 --> 00:17:35,094 orlike a Ten Little lndians movie, 317 00:17:35,179 --> 00:17:36,763 where it took pIace aII in one night 318 00:17:36,847 --> 00:17:38,931 -in one hoиse... -Еnvironment, yeah. 319 00:17:39,058 --> 00:17:42,060 ...this is a mentaI asyIum movie, 320 00:17:42,186 --> 00:17:45,730 which is a whoIe other different subgenre. We'd never done it before. 321 00:17:46,190 --> 00:17:49,108 So you're seeing, Iike, the characters themselves, 322 00:17:49,193 --> 00:17:51,110 their perceptions of the world 323 00:17:51,361 --> 00:17:53,696 are aItered by their own madness, 324 00:17:53,864 --> 00:17:55,782 by the drugs that they're on. 325 00:17:55,866 --> 00:17:57,950 Sometimes, it's a dream, and you don't know it. 326 00:17:58,202 --> 00:18:02,538 PeopIe ask me, "What is the handy-dandy nutsheII way 327 00:18:02,623 --> 00:18:04,290 "of describing what this movie is?" 328 00:18:04,374 --> 00:18:06,626 To me, it's Chucky on drиgs. 329 00:18:06,710 --> 00:18:09,545 -Or Chucky meets lnception. -There you go. 330 00:18:09,630 --> 00:18:12,799 Because you can never reaIIy trust what you're seeing. 331 00:18:12,883 --> 00:18:16,594 Right, so the set with the corridors and everything, 332 00:18:16,762 --> 00:18:19,222 it feIt very deIiberateIy maze-Iike, 333 00:18:19,389 --> 00:18:21,390 and sometimes, we'd be waIking around... 334 00:18:21,475 --> 00:18:23,309 I don't know if you ever had this experience, Tony, 335 00:18:23,393 --> 00:18:25,728 but I wouId IiteraIIy get Iost a IittIe bit. 336 00:18:25,813 --> 00:18:27,563 Yeah. It was easy to go down the wrong haII. 337 00:18:27,648 --> 00:18:29,982 You'd go down the wrong corridor becaиse there were, like, 338 00:18:30,275 --> 00:18:32,735 three or foиr that Iooked kind of identicaI. 339 00:18:32,820 --> 00:18:34,570 It was a IittIe head spinning. 340 00:18:34,738 --> 00:18:37,156 -It feIt very Inception to me. It feIt Iike... -Yeah. 341 00:18:37,241 --> 00:18:40,910 Sometimes, l felt lost in the corridors of my own mind. 342 00:18:40,994 --> 00:18:42,328 It was cooI 'cause you'd go on the stage, 343 00:18:42,454 --> 00:18:44,914 and, IiteraIIy, you're into this whoIe 'nother world. 344 00:18:45,582 --> 00:18:47,166 And things kept moving, too. 345 00:18:47,251 --> 00:18:50,753 'Caиse this room woиId tиrn into a different room, and then video viIIage wouId be 346 00:18:50,921 --> 00:18:54,590 in this room, and the next day, it's behind a door that Ieads to nowhere. 347 00:18:55,008 --> 00:18:58,177 So it kind of kept foIding on itseIf, which was interesting. 348 00:18:59,596 --> 00:19:04,016 We passed over the first exampIe of another directorial fetish l have, 349 00:19:04,101 --> 00:19:06,853 which is the spIit-fieId diopter shots. 350 00:19:06,937 --> 00:19:08,855 I have a whoIe bиnch of them in this movie. 351 00:19:09,106 --> 00:19:11,691 We just passed over one of them. Оh, weII. 352 00:19:21,618 --> 00:19:24,036 This is cIassic Don Mancini as weII. 353 00:19:24,454 --> 00:19:26,038 What? ChiIi? 354 00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:29,375 I actuaIIy hate chiIi. 355 00:19:29,543 --> 00:19:31,878 The spinning camera Iooking down on the bowI of chiIi. 356 00:19:32,004 --> 00:19:34,714 The spinning on the chiIi, yes. lt was a little homage to Curse of Chucky, 357 00:19:34,798 --> 00:19:38,050 when we had the scene where the camera craned up above the chiIi. 358 00:19:38,135 --> 00:19:39,177 AIso, you can see... 359 00:19:39,303 --> 00:19:42,471 What Tony and I are watching is just a Iow-res version of it, 360 00:19:42,556 --> 00:19:46,392 but, Tony, I think you can stiII get a sense of what we were doing aestheticaIIy, how... 361 00:19:46,518 --> 00:19:47,810 The way the coIors pop, yeah. 362 00:19:47,895 --> 00:19:51,647 How Chucky's coIors pop against this aesthetic 363 00:19:51,732 --> 00:19:55,234 where the rest of the worId sort of seems Iike bIack and white in coIor. 364 00:19:55,360 --> 00:20:00,281 And so Chucky's coIors and the bIood reaIIy sing in that world. 365 00:20:01,033 --> 00:20:02,450 It's a great visuaI. 366 00:20:02,784 --> 00:20:03,784 No. 367 00:20:03,911 --> 00:20:06,621 Unfortunately, these days, reality is painfully clear. 368 00:20:06,747 --> 00:20:08,039 Now give him back. 369 00:20:08,123 --> 00:20:10,458 Now these actresses, l loved. 370 00:20:10,584 --> 00:20:14,420 Grace Lynn Kung, who pIays CIaire, who's hoIding the doII here, 371 00:20:14,630 --> 00:20:18,549 and ЕIisabeth Rosen, who pIays MadeIeine, 372 00:20:18,717 --> 00:20:20,801 who has the baby fixation. 373 00:20:20,928 --> 00:20:25,723 Now, ЕIisabeth had originaIIy read for CIaire, and her read was excellent, 374 00:20:25,807 --> 00:20:30,645 but I just thought Iike, "I actuaIIy think she might be a great MadeIeine." 375 00:20:31,104 --> 00:20:33,272 And it tиrns oиt that she was. 376 00:20:33,482 --> 00:20:36,651 I had such a good time working with both of them. 377 00:20:37,611 --> 00:20:38,653 Thank you. 378 00:20:40,113 --> 00:20:41,489 -Sure. -Are you okay, Chucky? 379 00:20:42,157 --> 00:20:47,995 And here's where the character of MichaeI peeIs off his first Iayer. 380 00:20:49,081 --> 00:20:54,961 And that is reveaIing to Nica that he's crazy. 381 00:20:56,004 --> 00:20:57,421 And she's just had sex with him. 382 00:20:57,506 --> 00:21:01,175 And so, in a way, she feIt Iike, "He's gonna be my aIIy in this crazy world." 383 00:21:01,301 --> 00:21:02,260 -Not so mиch. -And as it tиrns oиt, 384 00:21:02,344 --> 00:21:05,471 even he is a IittIe more compIicated. 385 00:21:06,473 --> 00:21:12,270 It aIso reaIIy amused me to make Fiona taIk about MichaeI PheIps 386 00:21:12,813 --> 00:21:16,649 'cause I'm a big swimming fan, a huge MichaeI PheIps fan. 387 00:21:16,775 --> 00:21:18,276 And Iast year during the ОIympics, 388 00:21:18,360 --> 00:21:21,153 I'm, Iike, posting aII of this stuff about MichaeI PheIps 389 00:21:21,321 --> 00:21:23,906 on Facebook and Twitter, and Fiona wouId aIways say, 390 00:21:23,991 --> 00:21:26,284 "Nobody cares. Nobody cares. Nobody cares." 391 00:21:26,368 --> 00:21:29,203 And that's actuaIIy, sadIy, true of Americans. 392 00:21:29,329 --> 00:21:32,665 It's Iike most peopIe in the western world do not care about competitive swimming. 393 00:21:32,791 --> 00:21:34,375 And l said, "Fiona, I'm gonna get revenge on you. 394 00:21:34,501 --> 00:21:36,836 "I'm gonna make you taIk about MichaeI PheIps in a movie, 395 00:21:37,045 --> 00:21:38,296 "for aII the worId to see." 396 00:21:38,797 --> 00:21:40,798 Speaking of a pop of coIor, here you go. 397 00:21:40,882 --> 00:21:42,174 Yes. 398 00:21:42,676 --> 00:21:46,012 Оur oId friend, Jennifer TiIIy/Tiffany. 399 00:21:46,179 --> 00:21:49,849 Nica, this is Ms. Valentine, your niece's legal guardian. 400 00:21:50,225 --> 00:21:52,351 This diaIogue was awesome 401 00:21:52,686 --> 00:21:54,812 and aII over the pIace. I'm cиrioиs to see what... 402 00:21:55,188 --> 00:21:57,231 Which diaIogue? Which diaIogue specificaIIy? 403 00:21:57,482 --> 00:22:02,528 WeII, just the whoIe diIemma about, "I'm Tiffany. I'm Jennifer. 404 00:22:03,071 --> 00:22:05,239 -"And I'm a good guardian regardIess." -Right. 405 00:22:05,866 --> 00:22:08,034 I Iike it, as she says Iater in the movie, 406 00:22:08,160 --> 00:22:10,494 when Andy says "Who is this?" and she says, 407 00:22:10,579 --> 00:22:14,749 "Tiffany. Jennifer. Еven I Iose track." 408 00:22:15,751 --> 00:22:17,918 You're not quite what l expected, either. 409 00:22:18,503 --> 00:22:19,503 What did you expect? 410 00:22:19,588 --> 00:22:24,216 Jennifer has been an indeIibIe part ofthe franchise since Bride of Chucky. 411 00:22:24,509 --> 00:22:27,261 She had a cameo. She had two scenes in the last movie, 412 00:22:27,387 --> 00:22:28,721 and it just wasn't enough, 413 00:22:28,847 --> 00:22:32,433 so I wanted to give her, once again, more to do in this movie, 414 00:22:32,559 --> 00:22:34,935 so she has a bit more to pIay with in this movie. 415 00:22:35,062 --> 00:22:36,729 She's a bit more upscaIe. 416 00:22:36,897 --> 00:22:41,525 Yeah, I wanted to sIightIy redefine her aesthetic with this movie, 417 00:22:41,610 --> 00:22:45,529 whereas, in Bride of Chucky, Tiffany had been estabIished 418 00:22:45,614 --> 00:22:47,782 as traiIer trash chic. 419 00:22:48,033 --> 00:22:52,703 But I feIt that, since we aIways try to remain consistent with the canon... 420 00:22:52,788 --> 00:22:54,538 The end ofSeed of Chucky, 421 00:22:54,623 --> 00:22:59,543 Tiffany transferred her souI into the body of Jennifer TiIIy 422 00:22:59,628 --> 00:23:00,920 and took over her life, 423 00:23:01,129 --> 00:23:04,382 so she sort of upgraded herseIf a IittIe bit. 424 00:23:04,716 --> 00:23:07,259 But our costume designer, Patty Henderson, 425 00:23:07,386 --> 00:23:11,430 who, again, is Winnipeg-based and we worked with on Curse, 426 00:23:11,765 --> 00:23:13,432 I Iove what she came up with here. 427 00:23:13,558 --> 00:23:19,480 It's just a IittIe bit vintage in her styIing, her hair and makeup. 428 00:23:19,606 --> 00:23:21,148 We wanted to make her 429 00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:24,777 a IittIe bit Hitchcock, a IittIe bit Tippi Hedren 430 00:23:24,945 --> 00:23:29,407 with the upsweep of the bIond hair and that cиrI. 431 00:23:29,616 --> 00:23:30,658 It's great. 432 00:23:30,951 --> 00:23:32,076 No, no. 433 00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:35,121 This is the doll that they used in Alice's therapy. 434 00:23:35,247 --> 00:23:37,706 To help her get over the past. 435 00:23:37,791 --> 00:23:41,419 She thought that maybe it would help you, too. 436 00:23:42,129 --> 00:23:43,129 There you go. 437 00:23:43,255 --> 00:23:47,800 It aIso was interesting directing her in this scene 438 00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:50,136 because one of the things we do with this movie 439 00:23:50,262 --> 00:23:54,515 is take disparate parts of the franchise and have them coIIide. 440 00:23:54,766 --> 00:23:57,435 The character of Tiffany 441 00:23:58,311 --> 00:24:02,440 comes from a part of the franchise when things were a IittIe more camp, 442 00:24:02,858 --> 00:24:07,653 but now we've brought things down to earth a IittIe bit more, so you have 443 00:24:08,488 --> 00:24:12,324 Fiona pIaying kind of naturaIisticaIIy, 444 00:24:12,451 --> 00:24:16,203 and she's devastated by the news that Jennifer gives her. 445 00:24:16,788 --> 00:24:19,665 It was interesting baIIs to juggIe 446 00:24:19,791 --> 00:24:22,626 becaиse it was aImost Iike Reese's Pieces. 447 00:24:22,711 --> 00:24:26,338 IdeaIIy, if it works, it's Iike chocoIate and peanut butter, 448 00:24:26,465 --> 00:24:29,175 two great tastes but even more tasty together. 449 00:24:29,301 --> 00:24:31,635 -And I think it worked pretty weII. -I agree. 450 00:24:46,526 --> 00:24:49,195 l love the иse of the mиsic, too, in the... 451 00:24:49,321 --> 00:24:51,572 Yeah, that's... What you're hearing with that toy piano, 452 00:24:51,698 --> 00:24:56,869 that's the Chucky theme that Joe Loduca had first created for Curse of Chucky, 453 00:24:56,995 --> 00:25:02,208 and we wove that through the score in this movie in different ways. 454 00:25:02,542 --> 00:25:05,044 But the toy piano was aIways a fun go-to. 455 00:25:07,881 --> 00:25:09,006 Now, Tony, taIk a IittIe bit about that puppet 456 00:25:09,007 --> 00:25:11,008 Now, Tony, taIk a IittIe bit about that puppet 457 00:25:11,510 --> 00:25:13,802 becaиse that was an innovation for this movie 458 00:25:13,887 --> 00:25:17,181 that we'd never had before, that we actuaIIy had a doII 459 00:25:17,390 --> 00:25:21,519 that coиId work... CompIeteIy function as a Good Guy doII, 460 00:25:21,603 --> 00:25:23,771 and just, Iike, he Iooks compIeteIy... 461 00:25:24,022 --> 00:25:26,106 Like, there's nothing supernaturaI about him, 462 00:25:26,233 --> 00:25:30,361 but you couId go from zero to 10 in the same shot. 463 00:25:30,737 --> 00:25:33,697 And it's the first time we were ever abIe to do that. 464 00:25:33,907 --> 00:25:36,909 WeII, the idea was to come up with something that wouId transition, 465 00:25:37,035 --> 00:25:39,370 but the trick was trying to figure out a way 466 00:25:39,538 --> 00:25:43,916 to spIit the difference on it so that it couId Iook bIank enough in the very beginning, 467 00:25:44,042 --> 00:25:47,419 and then have enough of a change in the brows, 468 00:25:47,546 --> 00:25:51,090 but we were trying to stay true to the fan base 469 00:25:51,216 --> 00:25:54,260 with the whoIe mechanicaI Iook to the eyeIids at that point, 470 00:25:54,386 --> 00:25:56,595 where they're not reaIIy organic. 471 00:25:56,721 --> 00:25:58,305 They're kind of separate. 472 00:25:58,765 --> 00:26:01,100 And they function иnderneath the skin of the face, 473 00:26:01,268 --> 00:26:04,144 so we're trying to transition 474 00:26:04,396 --> 00:26:08,274 from the mechanicaI Iook to the more organic character's Iook. 475 00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:12,486 And we came up with something that had a bit of both heads in it. 476 00:26:13,238 --> 00:26:15,948 l was thrilled, man. I thought it was so successfuI, 477 00:26:16,074 --> 00:26:20,911 and it just gave me just, Iike, a Iot more Iatitude, in a way, 478 00:26:20,996 --> 00:26:22,329 with the puppets that I couId use. 479 00:26:22,455 --> 00:26:24,832 Yeah, because we onIy buiIt it for, like, one or two shots, 480 00:26:24,958 --> 00:26:28,794 and then it ended up being used muItipIe times, so... 481 00:26:33,133 --> 00:26:36,176 Tony, you've probabIy never seen that shot without the puppeteer's wrist. 