1 00:02:29,899 --> 00:02:32,109 You know that orange juice you have every morning? 2 00:02:32,277 --> 00:02:33,402 You know what's in that? 3 00:02:33,820 --> 00:02:34,862 Corn. 4 00:02:35,029 --> 00:02:37,698 And you know what's in the maple syrup on your pancakes? 5 00:02:37,866 --> 00:02:39,700 You know what makes it taste so good? 6 00:02:39,868 --> 00:02:42,244 Corn. When you're good and help with the trash... 7 00:02:42,412 --> 00:02:45,497 ...you know what makes the big, green bags biodegradable? 8 00:02:45,665 --> 00:02:46,790 Do you? 9 00:02:46,958 --> 00:02:48,584 Corn. 10 00:02:48,751 --> 00:02:50,460 Corn starch. 11 00:02:50,628 --> 00:02:53,422 But Daddy's company didn't come up with that one. DuPont did. 12 00:02:58,887 --> 00:03:01,972 Porsche or Porsche? I've heard it both ways. 13 00:03:02,140 --> 00:03:05,142 Three years in Germany, I should know. What's German for "corn"? 14 00:03:05,310 --> 00:03:08,312 The German word I really like is kugelschreiber. That's "pen. " 15 00:03:08,479 --> 00:03:10,606 All those syllables just for "pen. " 16 00:03:14,652 --> 00:03:17,988 Archer Daniels Midland. Most people have never heard of us. 17 00:03:18,156 --> 00:03:20,741 Chances are, they've never had a meal we're not part of. 18 00:03:20,909 --> 00:03:22,534 Just read the side of the package. 19 00:03:22,702 --> 00:03:25,954 That's us. Now ADM is taking the dextrose from the corn... 20 00:03:26,122 --> 00:03:29,875 ...and turning it into an amino acid called lysine. It's all very scientific. 21 00:03:30,043 --> 00:03:31,251 If you're a stockholder... 22 00:03:31,419 --> 00:03:34,880 ...all that matters is corn goes in one end and profit comes out the other. 23 00:03:35,048 --> 00:03:38,300 We have the largest lysine plant in the world. That's where I come in. 24 00:03:38,468 --> 00:03:39,927 - Hey, Kirk. - Mark. 25 00:03:40,094 --> 00:03:42,596 - When are we gonna hit some balls? - Anytime. 26 00:03:42,764 --> 00:03:45,891 What do they pay Kirk? What does a guy like that get? 27 00:03:46,059 --> 00:03:47,768 I bet he gets a hundred grand. 28 00:03:47,936 --> 00:03:51,146 He's just gonna sit behind that desk and ride it into the future. 29 00:03:51,314 --> 00:03:52,898 Good morgen. 30 00:04:01,032 --> 00:04:02,950 - Morning, Mark. - Morning. 31 00:04:03,117 --> 00:04:04,826 They have lysine results. 32 00:04:20,885 --> 00:04:22,803 Great. 33 00:04:24,681 --> 00:04:28,433 We adjusted the dextrose levels again, but the virus keeps showing up. 34 00:04:28,601 --> 00:04:32,854 I thought we had it surrounded this time. We started a new set of cultures. 35 00:04:34,524 --> 00:04:36,900 We'll get it. We just have to stay after it. 36 00:04:37,068 --> 00:04:39,611 The things eat sugar and that's what we're giving them. 37 00:04:39,779 --> 00:04:42,656 A warm place filled with sugar. 38 00:04:44,242 --> 00:04:48,870 The fucking thing is supposed to produce 113,000 tons annually. 39 00:04:49,038 --> 00:04:50,998 We're not gonna get anywhere close to that. 40 00:04:51,165 --> 00:04:54,710 We've got over $150 million in costs over there, guys. 41 00:04:54,877 --> 00:04:56,878 Do the Japanese have these problems? 42 00:04:57,046 --> 00:04:59,423 I don't give a shit about the Japanese. 43 00:04:59,590 --> 00:05:01,550 You've gotta get the goddamn lysine bugs... 44 00:05:01,718 --> 00:05:04,386 ...to eat some dextrose and shit us out some money. 45 00:05:04,554 --> 00:05:06,221 We're having problems with this virus. 46 00:05:06,389 --> 00:05:08,223 I don't want to hear about the virus. 47 00:05:08,391 --> 00:05:10,225 How much are we losing a month? 48 00:05:11,436 --> 00:05:15,605 We are down like seven million per. 49 00:05:15,898 --> 00:05:18,066 That's not gonna fly much longer. 50 00:05:18,234 --> 00:05:22,404 You want to go in next month, tell my father we're sucking the hind tit on this? 51 00:05:22,572 --> 00:05:23,905 I sure don't. 52 00:05:24,073 --> 00:05:27,993 We're number 44 on the Fortune 500 list, Mark. 53 00:05:28,161 --> 00:05:31,747 I don't want this turning us into number 45. 54 00:05:31,914 --> 00:05:33,248 Fix it. 55 00:05:35,084 --> 00:05:38,754 Feed a chicken corn and it gets sick, like what happened to the first settlers. 56 00:05:38,921 --> 00:05:41,173 Pellagra disease. Niacin deficiency. 57 00:05:41,341 --> 00:05:44,634 Gave them all sorts of problems: dermatitis, ataxia, even dementia. 58 00:05:44,802 --> 00:05:48,263 Feed a chicken corn and lysine and it goes from egg to supermarket fryer... 59 00:05:48,431 --> 00:05:50,349 ...in six months instead of eight. 60 00:05:50,516 --> 00:05:52,225 Mark? 61 00:05:53,436 --> 00:05:55,187 Where are you? 62 00:05:57,273 --> 00:05:58,440 Hey, you look great. 63 00:05:58,649 --> 00:06:00,067 Oh. 64 00:06:01,819 --> 00:06:04,571 They got the first wall of the stables up today. See that? 65 00:06:04,739 --> 00:06:07,115 You know they're doing a new thing in hydroponics? 66 00:06:07,283 --> 00:06:10,786 They're now feeding lysine to the jumbo shrimp. 67 00:06:11,371 --> 00:06:12,412 Can you imagine that? 68 00:06:12,580 --> 00:06:15,540 You're a jumbo shrimp and one day some corn goes floating by. 69 00:06:15,708 --> 00:06:17,918 What do you think about that? 70 00:06:18,086 --> 00:06:19,211 Weird, right? 71 00:06:19,379 --> 00:06:21,296 There's an opening in the plant in Mexico. 72 00:06:21,464 --> 00:06:23,965 They might need me to go down and set some stuff up. 73 00:06:24,133 --> 00:06:25,801 What do you think about Mexico? 74 00:06:27,011 --> 00:06:28,595 I thought we were getting horses. 75 00:06:30,848 --> 00:06:32,140 Toro. 76 00:06:32,308 --> 00:06:34,226 That's what Spanish bullfighters say. 77 00:06:34,394 --> 00:06:37,270 But it's also what the Japanese call the high-end tuna sushi. 78 00:06:37,438 --> 00:06:39,648 Toro. Raw fish. 79 00:06:39,816 --> 00:06:42,651 Who went first on that one? The guy without the grill. 80 00:06:42,819 --> 00:06:45,278 I've been to Tokio. They sell little-girl underwear... 81 00:06:45,446 --> 00:06:49,241 ...in the vending machines right on the main drag, the Ginza, or whatever. 82 00:06:49,409 --> 00:06:54,413 Guys in suits buying used girl panties. How is that okay? That's not okay. 83 00:06:55,998 --> 00:06:56,998 Yeah. 84 00:06:57,166 --> 00:07:00,419 There's a Mr. Nakawara calling from the Ajinomoto Corporation. 85 00:07:00,586 --> 00:07:03,839 He says you know him and he needs to speak with you. 86 00:07:04,006 --> 00:07:05,048 Yeah, put him through. 87 00:07:05,216 --> 00:07:09,386 It's the Japanese. There's this guy, Nakawara. He works at Ajinomoto. 88 00:07:09,554 --> 00:07:11,555 He was here a couple weeks ago. You met him. 89 00:07:11,722 --> 00:07:14,516 I've been talking to him at work, but sometimes from home... 90 00:07:14,684 --> 00:07:16,643 ...because of the time difference. 91 00:07:16,811 --> 00:07:21,356 Mick, this guy knew everything. Everything. 92 00:07:21,524 --> 00:07:25,444 He says to me, "Hey, you know that total nightmare you guys had May, June, July?" 93 00:07:25,611 --> 00:07:27,988 Before I ask him what he's talking about, he goes: 94 00:07:28,156 --> 00:07:33,660 "Those months when ADM was losing $7 million a month in the lysine business. " 95 00:07:33,828 --> 00:07:35,203 Mick, I couldn't believe it. 96 00:07:35,371 --> 00:07:38,623 He goes on to tell me that one of our highest-paid employees... 97 00:07:38,791 --> 00:07:43,879 ...is actually an employee of Ajinomoto, who is sabotaging the plant. 98 00:07:44,046 --> 00:07:48,675 They're injecting a virus into the dextrose and contaminating the whole deal. 99 00:07:49,218 --> 00:07:50,385 That's the problem. 100 00:07:50,553 --> 00:07:52,888 I'm telling you, Mick, it's like Rising Sun. 101 00:07:53,055 --> 00:07:55,557 It's like the Crichton novel. It's just like that. 102 00:07:55,725 --> 00:07:58,185 I go, "Why are you talking to me?" Know what he says? 103 00:07:58,352 --> 00:08:00,061 Yeah, I know what he says. 104 00:08:01,063 --> 00:08:02,898 How much does he want? 105 00:08:03,774 --> 00:08:05,150 Ten million dollars. 106 00:08:06,402 --> 00:08:10,739 Ten million, but that gives you the identity of the saboteur... 107 00:08:10,907 --> 00:08:14,409 ...the secret identity, and a new lysine bug that is immune to the virus. 108 00:08:14,577 --> 00:08:17,329 We have the plant up and running in three days. 109 00:08:17,497 --> 00:08:19,289 How well do you know this guy? 110 00:08:21,542 --> 00:08:25,212 I met him when he was here. We've spoken on the phone half a dozen times. 111 00:08:25,379 --> 00:08:26,755 So not very well. 112 00:08:27,798 --> 00:08:31,176 Very well? No, I wouldn't say that. 113 00:08:31,344 --> 00:08:34,971 If you hear from him again, talk him down on the price. 114 00:08:35,139 --> 00:08:37,599 Find out the least amount of money he'd settle for. 115 00:08:37,767 --> 00:08:43,396 I mean, if we can get a bug that's resistant to the virus, this might be worth it. 116 00:08:43,564 --> 00:08:44,773 But keep this secret. 117 00:08:44,941 --> 00:08:48,193 If there is a mole, I don't want him to know that we're on to him. 118 00:08:48,361 --> 00:08:49,528 Absolutely. 119 00:08:53,241 --> 00:08:55,617 This would be a great Place for some outlet stores. 120 00:08:55,785 --> 00:08:58,954 People would come from all over southern Illinois, probably Missouri. 121 00:08:59,121 --> 00:09:01,039 Famous name-brand labels and appliances... 122 00:09:01,207 --> 00:09:03,833 ...at savings of up to 50 percent every day. 123 00:09:04,085 --> 00:09:06,795 Maybe a food court with a Mexican place. 124 00:09:07,755 --> 00:09:11,550 The birds eat the bugs, the cars eat the birds, the rust eats the cars... 125 00:09:11,717 --> 00:09:14,469 - ... and new construction eats the rust. Corky! 126 00:09:14,637 --> 00:09:17,639 Alexander says there's a bat in his room. 127 00:09:22,812 --> 00:09:24,396 The FBI? 128 00:09:26,482 --> 00:09:28,608 God, no. 129 00:09:28,776 --> 00:09:32,904 I thought you wanted me to talk him down on the price. And I was doing it. 130 00:09:33,072 --> 00:09:35,949 We're not gonna sit back and let the Japanese fuck us sideways. 131 00:09:36,117 --> 00:09:39,828 I don't understand. We weren't gonna mention it and now he's in on it? 132 00:09:39,996 --> 00:09:43,081 Of course he's in on it. If there's a mole, it's a security issue. 133 00:09:43,249 --> 00:09:44,749 I'll be sitting in with the FBI. 134 00:09:45,209 --> 00:09:48,003 I already told you everything there is to tell. 135 00:09:48,170 --> 00:09:49,754 I mean, what is the point? 136 00:09:49,922 --> 00:09:51,756 Mark. Calm down. All right? 137 00:09:51,924 --> 00:09:55,010 We don't like the idea of talking to the FBI any more than you do. 138 00:09:55,177 --> 00:09:59,681 They're just gonna tape the guy's calls, ask you a few questions. No big deal. 139 00:10:00,391 --> 00:10:02,058 Questions? 140 00:10:04,478 --> 00:10:05,520 Jesus. 141 00:10:06,522 --> 00:10:07,856 Mark? 142 00:10:08,024 --> 00:10:09,858 The FBI? 143 00:10:10,026 --> 00:10:12,444 Why do you have to talk to the FBI? It's their plant. 144 00:10:12,612 --> 00:10:15,155 Just... Just let them talk to the FBI. 145 00:10:15,698 --> 00:10:18,241 Babe, I am really uncomfortable with this. 146 00:10:18,409 --> 00:10:20,493 There are some things that are going on here. 147 00:10:22,079 --> 00:10:23,913 What does that mean, "things"? 148 00:10:24,081 --> 00:10:28,710 It just... It means that we have to be careful. 149 00:10:28,878 --> 00:10:33,214 Well, whatever you do, Corky, no matter what's going on... 150 00:10:33,382 --> 00:10:36,551 ...just be honest with them and tell them the truth, okay? 151 00:10:37,094 --> 00:10:40,680 He said he wanted the money wired... 152 00:10:43,267 --> 00:10:46,728 ...into a numbered account in Switzerland... 153 00:10:46,896 --> 00:10:49,147 ...and then also in the Caribbean. 154 00:10:52,610 --> 00:10:58,114 Uh... And when did you last have contact with him? 155 00:10:58,282 --> 00:11:00,033 Two days ago. 156 00:11:01,744 --> 00:11:04,746 But I think he's getting suspicious. 157 00:11:05,414 --> 00:11:10,669 I've been dragging this thing along. I think if we don't make a move... 158 00:11:10,836 --> 00:11:13,046 I mean, he could already have backed down here. 159 00:11:14,048 --> 00:11:17,592 And these calls, they've been coming in on your home line? 160 00:11:20,388 --> 00:11:24,766 Well, I have an ADM line at my house. It's a business line. 161 00:11:25,976 --> 00:11:28,937 They've been coming in on the business line. 162 00:11:29,105 --> 00:11:32,774 Well, I think we should start with... 163 00:11:32,942 --> 00:11:36,069 ...putting a recording device on your phone. 164 00:11:36,237 --> 00:11:37,737 There's a sale at Bachrach's. 165 00:11:37,905 --> 00:11:40,657 They have those Oscar de la Renta ties that nobody buys. 166 00:11:40,825 --> 00:11:42,826 What are they, two for one for another week? 167 00:11:42,993 --> 00:11:46,121 Diagonal bands of color hanging around your neck. 168 00:11:46,288 --> 00:11:48,456 They never put the nice Brioni ties on sale. 169 00:11:48,624 --> 00:11:50,500 I should just get all my ties in Paris... 170 00:11:50,668 --> 00:11:53,461 ...wear them once or twice and shove them in a duty-free bag. 171 00:11:53,629 --> 00:11:55,755 Nobody gets stopped at customs for ties. 172 00:11:55,923 --> 00:11:57,716 I can help with that. 173 00:11:59,593 --> 00:12:01,344 So... 174 00:12:01,512 --> 00:12:03,179 ...that's it, then. 175 00:12:03,848 --> 00:12:05,515 I can go? 176 00:12:06,809 --> 00:12:09,519 Listen. Why don't...? Ahem. 177 00:12:11,147 --> 00:12:14,149 I'd like to come out tomorrow, get on that phone. 178 00:12:14,316 --> 00:12:17,152 Great. No problem. 179 00:12:18,696 --> 00:12:21,030 - Thank you for your time. - Thank you. 180 00:12:44,388 --> 00:12:48,600 You told the truth, Mark. That's all you can do. 181 00:12:49,143 --> 00:12:50,518 I never even had the chance. 182 00:12:53,689 --> 00:12:55,982 They were watching me the whole time. 183 00:12:58,652 --> 00:13:00,820 Cheviron was in the room. 184 00:13:10,831 --> 00:13:14,709 Mick Andreas gets the vice president of the United States as his godfather. 185 00:13:14,877 --> 00:13:17,170 He goes to Richard Nixon's house for Thanksgiving. 186 00:13:17,338 --> 00:13:19,881 It's not like his parents died in a car accident... 187 00:13:20,049 --> 00:13:22,050 ...and he ended up in an orphanage. 188 00:13:22,301 --> 00:13:24,427 Mick's dad wrote a check to the Nixon campaign. 189 00:13:24,595 --> 00:13:27,055 It wound up in the account of the Watergate burglars. 190 00:13:27,223 --> 00:13:29,224 Did he admit it? I don't think so. 191 00:13:29,391 --> 00:13:31,684 Besides, ADM probably owns the FBI. 192 00:13:31,852 --> 00:13:34,562 They probably wanted me to move into Dwayne's old house... 193 00:13:34,730 --> 00:13:37,816 ...because they got it wired like in a Crichton novel. 194 00:13:37,983 --> 00:13:39,901 Marty Allison called. 195 00:13:40,069 --> 00:13:44,739 And Sid Hulse wants to know if you can have dinner at 7:00 instead of 7:30. 196 00:13:54,500 --> 00:13:55,750 Great earrings, Ginger. 197 00:13:55,918 --> 00:13:58,419 Bet you can see those shining from space. 198 00:13:58,587 --> 00:14:01,756 Mark got them abroad. 199 00:14:01,924 --> 00:14:03,383 I can't remember where. 200 00:14:03,551 --> 00:14:05,093 Nigeria? 201 00:14:05,719 --> 00:14:07,053 Not funny, Sid. 202 00:14:07,221 --> 00:14:08,429 You're telling me. 203 00:14:10,599 --> 00:14:12,517 So, Sid, you're off tomorrow? 204 00:14:13,727 --> 00:14:14,936 Where to? 205 00:14:15,104 --> 00:14:16,896 West Coast swing. 206 00:14:17,690 --> 00:14:20,024 Gotta get up there. Kick some Japanese butt. 207 00:14:22,027 --> 00:14:23,653 I'm not gonna see you for weeks? 208 00:14:23,821 --> 00:14:26,364 Maybe longer if I get lost in the Ginza. 