1 00:00:28,762 --> 00:00:30,389 This picture, 2 00:00:30,430 --> 00:00:33,194 truly one of the most unusual ever filmed, 3 00:00:33,233 --> 00:00:36,828 contains scenes which under no circumstances 4 00:00:36,870 --> 00:00:39,600 should be viewed by anyone with a heart condition 5 00:00:39,639 --> 00:00:42,233 or anyone who is easily upset. 6 00:00:42,275 --> 00:00:44,300 We urgently recommend 7 00:00:44,344 --> 00:00:47,177 that if you are such a person or the parent 8 00:00:47,213 --> 00:00:50,546 of a young or impressionable child now in attendance, 9 00:00:50,583 --> 00:00:54,314 that you and the child leave the auditorium. 10 00:02:26,613 --> 00:02:29,173 ( trumpet playing ) 11 00:02:42,128 --> 00:02:44,824 Narrator: Rome was the largest and the most beautiful city 12 00:02:44,864 --> 00:02:47,332 of the ancient world. 13 00:02:47,367 --> 00:02:49,767 The magnificent facade of the empire, however, 14 00:02:49,802 --> 00:02:53,203 could not conceal the seeds of decay, 15 00:02:53,239 --> 00:02:57,073 the unhealthy dependence of the economy on slaves, 16 00:02:57,110 --> 00:03:00,307 the disparity between rich and poor. 17 00:03:00,346 --> 00:03:02,211 Behind the splendor of the Forum 18 00:03:02,248 --> 00:03:05,308 were vast areas of crowded slums. 19 00:03:05,351 --> 00:03:09,685 Escape from the slums was difficult for there were few jobs available 20 00:03:09,722 --> 00:03:12,190 and practically none for the unskilled. 21 00:03:12,225 --> 00:03:15,558 To keep idle citizens entertained and out of mischief, 22 00:03:15,595 --> 00:03:19,656 frequent games and spectacles were held at public expense. 23 00:03:19,699 --> 00:03:22,862 At first, only chariot races were sponsored. 24 00:03:22,902 --> 00:03:24,699 But by the reign of Trajan, 25 00:03:24,737 --> 00:03:27,865 brutal combat to the death had become popular. 26 00:03:27,907 --> 00:03:29,966 Earlier in Rome's history, 27 00:03:30,009 --> 00:03:32,876 elected representatives exercised the power. 28 00:03:32,912 --> 00:03:35,312 But by now, every function of government 29 00:03:35,348 --> 00:03:37,373 had been absorbed by the emperor 30 00:03:37,417 --> 00:03:40,443 who was above the law and ruled by decree. 31 00:03:40,486 --> 00:03:43,421 That a people as civilized as the Romans, 32 00:03:43,456 --> 00:03:46,448 with the most humane system of law ever devised, 33 00:03:46,492 --> 00:03:48,824 could tolerate the violation of human beings 34 00:03:48,861 --> 00:03:50,795 is astonishing. 35 00:03:50,830 --> 00:03:53,594 This imbalance and the irresponsible behavior 36 00:03:53,633 --> 00:03:56,659 of public officials would become major reasons 37 00:03:56,703 --> 00:03:59,570 for Rome's eventual decline. 38 00:04:01,641 --> 00:04:05,509 Michael Moore: l wonder how future civilizations will view our society. 39 00:04:05,545 --> 00:04:07,410 Will they judge us by this? 40 00:04:07,447 --> 00:04:09,472 - ( mews ) 41 00:04:09,515 --> 00:04:13,474 "" He's a cat flushin' a toilet, he's a cat flushin' a toilet "" 42 00:04:13,519 --> 00:04:15,646 "" He's a cat flushin' a toilet. "" 43 00:04:16,723 --> 00:04:18,247 ( mews ) 44 00:04:18,291 --> 00:04:21,928 Moore: Or will they judge us by this? 45 00:04:32,372 --> 00:04:34,237 Man #1 : Do you see the sheriff's car? 46 00:04:34,274 --> 00:04:37,300 Man #2: Yeah, right there. The sheriff-- that's the first car. 47 00:04:37,343 --> 00:04:39,709 - Woman: No-- - There he is. 48 00:04:54,761 --> 00:04:57,662 Man #3: Three, four, five, six... 49 00:04:57,697 --> 00:04:59,688 Woman: Seven. 50 00:05:08,141 --> 00:05:10,200 - Man #1 : Give me the phone. - Woman: lt's on this-- 51 00:05:10,243 --> 00:05:13,440 it's on the c-- it's on the couch. 52 00:05:13,479 --> 00:05:16,971 All right, that's as close as l can get, Dad. 53 00:05:21,754 --> 00:05:24,552 - Don't stand in front of the door, Dad. - ( knocking ) 54 00:05:24,590 --> 00:05:26,922 ( whispering ) Get out from the-- 55 00:05:26,959 --> 00:05:29,484 Hey, Sheriff, Robert inside the house here. 56 00:05:29,529 --> 00:05:32,259 - ( knocking ) - ( loud banging ) 57 00:05:32,298 --> 00:05:34,892 Woman: They're trying to beat the back door in, Dad. 58 00:05:34,934 --> 00:05:36,424 ( loud banging ) 59 00:05:36,469 --> 00:05:39,199 There are four of us in here. They're beating on the door. 60 00:05:39,238 --> 00:05:41,866 We're not gonna resist, but you will have to come 61 00:05:41,908 --> 00:05:43,876 in the house on your own. 62 00:05:43,910 --> 00:05:46,174 But there are four souls in this house. 63 00:05:49,949 --> 00:05:52,076 Woman: Dad, don't stand in front of the door. 64 00:05:52,118 --> 00:05:54,086 - Do not. - ( doorknob rattling ) 65 00:05:54,120 --> 00:05:58,284 ( banging continues ) 66 00:06:01,127 --> 00:06:03,118 Woman: Another witness. 67 00:06:03,162 --> 00:06:04,686 Tell your name to the camera. 68 00:06:04,731 --> 00:06:08,792 - l'm David Phillips. - Chris Collins. 69 00:06:08,835 --> 00:06:11,201 And Audra Collins. 70 00:06:11,237 --> 00:06:13,865 ( banging continues ) 71 00:06:16,175 --> 00:06:18,439 - David: And this is America? - Chris: Uh-huh. 72 00:06:18,478 --> 00:06:21,743 Audra: This is America, folks, what you're watching right here. 73 00:06:32,792 --> 00:06:35,317 - Sheriff's office. - Robert: Yeah, we know. 74 00:06:35,361 --> 00:06:39,923 - Okay, y'all have to come out, please. - Robert: All right. 75 00:06:39,966 --> 00:06:44,460 Woman: We cannot act like this-- this is just something that's okay. 76 00:06:44,504 --> 00:06:46,472 And so this is new. 77 00:06:46,506 --> 00:06:49,373 They've never come out and boarded up our house 78 00:06:49,409 --> 00:06:51,172 after they've evicted the person 79 00:06:51,210 --> 00:06:53,770 and threw their furniture in the dumpster. 80 00:06:53,813 --> 00:06:55,838 So they're letting us know 81 00:06:55,882 --> 00:06:59,409 that they are stepping it up, 82 00:06:59,452 --> 00:07:01,784 boarding up somebody's house. 83 00:07:01,821 --> 00:07:03,880 This has been my family home. This is my parents' house. 84 00:07:03,923 --> 00:07:06,153 l've lived here for 41 years. 85 00:07:08,761 --> 00:07:11,127 This is the only home l've ever really lived in. 86 00:07:11,164 --> 00:07:13,962 This is the only-- this will always be home to me, no matter what. 87 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:15,729 - l'm a carpenter. - Woman: There you go. 88 00:07:15,768 --> 00:07:17,895 Man #1 : Sandra, they're leaving. Let them leave. 89 00:07:17,937 --> 00:07:20,462 - Man #2: l'm a carpenter. So what? - That's all l am. 90 00:07:22,975 --> 00:07:25,739 - Well, people pay their bills. - This could happen to you. 91 00:07:25,778 --> 00:07:28,269 Carpenter: That's right. So why do you think l'm doing it? 92 00:07:28,314 --> 00:07:30,441 l don't have to be happy about this, but that's what l do. 93 00:07:30,483 --> 00:07:33,350 Sandra: That's all l'm saying is that maybe you can make another choice. 94 00:07:33,386 --> 00:07:35,980 - That's all we're saying. - That's no reason for... 95 00:07:36,022 --> 00:07:37,580 Sandra: You're a working-class person. 96 00:07:37,623 --> 00:07:40,649 ...people here to get upset and almost get themselves hurt. 97 00:07:40,693 --> 00:07:43,423 We ain't gonna get hurt. 98 00:07:43,463 --> 00:07:44,987 Are you threatening us? 99 00:07:45,031 --> 00:07:47,829 Y'all gonna get on out of here. You might end up even getting hurt. 100 00:07:47,867 --> 00:07:50,734 Talking about us getting hurt, you might get hurt. 101 00:07:50,770 --> 00:07:52,897 Man: There's gonna be some kind of a rebellion 102 00:07:52,939 --> 00:07:55,965 between the people that have nothing 103 00:07:56,008 --> 00:07:59,375 and the people that's got it all. 104 00:07:59,412 --> 00:08:00,936 l don't understand. 105 00:08:00,980 --> 00:08:02,880 There's no in-between no more. 106 00:08:02,915 --> 00:08:05,008 There's the people that's got it all 107 00:08:05,051 --> 00:08:06,951 and the people that have nothing. 108 00:08:09,822 --> 00:08:12,416 We gotta get this stuff out of the house and packed up 109 00:08:12,458 --> 00:08:15,325 and be out of here in about 30 days 110 00:08:15,361 --> 00:08:17,693 even though we don't have a place to go. 111 00:08:21,334 --> 00:08:24,167 Oh. 112 00:08:24,203 --> 00:08:26,296 Woman: We designed this house. 113 00:08:26,339 --> 00:08:30,366 The property that it's on was my family farm. 114 00:08:32,645 --> 00:08:37,639 So l've lost a piece of my heritage with this. 115 00:08:37,683 --> 00:08:41,414 Why do you do this to the hard-working people? 116 00:08:46,726 --> 00:08:50,093 Why do you take everything? 117 00:08:50,129 --> 00:08:52,996 You take everything away from them. 118 00:08:53,032 --> 00:08:56,331 We're just middle-class, hard-working people 119 00:08:56,369 --> 00:08:58,462 trying to make a living. 120 00:09:01,073 --> 00:09:03,940 Just trying to survive. 121 00:09:07,480 --> 00:09:09,573 An old Browning. 122 00:09:11,150 --> 00:09:13,812 ( grunts ) My pistol, 123 00:09:13,853 --> 00:09:17,550 my dad's pistol, my pistol. 124 00:09:17,590 --> 00:09:19,387 ( sighs ) 125 00:09:19,425 --> 00:09:21,985 - ( knocking ) - Man: Sheriff's department. 126 00:09:22,028 --> 00:09:24,223 lt's supposed to be 30 days. 127 00:09:24,263 --> 00:09:26,356 l got 30 days to get my stuff out. 128 00:09:26,399 --> 00:09:28,959 - That's what the guy told me. - No. 129 00:09:29,001 --> 00:09:30,969 What? 130 00:09:31,003 --> 00:09:33,836 lt's currently scheduled for today. 131 00:09:33,873 --> 00:09:35,397 But... 132 00:09:35,441 --> 00:09:37,739 The paper's telling us that we are due 133 00:09:37,777 --> 00:09:41,178 to do an eviction here today at 9:00 AM. 134 00:09:41,213 --> 00:09:43,238 Huh, shoot. 135 00:09:44,517 --> 00:09:47,281 Well, he's surprised too. 136 00:09:47,320 --> 00:09:49,481 The house is gone. 137 00:09:49,522 --> 00:09:51,046 That cop told me that the house 138 00:09:51,090 --> 00:09:53,354 has already been sold to somebody else. 139 00:09:53,392 --> 00:09:56,589 So we don't own the house no more, somebody else does. 140 00:09:57,930 --> 00:10:00,899 Moore: This is capitalism, 141 00:10:00,933 --> 00:10:04,562 a system of taking and giving-- 142 00:10:04,604 --> 00:10:07,129 mostly taking. 143 00:10:07,173 --> 00:10:09,073 The only thing we didn't know 144 00:10:09,108 --> 00:10:12,305 was when the revolt would begin. 145 00:10:12,345 --> 00:10:14,506 Man: Everything, we've tried everything... 146 00:10:14,547 --> 00:10:16,174 except robbing a bank. 147 00:10:16,215 --> 00:10:18,843 l'm thinking about maybe doing that. 148 00:10:18,884 --> 00:10:22,718 You know, that's one way somebody could get their money back. 149 00:10:22,755 --> 00:10:24,814 lf they did it-- they did it to me, 150 00:10:24,857 --> 00:10:27,326 l don't know why l can't do it to them. 151 00:10:31,263 --> 00:10:33,458 Peter Zalewski: This is my second Hyundai Sonata. 152 00:10:33,499 --> 00:10:34,966 l'll probably get a new car next year. 153 00:10:35,001 --> 00:10:36,730 And when l do, it'll probably be another Sonata. 154 00:10:36,769 --> 00:10:38,327 You know, l'm not a car guy. 155 00:10:38,371 --> 00:10:40,134 lf l can go in there and steal a condo 156 00:10:40,172 --> 00:10:42,663 for the equivalent of what a Mercedes would cost 157 00:10:42,708 --> 00:10:45,176 or a Bentley would cost, l'm all about that. 158 00:10:46,178 --> 00:10:48,078 Moore: Meet Peter Zalewski, 159 00:10:48,114 --> 00:10:50,480 Florida's up-and-coming real estate whiz. 160 00:10:50,516 --> 00:10:52,040 Here we go. 161 00:10:52,084 --> 00:10:55,645 Moore: He calls his real estate company Condo Vultures. 