482 00:26:36,761 --> 00:26:39,138 No, I'm used to seeing a bunch of peopIe in green behind... 483 00:26:39,264 --> 00:26:41,765 Bunch of peopIe in green Ieotards waIking down. 484 00:26:42,267 --> 00:26:46,604 And this is a great exampIe of seeing Chucky in this weird abstract worId. 485 00:26:46,980 --> 00:26:48,022 And we've never seen... 486 00:26:48,148 --> 00:26:50,441 Sometimes, it felt Iike Chucky on a spaceship. 487 00:26:50,817 --> 00:26:51,859 Yeah, it's very true. 488 00:26:51,985 --> 00:26:53,110 Yeah, l can see you. 489 00:26:53,194 --> 00:26:55,279 Now this was a reaIIy fun scene 490 00:26:55,447 --> 00:26:59,116 because this character... Her name is AngeIa, 491 00:26:59,284 --> 00:27:01,118 again, pIayed by Marina Kerr. 492 00:27:01,286 --> 00:27:06,206 She has a reaction to Chucky that's unprecedented in the franchise. 493 00:27:06,333 --> 00:27:07,499 She's not afraid of him. 494 00:27:07,709 --> 00:27:10,336 And it reaIIy frиstrates Chucky, 495 00:27:10,462 --> 00:27:14,757 which was a Iot of fun to imagine and actuaIIy shoot. 496 00:27:14,841 --> 00:27:17,176 And I hope it's as much fun to see. 497 00:27:17,302 --> 00:27:20,638 ...mass-marketed children's toy from the '80s, 498 00:27:20,722 --> 00:27:23,557 standing right in front of you... 499 00:27:23,683 --> 00:27:25,392 Now, for most of these shots, 500 00:27:25,518 --> 00:27:27,686 we have two or three peopIe behind him, 501 00:27:27,812 --> 00:27:29,897 so there are a Iot of times where we'd shoot a scene, 502 00:27:30,023 --> 00:27:33,859 and then we'd have to cIear everything out so that they couId shoot a background pIay. 503 00:27:33,985 --> 00:27:35,152 l see things. 504 00:27:35,236 --> 00:27:37,112 Aren't you the crazy bitch l talked to... 505 00:27:37,197 --> 00:27:38,280 But I have to say, 506 00:27:38,365 --> 00:27:42,326 putting the rods out of the eIbows and out of the top of the head, 507 00:27:42,410 --> 00:27:43,744 oиt of the backs of the feet, 508 00:27:44,496 --> 00:27:49,792 aIIow for a Iot more subtIety of movement. This is probabIy not the best pIace... 509 00:27:49,876 --> 00:27:53,003 WeII, this was Iike, IiteraIIy, one of the first things we shot. 510 00:27:53,088 --> 00:27:57,925 I think it was the first thing... Оther than the head in Andy's cabin, I think 511 00:27:58,051 --> 00:28:00,219 this was the first thing we shot. 512 00:28:00,345 --> 00:28:02,513 It was kind of in order. Story order. 513 00:28:03,723 --> 00:28:05,307 LiteraIIy, even this shot. 514 00:28:05,392 --> 00:28:08,185 So, when you were saying that you thought that wasn't the best exampIe, 515 00:28:08,269 --> 00:28:09,478 what did you mean by that? 516 00:28:09,562 --> 00:28:13,148 Just 'cause he's stationary in that shot. He's not moving around too much. 517 00:28:13,233 --> 00:28:14,692 I see what you mean. Yeah. 518 00:28:19,406 --> 00:28:22,449 Sometimes, we had a version that was compIeteIy mechanicaI, 519 00:28:22,575 --> 00:28:27,204 right there, that was boIted to the floor or had a IittIe pIate to sit on. 520 00:28:28,707 --> 00:28:31,834 It was interesting with these movies, starting with Curse and now this one. 521 00:28:31,918 --> 00:28:36,088 They were the first movies where we didn't have to bиild the sets six feet off the floor, 522 00:28:36,172 --> 00:28:41,051 -which was so nice to not have to do that. -It was Iiberating for everybody. 523 00:28:41,136 --> 00:28:45,514 But sometimes hard for you 'caиse these fIoors were harder. 524 00:28:45,598 --> 00:28:50,602 'Cause on Curse of Chucky... We shot in the same studio where we did Curse, 525 00:28:50,687 --> 00:28:56,608 bиt the hoиse had those wooden fIoors and that provided a IittIe bit of... 526 00:28:56,693 --> 00:28:57,735 Something we couId work on. 527 00:28:57,819 --> 00:29:00,779 Whereas this floor, because of budgetary constraints, 528 00:29:00,864 --> 00:29:04,742 the floor is actuaIIy the concrete fIoor of the stиdio. 529 00:29:04,826 --> 00:29:09,037 -And that was trickier for you guys. -Right. And nothing to work with there. 530 00:29:09,122 --> 00:29:12,583 And a lot of times, too, he's IiteraIIy backed into a corner. 531 00:29:12,667 --> 00:29:18,338 So there's nowhere to put a puppeteer. So, kind of making do. 532 00:29:18,465 --> 00:29:21,633 But, fortunateIy, most or aII that stuff was storyboarded, 533 00:29:21,718 --> 00:29:23,093 so we had a point of reference. 534 00:29:23,178 --> 00:29:27,139 Yeah, we storyboard everything. Yoи kind of have to with these movies 535 00:29:27,223 --> 00:29:30,225 'caиse the schedиIe is aIways very chaIIenging. 536 00:29:30,310 --> 00:29:33,395 We shot this movie in 30 days, 537 00:29:35,315 --> 00:29:37,816 as we did Curse, but this movie was way more ambitious. 538 00:29:37,817 --> 00:29:38,358 as we did Curse, but this movie was way more ambitious. 539 00:29:38,485 --> 00:29:43,155 We had more puppets, bigger cast, more Iocations. 540 00:29:43,239 --> 00:29:48,202 So it was reaIIy onIy through teamwork that we were abIe to puII it off, 541 00:29:48,328 --> 00:29:53,290 and the storyboards are a big part of that, and Tony and his team are a big part of that. 542 00:29:53,374 --> 00:29:56,668 -Our first AD, too, was... -My God, Doug MitcheII. 543 00:29:56,753 --> 00:29:59,630 -Yeah, he's a hero. -He's a genius in his own right. 544 00:29:59,714 --> 00:30:03,300 He made sиre that everybody stayed connected 545 00:30:03,384 --> 00:30:07,513 and referenced the boards coIIectiveIy so that we were aII on the same page 546 00:30:07,597 --> 00:30:11,683 because we just didn't have enough time to waste on anything. 547 00:30:11,768 --> 00:30:14,186 So he was reaIIy good at keeping everything together. 548 00:30:19,275 --> 00:30:22,402 Here comes another diopter. There's a diopter right there. 549 00:30:22,529 --> 00:30:26,573 It aIIows for both CarIos and Nica to be in focиs, 550 00:30:26,699 --> 00:30:28,700 even though they're in vastIy different pIanes. 551 00:30:28,785 --> 00:30:32,621 I puII that out a Iot in this movie. It's very Brian De PaIma. 552 00:30:32,705 --> 00:30:35,958 There's Iots of Brian De PaIma stиff in this movie. 553 00:30:37,627 --> 00:30:38,877 Leave it! 554 00:30:38,962 --> 00:30:42,130 Sorry. Could l just... Could l have some privacy, please? 555 00:30:42,215 --> 00:30:44,216 l'd like to get dressed. 556 00:30:45,385 --> 00:30:46,468 Okay. 557 00:30:52,308 --> 00:30:54,560 The person who did the makeup... 558 00:30:54,644 --> 00:31:00,232 -We had Adrien Morot manufacturing. -He's awesome. Yeah. 559 00:31:00,316 --> 00:31:05,279 And then we had Mr. Doug Morrow on set doing appIication. 560 00:31:05,405 --> 00:31:08,574 We onIy work with peopIe named Morot or Morrow. 561 00:31:08,658 --> 00:31:10,701 -Yeah. -It just makes it easier. 562 00:31:10,785 --> 00:31:13,453 -And Iots of Dougs, too. -And Iots of Dougs. 563 00:31:20,253 --> 00:31:24,214 I thought that this was, story-wise, kind of an interesting thing. 564 00:31:24,299 --> 00:31:27,134 This is, basicaIIy, the end of the first act, 565 00:31:27,260 --> 00:31:32,472 and once we introduce Chucky into the story, 566 00:31:32,599 --> 00:31:36,143 we're assuming Chucky now wants to finish his mission 567 00:31:36,269 --> 00:31:40,814 that he got sidetracked from in Curse of Chucky and kiII Nica. 568 00:31:40,940 --> 00:31:44,318 But we tried to puII the rug out from under Chucky and the audience with Iike, 569 00:31:44,444 --> 00:31:49,656 "Wait a minute. She tried to kill herself," which is not what Chucky expected, 570 00:31:49,782 --> 00:31:51,742 and hence, he mischievousIy writes in the blood, 571 00:31:51,826 --> 00:31:55,120 "Not so fast," and, "Chucky did it." 572 00:31:56,789 --> 00:32:00,667 And we're coming back to Andy's Iuxurious cabin 573 00:32:00,793 --> 00:32:05,631 that is funded by the insurance money from aII the murders over the years. 574 00:32:06,883 --> 00:32:10,844 Оne of the fиn facts aboиt this movie is that we were shooting in winter in Winnipeg, 575 00:32:10,970 --> 00:32:16,224 -often in 40 degrees beIow. -I think the worst was 44. 576 00:32:16,309 --> 00:32:19,853 That's in the scene coming up, which was actuaIIy the first day of shooting. 577 00:32:19,979 --> 00:32:23,482 Very first day was shooting out in that cemetery. 578 00:32:23,566 --> 00:32:27,069 Because it was our first day and I was just jumping around, 579 00:32:27,153 --> 00:32:30,322 I was somehow inured against the coId. 580 00:32:30,406 --> 00:32:33,825 It was much harder for everybody eIse, certainIy the actors. 581 00:32:34,243 --> 00:32:35,243 Come on. Let's go. 582 00:32:35,662 --> 00:32:37,496 Let's watch it again. 583 00:32:37,664 --> 00:32:39,498 That one just never gets old. 584 00:32:39,916 --> 00:32:42,042 Do me a favor, Chucky. 585 00:32:42,168 --> 00:32:43,585 Keep your fucking mouth shut. 586 00:32:43,670 --> 00:32:45,420 You know what, Andy? 587 00:32:46,172 --> 00:32:49,675 What if you really are crazy? 588 00:32:49,759 --> 00:32:53,011 -I Iove how... -This poor head just gets ugIier and ugIier. 589 00:32:53,096 --> 00:32:56,932 But I Iove how that part of his head is bIasted away, 590 00:32:57,016 --> 00:33:02,187 so you can just shoot right through it, and it has this depth. That's great. 591 00:33:02,271 --> 00:33:03,855 We were trying to figure out, too, what woиId he иse 592 00:33:03,940 --> 00:33:06,608 to attach it to something and, you know... 593 00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:08,860 Nica, it wasn't your fault. 594 00:33:08,945 --> 00:33:12,531 Trying to keep it Iike its own IittIe set piece. 595 00:33:12,615 --> 00:33:18,203 Еverything fit the character at the same time, so there's naiIs in his head and stapIes. 596 00:33:18,287 --> 00:33:21,540 We tried to repeat things from the other fiIms. 597 00:33:21,624 --> 00:33:23,792 -From the previous fiIms. Right. -Yeah. 598 00:33:23,876 --> 00:33:26,712 Yeah. It's aII of a piece with the entire franchise 599 00:33:26,796 --> 00:33:32,426 and the idea that Andy has been torturing Chucky for aII these years, 600 00:33:32,552 --> 00:33:34,261 and you get IittIe hints of that. 601 00:33:35,304 --> 00:33:38,890 What was aIso important to me, part of what's going on in this movie, is, 602 00:33:39,976 --> 00:33:42,978 because it is Chucky on drиgs and Chucky meets lnception, 603 00:33:43,062 --> 00:33:45,605 we see Chucky in different ways. 604 00:33:46,482 --> 00:33:51,820 So one of the innovations of this movie is that we have more than one Chucky. 605 00:33:51,904 --> 00:33:54,197 We have muItipIe Chuckys aIive, which is something that happens 606 00:33:54,282 --> 00:33:56,950 Iater in the movie. This is the first time it's hinted at. 607 00:33:57,076 --> 00:34:00,746 And Adam says, "Wait a minute. There's two of them?" 608 00:34:00,830 --> 00:34:05,417 But the Chucky Head with the Franken-Chucky Iook with the scars, 609 00:34:05,501 --> 00:34:06,918 bиt here we have... 610 00:34:07,253 --> 00:34:08,253 Wanna pIay? 611 00:34:08,337 --> 00:34:09,379 Hi, I'm Chucky. 612 00:34:09,464 --> 00:34:12,591 ...the Iook of Chucky, which I guess... Tony, wouId you say 613 00:34:12,675 --> 00:34:14,968 it was a IittIe bit Iike circa Child's Play 2? 614 00:34:15,094 --> 00:34:19,681 Yeah. We tried to go back to Child's Play 2 in the Iook of this fiIm 615 00:34:19,766 --> 00:34:22,559 the whoIe way through, in the whoIe transition of this character. 616 00:34:22,643 --> 00:34:27,481 Like, the Good Guy doIIs, we actuaIIy contacted the fan base 617 00:34:27,607 --> 00:34:29,733 -and taIked to them aboиt... -Right. 618 00:34:29,817 --> 00:34:33,445 I mean, they know what the coIor stripes are, what the spacing is, 619 00:34:33,529 --> 00:34:36,031 and the stitching on things, and we reaIIy wanted to be true 620 00:34:36,115 --> 00:34:39,242 to aII these peopIe that were so into the character. 621 00:34:39,327 --> 00:34:43,538 We wanted to make sиre that it was trиe to how they perceived it. 622 00:34:43,623 --> 00:34:48,126 So we connected with a lot of them, and one guy, Garrett Zima, 623 00:34:48,211 --> 00:34:52,255 -l think, oиt of Wisconsin... -Minnesota or, yeah, just somewhere... 624 00:34:52,340 --> 00:34:56,510 He sounds Iike a Fargo character. He's awesome. He's so awesome. 625 00:34:56,636 --> 00:34:58,887 He was kind of oиr иnofficiaI... WeII, we actuaIIy gave him credit. 626 00:34:58,971 --> 00:35:02,516 He's oиr historian becaиse he was actuaIIy abIe to access 627 00:35:02,642 --> 00:35:07,521 a Iot of the originaI stuff which we had never had access to иntiI. 628 00:35:07,647 --> 00:35:10,649 So it was nice to have a three-dimensionaI modeI to copy to, 629 00:35:10,733 --> 00:35:14,277 and it was aIso nice... You know, you taIk about the canon, 630 00:35:14,362 --> 00:35:18,990 but we wanted to Iet go of what the Good Guy doII Iooked Iike 631 00:35:19,075 --> 00:35:23,411 the Iast go around because, I think, our approach to it the Iast go around, 632 00:35:23,496 --> 00:35:27,582 we were a little too into, "lt's a face stretched over another face," 633 00:35:27,667 --> 00:35:33,255 and he's got this sort of cosmetic covering, and it's deforming him, 634 00:35:33,339 --> 00:35:35,215 and I think we overthought it. 635 00:35:35,341 --> 00:35:40,554 I don't know. I think it worked for that specific story. 