209 00:14:27,783 --> 00:14:29,742 Have a great trip, Sid. 210 00:14:33,080 --> 00:14:35,039 Just tell them everything. 211 00:14:35,749 --> 00:14:37,375 We'll leave. 212 00:14:38,460 --> 00:14:41,087 I don't like what this company is doing to you. 213 00:14:41,255 --> 00:14:44,591 This is a chance to start somewhere new. 214 00:14:44,758 --> 00:14:47,051 Remember, you said Mexico? 215 00:14:47,928 --> 00:14:53,224 I may tell them at some point. But now, I gotta toe the company line here. 216 00:14:53,392 --> 00:14:55,226 Mark... 217 00:14:55,644 --> 00:14:58,229 ...if you don't tell them, I will. 218 00:14:59,773 --> 00:15:01,566 I can't. 219 00:15:02,192 --> 00:15:04,027 Not now. 220 00:15:12,995 --> 00:15:15,163 Hello. Please. 221 00:15:16,665 --> 00:15:18,958 Agent Shepard, my wife, Ginger. 222 00:15:19,126 --> 00:15:22,170 Ma'am. I know it's late. 223 00:15:22,338 --> 00:15:24,213 I'll be out of your hair in a minute. 224 00:15:24,673 --> 00:15:27,592 Great. Maybe a cup of coffee for Agent Shepard? 225 00:15:28,093 --> 00:15:29,510 Okay. 226 00:15:30,804 --> 00:15:33,556 Just show me where the line in question... 227 00:15:33,724 --> 00:15:34,933 It's that one over there. 228 00:15:35,100 --> 00:15:38,186 There should be a TV show about a guy who calls home and he's there. 229 00:15:38,354 --> 00:15:41,356 He answers, he's talking to himself, only it's someone else. 230 00:15:41,523 --> 00:15:44,859 He's somehow divided into two and the second one of him drives away. 231 00:15:45,027 --> 00:15:47,487 The show is about him trying to find the guy. 232 00:15:47,655 --> 00:15:50,573 I'll give you a call tomorrow. We can test it out. 233 00:15:50,741 --> 00:15:53,242 Great. Great. Okay. Thank you for coming by. 234 00:15:53,410 --> 00:15:54,452 - Good night. - Night. 235 00:15:54,620 --> 00:15:56,204 Good night, Mrs. Whitacre. 236 00:15:56,372 --> 00:15:57,664 Good night. 237 00:16:02,294 --> 00:16:05,380 - Are you gonna say something, or am I? - Don't. 238 00:16:08,509 --> 00:16:10,093 Brian? 239 00:16:11,387 --> 00:16:13,179 Hey, got a minute? 240 00:16:17,601 --> 00:16:18,935 Um... 241 00:16:22,231 --> 00:16:24,399 Can I talk to you in the car? 242 00:16:25,484 --> 00:16:27,193 Sure. 243 00:16:39,498 --> 00:16:43,710 We could go back inside if you want. 244 00:16:43,877 --> 00:16:46,671 They might have it bugged. We're safer out here. 245 00:16:46,839 --> 00:16:48,172 Bugged? 246 00:16:49,091 --> 00:16:50,341 What? 247 00:16:51,010 --> 00:16:52,593 Who? 248 00:16:53,846 --> 00:16:55,346 Us? 249 00:16:56,265 --> 00:16:59,142 All right, there's things I know. If I decide to tell you... 250 00:16:59,309 --> 00:17:00,601 ...could I be prosecuted? 251 00:17:00,769 --> 00:17:03,646 I cannot provide you with immunity, but any information... 252 00:17:03,814 --> 00:17:06,357 ...about your involvement in criminal activity... 253 00:17:06,525 --> 00:17:10,570 ...would be discussed in a favorable light with the U.S. Attorney's office. 254 00:17:13,824 --> 00:17:17,827 Okay. Everything I told you yesterday about Nakawara was true. Absolutely. 255 00:17:18,120 --> 00:17:22,415 Except one thing. He never called me on my business line. 256 00:17:22,583 --> 00:17:25,460 Well, why did you tell me that he did? 257 00:17:25,627 --> 00:17:29,547 Before I spoke with you yesterday, I was coached by the guys at ADM... 258 00:17:29,715 --> 00:17:32,842 ...to tell you that he called on my business line, not my home line. 259 00:17:33,010 --> 00:17:34,052 Why? 260 00:17:36,638 --> 00:17:40,141 What I'm about to tell you, it involves something very large. 261 00:17:40,350 --> 00:17:44,645 This Nakawara extortion thing is nothing compared to it, nothing at all. 262 00:17:47,733 --> 00:17:50,985 This involves price fixing in the lysine business. 263 00:17:51,862 --> 00:17:53,738 - Now... - Wait, hang on. 264 00:17:59,870 --> 00:18:01,120 Take some notes. 265 00:18:03,499 --> 00:18:06,667 - Okay, go on. - Price fixing in the lysine business. 266 00:18:07,711 --> 00:18:11,172 I have been in several meetings with our Japanese and Korean competitors... 267 00:18:11,340 --> 00:18:15,176 ...over the last few months, where the sole purpose was to fix the prices. 268 00:18:15,344 --> 00:18:17,720 ADM made me go to those meetings. 269 00:18:17,888 --> 00:18:19,680 See, that's why they wanted me to lie. 270 00:18:19,848 --> 00:18:22,391 Because the Nakawara calls came in on my home line... 271 00:18:22,559 --> 00:18:25,520 ...but so do the calls from the people we're fixing prices with. 272 00:18:25,687 --> 00:18:27,355 They don't want you to hear those. 273 00:18:27,523 --> 00:18:30,900 They instructed me to tell you the Nakawara calls came in on my ADM line. 274 00:18:31,068 --> 00:18:34,570 But I realized that once you guys started digging around in the records... 275 00:18:34,738 --> 00:18:37,115 ...you'd see I have all these calls to Japan. 276 00:18:37,282 --> 00:18:40,284 Right? That's what scared me. Nobody's got more calls than me. 277 00:18:40,452 --> 00:18:44,038 So if you figure out the price-fixing thing, I'd be the fall guy. 278 00:18:44,206 --> 00:18:47,250 Who told you to participate in these price-fixing talks? 279 00:18:52,506 --> 00:18:55,758 I'm operating under the direction of Mick and Dwayne Andreas. 280 00:19:02,266 --> 00:19:04,642 He seems like a real good guy. 281 00:19:04,810 --> 00:19:08,187 I hope he doesn't mind me calling him Brian instead of Agent Shepard. 282 00:19:08,355 --> 00:19:09,772 I might even try Bri out. 283 00:19:09,940 --> 00:19:12,066 This must be very different for him... 284 00:19:12,234 --> 00:19:15,486 ...talking to a guy like me instead of a bank robber or a drug dealer. 285 00:19:16,613 --> 00:19:19,073 I could see us fishing or whatever. 286 00:19:19,241 --> 00:19:23,369 What a good listener. You don't meet one of those every day. 287 00:19:27,291 --> 00:19:48,728 Morning. 288 00:19:48,896 --> 00:19:50,479 What happened last night? 289 00:19:50,647 --> 00:19:52,940 What do you mean? Nothing. Well, they put a... 290 00:19:53,775 --> 00:19:56,110 ...recorder on the phone. 291 00:19:57,446 --> 00:19:58,821 That's it? 292 00:19:58,989 --> 00:20:00,531 Well, yeah. 293 00:20:01,325 --> 00:20:03,284 He said when Nakawara calls... 294 00:20:03,452 --> 00:20:07,747 ...I just flip a switch and record the conversation. 295 00:20:10,584 --> 00:20:12,084 Yeah? 296 00:20:12,502 --> 00:20:14,420 - Oh. Put her through. - Make sure you do it. 297 00:20:14,588 --> 00:20:16,297 They have ways of checking up. 298 00:20:16,465 --> 00:20:18,090 Sure thing. 299 00:20:18,926 --> 00:20:20,718 Hi, hon. 300 00:20:20,886 --> 00:20:22,136 What? 301 00:20:23,138 --> 00:20:25,139 Slow down, honey, slow... 302 00:20:25,849 --> 00:20:35,107 What? 303 00:20:36,318 --> 00:20:40,154 A pound of bacon, a peanut butter sandwich, some vitamins. 304 00:20:42,950 --> 00:20:47,495 Anything that ADM has a hand in, it's all fixed. That's what he's telling me. 305 00:20:47,663 --> 00:20:49,664 I mean, basically... 306 00:20:49,831 --> 00:20:53,000 I mean, everyone in this country is a victim of corporate crime... 307 00:20:53,210 --> 00:20:55,336 ...by the time they finish breakfast. 308 00:20:56,046 --> 00:20:58,631 You think the automobile companies can't make a car... 309 00:20:58,799 --> 00:21:00,508 ...that gets 100 miles to the gallon? 310 00:21:00,676 --> 00:21:03,386 You think the networks don't know who'll win the World Series... 311 00:21:03,553 --> 00:21:04,679 ...before the season starts? 312 00:21:04,846 --> 00:21:07,515 Paranoid is what people who are trying to take advantage... 313 00:21:07,683 --> 00:21:10,101 ...call you to get you to drop your guard. 314 00:21:10,269 --> 00:21:12,186 I read that in an in-flight magazine. 315 00:21:12,604 --> 00:21:17,692 One potential problem I see moving ahead with ADM is this guy Cheviron. 316 00:21:17,859 --> 00:21:22,029 He wants to be kept in on the loop on everything that we're doing. 317 00:21:27,744 --> 00:21:29,537 I want to meet Mark Whitacre. 318 00:21:30,372 --> 00:21:35,167 You said they were only gonna tap one line. One line. 319 00:21:35,335 --> 00:21:38,379 - They are only monitoring one line. - That is not true. 320 00:21:38,547 --> 00:21:42,049 That is absolutely not true. I just got off the phone with my wife. 321 00:21:42,217 --> 00:21:44,885 Some woman named Regina at the phone company called her... 322 00:21:45,053 --> 00:21:48,264 ...and said that both my lines are tapped. My home phone. 323 00:21:48,432 --> 00:21:51,350 Come on, Mark. The phone company doesn't call people and say: 324 00:21:51,518 --> 00:21:55,896 "Hello, we just wanted to let you know that the FBI is tapping your phone lines. " 325 00:21:56,064 --> 00:21:58,232 Then why would Regina say that? 326 00:21:58,400 --> 00:22:01,736 She didn't say it. You're saying it. 327 00:22:02,529 --> 00:22:03,571 Call my wife. 328 00:22:04,448 --> 00:22:06,907 - Call Regina. - Fine. Mark. 329 00:22:07,451 --> 00:22:10,369 I will. All right? I will. 330 00:22:10,537 --> 00:22:12,204 Good. 331 00:22:18,086 --> 00:22:19,420 I don't like wool on skin. 332 00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:22,882 Not even that merino wool they have at Marshall Field in Chicago. 333 00:22:23,050 --> 00:22:26,093 Ginger likes it because it's formfitting, but she likes avocados. 334 00:22:26,261 --> 00:22:28,429 And who wants that texture in their mouth? 335 00:22:28,597 --> 00:22:32,600 Who'd make up someone named Regina? It's the capital of Saskatchewan. 336 00:22:40,150 --> 00:22:41,525 FBI, Shepard. 337 00:22:41,693 --> 00:22:44,028 Hello, Brian. It's Mark Cheviron at ADM. 338 00:22:44,196 --> 00:22:45,529 Yeah, Mark. 339 00:22:45,697 --> 00:22:49,283 I was talking to you guys a couple days ago about which of the lines... 340 00:22:49,451 --> 00:22:51,911 ...at Mark Whitacre's house you would be monitoring... 341 00:22:52,079 --> 00:22:55,164 ...and we had agreed it would only be the business line... 342 00:22:55,332 --> 00:22:57,917 ...so that's all you did, right? 343 00:22:58,627 --> 00:23:01,045 I really can't answer that. 344 00:23:02,214 --> 00:23:04,131 Uh... Okay. 345 00:23:04,299 --> 00:23:05,841 Thank you. 346 00:23:17,479 --> 00:23:22,024 We have decided we will no longer be cooperating with any further FBI requests. 347 00:23:22,192 --> 00:23:24,110 I knew it. I knew it. 348 00:23:24,277 --> 00:23:28,280 I told you and you wouldn't listen. You said, "Just the office line, Mark. " 349 00:23:29,491 --> 00:23:31,283 Evidently, they were lying to us too. 350 00:23:31,451 --> 00:23:35,079 Well, evidently, you can't keep track of what the FBI's doing. 351 00:23:37,874 --> 00:23:38,916 Yeah? 352 00:23:39,084 --> 00:23:41,168 The call you were expecting, Mark? 353 00:23:41,545 --> 00:23:42,962 Well, put him through. 354 00:23:43,130 --> 00:23:45,381 It's a Swedish deal I'm working on. 355 00:23:46,341 --> 00:23:49,510 - Mark Whitacre. - Hey, Mark, it's Brian Shepard. 356 00:23:49,678 --> 00:23:51,846 I told Shepard we're done working with him now. 357 00:23:52,013 --> 00:23:54,432 Hi. So good to hear from you. 358 00:23:54,599 --> 00:23:58,227 I want to bring my supervisor by to meet you. 359 00:23:58,520 --> 00:24:00,146 This weekend be okay? 360 00:24:00,313 --> 00:24:02,189 Well, great. 361 00:24:02,357 --> 00:24:05,526 Well... So Mr. Andreas is in my office right now. 362 00:24:06,570 --> 00:24:08,279 Okay. - So I'll talk to you later. 363 00:24:08,447 --> 00:24:09,738 - Okay. - Good. 364 00:24:09,906 --> 00:24:11,866 What do I do if this Shepard guy calls? 365 00:24:12,033 --> 00:24:14,660 You let me know about it, and I'll tell my dad. 366 00:24:14,828 --> 00:24:17,371 But you're done talking to them. 367 00:24:18,248 --> 00:24:20,166 Absolutely. 368 00:24:23,420 --> 00:24:26,380 Okay, guys, I'm gonna go over the rules. 369 00:24:26,548 --> 00:24:30,301 There's no running, no pushing, no horseplay by the pool. 370 00:24:30,469 --> 00:24:32,887 And when you have fished all the leaves out... 371 00:24:33,054 --> 00:24:36,765 ...you go into the garage and get the cover for the pool. 372 00:24:37,559 --> 00:24:40,352 And I'm gonna go get your dad when he's done... 373 00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:42,730 ...and he's gonna come and do an inspection. 374 00:24:42,898 --> 00:24:45,191 - What was that, honey? You already told us this. 375 00:24:45,358 --> 00:24:49,153 Honey, well, I'm going over it again. 376 00:24:51,406 --> 00:24:54,366 Now, what is the scoop with all my phones being tapped? 377 00:24:54,534 --> 00:24:57,578 The only listening device was the recorder, Mark. 378 00:24:57,746 --> 00:25:03,083 We had a trap-and-trace device on your home line, but we can't listen in on that. 379 00:25:04,085 --> 00:25:06,212 However, the phone company calling your wife... 380 00:25:06,379 --> 00:25:08,589 ...and telling her about our intel gathering... 381 00:25:08,757 --> 00:25:10,925 Well, my face is red on that one. 382 00:25:11,092 --> 00:25:12,635 Shouldn't happen. 383 00:25:13,094 --> 00:25:16,847 - Did you bring the expense reports? - Yeah. Yeah. 384 00:25:17,807 --> 00:25:22,061 Okay, this is Mexico City, Paris, Hong Kong, Tokio. 385 00:25:22,229 --> 00:25:25,773 There was a meeting of the Corn Refiners Association in Florida last week. 386 00:25:25,941 --> 00:25:27,441 Mick and Terry went to that one. 387 00:25:27,609 --> 00:25:30,819 They were doing the regular meeting during the day, and at night... 388 00:25:30,987 --> 00:25:34,698 ...they'd get together with our competitors and work out how to fix the prices. 389 00:25:34,866 --> 00:25:37,910 Watch. In about six months, the price of a liter of soda pop... 390 00:25:38,078 --> 00:25:39,954 ...is gonna be about 5 cents more. 391 00:25:40,121 --> 00:25:41,747 Well, when's the next meeting? 392 00:25:41,915 --> 00:25:45,125 January. Somewhere in Asia. 393 00:25:45,293 --> 00:25:49,129 Mark, I gotta ask you. Why are you doing this? 394 00:25:49,589 --> 00:25:52,758 We know you lied about the phone line, and you're afraid of that. 395 00:25:52,926 --> 00:25:58,138 But now you're telling us all this other stuff out of the blue. Got to ask you why. 396 00:25:59,516 --> 00:26:02,351 Well, because things are going on I don't approve of. 397 00:26:02,852 --> 00:26:05,854 Now, I'm a biochemist. I'm a technical guy. 398 00:26:06,022 --> 00:26:07,982 And they pull me into the business side... 399 00:26:08,149 --> 00:26:11,819 ...and suddenly I find out all these things are going on that are illegal. 400 00:26:11,987 --> 00:26:15,155 If I want to grow with ADM, I gotta learn the business side. 401 00:26:15,323 --> 00:26:18,117 And so suddenly, I'm lying. They're making me lie to people. 402 00:26:18,285 --> 00:26:19,577 I lie to you. 403 00:26:19,744 --> 00:26:21,453 I mean, I feel real bad about that. 404 00:26:22,122 --> 00:26:25,583 You look at yourself as wearing a white hat and they're wearing black hats? 405 00:26:25,750 --> 00:26:27,501 Absolutely. Something like that. 406 00:26:27,919 --> 00:26:30,713 When I was a kid, my folks died in an automobile accident. 407 00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:34,842 I was maybe 6 years old and a wealthy man from Ohio adopted me. 408 00:26:35,051 --> 00:26:38,053 Guy owned amusement parks. He did very well for himself. 409 00:26:38,555 --> 00:26:42,683 I caught a big break there, real big break. I went to a good school and all. 410 00:26:42,892 --> 00:26:47,271 Now I adopted two kids of my own. I'm trying to do the right thing here. 411 00:26:48,398 --> 00:26:49,940 Well, Mark... 412 00:26:50,108 --> 00:26:53,652 ...do you think you'd be wiling to go a few steps further in helping us? 413 00:26:55,238 --> 00:26:56,572 What does that mean? 414 00:26:56,740 --> 00:26:58,407 Would you... 415 00:26:59,242 --> 00:27:00,868 ...be willing to wear a wire? 416 00:27:01,578 --> 00:27:04,747 We don't have any other sources at this time. We... 417 00:27:05,415 --> 00:27:06,582 We need your help. 418 00:27:06,875 --> 00:27:10,711 We'll be there with you all the way. It won't be easy. 419 00:27:10,879 --> 00:27:14,173 I'll use my beeper to signal you when it's time to set up a meeting. 