162 00:10:55,688 --> 00:10:57,349 ( stuttering ) We have a very good sign. 163 00:10:57,390 --> 00:10:58,914 You have the final notice of eviction. 164 00:10:58,958 --> 00:11:00,949 So you can see this person was basically thrown out 165 00:11:00,993 --> 00:11:02,824 by the police department. 166 00:11:02,862 --> 00:11:04,796 Welcome. 167 00:11:06,098 --> 00:11:07,725 Moore: Peter deals exclusively 168 00:11:07,767 --> 00:11:10,031 with clients who buy up foreclosed homes 169 00:11:10,069 --> 00:11:12,503 and then resell them at a profit. 170 00:11:12,538 --> 00:11:15,166 lt's gonna be about 830 square feet or so... 171 00:11:15,207 --> 00:11:17,334 At the end of the day, the only people who are buying 172 00:11:17,376 --> 00:11:19,435 are primarily individuals that we represent... 173 00:11:19,478 --> 00:11:21,946 Today it's on the market for $66,000. 174 00:11:21,981 --> 00:11:24,245 ...which are basically bottom feeders who are going in there. 175 00:11:24,283 --> 00:11:26,148 They have no compassion, no sensitivity. 176 00:11:26,185 --> 00:11:28,949 They're running purely off numbers They're coming in all cash, 177 00:11:28,988 --> 00:11:31,388 and they're looking to slit any single seller's throat 178 00:11:31,424 --> 00:11:33,517 regardless of what their situation is. 179 00:11:33,559 --> 00:11:35,857 So people always ask, ''What's 25cents on the dollar?'' 180 00:11:35,895 --> 00:11:37,658 This is it. This is what you're gonna get. 181 00:11:37,697 --> 00:11:40,894 The vulture basically represents a bottom feeder 182 00:11:40,933 --> 00:11:44,198 that goes in there and cleans off a carcass. 183 00:11:44,236 --> 00:11:46,761 Because they're dealing with so many different germs and situations, 184 00:11:46,806 --> 00:11:49,104 they'll have to vomit on themselves and there's some sort 185 00:11:49,141 --> 00:11:51,075 of cleansing process that occurs. 186 00:11:51,110 --> 00:11:52,975 The vultures aren't actually killing, 187 00:11:53,012 --> 00:11:54,775 they're the ones doing the clean-up. 188 00:11:54,814 --> 00:11:56,304 Which bank you want? Bank of America? 189 00:11:56,348 --> 00:11:58,213 What we do is we tap into data... 190 00:11:58,250 --> 00:11:59,842 and boom, voila. 191 00:11:59,885 --> 00:12:03,252 Here we got 3,400 foreclosing by Bank of America. 192 00:12:03,289 --> 00:12:04,756 Gotta love it. 193 00:12:04,790 --> 00:12:07,315 As we collect data, it's giving us 194 00:12:07,359 --> 00:12:10,089 the insight into the battlefield, 195 00:12:10,129 --> 00:12:13,496 almost like a drone that flies over the battleground in Afghanistan 196 00:12:13,532 --> 00:12:16,501 or in Pakistan or in lraq. 197 00:12:16,535 --> 00:12:18,696 The current asking price is 355. 198 00:12:18,738 --> 00:12:20,797 Again, it was purchased for 840. 199 00:12:20,840 --> 00:12:23,138 A little bit of a discount. You're gonna have two... 200 00:12:23,175 --> 00:12:25,268 Our people are using that data to be able to go in 201 00:12:25,311 --> 00:12:28,303 and try to steal properties, legally and ethically, 202 00:12:28,347 --> 00:12:30,372 but take them at the bare-bone bottom price. 203 00:12:30,416 --> 00:12:32,384 lt's all about taking right now. 204 00:12:32,418 --> 00:12:35,319 Look at the-- look at the roof-- completely gone and missing. 205 00:12:35,354 --> 00:12:37,822 We haven't had a hurricane in five years. 206 00:12:37,857 --> 00:12:39,882 ( laughing ) 207 00:12:39,925 --> 00:12:42,450 Welcome to the housing crash, Miami style. 208 00:12:42,495 --> 00:12:44,190 So this-- this is what capitalism is 209 00:12:44,230 --> 00:12:46,391 and this is why the information is so critical. 210 00:12:46,432 --> 00:12:47,990 We go in there, we alert them to it, 211 00:12:48,033 --> 00:12:49,523 and if they like it, you know-- 212 00:12:49,568 --> 00:12:51,536 ( imitates shotgun ) 213 00:12:51,570 --> 00:12:53,003 - Look at the window. - Look at that. 214 00:12:53,038 --> 00:12:54,801 Looks like the house next door was on fire. 215 00:12:54,840 --> 00:12:56,705 This is straight up capitalism. 216 00:12:56,742 --> 00:12:59,233 - Fire damage. - l wonder if somebody was living there... 217 00:12:59,278 --> 00:13:01,269 Zalewski: Everybody's got this desire to go in there 218 00:13:01,313 --> 00:13:03,747 and take advantage of others' misfortunes. 219 00:13:03,783 --> 00:13:04,909 Somebody asked me, 220 00:13:04,950 --> 00:13:07,111 ''What's the difference between you and a real vulture?'' 221 00:13:07,153 --> 00:13:09,986 l said, ''lt's very simple. l don't vomit on myself.'' 222 00:13:12,358 --> 00:13:15,418 Our topic today: What is capitalism? 223 00:13:15,461 --> 00:13:16,621 Capitalism? 224 00:13:16,662 --> 00:13:19,130 Well, why should there be any question about it? 225 00:13:19,165 --> 00:13:22,623 Hasn't it given us the highest standard of living in the world? 226 00:13:22,668 --> 00:13:25,398 We're free to try to make a profit, 227 00:13:25,437 --> 00:13:27,735 to just get by, or to fail. 228 00:13:27,773 --> 00:13:29,764 That's what capitalism is: 229 00:13:29,809 --> 00:13:32,300 a system of free enterprise. 230 00:13:32,344 --> 00:13:34,642 Now tell us what ''free enterprise'' means. 231 00:13:35,915 --> 00:13:38,315 Moore: l went to see my friend Wally Shawn, 232 00:13:38,350 --> 00:13:40,545 a playwright and sometimes actor. 233 00:13:40,586 --> 00:13:42,110 lnconceivable! 234 00:13:42,154 --> 00:13:45,385 Moore: But Wally also studied history and politics 235 00:13:45,424 --> 00:13:48,291 and even a little elementary economics. 236 00:13:48,327 --> 00:13:52,593 Free enterprise is a form of words 237 00:13:52,631 --> 00:13:55,361 that is intended to conjure up in your mind 238 00:13:55,401 --> 00:14:00,338 a little town with different shops. 239 00:14:00,372 --> 00:14:03,307 And the guy who runs the best shop 240 00:14:03,342 --> 00:14:05,833 has the most customers. 241 00:14:05,878 --> 00:14:08,278 Narrator: There is the basis of the capitalistic system: 242 00:14:08,314 --> 00:14:09,906 the profit motive. 243 00:14:09,949 --> 00:14:12,782 He's in business to make money. 244 00:14:12,818 --> 00:14:15,286 Shawn: The original theory of capitalism 245 00:14:15,321 --> 00:14:18,313 is that it's a very clever way 246 00:14:18,357 --> 00:14:22,726 of society voting on what goods 247 00:14:22,761 --> 00:14:25,161 it wants made. 248 00:14:25,197 --> 00:14:27,028 What do you use this for? 249 00:14:27,066 --> 00:14:30,900 That's-- l could use that for practically everything l ever do. 250 00:14:30,936 --> 00:14:34,599 You know, society votes. 251 00:14:34,640 --> 00:14:36,904 They like the way this guy 252 00:14:36,942 --> 00:14:39,638 makes ice cream. 253 00:14:39,678 --> 00:14:41,305 But the other guy, 254 00:14:41,347 --> 00:14:44,680 they don't like his ice cream that much 255 00:14:44,717 --> 00:14:49,586 and they don't buy it, so it fades out. 256 00:14:49,622 --> 00:14:52,250 lt's on me. That is a good fit. 257 00:14:52,291 --> 00:14:56,625 Shawn: The basic law of life is that if you have things, 258 00:14:56,662 --> 00:15:00,029 you can easily get more things. 259 00:15:00,065 --> 00:15:03,057 Very quickly, one guy can have 260 00:15:03,102 --> 00:15:05,798 five times more than anybody else. 261 00:15:05,838 --> 00:15:08,238 - Free enterprise. - Competition. 262 00:15:08,274 --> 00:15:09,741 Woman: The profit motive. 263 00:15:11,744 --> 00:15:14,645 Moore: My dad, an assembly-line worker at General Motors, 264 00:15:14,680 --> 00:15:16,341 bought and paid for our house 265 00:15:16,382 --> 00:15:20,045 before l graduated from kindergarten. 266 00:15:20,085 --> 00:15:23,213 We had a new car every three years. 267 00:15:25,257 --> 00:15:28,090 We went to New York every other summer. 268 00:15:28,127 --> 00:15:31,096 That's me on Wall Street. 269 00:15:31,130 --> 00:15:33,030 And that's me directing my first movie 270 00:15:33,065 --> 00:15:34,589 at the World's Fair. 271 00:15:34,633 --> 00:15:38,660 We went to Catholic schools, we lived a good life. 272 00:15:40,439 --> 00:15:43,772 lf this was capitalism, l loved it... 273 00:15:43,809 --> 00:15:46,277 and so did everyone else. 274 00:15:46,312 --> 00:15:50,305 During these years a lot of people got rich 275 00:15:50,349 --> 00:15:54,342 and they had to pay a top tax rate of 90% . 276 00:15:54,386 --> 00:15:56,479 90% ? 277 00:15:56,522 --> 00:15:58,353 Yep. 278 00:15:58,390 --> 00:16:02,952 But they still got to live like Bogie and Bacall. 279 00:16:02,995 --> 00:16:05,327 And what did we do with all their money? 280 00:16:05,364 --> 00:16:08,128 We built damns, bridges, 281 00:16:08,167 --> 00:16:11,967 interstate highways, schools, hospitals. 282 00:16:12,004 --> 00:16:14,438 We even sent a guy to the moon. 283 00:16:14,473 --> 00:16:16,873 Things seemed to be going in the right direction. 284 00:16:16,909 --> 00:16:19,969 Dad had a secure job and Mom could work 285 00:16:20,012 --> 00:16:22,446 if she wanted, but didn't have to. 286 00:16:22,481 --> 00:16:26,383 Middle-class families only needed one income to survive. 287 00:16:26,418 --> 00:16:29,683 Our union family had free health care and free dental. 288 00:16:29,722 --> 00:16:33,180 The kids could go to college without getting a loan from a bank. 289 00:16:33,225 --> 00:16:36,854 Dad had four weeks paid vacation every summer. 290 00:16:36,895 --> 00:16:40,729 Most people had a savings account and little debt. 291 00:16:40,766 --> 00:16:44,532 And Dad's pension was set aside where no one could touch it. 292 00:16:44,570 --> 00:16:48,563 lt would be there for him when he retired. 293 00:16:48,607 --> 00:16:52,668 We got all of this because our main industrial competition 294 00:16:52,711 --> 00:16:55,236 had been reduced to rubble. 295 00:16:55,280 --> 00:16:57,942 Here's what the German car industry looked like. 296 00:16:57,983 --> 00:17:01,419 And here's the Japanese auto industry. 297 00:17:01,453 --> 00:17:03,546 l guess you could say it's easy to be number one 298 00:17:03,589 --> 00:17:06,524 when you have no competition. 299 00:17:06,558 --> 00:17:09,118 Yes, of course not everything was perfect. 300 00:17:09,161 --> 00:17:11,061 We didn't mind having to put up 301 00:17:11,096 --> 00:17:14,031 with a little bit of this and a little bit of that... 302 00:17:16,635 --> 00:17:19,263 just as long as we could be middle-class. 303 00:17:21,607 --> 00:17:25,304 And we could count on our kids having it better than we had it. 304 00:17:25,344 --> 00:17:28,677 lt sounded like a good deal to us. 305 00:17:28,714 --> 00:17:32,878 Capitalism-- no one ever had it so good. 306 00:17:40,759 --> 00:17:42,784 And then, right when we were in the middle 307 00:17:42,828 --> 00:17:46,265 of this big love affair with capitalism... 308 00:17:46,265 --> 00:17:48,733 Announcer: The ABC Sunday Night Movie ''The Gambler'' 309 00:17:48,767 --> 00:17:50,428 will continue in its entirety 310 00:17:50,469 --> 00:17:54,064 following this live report from ABC News. 311 00:17:54,106 --> 00:17:58,975 We are at a turning point in our history. 312 00:17:59,011 --> 00:18:01,275 Moore: Along came Debbie Downer. 313 00:18:01,313 --> 00:18:05,079 Too many of us now tend to worship 314 00:18:05,117 --> 00:18:09,520 self-indulgence and consumption. 315 00:18:09,555 --> 00:18:13,548 Human identity is no longer defined 316 00:18:13,592 --> 00:18:17,323 by what one does, 317 00:18:17,362 --> 00:18:20,229 but by what one owns. 318 00:18:20,265 --> 00:18:21,926 This is not a message 319 00:18:21,967 --> 00:18:25,528 of happiness or reassurance, 320 00:18:25,571 --> 00:18:27,801 but it is the truth 321 00:18:27,840 --> 00:18:29,831 and it is a warning. 