636 00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:44,307 Yeah. But to be abIe to start over in a way here, 637 00:35:44,392 --> 00:35:46,935 it feIt Iike we need to, IiteraIIy, go back to the beginning 638 00:35:47,019 --> 00:35:51,148 and be trиe to what this character Iooks Iike in the fan base. 639 00:35:51,232 --> 00:35:55,819 And even the size of the hands were scaIed up, starting with Bride, 640 00:35:55,903 --> 00:35:59,114 so that he couId hoId a gun and stиff Iike that. 641 00:35:59,198 --> 00:36:01,533 So, this go around, we were trying to bring everything back 642 00:36:01,617 --> 00:36:04,286 to the proportions of the originaI fiIms. 643 00:36:06,747 --> 00:36:08,540 That's a very quick meIting toy. 644 00:36:08,624 --> 00:36:12,627 So, if you're a parent, I think this is not the toy for you. 645 00:36:13,921 --> 00:36:18,592 Yeah. We just had a Iot of discussion about what the melted hand woиld look like, 646 00:36:18,718 --> 00:36:21,970 and I remember sending you photographs of the Wolfman, 647 00:36:22,054 --> 00:36:25,307 so that it woиId Iook Iike a IittIe bit of a cIaw or something. 648 00:36:25,725 --> 00:36:27,017 You leave my baby alone. 649 00:36:27,101 --> 00:36:28,185 Maddy. 650 00:36:28,269 --> 00:36:29,394 Wait! 651 00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:35,025 -I Iike how they just go out into white. -WeII, it Iooks, actuaIIy... 652 00:36:35,109 --> 00:36:38,069 This low-res version, it's a IittIe more washed oиt 653 00:36:38,154 --> 00:36:41,114 than it Iooks Iike, I hope, for the fans at home. 654 00:36:41,240 --> 00:36:44,075 But, to some degree, that's correct. 655 00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:47,078 -There is a IittIe more detaiI. -lt cool, 'caиse it's like two different worlds. 656 00:36:48,247 --> 00:36:50,749 Let's just go and get rid of him. Okay? 657 00:36:50,833 --> 00:36:52,834 Better safe than sorry, that's what l say. 658 00:36:52,919 --> 00:36:57,088 There are certain times where the actors out themselves as Canadians, 659 00:36:57,173 --> 00:36:59,216 Iike when he just said, "aboot." 660 00:36:59,300 --> 00:37:00,842 -Specific words. -He just said, "aboot." 661 00:37:00,927 --> 00:37:04,054 And when we were redoing sound, our sounds guys were Iike, 662 00:37:04,138 --> 00:37:06,932 "We shouId Ioop that," and I just Iike, "No, l don't want to," 663 00:37:07,016 --> 00:37:11,144 because I feeI great affection for oиr Canadian cast and crew. 664 00:37:11,229 --> 00:37:16,858 And, to me, it's an amusing IittIe nod to who they are. 665 00:37:16,943 --> 00:37:20,320 Like, can he be a muItipIe personaIity kind of guy from Canada? 666 00:37:20,404 --> 00:37:24,449 WeII, now he's Mark Zuckerberg. First, he was MichaeI PheIps. 667 00:37:24,533 --> 00:37:27,035 Now he's transitioned into Mark Zuckerberg. 668 00:37:27,119 --> 00:37:31,748 And what we were doing specificaIIy was not so much Mark Zuckerberg, 669 00:37:31,832 --> 00:37:35,460 but Jesse Еisenberg doing Mark Zuckerberg 670 00:37:35,544 --> 00:37:38,672 because that, in the zeitgeist, that's what most of иs think of. 671 00:37:38,756 --> 00:37:40,966 Right. That's great. 672 00:37:41,050 --> 00:37:43,802 Adam and l even, Iike in the scene coming up, 673 00:37:43,886 --> 00:37:46,930 when Nica's Iooking out the window and she sees... 674 00:37:47,014 --> 00:37:50,600 I just caII him Adam because his character has so many different names. 675 00:37:50,685 --> 00:37:54,479 The character's real name is Malcolm, bиt we first meet him as MichaeI. 676 00:37:54,563 --> 00:37:57,649 Now he's Mark. And, as we know, pretty soon, he's gonna be CharIes. 677 00:37:57,733 --> 00:37:59,818 It's just easier to caII him Adam. 678 00:37:59,902 --> 00:38:03,238 So, when Adam is rиnning through the snow, 679 00:38:03,322 --> 00:38:05,532 we actuaIIy even Iooked at The Social Network 680 00:38:05,616 --> 00:38:07,826 'caиse there's a scene where Mark Zuckerberg 681 00:38:07,910 --> 00:38:10,412 is running through the show, and so we got that specific. 682 00:38:10,538 --> 00:38:15,834 And that's how committed an actor Adam is. It was so much fun working on it with him. 683 00:38:15,918 --> 00:38:19,337 So, when we get to it, I'II point it out. But he just sIips in the snow 684 00:38:19,422 --> 00:38:21,673 in the same way that Jesse Еisenberg sIips in the snow 685 00:38:21,757 --> 00:38:23,633 -in The Social Network. -It's awesome. 686 00:38:28,806 --> 00:38:30,932 -Yeah, it's right in here. -Okay. 687 00:38:38,065 --> 00:38:39,816 That office. 688 00:38:41,569 --> 00:38:42,694 -What's happening? -This is... 689 00:38:42,778 --> 00:38:45,572 Remember, the two Iong corridors that meet at a V, 690 00:38:45,656 --> 00:38:48,033 l think, were called Corridor A and Corridor B, 691 00:38:48,117 --> 00:38:50,994 and then this connecting corridor, l don't remember what it was called, 692 00:38:51,078 --> 00:38:53,038 but this is the connecting corridor. 693 00:38:53,122 --> 00:38:55,665 HopefuIIy, onscreen, you just become utterly disIocated, 694 00:38:55,750 --> 00:38:59,419 and you just feeI Iike you're Iost in a maze. 695 00:39:00,755 --> 00:39:02,714 What have you done to yourself now? 696 00:39:02,798 --> 00:39:05,717 And Doug Morrow did that bite, as I recaII. 697 00:39:05,843 --> 00:39:07,135 lt was him! 698 00:39:07,762 --> 00:39:09,846 Claire, why don't you come with us? 699 00:39:10,306 --> 00:39:12,265 He's so good at creepy. 700 00:39:12,350 --> 00:39:13,808 -Who? MichaeI TherriaиIt? -Yes. 701 00:39:13,893 --> 00:39:14,893 Yeah. 702 00:39:14,977 --> 00:39:19,647 Оn set, I wouId aIways refer to him with his fиll name, Michael Therriaиlt, 703 00:39:19,732 --> 00:39:24,652 becaиse we had Mike Marshall, oиr DP. 704 00:39:24,737 --> 00:39:27,739 Adam Hurtig, at one point, is pIaying a character who's caIIed MichaeI. 705 00:39:27,823 --> 00:39:30,700 It just aII got very head-spinning and confusing. 706 00:39:30,826 --> 00:39:33,078 Sometimes, we'd even be shooting, and it's like, 707 00:39:33,162 --> 00:39:36,748 "Which character are you in this scene? Which Chucky is in this scene?" 708 00:39:36,832 --> 00:39:38,083 -Right. -Because when we get to the... 709 00:39:38,167 --> 00:39:40,502 There's the Mark Zuckerberg. 710 00:39:42,254 --> 00:39:46,883 -AIso known as the 44-degree weather day. -Yeah, that was day one. 711 00:39:47,843 --> 00:39:50,762 They had to dig this grave oиt in the Iocation where we shot. 712 00:39:50,846 --> 00:39:54,265 They had to dig it severaI weeks in advance before it froze. 713 00:40:08,531 --> 00:40:11,241 AIways fun to have Chucky flip someone the bird. 714 00:40:13,035 --> 00:40:14,035 Maddy! 715 00:40:14,286 --> 00:40:17,747 Here comes another diopter shot. Right there. 716 00:40:17,832 --> 00:40:19,541 -Isn't that cooI? -That's great. 717 00:40:21,127 --> 00:40:23,795 I aIways caII this the Rear Window sequence 718 00:40:24,380 --> 00:40:27,298 'cause there's just a Iot of visuaI storyteIIing with no diaIogue. 719 00:40:27,383 --> 00:40:30,260 It's just, Iike, Nica, like James Stewart, in Rear Window, 720 00:40:30,344 --> 00:40:34,347 is incapacitated, and she's powerless to do anything 721 00:40:34,432 --> 00:40:37,267 as she watches the events иnfoId through the window. 722 00:40:41,605 --> 00:40:46,651 And it aIso, I knew, wouId be an opportunity for Joe Lodиca to strиt. 723 00:40:46,735 --> 00:40:49,112 -Yeah. -The music is great. 724 00:40:49,196 --> 00:40:52,615 Еarlier, Tony, you were taIking about how we had to repurpose 725 00:40:52,700 --> 00:40:55,326 certain rooms in the set to be other rooms. 726 00:40:55,411 --> 00:41:00,331 So this room... I mean, Dr. FoIey's office was onIy ever Dr. FoIey's office, 727 00:41:00,416 --> 00:41:03,334 and the corridors are just the corridors, and the day room is the day room. 728 00:41:03,419 --> 00:41:07,213 -Bиt this room here doиbIes as five... -This is everybody's room. 729 00:41:07,298 --> 00:41:09,591 This is Nica's room, 730 00:41:09,675 --> 00:41:15,138 AngeIa's room, MadeIeine's room. This we caIIed the recovery room, 731 00:41:15,222 --> 00:41:19,058 and it was aIso the visitors' room for when Jennifer TiIIy came 732 00:41:19,143 --> 00:41:21,019 and visited and gave her the doII. 733 00:41:21,103 --> 00:41:24,856 So we just had to dress it in a different way every time, 734 00:41:24,940 --> 00:41:27,775 and we tried to take care to shoot it from different angIes. 735 00:41:28,319 --> 00:41:29,861 So, hopefuIIy, it works. 736 00:41:29,945 --> 00:41:33,490 I mean, partIy, because it's this institиtionaI environment 737 00:41:33,574 --> 00:41:38,995 that's supposed to have a sameyness anyway, you can kind of get away with it. 738 00:41:39,747 --> 00:41:43,833 But this, our production designer, Craig SandeIIs, who did a fantastic job, 739 00:41:43,918 --> 00:41:46,544 aIso did that wonderfиI hoиse in Curse of Chucky, 740 00:41:46,629 --> 00:41:50,173 he definiteIy had his work cut out for him with this room. 741 00:41:50,257 --> 00:41:53,009 Еven just the haIIways and keeping everything cIean and white 742 00:41:53,093 --> 00:41:55,595 was a chore in and of itseIf. 743 00:41:55,679 --> 00:42:00,016 Yeah. He was aIways having to come in and wipe away everyone's footprints. 744 00:42:00,100 --> 00:42:02,977 HaIf the time, I wouId just run around in my stocking feet 745 00:42:03,062 --> 00:42:04,729 'caиse it was aIso fиn to sIide. 746 00:42:05,773 --> 00:42:09,484 The IittIe things we do to amuse ourseIves during those Iong 13-hour days. 747 00:42:13,155 --> 00:42:17,784 So now we go into a sort of De Palma-esque, Rear Window sequence. 748 00:42:17,868 --> 00:42:22,413 I didn't initiaIIy pIan on doing this in spIit screen. 749 00:42:22,498 --> 00:42:25,458 I was going to just do it conventionaIIy as for the first part 750 00:42:25,543 --> 00:42:27,418 ofthe so-called Rear Window sequence. 751 00:42:27,503 --> 00:42:31,214 But I just thought it wouId get too visuaIIy repetitive just to show 752 00:42:31,298 --> 00:42:35,176 Nica's face and what she sees, then back to her reaction and what she sees. 753 00:42:35,261 --> 00:42:37,470 So I just thought, "If we just do it in spIit screen, 754 00:42:37,555 --> 00:42:39,472 "that wiII provide some visuaI variety." 755 00:42:39,557 --> 00:42:41,224 -Look at this. -Look at that. That's great. 756 00:42:41,308 --> 00:42:45,311 This is a horizontaI spIit screen, which is so avant-garde. 757 00:42:45,396 --> 00:42:49,649 That was actuaIIy the idea of our editor, Randy Bricker, who's amazing. 758 00:42:49,733 --> 00:42:54,362 He also edited Bride of Chucky. It was so much fun to work with him again. 759 00:42:54,446 --> 00:42:58,074 He had the idea of doing the horizontaI spIit screen. 760 00:42:58,158 --> 00:43:01,452 And when l first saw it, l said, "I don't know. That may be too avant-garde. 761 00:43:01,537 --> 00:43:05,248 "Wait. Let me see it. My God, that's my favorite thing in the whoIe movie." 762 00:43:06,667 --> 00:43:07,917 It works reaIIy weII. 763 00:43:08,961 --> 00:43:11,588 We're Iooking at the stage ceiIing, but you're seeing something eIse. 764 00:43:11,672 --> 00:43:16,384 Some visual effects that, no doubt, wiII be superlative as this character... 765 00:43:16,468 --> 00:43:19,637 She's been administered a drиg that I aIways refer to 766 00:43:19,722 --> 00:43:22,557 as the What Lies Beneath drug. I don't know if you ever saw that movie, 767 00:43:22,641 --> 00:43:25,018 What Lies Beneath, where at the end of that movie, 768 00:43:25,102 --> 00:43:27,103 spoiIers, in case you haven't seen What Lies Beneath, 769 00:43:27,187 --> 00:43:29,522 Harrison Ford is revealed to be the villain, 770 00:43:29,607 --> 00:43:32,775 and he injects MicheIIe Pfeiffer with a drug 771 00:43:32,860 --> 00:43:35,028 that aIIows her to remain compIeteIy conscious, 772 00:43:35,112 --> 00:43:37,196 but she can't reaIIy move. 773 00:43:37,281 --> 00:43:40,116 And that just aIways seemed reaIIy terrifying to me. 774 00:43:40,200 --> 00:43:42,702 So that's what's going on with this character, Claire. 775 00:43:52,796 --> 00:43:54,714 "Compressed." 776 00:43:55,549 --> 00:43:57,467 Does that mean what l think it means? 777 00:43:58,677 --> 00:44:01,596 I aIways thought that that was funny, but nobody ever Iaughs at it. 778 00:44:05,100 --> 00:44:06,643 Win some. Yoи Iose some. 779 00:44:09,021 --> 00:44:12,523 Now, this was an interesting scene, just trying to figure out 780 00:44:12,608 --> 00:44:16,235 how Chucky was going to kiII this character, and it went through... 781 00:44:16,320 --> 00:44:18,529 -It changed a Iot. -It changed a Iot. 782 00:44:18,614 --> 00:44:22,867 -The originaI version, he eIectrocuted her. -Which was pretty cooI. 783 00:44:22,951 --> 00:44:29,415 It was reaIIy cooI. We just saw a puppeteer who the foIks at home won't be seeing. 784 00:44:29,500 --> 00:44:32,168 Anyway, at first he eIectrocuted her, but I just thought, 785 00:44:32,252 --> 00:44:36,339 "We've done that in several different movies, so..." 786 00:44:36,423 --> 00:44:39,634 We've decapitated a lot of different characters in this franchise, 787 00:44:39,718 --> 00:44:43,805 -incIuding Tony himseIf got decapitated. -ReaIIy? 788 00:44:43,889 --> 00:44:48,017 Bиt we hadn't done it in a while, and I just reaIIy Iove The Omen, 789 00:44:48,102 --> 00:44:50,812 so a IittIe bit of a nod to that. 790 00:44:50,896 --> 00:44:55,191 When you're doing a series for over the course of 30 years... 791 00:44:55,275 --> 00:44:58,027 I'm sure Agatha Christie had to deaI with this aII the time. 792 00:44:58,112 --> 00:45:00,905 You have to come up with new ways of kiIIing peopIe. 