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(PHONE RINGING)
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(INDISTINCT CHATTER)
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(VOICES MUMBLING INDISTINCTLY)
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(INDISTINCT CHATTER)
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(PHONE RINGING)
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(INDISTINCT CHATTER)
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So?
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This is the only alligator.
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Four minutes past.
We walk in one minute.
He was clear on that.
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He's coming.
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No, he's too young
to have that kind
of access.
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Uh, what time does
the restaurant open?
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Noon. But the food's
a little too spicy.
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This way.
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MAN: Excuse me.
Uh-huh.
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MAN: Thank you.
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(ELEVATOR BELL DINGS)
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Right here.
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(SIGHS) It's, uh,
really great to finally
meet you guys.
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So, first thing,
can I get your
cell phones, please?
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Thank you.
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We want Laura to be
the only one recording, right?
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As discussed? Thank you.
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I actually bought this.
It blocks UHF frequencies.
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(CAMERA BEEPS)
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You've been
photographed before, right?
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Yeah, it's been a while
since anybody took
a photo of me, so... (LAUGHS)
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AURA: Try thinking of
this as your friend.
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(BREATHES DEEPLY)
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Take your time.
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(INHALES DEEPLY) Um...
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Can you start by telling us
why you did what you did
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and, uh, how you gained access
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to such a vast
amount of information,
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all of which I read
on the plane
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and...
Glenn.
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Uh' how about we just start
with your name? Okay?
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(INHALES DEEPLY)
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My name is
Edward Joseph Snowden.
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Fm 29 years ski.
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I work as a private
contractor for the NSA.
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I've also worked as
a private contractor
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for the CIA and directly
for the Agency.
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We worked in various jobs
in the intelligence industry
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for the last nine years.
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I've been
a systems engineer, uh,
been a solutions consultant...
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Uh...
(ALL CALLING CADENCE)
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SNOWDEN: And a senior adviser
for the Central
Intelligence Agency.
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RECRUIT: Rangers...
DRILL SERGEANT: Rangers...
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RECRUITS: Rangers...
RECRUIT: Rangers...
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DRILL SERGEANT: So you
wanna be Special Forces?
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RECRUITS: Sir, yes, sir!
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I think Special Forces
would be ashamed
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to call you soldiers.
Am I right?
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RECRUITS: Sir, no, sir!
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DRILL SERGEANT: Your left.
Your left, right. Your left.
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DRILL SERGEANTI (SINGING)
Went from driving Cadillacs
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RECRUWS'.
Went from driving Cadillacs
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DRILL SERGEANT:
To driving convoys in Iraq
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RECRUITS:
To driving convoys in Iraq
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TRAINER: Move it, soldier!
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(RECRUITS GRUNTING, PANTING)
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TRAINER: Go! Go!
Move now!
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TRAINERS: Move!
You better get going!
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Pick it up,
you waste of space!
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DRILL SERGEANT: Let's move!
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TRAINER: Come on, soldier! Go!
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Come on, darling!
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(SHOUTING) Snowden?
What the hell are you doing?
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Nothing, sir!
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Where is your
fucking heart?
Right here, sir!
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I want you to reach
way down in that pathetic
excuse of a chest,
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and you rip it out.
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You find your heart,
and then you get
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your broke ass on my tower!
You got that?
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Sir, yes, sir!
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DRILL SERGEANT:
Now get the fuck
out of my face!
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I need you on my tower,
gentlemen! Let's move!
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TRAINER: Move! Move! Let's go!
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(BANGING ON DOOR}
DRILL SERGEANT: (SHOUTING)
Rise and shine, maggots!
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Get your hands off your dicks,
and get the fuck
out of my barracks!
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You guys got one minute!
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Fall out! Move, move, move!
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Gel the hell out here!
Get the hell out
of my barracks!
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(LOUD THUD)
(GASPS)
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DRILL SERGEANT: Move it!
Keep moving!
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Let's go!
All right, gentlemen.
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(RECRUITS GRUNTING)
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DRILL SERGEANT: Harrison?
RECRUIT: Here!
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DRILL SERGEANT: Carson?
RECRUIT: Here!
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DRILL SERGEANT: Ramirez'?
RECRUIT: Here!
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(SHOUTS) Fuck!
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DRILL SERGEANT: Pierce?
RECRUIT: Here!
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DRILL SERGEANT: Coulson?
Help!
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DRILL SERGEANT: Snowden!
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Snowden!
Where the fuck is Snowden?
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Help! (SIGHS)
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DOCTOR: You know, you've
been walking around
on two broken legs...
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Best I can tell, for weeks.
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Now this is what happens
when you put
a SU-pound rucksack
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on a 150-pound body.
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You get these little
stress fractures and...
(G ROANS)
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Easy.
Sorry.
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They build up
in yourtibias.
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You don't get off of 'em,
and eventually they just bust.
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Now, you're gonna be
here for a few weeks,
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and then I'd count on
another eight weeks or so
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on the crutches.
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SNQWDEN: Okay,
and then when do I go back?
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Son, you ever again
land on those legs of yours,
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airborne or not,
those bones will
turn to powder.
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I'm gonna authorize
an administrative discharge.
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(SIGHS)
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DOCTOR: Plenty of other ways
to serve your country.
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(MESSAGE ALERT)
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(CHUCKLES)
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POLYGRAPH ADMINISTRATOR: Have
you ever committed a crime
for which you weren't caught?
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SNOWDENI No.
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POLYGRAPH ADMINISTRATOR:
Have you ever cheated
on an exam?
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SNOWDENI No.
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Do you believe
the United States
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is the greatest
country in the world?
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Yes.
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INTERVIEWER:
Why do you want
to join the CIA?
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PSYCHOLOGIST:
How would you explain
the Internet to a child?
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INTERVIEWER: Granddad
retired as an admiral
and joined the FBI.
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Dad's in the Coast Guard,
30-year man.
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PSYCHOLOGIST: What has been
the most important day
in your life?
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9/11.
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We thought my grandfather
was inside the Pentagon.
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Uh, turned out he was
off-site that day.
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INTERVIEWER:
You wanted to be
Special Forces?
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Yes, sir. Yeah,
I love their motto.
De oppresso fiber.
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INTERVIEWER: Is that what
you hope to do with us?
Free people from oppression?
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I'd like to help my country
make a difference
in the world.
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Uh, the Internet
is a technology
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that has the power
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to let everyone in the world
understand each other.
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Missed a perfect score
on the ASVAB test
by a single question.
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Crushed the language
learning test.
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Some Mandarin,
some Japanese.
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And no high school diploma.
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So why did you stop
attending high school?
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I had to make money.
My parents were
divorcing at the time.
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Any other influences?
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I'd say Joseph Campbell,
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Star Wars,
Thoreau, Ayn Rand...
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One man can stop
the motor of the world.
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Atlas Shrugged.
Yes, sir. I believe that.
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Let's try again.
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Why do you want
to join the CIA?
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Uh...
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Well, frankly, sir,
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it sounds really cool to have
top security clearance.
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(CHUCKLES)
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(INHALES DEEPLY)
It's not enough.
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(EXHALES DEEPLY)
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Ordinarily. But these
are not ordinary times.
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Bombs won't stop terrorism,
brains will,
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and we don't have
nearly enough of those.
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I'm gonna give you
a shot, Snowden.
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Thank you, sir.
Thank you very much.
You won't regret this.
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My name's Corbin O'Brien.
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I have many titles,
among them Senior Instructor.
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You'll be joining
my class at The Hill.
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Stop the vehicle.
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Shut off the engine.
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I need to see your ID.
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(BARKING)
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All right. Using
your left hand only,
pop the trunk.
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(LOCK OPENING)
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SECURITY GUARD: Now place
your hands
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through the steering wheel
on the dashboard.
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Through the steering wheel.
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On the dashboard.
Do not exit the vehicle.
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SECURITY GUARD 2:
Right here. Right here.
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Excuse me.
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You'll be looking
for Corbin's class.
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End of the hall,
keep going through
the second set of doors.
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Thank you.
Is that an Enigma?
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No.
Enigma was broken.
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This is the follow up,
the Sigaba. Never broken.
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Cold Wars greatest
encryption machine.
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Tides of history
ticked with this motor
and these rotors.
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Wow!
One day everyone's gonna want
a machine like this.
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I always wanted t0
learn cryptography.
What's this one?
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The Hot Line.
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First direct link between
Washington and Moscow.
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Probably
prevented World War Ill.
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You got a name?
How do I know
you're not the enemy?
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Oh, sorry. Uh,
Snowden. Ed Snowden.
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Hank F onesier _
Wherek! you study,
Snowman'?
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Mostly I'm,
uh, self-taught.
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You can tell me
if you're busy,
but is that a Cray-T?
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Why, yes. Yes, it is.
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The first supercomputer.
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You can get all of
this on a cell phone now.
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Yeah. So you're,
um, an engineer?
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Am I an engineer?
Instructor and counselor, too.
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I'm supposed m keep
an eye on you Us,
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make sure you don't buckle
under the pressure.
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Turn to drugs and booze.
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00:12:28,214 --> 00:12:31,787
Well, you won't have
that problem with me.
I don't drink or do drugs.
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What is your sin
of choice?
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Uh, computers.
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Well, then, Snowclen,
you've come to the right
little whorehouse.
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O'BRIAN: The front lines in
the global war on terror
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are not in Iraq
or Afghanistan.
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They're here. In London,
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Berlin,
(WOMAN SPEAKING INDISTINCTLY)
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Istanbul...
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Any server,
any connection...
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The modern battlefield
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is everywhere.
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00:13:08,488 --> 00:13:09,990
Which means
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you don't have to sit
in the ditch eating MREs
or dodging mortar fire,
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it means that if
there is another 9111,
it'll be your fault.
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Just as the last one
was my generation's.
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Believe me, you do not want
to live with that burden.
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We're gonna start
with an aptitude test.
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(KEYBOARDS CLACKING)
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(TBPJAN: Each o! you
is gonna build a covert
communications network
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in your home city,
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you're gonna deploy it,
back up your site, destroy it,
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and restore it again.
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The point of this
exercise is to keep
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your infrastructure up
and running securely.
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The average test
time is five hours.