322 00:18:29,875 --> 00:18:31,843 Moore: Wow, what a bummer. 323 00:18:31,877 --> 00:18:35,005 lt was time to bring a new sheriff to town... 324 00:18:35,047 --> 00:18:36,139 ( horse whinnies ) 325 00:18:36,181 --> 00:18:38,649 ...one who knew how to act like a president. 326 00:18:38,684 --> 00:18:42,347 He knew how to handle workers who wanted a better wage. 327 00:18:42,387 --> 00:18:44,651 ( gunshot ) 328 00:18:44,690 --> 00:18:47,625 All right, mister, l guess you win. 329 00:18:47,659 --> 00:18:49,149 Moore: Or these annoying feminists 330 00:18:49,194 --> 00:18:51,958 whining about their Equal Rights Amendment. 331 00:18:51,997 --> 00:18:54,465 Well, l can change that in a hurry. 332 00:18:56,168 --> 00:18:59,968 Moore: A man who knew how to get the job done. 333 00:19:00,005 --> 00:19:03,532 Ronald Reagan came out of the B movies 334 00:19:03,575 --> 00:19:07,739 to become the most famous corporate spokesman of the 1950s. 335 00:19:07,779 --> 00:19:10,475 lt's a transistor radio too. Weighs only a few ounces. 336 00:19:10,516 --> 00:19:11,949 You can slip it right into your pocket. 337 00:19:11,984 --> 00:19:14,350 Boraxo waterless hand cleaner really cleans up for us. 338 00:19:14,386 --> 00:19:16,320 Moore: He had found his calling 339 00:19:16,355 --> 00:19:19,290 and Wall Street had found their man. 340 00:19:19,324 --> 00:19:22,384 You see, the banks and corporations had a simple plan: 341 00:19:22,427 --> 00:19:25,794 to remake America to serve them. 342 00:19:25,831 --> 00:19:27,423 But to pull it off would require 343 00:19:27,466 --> 00:19:30,492 electing a spokesmodel for president. 344 00:19:30,536 --> 00:19:34,734 And on November 4th, 1980, that's what we did. 345 00:19:34,773 --> 00:19:36,604 ...that l will faithfully execute 346 00:19:36,642 --> 00:19:38,837 the office of President of the United States. 347 00:19:38,877 --> 00:19:41,072 Crowd: Ronald Ronald Ronald... 348 00:19:41,113 --> 00:19:43,343 Thank you. 349 00:19:43,382 --> 00:19:46,112 Moore: lt was an historic moment 350 00:19:46,151 --> 00:19:48,915 because now corporate America and Wall Street 351 00:19:48,954 --> 00:19:51,946 were in almost complete control. 352 00:19:51,990 --> 00:19:54,686 See that guy standing next to the president? 353 00:19:54,726 --> 00:19:57,593 You know, the one that looks like a butler? 354 00:19:57,629 --> 00:19:59,995 His name was Don Regan, 355 00:20:00,032 --> 00:20:02,296 the Chairman of Merrill Lynch, 356 00:20:02,334 --> 00:20:06,862 the richest and biggest retail brokerage firm in the world. 357 00:20:06,905 --> 00:20:09,874 He took the key position of Treasury Secretary 358 00:20:09,908 --> 00:20:13,776 so he could enact the tax cuts that the rich wanted. 359 00:20:13,812 --> 00:20:16,110 Regan then became White House Chief of Staff 360 00:20:16,148 --> 00:20:19,709 as the president started to fade. 361 00:20:19,751 --> 00:20:22,879 Then they should give the president what 43 governors have, 362 00:20:22,921 --> 00:20:25,389 a line-item veto. 363 00:20:25,424 --> 00:20:27,585 - And... - ( applause ) 364 00:20:27,626 --> 00:20:31,687 - You're gonna have to speed it up. - Oh. 365 00:20:31,730 --> 00:20:34,893 Moore: Who tells the president to speed it up? 366 00:20:34,933 --> 00:20:38,767 The man from Merrill Lynch, that's who. 367 00:20:38,804 --> 00:20:43,264 Things in America would never be the same again. 368 00:20:43,308 --> 00:20:46,744 The country would now be run like a corporation. 369 00:20:46,778 --> 00:20:48,871 We're going to turn the bull loose. 370 00:20:48,914 --> 00:20:52,281 ( cheering, applause ) 371 00:20:52,317 --> 00:20:55,912 Moore: And four years later, when Reagan ran for reelection, 372 00:20:55,954 --> 00:20:59,390 it was all smiley faces and happy talk. 373 00:20:59,424 --> 00:21:01,949 l really feel that we're gonna be better off in the long run. 374 00:21:01,994 --> 00:21:04,929 We're on the upward swing 375 00:21:04,963 --> 00:21:08,490 and the factories are working much stronger than before. 376 00:21:08,533 --> 00:21:10,933 We're back on top. 377 00:21:14,473 --> 00:21:16,839 Moore: Actually, what Reagan presided over 378 00:21:16,875 --> 00:21:21,437 was the wholesale dismantling of our industrial infrastructure. 379 00:21:21,480 --> 00:21:25,314 This was not done to save money or remain competitive, 380 00:21:25,350 --> 00:21:27,409 as companies back then were already posting 381 00:21:27,452 --> 00:21:30,853 record earnings in the billions. 382 00:21:30,889 --> 00:21:34,620 No, it was done for short-term profits... 383 00:21:38,730 --> 00:21:41,631 and to destroy the unions. 384 00:21:41,667 --> 00:21:44,761 Millions of people were thrown out of work 385 00:21:44,803 --> 00:21:48,136 and the remaining workers were told to work twice as hard. 386 00:21:49,608 --> 00:21:53,066 But wages for working people remained frozen. 387 00:21:54,980 --> 00:21:57,813 The richest Americans had their top income tax rate 388 00:21:57,849 --> 00:22:00,784 cut in half. 389 00:22:02,621 --> 00:22:05,715 lnstead of being paid a decent wage, 390 00:22:05,757 --> 00:22:08,521 we were encouraged to live on borrowed money 391 00:22:08,560 --> 00:22:12,621 until our household debt was nearly 100% of the GDP. 392 00:22:12,664 --> 00:22:15,827 There was an explosion of personal bankruptcies. 393 00:22:15,867 --> 00:22:19,735 We found it necessary to lock up millions of our citizens. 394 00:22:19,771 --> 00:22:22,069 Sales of antidepressants skyrocketed 395 00:22:22,107 --> 00:22:24,701 as insurance and pharmaceutical company greed 396 00:22:24,743 --> 00:22:27,940 pushed the cost of healthcare up and up. 397 00:22:27,979 --> 00:22:31,506 All of this was great news for the stock market 398 00:22:31,550 --> 00:22:34,610 and for America's CEOs. 399 00:22:39,624 --> 00:22:41,319 Moore: Half of Flint was now receiving 400 00:22:41,360 --> 00:22:44,523 some form of government welfare. 401 00:22:44,563 --> 00:22:46,428 During the end of the Reagan years, 402 00:22:46,465 --> 00:22:49,696 l made my first movie about what had happened to the country 403 00:22:49,735 --> 00:22:53,193 and specifically to my hometown of Flint, Michigan, 404 00:22:53,238 --> 00:22:56,469 the birthplace of General Motors. 405 00:22:56,508 --> 00:23:00,376 GM was posting profits of over $4 billion 406 00:23:00,412 --> 00:23:02,403 while at the same time eliminating 407 00:23:02,447 --> 00:23:05,211 tens of thousands of jobs. 408 00:23:05,250 --> 00:23:09,186 l went to see GM's chief lobbyist in Flint, Mr. Tom Kay, 409 00:23:09,221 --> 00:23:12,418 to ask him why this was happening. 410 00:23:12,457 --> 00:23:15,449 General Motors wouldn't be doing anybody any service 411 00:23:15,494 --> 00:23:16,961 if it goes bankrupt. 412 00:23:16,995 --> 00:23:18,758 lt has to do what it has to do 413 00:23:18,797 --> 00:23:21,994 in order to stay competitive in today's economic climate. 414 00:23:22,033 --> 00:23:26,094 Moore: Even if that means eliminating 18,000 jobs? 415 00:23:26,138 --> 00:23:29,107 Even if it means eliminating 20,000 jobs. 416 00:23:29,141 --> 00:23:31,439 - Or 30,000? - Whatever. 417 00:23:31,476 --> 00:23:36,038 - How about all the jobs here in Flint? - lt could feasibly happen. 418 00:23:36,081 --> 00:23:38,641 Moore: And it did. 419 00:23:38,683 --> 00:23:41,481 Nearly all the jobs were eliminated 420 00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:44,284 and GM went bankrupt. 421 00:23:46,091 --> 00:23:49,720 Perhaps more distressing was the fact that the rest of America 422 00:23:49,761 --> 00:23:53,891 was now starting to resemble Flint, Michigan. 423 00:23:53,932 --> 00:23:58,096 But there were some cities that still took pride in their greatness. 424 00:23:58,136 --> 00:23:59,899 "" Cleveland "" 425 00:23:59,938 --> 00:24:02,429 "" Come on down to Cleveland Town, everyone "" 426 00:24:02,474 --> 00:24:05,375 "" Come and look at both of our buildings "" 427 00:24:05,410 --> 00:24:08,208 "" Here's the place where there used to be industry "" 428 00:24:08,246 --> 00:24:11,079 "" This train is carrying jobs out of Cleveland "" 429 00:24:11,116 --> 00:24:14,108 "" See the sun almost three times a year "" 430 00:24:14,152 --> 00:24:16,916 "" This guy has at least two DUls "" 431 00:24:16,955 --> 00:24:19,890 "" Our economy's based on LeBron James "" 432 00:24:19,925 --> 00:24:22,758 "" Buy a house for the price of a VCR "" 433 00:24:22,794 --> 00:24:25,490 "" Our main export is crippling depression "" 434 00:24:25,530 --> 00:24:28,499 "" We're so retarded that we think this is art "" 435 00:24:28,533 --> 00:24:33,163 "" lt could be worse, though, at least we're not Detroit "" 436 00:24:33,205 --> 00:24:35,400 "" We're not Detroit. "" 437 00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:39,137 Moore: No, they're not Detroit. 438 00:24:39,177 --> 00:24:41,805 For 20 years l tried to warn GM and others 439 00:24:41,847 --> 00:24:45,510 that this day was coming, but to no avail. 440 00:24:45,550 --> 00:24:47,814 Maybe now they'd listen. 441 00:24:47,853 --> 00:24:50,287 So l went down to the headquarters of General Motors 442 00:24:50,322 --> 00:24:53,985 one last time to share some of my ideas. 443 00:24:54,025 --> 00:24:56,186 You don't have permission. You can't film here. 444 00:24:56,228 --> 00:24:57,217 Huh? 445 00:24:57,262 --> 00:24:59,059 You don't have permission from General Motors. 446 00:24:59,097 --> 00:25:01,691 - You can't film here. - l'm just going up to see the chairman. 447 00:25:01,733 --> 00:25:03,724 No, sir. No, sir. 448 00:25:03,768 --> 00:25:05,998 You know, l've been doing this for, like, 20 years. 449 00:25:06,037 --> 00:25:07,527 l understand, sir. 450 00:25:07,572 --> 00:25:11,064 And l have not been let into this building for 20 years, 451 00:25:11,109 --> 00:25:14,772 and l think it's about time someone just let me in 452 00:25:14,813 --> 00:25:16,440 and let me talk to them. 453 00:25:16,481 --> 00:25:18,346 l've got some good ideas. 454 00:25:18,383 --> 00:25:22,820 4-7 to 7-6 Bravo Area Alpha. 455 00:25:22,854 --> 00:25:25,254 Man: Go ahead. 456 00:25:25,290 --> 00:25:28,521 lt's Michael Moore here to see the chairman. 457 00:25:30,829 --> 00:25:33,354 Repeat that. 458 00:25:33,398 --> 00:25:35,491 lt's the filmmaker Mr. Michael Moore. 459 00:25:35,534 --> 00:25:37,525 He's here to see the chairman. 460 00:25:38,770 --> 00:25:40,362 - Gentlemen. - Yes. 461 00:25:40,405 --> 00:25:42,805 You need to get prior permission. You cannot film here, okay? 462 00:25:42,841 --> 00:25:45,571 But if l can't go in and get permission, what am l supposed to do? 463 00:25:45,610 --> 00:25:48,101 l guess they're right. Breaking up is hard to do. 464 00:25:48,146 --> 00:25:50,444 Stop that. Don't do that. Just go in the building. 465 00:25:50,482 --> 00:25:53,178 Moore: For 35 years, GM made more money 466 00:25:53,218 --> 00:25:55,311 than any other corporation. 467 00:25:55,353 --> 00:25:56,945 But eventually, Germany and Japan 468 00:25:56,988 --> 00:25:59,786 rebuilt their car industry and produced vehicles 469 00:25:59,824 --> 00:26:02,850 that were safer than ours, more fuel efficient 470 00:26:02,894 --> 00:26:05,055 and rarely, if ever, broke down. 471 00:26:08,166 --> 00:26:12,535 ln Germany, unions help hire and fire the board of directors 472 00:26:12,571 --> 00:26:15,972 so the workers have a say in what's going on. 473 00:26:18,843 --> 00:26:20,834 You see, the people of Japan and Germany 474 00:26:21,112 --> 00:26:24,548 fight to make sure that even their conservative political leaders 475 00:26:24,583 --> 00:26:26,710 don't destroy their middle class. 