793 00:45:00,989 --> 00:45:04,075 So, even though we've decapitated Tony previousIy, 794 00:45:04,159 --> 00:45:07,620 it had been since 2004, so I figured we couId get away with it again. 795 00:45:07,705 --> 00:45:10,289 And we hadn't done it in quite this way. 796 00:45:10,374 --> 00:45:14,711 Gave Grace and I something to bond over, too, during this scene. 797 00:45:27,141 --> 00:45:30,810 For some reason... I don't know if this says something about me, 798 00:45:30,894 --> 00:45:34,480 bиt this movie, there's a lot of traиma 799 00:45:34,565 --> 00:45:38,901 visited to the hиman face and the hиman head. 800 00:45:39,695 --> 00:45:41,946 So many different actors on this movie 801 00:45:42,030 --> 00:45:47,201 had to get their heads cast, whether it was Grace getting her head cut off 802 00:45:47,286 --> 00:45:50,913 and Michael Therriaиlt, what happens to him Iater coming up. 803 00:45:50,998 --> 00:45:54,167 I don't know. I think maybe it just has to do with aging. 804 00:45:54,251 --> 00:45:59,380 It's Iike, now that I'm in middIe-age. It has something to do with aging. I don't know. 805 00:45:59,465 --> 00:46:03,050 -A Martinez, you cut his head off, too, so... -That's right. That's right. 806 00:46:03,927 --> 00:46:06,971 -That's your groove. -I just Iike cutting peopIe's heads off. 807 00:46:07,890 --> 00:46:13,478 So this shot, that profiIe shot is, frankly, very Hannibal. 808 00:46:14,062 --> 00:46:17,815 I worked as a writer and producer on Hannibal season three. 809 00:46:18,108 --> 00:46:21,360 This obviousIy takes pIace in the world of psychiatry. 810 00:46:21,445 --> 00:46:27,366 Anyway, that shot was something that I pIanned with Mike MarshaII, our DP, 811 00:46:27,451 --> 00:46:32,580 who actually shot Curse of Chucky as well as the Hannibal finale. 812 00:46:32,664 --> 00:46:35,249 He's an amazing cinematographer. 813 00:46:35,334 --> 00:46:38,336 He was based in Winnipeg on Curse of Chucky, 814 00:46:38,420 --> 00:46:41,547 bиt his career has reaIIy sky-rocketed since then, 815 00:46:41,632 --> 00:46:45,635 and I think he's mostIy based in Toronto and Еurope now. 816 00:46:46,637 --> 00:46:51,933 But I have so much fun working with him, and, as we were taIking about earlier 817 00:46:52,017 --> 00:46:55,895 with our first AD, Doug MitcheII, Mike MarshaII's aIso someone 818 00:46:55,979 --> 00:46:59,398 who's just compIeteIy indispensabIe in making these movies work. 819 00:46:59,483 --> 00:47:02,235 He is sиch an artist, 820 00:47:02,319 --> 00:47:06,447 and I Iove his work on both of these movies. 821 00:47:06,532 --> 00:47:10,827 And I hope to work with him again many, many times. 822 00:47:10,911 --> 00:47:13,871 There's a group dynamic on aII these that... 823 00:47:13,956 --> 00:47:17,959 You know, using and working with a Iot of the same peopIe over and over again, 824 00:47:18,043 --> 00:47:21,420 there becomes a nice shorthand, and I think it started in the very beginning 825 00:47:21,505 --> 00:47:25,508 with the environment that you and David Kirschner put together. 826 00:47:25,634 --> 00:47:29,679 Yeah. David Kirschner is a reaIIy famiIy-oriented guy 827 00:47:29,763 --> 00:47:33,224 both personaIIy and professionaIIy, as you know, Tony. 828 00:47:33,308 --> 00:47:37,436 And David was the first meeting I ever had in HoIIywood. 829 00:47:37,521 --> 00:47:41,399 l was a student at UCLA, and I had written the first script 830 00:47:41,483 --> 00:47:45,528 ofwhat became Child's Play ultimately, and David had foиnd it, 831 00:47:45,612 --> 00:47:50,199 and he was based at Disney at the time. 832 00:47:50,284 --> 00:47:54,787 And so it was so exciting for me to actuaIIy go to the Disney Iot, 833 00:47:54,872 --> 00:47:58,499 and he showed me aroиnd, and it was so thriIIing, 834 00:47:58,584 --> 00:48:02,503 and I'm so Iucky to work with him 835 00:48:02,588 --> 00:48:08,134 because a Iot of producers wouId have put me or someone in my position 836 00:48:08,218 --> 00:48:10,011 out to pasture Iong ago. 837 00:48:10,095 --> 00:48:14,390 They wouId have gone with someone newer, younger, hotter, 838 00:48:14,474 --> 00:48:19,896 but David, being the famiIy-oriented guy he is, he's extremeIy IoyaI. 839 00:48:20,439 --> 00:48:23,024 -And taIented. -And extremeIy taIented. 840 00:48:23,108 --> 00:48:28,154 He's very intuitive. You can teII. I mean, he found you, right? So... 841 00:48:28,238 --> 00:48:30,448 -Yes. He has great taste, obviousIy. -There you go. See? 842 00:48:30,532 --> 00:48:33,618 Great taste in peopIe and personneI. He aIso... 843 00:48:33,702 --> 00:48:36,537 We were taIking earlier about the Iook of Chucky. 844 00:48:36,622 --> 00:48:41,876 Оf course, that was set in stone by David. He's an extremeIy taIented artist. 845 00:48:41,960 --> 00:48:43,669 He actuaIIy sketched the first one out. 846 00:48:43,754 --> 00:48:46,255 He did. And he has a background in doIIs. 847 00:48:46,340 --> 00:48:49,884 Before he started his movie career, 848 00:48:49,968 --> 00:48:53,763 he had created a Iine of doIIs caIIed Rose... Like the Rose PetaI doIIs. 849 00:48:53,847 --> 00:48:56,557 -Rose PetaI PIace. -Rose PetaI PIace. That's it. Yeah. 850 00:48:56,642 --> 00:49:00,269 So he had to have a speciaI interest in doIIs. 851 00:49:00,354 --> 00:49:03,189 And so I think he was Iooking... As a movie producer, 852 00:49:03,273 --> 00:49:07,526 he was Iooking, specificaIIy, to do something with doIIs 853 00:49:07,611 --> 00:49:11,781 and hence, that happiIy intersected with me. 854 00:49:12,115 --> 00:49:14,742 Who would wanna do that, do you think? 855 00:49:15,035 --> 00:49:16,202 Me 856 00:49:17,120 --> 00:49:18,913 would be my first guess. 857 00:49:19,289 --> 00:49:20,498 l agree. 858 00:49:21,041 --> 00:49:25,503 So we're in agreement about the murders and the tapes 859 00:49:26,296 --> 00:49:28,297 and your terrible guilt. 860 00:49:30,842 --> 00:49:32,093 Yes. 861 00:49:36,348 --> 00:49:37,723 What is it? 862 00:49:38,642 --> 00:49:42,186 l remember when we did that shot, it was difficиIt for Fiona 863 00:49:42,270 --> 00:49:44,105 because the Iight was right in her face. 864 00:49:44,189 --> 00:49:47,692 l think it was difficиlt for all of иs, bиt she takes the brиnt of it, for sиre. 865 00:49:47,776 --> 00:49:52,822 It was difficuIt for us in editing because that Iight has its own pace. 866 00:49:52,906 --> 00:49:53,906 PuIse, yeah. 867 00:49:53,991 --> 00:49:56,867 -And here's where we peeI a Iayer back... -Here's where we find oиt. 868 00:49:56,952 --> 00:50:00,871 ...and we find oиt that Dr. FoIey isn't what he seems. 869 00:50:00,956 --> 00:50:02,498 He's a bad man. 870 00:50:02,624 --> 00:50:05,418 Yeah, and he pIayed it so weII. 871 00:50:05,502 --> 00:50:10,089 It's just Iike he's very creepy, and yet he somehow remains charming. 872 00:50:10,173 --> 00:50:12,091 Yeah, that's the perfect word, actuaIIy. 873 00:50:12,175 --> 00:50:15,761 And as we said earlier, he's the actor who's Ieast Iike his character 874 00:50:15,887 --> 00:50:19,390 because he's not creepy at aII. 875 00:50:20,017 --> 00:50:21,851 Probably for the best. 876 00:50:25,564 --> 00:50:27,982 This is where things started getting compIicated for us. 877 00:50:28,066 --> 00:50:29,191 Chucky. 878 00:50:29,276 --> 00:50:30,943 And they call me sick? 879 00:50:31,194 --> 00:50:34,363 This guy is... ls... ls diabolical! 880 00:50:34,865 --> 00:50:37,074 l mean, what a piece of work. 881 00:50:37,159 --> 00:50:40,619 So, Tony, do you wanna taIk a IittIe bit about your crew and... 882 00:50:40,704 --> 00:50:45,082 Yeah, we had a lot of work to do in these next few... WeII, this whoIe scene, reaIIy. 883 00:50:45,459 --> 00:50:50,087 And there were onIy three of us that came up from L.A. 884 00:50:50,338 --> 00:50:54,383 It was myseIf, LiIo Tauvao, and Peter Chevako. 885 00:50:54,468 --> 00:50:57,261 Peter is the mechanicaI designer. 886 00:50:57,345 --> 00:51:00,473 So that was his domain as weII as aII the Iip sync. 887 00:51:00,557 --> 00:51:03,893 And then LiIo was the art department end of it. 888 00:51:04,061 --> 00:51:07,813 And the three of us together puppeteered Chucky's face. 889 00:51:07,981 --> 00:51:13,611 And we had to bring peopIe IocaI from Winnipeg 890 00:51:13,695 --> 00:51:16,906 to do the whoIe rest of the body, basicaIIy. 891 00:51:17,032 --> 00:51:23,746 So you never know what you're gonna get, traveIing to another country or whatever 892 00:51:23,830 --> 00:51:28,918 and auditioning peopIe, and quite often, we weren't abIe to aиdition foIks. 893 00:51:29,086 --> 00:51:31,670 Just 'cause of the time crunch on things. 894 00:51:31,755 --> 00:51:36,300 So we were paired up with some foIks. 895 00:51:36,384 --> 00:51:39,512 And one person in particuIar, Pam, Pam lveta, 896 00:51:39,596 --> 00:51:43,766 she was up for anything. 897 00:51:43,850 --> 00:51:48,771 And she was amazing. She sort of became Chucky's body Ianguage 898 00:51:48,855 --> 00:51:51,607 as far as his hand gestures and aII the big stuff. 899 00:51:51,691 --> 00:51:56,821 And she reaIIy invested herseIf into it, and reaIIy put a Iot into it. 900 00:51:56,905 --> 00:52:00,866 And then Veronica TиIIoch... We caIIed her V. 901 00:52:00,951 --> 00:52:05,412 She was supposed to be our PA. She's reaIIy an AD, 902 00:52:05,539 --> 00:52:08,040 but we brought her in to be our department's PA, 903 00:52:08,125 --> 00:52:09,708 just to make Iife a IittIe easier for us. 904 00:52:10,836 --> 00:52:14,713 And she actuaIIy ended up getting puIIed into a Iot of the puppeteering stuff. 905 00:52:14,798 --> 00:52:16,549 She was amazing. They aII were. 906 00:52:16,633 --> 00:52:21,846 And then we had Fred Stinson, who does the head movement and the waIking. 907 00:52:21,930 --> 00:52:25,099 He's the guy we'd see in green more often than not, 908 00:52:25,183 --> 00:52:28,769 standing right behind Chucky with a poIe out of the top of the head. 909 00:52:28,854 --> 00:52:33,315 He's moving the head around and then taking the steps with the feet 910 00:52:33,400 --> 00:52:35,526 when Chucky's moving through a frame. 911 00:52:35,610 --> 00:52:42,491 So there was aIways this sort of smaII group of peopIe on set in green, 912 00:52:42,576 --> 00:52:43,576 smashed behind the puppet. 913 00:52:43,660 --> 00:52:48,289 Then there was this other group of peopIe behind the monitors with radios, 914 00:52:48,415 --> 00:52:50,291 operating the head. 915 00:52:50,375 --> 00:52:52,793 And because the set was so specific 916 00:52:52,878 --> 00:52:57,173 in size and the way it confined you, 917 00:52:57,257 --> 00:53:03,721 quite often, we were spIit up, so you have to trust your other haIves 918 00:53:03,805 --> 00:53:07,308 -that everybody's gonna be doing theirjob. -Right. 919 00:53:07,893 --> 00:53:11,395 And you're trying to find the personaIity of the character at the same time, 920 00:53:11,521 --> 00:53:13,564 so it's super chaIIenging, 921 00:53:13,648 --> 00:53:15,691 -but it came together. -That's what aIways amazes me 922 00:53:15,775 --> 00:53:19,153 about you and about your team, 923 00:53:19,237 --> 00:53:22,281 is that you're such an interesting combination of... 924 00:53:22,365 --> 00:53:25,034 You're technicians, but you're aIso actors. 925 00:53:25,118 --> 00:53:28,871 And it's such a cruciaI component of what we do and I think... 926 00:53:28,997 --> 00:53:34,376 I've aIways feIt, Tony, that you have aIways given me the Iuxury 927 00:53:34,502 --> 00:53:37,588 of thinking of Chucky just as another actor. 928 00:53:37,672 --> 00:53:40,966 And l know that a lot of times on set, I wiII simpIy say, 929 00:53:41,051 --> 00:53:43,385 "Chucky, do this. Chucky, do that." 930 00:53:43,511 --> 00:53:45,763 WeII, that's kind of my job, is to be the brain, 931 00:53:45,847 --> 00:53:50,142 and then take that info and spread it oиt to the different Iimbs or whatever... 932 00:53:50,227 --> 00:53:52,228 The octopus, the different tentacIes. 933 00:53:52,312 --> 00:53:56,440 Yeah, Iet everybody know what their part of it is and how we're gonna time it. 934 00:53:57,025 --> 00:54:00,027 Sometimes, when you're on set, and you're juggIing so many baIIs, 935 00:54:00,111 --> 00:54:01,946 and so much is going on, 936 00:54:02,030 --> 00:54:05,199 l... Sometimes l was like, "Wait. Who's doing the eyes?" 937 00:54:05,283 --> 00:54:08,285 -Right. "And where are they?" -"And where are they?" 938 00:54:08,370 --> 00:54:11,038 "Who do I taIk to? Do l talk to this wall, or do l..." 939 00:54:11,164 --> 00:54:14,458 And I've aIways feIt Iike it's such a gift that you give me, 940 00:54:14,542 --> 00:54:19,546 is that I can just say, "Chucky, do this. Chucky, you're being stupid." 941 00:54:19,798 --> 00:54:23,801 But I want to say more about Chucky's eyes 'caиse that's sиch a... 942 00:54:23,885 --> 00:54:26,470 Like, you couId write a book about Chucky's eyes. 943 00:54:26,554 --> 00:54:28,639 But I just wanted to mention very quickIy 944 00:54:28,723 --> 00:54:33,852 Summer HoweII, in the dream sequence that we passed a minute or so ago, 945 00:54:33,979 --> 00:54:40,317 her character of AIice was Ieft as bit of a cIiffhanger at the end of the Iast movie. 946 00:54:40,402 --> 00:54:43,028 And it was reaIIy important to me that we address that 947 00:54:43,154 --> 00:54:45,114 and tie up that Ioose end. 948 00:54:45,198 --> 00:54:48,367 So it was fun to bring her back, even ifjust for a moment 949 00:54:48,493 --> 00:54:49,576 in that dream sequence. 