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If you take more than eight,
you will fail.
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Mr. O'Brian?
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I'm done, sir.
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You don't have to tell me
when you've completed a stage.
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No, Ifinished
the whole thing.
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It's been 40 minutes.
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Thirty-eight.
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What?
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Thirty-eight minutes.
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Okay. Let's see
where you screwed up.
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(KEYBOARDS CLACKING)
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(SYSTEM BEEPING)
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(KEYBOARD CLACKING)
242
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(COMPUTING)
(SYSTEM BEEPING)
243
00:15:12,111 --> 00:15:14,751
You didn't say we had
to do it in order, sir.
244
00:15:14,847 --> 00:15:17,919
So I, uh, broke
the sequence to save time,
245
00:15:18,017 --> 00:15:22,090
and I automated
the backup process
to run as I built the site.
246
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Eyes on screens.
247
00:15:32,432 --> 00:15:33,536
Sir?
248
00:15:35,802 --> 00:15:37,475
What should I do now?
249
00:15:37,570 --> 00:15:38,947
Whatever you want.
250
00:15:55,221 --> 00:15:57,167
(INDISTINCT CHATTER)
(MAN LAUGHING)
251
00:16:06,566 --> 00:16:08,068
(CAMERA CLICKS)
252
00:16:16,943 --> 00:16:18,945
Hey.
Hi.
253
00:16:20,313 --> 00:16:22,190
Finally. (LAUGHS)
Yeah.
254
00:16:25,251 --> 00:16:27,492
Um, sorry.
255
00:16:32,258 --> 00:16:35,262
Do you, um,
want anything?
256
00:16:35,328 --> 00:16:38,036
No. Let's go
for a walk.
257
00:16:38,130 --> 00:16:39,803
You could use some sun.
(LAUGHS)
258
00:16:40,266 --> 00:16:44,112
(LAUGHS) Yeah.
You mentioned that earlier.
259
00:16:45,104 --> 00:16:47,482
Sorry it took me
this long. I just...
260
00:16:47,874 --> 00:16:51,788
You didn't want to
see me on crutches.
I was not so agile.
261
00:16:52,044 --> 00:16:53,717
And then this
new job hit. So...
262
00:16:53,813 --> 00:16:56,225
0h, yeah, what was it
you were doing again?
263
00:16:56,315 --> 00:16:58,226
I'm doing analysis for
the State Department.
264
00:16:58,317 --> 00:17:00,354
Right. Congratulations.
Thanks.
265
00:17:00,453 --> 00:17:01,898
You're welcome.
266
00:17:01,988 --> 00:17:03,695
Hey, can you
do me a favor
267
00:17:03,789 --> 00:17:05,996
and, um, point
in the direction
of the State Department?
268
00:17:06,792 --> 00:17:07,964
Uh...
269
00:17:11,163 --> 00:17:12,642
Yeah, it's that way.
(CAMERA CLICKS)
270
00:17:13,165 --> 00:17:15,406
Where? Are you sure?
(CAMERA CLICKS)
271
00:17:16,536 --> 00:17:19,312
I mean, I'm not that great
at orienting myself...
272
00:17:19,372 --> 00:17:21,579
Not that great
at lying, either.
273
00:17:21,674 --> 00:17:24,314
You're gonna
have to work on both
if you wanna be a spy.
274
00:17:26,012 --> 00:17:27,491
Where I came from,
everyone's parents
275
00:17:27,547 --> 00:17:29,652
worked for
the "State Department."
276
00:17:29,882 --> 00:17:32,692
Plus, every time you visited
my website this week,
277
00:17:32,752 --> 00:17:36,529
which was quite often,
it was from an IP in Virginia.
278
00:17:36,722 --> 00:17:38,759
You know how to
run an IP trace?
279
00:17:39,358 --> 00:17:43,067
I'm pretty sure that
the State Department
has no offices in Virginia.
280
00:17:45,531 --> 00:17:46,942
(CHUCKLES)
Huh?
281
00:17:47,333 --> 00:17:48,505
(CAMERA CLICKS)
282
00:17:52,438 --> 00:17:53,883
All right,
let's see you strut it.
283
00:17:54,340 --> 00:17:55,546
Let's see what?
284
00:17:55,608 --> 00:17:57,178
Let's see you strut it.
Show me what you got,
you know.
285
00:17:57,243 --> 00:17:58,916
Your best catwalk.
286
00:18:00,179 --> 00:18:02,455
Don't be shy.
287
00:18:02,582 --> 00:18:04,789
Come on.
You got this.
Uh... All right.
288
00:18:04,917 --> 00:18:06,123
(CAMERA CLICKING)
289
00:18:06,252 --> 00:18:07,731
(BOTH LAUGHING)
290
00:18:08,521 --> 00:18:09,625
I don't know. (LAUGHS)
291
00:18:15,628 --> 00:18:17,198
PROTESTORS: (CHANTING)
Drop Bush, not bombs!
292
00:18:17,263 --> 00:18:21,040
Drop Bush, not bombs!
293
00:18:21,200 --> 00:18:23,373
Excuse me.
Would you mind signing
our petition, please?
294
00:18:23,436 --> 00:18:24,779
Yes, absolutely.
295
00:18:27,039 --> 00:18:28,780
Thank you.
Thank you so much. Sir?
296
00:18:28,874 --> 00:18:29,909
No, thank you.
297
00:18:32,612 --> 00:18:34,148
MALE ACTIVIST:
Excuse me, ma'am.
Would you like to sign?
298
00:18:34,246 --> 00:18:35,919
I actually just signed.
Yeah.
Okay. Thank you very much.
299
00:18:35,982 --> 00:18:36,983
Thank you.
300
00:18:38,417 --> 00:18:40,556
Too much independent
spirit for you?
301
00:18:41,120 --> 00:18:44,829
Uh, no, I just don't really
like bashing my country.
302
00:18:44,957 --> 00:18:48,734
It's my country too,
and right now it has
blood on its hands.
303
00:18:49,795 --> 00:18:51,138
(SIGHS)
304
00:18:51,230 --> 00:18:54,143
Sorry, ljusl...
I have friends who are
over there right now.
305
00:18:54,400 --> 00:18:55,572
I'm not talking
about the troops.
306
00:18:55,635 --> 00:18:57,478
I'm talking about the moron
sending them to war.
307
00:18:57,570 --> 00:19:00,414
(LAUGHS) Moron'? You mean
our Commander-in-Chief?
308
00:19:00,473 --> 00:19:02,919
Yeah, whatever you
want to call him.
He's still wrong.
309
00:19:02,975 --> 00:19:04,682
How do you know he's wrong?
You're just lashing out.
310
00:19:04,777 --> 00:19:08,589
No, I'm not lashing out.
I'm questioning
our government.
311
00:19:08,648 --> 00:19:09,786
That's what we do
in this country.
312
00:19:09,849 --> 00:19:12,193
That is the principle
that we were founded on.
313
00:19:12,284 --> 00:19:16,460
Okay, but how about
questioning the liberal media?
314
00:19:16,756 --> 00:19:20,636
I mean,
you're just buying into
what one side is saying.
315
00:19:21,427 --> 00:19:24,033
(LAUGHS) Maybe I am,
'cause my side is right.
316
00:19:24,597 --> 00:19:26,702
See, that's funny,
'cause my side's right.
Oh, really'?
317
00:19:26,799 --> 00:19:29,109
Yeah.
Uh...(LAUGHS)
318
00:19:29,869 --> 00:19:33,214
Why is it smart conservatives
always make me so mad?
319
00:19:33,305 --> 00:19:35,615
Probably because
you don't like
hearing the truth.
320
00:19:36,208 --> 00:19:40,054
You are a very
frustrating individual,
you know that?
321
00:19:41,814 --> 00:19:43,987
How am I going
to make you see?
322
00:19:44,050 --> 00:19:46,291
I can seejust fine,
thank you.
323
00:19:52,625 --> 00:19:53,831
(CHUCKLES)
324
00:19:53,893 --> 00:19:55,167
That help at all?
325
00:19:56,529 --> 00:19:59,032
Nope. No, that did
nothing for me.
326
00:19:59,131 --> 00:20:00,371
Tastes like liberal.
327
00:20:00,466 --> 00:20:03,310
(LAUGHS)
It's not my thing.
328
00:20:05,805 --> 00:20:10,345
(O'BRIAN READING)
329
00:20:10,476 --> 00:20:14,151
Is it constitutional
to bypass the Courts?
330
00:20:14,213 --> 00:20:16,819
No. The Fourth Amendment
prevents searches
331
00:20:16,882 --> 00:20:18,327
and seizures
without a warrant.
332
00:20:18,384 --> 00:20:21,922
That's absolutely right,
Rio. Which means
333
00:20:22,755 --> 00:20:25,565
your Com mander-in-Chief,
the President of
the United States,
334
00:20:25,658 --> 00:20:27,501
is breaking the law.
335
00:20:28,694 --> 00:20:30,503
That is what you're saying,
isn't it, Rio?
336
00:20:30,663 --> 00:20:35,544
Well, I guess it depends
on who you talk to.
337
00:20:35,601 --> 00:20:37,444
O'BRIAN: And if you talk
to journalists?
338
00:20:38,170 --> 00:20:41,947
Who, more often than not,
don't have the full picture,
339
00:20:42,041 --> 00:20:45,511
or neglect to report it,
you only get a partial truth.
340
00:20:49,181 --> 00:20:51,923
Foreign Intelligence
Surveillance Act.
341
00:20:52,017 --> 00:20:53,519
The FISA Court.
342
00:20:54,286 --> 00:20:57,290
We do respect
the Fourth Amendment
in this country,
343
00:20:57,389 --> 00:20:58,925
and we issue warrants
based on suspicion.
344
00:20:59,024 --> 00:21:04,372
But sometimes these warrants
have to be issued
by secret courts,
345
00:21:04,430 --> 00:21:07,104
so we don't alert
the suspects we're spying on.
346
00:21:07,199 --> 00:21:10,373
And these court proceedings
are classified,
347
00:21:10,436 --> 00:21:12,211
which means, surprise...
348
00:21:13,572 --> 00:21:16,451
They don't appear in papers
such as The New York Times.