476 00:26:31,056 --> 00:26:33,684 So where exactly are we right now? 477 00:26:33,725 --> 00:26:38,287 On the day that General Motors declared Chapter 11 bankruptcy, 478 00:26:38,330 --> 00:26:41,766 l went with my dad to visit the AC Spark Plug plant 479 00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:44,394 where he had worked for over 30 years. 480 00:26:44,436 --> 00:26:48,099 - So you worked actually right here. - You'd have to go-- 481 00:26:48,139 --> 00:26:51,939 they had a ramp that took you up over that, just beyond that... 482 00:26:51,977 --> 00:26:53,501 - Just beyond that space there? - Yeah. 483 00:26:53,545 --> 00:26:55,536 - And then the factory was all over there? - Yeah. 484 00:26:55,580 --> 00:26:57,980 Moore: The whole complex is, like, two miles long. 485 00:26:58,016 --> 00:27:00,348 l remember Mom bringing us kids in to pick you up. 486 00:27:00,385 --> 00:27:02,285 - 2:30 every day. - Yeah, uh-huh. 487 00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:05,346 You'd walk out of there, right over in there in fact. 488 00:27:05,390 --> 00:27:07,358 And we'd be waiting in the car for you 489 00:27:07,392 --> 00:27:09,883 and we'd see you come down the ramp. 490 00:27:09,928 --> 00:27:13,523 We got real excited every time we saw you. 491 00:27:13,565 --> 00:27:16,056 l was there 33 1/2 years. 492 00:27:16,101 --> 00:27:18,160 - 33 1/2 years? - Uh-huh. 493 00:27:18,203 --> 00:27:21,001 Moore: What's your best memory here, being here, working here? 494 00:27:21,039 --> 00:27:24,202 My best memory? l think the people. 495 00:27:24,242 --> 00:27:26,233 They were a really good bunch. 496 00:27:26,277 --> 00:27:29,144 - You liked the crowd you worked with? - Yeah. 497 00:27:29,180 --> 00:27:32,445 Frank Moore: A good place to work. l enjoyed it. 498 00:27:32,484 --> 00:27:35,351 But l'm sorry to see it go. 499 00:27:42,961 --> 00:27:45,691 Moore: Shortly before Christmas 2008, 500 00:27:45,730 --> 00:27:48,858 Republic Windows & Doors in Chicago, lllinois, 501 00:27:48,900 --> 00:27:52,131 abruptly fired its entire unionized workforce 502 00:27:52,170 --> 00:27:55,230 of over 250 people. 503 00:27:55,273 --> 00:27:58,731 They were given only three days' notice. 504 00:27:58,777 --> 00:28:00,836 Bank of America would no longer provide 505 00:28:00,879 --> 00:28:03,074 a line of credit to the company, 506 00:28:03,114 --> 00:28:07,210 and so the workers were not paid the money owed to them. 507 00:28:07,252 --> 00:28:10,050 Man #1 : My life revolves around this job. 508 00:28:10,088 --> 00:28:14,252 l live according to my obligation to my job, you know? 509 00:28:14,292 --> 00:28:18,353 And it's not just me, it's all of the workers here. 510 00:28:18,396 --> 00:28:21,194 We go above and beyond 511 00:28:21,232 --> 00:28:23,826 the call of duty for Republic. 512 00:28:23,868 --> 00:28:26,598 And at the end, 513 00:28:26,638 --> 00:28:29,471 Republic cares nothing for us. 514 00:28:31,309 --> 00:28:34,278 Man #2: We found out that they're gonna shut the plant on Tuesday. 515 00:28:34,312 --> 00:28:37,543 We don't deserve what they're doing to us, you know? 516 00:28:37,582 --> 00:28:40,881 lt really hurts because, like l said, 517 00:28:40,919 --> 00:28:42,887 this is my second family. 518 00:28:42,921 --> 00:28:45,515 So it was-- it really hurts. lt really hurts. 519 00:28:45,557 --> 00:28:49,459 l'm gonna miss all of them, you know? 520 00:28:49,494 --> 00:28:52,463 l'm gonna miss them and l don't think 521 00:28:52,497 --> 00:28:54,829 anybody on this planet 522 00:28:54,866 --> 00:28:58,097 deserves what they've done to us. 523 00:29:05,577 --> 00:29:07,636 Moore: Scenes like this were being repeated 524 00:29:07,679 --> 00:29:11,740 all over the country, and no one seemed to mind. 525 00:29:11,783 --> 00:29:14,183 "" Zambezi, Zambezi "" 526 00:29:14,219 --> 00:29:17,347 - "" Zambezi, Zam. "" - Woman: Whoo! 527 00:29:17,388 --> 00:29:21,256 Moore: The president was enjoying his final year in office. 528 00:29:21,292 --> 00:29:23,590 But as the economy started to fall apart, 529 00:29:23,628 --> 00:29:27,758 he decided it was time to roll out the C word. 530 00:29:27,799 --> 00:29:30,825 Capitalism is the best system ever devised. 531 00:29:30,869 --> 00:29:32,268 Moore: Huh. Really? 532 00:29:32,303 --> 00:29:35,568 Voices from the left and right are equating the free enterprise system 533 00:29:35,607 --> 00:29:39,270 with greed and exploitation and failure. 534 00:29:39,310 --> 00:29:41,301 Moore: Hmm, greed, 535 00:29:41,346 --> 00:29:44,509 exploitation, failure? 536 00:29:44,549 --> 00:29:46,073 Go on, l'm listening. 537 00:29:46,117 --> 00:29:50,986 Capitalism offers people the freedom to choose 538 00:29:51,022 --> 00:29:53,582 where they work and what they do... 539 00:29:53,625 --> 00:29:56,321 Reporter: Pat Andrews has been looking for work. 540 00:29:56,361 --> 00:30:00,229 Every morning she scans the classifieds in vain. 541 00:30:00,265 --> 00:30:02,028 There isn't anything in here. 542 00:30:02,066 --> 00:30:05,001 l'm not gonna be a gentleman's club hired dancer either. 543 00:30:06,337 --> 00:30:09,829 ...the opportunity to buy or sell products they want. 544 00:30:09,874 --> 00:30:11,808 Reporter: Tom Rendon has avoided layoffs 545 00:30:11,843 --> 00:30:14,505 at his sign company in Stockton, California, 546 00:30:14,546 --> 00:30:16,446 all because this one word now makes up 547 00:30:16,481 --> 00:30:18,540 for half his business. 548 00:30:18,583 --> 00:30:22,144 lf you seek social justice and human dignity, 549 00:30:22,187 --> 00:30:26,021 the free market system is the way to go. 550 00:30:26,057 --> 00:30:27,752 ( applause ) 551 00:30:28,893 --> 00:30:32,021 Moore: And for those seeking justice in Pennsylvania, 552 00:30:32,063 --> 00:30:35,965 free enterprise was definitely the way to go. 553 00:30:39,470 --> 00:30:41,131 Wilkes-Barre, Pennsylvania, 554 00:30:41,172 --> 00:30:43,333 has one of the highest rates in the state 555 00:30:43,374 --> 00:30:47,003 of young people locked up in the juvenile home. 556 00:30:47,045 --> 00:30:49,377 Perhaps it's because the good people here 557 00:30:49,414 --> 00:30:51,780 employ the practices of capitalism 558 00:30:51,816 --> 00:30:55,047 in dealing with their wayward youth. 559 00:30:55,086 --> 00:30:57,987 The county hired a private profit-making corporation 560 00:30:58,022 --> 00:31:02,152 with a sweet-sounding name, PA Child Care. 561 00:31:03,394 --> 00:31:06,329 lt was owned and run by two businessmen, 562 00:31:06,364 --> 00:31:11,028 one of whom was Robert Powell, an attorney and entrepreneur. 563 00:31:11,069 --> 00:31:13,003 His good friend Judge Conahan 564 00:31:13,037 --> 00:31:15,403 closed down the public juvenile home 565 00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:17,374 and then got PA Child Care to build 566 00:31:17,408 --> 00:31:20,571 an $8 million privately-owned facility 567 00:31:20,612 --> 00:31:22,512 and charge it back to the county 568 00:31:22,547 --> 00:31:25,243 for a mere $58 million lease. 569 00:31:27,185 --> 00:31:30,814 Let's meet some of Wilkes-Barre's juvenile delinquents. 570 00:31:30,855 --> 00:31:33,153 Magee smoked pot at a high school party. 571 00:31:33,191 --> 00:31:36,422 l was very rebellious when l was at this age. 572 00:31:36,461 --> 00:31:39,259 Moore: Matt, he got into an argument at the dinner table. 573 00:31:39,297 --> 00:31:41,959 l threw a piece of meat, as in steak, 574 00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:44,468 cooked dinner, at my mother's boyfriend. 575 00:31:44,502 --> 00:31:46,868 Moore: Jamie got in a fight at a shopping mall 576 00:31:46,905 --> 00:31:48,167 with her best friend. 577 00:31:48,206 --> 00:31:51,642 l just figured, you know, we just weren't gonna be friends anymore. 578 00:31:51,676 --> 00:31:54,201 Moore: And Hillary made a MySpace page 579 00:31:54,245 --> 00:31:56,406 making fun of her assistant principal 580 00:31:56,447 --> 00:31:58,938 for being strict and having no sense of humor. 581 00:31:58,983 --> 00:32:02,419 And it said some pretty silly, like, 14-year-old-girl stuff. 582 00:32:02,453 --> 00:32:06,184 Moore: Her assistant principal called the police. 583 00:32:06,224 --> 00:32:10,524 They all appeared before kindly Judge Mark Ciavarella. 584 00:32:10,561 --> 00:32:13,291 These kids were about to get their first lesson 585 00:32:13,331 --> 00:32:15,299 in American capitalism: 586 00:32:15,333 --> 00:32:20,134 time is money, lots of money. 587 00:32:20,171 --> 00:32:23,470 l went in front of the court, in front of Mr. Ciavarella, 588 00:32:23,508 --> 00:32:25,305 and l wasn't even in front of him for four minutes. 589 00:32:25,343 --> 00:32:27,436 l was only in front of him for, like, two minutes. 590 00:32:27,478 --> 00:32:31,107 Hillary: The first thing that Judge Ciavarella said to me was, 591 00:32:31,149 --> 00:32:34,016 ''What makes you think you can do this kind of crap?'' 592 00:32:34,052 --> 00:32:36,486 l'm sure he knew in his mind when l walked in 593 00:32:36,521 --> 00:32:38,284 that he was locking this kid up no matter what. 594 00:32:38,323 --> 00:32:39,620 He didn't even look at me. 595 00:32:39,657 --> 00:32:42,626 Once l entered the courtroom, l didn't have any chance. 596 00:32:42,660 --> 00:32:44,924 There was about six kids who went in front of me. 597 00:32:44,963 --> 00:32:46,988 Every single kid who went in front of Ciavarella, 598 00:32:47,031 --> 00:32:50,398 for all different reasons-- some minor, some serious-- 599 00:32:50,435 --> 00:32:52,130 got sent away. 600 00:32:52,170 --> 00:32:56,072 Moore: Although Wilkes-Barre is located in the United States of America, 601 00:32:56,107 --> 00:33:00,237 here capitalism trumped democracy. 602 00:33:00,278 --> 00:33:03,509 Robert Powell, one of the owners of PA Child Care, 603 00:33:03,548 --> 00:33:07,951 cut a business deal with Judge Conahan and Judge Ciavarella. 604 00:33:07,986 --> 00:33:11,422 Judge Ciavarella then stepped up his conviction rates. 605 00:33:11,456 --> 00:33:13,185 Many of these kids were funneled 606 00:33:13,224 --> 00:33:17,991 into PA Child Care's for-profit juvenile facility. 607 00:33:18,029 --> 00:33:19,428 And for their troubles, 608 00:33:19,464 --> 00:33:23,662 the judges received over $2.6 million 609 00:33:23,701 --> 00:33:27,660 while the owners of PA Child Care received tens of millions 610 00:33:27,705 --> 00:33:30,299 of taxpayer dollars from the county. 611 00:33:30,341 --> 00:33:33,469 And where did Powell go to enjoy all that money? 612 00:33:33,511 --> 00:33:35,706 On his private plane 613 00:33:35,747 --> 00:33:38,807 and his yacht, the ''Reel Justice.'' 614 00:33:40,485 --> 00:33:45,388 6,500 children were unjustly convicted. 615 00:33:45,423 --> 00:33:48,824 lt was good business while it lasted. 616 00:33:49,961 --> 00:33:52,828 Reporter #1 : Two Luzerne County judges in big trouble with the law. 617 00:33:52,864 --> 00:33:53,853 They're going to jail. 618 00:33:53,898 --> 00:33:55,331 Reporter #2: Some kids were locked up 619 00:33:55,366 --> 00:33:59,632 even when probation officers objected to detention. 620 00:33:59,670 --> 00:34:02,662 ln there you lose track of time and you lose track of the date. 621 00:34:02,707 --> 00:34:03,935 l was barely keeping track. 