420 00:27:14,341 --> 00:27:15,674 When you hear this... 421 00:27:16,217 --> 00:27:17,217 You know. Right? 422 00:27:18,595 --> 00:27:20,095 ...you call me. 423 00:27:21,890 --> 00:27:24,350 He's watched closely at work... 424 00:27:24,517 --> 00:27:28,228 ...and there's reason to believe that ADM has bugged his home. 425 00:27:28,521 --> 00:27:33,192 He's under a great deal of pressure. I mean, you gotta feel for the guy. 426 00:27:33,360 --> 00:27:35,736 He tells us the truth one day... 427 00:27:35,904 --> 00:27:39,406 ...and wakes up the next with two lives instead of one. 428 00:27:39,574 --> 00:27:43,410 Well, the good news is he decided to wake up and tell the truth. 429 00:27:45,955 --> 00:27:48,165 There are these butterflies in Central America. 430 00:27:48,333 --> 00:27:51,418 They're blue and orange and yellow and have poison in their wings. 431 00:27:51,586 --> 00:27:53,712 Just enough poison to stop a bird heart. 432 00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:56,840 But the birds know this somehow, so they don't eat them. 433 00:27:57,008 --> 00:27:59,635 But there are other ones, butterflies... 434 00:27:59,803 --> 00:28:03,764 ...they're orange, blue and yellow too, but no poison wings. 435 00:28:03,932 --> 00:28:07,434 They're just flying around, looking dangerous, getting by on their looks. 436 00:28:07,936 --> 00:28:09,144 Hey, Mark. 437 00:28:09,646 --> 00:28:11,939 - Hi, Brian. - Ready to make the call? 438 00:28:19,197 --> 00:28:22,282 Hey, wait up, dipshit. - We're gonna do it here? 439 00:28:25,787 --> 00:28:29,623 We can't get a room. There's problems with that. 440 00:28:31,584 --> 00:28:33,085 Um... 441 00:28:34,129 --> 00:28:37,881 I don't know, it just kind of seems, you know, awkward. 442 00:28:38,049 --> 00:28:40,300 It's the best I can do right now. 443 00:28:42,429 --> 00:28:43,971 Okay. 444 00:28:44,514 --> 00:28:46,098 Just... 445 00:28:47,851 --> 00:28:51,103 Hold the microphone against the receiver and I'll hold the recorder. 446 00:28:51,271 --> 00:28:52,312 009... 447 00:28:53,690 --> 00:28:55,816 ...454... 448 00:28:56,317 --> 00:28:58,986 ...58822. 449 00:28:59,154 --> 00:29:00,404 Thank you. 450 00:29:02,365 --> 00:29:06,160 - No, no, put it on the receiver. - Mr. Yamamoto, please. 451 00:29:06,327 --> 00:29:08,036 The receiver. 452 00:29:08,329 --> 00:29:11,665 - I have it on the receiver. - On the receiver, where you hear. 453 00:29:14,711 --> 00:29:16,420 I'm on hold. 454 00:29:19,215 --> 00:29:23,010 Hello, Mr. Yamamoto. It is Mark Whitacre. 455 00:29:23,553 --> 00:29:25,554 Hi, sir. How are you? 456 00:29:27,182 --> 00:29:30,309 No, I'm doing a lot of traveling this week, a lot of traveling. 457 00:29:30,852 --> 00:29:32,603 How are sales? 458 00:29:33,521 --> 00:29:36,815 Certainly we need to, in terms of our... 459 00:29:36,983 --> 00:29:38,442 In terms of our big customers... 460 00:29:38,610 --> 00:29:41,862 ...we definitely need to be thinking about a good price, yes? 461 00:29:42,030 --> 00:29:45,365 It's better to maintain a price of $2.50 in other countries... 462 00:29:45,533 --> 00:29:50,037 ...and $1.05 for the United States, and just like that, there it is: price fixing. 463 00:29:50,580 --> 00:29:53,874 Well, this is great, Mark. This verifies everything you've been saying. 464 00:29:54,042 --> 00:29:55,417 Yeah. 465 00:29:55,585 --> 00:29:58,212 - Thank you. Thank you so much. - Yeah. Absolutely. 466 00:29:59,547 --> 00:30:02,883 I like an indoor pool. Year-round usage. 467 00:30:03,092 --> 00:30:06,720 I like the steam off it in the winter. Very mysterious, that steam. 468 00:30:06,888 --> 00:30:08,388 Well, Marty... 469 00:30:10,016 --> 00:30:12,935 ...when you started work at ADM, how much money did you want? 470 00:30:13,228 --> 00:30:14,520 I wanted 50 grand. 471 00:30:15,563 --> 00:30:19,817 But I went and told Terry, "We can't get this guy for less than 75." 472 00:30:19,984 --> 00:30:22,444 - Yeah. - I got it for you. You were the first I hired. 473 00:30:22,612 --> 00:30:25,739 You've always been really generous with me. And I appreciate it. 474 00:30:25,907 --> 00:30:27,950 Here's what I want you to do. 475 00:30:28,618 --> 00:30:30,869 I want you to write down a name. 476 00:30:32,288 --> 00:30:35,916 Okay. What's the name? 477 00:30:37,293 --> 00:30:39,753 Nordkron Chemie. 478 00:30:40,463 --> 00:30:44,967 What is that, like, a Nigerian name or something? 479 00:30:45,134 --> 00:30:48,470 I like my hands. I think they're probably my favorite part of my body. 480 00:30:48,638 --> 00:30:51,515 I think that can be used to my advantage in social situations. 481 00:30:51,683 --> 00:30:55,269 If I can get people focused on my hands, I can get a good result in a meeting. 482 00:30:55,436 --> 00:30:57,104 Eye contact is real important too. 483 00:30:57,272 --> 00:30:59,439 Hey, I'm gonna check messages. 484 00:31:08,283 --> 00:31:10,742 You have one message. 485 00:31:14,747 --> 00:31:16,748 My phone died. I was on with the plant. 486 00:31:16,916 --> 00:31:19,084 Is there a payphone, a public but kind of...? 487 00:31:19,252 --> 00:31:20,419 - Across the lobby. - Right. 488 00:31:20,587 --> 00:31:23,338 - Mark, this is important bioproduct stuff. - I know. 489 00:31:23,506 --> 00:31:24,965 Hi, Dave. How's Holly doing? 490 00:31:25,133 --> 00:31:26,300 She's good. - Great. 491 00:31:26,467 --> 00:31:27,676 It's the plant. 492 00:31:27,844 --> 00:31:30,345 FBI. - Brian, it's Mark. 493 00:31:30,513 --> 00:31:33,181 I told you, I'm out of town on business this week. 494 00:31:33,349 --> 00:31:35,726 The case is getting some attention from the Bureau. 495 00:31:35,894 --> 00:31:37,644 There's another agent working with me. 496 00:31:37,812 --> 00:31:39,688 I can't talk right now. I have a meeting. 497 00:31:39,856 --> 00:31:42,149 I have people waiting for me. Bye. 498 00:31:43,359 --> 00:31:44,985 I'm here, Dave. 499 00:31:45,695 --> 00:31:49,031 Being able to do two things at once is a big part of success. 500 00:31:49,198 --> 00:31:51,575 I try and do abdominal exercises... Isometrics. 501 00:31:51,743 --> 00:31:53,243 ...even when I'm at a meeting. 502 00:31:53,411 --> 00:31:55,287 Tensing. Holding. 503 00:31:55,455 --> 00:31:56,538 Then releasing. 504 00:31:56,831 --> 00:31:59,708 I'll floss in the shower while the conditioner is in my hair... 505 00:31:59,876 --> 00:32:01,877 ...when you're just supposed to leave it in. 506 00:32:02,045 --> 00:32:05,130 Those things can really add up to a significant time savings. 507 00:32:05,298 --> 00:32:06,715 Hey, Kirk. 508 00:32:07,342 --> 00:32:08,634 I'll be heading to Europe... 509 00:32:08,801 --> 00:32:12,638 ...and I thought I could just hand deliver that check for the ABP deal in person. 510 00:32:12,805 --> 00:32:14,348 Remind me. ABP deal? 511 00:32:14,557 --> 00:32:17,684 It's a threonine microbe. They're making substantial improvements. 512 00:32:17,852 --> 00:32:20,187 We want to get into the market. That's the invoice. 513 00:32:20,355 --> 00:32:21,480 We'll just overnight it. 514 00:32:21,648 --> 00:32:24,816 I'm gonna see this Thorstensson guy, so I'll just hand it to him. 515 00:32:29,113 --> 00:32:31,573 The metric system never panned out. We had rulers... 516 00:32:31,741 --> 00:32:34,201 ...with inches on one edge, centimeters on the other. 517 00:32:34,369 --> 00:32:38,038 I pronounced it "centimeters" instead of "centimeters" and nobody corrected me. 518 00:32:38,206 --> 00:32:41,416 They let me walk around stupid. I'm not upset we never crossed over... 519 00:32:41,584 --> 00:32:43,794 ...though it's helpful to know the conversions. 520 00:32:43,962 --> 00:32:46,171 The liter bottle is the thing that caught on... 521 00:32:46,339 --> 00:32:49,383 ...because it's a nicer word, "liter" than "quart. " 522 00:32:49,550 --> 00:32:52,260 Quart. 523 00:32:52,929 --> 00:32:54,680 Mark, it's Marty calling again. 524 00:32:56,849 --> 00:32:58,225 Message deleted. 525 00:33:10,071 --> 00:33:11,697 FBI, Agent Shepard. 526 00:33:11,864 --> 00:33:13,615 Brian, it's Mark. 527 00:33:13,908 --> 00:33:16,243 Look, it's been hard for me to return a page... 528 00:33:16,411 --> 00:33:18,829 ...as I am out of the country at the moment. 529 00:33:19,330 --> 00:33:22,749 Listen, we need to know if you've had any further contact with Nakawara. 530 00:33:22,917 --> 00:33:26,086 I told you already that the guy stopped calling. 531 00:33:26,254 --> 00:33:30,590 Well, what about the price fixing? Have you been able to make any more tapes? 532 00:33:30,758 --> 00:33:33,719 I think you guys hanging around has everybody scared straight. 533 00:33:33,886 --> 00:33:36,221 The word is we're doing everything by the book now. 534 00:33:36,389 --> 00:33:38,932 Mick said it's over. No more price fixing. 535 00:33:39,100 --> 00:33:42,978 What? When did this happen, this conversation? 536 00:33:43,146 --> 00:33:48,066 Everything has changed. I got lysine up and running. The virus is gone. 537 00:33:48,234 --> 00:33:51,361 Mick brought me into his office, he sat me down. 538 00:33:51,529 --> 00:33:54,781 He said, "Whitacre, from now on we're doing things your way. " 539 00:33:54,949 --> 00:33:56,616 Mark. 540 00:33:56,784 --> 00:34:00,287 Look, Mark, the FBI knows about the crimes. 541 00:34:00,455 --> 00:34:02,956 We're gonna investigate either way. 542 00:34:03,124 --> 00:34:04,958 Either way? What does "either way" mean? 543 00:34:05,126 --> 00:34:07,044 We really need to get together. 544 00:34:07,211 --> 00:34:10,630 It is a different approach there now. l’m telling you, it's all... 545 00:34:10,798 --> 00:34:13,091 Everything's changed. 546 00:34:13,259 --> 00:34:16,762 My plane is boarding. I gotta go. I gotta go. 547 00:34:17,555 --> 00:34:18,972 Ah! 548 00:34:28,566 --> 00:34:31,318 - Everything okay? - Yeah, fine. 549 00:34:31,486 --> 00:34:32,819 Kids. 550 00:34:36,908 --> 00:34:39,409 - Where were we? - We were discussing bonuses. 551 00:34:40,078 --> 00:34:42,496 And we should be discussing Ferraris. 552 00:34:45,750 --> 00:34:49,169 You have Full federhaltertinte all over your shirt. 553 00:34:49,837 --> 00:34:51,630 Ow. 554 00:34:51,839 --> 00:34:53,799 One of the Japanese guys told me a story. 555 00:34:53,966 --> 00:34:55,801 This lysine salesman is in a meeting... 556 00:34:55,968 --> 00:34:58,595 ...with someone from ConAgra or some other company. 557 00:34:58,763 --> 00:35:01,139 And the client leans forward and says: 558 00:35:01,307 --> 00:35:05,310 "I have the same tie as you, only the pattern is reversed. " 559 00:35:05,728 --> 00:35:08,939 And then he drops dead, face down on the table. 560 00:35:09,107 --> 00:35:11,900 Alive and then dead. 561 00:35:12,068 --> 00:35:13,360 Brain aneurysm. 562 00:35:14,195 --> 00:35:17,656 Maybe everyone has a sentence like that, a little time bomb. 563 00:35:17,824 --> 00:35:21,576 "I have the same tie as you, only the pattern's reversed. " 564 00:35:21,744 --> 00:35:25,789 Dead. The last thing they'll ever say. Something like... 565 00:35:25,957 --> 00:35:29,209 High-fructose corn syrup. There it is again. 566 00:35:29,377 --> 00:35:32,462 He said that Andreas called him into a marketing meeting. 567 00:35:32,630 --> 00:35:34,381 He might be late. 568 00:35:34,841 --> 00:35:37,968 If he doesn't show, the government ought to charge him for the room. 569 00:35:40,888 --> 00:35:43,014 And here it comes. 570 00:35:47,478 --> 00:35:48,728 Shepard. 571 00:35:48,896 --> 00:35:52,399 I can't come to the hotel tonight. I'm still at work. 572 00:35:52,567 --> 00:35:54,151 Mark, this is the third time. 573 00:35:54,318 --> 00:35:56,820 I gotta go. I have work to do. 574 00:35:57,321 --> 00:36:01,658 - Mark, you can't keep canceling. - Look, I can't live two lives. 575 00:36:01,826 --> 00:36:05,412 They just offered me a $100,000 raise, okay? 576 00:36:05,580 --> 00:36:07,998 I'm not gonna lose my job because of you guys. 577 00:36:08,166 --> 00:36:10,917 I have a family. I'm building stables across the road. 578 00:36:11,085 --> 00:36:15,255 - But you told us... - The price fixing is over. It's over. 579 00:36:15,423 --> 00:36:18,633 Hey, Mick. I'm getting off the phone now. 580 00:36:18,801 --> 00:36:20,760 Mark, listen to me. 581 00:36:20,928 --> 00:36:24,806 The only logical thing for you to do is cooperate. 582 00:36:25,433 --> 00:36:26,558 What happens if I don't? 583 00:36:26,726 --> 00:36:30,854 Then somebody else will, and you'll end up being a defendant. 584 00:36:31,022 --> 00:36:34,691 The tapes don't say anything, because it's over. Mick said. 585 00:36:34,859 --> 00:36:36,443 We have a whole new policy. 586 00:36:36,611 --> 00:36:41,990 Fine, if that's what he said. Then I want to hear the tape. We need tapes, Mark. 587 00:36:43,367 --> 00:36:45,619 Okay, I never made any tapes. 588 00:36:45,786 --> 00:36:49,122 I never made any because there's not gonna be anything on the tapes. 589 00:36:49,290 --> 00:36:51,291 It's over, and they'd just be stupid tapes. 590 00:36:51,459 --> 00:36:52,918 - Mark, come on. - Look, how...? 591 00:36:53,085 --> 00:36:55,795 You tell me how I can prove it to you, and I Will. 592 00:37:39,298 --> 00:37:42,259 Mick Andreas and his dad would never lie for me. 593 00:37:42,426 --> 00:37:44,761 They say we're in it together. What a joke. 594 00:37:44,929 --> 00:37:47,847 Team-building offsite meetings at some lake in Wisconsin. 595 00:37:48,015 --> 00:37:50,558 I can't protect these guys if they're breaking the law. 596 00:37:50,726 --> 00:37:53,436 Hey, I tried. Anybody could see the choices I had. 597 00:37:53,604 --> 00:37:56,231 I did my best for ADM. You don't see them here in the chair. 598 00:37:58,526 --> 00:38:00,694 Hey, how'd I do? 599 00:38:00,861 --> 00:38:02,696 Mark, we have some problems. 600 00:38:02,863 --> 00:38:07,409 Wait a minute. I was looking at the thing. The needle didn't even move. 601 00:38:07,576 --> 00:38:10,870 Mark, you don't know how to read a polygraph. 602 00:38:11,038 --> 00:38:13,707 Well, first of all, they're not 100 percent accurate. 603 00:38:13,874 --> 00:38:16,042 Mark, you splattered the walls with ink. 604 00:38:16,544 --> 00:38:20,338 Come on. Extortionists just don't leave their name and number, then go away. 605 00:38:20,506 --> 00:38:21,881 I know it's tough... 606 00:38:22,341 --> 00:38:25,802 ...keeping it all bottled up inside, keeping it a secret. 607 00:38:26,345 --> 00:38:30,056 But there's only one good choice for you. That's all there's ever been. 608 00:38:30,725 --> 00:38:33,059 There's something you're not telling us... 609 00:38:33,227 --> 00:38:39,065 ...but the only way to protect yourself is to be completely honest. 610 00:38:46,907 --> 00:38:48,533 Okay. 611 00:38:49,744 --> 00:38:51,244 Okay. 612 00:38:54,832 --> 00:38:56,750 You realize... 613 00:38:58,461 --> 00:39:01,338 ...that this can all be used against you in a court of law. 614 00:39:01,505 --> 00:39:04,591 I'll have to write it all up, and you'll have to sign it. 615 00:39:04,759 --> 00:39:06,926 We're going to find out what's going on, Mark. 616 00:39:07,803 --> 00:39:10,722 You're not leaving this room until you tell us what's going on. 617 00:39:10,890 --> 00:39:13,266 So before you answer any more questions... 618 00:39:13,434 --> 00:39:15,518 ...I want you to think about Ginger... 619 00:39:15,686 --> 00:39:18,104 ...and your family, and your career. 620 00:39:20,941 --> 00:39:23,443 What happened with Nakawara? 