349
00:21:17,877 --> 00:21:19,151
SNOWDEN:
Did you see my test scores?
350
00:21:19,278 --> 00:21:22,555
HANK: Yes. Top of
my class. Like you.
What, here?
351
00:21:22,615 --> 00:21:25,653
NSA. They liked me plenty.
352
00:21:25,751 --> 00:21:30,063
They put me on
all the best teams.
Soviet frontier. Desert Storm.
353
00:21:30,489 --> 00:21:32,560
And then
the big new challenge,
354
00:21:32,625 --> 00:21:37,165
find the terrorist
in the Internet haystack.
Hell of a haystack.
355
00:21:37,263 --> 00:21:38,674
Hundreds of
terabytes a minute.
356
00:21:38,764 --> 00:21:41,677
I mean, it would
take you 400 years
to read the emails.
357
00:21:41,767 --> 00:21:43,804
Then you have
to analyze them.
358
00:21:44,603 --> 00:21:46,844
Sometimes,
the more you look,
the less you see.
359
00:21:47,940 --> 00:21:49,783
Whafd you come up with?
HANK: Something beautiful.
360
00:21:49,842 --> 00:21:52,254
In house.
For $3 million.
361
00:21:52,311 --> 00:21:56,418
A program that could
differentiate between
foreign and domestic,
362
00:21:56,482 --> 00:22:00,123
encrypt every signal
we weren't targeting,
so it would remain private.
363
00:22:00,352 --> 00:22:02,457
It was elegant, streamlined.
364
00:22:02,521 --> 00:22:04,364
It was the best
work I ever did.
365
00:22:05,925 --> 00:22:07,097
Have a seat.
366
00:22:08,694 --> 00:22:09,968
What was it called?
367
00:22:17,937 --> 00:22:23,148
Ed, rising to
the top in our world
368
00:22:23,209 --> 00:22:26,554
can sometimes
be hard on a man.
369
00:22:26,645 --> 00:22:31,025
I mean... You think
you're making strides,
370
00:22:31,116 --> 00:22:33,790
you think you're
taking the initiative.
371
00:22:34,620 --> 00:22:37,499
And then, the next minute,
they grind your work
out of existence.
372
00:22:38,023 --> 00:22:40,025
They didn't use it?
Why not?
373
00:22:40,125 --> 00:22:42,537
HANK: Well,
they never tell you why.
374
00:22:44,029 --> 00:22:46,669
Two years later,
after 9/11 ,
375
00:22:46,732 --> 00:22:48,040
a friend of mine
tells me about
376
00:22:48,133 --> 00:22:50,909
this new contractor
program they're using.
377
00:22:51,003 --> 00:22:53,483
Costs $4 billion
to deploy.
378
00:22:53,539 --> 00:22:58,488
Modeled after mine
but with no filters,
no automation.
379
00:22:59,545 --> 00:23:03,220
Ingested everything.
They were drowning in data.
380
00:23:03,315 --> 00:23:04,919
It was a fucking disaster.
381
00:23:05,017 --> 00:23:07,896
Okay, but there must have been
some bigger picture, right?
382
00:23:07,987 --> 00:23:11,264
I mean, spending
that kind of money'?
They're not stupid.
383
00:23:11,357 --> 00:23:14,031
You would think
intelligence would
count for something
384
00:23:14,093 --> 00:23:16,004
in the intelligence
business.
385
00:23:16,061 --> 00:23:19,440
Right. But you wanna
know what it really is?
386
00:23:19,531 --> 00:23:21,738
What really sets
the agenda?
387
00:23:22,735 --> 00:23:27,115
Military industrial
happiness management.
388
00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:30,042
You keep the coffers
open in Congress,
389
00:23:30,109 --> 00:23:33,283
you keep the money flowing
to the contractors.
390
00:23:33,379 --> 00:23:37,088
Efficiency, results?
They go out the window.
391
00:23:37,917 --> 00:23:40,523
Not to mention...
All right.
392
00:23:42,021 --> 00:23:43,125
Well, you're late
for class.
393
00:23:43,255 --> 00:23:44,632
(BELL RINGING)
394
00:23:44,790 --> 00:23:46,633
Okay. Thank you.
395
00:23:48,394 --> 00:23:50,806
Can I take another one?
Sure.
396
00:23:57,870 --> 00:24:00,407
Did you ever say
anything to anybody?
397
00:24:00,472 --> 00:24:04,614
Yeah. I went to legal.
We filed complaints.
398
00:24:04,710 --> 00:24:08,556
Now here I am,
tucked away, teaching you.
399
00:24:11,317 --> 00:24:13,763
Maybe that's more important,
in the long run.
400
00:24:14,620 --> 00:24:15,655
You're getting better.
401
00:24:31,570 --> 00:24:33,516
My favorite spot
on campus.
402
00:24:36,108 --> 00:24:37,610
You hunt, Ed?
403
00:24:38,744 --> 00:24:40,087
SNOWDEN: Uh.,.
404
00:24:40,946 --> 00:24:43,483
Did some skeet shooting
with my dad a few times,
405
00:24:43,582 --> 00:24:45,323
but, no,
I never went hunting.
406
00:24:45,417 --> 00:24:46,623
O'BRIAN:
We'll go one day.
407
00:24:46,685 --> 00:24:47,925
SNOWDEN:
Thaw be great.
408
00:24:49,288 --> 00:24:50,961
Mr. O'Brian,
can I ask you a question?
409
00:24:51,023 --> 00:24:52,798
How aboutjust
calling me Corbin?
410
00:24:53,158 --> 00:24:56,696
Okay. (LAUGHS)
Thank you, sir. Uh, Corbin.
411
00:24:57,663 --> 00:25:02,203
I was talking
with Hank Forrester
and I wanted to know,
412
00:25:02,301 --> 00:25:06,181
are all of our SIGINT programs
specifically targeted?
413
00:25:06,939 --> 00:25:10,716
Of course.
What good would they be
if they weren't? Hmm?
414
00:25:12,177 --> 00:25:13,554
(LAUGHS)
Yeah, I don't know.
415
00:25:15,848 --> 00:25:17,691
You have a girlfriend, Ed?
416
00:25:19,885 --> 00:25:21,523
Uh, nothing serious.
417
00:25:21,620 --> 00:25:23,031
What's her name?
Lindsay.
418
00:25:23,122 --> 00:25:24,157
Lindsay.
419
00:25:25,457 --> 00:25:26,993
She going with you?
420
00:25:27,826 --> 00:25:30,670
No, lwouldnW want
to put her in any danger.
421
00:25:30,729 --> 00:25:31,799
Well, you won't have to.
422
00:25:32,164 --> 00:25:34,303
We're not sending you
to the Middle East.
423
00:25:39,571 --> 00:25:44,145
Sir, I'm your best student.
Doesn't that count
for something?
424
00:25:44,977 --> 00:25:49,392
In 20 years,
Iraq will be a hellhole
nobody cares about.
425
00:25:49,481 --> 00:25:51,518
Terrorism's
a short-term threat.
426
00:25:51,583 --> 00:25:56,157
The real threats will come
from China, Russia, Iran,
427
00:25:56,221 --> 00:25:59,065
and they'll come as
SQL injections and malware.
428
00:25:59,158 --> 00:26:03,231
Without minds like yours,
this country will be
torn apart in cyberspace.
429
00:26:04,096 --> 00:26:05,507
I don't want to risk
losing you
430
00:26:05,597 --> 00:26:08,339
for some horseshit war
over sand and oil.
431
00:26:10,936 --> 00:26:12,847
Sir, I'm surprised
to hear you say that
432
00:26:12,905 --> 00:26:16,284
You don't have to agree
with your politicians
to be a patriot.
433
00:26:16,375 --> 00:26:17,718
(CELL PHONE RINGING)
434
00:26:20,345 --> 00:26:22,791
Sir, where are
you sending me?
Take a moment.
435
00:26:23,449 --> 00:26:24,860
Enjoy the view.
436
00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:28,921
Hey.
437
00:26:32,024 --> 00:26:33,765
(SIRENS BLARING)
438
00:26:34,927 --> 00:26:37,066
(INDISTINCT CHATTER)
439
00:26:39,865 --> 00:26:41,208
(STATIC)
440
00:26:42,634 --> 00:26:44,113
(KNOCKING ON DOOR)
441
00:26:45,537 --> 00:26:46,572
(DOOR OPENS)
442
00:26:46,638 --> 00:26:47,878
GLENN: This is Laura.
443
00:26:48,474 --> 00:26:49,475
Hello.
444
00:26:49,575 --> 00:26:51,054
EWEN: Hello,
nice to meet you.
445
00:26:51,877 --> 00:26:54,983
Hello, I'm Ewen MacAskill
from the Guardian.
It's nice to meet you.
446
00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:56,286
Nice to meet you, too.
447
00:26:56,381 --> 00:26:59,885
Um, if you don't mind, uh,
I'd like to record some of...
448
00:26:59,952 --> 00:27:02,330
Cell phones go
in the microwave.
449
00:27:02,721 --> 00:27:03,791
Dare I ask why?
450
00:27:03,889 --> 00:27:06,335
We'll get to that.
Afteryou ask your questions.
451
00:27:07,326 --> 00:27:08,464
WEN: Yeah, before.-.
452
00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:10,631
Before we get on to
the stories, I need
to know more about you.
453
00:27:10,729 --> 00:27:15,144
Your career by Glenn's account
is very varied,
454
00:27:15,234 --> 00:27:16,907
but the Guardian
needs evidence that...
455
00:27:16,969 --> 00:27:20,007
Yeah. This is my
diplomatic passport
for friendly countries,
456
00:27:20,105 --> 00:27:21,982
my tourist passport
for everywhere else.
457
00:27:22,074 --> 00:27:23,451
You can check
the visa stamps.
458
00:27:23,509 --> 00:27:27,582
This is my NSA badge
with Booz Allen,
my CIA badge with Dell,
459
00:27:27,646 --> 00:27:30,752
and this is my DIA
instructor's badge.
460
00:27:30,816 --> 00:27:33,763
This is a photo of me
with Michael Hayden,
461
00:27:33,852 --> 00:27:36,765
who's a former head
of the NSA and the CIA.
462
00:27:38,023 --> 00:27:39,161
When can you publish?