622 00:34:03,975 --> 00:34:07,103 lt was supposed to be, like-- l believe it was, like, two months. 623 00:34:07,145 --> 00:34:09,545 And it went from two months to nine months. 624 00:34:09,580 --> 00:34:12,276 He said originally three to six months, 625 00:34:12,316 --> 00:34:16,309 but somehow l ended up being there 11 1/2 months 626 00:34:16,354 --> 00:34:19,187 and l never went back in front of the judge at all 627 00:34:19,223 --> 00:34:20,850 for him to give me extensions. 628 00:34:20,892 --> 00:34:22,689 Moore: Not only did PA Child Care 629 00:34:22,727 --> 00:34:25,560 pay off the judges to fill their cells, 630 00:34:25,596 --> 00:34:28,258 but their employees were the ones who got to decide 631 00:34:28,299 --> 00:34:31,700 when a child had enough rehabilitation. 632 00:34:31,736 --> 00:34:35,069 But that makes sense, because any time a governmental unit 633 00:34:35,106 --> 00:34:37,666 turns over to a profit-making corporation 634 00:34:37,708 --> 00:34:40,108 the duties it should be performing, 635 00:34:40,144 --> 00:34:42,169 what do you expect to happen? 636 00:34:42,213 --> 00:34:44,807 Matt: lt makes me feel like an item that they just used 637 00:34:44,849 --> 00:34:47,249 to just get money and then tossed me aside. 638 00:34:47,285 --> 00:34:51,745 l'm just trying to work on my flying 639 00:34:51,789 --> 00:34:53,984 and just trying to prepare for my future 640 00:34:54,025 --> 00:34:57,256 so l can put this all behind me, finally be done with all this. 641 00:34:57,295 --> 00:34:59,763 During the whole trial l wasn't in control at all, 642 00:34:59,797 --> 00:35:02,231 but with flying it's only me. 643 00:35:02,266 --> 00:35:04,734 lt's just that l just get to do everything by myself. 644 00:35:04,769 --> 00:35:06,794 l'm the only one on the control. 645 00:35:06,838 --> 00:35:08,669 Moore: Matt loves to fly 646 00:35:08,706 --> 00:35:11,971 and hopes to become a pilot someday. 647 00:35:12,009 --> 00:35:14,637 lf he does, he'll get his second lesson 648 00:35:14,679 --> 00:35:17,273 in capitalism: 649 00:35:17,315 --> 00:35:20,341 that in America, sometimes you're better off 650 00:35:20,384 --> 00:35:22,820 working at Mickey D's. 651 00:35:22,820 --> 00:35:25,380 - ( applause, cheering ) - Remember Sully? 652 00:35:25,423 --> 00:35:26,754 Captain Sullenberger, 653 00:35:26,791 --> 00:35:29,817 who safely landed an airbus in the Hudson River 654 00:35:29,861 --> 00:35:32,887 - saving the lives of 150 passengers? - ( patriotic music playing ) 655 00:35:32,930 --> 00:35:35,797 - Man: A true American hero. - ( applause ) 656 00:35:38,936 --> 00:35:41,837 Moore: He met the mayor. He went to the State of the Union. 657 00:35:41,873 --> 00:35:44,569 Heck, he even went to the Super Bowl. 658 00:35:44,609 --> 00:35:46,839 And then he went to Congress. 659 00:35:46,878 --> 00:35:49,938 Sullenberger: Flying has been my lifelong passion. 660 00:35:49,981 --> 00:35:52,142 But while l love my profession, 661 00:35:52,183 --> 00:35:54,879 l do not like what has happened to it. 662 00:35:54,919 --> 00:35:57,012 - ( music halts ) - lt is my personal experience 663 00:35:57,054 --> 00:36:00,251 that my decision to remain in the profession l love 664 00:36:00,291 --> 00:36:04,921 has come at a great financial cost to me and to my family. 665 00:36:04,962 --> 00:36:07,226 My pay has been cut 40% . 666 00:36:07,265 --> 00:36:10,928 My pension, like most airline pensions, has been terminated. 667 00:36:10,968 --> 00:36:14,495 So please do not think l exaggerate when l say that l do not know 668 00:36:14,539 --> 00:36:17,838 a single professional airline pilot who wants his or her children 669 00:36:17,875 --> 00:36:19,467 to follow in their footsteps. 670 00:36:19,510 --> 00:36:22,240 Moore: Whoa, you cleared the room with that one, Sully. 671 00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:24,578 l don't think the congressmen wanted to hear that stuff. 672 00:36:24,615 --> 00:36:27,550 - They like you as a hero. - The current experience... 673 00:36:27,585 --> 00:36:30,076 ( patriotic music over dialogue ) 674 00:36:42,133 --> 00:36:44,192 Moore: What was your starting pay as a pilot? 675 00:36:44,235 --> 00:36:46,533 l made $19,000 the first year. 676 00:36:46,571 --> 00:36:50,029 l was bumped up to about 22,000 or 23,000 the second year. 677 00:36:50,074 --> 00:36:52,702 Last year, gross pay 678 00:36:52,743 --> 00:36:55,177 l made $17,600. 679 00:36:55,213 --> 00:36:57,807 There's a joke in the airline when we get our wings pinned on us 680 00:36:57,848 --> 00:37:01,306 as new-hire airline pilots that the company just kinda says, 681 00:37:01,352 --> 00:37:04,116 ''Hey, don't apply for food stamps in your uniform.'' 682 00:37:04,155 --> 00:37:07,022 Moore: l don't know about you, but l want the pilot 683 00:37:07,058 --> 00:37:10,858 who's got me 30,000 feet up in the air to be paid really well 684 00:37:10,895 --> 00:37:13,955 and not sitting up in the cockpit digging through the pilot's seat 685 00:37:13,998 --> 00:37:15,989 looking for loose change. 686 00:37:16,033 --> 00:37:18,001 There was a period of about four months 687 00:37:18,035 --> 00:37:20,799 where l was on food stamps. 688 00:37:20,838 --> 00:37:22,328 - You were on food stamps? - Yes. 689 00:37:22,373 --> 00:37:25,137 - And you were still flying the plane? - Yes. 690 00:37:25,176 --> 00:37:27,542 With my-- with my food stamp card. 691 00:37:27,578 --> 00:37:30,342 The lady l talked to in the food stamp office, 692 00:37:30,381 --> 00:37:33,316 when l told her l was a pilot, she didn't bat an eye, 693 00:37:33,351 --> 00:37:35,683 but she didn't-- l knew she didn't believe me. 694 00:37:35,720 --> 00:37:38,348 Moore: How have you gotten by? How have you been able to afford things? 695 00:37:38,389 --> 00:37:40,983 Relying on credit cards to buy the groceries at times 696 00:37:41,025 --> 00:37:42,754 - when l wasn't on food stamps. - Oh, really? 697 00:37:42,793 --> 00:37:45,091 l have about $10,000 in credit card debt 698 00:37:45,129 --> 00:37:47,120 just on the necessities, 699 00:37:47,164 --> 00:37:49,724 not on the big-screen TV and the stereo. 700 00:37:49,767 --> 00:37:52,964 Moore: You're using it to buy your groceries and get by. 701 00:37:53,004 --> 00:37:54,938 - Yes. - Do you have any student loan debt? 702 00:37:54,972 --> 00:37:56,667 - Yes. - How much? 703 00:37:56,707 --> 00:37:58,265 Mine is about 80,000. 704 00:37:58,309 --> 00:38:01,710 - l took out $100,000. - Moore: Student loans? 705 00:38:01,746 --> 00:38:04,613 And by the time l pay it back, at this rate, 706 00:38:04,649 --> 00:38:07,015 it'll probably cost me well over a half a million with interest 707 00:38:07,051 --> 00:38:09,611 and fees and penalties. 708 00:38:09,654 --> 00:38:11,884 lt's something that l don't-- l don't like to spend a lot of time 709 00:38:11,922 --> 00:38:13,617 thinking about because it's abysmal. 710 00:38:13,658 --> 00:38:16,126 lt's one way that l get down really quickly 711 00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:17,821 about my chosen career field 712 00:38:17,862 --> 00:38:20,296 is to think about how much l owe and how little l make. 713 00:38:20,331 --> 00:38:23,232 Moore: Have you had to work a second job to make ends meet? 714 00:38:23,267 --> 00:38:25,633 l walk dogs on the side, 715 00:38:25,670 --> 00:38:28,867 l distribute MonaVie Juice. 716 00:38:28,906 --> 00:38:32,171 l have known pilots to donate plasma 717 00:38:32,209 --> 00:38:34,040 for extra cash. 718 00:38:34,078 --> 00:38:36,945 - You mean they give blood? - They-- well-- 719 00:38:36,981 --> 00:38:39,609 So they can make extra money even though they're flying an airplane? 720 00:38:39,650 --> 00:38:41,641 Yeah. They donate their plasma. 721 00:38:41,686 --> 00:38:45,952 So they get the blood back, but you can get paid for plasma. 722 00:38:45,990 --> 00:38:47,287 - ( chuckles ) - Oh, l see. 723 00:38:47,325 --> 00:38:49,122 They suck the blood out of you, take the plasma... 724 00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:50,627 - Give you the blood back. - ...give you the-- 725 00:38:50,661 --> 00:38:52,526 Oh, well then, not such a bad deal. 726 00:38:52,563 --> 00:38:56,055 The only reason people stay flying is because they love it. 727 00:38:56,100 --> 00:38:57,965 And managements take advantage of that. 728 00:38:58,002 --> 00:39:01,335 The airlines have managed to farm out 729 00:39:01,372 --> 00:39:05,775 a lot of the flying to commuters 730 00:39:05,810 --> 00:39:09,007 in an effort to basically bust the unions. 731 00:39:09,046 --> 00:39:11,139 You can't compete 732 00:39:11,182 --> 00:39:15,414 to a lower and lower level every year 733 00:39:15,453 --> 00:39:17,853 without skimping on safety somehow. 734 00:39:20,157 --> 00:39:24,958 Moore: At approximately 10:15 PM on February 1 2, 2009, 735 00:39:24,995 --> 00:39:27,725 Continental connection flight 3407 736 00:39:27,765 --> 00:39:30,359 began its descent to the airport in Buffalo. 737 00:39:30,401 --> 00:39:32,096 ( sirens wailing ) 738 00:39:32,136 --> 00:39:34,001 Man: Stand by, there's some ground communication, 739 00:39:34,038 --> 00:39:35,938 either state police or sheriff's department. 740 00:39:35,973 --> 00:39:37,668 We need to find out if anything is on the ground. 741 00:39:37,708 --> 00:39:40,108 This aircraft was five miles out, and all of a sudden 742 00:39:40,144 --> 00:39:41,975 we have no response to that aircraft. 743 00:39:42,012 --> 00:39:45,004 All l could tell you is there was an aircraft over the marker 744 00:39:45,049 --> 00:39:48,075 and we're not talking to them now. 745 00:39:48,119 --> 00:39:50,280 Moore: No one survived the crash 746 00:39:50,321 --> 00:39:53,256 and 50 people lost their lives. 747 00:39:54,792 --> 00:39:58,057 The media focused on the actions of the pilots. 748 00:39:58,095 --> 00:40:01,155 Reporter: Captain Marvin Renslow and First Officer Shaw 749 00:40:01,198 --> 00:40:03,428 were chatting about their careers. 750 00:40:03,467 --> 00:40:05,833 Moore: ''Careers'' is a euphemism 751 00:40:05,870 --> 00:40:08,270 for what the pilots were really talking about: 752 00:40:08,305 --> 00:40:12,435 how little they were paid and how overworked they were. 753 00:40:12,476 --> 00:40:14,569 There would be no discussion in the media 754 00:40:14,612 --> 00:40:16,876 about why we have an economic system 755 00:40:16,914 --> 00:40:20,543 that allows a pilot to be paid less than a manager at Taco Bell. 756 00:40:20,584 --> 00:40:21,983 Reporter: First Officer Shaw 757 00:40:22,019 --> 00:40:25,648 made between $16,000 and $20,000 a year 758 00:40:25,689 --> 00:40:29,250 and at one point worked a second job. 759 00:40:29,293 --> 00:40:31,727 Moore: Her second job had been waitressing 760 00:40:31,762 --> 00:40:33,753 at a coffee shop. 761 00:40:35,065 --> 00:40:38,592 How are these companies able to get away with this? 762 00:40:38,636 --> 00:40:41,332 ( laughs ) l guess that's the point of capitalism. 763 00:40:41,372 --> 00:40:44,136 lt allows you to get away with anything, 764 00:40:44,175 --> 00:40:47,545 like making a profit off the death of an employee. 765 00:40:49,113 --> 00:40:51,479 Sweetie, l can open it. Let's try it with this. 766 00:40:51,515 --> 00:40:53,574 Moore: This is lrma Johnson. 767 00:40:53,617 --> 00:40:56,586 lrma's husband Dan worked in middle management 768 00:40:56,620 --> 00:40:58,781 at Amegy Bank in Houston, Texas. 