621 00:39:24,028 --> 00:39:25,612 Is there a mole? 622 00:39:28,949 --> 00:39:34,287 Well, yeah, I think there has definitely been a mole, before, at ADM. 623 00:39:41,796 --> 00:39:43,463 - I made it up. - Jesus, Mark. 624 00:39:43,631 --> 00:39:44,881 I had to. 625 00:39:45,049 --> 00:39:48,259 Look, we've had problems with viruses at the plant... 626 00:39:48,427 --> 00:39:50,804 ...and we're way behind our projections. 627 00:39:50,971 --> 00:39:54,599 Dwayne is thinking about shutting us down and everybody's looking to me. 628 00:39:54,767 --> 00:39:57,811 It's all "Blame it on Whitacre. " That's how it is over there. 629 00:39:57,978 --> 00:40:00,230 We're talking about my job here. 630 00:40:00,398 --> 00:40:04,984 I came all the way over from Europe, relocated my family. They made me a VP. 631 00:40:05,528 --> 00:40:09,155 Uh... Uh... What about the price fixing? It isn't over, is it? 632 00:40:09,323 --> 00:40:11,157 I mean, there's no new attitude, right? 633 00:40:11,325 --> 00:40:15,161 It's been going on as recently as three weeks ago. Nothing's changed. 634 00:40:15,329 --> 00:40:18,581 It's not just lysine. It's citric, it's gluconate... 635 00:40:18,749 --> 00:40:21,876 A guy left the company because he wouldn't do it. He was forced out. 636 00:40:22,044 --> 00:40:24,129 The gluconate guy, he's out of a job. 637 00:40:24,296 --> 00:40:27,882 I met with the guys from Ajinomoto just last month in Chicago. 638 00:40:28,050 --> 00:40:32,345 The whole point was to actually set volume levels. 639 00:40:32,513 --> 00:40:35,390 You set the volume levels, determine what the market is... 640 00:40:35,558 --> 00:40:39,561 ...and then you figure out workable prices. We got another meeting next month. 641 00:40:41,021 --> 00:40:43,773 If there's anything else you want to add, now is the time. 642 00:40:43,941 --> 00:40:45,900 What else is there? 643 00:40:56,036 --> 00:40:59,539 Seven-thirty a. m., March 17th... 644 00:40:59,707 --> 00:41:01,374 ...1993. 645 00:41:01,584 --> 00:41:06,880 I have parked the car. I am approaching the entrance to the office. 646 00:41:08,382 --> 00:41:10,383 Entrance breached. 647 00:41:10,885 --> 00:41:15,054 Terrance Wilson. President of our corn businesses. 648 00:41:15,347 --> 00:41:18,475 Did our friend from Japan call last night? 649 00:41:18,642 --> 00:41:20,226 No, he wasn't in. 650 00:41:20,394 --> 00:41:23,897 Well, I spoke with Mimoto and he is pissed. 651 00:41:24,064 --> 00:41:26,566 He says there will be no peace in lysine... 652 00:41:26,734 --> 00:41:29,819 ...until we bring production down to the levels we promised. 653 00:41:29,987 --> 00:41:34,532 Well, in '92, we did exactly what we told him we would do in terms of volume. 654 00:41:34,700 --> 00:41:37,452 Exactly. Now, no promise. 655 00:41:37,620 --> 00:41:39,078 He says he wants to talk to you. 656 00:41:39,246 --> 00:41:44,542 Yeah? Well, I'll be right there saying, "Listen here, you mousy motherfucker. " 657 00:41:47,421 --> 00:41:51,883 That was Terry Wilson talking about setting volume... 658 00:41:52,051 --> 00:41:55,762 ...and price levels with our Japanese competitor... 659 00:41:55,930 --> 00:41:58,348 ...Ajinomoto Corporation. 660 00:41:59,016 --> 00:42:01,726 By the way, there was no discussion with Mimoto last night. 661 00:42:01,894 --> 00:42:04,354 I did that for illustration purposes only. 662 00:42:04,522 --> 00:42:06,814 I repeat, no discussion with Mimoto. 663 00:42:06,982 --> 00:42:10,902 Morning, Mark. - Good morning, Liz Taylor, secretary. 664 00:42:21,789 --> 00:42:23,790 - Please, come in. - Hello. Good morning. 665 00:42:23,958 --> 00:42:27,460 Good morning. Hello. Good morning. Good morning. 666 00:42:28,128 --> 00:42:30,421 Before we even deal with Latin America... 667 00:42:30,589 --> 00:42:34,467 ...we have to agree that we are gonna swap numbers. 668 00:42:34,635 --> 00:42:36,427 It's the only way this is gonna work. 669 00:42:36,595 --> 00:42:41,474 Keep everybody on target. It's possible to do. Got to be very careful. 670 00:42:41,934 --> 00:42:44,310 Need to check your phones. 671 00:42:45,479 --> 00:42:49,816 Excuse me, I need a comfort break. Pardon me. 672 00:42:58,576 --> 00:43:03,663 Side two, tape one. 673 00:43:04,498 --> 00:43:07,417 I've got well over two million frequent flyer miles. 674 00:43:07,585 --> 00:43:09,502 I'm pretty much platinum across the board. 675 00:43:09,670 --> 00:43:12,130 I get a letter from the CEO every year, thanking me. 676 00:43:12,298 --> 00:43:14,549 It's a form letter. It looks like he's signing it. 677 00:43:14,717 --> 00:43:18,261 They probably walk in and he signs like a hundred while he's on the phone. 678 00:43:20,848 --> 00:43:24,934 Oh, it went great. I think we're gonna be able to keep it at a buck and a quarter. 679 00:43:27,855 --> 00:43:32,150 Now what happens? Something you breathe in on an airplane, some bacteria... 680 00:43:32,318 --> 00:43:34,569 ...and now it's in his hands, the cup, the phone. 681 00:43:34,737 --> 00:43:37,947 Probably got it from his kids and now I'll spend the weekend with it. 682 00:43:38,115 --> 00:43:41,492 I'll miss a few days or Alexander will run a fever and who pays for that? 683 00:43:41,660 --> 00:43:44,704 Where does the FBI weigh in on that as a cooperating witness? 684 00:43:44,872 --> 00:43:47,498 What does it say about exposure to airborne contaminants? 685 00:43:47,666 --> 00:43:51,628 Tape seven, side two. Chicago O'Hare. 686 00:43:51,795 --> 00:43:55,381 Once again, Terry Wilson representing ADM. 687 00:43:55,549 --> 00:44:00,720 Representing Euro lysine, Alain Crouy and Philippe Rollier. 688 00:44:00,888 --> 00:44:02,889 That's a French company. 689 00:44:09,730 --> 00:44:12,899 That's a big break right there. Absolutely. 690 00:44:13,067 --> 00:44:15,401 There's no choices to be made, no debate. 691 00:44:15,569 --> 00:44:17,737 You're an ant, you just eat it. 692 00:44:17,905 --> 00:44:19,614 ...part of the world where it works... 693 00:44:19,782 --> 00:44:22,075 ...and the rest of the world where it doesn't. 694 00:44:22,242 --> 00:44:23,326 It will not last. 695 00:44:23,494 --> 00:44:26,746 - Terry, Alain, Philippe. - Hi. 696 00:44:26,914 --> 00:44:29,749 We obviously would play the game. 697 00:44:29,917 --> 00:44:32,919 - But the Koreans and the Japanese... - They cheat. 698 00:44:33,921 --> 00:44:35,088 Then it won't work. 699 00:44:36,173 --> 00:44:38,841 Well, you make it work in the other divisions. Tell them. 700 00:44:40,219 --> 00:44:43,262 Terry doesn't like me very much. He's got blotchy skin. 701 00:44:43,430 --> 00:44:45,348 What causes that blotchiness? 702 00:44:45,516 --> 00:44:47,016 It must mean something medical. 703 00:44:47,184 --> 00:44:51,270 He'll have a stroke and someone will say, "He was blotchy. It happens. " 704 00:44:51,730 --> 00:44:55,900 If prices went up in Europe, it's because we talked in Mexico first. 705 00:44:56,318 --> 00:44:59,362 That's right. You made it happen. 706 00:44:59,780 --> 00:45:01,739 It was our pleasure. 707 00:45:03,409 --> 00:45:06,119 Mark, these are just the kind of tapes we need. 708 00:45:06,286 --> 00:45:11,374 And we're getting our marching orders from Andreas. See? Goes right to the top. 709 00:45:11,542 --> 00:45:13,876 We need to improve the quality of these recordings. 710 00:45:23,721 --> 00:45:25,430 Hey, Rusty. 711 00:45:26,849 --> 00:45:28,141 Take a look at something. 712 00:45:32,771 --> 00:45:34,105 What do you think? 713 00:45:34,273 --> 00:45:36,482 That's a nice briefcase. 714 00:45:36,650 --> 00:45:38,151 But wait. 715 00:45:39,653 --> 00:45:40,987 There's more. 716 00:45:44,491 --> 00:45:46,033 That... 717 00:45:46,660 --> 00:45:48,327 ...is a Nagra SN. 718 00:45:48,871 --> 00:45:51,664 Had the Bureau custom-make it for me. 719 00:45:51,832 --> 00:45:56,002 Mark Whitacre, secret agent 0014. 720 00:45:56,670 --> 00:45:58,838 Why 0014? 721 00:45:59,006 --> 00:46:01,507 Because I'm twice as smart as 007. 722 00:46:05,012 --> 00:46:06,471 Ah. Thank you again. 723 00:46:10,893 --> 00:46:12,977 What happened to that girl who worked for us? 724 00:46:13,145 --> 00:46:15,730 Didn't she move to California? What was her name? Tina? 725 00:46:15,898 --> 00:46:18,441 Oh, Tina. Yeah, she's getting married. 726 00:46:18,734 --> 00:46:20,860 Ugh. My Tina's getting married? 727 00:46:21,028 --> 00:46:23,613 She's getting married two or three weeks from now. 728 00:46:23,781 --> 00:46:25,531 Oh-ho-ho-ho. 729 00:46:26,033 --> 00:46:28,326 Well, that won't last long. She's a bit of a dodo-head. 730 00:46:30,204 --> 00:46:31,204 She'll be back. 731 00:46:31,371 --> 00:46:35,208 I just hope she doesn't get pregnant and fuck up that body. 732 00:46:35,375 --> 00:46:38,377 She had a nice body. It'll ruin her tits. 733 00:46:38,545 --> 00:46:43,007 When polar bears hunt, they crouch down by a hole in the ice and wait for a seal. 734 00:46:43,175 --> 00:46:46,219 They keep one paw over their nose so that they blend in... 735 00:46:46,386 --> 00:46:48,137 ...because they've got black noses. 736 00:46:48,305 --> 00:46:50,765 They'd blend in perfectly if not for the nose. 737 00:46:50,974 --> 00:46:54,811 So the question is, how do they know their noses are black? 738 00:46:55,020 --> 00:46:56,854 From looking at other polar bears? 739 00:46:57,022 --> 00:47:01,859 Do they see their reflections in the water, and think, "I'd be invisible if not for that. " 740 00:47:02,110 --> 00:47:04,195 That seems like a lot of thinking for a bear. 741 00:47:07,699 --> 00:47:10,159 Remember to pat them down for wires before the meeting. 742 00:47:10,327 --> 00:47:11,577 What? New policy. 743 00:47:11,745 --> 00:47:13,538 Whenever we meet with the Japanese. 744 00:47:13,705 --> 00:47:16,541 You're kidding, right? I didn't get a memo. 745 00:47:16,708 --> 00:47:19,836 - I didn't get any kind of memo on that. - He's kidding. Relax, Mark. 746 00:47:20,003 --> 00:47:22,380 They don't have the balls to mess with ADM. 747 00:47:22,548 --> 00:47:25,591 When it's over, the board of directors at ADM is gonna understand. 748 00:47:25,759 --> 00:47:29,345 They're gonna see the position I was in. I acted in everyone's best interest. 749 00:47:29,513 --> 00:47:31,514 That's the only conclusion they can reach. 750 00:47:31,682 --> 00:47:33,933 I'm the youngest division president they've had. 751 00:47:34,101 --> 00:47:36,853 I speak a number of languages fluently. 752 00:47:49,283 --> 00:47:52,201 Would you like some coffee or fruits? 753 00:47:55,038 --> 00:47:56,539 No. 754 00:47:57,249 --> 00:47:58,583 No. 755 00:47:58,750 --> 00:48:00,418 Mark, no. 756 00:48:00,586 --> 00:48:03,796 - No. - I told him the camera was in the lamp. 757 00:48:07,134 --> 00:48:11,971 We already spend more than one year to get better market situation in lysine. 758 00:48:12,139 --> 00:48:14,140 We talked a little bit about it in Paris... 759 00:48:14,308 --> 00:48:18,227 ...but we need to come to an understanding on volume. 760 00:48:18,729 --> 00:48:20,813 - We have public shareholders. - Can you...? 761 00:48:20,981 --> 00:48:22,648 You need to widen out a little. 762 00:48:22,816 --> 00:48:25,109 We need to show them working together. 763 00:48:26,153 --> 00:48:27,445 Now the question is: 764 00:48:27,613 --> 00:48:30,698 If the market grows, who gets it? 765 00:48:32,075 --> 00:48:37,747 If Kyowa Hakko, Miwon and Cheil Corporation each get 2000 tons... 766 00:48:37,915 --> 00:48:39,498 ...we can divide up the rest. 767 00:48:40,876 --> 00:48:42,793 If we're gonna have any stability at all. 768 00:48:43,754 --> 00:48:46,839 We need... We need some specific number. 769 00:48:47,007 --> 00:48:50,635 Well, what would you be willing to accept? Isn't that really the question? 770 00:48:50,802 --> 00:48:53,679 ADM has already eaten all the growth. 771 00:48:53,847 --> 00:48:56,182 We have a lot more capacity that we're not using. 772 00:48:56,350 --> 00:49:00,144 We could be growing 20,000 tons. Isn't that right, Mark? 773 00:49:01,021 --> 00:49:02,897 I'm going in. We gotta shut this down. 774 00:49:03,065 --> 00:49:04,231 No, wait. Hold on. 775 00:49:04,399 --> 00:49:06,317 - I need your input. I think he's got it. 776 00:49:06,485 --> 00:49:10,029 ADM will be allocated its recent production, plus... 777 00:49:10,197 --> 00:49:11,447 They talk about Paris. 778 00:49:11,615 --> 00:49:13,157 I can't understand. The meeting. 779 00:49:13,325 --> 00:49:14,867 We have a big board of directors. 780 00:49:15,035 --> 00:49:18,245 They have a big board of directors. And shareholders. 781 00:49:18,413 --> 00:49:21,332 And they're all suffering together. 782 00:49:21,500 --> 00:49:25,628 Well, where's the agreement? I mean, this is just a discussion. 783 00:49:25,796 --> 00:49:28,339 If there isn't an agreement, what are they doing there? 784 00:49:28,507 --> 00:49:32,718 You're getting bogged down with the words. Just look at the actions. 785 00:49:32,886 --> 00:49:36,806 Look what happens right here. Okay? 786 00:49:36,974 --> 00:49:38,057 See what he's doing? 787 00:49:38,225 --> 00:49:42,019 Yeah, I've looked and I just see a chart with a bunch of words. 788 00:49:42,187 --> 00:49:46,232 I don't even see any numbers on that. I mean, I can't pinpoint an agreement. 789 00:49:46,400 --> 00:49:48,776 What more do you want? The guy is standing there... 790 00:49:48,944 --> 00:49:51,028 ...dividing up the market, plain as day. 791 00:49:51,196 --> 00:49:52,905 It could just be a proposal. 792 00:49:53,073 --> 00:49:56,826 All the other companies weren't there. No one used the word "agreement. " 793 00:49:56,994 --> 00:50:01,497 I'm telling you. From the perspective of the Justice Department, it is not enough. 794 00:50:01,748 --> 00:50:05,251 We're having another meeting to work out some of the issues in lysine. 795 00:50:05,419 --> 00:50:08,921 We have to divide up the volumes and set prices for some of the markets. 796 00:50:09,089 --> 00:50:10,715 Europe again? 797 00:50:11,133 --> 00:50:12,174 Europe is out. 798 00:50:12,342 --> 00:50:16,762 There is a price-fixing investigation in the cement manufacturing business there. 799 00:50:16,930 --> 00:50:19,390 It's got everybody spooked, so we're not going there. 800 00:50:19,558 --> 00:50:22,018 We can't videotape in Japan. That's not gonna help us. 801 00:50:22,185 --> 00:50:23,686 Hawaii. 802 00:50:24,896 --> 00:50:27,523 - Hawaii? - Hawaii. 803 00:50:36,158 --> 00:50:37,742 Oh! 804 00:51:08,482 --> 00:51:11,484 Okay. So everybody just... 805 00:51:11,651 --> 00:51:14,487 Goddamn it, Mark. Look at the size of this. That's bullshit. 806 00:51:14,654 --> 00:51:15,654 Yeah. 807 00:51:15,822 --> 00:51:17,406 Can you call and get us a bigger room? 808 00:51:17,574 --> 00:51:21,160 This is the only room they have. - Will you call them, please? 809 00:51:21,328 --> 00:51:24,955 I will. I will. Make yourselves at home, please. I'll call. I'll call. 810 00:51:25,123 --> 00:51:30,920 Do you have a suite perhaps that's a bit more roomy for us? 811 00:51:31,505 --> 00:51:35,591 The Makuaha Room. Yes. Is that your biggest room? It sounds big. 812 00:51:36,718 --> 00:51:40,012 But it is, I see. I see. And for the whole day? 813 00:51:40,680 --> 00:51:44,767 Okay, so this is it. We're here, we're stuck. 814 00:51:45,310 --> 00:51:48,979 Okay, then we'll make do. Thank you. 815 00:51:49,606 --> 00:51:52,191 Looks like we are here to stay, definitely... 816 00:51:52,359 --> 00:51:55,820 ...so let's settle in, and... 817 00:51:55,987 --> 00:51:57,279 ...start. 818 00:51:57,447 --> 00:52:01,700 Oh, no. 819 00:52:04,037 --> 00:52:07,706 Well, I'd like to welcome everybody here. 820 00:52:07,874 --> 00:52:09,375 Let me just... 821 00:52:09,543 --> 00:52:14,964 Indulge me for a second. I think you might be more comfortable if I move the chair... 