463
00:27:40,425 --> 00:27:43,634
Okay, um, do you mind
if I sit down?
No, please.
464
00:27:43,929 --> 00:27:48,207
EWEN: Uh, Glenn says
you want to, uh...
465
00:27:48,467 --> 00:27:50,276
You want to tell people
your identity.
466
00:27:50,335 --> 00:27:51,939
How do you think
your government's
going t0 react?
467
00:27:52,204 --> 00:27:54,616
Well, they'll charge me
under the Espionage Act.
468
00:27:54,673 --> 00:27:57,381
And they'll say I endangered
national security,
469
00:27:57,476 --> 00:28:00,184
and they'll demonize me,
and my friends and family.
470
00:28:00,279 --> 00:28:03,021
(INHALES DEEPLY)
And they'll throw me in jail.
471
00:28:03,115 --> 00:28:05,117
That's the
best-case scenario.
472
00:28:05,217 --> 00:28:06,525
And the worst?
473
00:28:06,618 --> 00:28:08,825
Well, if I don't
have any media cover,
474
00:28:08,887 --> 00:28:11,493
then I'll be rendered
by the CIA
475
00:28:11,557 --> 00:28:13,901
and interrogated
outside of the law.
476
00:28:13,992 --> 00:28:16,666
And they have a station
right up the street.
477
00:28:16,728 --> 00:28:19,140
But how would they
know what you did?
478
00:28:19,198 --> 00:28:22,736
Because I left a digital
footprint in my logs,
so they'll figure it out.
479
00:28:22,834 --> 00:28:24,814
I did not want
a manhunt.
480
00:28:24,870 --> 00:28:27,043
I know what they would
do to my colleagues.
481
00:28:28,340 --> 00:28:31,184
Look, Mr. MacAskill, uh,
482
00:28:31,243 --> 00:28:34,850
this is not about money
or anything for me.
483
00:28:34,913 --> 00:28:36,187
There's no hidden agenda.
484
00:28:36,248 --> 00:28:40,060
I just wanted to get this data
to established journalists
like yourselves,
485
00:28:40,152 --> 00:28:42,359
so that you can present it
to the world,
486
00:28:42,421 --> 00:28:45,994
and the people can decide
either I'm wrong
487
00:28:46,992 --> 00:28:50,906
or there's something going on
inside the government
that's really wrong.
488
00:28:54,700 --> 00:28:55,735
Son.
489
00:28:58,270 --> 00:29:01,012
This one
is everything I have
490
00:29:01,073 --> 00:29:04,020
on your British
intelligence agency, the GCHQ.
491
00:29:04,076 --> 00:29:06,056
An encryption key
will follow.
492
00:29:07,212 --> 00:29:09,715
You're gonna want
your technical people
at the Guardian
493
00:29:09,781 --> 00:29:11,021
to look through
that thoroughly.
494
00:29:11,083 --> 00:29:13,029
There's a lot
of stuff there.
495
00:29:13,552 --> 00:29:14,895
(INHALES DEEPLY)
496
00:29:16,021 --> 00:29:17,523
Listen,
they're gonna investigate,
497
00:29:17,623 --> 00:29:20,604
and they're gonna
figure out what I've done.
498
00:29:20,892 --> 00:29:22,803
And then they're
gonna come for me.
499
00:29:22,894 --> 00:29:24,430
And now that
we've made contact,
500
00:29:26,198 --> 00:29:28,041
they're gonna come
for all of you, too.
501
00:29:33,238 --> 00:29:35,775
Uh... Um...
502
00:29:37,276 --> 00:29:38,914
Do you mind if I go
look in the microwave?
503
00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:51,260
Ewen. I'm on with Stuart.
504
00:29:51,323 --> 00:29:52,393
Hi, Ewen.
505
00:29:52,958 --> 00:29:56,337
Hi, Stuart. Look,
I've got one thing to say.
506
00:29:56,495 --> 00:29:58,941
The Guinness here is great.
JAN INE: (OVER PHONE)
Wonderful.
507
00:29:58,997 --> 00:30:01,136
Oh, absolutely
the genuine article.
508
00:30:01,233 --> 00:30:02,303
JANINE: (OVER PHONE) Good.
509
00:30:02,401 --> 00:30:04,847
But shockingly different
from what you'd expect.
510
00:30:05,404 --> 00:30:10,649
So... (CLEARS THROAT) Now we
have the lawyers to deal with.
And no doubt the White House.
511
00:30:12,444 --> 00:30:13,445
I got the go ahead.
512
00:30:13,512 --> 00:30:14,820
That's greai.
Oh, good.
513
00:30:14,913 --> 00:30:16,654
Let's get started.
We have a lotto
go through here,
514
00:30:16,748 --> 00:30:18,022
and it's not easy reading.
515
00:30:18,116 --> 00:30:19,925
LAURA: We can start
by showing him XKeyscore.
516
00:30:19,985 --> 00:30:22,329
Good idea. Ed,
can you bring it up again
and walk us through it?
517
00:30:22,421 --> 00:30:23,491
Yeah.
518
00:30:26,925 --> 00:30:29,269
(CAMERA BEEPS, WHIRRING)
519
00:30:30,329 --> 00:30:32,275
Do we all get
under there now?
520
00:30:32,364 --> 00:30:34,605
He's protecting
his passwords.
(KEYBOARD CLACKING)
521
00:30:35,667 --> 00:30:37,874
Okay. So...
522
00:30:41,206 --> 00:30:43,948
This was introduced
523
00:30:44,009 --> 00:30:48,515
during my first deployment
at the CIA in Geneva.
524
00:30:48,613 --> 00:30:49,717
EWEN: "XKeyscore."
525
00:30:51,283 --> 00:30:52,626
What does that do?
526
00:30:52,951 --> 00:30:55,795
It's like
a search interface.
527
00:30:57,489 --> 00:30:59,059
What does it search for?
528
00:30:59,358 --> 00:31:00,962
Anything you want.
529
00:31:02,194 --> 00:31:04,003
EWEN: What was your
assignment in Geneva?
530
00:31:04,396 --> 00:31:09,311
SNOWDEN: Weli, I was
assigned with diplomatic cover
to the UN mission
531
00:31:09,368 --> 00:31:11,905
to maintain
the CWs computer
security network.
532
00:31:16,208 --> 00:31:20,213
Ispent almost two years
around CIA field officers.
533
00:31:22,748 --> 00:31:25,024
I don't see a time
stamp on any of this.
534
00:31:25,183 --> 00:31:26,662
We have
a confirmation on the GSS.
535
00:31:26,818 --> 00:31:27,990
(PHONE RINGING)
536
00:31:28,186 --> 00:31:30,689
SNOWDEN: I'm sorry, sir,
I don't understand.
537
00:31:30,756 --> 00:31:33,327
Sherman says you hacked
the Human Resources site.
538
00:31:33,425 --> 00:31:35,234
Yeah, it's my job
to find flaws.
539
00:31:35,494 --> 00:31:37,997
The security of the HR site
is not your problem.
540
00:31:38,063 --> 00:31:39,667
You went outside
the wheelhouse'
541
00:31:39,731 --> 00:31:42,177
Okay, but just to clarify,
I did not hack it,
542
00:31:42,334 --> 00:31:44,746
I showed that it
could be hacked.
543
00:31:44,836 --> 00:31:46,110
You told me
to find a patch.
544
00:31:46,204 --> 00:31:47,376
You have that
in writing?
545
00:31:47,439 --> 00:31:50,682
Yes, I do.
Remember, I sent you
the proof of concept.
546
00:31:53,779 --> 00:31:55,019
Doesn't matter
what you did, Snowden.
547
00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:57,686
Right or wrong,
you need to let these things
be someone else's problem.
548
00:31:58,016 --> 00:31:59,586
He's also put
a derog in your file.
549
00:31:59,684 --> 00:32:01,095
Excuse me?
Let that be a lesson.
550
00:32:01,186 --> 00:32:02,529
I don't want him
calling me again
551
00:32:02,587 --> 00:32:04,362
about another
Ed Snowden moment.
552
00:32:05,390 --> 00:32:06,801
Okay?
553
00:32:07,125 --> 00:32:09,036
(INDISTINCT CHATTER)
554
00:32:10,195 --> 00:32:11,868
Why don't you take it easy
the rest of the day?
555
00:32:11,930 --> 00:32:13,773
Go work on
the scrubbing pile.
556
00:32:19,704 --> 00:32:21,377
That didn't look
like it went well.
557
00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:26,753
Oh, hey, man. Uh, yeah.
No, I just got a derog
for doing my job.
558
00:32:26,812 --> 00:32:30,419
(CHUCKLES) Politics, man.
The culture of fear
wins again.
559
00:32:30,549 --> 00:32:32,893
I can't get
anything done here.
Yeah.
560
00:32:33,318 --> 00:32:36,959
Hey, um, what about that idea
that we were talking about?
561
00:32:37,055 --> 00:32:38,625
I'm working on it.
I'm waiting for a call back
562
00:32:38,723 --> 00:32:40,225
from our friend
at The Hill.
563
00:32:40,258 --> 00:32:41,999
Who, Corbin?
You called Corbin?
564
00:32:42,093 --> 00:32:43,436
You think he can
do something?
565
00:32:43,495 --> 00:32:46,499
We'll see.
Maybe some limited field ops
under my supervision.
566
00:32:46,598 --> 00:32:48,134
Yes, that would be amazing.
I would love...
567
00:32:48,233 --> 00:32:51,976
Easy, Ed. I've gotta
see a cleric in Milan.
We'll talk after.
568
00:32:52,070 --> 00:32:53,913
Okay. Thank you.
569
00:32:57,409 --> 00:32:59,480
(MACHINE WHIRRING)
570
00:33:09,855 --> 00:33:11,095
(KNOCKS)
571
00:33:12,424 --> 00:33:14,802
Damn, CIA does not like
to leave a trace, huh?
572
00:33:14,860 --> 00:33:15,861
Can I help you?
573
00:33:15,961 --> 00:33:17,668
You get curious
to check one out?
574
00:33:18,163 --> 00:33:20,302
See what kind of crazy-ass
covert kill mission
575
00:33:20,365 --> 00:33:21,469
you might be erasing
from history?