769 00:40:58,823 --> 00:41:00,882 - Wanna try to spread it? - No. 770 00:41:00,925 --> 00:41:03,450 Moore: Dan recently died of cancer, 771 00:41:03,494 --> 00:41:07,726 leaving behind lrma and their two sons. 772 00:41:07,765 --> 00:41:10,325 But unbeknownst to lrma, Amegy had taken out 773 00:41:10,367 --> 00:41:14,326 a secret life insurance policy on Dan's life. 774 00:41:14,371 --> 00:41:18,603 The bank generously named itself as the beneficiary 775 00:41:18,642 --> 00:41:21,133 in the event of Dan's death. 776 00:41:21,178 --> 00:41:24,306 The insurance company then accidentally informed lrma 777 00:41:24,348 --> 00:41:28,478 that Amegy Bank had received a check for $1 1/2 million 778 00:41:28,519 --> 00:41:31,454 just weeks after Dan died. 779 00:41:31,489 --> 00:41:33,286 Thank you for helping. 780 00:41:33,324 --> 00:41:34,382 Johnson: They never told me. 781 00:41:34,425 --> 00:41:37,952 l wanted to find out, well, why did they purchase a policy for him? 782 00:41:37,995 --> 00:41:39,929 - Moore: You didn't know about it? - No. 783 00:41:39,964 --> 00:41:43,627 And they named themselves as the beneficiary. 784 00:41:43,667 --> 00:41:44,656 Yeah. 785 00:41:44,702 --> 00:41:46,863 Moore: So your husband's death 786 00:41:46,904 --> 00:41:49,873 made them $1.5 million richer? 787 00:41:49,907 --> 00:41:52,171 Mm-hmm. 788 00:41:52,209 --> 00:41:55,736 l know it's not right for them to try to profit 789 00:41:55,779 --> 00:41:58,213 from my husband's death. 790 00:41:58,249 --> 00:42:00,046 When l first realized what was happening, 791 00:42:00,084 --> 00:42:04,145 l was in disbelief. 792 00:42:04,188 --> 00:42:06,918 - lt's hurtful. - l'm so sorry. 793 00:42:08,392 --> 00:42:09,825 Um... 794 00:42:12,329 --> 00:42:15,924 it's hurtful and l wanted answers. 795 00:42:15,966 --> 00:42:18,628 Moore: lrma contacted Michael D. Myers, 796 00:42:18,669 --> 00:42:21,160 a local attorney who had already been looking into 797 00:42:21,205 --> 00:42:24,504 these kind of corporate insurance policies on their employees. 798 00:42:25,910 --> 00:42:28,504 With the normal use of life insurance, where you're guarding against 799 00:42:28,546 --> 00:42:33,108 the loss of a loved one or a breadwinner of the family, 800 00:42:33,150 --> 00:42:37,553 you don't want that person to die. 801 00:42:37,588 --> 00:42:39,749 With these policies, the companies that buy these 802 00:42:39,790 --> 00:42:41,655 want the employees to die 803 00:42:41,692 --> 00:42:44,388 in accordance with the policy projections. 804 00:42:44,428 --> 00:42:48,330 You are more valuable dead to a company than alive. 805 00:42:49,633 --> 00:42:53,125 American Greetings, RR Donnelly & Sons, and Proctor & Gamble 806 00:42:53,170 --> 00:42:55,934 are all having problems with mortality. 807 00:42:55,973 --> 00:42:58,464 These four combined programs are running at 50% 808 00:42:58,509 --> 00:42:59,999 of expected mortality. 809 00:43:00,044 --> 00:43:03,502 These clients are acutely aware of this problem. 810 00:43:03,547 --> 00:43:06,243 Basically here the broker is complaining 811 00:43:06,283 --> 00:43:08,683 that not enough employees are dying. 812 00:43:08,719 --> 00:43:12,416 And therefore the investment returns are not matching the projections. 813 00:43:12,456 --> 00:43:14,890 The broker writes that NCC is running 814 00:43:14,925 --> 00:43:17,621 at 78% of expected mortality. 815 00:43:17,661 --> 00:43:21,529 Okay, so 78% of the people we expected to die died. 816 00:43:21,565 --> 00:43:24,796 But the problem with that is three of them were suicides. 817 00:43:24,835 --> 00:43:26,962 And you can't count on that every year. 818 00:43:27,004 --> 00:43:29,029 Moore: Can you think of any other situation 819 00:43:29,073 --> 00:43:33,407 were you'd actually want people to die? 820 00:43:33,444 --> 00:43:37,642 Combatants in war, l guess. 821 00:43:37,681 --> 00:43:41,481 Wow, when do you want people to die? 822 00:43:41,518 --> 00:43:43,145 l-l don't know. 823 00:43:43,187 --> 00:43:46,987 War situations, terrorism situations. 824 00:43:48,926 --> 00:43:51,622 Drug trials, perhaps. l don't know. 825 00:43:51,662 --> 00:43:54,256 l don't know. That's an odd question. 826 00:43:54,298 --> 00:43:57,529 Moore: l didn't understand how any of this could be legal. 827 00:43:57,568 --> 00:44:00,401 After all, there's a reason that there's a law 828 00:44:00,437 --> 00:44:04,840 prohibiting me from taking out a fire insurance policy on your house 829 00:44:04,875 --> 00:44:09,107 because l have a vested interest in your house burning down. 830 00:44:09,146 --> 00:44:12,274 Since Attorney Myers had been researching this for years, 831 00:44:12,316 --> 00:44:14,375 l asked him which companies were profiting 832 00:44:14,418 --> 00:44:16,215 from these insurance policies. 833 00:44:16,253 --> 00:44:17,686 l don't know, you don't know, 834 00:44:17,721 --> 00:44:20,349 because there's no place you can go and find out 835 00:44:20,391 --> 00:44:24,020 whether your company is a purchaser 836 00:44:24,061 --> 00:44:26,359 - of these types of products. - Which ones do you know? 837 00:44:26,397 --> 00:44:28,092 The ones that we know that have slipped out are 838 00:44:28,132 --> 00:44:30,157 Bank of America, Citibank, 839 00:44:30,200 --> 00:44:33,499 Wal-Mart, Winn-Dixie, Proctor & Gamble, 840 00:44:33,537 --> 00:44:35,664 McDonnell Douglas, Hershey, 841 00:44:35,706 --> 00:44:38,675 Nestl� , AT&T, Southwestern Bell, 842 00:44:38,709 --> 00:44:40,768 Ameritech, American Express-- 843 00:44:40,811 --> 00:44:42,870 - This is blue chip you're talking about. - Yeah. 844 00:44:42,913 --> 00:44:46,110 These aren't fly-by-night companies trying to do a scam here 845 00:44:46,150 --> 00:44:48,311 so they can collect a check if one of their employees dies. 846 00:44:48,352 --> 00:44:51,651 There are probably several million Americans 847 00:44:51,689 --> 00:44:55,523 who are covered by one of these policies or have been at some point. 848 00:44:55,559 --> 00:44:56,821 There's a lot of it out there. 849 00:44:56,860 --> 00:44:59,021 Moore: This is Paul Smith. 850 00:44:59,063 --> 00:45:02,624 He used to be what is known as a loyal employee. 851 00:45:02,666 --> 00:45:06,898 Smith: l worked for Wal-Mart for 18 years and l gave them 110% . 852 00:45:06,937 --> 00:45:08,700 l mean, l loved that company. 853 00:45:08,739 --> 00:45:10,229 And as it turned out, Wal-Mart took out 854 00:45:10,274 --> 00:45:13,334 over 350,000 life insurance policies 855 00:45:13,377 --> 00:45:15,504 on rank and file associates. 856 00:45:15,546 --> 00:45:16,740 These weren't executives. 857 00:45:16,780 --> 00:45:20,216 These were people like my wife, a cake decorator for 18 months. 858 00:45:20,250 --> 00:45:23,845 That's the type of people they were taking insurance policies out on. 859 00:45:23,887 --> 00:45:27,880 Moore: Paul's wife LaDonna left her job at the Wal-Mart bakery 860 00:45:27,925 --> 00:45:30,723 so she could be a stay-at-home mom for her two kids. 861 00:45:30,761 --> 00:45:33,924 Smith: She had asthma real real bad. 862 00:45:33,964 --> 00:45:35,898 She went into the emergency room one night 863 00:45:35,933 --> 00:45:37,901 and a nurse comes out and says, ''Are you Mr. Smith?'' 864 00:45:37,935 --> 00:45:39,425 And l said, ''Yes.'' 865 00:45:39,470 --> 00:45:43,531 And she said, ''We don't think your wife's gonna make it.'' 866 00:45:43,574 --> 00:45:45,542 Moore: LaDonna slipped into a coma 867 00:45:45,576 --> 00:45:47,908 from which she would never awaken. 868 00:45:47,945 --> 00:45:50,106 Her family rushed to the hospital, 869 00:45:50,147 --> 00:45:52,581 even though there was nothing they could do to help. 870 00:45:52,616 --> 00:45:55,176 There was a wall here and LaDonna's in the room 871 00:45:55,219 --> 00:45:56,652 on the other side of the wall. 872 00:45:56,687 --> 00:45:58,951 And Jessica kept saying, ''Where is she?'' 873 00:45:58,989 --> 00:46:01,617 And l said, ''She's right on the other side of that wall.'' 874 00:46:01,658 --> 00:46:05,253 And Jessica said, ''Can we cut a hole in the wall 875 00:46:05,295 --> 00:46:07,786 so that we can see her?'' 876 00:46:07,831 --> 00:46:09,856 And that just sticks with me. 877 00:46:09,900 --> 00:46:11,731 Do you remember that? 878 00:46:13,837 --> 00:46:18,206 Smith: We had to stay in there with her, and so we'd write letters to her. 879 00:46:18,242 --> 00:46:22,702 ''My dear wife, l miss you more than any words can possibly say. 880 00:46:22,746 --> 00:46:24,304 You are my life. 881 00:46:24,348 --> 00:46:26,748 You always see beauty in the simplest things. 882 00:46:26,784 --> 00:46:31,221 l've always admired you for that. l wish l could have told you that more. 883 00:46:31,255 --> 00:46:33,519 l want you to come back to me soon. 884 00:46:33,557 --> 00:46:36,549 l still have a lot left to learn from you, baby doll. 885 00:46:36,593 --> 00:46:38,754 Your loving husband, Paul.'' 886 00:46:40,697 --> 00:46:43,131 You okay, Wesley? 887 00:46:44,535 --> 00:46:47,299 She was 26 years old. 888 00:46:47,337 --> 00:46:50,272 LaDonna: You're silly. You're silly. 889 00:46:50,307 --> 00:46:53,970 Myers: The younger a person is, the higher the benefit is 890 00:46:54,011 --> 00:46:56,809 because they're expected to live longer. 891 00:46:56,847 --> 00:46:59,042 Women are also expected to live longer than men. 892 00:46:59,082 --> 00:47:02,051 So the most valuable employee to the company 893 00:47:02,085 --> 00:47:04,986 if they're dead, is a young woman. 894 00:47:05,022 --> 00:47:06,614 Moore: LaDonna's death earned 895 00:47:06,657 --> 00:47:08,887 one of the richest corporations in the world 896 00:47:08,926 --> 00:47:11,486 an extra $81,000. 897 00:47:11,528 --> 00:47:14,861 l was faced with over $100,000 worth of medical bills 898 00:47:14,898 --> 00:47:18,231 and a $6,000 funeral 899 00:47:18,268 --> 00:47:21,726 and Wal-Mart didn't offer a penny to help with that. 900 00:47:21,772 --> 00:47:25,037 l did trust them. 901 00:47:25,075 --> 00:47:28,340 And never in a million years would l have ever thought 902 00:47:28,378 --> 00:47:31,313 that somewhere on a profit statement, 903 00:47:31,348 --> 00:47:34,340 ''Dead associate, $81,000.'' 904 00:47:34,384 --> 00:47:38,377 Wal-Mart doesn't care about you. 905 00:47:38,422 --> 00:47:40,253 When someone passes away, 906 00:47:40,290 --> 00:47:43,088 they shouldn't get something out of it. 907 00:47:53,770 --> 00:47:56,261 Myers: The common denominator to each form of coverage 908 00:47:56,306 --> 00:47:58,331 is that when the employee dies, 909 00:47:58,375 --> 00:48:01,606 the employer gets paid the insurance benefits. 910 00:48:01,645 --> 00:48:04,808 They're often referred to as ''dead peasant insurance.'' 911 00:48:04,848 --> 00:48:08,409 Moore: Dead peasants? Why'd they use such a creepy name? 912 00:48:08,452 --> 00:48:11,580 Myers: lt's very creepy. l don't know what it means either. 913 00:48:11,622 --> 00:48:12,782 Dead is clear. 914 00:48:12,823 --> 00:48:15,553 That's the worker who's passed away, so they're dead. 915 00:48:15,592 --> 00:48:18,026 Peasant, l don't know why they chose that word. 916 00:48:18,061 --> 00:48:20,086 l don't know if it has some historical significance 917 00:48:20,130 --> 00:48:23,122 or that's just the way they view the relative value 918 00:48:23,166 --> 00:48:24,895 of the employees' lives. 919 00:48:24,935 --> 00:48:26,527 Dead peasants? 