822 00:52:18,093 --> 00:52:19,135 Thattaboy, Mark. 823 00:52:23,265 --> 00:52:28,185 We have an old saying at ADM. I think it applies here. 824 00:52:28,353 --> 00:52:32,022 "It's better to have the elephants inside the tent pissing out... 825 00:52:32,190 --> 00:52:35,109 ...than outside the tent pissing in. " 826 00:52:35,277 --> 00:52:37,278 Outside piss? 827 00:52:38,071 --> 00:52:40,156 It's better to be part of the group. 828 00:52:40,323 --> 00:52:42,908 What he's saying is, the customers are our enemy. 829 00:52:43,076 --> 00:52:44,994 The competitors are our friend. 830 00:52:45,245 --> 00:52:49,665 It's important we have all the producers involved, including the Cheil Corporation. 831 00:52:49,916 --> 00:52:53,586 I want to know why we have been excluded from association in the past. 832 00:52:53,753 --> 00:52:55,921 We need to be part of this. 833 00:52:56,089 --> 00:52:59,675 - Yeah. - How can we know that ADM Will stay... 834 00:52:59,843 --> 00:53:01,594 ...at agreed-upon levels? 835 00:53:02,762 --> 00:53:06,849 Well, it would be our preference that we simply trust each other. 836 00:53:07,100 --> 00:53:09,143 And if we find out someone's been lying... 837 00:53:09,311 --> 00:53:12,771 ...we'll just hire some Mafia figure to rub you out. 838 00:53:13,607 --> 00:53:15,316 That's just a little bit of levity... 839 00:53:15,483 --> 00:53:19,111 ...but the point is that if we can't trust each other... 840 00:53:19,279 --> 00:53:21,071 ...ain't gonna work. 841 00:53:22,282 --> 00:53:24,742 You are okay with that? 842 00:53:24,910 --> 00:53:28,120 Yes. I am all right. 843 00:53:29,331 --> 00:53:33,792 So, what are we saying? 844 00:53:35,045 --> 00:53:38,297 Well, what, do you have a language problem, Mark? 845 00:53:39,799 --> 00:53:43,469 Then we are ail... 846 00:53:43,637 --> 00:53:45,804 - Agreed. - Yes. 847 00:53:49,643 --> 00:53:51,977 Agreement. You heard it. 848 00:53:52,145 --> 00:53:54,355 - Congratulations. - Jury's gonna love that. 849 00:53:54,522 --> 00:53:55,898 Well done. You did it. 850 00:53:56,066 --> 00:54:00,986 Christ. How about this guy Whitacre? What's his story? 851 00:54:01,154 --> 00:54:03,822 - What do you mean? - What's his agenda? 852 00:54:03,990 --> 00:54:08,160 The guy's making 350 grand a year, moving up and he turns informer. 853 00:54:08,328 --> 00:54:12,039 When does that happen? Is the money going up his nose? 854 00:54:12,207 --> 00:54:17,002 Some woman somewhere with a kid he's seeing on one of these business trips? 855 00:54:17,671 --> 00:54:18,754 What's his story? 856 00:54:27,180 --> 00:54:29,139 We wanted to show you this. 857 00:54:29,557 --> 00:54:32,685 That's a picture of Mark Whitacre and his family. 858 00:54:32,852 --> 00:54:35,437 We carry that with us all the time... 859 00:54:35,689 --> 00:54:39,024 ...as a constant reminder that he is a real person... 860 00:54:39,276 --> 00:54:41,694 ...with a real family depending on him. 861 00:54:41,861 --> 00:54:45,114 The only reason we have any of these tapes is because of this man. 862 00:54:47,033 --> 00:54:49,285 We want to know when the time comes... 863 00:54:49,452 --> 00:54:51,203 ...if he loses his job... 864 00:54:51,705 --> 00:54:54,290 ...will the government stand behind him? 865 00:54:54,457 --> 00:54:58,585 Mark, are you an idiot? - Ginger, I'll be the only one left. 866 00:54:58,753 --> 00:55:02,548 Mick will be gone. Terry will be gone. Dwayne will be gone. 867 00:55:02,716 --> 00:55:05,551 I am a scientist and I understand the business side. 868 00:55:05,719 --> 00:55:07,594 I'm the only one qualified to run ADM. 869 00:55:07,762 --> 00:55:10,389 Mark, that's completely illogical. 870 00:55:10,557 --> 00:55:13,225 How can you stay there when you've taken down the company? 871 00:55:13,393 --> 00:55:15,227 Because they need me to run the company. 872 00:55:15,395 --> 00:55:18,981 First of all, I'm extremely valuable to the company. 873 00:55:19,149 --> 00:55:21,608 And secondly, I did the right thing. 874 00:55:21,776 --> 00:55:25,404 Okay? The board is gonna see that. The board's gonna respect that. 875 00:55:25,572 --> 00:55:28,991 It's the FBI, right? They're brainwashing you. 876 00:55:29,159 --> 00:55:32,745 It's Brian Shepard putting ideas in your head to keep you working for him. 877 00:55:32,912 --> 00:55:36,165 I'm telling you, they will make me the next president of ADM. 878 00:55:37,250 --> 00:55:39,418 So this is it, huh? Yup. 879 00:55:39,961 --> 00:55:41,754 How's your family doing? 880 00:55:42,005 --> 00:55:45,674 Good. They're gonna be at an amusement park when you guys make your move. 881 00:55:45,925 --> 00:55:49,011 Whatever happens tomorrow, I think it's in your best interest... 882 00:55:49,179 --> 00:55:52,348 ...to get an attorney who's gonna represent your interests alone. 883 00:55:52,515 --> 00:55:55,726 - You want me to get an attorney now? - No, not now. 884 00:55:55,894 --> 00:55:59,521 First, the company lawyers are gonna come to all the executives... 885 00:55:59,689 --> 00:56:01,774 ...with a list of attorneys to pick from. 886 00:56:01,941 --> 00:56:05,402 You've gotta understand, these attorneys are paid for by ADM. 887 00:56:05,570 --> 00:56:06,779 They don't represent you. 888 00:56:06,946 --> 00:56:11,116 Do not pick one of these attorneys. Tell them you have your own attorney. 889 00:56:11,785 --> 00:56:14,870 You need to tell them that you're cooperating with the government. 890 00:56:15,038 --> 00:56:17,414 It's perfectly reasonable for you to cooperate. 891 00:56:17,582 --> 00:56:21,085 I think I know a lawyer in Decatur. I'll talk to him. 892 00:56:21,252 --> 00:56:22,711 The town is too small. 893 00:56:22,879 --> 00:56:27,216 I'm sure you've met lawyers in your business dealings that could handle this. 894 00:56:27,384 --> 00:56:28,634 Definitely. 895 00:56:29,302 --> 00:56:31,595 Now, Mark? Mark? 896 00:56:32,055 --> 00:56:34,723 Once this starts, it is going to be intense. 897 00:56:34,974 --> 00:56:39,061 They are going to know that somebody was on the inside working with us. 898 00:56:39,229 --> 00:56:42,731 And they're gonna do almost anything to find out who it is. 899 00:56:42,982 --> 00:56:46,151 But you guys still think I'm gonna be okay at the company, right? 900 00:56:46,319 --> 00:56:51,323 I mean, you guys are gonna take down the bad guys, but I'll be okay, right? 901 00:56:52,325 --> 00:56:56,036 Well, I think it's important to remember... 902 00:56:56,204 --> 00:57:00,499 ...what we talked about before, and what we're talking about right now... 903 00:57:01,501 --> 00:57:04,086 ...is tell them... 904 00:57:05,255 --> 00:57:07,673 - ... you're cooperating with the government. - I know. 905 00:57:07,841 --> 00:57:11,718 But I'm just asking if you guys think I'm gonna be okay at the company. 906 00:57:11,886 --> 00:57:15,013 The corporate culture's gonna change a little bit for you. 907 00:57:15,181 --> 00:57:17,057 I should say so. 908 00:57:17,225 --> 00:57:19,893 - Yeah. - We should just focus on the raid. 909 00:57:20,061 --> 00:57:21,103 - Right? - Yes. 910 00:58:04,022 --> 00:58:08,400 - Mark, you're making that up. - No, Archer, the A in ADM... 911 00:58:08,568 --> 00:58:12,237 ...choked to death, 1947, on a chicken bone. 912 00:58:12,405 --> 00:58:14,364 Fact. Fact. 913 00:58:14,532 --> 00:58:17,534 Well, there you have it, from Mark Whitacre, Ph. D. 914 00:58:17,785 --> 00:58:21,163 You know what the Ph. D. stands for, don't you? Piled Higher and Deeper. 915 00:58:21,331 --> 00:58:26,043 Heh. Let me guess. Daniels was killed by a pig and the cows got Midland. 916 00:58:30,882 --> 00:58:33,342 A chicken got Archer. I'll tell you, 50 years later... 917 00:58:33,510 --> 00:58:36,428 ...our deals with Tyson Farms, Foster Farms... 918 00:58:36,596 --> 00:58:38,055 ...what's the body count? 919 00:58:38,223 --> 00:58:42,768 Mr. Wilson, Mr. Whitacre, I'm Bob Herndon and I'm an FBI agent. 920 00:58:42,936 --> 00:58:45,395 - This is Special Agent Shepard. - What is going on? 921 00:58:45,563 --> 00:58:48,273 - Mr. Whitacre, would you come with me? I don't... 922 00:58:48,441 --> 00:58:51,693 - I have no idea what this is about. - Mr. Whitacre, please. 923 00:58:51,861 --> 00:58:53,946 - Could you come with us? - Do I need a lawyer? 924 00:58:54,113 --> 00:58:56,240 A lawyer? Terry. - Excuse me. 925 00:58:56,741 --> 00:58:59,243 I saved a guy once at a restaurant in Hong Kong. 926 00:58:59,494 --> 00:59:02,913 He was choking and I got him to throw himself over the back of his chair. 927 00:59:03,081 --> 00:59:06,416 He sends me cards on holidays just to say thanks. 928 00:59:06,668 --> 00:59:09,169 Tells me what his kids are studying. He remembers me. 929 00:59:09,420 --> 00:59:12,381 You can take first-aid courses from your local fire department. 930 00:59:12,549 --> 00:59:16,260 You got a reason for embarrassing my colleague and I in front of a prospect? 931 00:59:16,427 --> 00:59:18,136 This is a serious matter. 932 00:59:18,304 --> 00:59:21,932 It involves an international investigation into price fixing. 933 00:59:22,267 --> 00:59:25,018 We have seen you and your boss, Mick Andreas... 934 00:59:25,270 --> 00:59:27,813 ...conspire with your competitors to fix prices. 935 00:59:27,981 --> 00:59:30,524 We have seen you tell others to do it. 936 00:59:30,692 --> 00:59:32,150 There will be indictments. 937 00:59:32,318 --> 00:59:34,486 Search warrants have been issued. 938 00:59:34,654 --> 00:59:39,825 And some people, people who you know and work with, will be going to jail. 939 00:59:40,952 --> 00:59:42,494 Look at that. 940 00:59:42,662 --> 00:59:46,039 Look at that. Look at Terry and Bob. 941 00:59:46,207 --> 00:59:49,376 Oh, I wish I could be a fly on that wall. 942 00:59:49,627 --> 00:59:52,546 Oh, hey, I was good, right? Didn't I seem really scared? 943 00:59:52,714 --> 00:59:54,214 I actually felt scared. 944 00:59:54,382 --> 00:59:56,466 Remember what we told you, all right? 945 00:59:56,634 --> 00:59:58,885 Tell them you're that cooperating first thing... 946 00:59:59,053 --> 01:00:02,514 - ... and do not take one of their lawyers. - Right. No. 947 01:00:02,682 --> 01:00:03,849 What'd you say to your guy? 948 01:00:04,017 --> 01:00:05,851 Nothing, I told him nothing. Slow down. 949 01:00:06,019 --> 01:00:07,352 Me neither. I said nothing. 950 01:00:07,520 --> 01:00:10,397 He said that he had price-fixing tapes. What the fuck is that? 951 01:00:10,565 --> 01:00:14,443 Well, I bet they have the phones tapped. I always said that. It's the phones. 952 01:00:14,611 --> 01:00:17,362 I can't believe they would pull this shit on Dwayne Andreas. 953 01:00:17,530 --> 01:00:19,489 Look, I get phone calls from time to time. 954 01:00:19,657 --> 01:00:21,241 I know, I know. 955 01:00:21,909 --> 01:00:23,118 Oh, God. 956 01:00:23,286 --> 01:00:25,662 We're going to the lawyers. I don't want phones. 957 01:00:25,830 --> 01:00:26,997 See? The phones. 958 01:00:27,165 --> 01:00:29,499 They hit everybody. My dad, Schmidt, Randall. 959 01:00:29,667 --> 01:00:30,709 Oh, fuck me. 960 01:00:30,877 --> 01:00:33,045 No, they played me a tape of me. 961 01:00:33,212 --> 01:00:36,298 Some meeting with the fucking Japanese. I called the lawyers. 962 01:00:36,466 --> 01:00:38,717 - We're gonna go there. - Yeah? They played a tape. 963 01:00:38,885 --> 01:00:42,554 - How the fuck did they get a tape? - I really don't think they have that much. 964 01:00:42,722 --> 01:00:45,098 When you factor in everything we've done for them... 965 01:00:45,266 --> 01:00:48,393 ...this will be a 10-year thing for the lawyers. Maybe a fine. 966 01:00:48,561 --> 01:00:52,314 That's all this is ever gonna be. Trust me. 967 01:00:54,400 --> 01:00:55,484 - How's it going? - Good. 968 01:00:55,652 --> 01:00:57,402 FBI. 969 01:00:58,363 --> 01:01:02,324 Yeah, he's here. I got Agent Temples for Attorney Mutchnik. 970 01:01:05,370 --> 01:01:06,578 This is James Mutchnik. 971 01:01:06,746 --> 01:01:09,081 Just interviewed an ADM employee, Kirk Schmidt. 972 01:01:09,957 --> 01:01:14,211 Schmidt knew we were coming. Says he knew about the raid days ago. 973 01:01:15,296 --> 01:01:17,381 He says Whitacre told him. 974 01:01:18,633 --> 01:01:19,758 Thanks. 975 01:01:19,926 --> 01:01:23,345 - He sees you sitting in the window and... - Bob. Brian. 976 01:01:23,513 --> 01:01:25,263 Can I talk to you guys for a second? 977 01:01:30,561 --> 01:01:32,938 That was amazing. You guys should have seen it. 978 01:01:33,106 --> 01:01:36,274 Oh, Terry was so scared, and Mick and the lawyers, they were just... 979 01:01:36,442 --> 01:01:38,151 - They were pissed. That's super. 980 01:01:38,319 --> 01:01:40,696 They thought you guys gave me the once-over. 981 01:01:40,863 --> 01:01:43,198 They're like, "You all right?" I'm going, "Yeah. " 982 01:01:43,366 --> 01:01:46,451 - Did you make a tape? - Yeah, I made a tape. A great one. 983 01:01:46,619 --> 01:01:47,911 Really good. 984 01:01:48,079 --> 01:01:49,871 So it's over, then. 985 01:01:50,039 --> 01:01:51,081 Mark... 986 01:01:52,250 --> 01:01:53,542 ...who did you tell? 987 01:01:54,919 --> 01:01:58,755 - What? - Who else did you tell about the raid? 988 01:02:03,344 --> 01:02:04,970 Well... 989 01:02:06,097 --> 01:02:07,764 I had to tell my secretary. 990 01:02:08,933 --> 01:02:12,602 Guys, I'm the head of the bioproducts division. 991 01:02:12,770 --> 01:02:16,106 She has to know where to get in touch with me. I told her months ago. 992 01:02:16,274 --> 01:02:19,818 So all I said was, "Liz, I'm doing some work with the FBI. 993 01:02:19,986 --> 01:02:22,028 I might be out of touch for a while. " 994 01:02:22,196 --> 01:02:26,491 That's it. She had no idea about our case. 995 01:02:32,707 --> 01:02:36,168 I'm pretty sure I've mentioned the name Kathy Dougherty a time or two... 996 01:02:36,335 --> 01:02:37,669 ...in my division. 997 01:02:37,837 --> 01:02:43,341 Kathy is a friend. She is a trusted ally. 998 01:02:43,509 --> 01:02:44,968 I didn't want her to be scared. 999 01:02:45,136 --> 01:02:48,013 Why would you do that, Mark? Why would you tell Dougherty? 1000 01:02:48,181 --> 01:02:53,018 Because I didn't want her to be scared. I trust her. 1001 01:02:53,186 --> 01:02:55,604 - Guys, we can trust Kathy. - Who else? 1002 01:02:55,772 --> 01:02:57,939 Don't jack us around, Mark. 1003 01:03:01,694 --> 01:03:03,361 Mm. 1004 01:03:03,654 --> 01:03:06,782 Kirk Schmidt. I mean, Schmidty... 1005 01:03:06,949 --> 01:03:10,160 Look, I was afraid that he wouldn't say anything to you guys. 1006 01:03:10,328 --> 01:03:12,746 That he'd clam up on account of he's loyal to me. 1007 01:03:12,914 --> 01:03:15,373 You could have ruined this entire operation. 1008 01:03:15,541 --> 01:03:17,834 Has anything gone wrong? Has anything gone wrong? 1009 01:03:18,002 --> 01:03:19,461 Time out. Time out. Time out. 1010 01:03:21,088 --> 01:03:25,467 Mark, you know what you did, in our eyes, was wrong. 1011 01:03:26,677 --> 01:03:31,056 - It was supposed to be a secret. Look, we can get past this. 1012 01:03:31,224 --> 01:03:35,101 But is there anything else that we need to know? 1013 01:03:35,269 --> 01:03:36,895 No. 1014 01:03:37,772 --> 01:03:39,397 No, not that I can think of. 1015 01:03:46,030 --> 01:03:47,739 Remember... 1016 01:03:47,907 --> 01:03:49,908 ...tell them you're getting your own lawyer. 1017 01:03:50,076 --> 01:03:52,577 I know about the lawyers, Brian! 1018 01:04:38,916 --> 01:04:41,793 Mark Whitacre, Aubrey Daniel. 1019 01:04:41,961 --> 01:04:44,588 Pleasure to meet you. I'm representing ADM in this matter. 1020 01:04:44,755 --> 01:04:45,797 Okay. 1021 01:04:45,965 --> 01:04:49,092 - This is John Dowd, a colleague of mine. - Good morning, John. 1022 01:04:49,260 --> 01:04:52,846 Dwayne has filled us in on your responsibilities here, so... 1023 01:04:53,097 --> 01:04:56,933 Aubrey prosecuted Lieutenant Calley after the My Lai massacre in Vietnam... 