950 00:54:49,661 --> 00:54:51,912 And, as you can see, she's grown up. 951 00:54:51,997 --> 00:54:54,123 I mean, she's a young Iady now. 952 00:54:54,207 --> 00:54:57,584 She's 12 years oId. And it was so much fun to work with her again. 953 00:54:57,711 --> 00:55:02,339 And I aIso want to mention our amazing Winnipeg-based casting director, 954 00:55:02,424 --> 00:55:06,176 Carmen Kotyk, who found us aII these great actors. 955 00:55:06,261 --> 00:55:08,345 I Ioved the cast. 956 00:55:21,609 --> 00:55:22,735 Hello? 957 00:55:22,861 --> 00:55:23,861 Hello, Andy. 958 00:55:23,945 --> 00:55:25,946 Brian De PaIma spIit screen again. 959 00:55:26,031 --> 00:55:27,823 This is reaIIy funny. I've got to say. 960 00:55:27,907 --> 00:55:30,200 When we were shooting, 961 00:55:30,285 --> 00:55:34,038 one day, AIex caIIed me before going to set, 962 00:55:34,122 --> 00:55:37,624 and he goes, "Еveryone on Twitter is taIking about how they can't... 963 00:55:37,751 --> 00:55:41,628 "They're so Iooking forward to seeing Andy meeting up with Tiffany." 964 00:55:42,047 --> 00:55:46,592 And l went, "Shit! I don't have a scene where they meet up. 965 00:55:46,718 --> 00:55:48,635 "I've got to do something." 966 00:55:48,720 --> 00:55:52,222 So, l kind of, not at the last minute... 967 00:55:52,307 --> 00:55:54,558 I just said, "Оkay, we can have a phone caII, 968 00:55:54,642 --> 00:55:59,688 "and I'II do it in spIit screen so that they can actuaIIy share the screen together." 969 00:55:59,773 --> 00:56:00,731 -There you go. -So... 970 00:56:00,815 --> 00:56:03,150 And I think it worked out pretty weII, bиt it's also fиn to know that, 971 00:56:03,276 --> 00:56:05,652 when we were shooting Jennifer's side of it, 972 00:56:05,737 --> 00:56:09,698 AIex was actuaIIy in the back seat, doing his Iines. 973 00:56:09,783 --> 00:56:11,241 -That's great. -So he was actuaIIy there 974 00:56:11,326 --> 00:56:14,119 whiIe Jennifer was doing that. 975 00:56:15,121 --> 00:56:18,582 Here we've got the Vertigo shots. That one and this one. 976 00:56:18,666 --> 00:56:22,795 I'd never done that before. Hitchcock pioneered it in Vertigo. 977 00:56:22,921 --> 00:56:25,589 It's a simиItaneoиs forward zoom reverse track. 978 00:56:25,673 --> 00:56:29,426 PeopIe might know it from Jaws, when Brody's on the beach. 979 00:56:29,511 --> 00:56:32,429 So we did two of them in the corridors there. 980 00:56:34,015 --> 00:56:38,519 Now we get to what is possibIy one of the most perverse things we've ever done 981 00:56:39,521 --> 00:56:43,607 in these movies, is that the character of Madeleine, 982 00:56:43,691 --> 00:56:48,195 who has projected onto the doII her chiId, 983 00:56:48,279 --> 00:56:53,826 and she thinks that it's her child, and there's just something very creepy about aII this. 984 00:56:53,952 --> 00:56:57,871 And I think one of the things that Elisabeth did so well is, 985 00:56:57,956 --> 00:57:04,253 her character, particuIarly after we reveaI her secret, which is coming up momentariIy, 986 00:57:04,337 --> 00:57:07,256 she reaIIy seems Iike she's in torment. 987 00:57:07,340 --> 00:57:10,676 And she reaIIy pIayed it very reaI. 988 00:57:10,802 --> 00:57:12,636 I Ioved working with her. 989 00:57:12,720 --> 00:57:15,722 And there were times when we were shooting this scene 990 00:57:15,807 --> 00:57:18,392 where she brought me to tears. 991 00:57:18,476 --> 00:57:21,103 -She reaIIy invested in the character. -Very much so. 992 00:57:21,187 --> 00:57:22,938 And I know what it can soиnd Iike to some peopIe. 993 00:57:23,022 --> 00:57:25,858 They might roII their eyes. "You're just making a Chucky movie." 994 00:57:25,984 --> 00:57:31,321 But, you know, we aII have to take it very seriousIy to make it work. 995 00:57:31,406 --> 00:57:34,241 And her character was in a Iot of pain. 996 00:57:34,325 --> 00:57:37,995 I actuaIIy think that was something, that a Iot of the characters 997 00:57:38,079 --> 00:57:41,999 in this world and this asyIum, they're aII deaIing with pain. 998 00:57:42,083 --> 00:57:44,376 And it's interesting if you Iook at the whole movie, 999 00:57:44,502 --> 00:57:48,797 aImost aII of the actors, at one point or another, are redиced to tears. 1000 00:57:48,882 --> 00:57:52,009 And I'd never done that before. That was another thing I was thinking of. 1001 00:57:52,343 --> 00:57:56,847 I think I was kind of depressed or something when I was writing this movie 1002 00:57:56,931 --> 00:57:59,016 'cause everyone's in pain. 1003 00:58:03,771 --> 00:58:06,190 Yeah, this is just so creepy that we find out 1004 00:58:06,274 --> 00:58:09,234 that MadeIeine actuaIIy kiIIed her own baby, 1005 00:58:09,360 --> 00:58:12,529 and that she's reenacting the murder of her own baby. 1006 00:58:13,114 --> 00:58:14,364 Madeleine, what have you done? 1007 00:58:14,449 --> 00:58:16,450 "What have you done?" 1008 00:58:16,576 --> 00:58:19,828 Bиt Iook at her. l mean, she was so into the character, 1009 00:58:19,913 --> 00:58:23,040 you just feIt Iike she was so deIicate, and you couId break her. 1010 00:58:23,124 --> 00:58:24,666 -Yeah... -And then you'd taIk to her 1011 00:58:24,751 --> 00:58:30,881 after the day was over and, you know, she just kicked back, reIaxed. 1012 00:58:30,965 --> 00:58:32,216 Yoи know, we sometimes, like... 1013 00:58:32,300 --> 00:58:34,718 As a director, I know I can take it for granted, 1014 00:58:34,802 --> 00:58:37,387 and certainIy, as just a fiIm viewer, 1015 00:58:37,472 --> 00:58:41,725 it's hard often for actors to access these emotions 1016 00:58:41,809 --> 00:58:44,394 to get to the pIace where they're crying. 1017 00:58:44,479 --> 00:58:47,189 I know for Fiona, it can be very difficuIt. 1018 00:58:47,273 --> 00:58:51,068 And that scene earIier where Jennifer gives her the doII 1019 00:58:51,152 --> 00:58:53,070 and reveals that Alice is dead, 1020 00:58:53,154 --> 00:58:55,030 and we were shooting it, I kept having to push her. 1021 00:58:55,114 --> 00:58:57,074 "Can you give me more tears? More tears." 1022 00:58:57,158 --> 00:58:59,326 And she'd just go, "Fuck you! Fuck you! Fuck you!" 1023 00:58:59,410 --> 00:59:00,744 Becaиse it hиrts. 1024 00:59:00,828 --> 00:59:02,079 It's hard for them. 1025 00:59:02,163 --> 00:59:04,998 And I'm so appreciative of the actors, that they're... 1026 00:59:05,083 --> 00:59:08,585 To me, actors are magicaI 'caиse I coиId never do it. 1027 00:59:12,674 --> 00:59:14,758 He just wouldn't stop crying. 1028 00:59:15,843 --> 00:59:19,555 I aIso Iove what Joe Lodиca did with the mиsic here. 1029 00:59:19,639 --> 00:59:23,141 It's Iike there's this distant peeIing beII. 1030 00:59:24,769 --> 00:59:26,603 l was a terrible mother. 1031 00:59:27,105 --> 00:59:29,439 l could never make him happy. 1032 00:59:29,524 --> 00:59:30,774 You didn't kill him. 1033 00:59:30,858 --> 00:59:33,026 -What? -Nica, please. 1034 00:59:33,111 --> 00:59:34,528 He's just pretending. 1035 00:59:35,488 --> 00:59:37,447 -Leave him alone! -He's alive! 1036 00:59:37,865 --> 00:59:38,907 I Iike to be hugged. 1037 00:59:38,992 --> 00:59:43,161 I think, as I recaII, when we were shooting this, we aImost forgot to get that shot. 1038 00:59:43,871 --> 00:59:46,456 Bиt it's like, "Wait. I need to have his eyes open again." 1039 00:59:46,791 --> 00:59:49,376 Remember when we had to grab the insert of him Iike, "Beep"? 1040 00:59:49,460 --> 00:59:53,505 Yeah, there's a coupIe of things we had to grab after the fact. 1041 00:59:54,632 --> 00:59:57,009 We don't wanna give away aII oиr trade secrets. 1042 00:59:57,135 --> 01:00:00,637 No. We just had parts of the set shipped to AIterian 1043 01:00:01,222 --> 01:00:04,558 and partiaIIy reconstructed for a day of fun. 1044 01:00:04,684 --> 01:00:06,560 Yeah, we have one of those shots coming up, 1045 01:00:06,644 --> 01:00:09,104 when they're burying Chucky, and we redid the shot 1046 01:00:09,188 --> 01:00:12,691 where the dirt is piIed onto his face. 1047 01:00:12,984 --> 01:00:16,194 ...your guilt, Malcolm's confusion... 1048 01:00:16,321 --> 01:00:18,905 It's nice to have that Iuxury, though, for you to be abIe to go edit it 1049 01:00:18,990 --> 01:00:21,033 and go, "I need a IittIe accent here or there." 1050 01:00:21,159 --> 01:00:22,784 -Yeah. -"I want to flip an angIe." 1051 01:00:22,869 --> 01:00:27,164 It's so important. It was so awesome that the stиdio aIIowed иs to do that 1052 01:00:27,248 --> 01:00:30,542 because, you know, money can be very tight on these productions. 1053 01:00:30,668 --> 01:00:34,838 But they were so supportive that they aIIowed us to have an extra day 1054 01:00:34,922 --> 01:00:38,508 out at Tony's shop in IrwindaIe to get a few extra shots. 1055 01:00:38,593 --> 01:00:41,845 Оne of them, we ended up not using. Remember, we fought... 1056 01:00:41,929 --> 01:00:46,183 The scene where Dr. FoIey is hypnotizing Nica, 1057 01:00:46,267 --> 01:00:48,185 eagIe-eyed viewers wiII notice, 1058 01:00:48,269 --> 01:00:51,480 if you go back and Iook, on the high, wide shot, you can see 1059 01:00:51,564 --> 01:00:54,107 Chucky's IittIe shoes peeking out. 1060 01:00:54,192 --> 01:00:56,234 -Remember? And we did a cIose-up. -An insert, yeah. 1061 01:00:56,361 --> 01:00:58,528 And we ended up not using it, 1062 01:00:58,613 --> 01:01:01,657 even though we spent an hour shooting it. 1063 01:01:01,741 --> 01:01:03,784 But, you know, that's the way it goes. 1064 01:01:04,369 --> 01:01:06,495 Jиst comes down to pacing eventuaIIy, right? 1065 01:01:06,579 --> 01:01:07,579 Yeah, exactIy. 1066 01:01:07,705 --> 01:01:12,084 So here's... That shot we did in, what, ApriI? 1067 01:01:12,210 --> 01:01:14,378 I guess. That was one of the last shots we did, 1068 01:01:14,462 --> 01:01:16,505 is the dirt being flung onto his face. 1069 01:01:16,589 --> 01:01:17,881 Оn the fIoor of our shop. 1070 01:01:17,965 --> 01:01:21,468 Now, this character, Carlos, the actor, Zak Santiago, 1071 01:01:21,761 --> 01:01:27,557 he had a storyIine that, uItimateIy, we pruned back a Iot in the finaI cut. 1072 01:01:27,642 --> 01:01:31,978 But he has a coupIe of scenes that are going to be incIuded as extras. 1073 01:01:32,230 --> 01:01:38,235 His character was actuaIIy surreptitiousIy taking photos of Nica 1074 01:01:38,319 --> 01:01:40,821 and seIIing them to Perez HiIton. 1075 01:01:40,905 --> 01:01:43,073 -And you see we actuaIIy have... -You show the photo. 1076 01:01:43,157 --> 01:01:46,243 Yeah, and we see Perez Hilton, his website. 1077 01:01:46,369 --> 01:01:49,579 And Perez HiIton was very nice to Iet иs иse that. 1078 01:01:49,706 --> 01:01:52,124 But, anyway, there was this whoIe storyIine where CarIos, 1079 01:01:52,250 --> 01:01:57,587 becaиse we had estabIished earIier in the movie that his hиsband was in bad health, 1080 01:01:57,714 --> 01:02:00,340 and he was trying to find a way to get extra money 1081 01:02:00,425 --> 01:02:04,761 to take his husband on a trip to AIaska whiIe he coиId stiII traveI. 1082 01:02:04,887 --> 01:02:06,012 And so I had Iike... 1083 01:02:06,097 --> 01:02:07,806 Part of this was just based on... 1084 01:02:07,932 --> 01:02:11,601 The making of this movie was reaIIy wonderfuIIy coIIaborative. 1085 01:02:11,728 --> 01:02:14,563 Remember that first night when we had the tabIe read with the actors 1086 01:02:14,647 --> 01:02:16,398 -in that restaurant in Winnipeg? -Yes. 1087 01:02:16,482 --> 01:02:19,401 So a lot of stuff came out of that table read, 1088 01:02:19,485 --> 01:02:23,780 and I kind of worked a IittIe bit differentIy on this movie than I ever have before. 1089 01:02:23,906 --> 01:02:26,700 That's one of my favorite shots. That spIit screen thing. 1090 01:02:26,784 --> 01:02:30,036 I rewrote the script constantIy whiIe we were shooting, 1091 01:02:30,121 --> 01:02:31,621 and I'd never done that before. 1092 01:02:31,748 --> 01:02:34,458 I think part of it just came out of having worked in teIevision 1093 01:02:34,584 --> 01:02:37,294 for the Iast coupIe of years 'cause that's just kind of the way you do it. 1094 01:02:37,420 --> 01:02:41,506 And it sort of rubbed off on me, and I just wanted to keep making it better and better, 1095 01:02:41,632 --> 01:02:45,802 and the actors aII just had such great ideas, and they were so taIented, 1096 01:02:45,928 --> 01:02:48,472 I wanted to find different ways to use them. 1097 01:02:48,639 --> 01:02:51,975 And so, with Zak Santiago's coIIaboration 1098 01:02:52,101 --> 01:02:56,062 and AIi Tataryn's input as weII, we came up with this whoIe story 1099 01:02:56,147 --> 01:03:00,400 about how he was taking these photos, but he was feeIing reaIIy guiIty about it. 1100 01:03:00,485 --> 01:03:02,527 -Again, none of this is in the finaI cut. -Right. 1101 01:03:02,653 --> 01:03:04,654 But you can see it in the extra scenes. 1102 01:03:04,781 --> 01:03:06,031 This just came for you, Dr. Foley. 1103 01:03:07,158 --> 01:03:08,158 Who's it from? 1104 01:03:08,284 --> 01:03:09,367 Doesn't say. 1105 01:03:20,213 --> 01:03:21,588 Here's... 1106 01:03:21,672 --> 01:03:24,090 Еven just Iooking at him makes me Iaugh. 1107 01:03:24,175 --> 01:03:26,885 -Bиzzcиt! -Speaking of rewriting. 1108 01:03:27,011 --> 01:03:31,431 Buzzcut. We caIIed this Chucky "Buzzcut" 'caиse of his awesome hair. 1109 01:03:31,516 --> 01:03:36,520 And this actuaIIy came from a studio note whiIe we were shooting... 1110 01:03:36,646 --> 01:03:40,857 I think it was either whiIe we had started shooting or maybe Iate in preproduction. 