576
00:33:21,533 --> 00:33:22,637
I'm sorry,
who are you with?
577
00:33:22,934 --> 00:33:25,437
No Such Agency.
I'm Gabriel Sol.
578
00:33:25,537 --> 00:33:28,848
I'm the SU-pound brain
from the Council of
Wizards and Warlocks.
579
00:33:29,474 --> 00:33:30,646
Excuse me?
580
00:33:30,709 --> 00:33:32,950
Oh.
Giving you your intel
for Bucharest, dude-
581
00:33:33,011 --> 00:33:34,957
Unless there's
another Dave Churchyard.
582
00:33:35,013 --> 00:33:37,653
No. That's me.
Right this way.
583
00:33:41,987 --> 00:33:44,297
I'll be right outside.
Stay if you want.
584
00:33:44,356 --> 00:33:48,862
(SYSTEM B EE PS)
Uh, I don't have authorization
to use NSA programs.
585
00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:50,030
Well, if you're
the messenger to Bucharest,
586
00:33:50,128 --> 00:33:51,539
you must have
a PRIVAC clearance
587
00:33:51,630 --> 00:33:53,234
to see the finished
intel, yes?
588
00:33:54,065 --> 00:33:55,043
Yeah...
589
00:33:55,133 --> 00:33:56,305
GABRIEL: Yeah, so what
difference does it make
590
00:33:56,368 --> 00:33:57,642
if you see how
it's put together?
591
00:33:57,702 --> 00:34:00,148
(KEYBOARD CLACKING)
592
00:34:00,238 --> 00:34:01,808
Well, it's up to you, man.
593
00:34:07,212 --> 00:34:09,351
Uh, you're giving me
just names?
594
00:34:09,414 --> 00:34:10,984
Uh, and a lot more
than names.
595
00:34:11,383 --> 00:34:14,421
What I will be providing you
and the fine gentlemen
of the Secret Service
596
00:34:14,519 --> 00:34:19,400
is a list of every threat
made about the President
since February 3rd.
597
00:34:19,491 --> 00:34:21,994
And a profile of
every threat-maker.
598
00:34:22,894 --> 00:34:26,899
And these are, like,
existing targets?
599
00:34:26,998 --> 00:34:30,172
99% are gonna come from
the bulk collection program,
so...
600
00:34:30,335 --> 00:34:32,110
Upstream, Muscular,
Tempora, PRISM.
601
00:34:33,004 --> 00:34:34,005
PRISM?
602
00:34:36,007 --> 00:34:37,850
You got a little
Snow White in you.
603
00:34:38,944 --> 00:34:42,221
Which makes me feel like
the witch bringing you
a poisoned apple.
604
00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:44,590
Here. Exhibit A.
605
00:34:44,683 --> 00:34:47,892
Oakland resident Justin Pinsky
posted on a message board,
606
00:34:47,953 --> 00:34:50,729
"Romania has a storied history
of executing their leaders,
607
00:34:50,789 --> 00:34:53,633
"couldn't they do us a solid
and take out Bush?"
608
00:34:54,759 --> 00:34:57,535
Now this looks juicy.
This is from a G-chat.
609
00:34:59,364 --> 00:35:02,868
"...with the biggest python
you've ever seen." Hmm.
610
00:35:04,536 --> 00:35:06,379
How is this all possible?
611
00:35:06,438 --> 00:35:08,440
Um, keyword selectors.
612
00:35:08,540 --> 00:35:10,713
"Attack," "take Out Bush."
613
00:35:12,477 --> 00:35:14,047
So think of it as
a Google search,
614
00:35:14,112 --> 00:35:16,092
except instead of searching
only what people make public,
615
00:35:16,147 --> 00:35:18,388
we're also looking at
everything they don't. So...
616
00:35:18,883 --> 00:35:20,760
Emails, chats,
SMS, whatever.
617
00:35:20,819 --> 00:35:22,560
Yeah, but which people?
618
00:35:23,788 --> 00:35:25,563
The whole kingdom,
Snow White.
619
00:35:30,061 --> 00:35:31,301
(INDISTINCT CHATTER)
620
00:35:32,797 --> 00:35:34,470
Which ambassador
was he again?
621
00:35:34,566 --> 00:35:37,137
De La Hoya, with
World Trade Organization.
622
00:35:37,235 --> 00:35:38,305
Right.
623
00:35:38,670 --> 00:35:40,911
(STRING QUARTET PLAYING)
624
00:35:52,150 --> 00:35:53,151
MATT: So...
625
00:35:53,918 --> 00:35:55,625
O'Brian came through
for you.
626
00:35:55,787 --> 00:35:59,428
He agrees your talents
are being wasted. You ready
for a little action?
627
00:36:00,191 --> 00:36:02,762
Really? What,
you mean right here?
628
00:36:03,261 --> 00:36:05,172
Yeah. Now.
629
00:36:05,263 --> 00:36:07,334
See the woman in
the pink number?
630
00:36:07,432 --> 00:36:12,177
Credit Suisse.
JP. Morgan's on her arm-
Grandma's with Deutsche Bank.
631
00:36:12,270 --> 00:36:14,113
Ten thousand bankers
in this town.
632
00:36:14,172 --> 00:36:16,118
All you need to turn is one.
633
00:36:16,675 --> 00:36:18,279
Socialize. Meet a few.
634
00:36:18,343 --> 00:36:21,119
Preferably ones sitting on
a pile of dirty Saudi money
635
00:36:21,179 --> 00:36:22,556
that's funding bin Laden.
636
00:36:22,681 --> 00:36:25,958
Thank you very much.
Church. Church.
Sure. Churchyard.
637
00:36:26,951 --> 00:36:28,953
(SPEAKING RUSSIAN)
638
00:36:33,825 --> 00:36:36,533
Mr. Debrinin asks
your business card, please.
639
00:36:36,961 --> 00:36:39,305
An ambassador. Wow!
(LAUGHING)
640
00:36:39,497 --> 00:36:41,374
I wish I had your
schmoozing skills.
641
00:36:41,466 --> 00:36:43,309
Uh, well,
that's why you have me.
642
00:36:43,401 --> 00:36:46,143
Yeah. You don't know
any bankers, do you?
Bankers?
643
00:36:46,971 --> 00:36:49,474
Are you on some kind of
assignment or something?
644
00:36:50,975 --> 00:36:55,253
Um,
"Relationship cultivating-"
(SIGHS) And not well.
645
00:36:56,748 --> 00:36:58,056
Let me help you.
646
00:36:58,149 --> 00:36:59,253
No.
Yeah.
647
00:36:59,517 --> 00:37:01,861
No, this is serious.
I know it's serious.
648
00:37:02,187 --> 00:37:03,188
Trust me.
649
00:37:05,190 --> 00:37:06,498
Any luck?
650
00:37:06,825 --> 00:37:08,031
No, no bites.
651
00:37:09,527 --> 00:37:11,871
Is there some kind
of trick to it?
652
00:37:12,564 --> 00:37:14,840
It's all about finding
the pressure point.
653
00:37:14,899 --> 00:37:16,936
Everything else is
just pushing on it.
654
00:37:19,604 --> 00:37:21,174
Looks like
you're being summoned.
655
00:37:26,111 --> 00:37:28,682
...we have to pay extra...
Ma Man'?
May I interrupt?
656
00:37:28,747 --> 00:37:29,919
This is
my boyfriend, Dave.
657
00:37:30,014 --> 00:37:32,517
Hello, Dave.
Nice to meet you.
Nice t0 meet you.
658
00:37:32,584 --> 00:37:33,688
Marwan works at Monfori.
659
00:37:34,753 --> 00:37:37,256
We were talking,
and after last week,
660
00:37:37,355 --> 00:37:39,130
he may be able
to give you some tips.
661
00:37:39,224 --> 00:37:41,761
Gentlemen,
I'll see you inside.
Last week?
662
00:37:43,428 --> 00:37:46,705
He's embarrassed.
It was a lot
of money for us.
663
00:37:49,033 --> 00:37:51,240
Day trading is
a perilous sport.
(LAUGHS)
664
00:37:51,369 --> 00:37:53,747
You shouldn't
be ashamed of it.
Yeah.
665
00:37:54,439 --> 00:37:57,113
I'm gonna grab some food.
See you guys inside?
666
00:37:57,208 --> 00:37:58,312
Sure.
667
00:37:59,978 --> 00:38:02,481
You have
a lovely girlfriend.
Thank you so much.
668
00:38:03,615 --> 00:38:05,595
You know, Iwork in IT,
and so I just figured
669
00:38:05,717 --> 00:38:08,425
I could crack the market
like a weak network.
670
00:38:08,553 --> 00:38:11,591
May I ask, how precipitous
were your losses?
671
00:38:12,824 --> 00:38:15,464
Well, I told Lindsay
it was 20,000,
672
00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:18,404
but between you and me,
it was closer to 45.
673
00:38:19,230 --> 00:38:22,643
Tried to recoup,
but that was a mistake,
674
00:38:22,734 --> 00:38:24,304
and now without
any real grounding,
675
00:38:24,402 --> 00:38:25,972
I feel like I'm just
sliding out of control.
676
00:38:26,070 --> 00:38:27,947
Oh, I have seen it
many times.
677
00:38:28,006 --> 00:38:29,815
And I'm always happy
to help a man
678
00:38:29,908 --> 00:38:32,149
break a bad habit
before it gets going.
679
00:38:32,243 --> 00:38:34,086
Oh, thank you.
I really appreciate that
680
00:38:36,414 --> 00:38:39,156
GABRIEL: This is the cleanest
Pakistani I've ever seen.
681
00:38:39,250 --> 00:38:41,423
We got no first-degree ties
to government or ISI,
682
00:38:41,486 --> 00:38:42,931
no shady family.
683
00:38:43,988 --> 00:38:45,661
I mean, second-degree contacts
are off the charts,
684
00:38:45,757 --> 00:38:47,327
but that's... I mean,
that's everyone
in the Middle East
685
00:38:47,425 --> 00:38:48,665
with a six-figure income.
686
00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:52,537
Well, it's not dirt
that we need necessarily,
it's a pressure point.