1024 01:04:57,101 --> 01:05:00,562 ...so this ought to be a cakewalk for him. 1025 01:05:00,730 --> 01:05:02,981 We were hoping you'd have time to talk to John. 1026 01:05:03,149 --> 01:05:05,650 - Sure. - ADM's behind you on this, Mark. 1027 01:05:05,818 --> 01:05:08,486 Dad and I want all the key people to know... 1028 01:05:08,654 --> 01:05:10,989 ...that we're gonna be paying all your legal fees. 1029 01:05:11,157 --> 01:05:13,658 Oh, great. Great. Thank you, that's great. 1030 01:05:13,826 --> 01:05:17,329 Then... Then we'll let you fellas get acquainted, okay? 1031 01:05:17,496 --> 01:05:18,580 Okay. 1032 01:05:20,833 --> 01:05:24,252 - How you holding up, Mark? Thanks. - Good. Please, sit down. 1033 01:05:29,216 --> 01:05:32,135 - John, can I ask you something? - Sure, anything. 1034 01:05:32,303 --> 01:05:36,681 If I say something to you, are you allowed to say anything to Mick and Dwayne? 1035 01:06:04,669 --> 01:06:06,544 Oh. Here we go. 1036 01:06:17,014 --> 01:06:21,226 I need to tell you I'm gonna be cooperating with the FBI. 1037 01:06:21,769 --> 01:06:23,353 They have hundreds of tapes. 1038 01:06:24,522 --> 01:06:26,523 They know all about lysine. 1039 01:06:27,608 --> 01:06:30,568 And John here agrees with me I should be getting another lawyer. 1040 01:06:30,736 --> 01:06:33,363 Oh. No question about it. 1041 01:06:36,701 --> 01:06:39,077 I want to say sorry for everything that's happened. 1042 01:06:39,245 --> 01:06:40,537 Sorry? 1043 01:06:41,747 --> 01:06:43,331 What's that? 1044 01:06:44,208 --> 01:06:46,543 It feels good to talk, to clear the air. 1045 01:06:46,711 --> 01:06:48,753 You get to be like a balloon after a while... 1046 01:06:48,921 --> 01:06:52,757 ...a balloon looking for a pin to bump into and relieve the pressure. 1047 01:06:52,925 --> 01:06:56,386 You could get sick from keeping it inside and get a tumor or something. 1048 01:06:56,554 --> 01:06:57,929 I didn't ask for that. 1049 01:06:58,347 --> 01:07:00,849 I have a friend from school who has a law practice. 1050 01:07:01,017 --> 01:07:04,185 And he's always telling me how they can't talk about their cases. 1051 01:07:04,353 --> 01:07:06,730 Like in The Firm. You can tell them anything. 1052 01:07:06,897 --> 01:07:11,067 They have to keep it to themselves or they get in a lot of trouble. They're boxed. 1053 01:07:11,235 --> 01:07:13,236 That's what they say: boxed. 1054 01:07:13,612 --> 01:07:16,489 So there wasn't a saboteur at all. You made that up? 1055 01:07:16,657 --> 01:07:19,492 Well, maybe there was. I mean, there could have been. 1056 01:07:19,660 --> 01:07:20,952 Okay. 1057 01:07:21,120 --> 01:07:23,038 ADM steals technology from the Japanese... 1058 01:07:23,205 --> 01:07:26,458 ...so I wouldn't put it past the Japanese to do the same thing to us. 1059 01:07:26,625 --> 01:07:29,127 But once I told the FBI that I'd made that part up... 1060 01:07:29,295 --> 01:07:33,631 ...they said I had very little choice but to be a cooperating witness. 1061 01:07:34,300 --> 01:07:37,802 And you began making tapes. How many tapes did you make? 1062 01:07:37,970 --> 01:07:41,056 There are over 200 tapes. 1063 01:07:41,474 --> 01:07:43,141 Ooh. 1064 01:07:43,476 --> 01:07:47,562 There are so many really nice people in the world, people who want to help out. 1065 01:07:47,730 --> 01:07:49,814 Good neighbors, good listeners. 1066 01:07:50,107 --> 01:07:52,067 Like when they had floods in Mississippi... 1067 01:07:52,234 --> 01:07:54,903 ...and people lose everything and are sleeping in a gym... 1068 01:07:55,071 --> 01:07:59,365 ...someone always shows up with a warm coat and a homemade pot roast. 1069 01:07:59,533 --> 01:08:04,037 That's why Ginger and I bought that girl a computer after she had the spine injury. 1070 01:08:04,205 --> 01:08:06,623 That kind of thing really makes a difference. 1071 01:08:06,791 --> 01:08:08,666 Jim here strikes me as that kind of guy. 1072 01:08:08,834 --> 01:08:12,295 He's the one-in-a-hundred guy who, when you come into the emergency room... 1073 01:08:12,463 --> 01:08:14,547 ...you thank your lucky stars it's his watch. 1074 01:08:14,715 --> 01:08:18,093 ...illegal campaign contributions, whatever. Whatever we're talking about. 1075 01:08:18,260 --> 01:08:20,678 So then I'd come back. Two nights a week or so... 1076 01:08:20,846 --> 01:08:23,807 ...Brian and Bob and I would get together, and we'd... 1077 01:08:23,974 --> 01:08:27,352 You know, we'd work it. We'd build the investigation. 1078 01:08:27,520 --> 01:08:29,938 Get everything we needed, gather all the information. 1079 01:08:30,106 --> 01:08:32,190 Then we went to DOJ, briefed those lawyers... 1080 01:08:32,358 --> 01:08:36,152 ...and before you knew it, we were hitting ADM, raiding the place, taking it down. 1081 01:08:36,320 --> 01:08:38,738 And for how long did you do this? Work as an informant? 1082 01:08:38,906 --> 01:08:42,367 Ahh, ooh. Two and a half years. 1083 01:08:43,202 --> 01:08:46,663 Two and a half years. 1084 01:08:46,831 --> 01:08:48,540 You know, and I always thought... 1085 01:08:48,707 --> 01:08:52,043 ...there'd still be a place for me at ADM when this whole thing was over. 1086 01:08:52,211 --> 01:08:54,420 I still have a lot of friends there. 1087 01:08:54,588 --> 01:08:55,630 A lot of friends. 1088 01:08:58,717 --> 01:09:00,385 Hey, Mark... 1089 01:09:01,011 --> 01:09:04,806 ...it's very important to your case you not discuss this with anyone else. Okay? 1090 01:09:05,391 --> 01:09:09,978 These people you work with, your friends, they could end up being witnesses. 1091 01:09:10,146 --> 01:09:14,023 Bob and I are the only people you talk to about this from now on. 1092 01:09:14,358 --> 01:09:17,485 All right? And I want you to know that you can tell us anything. 1093 01:09:18,696 --> 01:09:20,196 - Okay. Yeah. Okay? 1094 01:09:20,364 --> 01:09:24,534 Well, they kept coming to the house and they only had ADM's side of the story. 1095 01:09:24,743 --> 01:09:27,287 Did you talk to The Wall Street Journal, Mark? 1096 01:09:27,454 --> 01:09:30,748 What did you say? It's real important that you not talk to the press. 1097 01:09:31,041 --> 01:09:34,210 Me? I told them I had no comment, but it didn't matter. 1098 01:09:34,378 --> 01:09:37,422 They had the story anyway. They already had it. 1099 01:09:39,091 --> 01:09:42,552 Did you see my stipple portrait? It's pretty good. 1100 01:09:48,684 --> 01:09:50,435 Oh, shit. 1101 01:09:57,234 --> 01:10:00,778 I'd appreciate any comment you can make on the allegations on the TV. 1102 01:10:00,946 --> 01:10:03,281 Just a quick comment. What do you have to say? 1103 01:10:03,449 --> 01:10:08,536 I came out to tell you that I'm not allowed to talk to the press at this time. 1104 01:10:08,704 --> 01:10:11,122 At least any comment on the effects of your actions... 1105 01:10:11,290 --> 01:10:13,124 ...on ADM's declining stock prices? 1106 01:10:13,292 --> 01:10:16,461 What's been the reaction of your friends being taped? 1107 01:10:16,629 --> 01:10:19,756 Well, I'm a person of interest in an ongoing investigation. 1108 01:10:19,924 --> 01:10:22,592 Do you believe you and your family can stay in Decatur? 1109 01:10:22,760 --> 01:10:24,594 Has the government made arrangements to move you? 1110 01:10:28,641 --> 01:10:31,476 We're still getting the threatening phone calls. 1111 01:10:31,810 --> 01:10:34,771 And I know for a fact that Dwayne and Terry... 1112 01:10:34,939 --> 01:10:39,817 ...have been telling people that he wasn't a good worker and he can't be trusted. 1113 01:10:39,985 --> 01:10:41,819 We told Mark. 1114 01:10:42,112 --> 01:10:44,614 We told him that he had to expect the unexpected... 1115 01:10:44,782 --> 01:10:46,241 ...that he might be attacked... 1116 01:10:46,408 --> 01:10:50,119 ...that he wasn't gonna win any popularity contests for this. 1117 01:10:50,287 --> 01:10:53,331 Well, he just mopes around here all day... 1118 01:10:53,499 --> 01:10:56,918 ...watching the news, looking for a glimpse of himself. 1119 01:10:57,086 --> 01:11:02,173 Or he's calling someone from ADM, trying to get the latest gossip. 1120 01:11:03,008 --> 01:11:07,470 Maybe you guys should get out of town until the hearings start. 1121 01:11:07,680 --> 01:11:09,681 He's got to stop talking to people. 1122 01:11:13,769 --> 01:11:15,812 Well, the FBI never forced me to cooperate. 1123 01:11:16,021 --> 01:11:17,772 I don't owe Brian Shepard the truth. 1124 01:11:17,940 --> 01:11:22,485 I gave Brian Shepard two and a half years and now I have legal bills to show for it. 1125 01:11:22,653 --> 01:11:25,154 And I'm the good guy in this, the guy who took on ADM. 1126 01:11:25,364 --> 01:11:29,033 Is Brian Shepard gonna lose his job for that? His standard of living? 1127 01:11:29,201 --> 01:11:32,704 I've gone to the school on career day and talked about biochemistry... 1128 01:11:32,871 --> 01:11:34,831 ...and the career opportunities available. 1129 01:11:35,040 --> 01:11:38,209 Can Brian Shepard and Bob Herndon say that? I'm the white hat. 1130 01:11:38,377 --> 01:11:42,547 I did enough for Brian Shepard. Who's gonna take care of me? 1131 01:11:42,715 --> 01:11:45,466 Who has a plaque for the Mark Whitacre Environmental Award? 1132 01:11:45,634 --> 01:11:47,885 Where are your friends when it's dump on Whitacre? 1133 01:11:48,053 --> 01:11:50,388 Where's the pot roast and the warm coat? 1134 01:12:22,004 --> 01:12:25,131 You can see where he pasted it. 1135 01:12:25,299 --> 01:12:27,508 He's a fucking forger. 1136 01:12:35,601 --> 01:12:40,605 - Mark Whitacre. - Hello, Mark. It's Aubrey Daniel. 1137 01:12:40,773 --> 01:12:44,525 Listen, I'm here in Mick Andreas's office and we were wondering: 1138 01:12:44,693 --> 01:12:48,946 Does the name Lennart Thorstensson mean anything to you? 1139 01:12:50,366 --> 01:12:55,286 What about Nordkron Chemie? Does that ring a bell? 1140 01:12:57,998 --> 01:13:00,375 I'll have someone get back to you on that. 1141 01:13:00,542 --> 01:13:03,127 Oh, sure. You do that. 1142 01:13:06,465 --> 01:13:07,965 - He's going to call us back. - Sure. 1143 01:13:23,315 --> 01:13:27,777 My lawyer's telling me not to talk to you guys, but... 1144 01:13:27,945 --> 01:13:30,696 ...there's something I've been wanting to talk to you about. 1145 01:13:30,864 --> 01:13:32,532 Don't tell us anything. 1146 01:13:32,699 --> 01:13:36,953 You have a lawyer now and it's not like it was before. 1147 01:13:37,121 --> 01:13:39,497 We are not asking you. 1148 01:13:40,499 --> 01:13:43,334 Okay, what if I just put out some hypotheticals? 1149 01:13:43,877 --> 01:13:48,506 And, you know, I'll talk about certain financial situations... 1150 01:13:48,674 --> 01:13:52,343 ...and you guys can tell me if they're wrong or how serious they might be. 1151 01:13:52,511 --> 01:13:53,636 Okay, for instance... 1152 01:13:55,514 --> 01:13:57,014 ...what if... 1153 01:13:58,142 --> 01:14:02,061 ...a company gave an executive a car? You know, a corporate car. 1154 01:14:02,229 --> 01:14:04,689 And instead of driving that to work... 1155 01:14:04,857 --> 01:14:08,359 ...he drove his personal car and he gave the company car to his daughter. 1156 01:14:09,987 --> 01:14:11,529 Would that be a problem? 1157 01:14:13,407 --> 01:14:14,824 That's it? 1158 01:14:14,992 --> 01:14:17,201 That's the hypothetical? 1159 01:14:18,370 --> 01:14:20,496 That shouldn't be a problem. 1160 01:14:21,707 --> 01:14:23,166 Okay. 1161 01:14:24,293 --> 01:14:27,211 What if it was a corporate plane... 1162 01:14:27,713 --> 01:14:31,090 ...and the executive was using that for personal use? 1163 01:14:31,258 --> 01:14:33,384 Oh. Basically the same thing. 1164 01:14:33,552 --> 01:14:36,053 Maybe some IRS issues, but... 1165 01:14:37,347 --> 01:14:38,848 Okay. 1166 01:14:40,642 --> 01:14:42,518 What if... 1167 01:14:42,686 --> 01:14:44,687 ...it was standard practice at ADM... 1168 01:14:44,855 --> 01:14:49,734 ...for executives to regularly accept kickbacks in cash? 1169 01:14:56,241 --> 01:14:58,701 How much money are we talking about... 1170 01:14:59,244 --> 01:15:00,786 ...Mark? 1171 01:15:01,538 --> 01:15:06,042 Well, Brian, hypothetically, $500,000. 1172 01:15:06,210 --> 01:15:08,836 - How much? - It's the way things are done there. 1173 01:15:09,004 --> 01:15:12,507 Okay? I'm not the only one who was doing it. 1174 01:15:13,592 --> 01:15:15,218 Everybody's doing it. 1175 01:15:16,011 --> 01:15:18,930 When did this start, Mark? 1176 01:15:19,765 --> 01:15:22,099 December 1991. 1177 01:15:26,605 --> 01:15:29,106 You, uh, ahem... 1178 01:15:29,274 --> 01:15:31,275 How were you paid? 1179 01:15:32,569 --> 01:15:33,778 Paid by check. 1180 01:15:33,946 --> 01:15:36,155 A check is deposited in various accounts... 1181 01:15:36,323 --> 01:15:41,786 ...and always under the amount of $10,000. 1182 01:15:41,954 --> 01:15:45,540 And did any of these checks come in... 1183 01:15:46,750 --> 01:15:48,626 ...after we met? 1184 01:15:53,006 --> 01:15:54,298 Maybe. 1185 01:15:59,471 --> 01:16:03,015 Two-point-five million dollars, deposited into an account in Switzerland... 1186 01:16:03,183 --> 01:16:06,227 ...while Mark Whitacre was there on ADM business. 1187 01:16:06,395 --> 01:16:07,895 Now, we have sworn testimony... 1188 01:16:08,063 --> 01:16:11,107 ...from Mr. Lennart Thorstensson of the ABP Corporation... 1189 01:16:11,275 --> 01:16:16,445 ...that he has never seen this contract, and that his signature is forged. 1190 01:16:17,155 --> 01:16:20,992 Neither he nor his company have ever received this check. 1191 01:16:22,286 --> 01:16:24,370 Now, it is clear to us that Mark Whitacre... 1192 01:16:24,538 --> 01:16:27,582 ...driven by his own boundless ambition to take over ADM... 1193 01:16:27,749 --> 01:16:29,834 ...has attempted to frame his superiors... 1194 01:16:30,002 --> 01:16:33,129 ...in a price-fixing conspiracy of his own invention. 1195 01:16:33,297 --> 01:16:35,339 His cooperation with the government... 1196 01:16:35,507 --> 01:16:39,302 ...merely a smokescreen to hide his lying, cheating and stealing. 1197 01:16:40,095 --> 01:16:41,679 We have additional information... 1198 01:16:41,847 --> 01:16:45,141 ...that we are willing to share with Attorney General Reno... 1199 01:16:45,309 --> 01:16:48,352 ...that the money has since been moved to Grand Cayman... 1200 01:16:48,520 --> 01:16:52,356 ...with the full knowledge and complicity of Whitacre's FBI partners. 1201 01:16:53,358 --> 01:16:56,777 What are they accusing me of? I want the specifics. 1202 01:16:56,945 --> 01:16:58,946 Are they saying I'm in cahoots with the guy? 1203 01:16:59,114 --> 01:17:01,324 Paragraph 8 in our agreement with Whitacre... 1204 01:17:01,491 --> 01:17:04,035 ...states that his actions are directly attributable... 1205 01:17:04,202 --> 01:17:06,704 ...to the FBI and the United States government. 1206 01:17:06,872 --> 01:17:10,625 They're saying he stole two and a half million dollars while we were running him. 1207 01:17:10,792 --> 01:17:14,170 But how could we know what he was doing? He came to us. 1208 01:17:14,338 --> 01:17:17,214 The question they're asking isn't "How could we know?" 1209 01:17:17,382 --> 01:17:18,758 It's "Why didn't we know?" 1210 01:17:18,925 --> 01:17:22,303 No. The question is, "Were they price fixing?" 1211 01:17:22,471 --> 01:17:25,723 The investigation has shifted from ADM to Whitacre. 1212 01:17:25,891 --> 01:17:29,393 Ha. Of course. ADM decides Whitacre's a thief... 1213 01:17:29,561 --> 01:17:31,729 ...as soon as they find out he's working for us. 1214 01:17:31,897 --> 01:17:34,899 Who's counting money if they can lose two and a half million... 1215 01:17:35,067 --> 01:17:37,026 ...for years, then find it in a few hours? 1216 01:17:37,194 --> 01:17:38,235 We gotta call Mark. 1217 01:17:38,403 --> 01:17:41,405 I don't want you to do that. - We're taking you off. 1218 01:17:44,409 --> 01:17:45,993 That's it? 1219 01:17:47,579 --> 01:17:49,330 We're done? 1220 01:17:50,749 --> 01:17:53,417 I thought the FBI never hung a witness out to dry. 1221 01:17:53,585 --> 01:17:55,753 He's not a witness anymore. He's a target. 