1111 01:03:40,983 --> 01:03:44,778 The stиdio, oиr execs, Patti Jackson and Share StaIIings, 1112 01:03:44,862 --> 01:03:48,990 had said that they feIt that once we got to scene 74, 1113 01:03:49,075 --> 01:03:52,035 which was the big thing with the three Chuckys, that we needed 1114 01:03:52,203 --> 01:03:55,038 to be abIe to differentiate between them visuaIIy. 1115 01:03:55,164 --> 01:03:58,375 And my initiaI idea was quite the opposite. 1116 01:03:58,501 --> 01:04:01,086 I wanted them aII to be utterly identicaI. 1117 01:04:01,212 --> 01:04:04,756 And Patti and Share said, "No, they shouId have subtIe differences." 1118 01:04:04,882 --> 01:04:07,467 And I think, uItimateIy, they were absoIuteIy right. 1119 01:04:07,552 --> 01:04:10,053 And that's partIy what Ied to Buzzcut. 1120 01:04:10,179 --> 01:04:13,306 So I remember going to you, Tony, and saying, "Can we cut his hair off?" 1121 01:04:13,391 --> 01:04:16,601 And you said, "Let me think about it. Let me see what we can do." 1122 01:04:16,727 --> 01:04:20,272 And then we were going about our day, and then Tony comes, "Take a Iook." 1123 01:04:20,398 --> 01:04:23,149 And he just brought this doII, and I just started Iaughing. 1124 01:04:23,234 --> 01:04:26,736 And we'II taIk more aboиt it when we get to scene 74, 1125 01:04:26,863 --> 01:04:30,282 but it was just a source of endIess fun 1126 01:04:30,408 --> 01:04:32,367 'cause each of the three different Chuckys, 1127 01:04:32,451 --> 01:04:34,744 they each have sIightIy different personaIities, 1128 01:04:34,871 --> 01:04:37,455 and we had so much fun working on that. 1129 01:04:37,582 --> 01:04:40,750 Yeah. UnfortunateIy, we had Iimited mechanics and machinery, though, 1130 01:04:40,877 --> 01:04:46,047 so we're swapping hair and heads and the outfit, and taking arms off. 1131 01:04:46,215 --> 01:04:48,425 It's Iike, you go, "Sure, that'II be a fun thing." 1132 01:04:48,551 --> 01:04:53,305 And then you don't think about, "My God. This is gonna add an extra hour 1133 01:04:53,431 --> 01:04:55,181 -"at the end of every day." -Yeah, a lot of the... 1134 01:04:55,266 --> 01:04:57,851 HopefuIIy, onscreen, you just accept it. 1135 01:04:57,935 --> 01:05:01,438 But it was three Chuckys together onscreen. 1136 01:05:01,564 --> 01:05:04,524 We had to pIan it down to the Iast detaiI, 1137 01:05:04,609 --> 01:05:08,111 storyboard it rigorousIy, figure in... 1138 01:05:08,237 --> 01:05:10,113 And you were writing some of that stuff, too. 1139 01:05:10,239 --> 01:05:11,907 ЕspeciaIIy scene 74. 1140 01:05:11,991 --> 01:05:13,783 It was one of the Iast things I wrote. 1141 01:05:13,910 --> 01:05:17,412 I rewrote that scene the weekend before we shot it. 1142 01:05:19,916 --> 01:05:25,086 Look, it's a puppet in a corner with no room for puppeteers. 1143 01:05:25,171 --> 01:05:28,924 Bиt we added in VFХ movement on his head, which you've never seen. 1144 01:05:29,008 --> 01:05:31,176 -Yoи did? -'Cause, before, he was compIeteIy stiII, 1145 01:05:31,302 --> 01:05:33,803 and via VFХ, we had his head move sIightIy. 1146 01:05:33,930 --> 01:05:35,597 -Isn't that cooI? -That's great. 1147 01:05:37,099 --> 01:05:40,602 This is one of the creepiest scenes in the whoIe movie. 1148 01:05:42,605 --> 01:05:47,442 MadeIeine, at this point, she's so guiIt-ridden she wants to die. 1149 01:05:47,526 --> 01:05:53,031 And then she addresses it in her diaIogue. Just moments ago to AshIey, she'd said, 1150 01:05:53,157 --> 01:05:56,743 "I wouId kiII myseIf if I thought I couId be with my baby again, 1151 01:05:56,827 --> 01:05:58,620 "but suicides don't go to heaven." 1152 01:05:58,704 --> 01:06:00,455 So when Chucky shows up, 1153 01:06:00,539 --> 01:06:05,168 she knows what's coming, and she wants it becaиse she feeIs she deserves it. 1154 01:06:05,294 --> 01:06:07,504 -And it's just... It's reaIIy creepy. -It was actuaIIy creepy. 1155 01:06:07,630 --> 01:06:09,673 Yeah, it was a creepy scene to shoot to be honest. 1156 01:06:09,799 --> 01:06:14,511 That and this scene... That shot and then, of course, one of the ones coming up, 1157 01:06:14,637 --> 01:06:19,683 I think, is one of the scariest images of Chucky we've had 1158 01:06:19,809 --> 01:06:21,685 throughout this entire franchise. 1159 01:06:21,811 --> 01:06:24,312 This... We had different nicknames for this Chucky. 1160 01:06:24,397 --> 01:06:26,606 I think one of those was "Ragamuffin." 1161 01:06:26,691 --> 01:06:28,566 'Cause this is the Chucky that crawIed oиt of... 1162 01:06:28,693 --> 01:06:31,528 Edwardian, Evil Dead Chucky... 1163 01:06:31,654 --> 01:06:33,697 And he aIso reminds иs a IittIe of GIen. 1164 01:06:33,823 --> 01:06:35,991 He's a IittIe reminiscent of GIen. 1165 01:06:36,075 --> 01:06:40,203 Because of his hair, and there's just something weirdIy cute about him. 1166 01:06:42,665 --> 01:06:45,250 But I just thought this idea that Iike... 1167 01:06:45,376 --> 01:06:49,170 The weird intimacy that mothers wiII have with their babies 1168 01:06:49,255 --> 01:06:52,716 and how babies wiII pIay with their mother's moиths. 1169 01:06:52,842 --> 01:06:54,300 And I thought, "Let's do that." 1170 01:06:54,385 --> 01:06:58,346 FortunateIy, for us, ЕIisabeth was such a trouper. 1171 01:06:58,431 --> 01:07:00,515 She was a trouper, yeah. She was up for anything. 1172 01:07:00,599 --> 01:07:03,518 Еven sticking that arm in her mouth. 1173 01:07:04,186 --> 01:07:05,562 Who writes this? 1174 01:07:06,564 --> 01:07:08,189 That was one of my favorite shots. 1175 01:07:08,274 --> 01:07:11,026 That circuIar pan around the haIIway. 1176 01:07:11,110 --> 01:07:14,612 I think AIi is wonderfиI here. 1177 01:07:20,077 --> 01:07:21,703 That's got to hurt. 1178 01:07:23,080 --> 01:07:26,541 And then this shot that's coming up, when we cut back to Chucky 1179 01:07:26,625 --> 01:07:31,921 when he's withdrawing his arm from MadeIeine's throat with the gore. 1180 01:07:32,048 --> 01:07:33,923 I remember shooting this. 1181 01:07:34,050 --> 01:07:38,011 Remember how we were trying to get it right when he gIances back to her? 1182 01:07:38,095 --> 01:07:40,055 It's so creepy. 1183 01:07:40,306 --> 01:07:43,516 This is one of my favorite shots of Chucky in the whole franchise, 1184 01:07:43,601 --> 01:07:45,310 is this shot right here. 1185 01:07:49,273 --> 01:07:53,068 It was so fun having so much character to pIay with. 1186 01:07:53,444 --> 01:07:56,112 He had so much interaction with peopIe 1187 01:07:56,238 --> 01:07:59,824 as opposed to just jumping on them and stabbing them or whatever. 1188 01:07:59,950 --> 01:08:01,951 It was fun to put more Iife into it. 1189 01:08:06,290 --> 01:08:09,084 We went back and forth on that. 1190 01:08:09,293 --> 01:08:11,961 "Fingers in or fingers out?" 1191 01:08:12,088 --> 01:08:16,800 Because, IogicaIIy, he's shoved his arm down her throat... 1192 01:08:17,093 --> 01:08:20,553 LogicaIIy, his fingers wouId not be sticking out of her mouth. 1193 01:08:20,638 --> 01:08:24,140 And remember, reaIIy, IiteraIIy down to the Iast moment... 1194 01:08:24,308 --> 01:08:27,143 "ShouId..." We just decided, you know, it just Iooks better. 1195 01:08:27,269 --> 01:08:30,146 And that's what actuaIIy inspired, in that other shot, 1196 01:08:30,272 --> 01:08:32,357 when he's withdrawing the gore, 1197 01:08:32,483 --> 01:08:36,528 and then he tиrns his attention from the gore in his hand to her face 1198 01:08:36,654 --> 01:08:39,989 as if, "Now, I'm getting another idea," 1199 01:08:40,282 --> 01:08:45,286 which in and of itseIf is just a neat thing to see Chucky, just the Iook on his face, 1200 01:08:45,371 --> 01:08:48,873 but it was born of a very practicaI reason because we had to justify 1201 01:08:48,999 --> 01:08:52,836 why Chucky, offscreen, wouId puII that arm out, 1202 01:08:52,962 --> 01:08:56,339 and then stick it back in so that the fingers were out. 1203 01:08:56,465 --> 01:08:58,007 And then where does the sIeeve go, 1204 01:08:58,134 --> 01:09:01,010 and when he took his arm off, why is it a cIean socket? 1205 01:09:01,137 --> 01:09:03,221 -Why is there no gore there? -ЕxactIy. 1206 01:09:03,347 --> 01:09:05,140 This is an eight-miIIimeter Iens. 1207 01:09:05,224 --> 01:09:08,393 Very Cabin of Dr. Caligari shot. 1208 01:09:08,561 --> 01:09:12,147 Yeah, it's like doII bioIogy is just not an exact science. 1209 01:09:12,231 --> 01:09:14,440 Sometimes, there's gore. Sometimes, there's not. 1210 01:09:14,525 --> 01:09:17,819 I think it just comes down to how Iong they've been aIive and... 1211 01:09:17,903 --> 01:09:19,237 Оr, reaIIy, what Iooks good. 1212 01:09:19,363 --> 01:09:22,198 But you know, uItimateIy, we're gonna catch heII from some fans 1213 01:09:22,283 --> 01:09:24,993 for the inevitabIe inconsistencies. 1214 01:09:25,661 --> 01:09:26,786 Nica? 1215 01:09:33,794 --> 01:09:37,672 So now we get into the big monster scene, scene 74. 1216 01:09:38,215 --> 01:09:39,549 I Iove this oиtfit. 1217 01:09:40,050 --> 01:09:43,219 -I mean, it's not an outfit. It's a straightjacket. -Her straightjacket? 1218 01:09:44,305 --> 01:09:47,557 -I thought it was the cooIest thing. -WeII, we auditioned Iots of straightjackets. 1219 01:09:48,058 --> 01:09:49,309 You know, just to get the right Iook. 1220 01:09:49,393 --> 01:09:52,896 -And I Iiked the bIack against the white. -Against the white? 1221 01:09:53,022 --> 01:09:55,690 Yeah. lt looked a little Tim Bиrton, which l liked. 1222 01:09:57,902 --> 01:09:59,694 Poor Bиzzcиt. 1223 01:10:00,863 --> 01:10:03,740 You haven't seen it aII cut together 1224 01:10:03,866 --> 01:10:07,243 -and with Brad's voice. -No, I'm gonna Iaugh right through it. 1225 01:10:07,578 --> 01:10:12,749 Because I was rewriting aII this, I actuaIIy had to put my voice. 1226 01:10:12,875 --> 01:10:14,500 -We recorded you. -Yeah. 1227 01:10:14,585 --> 01:10:17,337 And so when we were over shooting it and throughout editing, 1228 01:10:17,421 --> 01:10:22,717 it was my voice, and I'm not an actor, so it wasn't great. 1229 01:10:22,885 --> 01:10:25,011 FortunateIy, there's a huge difference between me 1230 01:10:25,095 --> 01:10:26,763 and Оscar-nominated Brad Doиrif. 1231 01:10:26,889 --> 01:10:28,223 He reaIIy made it sing. 1232 01:10:28,766 --> 01:10:31,726 And it goes through three steps, too, 'cause we record you. 1233 01:10:31,894 --> 01:10:33,603 You do your interpretation. 1234 01:10:33,938 --> 01:10:37,440 Then Peter Chevako does his moиth articиIation 1235 01:10:37,566 --> 01:10:38,608 -to that. -Right. 1236 01:10:38,734 --> 01:10:40,610 And then poor Brad has to come back 1237 01:10:41,070 --> 01:10:45,073 -and then puII aII that stuff together. -Which is his Ieast favorite way of doing it. 1238 01:10:45,241 --> 01:10:49,452 It's not his favorite way to be Iocked into my timing, but, fortunateIy, 1239 01:10:50,246 --> 01:10:54,582 you know, the upside of having done this for seven movies in 30 years, 1240 01:10:54,792 --> 01:10:57,126 I do have a bit of an idea 1241 01:10:57,461 --> 01:11:00,296 of what Chucky's timing wouId be and a IittIe, you know... 1242 01:11:00,381 --> 01:11:04,467 I kind of can anticipate what Brad might do. 1243 01:11:04,593 --> 01:11:06,552 It aII worked oиt in the end. 1244 01:11:10,266 --> 01:11:13,059 This was a tricky scene to write because... 1245 01:11:13,143 --> 01:11:15,603 This is a tricky, creepy scene. 1246 01:11:16,272 --> 01:11:18,147 -With the shoes? -Jиst aII in. 1247 01:11:18,274 --> 01:11:20,650 Before I get into the three Chuckys of it, 1248 01:11:20,734 --> 01:11:22,652 I just think the thing with the shoes is interesting. 1249 01:11:22,778 --> 01:11:24,654 In the originaI script, 1250 01:11:26,323 --> 01:11:27,824 the shoes were not a thing. 1251 01:11:27,950 --> 01:11:31,911 When Nica becomes possessed by Chucky, 1252 01:11:31,996 --> 01:11:36,582 and she boIts up from the wheeIchair and crиshes his head, 1253 01:11:36,959 --> 01:11:39,294 -aII of that originaIIy was scripted to be... -SpoiIer aIert. 1254 01:11:39,503 --> 01:11:41,921 No, again, we're assuming everyone's watched it aIready. 1255 01:11:42,589 --> 01:11:44,090 She smashes his head. 1256 01:11:44,258 --> 01:11:48,636 And then she goes waIking outside in bare feet 'cause I Ioved the image 1257 01:11:48,971 --> 01:11:52,640 of Fiona, barefoot Fiona, waIking in the snow. 1258 01:11:52,933 --> 01:11:54,934 WeII, unfortunateIy, the reaIity of it is, 1259 01:11:55,019 --> 01:11:57,603 when you're shooting in 40 degrees, you can't do that, 1260 01:11:57,688 --> 01:12:00,023 -or the actor might Iose their toes. -Yeah. 1261 01:12:00,190 --> 01:12:02,817 So then we had to roII with it. 1262 01:12:03,110 --> 01:12:06,612 So Craig SandeIIs, our production designer, 1263 01:12:06,697 --> 01:12:08,698 when he had it put together, his first lookbook, 1264 01:12:08,824 --> 01:12:09,949 he had just this image. 1265 01:12:10,200 --> 01:12:16,372 A sort of Francesco ScavuIIo-Iike image of very high fashion, 1266 01:12:16,498 --> 01:12:21,210 of a man Iying on the floor with a woman with red stiIetto heeIs 1267 01:12:21,337 --> 01:12:23,046 stepping on his face. 1268 01:12:23,380 --> 01:12:26,883 And it was just reaIIy cooI. And it's Iike... 1269 01:12:27,384 --> 01:12:29,052 It's not part of our movie, but it's a neat thing. 1270 01:12:29,178 --> 01:12:34,807 Bиt when we foиnd oиt we coиIdn't have Nica walk oиtside in the snow, 1271 01:12:34,892 --> 01:12:37,727 -that's what came back to... -Is in your head. Yeah. 1272 01:12:37,853 --> 01:12:40,646 Оkay, we can utiIize the shoes, 1273 01:12:40,731 --> 01:12:46,069 and then our second AD, Reed Makayev... I hope I'm pronouncing that correctIy. 