687
00:38:52,630 --> 00:38:55,770
Something intimate,
some kind of weakness.
688
00:38:55,867 --> 00:38:59,144
Can we look through
his family?
Mmm-hmm.
689
00:38:59,838 --> 00:39:03,615
GABRIEL: How about
his sister-in-law?
690
00:39:04,876 --> 00:39:05,946
Yeah.
691
00:39:08,513 --> 00:39:11,824
What is that,
is that some video
that she sent somebody?
692
00:39:11,883 --> 00:39:14,295
No, this is live.
Out of Paris.
693
00:39:14,552 --> 00:39:15,792
What do you mean, live?
694
00:39:16,621 --> 00:39:19,568
GABRIEL: Optic Nerve.
It's camera
and mic activation.
695
00:39:19,724 --> 00:39:21,726
I wish we could take credit,
but the Brits wrote it.
696
00:39:21,826 --> 00:39:23,169
Activation?
697
00:39:23,228 --> 00:39:25,174
GABRIEL: Yeah,
her laptop's off.
698
00:39:25,230 --> 00:39:26,868
Or was, she just
forgot to close it.
699
00:39:26,965 --> 00:39:28,000
Of course,
how would she know?
700
00:39:28,066 --> 00:39:30,637
This shit is so sly,
the webcam light
doesn't even turn on.
701
00:39:38,176 --> 00:39:41,214
Hmm. I always wondered
what was under those.
702
00:39:48,753 --> 00:39:51,199
Okay, look, let's stick
to family in Geneva.
703
00:39:51,422 --> 00:39:52,730
All right?
704
00:39:52,824 --> 00:39:54,826
Okay, Snow White.
Uh...
705
00:39:55,660 --> 00:39:58,334
Fifteen-year-old daughter
at the International School.
706
00:39:58,396 --> 00:40:02,742
Yeah. Uh, Facebook?
Is that possible?
707
00:40:02,834 --> 00:40:04,507
Dude,
Facebook's my bitch.
708
00:40:04,569 --> 00:40:06,048
Seriously?
(KEYBOARD CLACKING)
709
00:40:06,337 --> 00:40:09,511
Like, she fights
with her parents, or...
710
00:40:09,574 --> 00:40:12,885
Don't worry, don't worry.
I know all the hooks
for this kind of fishing.
711
00:40:13,511 --> 00:40:17,357
Uh, query name.
So email, keyword,
whatever selector you want.
712
00:40:18,016 --> 00:40:21,190
And justification
is where I write...
713
00:40:23,421 --> 00:40:26,561
In other words,
turning your daddy
into a CIA informant.
714
00:40:26,691 --> 00:40:28,796
Wait, that's it?
(INHALES DEEPLY)
That's it, bro.
715
00:40:29,594 --> 00:40:32,473
You don't have to get
a FISA court order?
716
00:40:32,931 --> 00:40:35,434
Mmm-mmm. No, not here.
XKeyscore's under
702 authority,
717
00:40:35,533 --> 00:40:37,376
which means no warrants.
718
00:40:37,602 --> 00:40:41,106
Okay, but U.S. targets
then, you'd have to get
the court order?
719
00:40:41,205 --> 00:40:44,743
You mean FISA? Yeah,
they're just a big-ass
rubber stamp, dude.
720
00:40:44,809 --> 00:40:46,482
I mean, FISAjudges
are all appointed by
721
00:40:46,577 --> 00:40:49,148
the Chief Justice,
who's like, you know...
722
00:40:50,481 --> 00:40:53,257
Darth Vader when it comes
to national security. Boom.
723
00:40:53,751 --> 00:40:55,230
Here we go.
724
00:40:57,255 --> 00:41:02,671
Okay, okay. And the boy
at third base is...
725
00:41:04,896 --> 00:41:10,073
Nadim. Okay. He's 18.
726
00:41:11,336 --> 00:41:12,440
Salma says she wants
to marry him,
727
00:41:12,503 --> 00:41:14,312
but is scared of
telling her parents.
728
00:41:14,472 --> 00:41:19,751
What she doesn't know
is that his other name
is Nicolas.
729
00:41:21,279 --> 00:41:23,589
And he's currently banging
Geraldine and Julie.
730
00:41:25,616 --> 00:41:26,686
And...
731
00:41:31,522 --> 00:41:33,627
He and his Turkish mother
are here illegally.
732
00:41:38,930 --> 00:41:39,965
Hat's it.
733
00:41:42,767 --> 00:41:44,769
(MUSIC PLAYING)
734
00:41:48,473 --> 00:41:50,510
STRIPPER:
Ah, you like that?
735
00:41:50,608 --> 00:41:52,144
MARWAN: I love these.
736
00:41:55,380 --> 00:41:56,950
Man, what are
we doing here?
737
00:41:57,448 --> 00:41:59,826
You're making people
very happy.
738
00:41:59,884 --> 00:42:02,387
Mr. Marwan's bank
handles serious Saudi money,
739
00:42:02,487 --> 00:42:04,797
and a whole bunch of
Russian billionaires.
740
00:42:04,856 --> 00:42:09,066
What about any
al-Qaeda money?
Anything promising?
741
00:42:10,461 --> 00:42:12,702
Ed, I'm up for
a promotion soon.
742
00:42:12,797 --> 00:42:14,674
I will not forget
my friends.
743
00:42:15,466 --> 00:42:16,740
Thank you.
744
00:42:16,801 --> 00:42:18,371
This is all going kind
of fast though, right?
(LAUGHS)
745
00:42:18,469 --> 00:42:20,380
I mean, I just sent
some initial background.
746
00:42:20,471 --> 00:42:22,576
There he is!
The man!
747
00:42:22,673 --> 00:42:23,913
Hey, Manuan!
748
00:42:24,008 --> 00:42:27,182
Dave. How wonderful
to see you.
749
00:42:27,245 --> 00:42:28,519
Good to see you, too.
750
00:42:28,646 --> 00:42:33,425
Uh, I was counting, Marwan,
you snuck in an extra
half hour back there.
751
00:42:33,518 --> 00:42:37,364
(LAUGHS) I'm afraid
she was merely listening
to an old man's woes.
752
00:42:37,422 --> 00:42:38,423
(LAUGHS) on, I see.
753
00:42:38,523 --> 00:42:40,366
So, how are you,
Marwan?
754
00:42:42,593 --> 00:42:46,040
I must tell you,
Dave, since we met,
755
00:42:46,831 --> 00:42:50,005
my life has gone
somewhat topsy-tu rvy.
756
00:42:51,335 --> 00:42:53,178
Oh, no,
I'm sorry to hear that
757
00:42:53,671 --> 00:42:55,241
But your colleague
Charles here
758
00:42:55,339 --> 00:42:57,546
has graciously
offered his help.
759
00:42:57,608 --> 00:42:59,918
So I owe him and you
a great deal.
760
00:43:00,011 --> 00:43:01,718
Can I ask
what happened?
761
00:43:03,347 --> 00:43:05,918
My daughter had an...
762
00:43:06,017 --> 00:43:08,964
Marwan's daughter
took too many sleeping pills.
763
00:43:09,053 --> 00:43:10,623
She's all right.
764
00:43:10,721 --> 00:43:13,634
It had something to
do with her boyfriend,
who was recently deported.
765
00:43:13,724 --> 00:43:15,635
We're trying to secure
a visa for him.
766
00:43:15,726 --> 00:43:19,196
And even so,
I'm afraid that Salma will...
767
00:43:21,199 --> 00:43:23,611
I'm sorry.
I won't trouble you
with such matters.
768
00:43:23,701 --> 00:43:27,547
No, no, you... Hey.
You talk as much
as you want.
769
00:43:27,605 --> 00:43:30,279
All right?
Family comes first.
770
00:43:30,441 --> 00:43:31,886
(LAUGHS SOFTLY)
771
00:43:38,716 --> 00:43:40,593
(ALL LAUGHING)
772
00:43:40,918 --> 00:43:42,158
Whoa!
Oh!
773
00:43:43,054 --> 00:43:44,260
There's my beauty.
774
00:43:46,424 --> 00:43:48,165
I'm never
like this before.
775
00:43:48,259 --> 00:43:50,102
Oh, sure.
Nu, oi course.
776
00:43:50,161 --> 00:43:52,334
You sit down, huh?
Sit tight.
777
00:43:54,065 --> 00:43:56,909
You sit tight.
(BOTH LAUGHING)
778
00:43:59,070 --> 00:44:00,481
What the fuck's
going on?
779
00:44:00,571 --> 00:44:02,517
I have been acting
swiftly and effectively
780
00:44:02,607 --> 00:44:05,645
on the very good
signals intelligence
you've provided.
781
00:44:05,977 --> 00:44:08,150
And if his daughter
had died?
782
00:44:08,246 --> 00:44:09,987
We could have
used that too.
783
00:44:10,081 --> 00:44:12,152
Are you serious?
What, in the name
of a promotion?
784
00:44:12,250 --> 00:44:13,661
(BEEPS)
785
00:44:15,253 --> 00:44:18,700
Marwan can't be away
from his family right now.
786
00:44:18,789 --> 00:44:20,996
So in the morning,
when he's facing
a week in jail,
787
00:44:21,092 --> 00:44:24,164
we're going to offer him
a deal and he won't
turn it clown.
788
00:44:24,262 --> 00:44:25,434
Wait, jail? For what'?
789
00:44:26,430 --> 00:44:27,534
Drunk driving.
790
00:44:27,632 --> 00:44:30,010
Now, I want you
to call the police.
791
00:44:30,101 --> 00:44:31,341
Tell 'em you saw
a Mercedes headed north...
792
00:44:31,435 --> 00:44:32,641
No, he's not driving
right now.
793
00:44:32,703 --> 00:44:34,512
Look at him,
he'll kill himself.
794
00:44:37,608 --> 00:44:39,451
Okay. I'll call 'em.
Hey!
795
00:44:40,945 --> 00:44:42,117
He's not driving.
796
00:44:43,147 --> 00:44:46,959
Remind me, are you
authorized on any of
the NSA programs you used?
797
00:44:49,287 --> 00:44:51,233
So we're both doing
a little fucked up
shit here, huh?
798
00:44:52,723 --> 00:44:55,067
Watch yourself, Ed.