1222 01:17:56,046 --> 01:17:59,715 I only kept a million and a half dollars. And Mick knew about it. 1223 01:17:59,883 --> 01:18:02,551 He knows these things went on. Who do you think taught me? 1224 01:18:02,719 --> 01:18:05,596 You can't bullshit these people. Who knows what they know? 1225 01:18:05,764 --> 01:18:07,515 We gotta go in with the whole story. 1226 01:18:07,683 --> 01:18:11,602 It gets bad for you if you tell them you'll confess and don't. Then you're screwed. 1227 01:18:11,770 --> 01:18:14,271 This is it. What you have in front of you, that is it. 1228 01:18:14,439 --> 01:18:17,441 I've found every bank statement, every record. 1229 01:18:18,568 --> 01:18:20,778 Why would I hide anything from you guys? 1230 01:18:21,488 --> 01:18:23,072 This is it. 1231 01:18:38,630 --> 01:18:42,925 I haven't been telling you guys the whole truth, but I'm gonna clear that up in there. 1232 01:18:43,093 --> 01:18:46,262 - What? - No, we gotta get you out of here. 1233 01:18:46,430 --> 01:18:48,264 No, no, I want to tell. 1234 01:18:49,808 --> 01:18:52,685 Mr. Whitacre's conduct constitutes a breach of agreement... 1235 01:18:52,853 --> 01:18:54,145 ...with the U.S. government. 1236 01:18:54,312 --> 01:18:56,564 He is no longer a cooperating witness. 1237 01:18:58,442 --> 01:19:01,318 This is outrageous. My client has given you years of his life. 1238 01:19:01,486 --> 01:19:03,946 Clearly, he made mistakes, but he made your case. 1239 01:19:04,114 --> 01:19:06,741 We are not here to discuss the case against ADM. 1240 01:19:06,908 --> 01:19:09,160 Mr. Whitacre, my name is Ed Herbst... 1241 01:19:09,327 --> 01:19:12,496 ...and I am with the FBI's Economic Crimes Unit. 1242 01:19:12,664 --> 01:19:14,665 This is Mary Spearing and Don McKay... 1243 01:19:14,833 --> 01:19:17,209 ...from the Department of Justice Fraud Division. 1244 01:19:17,377 --> 01:19:19,837 And we were wondering if you could tell us... 1245 01:19:20,005 --> 01:19:23,632 ...when your criminal conduct at ADM began. 1246 01:19:24,426 --> 01:19:27,553 In early 1992... 1247 01:19:28,555 --> 01:19:33,184 ...I was taught how things are done there by Mick Andreas... 1248 01:19:34,060 --> 01:19:36,854 ...who showed me how to use embezzlements... 1249 01:19:37,022 --> 01:19:40,357 ...and kickbacks in order to make money tax-free. 1250 01:19:40,525 --> 01:19:41,859 My client is voluntarily... 1251 01:19:42,027 --> 01:19:45,946 No, I'm aware that the fraud that I perpetrated... 1252 01:19:46,114 --> 01:19:48,365 ...was wrong and... 1253 01:19:48,533 --> 01:19:50,201 ...I accept responsibility. 1254 01:19:50,702 --> 01:19:52,495 How did you receive the money? 1255 01:19:52,662 --> 01:19:56,332 By check. They would deposit the check to my account in Decatur. 1256 01:19:56,500 --> 01:19:59,210 They paid kickbacks in checks? 1257 01:19:59,669 --> 01:20:01,629 What company would pay kickbacks in checks? 1258 01:20:01,797 --> 01:20:03,923 Well, I don't remember the name of the company. 1259 01:20:04,090 --> 01:20:08,636 It was, like, Agra Consulting and Trading or something like that. 1260 01:20:08,804 --> 01:20:11,388 You don't remember the company that paid you checks? 1261 01:20:11,556 --> 01:20:13,766 It's hard to remember for me right now. 1262 01:20:13,934 --> 01:20:17,394 I have things going on in my life, in case you haven't been reading papers. 1263 01:20:17,562 --> 01:20:21,565 We're coming to you. We're cooperating. We're gonna get the money back. 1264 01:20:21,733 --> 01:20:25,736 I think this might help your memory. 1265 01:20:29,741 --> 01:20:31,909 Now, where did we get those? 1266 01:20:32,077 --> 01:20:36,413 These are ADM documents showing forging of signatures. 1267 01:20:37,833 --> 01:20:40,960 Didn't these people see The Firm? Or read the book? 1268 01:20:41,127 --> 01:20:44,922 It's all there. Everything they did to me, they did to Tom Cruise. 1269 01:20:45,090 --> 01:20:47,424 I'm not the one they should be mad at. 1270 01:20:47,592 --> 01:20:49,468 We can't see you anymore. 1271 01:20:49,636 --> 01:20:55,432 And if you call us and start to talk about the case, we'll have to hang up. 1272 01:20:55,600 --> 01:20:58,936 You can talk to us about your feelings... 1273 01:20:59,396 --> 01:21:00,980 ...but that's it. 1274 01:21:02,858 --> 01:21:05,568 Mark, please understand. 1275 01:21:06,444 --> 01:21:10,322 It's not what we want. We got no choice here. 1276 01:21:10,490 --> 01:21:15,119 You know, the thing of it is, all of my anger, all of my frustration... 1277 01:21:15,287 --> 01:21:18,247 ...stems from my work with you guys. 1278 01:21:18,415 --> 01:21:20,457 And all this crap in the paper... 1279 01:21:22,294 --> 01:21:24,211 My kids are seeing this. 1280 01:21:25,589 --> 01:21:27,798 And it's all just dump on Mark Whitacre. 1281 01:21:28,300 --> 01:21:32,970 Remember, Mark, we told you it would be impossible to predict... 1282 01:21:33,138 --> 01:21:35,472 ...what would happen when the case went public. 1283 01:21:36,266 --> 01:21:38,475 You never told us about the $5 million you took. 1284 01:21:38,643 --> 01:21:41,145 I don't see what that has to do with the price fixing. 1285 01:21:41,313 --> 01:21:43,939 He worked for you for two and a half years. 1286 01:21:44,149 --> 01:21:46,942 He risked his career, his home... 1287 01:21:47,819 --> 01:21:53,032 ...and now you just turn your back on him and leave us out here. 1288 01:21:53,658 --> 01:21:54,825 Yes, Ginger. 1289 01:21:54,993 --> 01:21:57,578 The reason we came here today... 1290 01:21:58,955 --> 01:22:03,167 ...is because we're concerned about your and Mark's well-being. 1291 01:22:04,127 --> 01:22:09,673 It's important you tell the people in Washington everything tomorrow. 1292 01:22:09,841 --> 01:22:11,467 One hundred percent. 1293 01:22:11,635 --> 01:22:15,846 You would have nothing without him, and you know it. 1294 01:22:16,765 --> 01:22:19,224 He's being used by the government, then thrown away... 1295 01:22:19,392 --> 01:22:23,687 ...because it's easier to go after Mark Whitacre than anyone named Andreas. 1296 01:22:27,192 --> 01:22:29,944 We took the kids one year to the Renaissance festival. 1297 01:22:30,111 --> 01:22:31,570 You get to be the white knight. 1298 01:22:31,738 --> 01:22:35,324 The kids get to ride a horse and joust against the forces of darkness. 1299 01:22:35,492 --> 01:22:39,161 The white knight always wins. The forces of darkness fall onto an old mattress. 1300 01:22:39,329 --> 01:22:42,873 Someone plays a lute and plays a song from medieval times. 1301 01:22:43,041 --> 01:22:45,960 It was 90 degrees, and the heat and humidity index... 1302 01:22:46,127 --> 01:22:48,295 ...I can't even remember what the radio said. 1303 01:22:48,463 --> 01:22:51,882 We were next in line and the mare collapsed, went down in a heap. 1304 01:22:52,050 --> 01:22:55,970 Ginger was eating Ye Olde Drumstick and she dropped it. The kids were crying. 1305 01:22:56,137 --> 01:23:00,015 And I remember this farmer saying he had a gun in his truck. Just like that. 1306 01:23:00,183 --> 01:23:02,601 From the white knight to a gun in the truck. 1307 01:23:02,769 --> 01:23:05,229 They had everyone turn before they put the animal down. 1308 01:23:05,397 --> 01:23:08,232 But even if you couldn't see, you could still hear. 1309 01:23:08,400 --> 01:23:10,359 How do you get that back? 1310 01:23:10,527 --> 01:23:12,569 How does that get to be fair? 1311 01:23:13,488 --> 01:23:16,073 Well, he just kept buying things. 1312 01:23:16,908 --> 01:23:18,909 We had eight cars. 1313 01:23:19,911 --> 01:23:22,413 Three of them we never even used. 1314 01:23:24,416 --> 01:23:26,166 And how else has he changed? 1315 01:23:28,461 --> 01:23:31,588 Well, I was always the one with the temper. 1316 01:23:31,756 --> 01:23:36,010 - Mm-hm. - And Corky was the happy one. 1317 01:23:36,177 --> 01:23:37,761 But that's changed too. 1318 01:23:37,929 --> 01:23:41,223 - There's one in Hong Kong. Mm-hm. 1319 01:23:41,391 --> 01:23:44,184 Then there are the accounts in Switzerland and Grand Cayman. 1320 01:23:44,352 --> 01:23:45,811 Right, right. 1321 01:23:45,979 --> 01:23:50,065 Other things. There's a lawyer in New York who's got a million dollars of mine. 1322 01:23:50,233 --> 01:23:52,443 Have you told your attorney about these? 1323 01:23:52,610 --> 01:23:55,195 No, I don't need to tell... 1324 01:23:57,282 --> 01:24:00,451 Mark, you need to tell your attorney about these accounts. 1325 01:24:00,618 --> 01:24:04,371 The assets were obtained legally. I don't even know if I can trust him. 1326 01:24:04,539 --> 01:24:08,125 Has anyone in your family ever been diagnosed with bipolar disorder? 1327 01:24:08,293 --> 01:24:10,419 You know, manic depressive? 1328 01:24:14,549 --> 01:24:16,925 I have an aunt that they used to say that about. 1329 01:24:17,093 --> 01:24:18,594 Yeah? 1330 01:24:19,304 --> 01:24:21,638 In terms of my parents, I can't be sure. 1331 01:24:21,806 --> 01:24:25,309 My parents died in an automobile accident when I was 6. 1332 01:24:25,477 --> 01:24:29,688 I was adopted by a wealthy man in Ohio. He owned amusement parks. 1333 01:24:30,190 --> 01:24:32,649 I caught a big break there, big break. 1334 01:24:33,234 --> 01:24:35,444 So my client's here to cooperate fully. 1335 01:24:35,612 --> 01:24:38,072 Agent D'Angelo, if you have any questions. 1336 01:24:39,074 --> 01:24:42,076 This is your chance to put everything on the table. 1337 01:24:42,327 --> 01:24:44,328 This is your chance to redeem yourself. 1338 01:24:44,496 --> 01:24:48,749 But if you're not going to be completely honest, just stop talking now. 1339 01:24:49,584 --> 01:24:51,668 I understand that. 1340 01:24:53,588 --> 01:24:55,631 I just want to tell you I feel... 1341 01:24:56,674 --> 01:24:59,009 ...bad. I'm so sorry. 1342 01:25:01,387 --> 01:25:04,598 The last time we spoke, I was under a great deal of stress. 1343 01:25:04,766 --> 01:25:07,226 And I said some things that weren't true. 1344 01:25:09,187 --> 01:25:10,854 I want to clear that up. 1345 01:25:12,357 --> 01:25:16,068 The first kickback was in 1992. 1346 01:25:16,236 --> 01:25:18,529 Mick knew all about it. 1347 01:25:18,696 --> 01:25:21,698 He told me there were gonna be opportunities to take kickbacks... 1348 01:25:21,866 --> 01:25:24,701 ...on some of the contracts coming out of Asia and Europe... 1349 01:25:24,869 --> 01:25:27,287 ...that were ADM contracts. 1350 01:25:29,457 --> 01:25:31,458 Was there anyone else involved? 1351 01:25:33,461 --> 01:25:36,630 So, Mr. Richter, we have... 1352 01:25:36,798 --> 01:25:41,885 ...money leaving your account here and here... 1353 01:25:42,053 --> 01:25:43,720 ...and here. 1354 01:25:43,888 --> 01:25:48,475 And it's going into Whitacre's account... 1355 01:25:48,643 --> 01:25:51,228 ...his wife Ginger's account... 1356 01:25:51,396 --> 01:25:54,231 ...and this is going to Whitacre's parents' account. 1357 01:25:55,316 --> 01:25:57,860 Like I said, those are loans. 1358 01:25:58,486 --> 01:25:59,653 Uh-huh. 1359 01:26:00,280 --> 01:26:04,324 He had me set up a company, Nordkron Chemie... 1360 01:26:04,492 --> 01:26:08,912 ...and just, like, issue these fake invoices to ADM. 1361 01:26:09,080 --> 01:26:11,582 And there was a bank account in Hamburg... 1362 01:26:12,667 --> 01:26:16,086 ...and so I would get a check for like two hundred grand... 1363 01:26:16,254 --> 01:26:18,839 ...and most of it would go back to Mark. 1364 01:26:19,924 --> 01:26:22,426 Ahem. Okay, look. 1365 01:26:23,803 --> 01:26:26,763 We know you're looking out for your friend Mark... 1366 01:26:27,640 --> 01:26:29,600 ...but your story doesn't seem true. 1367 01:26:32,687 --> 01:26:35,147 You're right, it's not true. 1368 01:26:35,315 --> 01:26:37,107 All the money went to Mark. 1369 01:26:37,275 --> 01:26:39,151 When did it start? 1370 01:26:39,319 --> 01:26:42,946 Mark told me about this Nigerian thing he got in the mail. 1371 01:26:43,448 --> 01:26:46,909 You know about these schemes with the Nigerian letters? 1372 01:26:47,076 --> 01:26:49,953 The 419 fraud? Yeah, we see it every day. 1373 01:26:50,121 --> 01:26:54,625 You get a letter from some official in Nigeria asking for a few grand to help. 1374 01:26:54,792 --> 01:26:57,794 - They promise a percentage of the money. - Exactly. 1375 01:26:58,338 --> 01:27:02,257 You ever wonder who was dumb enough to fall for something like that? 1376 01:27:05,094 --> 01:27:07,262 This is really embarrassing. 1377 01:27:08,890 --> 01:27:12,726 So how much money would you say you made from your illegal activities? 1378 01:27:20,985 --> 01:27:23,779 Seven-point-seven million dollars. 1379 01:27:25,573 --> 01:27:28,533 But like I said, Mick knew all about that, you know? 1380 01:27:28,701 --> 01:27:30,661 He endorsed that kind of behavior. 1381 01:27:31,996 --> 01:27:34,957 So not five, but seven-point-seven? 1382 01:27:35,124 --> 01:27:36,333 Seven-point-seven. 1383 01:27:36,501 --> 01:27:40,754 Jim, we all understand special consideration, but we've got your guy. 1384 01:27:40,922 --> 01:27:43,924 And these are cases we know we can convict. 1385 01:27:44,092 --> 01:27:47,177 Forty-five counts of wire fraud... 1386 01:27:47,345 --> 01:27:50,013 ...and money laundering and tax evasion. 1387 01:27:50,181 --> 01:27:52,975 So explain to us, where is the wiggle room? 1388 01:27:53,142 --> 01:27:58,355 I'm not stupid. Mark committed a crime. He stole nine million dollars. 1389 01:27:58,815 --> 01:28:00,357 That's pretty indefensible. 1390 01:28:00,525 --> 01:28:03,944 But these guys at ADM, they stole hundreds of millions of dollars... 1391 01:28:04,112 --> 01:28:06,321 ...from innocent people all around the world. 1392 01:28:06,489 --> 01:28:09,408 Mark showed that white guys in suits getting together... 1393 01:28:09,575 --> 01:28:11,702 ...that's not a meeting, it's a crime scene. 1394 01:28:11,869 --> 01:28:15,872 And not only did he tell you about it, he got the evidence to prove it. Ha. 1395 01:28:16,040 --> 01:28:20,544 When agents go undercover for the FBI, they get trained for the stresses. 1396 01:28:20,753 --> 01:28:24,464 We hear this all the time. How easy it is for a trained agent to crack. 1397 01:28:24,632 --> 01:28:29,052 I mean, here's Mark, a civilian, with no training. 1398 01:28:29,762 --> 01:28:31,638 But you guys just shove him in there. 1399 01:28:31,806 --> 01:28:36,310 You tell him to go for it without any training to make sure he doesn't crack. 1400 01:28:49,198 --> 01:28:50,407 Ah! Baby. 1401 01:28:52,827 --> 01:28:59,750 Ginger. 1402 01:29:02,795 --> 01:29:04,004 They kidnapped me. 1403 01:29:04,172 --> 01:29:06,882 They put me in a car. They drove me around for 20 minutes. 1404 01:29:07,050 --> 01:29:08,884 - They wouldn't let me out. - Oh, my gosh. 1405 01:29:09,052 --> 01:29:11,136 - My leg. - Oh, Mark. 1406 01:29:11,304 --> 01:29:13,263 It's all cramped. 1407 01:29:13,723 --> 01:29:15,265 Who did this? Who took you? 1408 01:29:15,433 --> 01:29:20,103 It's obvious. Look at my jacket. These people mean business. 1409 01:29:20,646 --> 01:29:21,855 I was abducted. 1410 01:29:22,023 --> 01:29:26,693 I was thrown into the back of a light-brown Dodge Dynasty... 1411 01:29:26,861 --> 01:29:29,613 ...by two thugs... 1412 01:29:29,781 --> 01:29:33,408 ...and driven around in a 20-minute joyride. 1413 01:29:34,077 --> 01:29:36,370 And basically, I was told... 1414 01:29:36,537 --> 01:29:39,664 ...you know, forget everything that isn't on tape... 1415 01:29:39,832 --> 01:29:45,212 ...and you can forget about bringing it up in a courtroom or for the media. 1416 01:29:45,380 --> 01:29:47,589 Did the men identify themselves? 1417 01:29:47,757 --> 01:29:50,217 I think we know who sent them. 1418 01:29:50,385 --> 01:29:54,638 And they sawed the locks off the door, like Mafia thugs. 