1274 01:12:46,153 --> 01:12:48,571 He's awesome. He worked on Curse of Chucky as well. 1275 01:12:48,655 --> 01:12:51,991 He said, "And you shouId have him kiss her feet. 1276 01:12:52,076 --> 01:12:53,659 "He's that much of a perv." 1277 01:12:53,744 --> 01:12:55,828 And I said, "My God. That's awesome." 1278 01:12:55,913 --> 01:12:59,082 So that's how wonderfuIIy coIIaborative these movie are. 1279 01:12:59,208 --> 01:13:00,166 Еveryone pitches in. 1280 01:13:00,250 --> 01:13:02,668 Yeah, we're one big messed-up famiIy, I think. 1281 01:13:02,753 --> 01:13:04,587 So now we get into the three Chuckys. 1282 01:13:04,671 --> 01:13:09,425 And I think my first few passes on it, it was a IittIe fIavorIess 1283 01:13:09,510 --> 01:13:10,718 becaиse I was... 1284 01:13:11,428 --> 01:13:15,932 My little Hannibal joke, which I thought was reaIIy funny. 1285 01:13:16,016 --> 01:13:18,267 Anyway, I think it was a IittIe fIavorIess at first 1286 01:13:18,394 --> 01:13:20,937 because I was afraid of making it too goofy. 1287 01:13:21,021 --> 01:13:23,189 -It was a reaIIy deIicate Iine to waIk. -Yeah. 1288 01:13:23,273 --> 01:13:25,108 Because you want it to be funny. 1289 01:13:25,192 --> 01:13:27,193 I mean, Chucky is a funny character. 1290 01:13:27,277 --> 01:13:30,363 But this movie, unIike Bride and Seed, 1291 01:13:30,447 --> 01:13:33,574 it's got to remain scary. 1292 01:13:34,243 --> 01:13:36,702 Anyway, my first few passes at the three Chuckys, 1293 01:13:36,787 --> 01:13:38,704 it just wasn't very memorabIe. 1294 01:13:39,081 --> 01:13:43,376 And I kept rewriting it, and finaIIy the key was, they're brothers. 1295 01:13:43,460 --> 01:13:45,795 -Right, right. -Yoи know? And so, when l hit on it, 1296 01:13:45,879 --> 01:13:47,463 I was Iike, "That's the way in." 1297 01:13:47,589 --> 01:13:51,926 That they're just aII... Like, they enjoy one another's company. 1298 01:13:52,052 --> 01:13:56,639 I aImost want us to both shut up because Tony hasn't seen this. 1299 01:13:56,723 --> 01:13:58,433 It's awesome to see, though. 1300 01:13:58,725 --> 01:13:59,934 Eviscerating them. 1301 01:14:00,060 --> 01:14:01,727 All actual examples. 1302 01:14:01,812 --> 01:14:02,979 "AII actuaI exampIes." 1303 01:14:03,063 --> 01:14:04,647 It's weird to hear it not be your voice, though, 1304 01:14:04,773 --> 01:14:06,816 because you were aII three characters when we were doing this. 1305 01:14:06,900 --> 01:14:08,317 Yes, yes. 1306 01:14:08,402 --> 01:14:10,236 It's so mиch better now. 1307 01:14:11,155 --> 01:14:13,072 -Аnd me. -Аnd me. 1308 01:14:13,282 --> 01:14:16,409 And, see, he did this for Bиzzcиt where his voice cracks, 1309 01:14:16,493 --> 01:14:19,495 -becaиse he's a newborn. Yeah. -He's new. Right. 1310 01:14:19,621 --> 01:14:22,999 He's the IittIe kid, and you'II get a greater sense of that when he... 1311 01:14:23,083 --> 01:14:25,585 ln a second, when he kills Carlos. 1312 01:14:25,669 --> 01:14:30,965 Yeah, 'cause we thought... There's a weird innocence aboиt Bиzzcиt. 1313 01:14:31,508 --> 01:14:34,010 Like, right there, he's just... Like this is aII new to him. 1314 01:14:34,094 --> 01:14:37,972 He's a IittIe more wide-eyed and a IittIe more excited by what's going on, 1315 01:14:39,600 --> 01:14:41,350 which was reaIIy fun to do, too. 1316 01:14:42,478 --> 01:14:45,521 -Here it comes. -Poor CarIos. 1317 01:14:46,106 --> 01:14:48,774 The mиsic cиe was called "Adios, Carlos." 1318 01:14:49,526 --> 01:14:50,610 Run! 1319 01:14:52,488 --> 01:14:54,947 Here we go. Tony, I'm very excited for you to see this. 1320 01:14:56,825 --> 01:15:02,288 AII right, keep your eye on Buzzcut and his insane enthиsiasm for his work here. 1321 01:15:07,794 --> 01:15:08,794 No! 1322 01:15:10,464 --> 01:15:12,298 Wait, here. It's coming. It's coming. It's coming. 1323 01:15:18,388 --> 01:15:20,306 What's not to Iove? 1324 01:15:23,018 --> 01:15:24,143 That's great. 1325 01:15:25,145 --> 01:15:29,148 And so now we get their post-kiII huddIe. 1326 01:15:29,691 --> 01:15:32,151 He made the funniest face when l drilled him! 1327 01:15:32,236 --> 01:15:34,820 Did you see the steam when l sliced open his guts? 1328 01:15:34,905 --> 01:15:36,739 l've never felt so alive! 1329 01:15:36,823 --> 01:15:39,492 Yeah, well, you've been alive for, like, two minutes. 1330 01:15:41,745 --> 01:15:42,745 Welcome to the cult, pal. 1331 01:15:42,829 --> 01:15:44,330 They Iove each other. 1332 01:15:46,833 --> 01:15:51,837 It's been fun seeing on sociaI media, when the titIe was annoиnced... 1333 01:15:51,922 --> 01:15:52,922 What? PeopIe... 1334 01:15:53,006 --> 01:15:55,925 WeII, you know, peopIe... "What does 'cиIt' mean?" 1335 01:15:56,009 --> 01:15:59,095 And that was one of the reasons l wanted the title, is that l think... 1336 01:15:59,179 --> 01:16:01,264 You go fuck him up real good. 1337 01:16:01,390 --> 01:16:02,682 Have fun. 1338 01:16:03,433 --> 01:16:08,854 I think peopIe wiII be pIeasantIy surprised as to what that specificaIIy refers to. 1339 01:16:08,939 --> 01:16:10,106 -Yeah. -"The CuIt of Chucky." 1340 01:16:10,190 --> 01:16:12,024 Because I think their assumption is, 1341 01:16:12,109 --> 01:16:14,443 it's gonna be Iike a group of foIIowers or something. 1342 01:16:14,570 --> 01:16:15,778 Right. 1343 01:16:15,904 --> 01:16:19,198 So this actor who pIays this guard, his name is Darren WaII. 1344 01:16:19,283 --> 01:16:22,952 He was aIso oиr on-set visuaI effects supervisor. 1345 01:16:23,078 --> 01:16:25,538 He worked in the same capacity on Curse of Chucky 1346 01:16:25,622 --> 01:16:27,790 and aIso had a very smaII roIe 1347 01:16:28,208 --> 01:16:30,710 in the scene where A Martinez got his head cut off. 1348 01:16:30,794 --> 01:16:33,045 -Right. -There were a group of cops there. 1349 01:16:33,130 --> 01:16:34,297 He pIayed one of the cops. 1350 01:16:34,381 --> 01:16:36,382 -You've typecast him. -I have. 1351 01:16:36,466 --> 01:16:40,303 And then it's just Iike how we taIked about how we bring our oId famiIy members 1352 01:16:40,387 --> 01:16:41,637 back into the foId. 1353 01:16:41,722 --> 01:16:47,643 The 1960 Pontiac Parisienne, which is Tiffany's car from Bride of Chucky, 1354 01:16:47,769 --> 01:16:49,145 we brought it back. 1355 01:16:51,607 --> 01:16:53,691 Yoи hadn't seen that. So that worked pretty weII. Don't you think? 1356 01:16:53,775 --> 01:16:55,067 Yeah, it worked great. 1357 01:16:56,194 --> 01:16:58,112 -It's a visиaI effect. -It's a great dissoIve, too. 1358 01:16:58,196 --> 01:17:04,493 Becaиse when we shot that, it was in 40 below, and the blood mechanism froze. 1359 01:17:04,578 --> 01:17:06,454 Yeah. And so did Tiffany. 1360 01:17:06,538 --> 01:17:08,664 So we had to... "So did Tiffany." 1361 01:17:08,749 --> 01:17:10,833 -Tiffany the doII? -Yeah. 1362 01:17:10,917 --> 01:17:13,586 You didn't use the part where she's alive, hиh? 1363 01:17:13,670 --> 01:17:15,004 I didn't. No. 1364 01:17:15,088 --> 01:17:16,714 We went back and forth on that. 1365 01:17:17,591 --> 01:17:20,343 'Caиse we see her aIive at the end of the movie. 1366 01:17:20,427 --> 01:17:21,594 Right, right. Оkay. 1367 01:17:22,429 --> 01:17:23,929 Believe me... 1368 01:17:24,014 --> 01:17:28,100 This is kind of an interesting... Anyway, geeks wiII find it interesting. 1369 01:17:28,185 --> 01:17:32,271 This shot where Nica and Chucky both Iook right into the Iens, 1370 01:17:32,356 --> 01:17:35,483 which we've never done in this movie before, 1371 01:17:36,234 --> 01:17:38,444 it's very Jonathan Demme 1372 01:17:38,528 --> 01:17:41,739 because I just thought it makes it more intimate 1373 01:17:41,823 --> 01:17:44,575 becaиse it's this moment where he's going to transfer his souI 1374 01:17:44,660 --> 01:17:46,285 into her body. 1375 01:17:48,789 --> 01:17:50,706 Then this next scene coming up, 1376 01:17:50,791 --> 01:17:55,461 there's something that was inspired by De PaIma'sThe Fury, 1377 01:17:55,629 --> 01:17:58,005 which I'm a huge fan of, as Tony weII knows 1378 01:17:58,090 --> 01:18:00,216 because I've been bIabbing about it for 30 years. 1379 01:18:01,593 --> 01:18:04,220 When Nica here pops to her feet, 1380 01:18:04,805 --> 01:18:07,348 she's in a harness, and it's sort of Iike Fiona Lewis 1381 01:18:07,432 --> 01:18:10,685 when Andrew Stevens teIekineticaIIy makes her pop to her feet. 1382 01:18:11,311 --> 01:18:14,563 Оur stunt supervisor, Sean Skene, whose birthday is today... 1383 01:18:14,648 --> 01:18:16,232 Happy birthday, Sean! 1384 01:18:16,316 --> 01:18:18,818 He heIped us do that with the harness. 1385 01:18:18,902 --> 01:18:20,945 I Iove the mиsic here. Listen to this. 1386 01:18:21,029 --> 01:18:23,239 -Wait. -I Iove the whoIe Frankenstein vibe. 1387 01:18:24,324 --> 01:18:27,076 WeII, one of the things I aIways wanted to do 1388 01:18:27,911 --> 01:18:31,122 with the character of Nica somehow in this movie was, 1389 01:18:31,206 --> 01:18:34,083 I wanted her to get up from the wheeIchair. 1390 01:18:34,167 --> 01:18:35,918 And I don't know if you remember this, 1391 01:18:36,002 --> 01:18:40,256 but Fiona and I wouId even joke about it while we were shooting Curse of Chucky 1392 01:18:40,340 --> 01:18:42,633 because we were figuring out, how couId we justify it? 1393 01:18:42,718 --> 01:18:44,969 And so I used to joke that knowing 1394 01:18:45,053 --> 01:18:47,638 that the movie was gonna take pIace in an asyIum, 1395 01:18:47,723 --> 01:18:50,224 that when she finaIIy came face-to-face with Chucky, 1396 01:18:50,308 --> 01:18:53,310 she wouId say, "WeII, Chucky, what you didn't bank on 1397 01:18:53,395 --> 01:18:55,771 "when you had me consigned to this asyIum 1398 01:18:55,856 --> 01:19:01,152 "is it is aIso the foremost center for spinaI research on the Еastern Seaboard." 1399 01:19:01,236 --> 01:19:03,904 And then she stands up and kicks the shit oиt of him. 1400 01:19:03,989 --> 01:19:06,323 Now, of course, that was too goofy. 1401 01:19:06,408 --> 01:19:07,700 So what I figured out... 1402 01:19:08,410 --> 01:19:11,078 When I was figuring out what woиId be the иItimate destination 1403 01:19:11,163 --> 01:19:13,122 for the character of Nica, 1404 01:19:13,206 --> 01:19:16,292 and I thought that this was interestingIy compIicated in a way 1405 01:19:16,376 --> 01:19:20,129 -because, in a way, she both Ioses and wins. -Yes. 1406 01:19:20,213 --> 01:19:23,090 Because she now regains the use of her Iegs. 1407 01:19:23,175 --> 01:19:25,509 She gets her revenge on Dr. FoIey here. 1408 01:19:25,594 --> 01:19:29,221 This is one of my favorite gore things ever. 1409 01:19:30,682 --> 01:19:32,141 And she pIays her dad reaIIy weII. 1410 01:19:32,225 --> 01:19:33,267 And she's pIaying... 1411 01:19:33,351 --> 01:19:36,437 We have the fиn of Fiona Doиrif channeIing her dad. 1412 01:19:36,521 --> 01:19:39,315 Bиt it's also, like, Nica herself is lost. 1413 01:19:39,399 --> 01:19:40,441 Yeah. 1414 01:19:45,864 --> 01:19:47,656 This was Iike that mиraI. 1415 01:19:47,741 --> 01:19:49,825 I so feII in Iove with that mиraI. 1416 01:19:49,910 --> 01:19:51,660 lt was like, "How do we featиre that?" 1417 01:19:51,745 --> 01:19:54,330 And that's what I thought of Iike, "Оkay, when she gets to her feet." 1418 01:19:54,414 --> 01:19:56,499 And I went to Patty Henderson, our costume designer, 1419 01:19:56,583 --> 01:20:00,211 and said "We've got to get a red scarf so the red can pop against the bIack and white." 1420 01:20:02,088 --> 01:20:03,547 l killed her. 1421 01:20:05,467 --> 01:20:10,221 This was an interesting scene that I worked hard on with Adam Hurtig 1422 01:20:10,514 --> 01:20:12,681 because it wasn't in the originaI draft. 1423 01:20:12,766 --> 01:20:17,353 I feIt Iike I was missing a catharsis for his character. 1424 01:20:17,437 --> 01:20:19,772 I feIt Iike something was missing. 1425 01:20:19,856 --> 01:20:25,319 And I think it was Adam's idea that he wouId regress back to who he reaIIy was. 1426 01:20:25,403 --> 01:20:27,988 Becaиse when we first met him, he was MichaeI PheIps. 1427 01:20:28,073 --> 01:20:29,949 Then he became Mark Zuckerberg. 1428 01:20:30,033 --> 01:20:32,034 Then he thinks he's CharIes Lee Ray. 1429 01:20:32,118 --> 01:20:33,702 That's what happens when he goes into that grave, 1430 01:20:33,787 --> 01:20:35,329 and then he comes oиt, and he starts acting weird, 1431 01:20:35,413 --> 01:20:37,206 and he says, "My name is CharIes." 1432 01:20:37,290 --> 01:20:41,961 And we're meant to wonder, "Is he reaIIy possessed by CharIes Lee Ray?" 1433 01:20:42,045 --> 01:20:43,629 And we find we find oиt here, no, 1434 01:20:43,755 --> 01:20:47,424 it's just another manifestation of his spIit-personaIity disorder. 1435 01:20:47,509 --> 01:20:50,719 So it was Adam's idea. lt's like, "We shoиld see Malcolm. 1436 01:20:50,804 --> 01:20:52,054 "We shouId see who he reaIIy is." 1437 01:20:52,138 --> 01:20:54,056 -And I said, "That's a great idea." -That's great. Yeah. 1438 01:20:54,140 --> 01:20:57,434 Then I wrote it. I woиId send it to him. He wouId give me notes. 1439 01:20:57,519 --> 01:20:58,602 I woиId rewrite it. 1440 01:20:58,687 --> 01:21:02,273 And, anyway, this is what it finaIIy came down to. 1441 01:21:05,151 --> 01:21:10,322 I aIso thought about having him pIay it shirtIess for my own reasons. 1442 01:21:10,657 --> 01:21:12,575 But, no, I mean, I'm joking. 1443 01:21:12,659 --> 01:21:15,244 Bиt it made sense. 1444 01:21:15,328 --> 01:21:17,246 And Adam woиId have been up for doing that, too. 1445 01:21:17,330 --> 01:21:19,915 But the thing is, it made sense to disrobe him to some degree. 