920 00:48:26,570 --> 00:48:28,697 Yeah, amongst themselves that's what they call it. 921 00:48:30,274 --> 00:48:34,506 lt's insulting to refer to my husband like that. 922 00:48:34,544 --> 00:48:36,569 ( sniffles ) 923 00:48:41,652 --> 00:48:43,210 Moore: lt turned out that Amegy Bank 924 00:48:43,253 --> 00:48:45,949 had a second dead peasant policy on Dan, 925 00:48:45,989 --> 00:48:49,982 bringing their total take to nearly $5 million. 926 00:48:52,829 --> 00:48:53,830 - ls capitalism a sin? - Father Dick Preston: Yes. 927 00:48:53,830 --> 00:48:55,764 - ls capitalism a sin? - Father Dick Preston: Yes. 928 00:48:55,799 --> 00:48:58,359 Capitalism for me and for many of us 929 00:48:58,402 --> 00:49:01,735 at this present moment is an evil. 930 00:49:01,772 --> 00:49:05,538 lt's contrary to all that's good. lt's contrary to the common good. 931 00:49:05,575 --> 00:49:07,805 lt's contrary to compassion. 932 00:49:07,844 --> 00:49:10,813 lt's contrary to all of the major religions. 933 00:49:10,847 --> 00:49:14,908 Capitalism is precisely what the holy books, 934 00:49:14,952 --> 00:49:19,616 our holy books in particular, remind us is unjust 935 00:49:19,656 --> 00:49:22,625 and in some form and fashion, 936 00:49:22,659 --> 00:49:27,426 God will come down and eradicate somehow. 937 00:49:27,464 --> 00:49:29,796 Moore: This was Father Dick Preston, 938 00:49:29,833 --> 00:49:33,166 the priest from Flint who married my wife and me. 939 00:49:33,203 --> 00:49:35,364 Preston: Capitalism is wrong, 940 00:49:35,405 --> 00:49:39,136 and therefore has to be eliminated. 941 00:49:39,176 --> 00:49:41,167 Moore: Eliminated? 942 00:49:41,211 --> 00:49:43,202 That might be a little harsh, 943 00:49:43,246 --> 00:49:45,237 so l decided to go and talk to the priest 944 00:49:45,282 --> 00:49:47,580 that married my sister and brother-in-law. 945 00:49:47,617 --> 00:49:49,915 l'm sure he would have a more balanced approach 946 00:49:49,953 --> 00:49:52,080 when it came to capitalism. 947 00:49:52,122 --> 00:49:56,058 lt is immoral, it is obscene, it is outrageous. 948 00:49:56,093 --> 00:49:58,823 You know... 949 00:49:58,862 --> 00:50:01,194 it is really radical evil. 950 00:50:01,231 --> 00:50:03,529 lt's radically evil. 951 00:50:03,567 --> 00:50:07,094 Moore: Wow, does their boss know that they're talking like this? 952 00:50:07,137 --> 00:50:10,163 l thought it best to go and check this out with the bishop. 953 00:50:10,207 --> 00:50:12,471 Bishop Thomas Gumbleton: The system doesn't seem to be 954 00:50:12,509 --> 00:50:16,275 providing for the well being of all the people. 955 00:50:16,313 --> 00:50:19,214 And that's what makes it 956 00:50:19,249 --> 00:50:21,717 almost in its very nature 957 00:50:21,752 --> 00:50:25,688 something contrary to Jesus who said, 958 00:50:25,722 --> 00:50:29,249 ''Blessed are the poor, woe to the rich.'' 959 00:50:29,292 --> 00:50:32,489 That's right out of St. Luke's gospel. 960 00:50:32,529 --> 00:50:34,827 Moore: How have we put up with this system for so long? 961 00:50:34,865 --> 00:50:37,026 l mean, it's-- they talk about-- 962 00:50:37,067 --> 00:50:41,436 The system has built into it what we call propaganda. 963 00:50:41,471 --> 00:50:43,701 l'm in awe of propaganda-- 964 00:50:43,740 --> 00:50:46,709 the ability to convince people 965 00:50:46,743 --> 00:50:49,678 who are victimized by this very system 966 00:50:49,713 --> 00:50:52,682 to support the system and see it as good. 967 00:50:52,716 --> 00:50:56,117 We know that American capitalism is morally right 968 00:50:56,153 --> 00:50:58,314 because its chief elements-- 969 00:50:58,355 --> 00:51:01,415 private ownership, the profit motive 970 00:51:01,458 --> 00:51:04,484 and the competitive market-- are wholesome and good. 971 00:51:04,528 --> 00:51:07,827 They are compatible with God's laws and the teachings of the Bible. 972 00:51:08,832 --> 00:51:10,732 Moore: For as long as l can remember, 973 00:51:10,767 --> 00:51:14,362 l've been told that competition and profit are good things. 974 00:51:14,404 --> 00:51:16,497 ( distorted ) They are compatible with God's laws 975 00:51:16,540 --> 00:51:17,700 and the teachings of the Bible. 976 00:51:17,741 --> 00:51:21,074 Moore: And if increasing profits means locking up a few kids 977 00:51:21,111 --> 00:51:23,238 or cashing in on the death of an employee... 978 00:51:23,280 --> 00:51:26,113 ( distorted ) Compatible with God's laws and the teachings of the Bible. 979 00:51:26,149 --> 00:51:29,414 Moore: ...it is morally right to provide for the stockholders. 980 00:51:29,453 --> 00:51:31,785 ( distorted ) They are compatible with God's laws 981 00:51:31,822 --> 00:51:33,050 and the teachings of the Bible. 982 00:51:33,090 --> 00:51:36,321 Moore: Debt, eviction and exploitation. 983 00:51:36,359 --> 00:51:39,817 ( distorted ) God's laws and the teachings of the Bible. 984 00:51:39,863 --> 00:51:42,798 Moore: What were we really pledging our allegiance to? 985 00:51:42,833 --> 00:51:45,768 ( distorted ) The profit motive. 986 00:51:45,802 --> 00:51:48,498 Moore: And so all good Americans came to act as if they believed 987 00:51:48,538 --> 00:51:51,701 our capitalist economic system was compatible 988 00:51:51,741 --> 00:51:54,073 with the teachings of the Bible. 989 00:51:56,947 --> 00:51:59,939 ( organ music playing ) 990 00:52:02,352 --> 00:52:06,186 When l was a kid, l wanted to be a priest. 991 00:52:06,223 --> 00:52:08,020 lt wasn't because of the fancy getups 992 00:52:08,058 --> 00:52:10,322 or the Knights of Columbus escorts, 993 00:52:10,360 --> 00:52:13,659 or even the groovy nuns who were so good to me. 994 00:52:14,698 --> 00:52:18,225 lt was because of the priests who went on the march from Selma, 995 00:52:18,268 --> 00:52:20,828 or tried to stop the war, 996 00:52:20,871 --> 00:52:24,329 or devoted their lives to the poor. 997 00:52:24,374 --> 00:52:28,333 They told me quite clearly what Jesus said, 998 00:52:28,378 --> 00:52:32,747 that the first shall be last and the last shall be first; 999 00:52:32,782 --> 00:52:35,478 That the rich man will have a very hard time 1000 00:52:35,519 --> 00:52:37,578 getting into heaven; 1001 00:52:37,621 --> 00:52:41,455 That we will be judged by how we treat the least among us; 1002 00:52:41,491 --> 00:52:44,119 And that there are no people more important to God 1003 00:52:44,161 --> 00:52:46,686 than the poor. 1004 00:52:46,730 --> 00:52:49,255 Since that time, it seems that Jesus got hijacked 1005 00:52:49,299 --> 00:52:52,268 by a lot of people who believe that the son of God 1006 00:52:52,302 --> 00:52:56,671 was sent here to create heaven on earth for the well-to-do. 1007 00:52:56,706 --> 00:52:58,901 l must have missed that part of the Bible 1008 00:52:58,942 --> 00:53:02,241 where Jesus became a capitalist. 1009 00:53:06,550 --> 00:53:08,142 Man: Please tell me, master, 1010 00:53:08,185 --> 00:53:10,949 what must l do to have eternal life? 1011 00:53:10,987 --> 00:53:14,514 Go forth and maximize profits. 1012 00:53:16,359 --> 00:53:19,692 You say the Kingdom of Heaven is at hand, 1013 00:53:19,729 --> 00:53:21,253 but when exactly will it come? 1014 00:53:21,298 --> 00:53:25,496 When you deregulate the banking industry. 1015 00:53:25,535 --> 00:53:28,629 - ( voices overlapping ) - Help me. 1016 00:53:28,672 --> 00:53:31,197 l've been this way for 20 years. 1017 00:53:33,043 --> 00:53:36,535 l'm sorry, l cannot heal your pre-existing condition. 1018 00:53:38,548 --> 00:53:40,209 He'll have to pay out of pocket. 1019 00:53:43,620 --> 00:53:46,111 Moore: Somehow, l don't think Jesus came to earth 1020 00:53:46,156 --> 00:53:49,319 so he could ring the bell at the New York Stock Exchange. 1021 00:53:49,359 --> 00:53:51,350 And yet, from the very beginning, 1022 00:53:51,394 --> 00:53:54,227 the rich have claimed him for their own. 1023 00:53:54,264 --> 00:53:58,064 When l'm on Wall Street and l realize 1024 00:53:58,101 --> 00:54:02,231 that that's the very nerve center of American capitalism, 1025 00:54:02,272 --> 00:54:05,935 and l realize what capitalism has done 1026 00:54:05,976 --> 00:54:09,605 for working people in America, to me that's a holy place. 1027 00:54:09,646 --> 00:54:10,806 Let me add to it. 1028 00:54:10,847 --> 00:54:14,874 Over the whole duration of the lraq war and the terror war, 1029 00:54:14,918 --> 00:54:18,752 you look at the world's stock markets and you look at the world economy, 1030 00:54:18,788 --> 00:54:22,747 and despite these horrible pockets of unrest and killing and murdering 1031 00:54:22,792 --> 00:54:25,693 that we've been describing, it's never been better. 1032 00:54:25,729 --> 00:54:27,663 The global economy has never been better 1033 00:54:27,697 --> 00:54:30,325 and the global stock markets have never been better, Jimmy. 1034 00:54:30,367 --> 00:54:32,392 lt is either a God-given miracle 1035 00:54:32,435 --> 00:54:34,403 or it has something to do with the victories 1036 00:54:34,437 --> 00:54:36,803 of the spreading world of capitalism or both. 1037 00:54:36,840 --> 00:54:38,774 Moore: They think Wall Street's a holy place. 1038 00:54:38,808 --> 00:54:41,743 What do you think Jesus would think of capitalism? 1039 00:54:41,778 --> 00:54:46,147 l think he would simply refuse to-- 1040 00:54:46,182 --> 00:54:49,419 to be part of it. 1041 00:54:50,587 --> 00:54:53,454 Moore: Jesus would refuse to be part of it, 1042 00:54:53,490 --> 00:54:55,458 but he probably had a special place up there 1043 00:54:55,492 --> 00:54:58,427 for whoever leaked a secret Citibank memo 1044 00:54:58,461 --> 00:55:01,828 about their plan to rule the world. 1045 00:55:01,865 --> 00:55:03,856 Back in 2005 and 2006, 1046 00:55:03,900 --> 00:55:06,232 Citigroup wrote three confidential memos 1047 00:55:06,269 --> 00:55:10,729 to their wealthiest investors about how things were going. 1048 00:55:10,774 --> 00:55:13,174 They reached the conclusion that the United States 1049 00:55:13,209 --> 00:55:15,439 was no longer really a democracy, 1050 00:55:15,478 --> 00:55:18,242 but had become a plutonomy-- 1051 00:55:18,281 --> 00:55:21,375 a society controlled exclusively by and for the benefit 1052 00:55:21,418 --> 00:55:24,512 of the top 1 % of the population 1053 00:55:24,554 --> 00:55:26,647 who now had more financial wealth 1054 00:55:26,690 --> 00:55:30,319 than the bottom 95% combined. 1055 00:55:30,360 --> 00:55:33,591 The memo gloated about the growing gap between rich and poor 1056 00:55:33,630 --> 00:55:37,088 and how they were now the new aristocracy 1057 00:55:37,133 --> 00:55:41,069 and that there was no end in sight for the gravy train they were on. 1058 00:55:41,104 --> 00:55:44,665 There was, though, one problem. 1059 00:55:44,708 --> 00:55:46,232 According to Citigroup, 1060 00:55:46,276 --> 00:55:48,870 the most potent and short-term threat 1061 00:55:48,912 --> 00:55:50,709 would be societies demanding 1062 00:55:50,747 --> 00:55:53,341 a more equitable share of the wealth. 1063 00:55:53,383 --> 00:55:57,752 ln other words, the peasants might revolt. 1064 00:55:57,787 --> 00:56:00,153 Citigroup lamented that the non-rich 1065 00:56:00,190 --> 00:56:02,658 might not have much economic power, 1066 00:56:02,692 --> 00:56:06,219 but they do have equal voting power with the rich. 1067 00:56:06,262 --> 00:56:09,231 One person, one vote. 1068 00:56:09,265 --> 00:56:11,927 And that's what really scares them-- 1069 00:56:11,968 --> 00:56:14,402 that we can still vote. 1070 00:56:14,437 --> 00:56:17,736 ln fact, we have 99% of the votes 1071 00:56:17,774 --> 00:56:20,572 and they only have 1 % . 