I will tell him
who you are.
799
00:44:56,627 --> 00:44:59,369
You reveal the identity
of an undercover officer,
800
00:44:59,463 --> 00:45:02,137
you're going to jail
for a lot longer than Marwan.
801
00:45:08,472 --> 00:45:09,473
MARWAN: Hey!
802
00:45:23,187 --> 00:45:24,257
Hey.
803
00:45:24,855 --> 00:45:26,163
Sorry I'm so late.
804
00:45:28,993 --> 00:45:30,267
How was work?
805
00:45:32,763 --> 00:45:34,071
Itwas, uh...
806
00:45:35,866 --> 00:45:38,176
(SIGHS)
It was all right. Yeah.
807
00:45:39,570 --> 00:45:42,779
(INHALES DEEPLY)
I have to wake up in,
like, three hours.
808
00:45:42,873 --> 00:45:44,352
My flighfs at mo.
809
00:45:45,276 --> 00:45:46,755
(SIGHS)
810
00:45:47,678 --> 00:45:49,624
Well, we'd better
be quick, then.
811
00:45:50,014 --> 00:45:51,357
(BOTH CHUCKLING)
812
00:46:08,199 --> 00:46:09,644
(MOANING)
813
00:46:11,636 --> 00:46:13,377
(BREATHES DEEPLY)
814
00:46:20,611 --> 00:46:22,557
(BOTH MOANING)
815
00:46:35,559 --> 00:46:38,836
I will provide
our intelligence
and law enforcement agencies
816
00:46:38,929 --> 00:46:41,739
with the tools they need
to track and take out
the terrorism
817
00:46:41,832 --> 00:46:44,813
without undermining
our constitution
and our freedom.
818
00:46:45,736 --> 00:46:47,477
(DOOR OPENS)
That means no more
illegal wiretapping
819
00:46:47,571 --> 00:46:48,811
of American citizens.
820
00:46:48,906 --> 00:46:52,149
No more ignoring the law
when ii is inconvenient.
821
00:46:52,243 --> 00:46:53,654
That is not who we are.
822
00:46:54,078 --> 00:46:55,318
Hey, hon.
Hey.
823
00:46:55,746 --> 00:46:58,522
(LAUGHS) What happened
to the London trip?
824
00:46:58,649 --> 00:47:00,492
{REPORTERS SPEAKING
INDISTINCTLY ON TV)
825
00:47:00,951 --> 00:47:02,430
Turns out I'm not going.
826
00:47:03,354 --> 00:47:04,526
Oh.
827
00:47:06,123 --> 00:47:08,034
What's going on?
Who's winning?
828
00:47:08,125 --> 00:47:10,196
CORRESPONDENT:
...and Michefle Obama voted
this morning in Chicago.
829
00:47:10,294 --> 00:47:11,705
I voted.
CORRESPONDENT: In Arizona--.
830
00:47:11,929 --> 00:47:13,033
Still early.
831
00:47:13,130 --> 00:47:15,269
...John and Cindy McCain
voted, and then they landed
in Colorado
832
00:47:15,366 --> 00:47:17,175
to defend a traditionally
Republican state
833
00:47:17,268 --> 00:47:18,679
that has turned
into a battleground.
834
00:47:18,769 --> 00:47:19,770
Hey. Let's see.
835
00:47:20,204 --> 00:47:23,378
WOLF: (on TV)
Obama ahead 67% to 32%-..
(EXHALES DEEPLY)
836
00:47:23,474 --> 00:47:26,614
Come on, big ears.
Check out Florida.
837
00:47:31,782 --> 00:47:33,887
Holy shit,
he's gonna win it!
(LAUGHS)
838
00:47:34,285 --> 00:47:36,356
What, Florida?
Yeah!
839
00:47:36,454 --> 00:47:38,456
That's big. Yeah.
It's huge!
840
00:47:40,124 --> 00:47:43,537
You can act all nonchalant,
but I know you were starting
to root for him.
841
00:47:44,395 --> 00:47:46,341
I've been watching
your inner liberal grow.
842
00:47:46,397 --> 00:47:48,570
For which I will take
a modest percentage
of the credit.
843
00:47:48,666 --> 00:47:50,668
And you deserve it.
(LINDSAY LAUGHING)
844
00:47:50,735 --> 00:47:51,805
(CLEARS TH ROAT)
845
00:47:54,238 --> 00:47:55,308
What is this?
846
00:47:55,373 --> 00:47:56,579
WOLF: ...in Missouri.
847
00:47:56,741 --> 00:47:59,381
56% for McCain,
43% for Obama.
848
00:47:59,477 --> 00:48:02,981
Oh, yeah, that. Just.-.
Leave that there.
That's, uh...
849
00:48:04,482 --> 00:48:07,053
Russian hackers.
The Agency says
850
00:48:07,151 --> 00:48:09,688
they can activate
webcams now. So...
851
00:48:09,754 --> 00:48:10,755
That's creepy.
852
00:48:10,855 --> 00:48:13,096
Yes. It's really
bothering me.
853
00:48:14,325 --> 00:48:16,737
Whatever. It's not
a big deal. You shouldn't
let it bother you.
854
00:48:16,861 --> 00:48:18,568
It's not
a big deal?
No.
855
00:48:18,662 --> 00:48:21,006
What, that someone
could be watching you
right now?
856
00:48:21,599 --> 00:48:24,273
No, I'm not
hiding anything.
857
00:48:25,403 --> 00:48:29,010
(EXHALES DEEPLY)
That's such a bullshit line.
What is?
858
00:48:29,106 --> 00:48:31,552
I have nothing
to hide.
I don't.
859
00:48:31,609 --> 00:48:32,781
Everyone does.
860
00:48:33,577 --> 00:48:35,887
Okay, well then,
what do I have to hide?
861
00:48:36,614 --> 00:48:38,719
(SIG HS) Forget it.
No, what do
I have to hide?
862
00:48:38,783 --> 00:48:40,626
No, never...
Let's just drop it.
863
00:48:40,718 --> 00:48:44,063
Well, apparently you
think that I'm hiding
something, so...(LAUGHS)
864
00:48:44,121 --> 00:48:46,567
Okay, the other day,
your computer was open,
865
00:48:46,624 --> 00:48:49,434
and I happened to notice
you were on the site
where we met,
866
00:48:49,527 --> 00:48:50,767
and you were looking
at other guys.
867
00:48:50,861 --> 00:48:53,034
You just were looking
at my computer?
868
00:48:53,864 --> 00:48:55,138
I wouldn't have
even brought this up.
869
00:48:55,232 --> 00:48:57,234
You asked me,
"What do I have to hide?"
870
00:48:57,301 --> 00:48:59,303
That's something
you're not telling me.
871
00:49:01,205 --> 00:49:05,779
(STUTTERS)
Well, it's not...
I don't do anything,
872
00:49:05,876 --> 00:49:08,083
I don't meet any
of those people.
873
00:49:11,148 --> 00:49:12,786
You're gone for weeks
at a time.
874
00:49:12,917 --> 00:49:15,397
So it's like
I'm peering into
other peoples' lives
875
00:49:15,486 --> 00:49:17,488
because my own is
just temporarily on hold.
876
00:49:18,722 --> 00:49:20,065
That sounds like
an excuse.
877
00:49:21,158 --> 00:49:22,398
It's the truth.
878
00:49:25,129 --> 00:49:26,267
(SIGHS)
879
00:49:38,843 --> 00:49:42,347
I should have told you.
And I didn't.
880
00:49:42,446 --> 00:49:46,087
I'm really sorry.
But it's not a big deal.
881
00:49:50,921 --> 00:49:51,922
Hey.
882
00:49:56,026 --> 00:49:57,369
(BREATHES DEEPLY)
883
00:50:01,098 --> 00:50:04,636
Look at me.
I don't want anyone else.
884
00:50:06,470 --> 00:50:08,177
I don't want
any other life.
885
00:50:09,773 --> 00:50:10,808
Okay?
886
00:50:25,523 --> 00:50:26,968
Listen, uh...
887
00:50:29,193 --> 00:50:32,538
I didn't go to London today
'cause I resigned.
888
00:50:34,698 --> 00:50:35,733
What?
889
00:50:36,166 --> 00:50:38,009
It was personal differences,
890
00:50:38,068 --> 00:50:40,173
and it was a matter
of principle.
891
00:50:41,305 --> 00:50:42,875
Can you tell me
anything else?
892
00:50:46,577 --> 00:50:47,920
Do you get
reposted, or...
893
00:50:48,012 --> 00:50:50,652
No, no, I resigned
from the CIA.
894
00:50:52,182 --> 00:50:54,184
LINDSAY: So what does
that mean? What do we do?
895
00:50:54,251 --> 00:50:57,698
I don't know. I'll figure
it out, but listen, I...
896
00:51:00,224 --> 00:51:03,603
This is a good thing.
Trust me.
897
00:51:08,265 --> 00:51:09,505
I do.
898
00:51:11,702 --> 00:51:13,079
(LAUGHS SOFTLY)
899
00:51:15,839 --> 00:51:17,182
(EXHALES DEEPLY)
900
00:51:20,210 --> 00:51:21,848
He'!-
901
00:51:22,279 --> 00:51:23,451
He's gonna win.
902
00:51:25,049 --> 00:51:26,585
WOLF: (ON TV) 52% for Obama,
48% for McCain.
903
00:51:26,684 --> 00:51:27,890
Yeah, he'd better.
904
00:51:29,186 --> 00:51:33,100
CNN can now project that
Barack Obama, 47 years old,
905
00:51:33,190 --> 00:51:35,898
will become the President
of the United States-
(PEOPLE CHEERING)
906
00:51:36,460 --> 00:51:39,964
OBAMA: {ON W3 Every agency
and department should know
that this administration
907
00:51:40,064 --> 00:51:41,304
stands on the side
908
00:51:41,398 --> 00:51:43,537
not of those who seek
to withhold information,
909
00:51:43,601 --> 00:51:45,444
but those who seek
to make it known.
910
00:51:48,105 --> 00:51:49,948
GLENN: Janine is
the website editor
911
00:51:50,040 --> 00:51:52,987
of a small stateside office
of a British newspaper,
912
00:51:53,077 --> 00:51:55,614
up against the most powerful
government in the world.