1419 01:29:54,806 --> 01:29:57,808 Yeah, on each side, so I was trapped. 1420 01:29:57,975 --> 01:30:01,311 You were trapped. You couldn't roll down the window. 1421 01:30:01,604 --> 01:30:02,979 No. 1422 01:30:03,439 --> 01:30:05,941 Where was the FBI in all of this? 1423 01:30:06,609 --> 01:30:10,153 Well, I think... We think people have to realize... 1424 01:30:10,321 --> 01:30:13,949 ...that the FBI did the same thing. 1425 01:30:14,117 --> 01:30:17,119 I mean, they locked my husband in an investigation... 1426 01:30:17,286 --> 01:30:20,622 ...and they drove our family around for three years. 1427 01:30:20,790 --> 01:30:23,625 - Three to five years? - Yes. 1428 01:30:23,793 --> 01:30:27,629 In jail? But ADM's the bad guys. 1429 01:30:27,797 --> 01:30:32,509 Everywhere we go, it's the same story. It's just dump on Mark Whitacre. 1430 01:30:32,677 --> 01:30:34,136 You gotta focus here. 1431 01:30:34,303 --> 01:30:38,265 You stole $9 million, and then you lied about it. 1432 01:30:38,850 --> 01:30:40,350 Maybe in your head, you're good. 1433 01:30:40,518 --> 01:30:44,020 To them, you're a guy who stole a lot of money, and then lied about it. 1434 01:30:44,730 --> 01:30:47,732 Ginger and I have been talking and we'd like to file a lawsuit... 1435 01:30:47,984 --> 01:30:50,777 ...against Brian Shepard and the United States government. 1436 01:30:50,945 --> 01:30:53,447 Oh, my God. For what, Mark? 1437 01:30:53,614 --> 01:30:55,365 He hit me with a briefcase. 1438 01:30:58,119 --> 01:30:59,161 Mark, come on. 1439 01:31:01,414 --> 01:31:05,292 And he told me to destroy tapes that didn't help the case. 1440 01:31:05,460 --> 01:31:06,918 Why would Brian Shepard do that? 1441 01:31:07,086 --> 01:31:11,506 Maybe the question you should be asking yourself is, what is Brian Shepard hiding? 1442 01:31:12,508 --> 01:31:15,177 All right. I'm telling you, okay? 1443 01:31:15,344 --> 01:31:17,220 Take the plea. 1444 01:31:22,185 --> 01:31:24,519 Thanks, Jim, but... 1445 01:31:24,687 --> 01:31:26,813 ...we're gonna go a different way. 1446 01:31:29,942 --> 01:31:31,485 Evelyn? What? 1447 01:31:31,652 --> 01:31:34,779 There's a reporter from the Washington Post. 1448 01:31:34,947 --> 01:31:37,073 Has some questions about Corky. 1449 01:31:37,867 --> 01:31:39,576 A reporter. 1450 01:31:42,205 --> 01:31:44,206 This is Evelyn Whitacre. 1451 01:31:46,167 --> 01:31:48,418 What do you mean, adopted? 1452 01:31:48,920 --> 01:31:53,089 Well, as his mother, I can assure you... 1453 01:31:53,257 --> 01:31:57,761 ...that my husband and I were not killed in a car accident... 1454 01:31:57,929 --> 01:32:01,306 ...and Mark was not adopted by wealthy people. 1455 01:32:06,562 --> 01:32:11,441 Mark's been telling people that you and I were killed in a car accident... 1456 01:32:11,609 --> 01:32:14,736 ...and he was adopted by rich people. 1457 01:32:15,488 --> 01:32:17,072 What do you make of that? 1458 01:32:20,576 --> 01:32:22,661 That's kind of weird. 1459 01:32:23,746 --> 01:32:27,415 I read this study in TIME magazine when I was at Cornell. 1460 01:32:27,583 --> 01:32:30,210 There were people who never believed I would make it... 1461 01:32:30,378 --> 01:32:32,462 ...into an Ivy League school. Maybe Ginger... 1462 01:32:32,630 --> 01:32:34,422 ...who I met in the 8th grade. 1463 01:32:34,590 --> 01:32:37,634 And the study said that people had nice, sympathetic feelings... 1464 01:32:37,802 --> 01:32:40,637 ...about people who were adopted, and treated them better. 1465 01:32:40,805 --> 01:32:43,765 So I made up this adoption story and people did treat me better. 1466 01:32:43,933 --> 01:32:47,185 When I got a job, one of my professors told people at Ralston Purina... 1467 01:32:47,353 --> 01:32:51,064 ...I was this guy that had accomplished all of this in spite of being adopted. 1468 01:32:51,232 --> 01:32:53,984 So it was really other people who spread the story, not me. 1469 01:32:54,151 --> 01:32:57,821 I admit it was wrong to start it, it was other people who kept it going. 1470 01:32:57,989 --> 01:32:59,531 Even the people at ADM. 1471 01:32:59,699 --> 01:33:01,324 My new lawyer sees that. 1472 01:33:02,535 --> 01:33:06,454 Tsk. This all goes back many years... 1473 01:33:07,290 --> 01:33:09,958 ...before most of us were born. 1474 01:33:10,126 --> 01:33:13,336 It's bigger than any of us... 1475 01:33:13,504 --> 01:33:15,088 ...and it's ongoing. 1476 01:33:16,299 --> 01:33:19,050 I know you're skeptical, but I've seen it. 1477 01:33:19,218 --> 01:33:23,346 My client, Mark Whitacre, has shown it to me. 1478 01:33:24,140 --> 01:33:29,144 Maybe I am just a personal-injury lawyer from Taylorville, "Nowhere" Illinois... 1479 01:33:30,021 --> 01:33:31,896 ...but I tell you... 1480 01:33:32,064 --> 01:33:36,276 ...I know the identity of the master puppeteer. 1481 01:33:38,988 --> 01:33:42,532 - The who? - The master puppeteer. 1482 01:33:42,700 --> 01:33:44,326 And it's not who you're thinking. 1483 01:33:44,493 --> 01:33:49,205 Mark has tapes, tapes that the government doesn't want us to hear. 1484 01:33:49,373 --> 01:33:52,667 Tapes that outline the actions of Brian Shepard... 1485 01:33:52,835 --> 01:33:55,253 ...who hit Mark Whitacre with a briefcase... 1486 01:33:55,421 --> 01:33:58,173 ...while Mark was cooperating with the government. 1487 01:33:58,341 --> 01:34:01,676 My client has a letter from his psychiatrist... 1488 01:34:01,927 --> 01:34:08,391 ...outlining and confirming the cruelty perpetrated on him by Brian Shepard. 1489 01:34:09,185 --> 01:34:14,939 A letter from his psychiatrist clearly exonerating my client from all wrongdoing. 1490 01:34:17,735 --> 01:34:21,696 "It is obvious that the FBI made some grand mistakes... 1491 01:34:21,864 --> 01:34:24,616 ...in how they handled and treated you. " There's a phrase... 1492 01:34:24,784 --> 01:34:27,744 "Grand mistakes. " ... coming from a doctor. 1493 01:34:27,912 --> 01:34:30,413 "When one discusses suicide, this is a red flag. 1494 01:34:30,581 --> 01:34:33,875 When one discusses how they will do it, then it is very, very serious. 1495 01:34:34,043 --> 01:34:37,545 I also feel that the FBI requiring you to do unethical conduct... 1496 01:34:37,713 --> 01:34:39,964 ...against ADM was another blunder... 1497 01:34:40,216 --> 01:34:43,176 ...that forced you into a bipolar situation. 1498 01:34:43,344 --> 01:34:46,763 They should have known better and noted that a medical problem exists. 1499 01:34:46,931 --> 01:34:51,893 From a medical point of view, this is attempted murder that the FBI did to you. 1500 01:34:52,061 --> 01:34:55,105 From a legal view, your lawyer needs to decide what to do... 1501 01:34:55,272 --> 01:34:58,525 ...and what the terminology is. I'll support you in whatever you need. 1502 01:34:58,693 --> 01:35:02,195 You and your family have been through too much turmoil with the government. 1503 01:35:02,363 --> 01:35:03,947 They should know better. " 1504 01:35:05,950 --> 01:35:07,951 That's Dr. Miller. 1505 01:35:08,786 --> 01:35:10,954 I read the letter, Mark. 1506 01:35:11,914 --> 01:35:14,290 The problem with the letter is... 1507 01:35:15,251 --> 01:35:16,918 ...it's a lie. 1508 01:35:17,920 --> 01:35:19,629 What are you talking about, Brian? 1509 01:35:20,131 --> 01:35:23,633 It's on his letterhead. That's his signature. 1510 01:35:23,801 --> 01:35:27,554 - What are you talking about? - The area code, Mark. 1511 01:35:28,347 --> 01:35:32,642 In the letterhead? The area code 847? 1512 01:35:33,561 --> 01:35:36,646 This letter was written in November 1995. 1513 01:35:36,814 --> 01:35:39,941 That area code didn't exist then. 1514 01:35:42,611 --> 01:35:47,449 Okay, but they announced that the change was coming. I even remember that. 1515 01:35:47,616 --> 01:35:51,828 - People order their stationery early. I thought about that. 1516 01:35:51,996 --> 01:35:53,913 So I asked the phone company. 1517 01:35:57,460 --> 01:36:02,672 This is the press release announcing the new 847 area code. 1518 01:36:02,840 --> 01:36:06,843 It's dated six days after your letter was written. 1519 01:36:07,011 --> 01:36:10,346 Miller could not have known about it. 1520 01:36:15,144 --> 01:36:18,688 Ron Henkoff from Fortune called Dr. Miller and Miller confirmed the letter. 1521 01:36:18,856 --> 01:36:20,982 If you talk to Henkoff... 1522 01:36:24,528 --> 01:36:28,364 Ron Henkoff from Fortune magazine... 1523 01:36:29,658 --> 01:36:32,494 ...verified the letter with Dr. Miller. 1524 01:36:32,661 --> 01:36:35,622 - I talked to Dr. Miller, Mark. You can't... 1525 01:36:35,790 --> 01:36:38,458 That's a violation of my doctor-patient confidentiality. 1526 01:36:38,626 --> 01:36:43,546 That's a total violation of my doctor-patient confidentiality. You can't call Miller. 1527 01:36:43,714 --> 01:36:48,134 Doctor-patient confidentiality doesn't apply to forgeries. 1528 01:36:48,302 --> 01:36:52,055 Then why did Fortune magazine run the story? 1529 01:36:52,223 --> 01:36:55,350 Well, why would Ron Henkoff, for Fortune magazine... 1530 01:36:55,518 --> 01:36:57,685 ...put it in a cover story? 1531 01:36:57,853 --> 01:36:59,229 Stop it, Mark. 1532 01:37:00,189 --> 01:37:02,524 Henk... If you talk to Henkoff... 1533 01:37:02,691 --> 01:37:04,984 You need to stop doing this to yourself. 1534 01:37:07,238 --> 01:37:10,198 Why do you...? Why do you keep lying? 1535 01:37:12,785 --> 01:37:14,702 I don't know. 1536 01:37:21,502 --> 01:37:24,671 Well, I think maybe I should go back to the hospital. 1537 01:37:29,969 --> 01:37:36,724 Case 97-2001, United States of America v. Mark Whitacre. 1538 01:37:37,893 --> 01:37:40,436 You have a right to make a statement, if you wish. 1539 01:37:45,818 --> 01:37:47,277 Thank you. 1540 01:37:49,321 --> 01:37:54,117 Uh... I really appreciate the opportunity... 1541 01:37:54,285 --> 01:37:58,496 ...to get up here and say a few words. Um... 1542 01:38:01,625 --> 01:38:03,167 Wow. 1543 01:38:03,961 --> 01:38:05,461 What a ride. 1544 01:38:06,046 --> 01:38:07,463 Um... 1545 01:38:08,007 --> 01:38:09,799 Been a long five years. 1546 01:38:11,594 --> 01:38:13,469 A lot of memories. 1547 01:38:15,598 --> 01:38:19,809 I just really want to apologize to a lot of people in this room... 1548 01:38:19,977 --> 01:38:23,813 ...and a lot of people who aren't in this room, um... 1549 01:38:24,607 --> 01:38:26,774 ...for my actions. 1550 01:38:27,860 --> 01:38:30,111 I'm on medication now... 1551 01:38:30,279 --> 01:38:33,990 ...so I'm seeing things a lot more clearly. 1552 01:38:34,158 --> 01:38:37,952 And I just really want to... 1553 01:38:38,120 --> 01:38:40,914 I realize I hurt a lot of people, and so I want to say: 1554 01:38:41,081 --> 01:38:43,666 I'm so, so, so sorry. I greatly apologize... 1555 01:38:44,293 --> 01:38:49,005 ...and accept responsibility for my actions. That's it. 1556 01:38:49,173 --> 01:38:50,924 Thank you. 1557 01:38:52,968 --> 01:38:58,598 To observe that Mr. Whitacre is not the usual felon is a gross understatement. 1558 01:38:59,308 --> 01:39:00,850 He's well-educated... 1559 01:39:01,018 --> 01:39:05,647 ...has a loving wife and family, is well-respected in the community. 1560 01:39:05,814 --> 01:39:08,358 It's not inconceivable that, in due course... 1561 01:39:08,525 --> 01:39:13,529 ...he could have been CEO of Archer Daniels Midland. 1562 01:39:13,697 --> 01:39:17,116 However, this court... 1563 01:39:18,077 --> 01:39:22,205 ...can find no clear connection between Mr. Whitacre's bipolar disorder... 1564 01:39:22,373 --> 01:39:26,250 ...and the 45 counts of criminal misconduct he's been charged with... 1565 01:39:26,418 --> 01:39:28,127 ...just garden-variety greed. 1566 01:39:28,295 --> 01:39:31,756 It's very difficult to tell when Mr. Whitacre is telling the truth. 1567 01:39:33,342 --> 01:39:35,093 I don't think what happened is fair... 1568 01:39:35,260 --> 01:39:38,304 ...when you look at me compared to Mick and Terry. 1569 01:39:39,682 --> 01:39:42,392 If you go and hold up your local grocery store... 1570 01:39:42,559 --> 01:39:44,519 ...you get maybe five years in prison. 1571 01:39:44,687 --> 01:39:49,774 Mick and Terry held up every grocery store in the world and they got three. 1572 01:39:50,025 --> 01:39:53,236 So you tell me how it makes sense that I get nine. 1573 01:39:54,154 --> 01:39:56,072 You should consider that, Mr. President... 1574 01:39:56,240 --> 01:39:59,033 ...when reviewing this request for pardon. 1575 01:39:59,451 --> 01:40:01,452 I'd also like to take this opportunity... 1576 01:40:01,620 --> 01:40:05,039 ...to apologize on behalf of myself and my wife, Ginger... 1577 01:40:05,207 --> 01:40:07,083 ...to Special Agent Brian Shepard. 1578 01:40:07,251 --> 01:40:11,587 He never hit me with a briefcase or told me to destroy tapes. 1579 01:40:11,755 --> 01:40:16,467 The idea to sue him came from someone inside ADM. 1580 01:40:16,635 --> 01:40:19,429 I shouldn't have listened. I don't even remember who it was. 1581 01:40:20,389 --> 01:40:25,435 While I was there at ADM, I lived so many lives, I didn't really know who I was. 1582 01:40:26,145 --> 01:40:31,107 And I know today more who I am and what I really want out of life. 1583 01:40:31,275 --> 01:40:36,362 I've completed three postgraduate degrees while in detention... 1584 01:40:36,530 --> 01:40:39,407 ...a J.D., which is, of course, a law degree... 1585 01:40:39,575 --> 01:40:42,785 ...another advanced degree in the psychology of jury selection. 1586 01:40:43,328 --> 01:40:46,622 I sleep better here in prison than I have in years. 1587 01:40:46,790 --> 01:40:49,876 My wife, Ginger, has forgiven me. 1588 01:40:50,669 --> 01:40:53,171 She actually believes that this incident with ADM... 1589 01:40:53,422 --> 01:40:57,467 ...brought us closer together in a marriage of over 20 years. 1590 01:40:57,885 --> 01:40:59,844 And I hope you'll allow me to leave here... 1591 01:41:00,012 --> 01:41:03,723 ...so that I can rejoin that life with my family, my three kids... 1592 01:41:03,891 --> 01:41:05,266 ...two of whom are adopted. 1593 01:41:05,768 --> 01:41:09,729 Especially in light of the fact that in large part because of my testimony... 1594 01:41:09,897 --> 01:41:13,024 ...the United States government has to date been able to collect... 1595 01:41:13,192 --> 01:41:17,153 ...over one billion dollars in price-fixing fines from big businesses. 1596 01:41:17,946 --> 01:41:20,782 So that's it. Thanks. 1597 01:41:31,668 --> 01:41:33,461 Good luck with the pardon, Mark. 1598 01:41:33,629 --> 01:41:37,131 Thanks, Bob. Thanks for helping me remember everything. 1599 01:41:37,299 --> 01:41:39,217 I wish Brian could have come. 1600 01:41:39,468 --> 01:41:43,221 - Well, he's still pretty angry. - Yeah. 1601 01:41:43,388 --> 01:41:46,724 Well, tell him I'm real sorry. Will you do that? 1602 01:41:46,892 --> 01:41:48,184 Sure, Mark. 1603 01:41:48,352 --> 01:41:50,686 The irony is if I hadn't gone undercover... 1604 01:41:50,854 --> 01:41:54,482 ...I never would have stole the 11 and a half million. It was my way out. 1605 01:41:54,650 --> 01:41:57,985 It was my severance. What else was I gonna do? I had to write my own. 1606 01:41:58,153 --> 01:41:59,654 Work detail. 1607 01:42:00,322 --> 01:42:01,656 See you, Bob. 1608 01:42:01,907 --> 01:42:04,700 - Eleven and a half million? - What? 1609 01:42:04,868 --> 01:42:06,786 I thought it was nine and a half. 1610 01:42:06,954 --> 01:42:09,705 - What did I say? - You said 11 and a half. 1611 01:42:09,873 --> 01:42:13,709 You do know that the people at ADM think you were the mole. 1612 01:42:13,877 --> 01:42:17,255 That you planted the virus, then made it go away. 1613 01:42:17,506 --> 01:42:20,383 The 11 and a half is with the interest. 1614 01:42:21,343 --> 01:42:24,345 Mark, is it nine and a half or 11 and a half? 1615 01:42:25,722 --> 01:42:27,431 I don't know, Bob. 1616 01:42:28,517 --> 01:42:29,725 You tell me.