1072 00:56:23,646 --> 00:56:27,605 So why do the 99% put up with this? 1073 00:56:27,650 --> 00:56:31,086 According to Citigroup, it's because the majority of the electorate 1074 00:56:31,121 --> 00:56:33,612 believe that someday they will have a chance 1075 00:56:33,656 --> 00:56:36,181 of becoming well-to-do themselves 1076 00:56:36,226 --> 00:56:39,389 if they just keep trying hard enough. 1077 00:56:41,731 --> 00:56:44,029 The wealthy were pleased that so many people 1078 00:56:44,067 --> 00:56:46,900 had bought in to the American Dream 1079 00:56:46,936 --> 00:56:49,996 while they, the rich, had no intention 1080 00:56:50,039 --> 00:56:52,940 of ever sharing it with anyone. 1081 00:56:52,976 --> 00:56:56,275 l think capitalism is a lot more important than democracy. 1082 00:56:56,312 --> 00:56:58,678 l'm not even a big believer in democracy. 1083 00:56:58,715 --> 00:57:02,310 l always say that democracy is-- can be two wolves and a sheep 1084 00:57:02,352 --> 00:57:04,013 deciding on what to have for dinner. 1085 00:57:04,053 --> 00:57:07,284 Moore: This is Stephen Moore-- no relation-- 1086 00:57:07,323 --> 00:57:09,757 a columnist and an editorial board member 1087 00:57:09,793 --> 00:57:11,556 of ''The Wall Street Journal,'' 1088 00:57:11,594 --> 00:57:15,030 the daily bible of corporate America. 1089 00:57:15,064 --> 00:57:18,124 Look, l'm in favor of people having the right to vote 1090 00:57:18,168 --> 00:57:20,636 and things like that, but you know there are a lot of countries 1091 00:57:20,670 --> 00:57:24,538 that have the right to vote that are still poor. 1092 00:57:24,574 --> 00:57:27,941 Democracy doesn't always lead to a good economy 1093 00:57:27,977 --> 00:57:29,911 or even a good political system. 1094 00:57:29,946 --> 00:57:33,313 With capitalism, you are free to do what you want, 1095 00:57:33,349 --> 00:57:35,408 to make whatever you want out of yourself. 1096 00:57:35,452 --> 00:57:36,976 lt doesn't mean you're gonna succeed. 1097 00:57:37,020 --> 00:57:41,423 Remember, the US Constitution does not guarantee happiness. 1098 00:57:41,458 --> 00:57:44,086 Moore: Ah, the Constitution. 1099 00:57:44,127 --> 00:57:47,893 All my life l've heard that America is a capitalist country. 1100 00:57:47,931 --> 00:57:52,197 So l went to see the original Constitution and check out if it was true. 1101 00:57:52,235 --> 00:57:55,671 l'm trying to see where it sets up our economic system, 1102 00:57:55,705 --> 00:57:58,936 like where it says we have a capitalist economy. 1103 00:57:58,975 --> 00:58:01,136 Guard: The jurisdiction. 1104 00:58:01,177 --> 00:58:02,974 - Judicial part of the-- - Down there? 1105 00:58:03,012 --> 00:58:06,812 Moore: There was no mention of free market or free enterprise 1106 00:58:06,850 --> 00:58:09,444 or capitalism anywhere. 1107 00:58:10,487 --> 00:58:13,752 ln fact, all l saw was ''We the people,'' 1108 00:58:13,790 --> 00:58:16,384 something about ''a more perfect union,'' 1109 00:58:16,426 --> 00:58:19,793 and ''promoting the general welfare.'' 1110 00:58:19,829 --> 00:58:24,323 Welfare, union, we? 1111 00:58:24,367 --> 00:58:26,767 That sounded like that other -ism. 1112 00:58:26,803 --> 00:58:30,239 But no, that's democracy. 1113 00:58:30,273 --> 00:58:31,975 And l began to wonder, ''What would it be like 1114 00:58:31,975 --> 00:58:32,999 And l began to wonder, ''What would it be like 1115 00:58:33,042 --> 00:58:36,375 if the workplace was a democracy?'' 1116 00:58:36,412 --> 00:58:39,745 There's always been a big separation between how the country is run 1117 00:58:39,782 --> 00:58:43,013 and how businesses are supposed to run. 1118 00:58:43,052 --> 00:58:44,246 Moore: lt's true. 1119 00:58:44,287 --> 00:58:46,152 There seems to be a disconnect 1120 00:58:46,189 --> 00:58:48,521 between our professed love of democracy 1121 00:58:48,558 --> 00:58:51,584 and how we're so willing to accept a dictatorship 1122 00:58:51,628 --> 00:58:54,495 every day we show up to work. 1123 00:58:54,531 --> 00:58:58,331 lt's not that way at lsthmus Engineering in Wisconsin. 1124 00:58:58,368 --> 00:59:02,202 They design and build robotic machines for industry. 1125 00:59:02,238 --> 00:59:05,401 lt's a $15 million-a-year business. 1126 00:59:05,441 --> 00:59:07,238 Man: All of the workers 1127 00:59:07,277 --> 00:59:10,610 are the owners of the business. 1128 00:59:10,647 --> 00:59:14,208 Moore: He's not talking about some bullshit stock option. 1129 00:59:14,250 --> 00:59:17,651 He means they're the true owners. 1130 00:59:17,687 --> 00:59:20,520 Man: And it's a democratically-run operation where every member 1131 00:59:20,557 --> 00:59:23,526 has one vote and an equal say. 1132 00:59:23,560 --> 00:59:25,824 - All in favor? - All in favor? 1133 00:59:25,862 --> 00:59:28,888 Man: lt takes the money out of the equation. 1134 00:59:28,932 --> 00:59:30,957 Moore: By taking the money out of the equation 1135 00:59:31,000 --> 00:59:33,230 so that they can call the shots, 1136 00:59:33,269 --> 00:59:35,601 they end up making more money. 1137 00:59:35,638 --> 00:59:38,266 Cool, huh? 1138 00:59:41,945 --> 00:59:44,743 And how patriotic that they want to extend 1139 00:59:44,781 --> 00:59:48,615 their love of American democracy to their job. 1140 00:59:54,924 --> 00:59:56,858 Just imagine if the place where you worked 1141 00:59:56,893 --> 01:00:00,056 was run by you and your fellow workers. 1142 01:00:00,096 --> 01:00:01,961 You probably wouldn't lay off your coworkers 1143 01:00:01,998 --> 01:00:04,933 to increase the value of your stock, would you? 1144 01:00:04,968 --> 01:00:06,435 Or give yourself a pay raise 1145 01:00:06,469 --> 01:00:09,336 while making your coworkers take a pay cut. 1146 01:00:09,372 --> 01:00:11,237 Man: We don't really do that here. 1147 01:00:11,274 --> 01:00:14,869 You really can't because everyone else would be looking at you 1148 01:00:14,911 --> 01:00:17,471 saying, ''Why is this guy so fricking greedy?'' 1149 01:00:17,513 --> 01:00:20,107 You know, it would be too obvious. 1150 01:00:20,149 --> 01:00:22,014 The bottom line is you've got plenty of people 1151 01:00:22,051 --> 01:00:23,848 who roll up their sleeves every day and go to work. 1152 01:00:23,886 --> 01:00:25,786 But if there's someone way up there on the chain 1153 01:00:25,822 --> 01:00:28,848 that collects all the extra money, that's not fair. 1154 01:00:28,891 --> 01:00:32,657 Moore: Huh, fairness in the workplace-- 1155 01:00:32,695 --> 01:00:35,027 what a novel idea. 1156 01:00:36,466 --> 01:00:39,697 Out in California, there's a bread factory 1157 01:00:39,736 --> 01:00:43,297 where workers make thousands of loaves of bread every day 1158 01:00:43,339 --> 01:00:45,330 Man: The more hours you work towards 1159 01:00:45,375 --> 01:00:46,672 the benefit of the co-op, 1160 01:00:46,709 --> 01:00:49,576 the more you share in the profits. 1161 01:00:49,612 --> 01:00:51,807 Man #2: The workers are happy here. 1162 01:00:51,848 --> 01:00:54,316 No big ls, little yous. Everyone's the same. 1163 01:00:54,350 --> 01:00:57,842 Me as the CEO, l get the same share 1164 01:00:57,887 --> 01:00:59,912 that anybody else does. 1165 01:00:59,956 --> 01:01:01,753 And that has proven 1166 01:01:01,791 --> 01:01:04,123 to be very lucrative for us as workers. 1167 01:01:05,962 --> 01:01:10,524 Moore: Assembly-line workers here earn over $65,000 a year, 1168 01:01:10,566 --> 01:01:12,659 more than three times the pay 1169 01:01:12,702 --> 01:01:15,262 for a starting pilot at American Eagle. 1170 01:01:15,304 --> 01:01:18,102 Man: l'm just hoping that people take notice 1171 01:01:18,141 --> 01:01:20,302 of this type of organizational activity 1172 01:01:20,343 --> 01:01:23,744 and start considering it as an alternative. 1173 01:01:23,780 --> 01:01:25,111 Why do you want to get rich? 1174 01:01:25,148 --> 01:01:27,082 How many cars do you really need in life? 1175 01:01:27,116 --> 01:01:31,712 Moore: Clearly, he's not a car guy, but that's okay. 1176 01:01:31,754 --> 01:01:35,281 His bread factory and hundreds of other worker-owned businesses 1177 01:01:35,324 --> 01:01:38,919 are proof that people aren't always motivated by profit. 1178 01:01:38,961 --> 01:01:41,759 ( fanfare ) 1179 01:01:41,798 --> 01:01:44,426 Announcer: An historic victory over a dread disease. 1180 01:01:44,467 --> 01:01:47,834 Moore: lnstead of using his genius to make a ton of money, 1181 01:01:47,870 --> 01:01:51,135 Dr. Jonas Salk spent all of his time 1182 01:01:51,174 --> 01:01:53,665 putting monkey kidneys in a blender 1183 01:01:53,710 --> 01:01:55,769 trying to find a cure for polio. 1184 01:01:55,812 --> 01:02:00,681 And when he did, he decided to give it away for free. 1185 01:02:00,717 --> 01:02:03,777 This man could have been rich many times over 1186 01:02:03,820 --> 01:02:07,153 had he sold his vaccine to a pharmaceutical company. 1187 01:02:07,190 --> 01:02:09,624 But he thought his talents should be used 1188 01:02:09,659 --> 01:02:10,853 for the greater good. 1189 01:02:10,893 --> 01:02:13,828 And the decent salary he made as a doctor 1190 01:02:13,863 --> 01:02:16,263 and a research professor was enough for him to live 1191 01:02:16,299 --> 01:02:18,358 a comfortable life. 1192 01:02:18,401 --> 01:02:20,801 Who owns the patent on this vaccine? 1193 01:02:20,837 --> 01:02:22,805 Well, the people, l would say. 1194 01:02:22,839 --> 01:02:26,400 There is no patent. Would you patent the sun? 1195 01:02:26,442 --> 01:02:30,276 Moore: Yes, we've come a long way since the days of Dr. Salk. 1196 01:02:30,313 --> 01:02:34,443 Because today our best minds are used for something else. 1197 01:02:34,484 --> 01:02:35,251 Where do we send our top math and science people? 1198 01:02:35,251 --> 01:02:38,516 Where do we send our top math and science people? 1199 01:02:38,554 --> 01:02:39,885 lnto finance. 1200 01:02:39,922 --> 01:02:42,390 They don't go into science in America. 1201 01:02:42,425 --> 01:02:45,121 They go to Wall Street. 1202 01:02:45,161 --> 01:02:48,221 Moore: Today's students, unlike in Dr. Salk's time, 1203 01:02:48,264 --> 01:02:50,824 can graduate from college with a student loan debt 1204 01:02:50,867 --> 01:02:53,893 of up to $100,000 or more. 1205 01:02:53,936 --> 01:02:56,234 These students are then beholden to the banks 1206 01:02:56,272 --> 01:02:59,241 for the next 20 years. 1207 01:02:59,275 --> 01:03:02,108 And the best way for them to pay off these banks 1208 01:03:02,145 --> 01:03:04,079 is to go to work for them 1209 01:03:04,113 --> 01:03:06,741 instead of working for the common good. 1210 01:03:06,783 --> 01:03:11,152 Black: We've taken people that could be enormously productive-- 1211 01:03:11,187 --> 01:03:12,814 just what we're short of in America-- 1212 01:03:12,855 --> 01:03:15,881 and we take them and we put them in an activity 1213 01:03:15,925 --> 01:03:17,916 that isn't simply less productive, 1214 01:03:17,960 --> 01:03:20,758 but where they're actually destructive; 1215 01:03:20,797 --> 01:03:24,597 where actually every day they work, they make the world worse. 1216 01:03:24,634 --> 01:03:27,694 Moore: So what exactly were the top students from Harvard 1217 01:03:27,737 --> 01:03:29,728 and other schools working on these days? 1218 01:03:29,772 --> 01:03:31,797 Derivatives... derivatives... derivatives... derivatives... 1219 01:03:31,841 --> 01:03:34,241 Credit default swaps. 1220 01:03:34,277 --> 01:03:36,302 l can't make any sense out of this. 1221 01:03:36,345 --> 01:03:38,108 l might as well quit. 1222 01:03:38,147 --> 01:03:40,047 Moore: That's exactly how l felt