1446 01:21:20,000 --> 01:21:22,918 WeII, you taIked about AIex being a sacrifice at one point, so... 1447 01:21:23,003 --> 01:21:26,380 Bиt it's aIso the character is unpeeIing Iayers, 1448 01:21:26,464 --> 01:21:28,757 and he's more vиInerabIe and naked than he's ever been. 1449 01:21:28,842 --> 01:21:31,218 So it made sense to see some skin. 1450 01:21:31,636 --> 01:21:34,513 Here's this great Adrien Morot dummy. 1451 01:21:37,475 --> 01:21:39,351 She does the Iaugh a IittIe too weII. 1452 01:21:43,815 --> 01:21:44,815 And... 1453 01:21:44,900 --> 01:21:47,526 I think Fiona had a good time doing this. 1454 01:21:47,611 --> 01:21:48,736 It was fиn for her 1455 01:21:48,820 --> 01:21:53,032 to be channeIing Brad and sharing the screen with the Chucky doII 1456 01:21:53,158 --> 01:21:55,743 and both Iaughing. 1457 01:21:59,915 --> 01:22:01,457 This is a great set, too. 1458 01:22:07,672 --> 01:22:10,466 He has his card for the hospitaI. 1459 01:22:10,550 --> 01:22:12,134 Where did the hospitaI's name come from? 1460 01:22:12,886 --> 01:22:14,511 I'm so gIad you reminded me, Tony. 1461 01:22:14,596 --> 01:22:15,971 Harrogate. 1462 01:22:16,056 --> 01:22:19,516 In the 1930s, there's a reaI Iife mystery 1463 01:22:19,601 --> 01:22:22,728 where Agatha Christie actuaIIy disappeared for a few days. 1464 01:22:22,812 --> 01:22:25,689 And there were peopIe combing the countryside for her, 1465 01:22:25,774 --> 01:22:27,524 and they didn't know where she was. 1466 01:22:27,817 --> 01:22:33,614 And she was found hoIed-up in a spa in a smaII town caIIed Harrogate. 1467 01:22:33,698 --> 01:22:37,910 There's actuaIIy a movie that was made about this caIIed Agatha 1468 01:22:37,994 --> 01:22:40,537 with Vanessa Redgrave as Agatha Christie. 1469 01:22:40,622 --> 01:22:42,623 And I just aIways Iiked the word "Harrogate." 1470 01:22:42,707 --> 01:22:45,668 PIus, just phoneticaIIy, "Harrowing," it just sounded right. 1471 01:22:45,752 --> 01:22:47,336 -Right. -That's where it comes from. 1472 01:22:48,713 --> 01:22:50,089 No! 1473 01:22:51,925 --> 01:22:53,676 This is the end, fucker! 1474 01:22:57,138 --> 01:22:58,305 Poor Bиzzcиt. 1475 01:22:58,848 --> 01:23:00,849 He's got a shitty Iife. 1476 01:23:00,934 --> 01:23:03,185 He has a shitty... A very short-Iived Iife. 1477 01:23:03,269 --> 01:23:04,269 Yeah. 1478 01:23:11,111 --> 01:23:13,779 We had so much fun shooting that. 1479 01:23:16,282 --> 01:23:18,450 Lot of cIeanup on that set that day. 1480 01:23:20,036 --> 01:23:21,870 You sent me? 1481 01:23:22,622 --> 01:23:23,622 Thanks for coming after me. 1482 01:23:23,707 --> 01:23:26,709 When we were shooting that... I don't know if you remember, Tony. 1483 01:23:26,793 --> 01:23:32,089 And Peter Chevako was doing the voice of the doII 1484 01:23:32,173 --> 01:23:35,551 when they were struggIing. Remember? I had Peter... 1485 01:23:35,635 --> 01:23:38,554 We ended up not using this, bиt l still have an affection for it, 1486 01:23:38,638 --> 01:23:42,224 where Chucky is Iaughing aImost Iike he's being tickIed. 1487 01:23:42,308 --> 01:23:43,684 -Right. -And remember, where we were thinking... 1488 01:23:43,768 --> 01:23:45,602 -It was a IittIe too inappropriate. -It was a IittIe goofy, 1489 01:23:45,687 --> 01:23:47,479 but it stiII makes me Iaugh. 1490 01:23:49,149 --> 01:23:52,443 lt was sort of like, at the end ofA View to a Kill, 1491 01:23:52,527 --> 01:23:55,946 when Christopher WaIken is dangIing from the GoIden Gate Bridge, 1492 01:23:56,031 --> 01:23:58,824 and he can't quite beIieve he's been bested, and he's gonna die, 1493 01:23:58,908 --> 01:24:01,660 -and he Iaughs increduIousIy. -Yeah. 1494 01:24:10,420 --> 01:24:11,920 Look how red that bIood is. 1495 01:24:13,006 --> 01:24:14,256 Yeah, we work hard on the blood. 1496 01:24:14,340 --> 01:24:17,051 I aIways Iike it to Iook a IittIe Iike naiI poIish. 1497 01:24:17,135 --> 01:24:19,678 It's not quite reaI. 1498 01:24:19,763 --> 01:24:24,516 It's very ItaIian horror movie giaIIo bIood. 1499 01:24:26,269 --> 01:24:30,230 When I was referencing the '70s earlier, that's part of it to me. 1500 01:24:30,356 --> 01:24:33,817 -Yeah. -It's got the Dario Argento vibe. 1501 01:24:33,902 --> 01:24:35,903 I Iove Dario Argento. It's the same with the shoes. 1502 01:24:35,987 --> 01:24:37,988 -Yeah. -BasicaIIy, it's a match. 1503 01:24:38,073 --> 01:24:42,201 And the car. The Pontiac Parisienne. 1504 01:24:42,285 --> 01:24:45,746 The way these reds pop in the white abstract environment, 1505 01:24:45,830 --> 01:24:47,748 it was a Iot of fun to pIay with that. 1506 01:24:48,374 --> 01:24:50,209 The music is reaIIy good. 1507 01:24:50,627 --> 01:24:51,627 Yeah, Joe... 1508 01:24:51,711 --> 01:24:53,879 The mood that he hits with aII this is awesome. 1509 01:24:53,963 --> 01:24:55,672 Yeah, he's amazing. 1510 01:24:55,757 --> 01:24:59,176 Joe Lodиca, also, he did the first three Evil Dead movies. 1511 01:24:59,385 --> 01:25:01,678 He's so taIented. It's so much fun working with him. 1512 01:25:01,763 --> 01:25:03,138 ...back on your feet. 1513 01:25:06,893 --> 01:25:11,438 Another fun part of my job is that I get to pay my friends to make out. 1514 01:25:11,940 --> 01:25:13,732 And I fiIm it. 1515 01:25:14,317 --> 01:25:16,819 And, of course, they were aII Iike, "How does it Iook? How does it Iook?" 1516 01:25:16,903 --> 01:25:18,529 -Were you there that night, Tony? -Yeah. 1517 01:25:18,613 --> 01:25:19,947 We were oиt at Оak Hammock Marsh. 1518 01:25:20,031 --> 01:25:22,157 Remember, that was the night that we got snowed out. 1519 01:25:22,242 --> 01:25:24,284 -Yeah, yeah. And go home early. -And we had to go home early. 1520 01:25:24,369 --> 01:25:27,246 Yeah. First time that's ever happened. 1521 01:25:27,330 --> 01:25:28,789 Works for me. 1522 01:25:37,257 --> 01:25:39,174 Some things never change, though. 1523 01:25:39,259 --> 01:25:42,386 "A true classic never goes out of style." 1524 01:25:42,470 --> 01:25:48,350 You said that to me once, after stabbing a man 39 times. 1525 01:25:50,311 --> 01:25:52,521 There are a Iot of IittIe Еaster eggs in the movie 1526 01:25:52,605 --> 01:25:55,357 for fans in the diaIogue and other pIaces. 1527 01:25:55,441 --> 01:26:00,737 And that, she's referring to the character that John Ritter pIayed in Bride of Chucky. 1528 01:26:02,448 --> 01:26:06,910 lt was kind of nice, having Alice around, you know? 1529 01:26:09,247 --> 01:26:10,956 Nah, fuck that kid. 1530 01:26:13,585 --> 01:26:17,379 Part of Nica's journey is underlined by the fact 1531 01:26:17,463 --> 01:26:21,175 that she begins the movie with this incredibIe Ioad of guiIt 1532 01:26:21,259 --> 01:26:23,635 aboиt what she's done to her niece, Alice. 1533 01:26:23,720 --> 01:26:26,013 And then she finds oиt that AIice is dead. 1534 01:26:26,097 --> 01:26:27,389 And it devastates her. 1535 01:26:27,473 --> 01:26:30,142 And then, at the end, she's like, "Fиck that kid." 1536 01:26:31,477 --> 01:26:34,730 This was fиn. It was Iike... Bringing Tiffany back. 1537 01:26:35,148 --> 01:26:38,317 In the originaI script, there was a mиch more elaborate scene, 1538 01:26:38,401 --> 01:26:39,943 and I won't go into detaiI about it 1539 01:26:40,028 --> 01:26:41,570 because maybe we can bring it out for the next movie. 1540 01:26:41,654 --> 01:26:42,654 I think you shouId. 1541 01:26:42,739 --> 01:26:46,867 But there was this whoIe scene with Tiffany and Christine ЕIise as KyIe. 1542 01:26:46,951 --> 01:26:50,329 And we stiII were abIe to do a IittIe tag with Christine, 1543 01:26:50,496 --> 01:26:52,706 which appears at the end of the credits. 1544 01:26:52,790 --> 01:26:55,083 I guess we shouId just keep taIking over the credits. 1545 01:26:55,168 --> 01:26:56,168 There you go. 1546 01:26:56,252 --> 01:26:57,586 This was that night. 1547 01:26:57,670 --> 01:27:00,881 I think that was the Iast shot we did 1548 01:27:00,965 --> 01:27:04,301 before we had to break becaиse of the snow. 1549 01:27:04,385 --> 01:27:05,802 -It was a bIizzard. -Yeah. 1550 01:27:05,887 --> 01:27:09,181 We had to abandon everything and run for it. 1551 01:27:13,019 --> 01:27:17,773 That Iocation where we were shooting was called Oak Hammock Marsh, 1552 01:27:17,857 --> 01:27:20,525 but it was a wiIdIife preserve. 1553 01:27:22,278 --> 01:27:26,281 And they had a chiIdren's museum and bunch of stuff in there that we got Iost in 1554 01:27:26,366 --> 01:27:28,242 for few hours whiIe we were waiting 1555 01:27:28,326 --> 01:27:30,077 -for the weather to improve. -Yeah, it was just a weird... 1556 01:27:30,161 --> 01:27:32,746 -It was an odd night. -Very weird night. 1557 01:27:32,830 --> 01:27:36,124 l see in the cast Rachel, Allison-Dawn... 1558 01:27:36,209 --> 01:27:39,086 I don't know if I'm pronouncing it... Doiron? Doiron? 1559 01:27:39,170 --> 01:27:42,631 She pIays Andy's date at the beginning of the movie. 1560 01:27:42,715 --> 01:27:46,718 And by weird coincidence, she is the coиsin of MichaeI TherriaиIt 1561 01:27:46,803 --> 01:27:48,679 -who pIays Dr. FoIey. -You're kidding. 1562 01:27:48,763 --> 01:27:55,227 And when MichaeI TherriaиIt first sent in his aиdition, 1563 01:27:55,812 --> 01:27:59,481 the offscreen voice that he's reading with is AIIison. 1564 01:27:59,565 --> 01:28:04,027 Bиt that was before AIIison ever read for the character of RacheI 1565 01:28:04,112 --> 01:28:05,737 -in that scene. -That's funny. 1566 01:28:06,322 --> 01:28:09,700 Just another way we puII peopIe into the cuIt of Chucky, 1567 01:28:09,784 --> 01:28:11,910 and they can't Ieave. 1568 01:28:12,870 --> 01:28:16,790 There's my daughter, Brianna Gardner, puIIed into the AIterian crew. 1569 01:28:18,042 --> 01:28:19,126 I didn't know that. 1570 01:28:19,210 --> 01:28:22,587 Yeah. She has an incredibIe eye for detaiI 1571 01:28:22,672 --> 01:28:25,007 and the patience of a saint. 1572 01:28:25,091 --> 01:28:30,512 So aII the shoes and aII the stиff that had IittIe tiny patterns with reaIIy cIean Iines, 1573 01:28:30,596 --> 01:28:33,223 she focused, did an amazing job. 1574 01:28:33,308 --> 01:28:34,558 How oId is she? 1575 01:28:35,101 --> 01:28:36,184 Twenty-three. 1576 01:28:36,936 --> 01:28:38,770 You have another daughter, Kyra. 1577 01:28:38,855 --> 01:28:44,359 And then Kyra, my youngest, is 19, and then my oIdest is Austin, my son. 1578 01:28:44,444 --> 01:28:45,402 He's 25. 1579 01:28:45,486 --> 01:28:49,614 So the three of them are kind of invoIved around the periphery. 1580 01:28:49,699 --> 01:28:54,411 This is the first time that one of them reaIIy worked on a show the whoIe way through. 1581 01:28:54,495 --> 01:28:57,914 And then Kyra did a documentary for fiIm schooI... 1582 01:28:57,999 --> 01:29:00,000 Let's pIug the documentary. 1583 01:29:00,543 --> 01:29:04,671 Оn the whoIe experience of making these Chucky fiIms, 1584 01:29:04,756 --> 01:29:08,800 and she's kind of become part of the famiIy dynamic now, too. 1585 01:29:08,885 --> 01:29:11,053 -Now she's got sucked in. -Yeah. 1586 01:29:11,137 --> 01:29:12,554 So Aиstin is the Iast one Ieft. 1587 01:29:12,638 --> 01:29:17,559 So, in 20 years, her kid wiII be making a documentary about her. 1588 01:29:17,643 --> 01:29:18,935 Right. Right. 1589 01:29:19,020 --> 01:29:21,563 Yeah, we reaIIy Iove that documentary. 1590 01:29:21,647 --> 01:29:26,735 Kyra interviewed me and Brad and Fiona and David, 1591 01:29:26,819 --> 01:29:33,033 and it was incredibIy sweet just to see us 1592 01:29:33,117 --> 01:29:36,661 -as if from by a fly on the waII. -Offstage. Yeah. 1593 01:29:36,746 --> 01:29:38,789 It was nice to see Brad and Fiona together. 1594 01:29:38,873 --> 01:29:41,583 It was reaIIy sweet to see them together. Yeah. 1595 01:29:41,667 --> 01:29:48,215 I think this added an extra Iayer of magic for Brad 1596 01:29:48,299 --> 01:29:50,675 -because he's so proud of Fiona. -Yeah. 1597 01:29:50,760 --> 01:29:52,844 And it's just reaIIy speciaI for him 1598 01:29:52,929 --> 01:29:56,848 that his daughter has become the femaIe Iead of this franchise. 1599 01:30:03,981 --> 01:30:05,315 -There we go. -We go back to... 1600 01:30:05,400 --> 01:30:09,528 Remember the head that Andy Ieft back in reeI three? 1601 01:30:09,695 --> 01:30:11,613 He's stiII aroиnd. 1602 01:30:11,697 --> 01:30:13,365 He was never put away. 1603 01:30:13,449 --> 01:30:15,909 WeII, he had to Ieave in a hurry. 1604 01:30:15,993 --> 01:30:19,287 ln the first draft, remember, the head hurled itseIf into the firepIace. 1605 01:30:19,372 --> 01:30:21,665 Right, right. And ate its face off. 1606 01:30:21,749 --> 01:30:24,626 Yeah. Well, l was like, "l don't know how that ever was gonna work." 1607 01:30:24,710 --> 01:30:26,002 Very agiIe head. 1608 01:30:26,087 --> 01:30:28,797 Anyway, so we just decided to end it Iike this. 1609 01:30:28,881 --> 01:30:31,800 But it feIt Iike a fun way to bring Christine back. 1610 01:30:31,884 --> 01:30:33,218 I Iove Christine. 1611 01:30:33,302 --> 01:30:36,388 She's aIso someone I've remained friends with for 25 years. 1612 01:30:36,472 --> 01:30:37,639 And that cap. 1613 01:30:37,723 --> 01:30:41,017 That's the cap she wore as KyIe in Child's Play 2. 1614 01:30:41,102 --> 01:30:45,272 She aIso wore it as her character in Beverly Hills, 9021 0. 1615 01:30:45,356 --> 01:30:47,774 -And it's the very same cap. -That's great. 1616 01:30:47,859 --> 01:30:49,568 WeII, thank you guys for watching. 1617 01:30:49,652 --> 01:30:51,361 I hope you Iiked the movie. 1618 01:30:51,446 --> 00:00:00,-001 -Yeah, Iet us know. Thank you. -Let us know onIine. Bye.