913
00:51:55,713 --> 00:51:56,953
EWEN: She won't be bullied.
914
00:51:57,381 --> 00:51:59,418
We need to establish
that we're not compromising
915
00:51:59,483 --> 00:52:01,326
national security
by publishing.
916
00:52:01,418 --> 00:52:02,954
GLENN: We need
to have alternatives.
917
00:52:03,053 --> 00:52:04,396
Listen, Ed,
918
00:52:04,455 --> 00:52:06,833
the real issue here is that
they, the White House,
919
00:52:06,924 --> 00:52:10,235
are aware that Janine
has a leaked top secret
FISA court order.
920
00:52:10,294 --> 00:52:11,466
Anything could happen.
921
00:52:11,562 --> 00:52:12,973
They mum subpoena
me Guardian
922
00:52:13,063 --> 00:52:14,133
and, for that matter,
they could
923
00:52:14,231 --> 00:52:15,574
break through
that door any minute,
924
00:52:15,633 --> 00:52:17,613
ending all of this.
925
00:52:17,668 --> 00:52:19,909
We are running
out of time.
926
00:52:19,970 --> 00:52:23,076
We seriously have t0
think about doing this
on our own website.
927
00:52:23,140 --> 00:52:24,448
We have no choice.
928
00:52:24,508 --> 00:52:26,317
Wait, you can't just
start dumping articles
929
00:52:26,443 --> 00:52:28,252
on the Internet, Glenn!
Be serious.
930
00:52:28,312 --> 00:52:30,986
Look at WikiLeaks.
It destroyed
their credibility.
931
00:52:31,081 --> 00:52:32,651
Look, Ed,
you said it yourself,
932
00:52:32,750 --> 00:52:36,163
ifthis isn't done properly,
the world isn't
gonna take notice.
933
00:52:36,253 --> 00:52:39,632
You need
experienced journalists
to lead the public
934
00:52:39,690 --> 00:52:42,170
through some very,
very complicated stories.
935
00:52:42,259 --> 00:52:43,761
We are
experienced journalists.
936
00:52:44,328 --> 00:52:45,671
My feeling...
(PHONE RINGING)
937
00:52:52,970 --> 00:52:56,179
Has anyone
called here before'?
Not once. Not in three weeks.
938
00:52:56,273 --> 00:52:57,843
Well, I'll...
Shall I answer it?
939
00:52:57,975 --> 00:52:59,613
I'll tell 'em it's
the wrong number.
940
00:53:01,278 --> 00:53:02,450
Yes?
941
00:53:03,947 --> 00:53:05,358
No, I don't.
942
00:53:06,984 --> 00:53:08,463
Okay. Thank you.
943
00:53:11,288 --> 00:53:13,199
Asking if I want
turndown service.
944
00:53:13,290 --> 00:53:15,793
She said the
"Do not disturb" sign
was off the door.
945
00:53:21,331 --> 00:53:22,571
(DOOR CLOSES)
946
00:53:28,706 --> 00:53:30,481
(EWEN SIGHS)
947
00:53:32,309 --> 00:53:33,652
(DOOR CLOSES)
948
00:53:33,877 --> 00:53:35,049
So?
949
00:53:36,246 --> 00:53:39,318
Do we wait?
Or go on our own?
950
00:53:41,051 --> 00:53:42,223
Look, I said
from the beginning
951
00:53:42,319 --> 00:53:45,323
that how you publish
is your business,
952
00:53:45,389 --> 00:53:47,164
and I trust you.
953
00:53:47,224 --> 00:53:50,000
The only thing I ask
is you study the data,
you be responsible,
954
00:53:50,060 --> 00:53:52,734
no names, no specifics,
anything ongoing
955
00:53:52,830 --> 00:53:54,935
that's critical,
you don't release.
956
00:53:55,032 --> 00:53:57,444
You just stick to the issue
of mass surveillance
957
00:53:57,534 --> 00:53:58,569
and let the people decide.
958
00:53:58,669 --> 00:54:01,741
GLENN: You have our word on
that, but that's not the
question. We have to ask...
959
00:54:01,839 --> 00:54:03,512
EWEN: Look, Ed, Ed,
960
00:54:03,574 --> 00:54:05,952
right now the White House is
arranging a conference call
961
00:54:06,043 --> 00:54:08,114
between Janine and
the intelligence services.
962
00:54:08,212 --> 00:54:11,284
Now that's gonna happen
in a few hours.
963
00:54:11,381 --> 00:54:15,261
Let's at least wait for that,
see what they say to her.
964
00:54:19,857 --> 00:54:21,894
I'd say we pause a moment.
965
00:54:23,193 --> 00:54:24,570
EWEN: Yeah, I think
we should reassemble
966
00:54:24,628 --> 00:54:26,107
in this room after
the call takes place,
967
00:54:26,196 --> 00:54:29,871
so that's around midnight.
Be noon in New York.
968
00:54:30,601 --> 00:54:32,103
All right.
969
00:54:32,202 --> 00:54:34,546
I'll take another pass
at the PRISM story
in the meantime.
970
00:54:34,605 --> 00:54:38,485
Okay. We'll be
in our hotel room
if you need us, okay?
971
00:54:38,575 --> 00:54:39,576
Thanks, Ewen.
972
00:54:39,643 --> 00:54:40,815
Yeah.
Okay.
973
00:54:44,214 --> 00:54:45,557
(DOOR CLOSES)
974
00:54:48,418 --> 00:54:51,228
Uh, do you mind maybe
we take a break from that?
975
00:54:51,555 --> 00:54:53,091
For a second?
976
00:54:54,391 --> 00:54:56,667
Oh, yeah.
Sure, sorry.
(CAMERA BEE PS)
977
00:54:56,827 --> 00:55:00,240
You wanna take a look?
Might make you feel better.
978
00:55:00,397 --> 00:55:03,071
On. (LAUGHS)
It's not recording,
just on standby.
979
00:55:03,133 --> 00:55:04,476
Okay.
(LAUGHS)
980
00:55:06,804 --> 00:55:10,479
When did this start for you?
Not wanting your photo taken?
981
00:55:10,774 --> 00:55:13,152
Uh, probably in Japan.
(EXHALES DEEPLY)
982
00:55:13,243 --> 00:55:15,746
I remember every time
a camera got pointed at me,
983
00:55:15,813 --> 00:55:18,157
it was like...
Couldn't breathe.
984
00:55:19,149 --> 00:55:20,628
Why was that?
985
00:55:21,084 --> 00:55:25,464
I probably, uh, spent too much
time looking at other people
through cameras.
986
00:55:26,590 --> 00:55:28,866
Japan was your
first NSA job, right?
987
00:55:28,959 --> 00:55:33,931
Yeah, well,
as a contractor with Dell.
Had a lot of access.
988
00:55:34,431 --> 00:55:36,433
LAURA: Why'd you go
back after Geneva?
989
00:55:39,503 --> 00:55:43,178
'Cause the money,
and 'cause I wanted
to live in Japan.
990
00:55:43,273 --> 00:55:45,014
And because of Obama,
actually.
991
00:55:45,108 --> 00:55:47,714
You know, lthought
things were gonna
get better with him.
992
00:55:51,114 --> 00:55:52,491
I was wrong.
993
00:55:55,819 --> 00:55:57,958
(INDISTINCT CHATTER
OVER PA)
994
00:55:58,021 --> 00:55:59,193
LAURA".
What was I! like there?
995
00:56:00,290 --> 00:56:02,236
SNOWDEN: Well,
in the first pan' of my day,
996
00:56:02,326 --> 00:56:06,536
I was building this
round-the-clsck backup
system cailed Epic Shelter.
997
00:56:06,630 --> 00:56:09,133
So, if there was
some catastrophe,
998
00:56:09,199 --> 00:56:12,078
say, uh, terrorists
burned down every embassy
999
00:56:12,169 --> 00:56:14,706
and NSA post in
the Middle East.
1000
00:56:14,805 --> 00:56:19,481
This program would
ensure we wouldn't Jose
any of that data.
1001
00:56:19,810 --> 00:56:23,553
But then, I would
ha ve to put it aside
when visitors would show up.
1002
00:56:23,647 --> 00:56:24,648
Hi, Ed.
1003
00:56:24,715 --> 00:56:29,528
SNOWDEN; NSA wanted
to Impress the Japanese,
show them our reach.
1004
00:56:30,487 --> 00:56:33,229
They loved
the live drone feeds.
1005
00:56:33,323 --> 00:56:35,496
This is over Pakistan.
1006
00:56:36,393 --> 00:56:37,736
Right now.
1007
00:56:38,328 --> 00:56:40,069
(INDISTINCT CHATTER)
1008
00:56:40,497 --> 00:56:44,001
SNOWD EN: They were not
as thrilled to ream that
we wanted them to help us
1009
00:56:44,067 --> 00:56:46,206
spy on
the Japanese population.
1010
00:56:47,337 --> 00:56:50,079
They said it was
against their laws.
1011
00:56:51,241 --> 00:56:53,414
Course we tapped
the entire country anyway.
1012
00:56:54,378 --> 00:56:56,358
And we didn't stop there,
1013
00:56:56,413 --> 00:56:58,552
'cause once we owned
their communications systems,
1014
00:56:58,615 --> 00:57:01,562
we started going after
their physical infrastructure.
1015
00:57:01,618 --> 00:57:05,930
We'd siip these
little sleeper programs
into power grids,
1016
00:57:06,023 --> 00:57:07,969
dams, hospitals,
1017
00:57:08,058 --> 00:57:10,129
and the idea was
if the day came
1018
00:57:10,227 --> 00:57:12,605
when Japan was
no longer an ally,
1019
00:57:12,696 --> 00:57:14,039
it'd be lights out.
1020
00:57:14,131 --> 00:57:15,940
(POWERING DOWN)
1021
00:57:17,200 --> 00:57:18,474
And ii wasn't
just the Japanese.
1022
00:57:18,568 --> 00:57:22,072
We were planting malware
in Mexico, Germany,
1023
00:57:22,139 --> 00:57:23,880
Brazil, Austria.
1024
00:57:25,409 --> 00:57:28,913
I mean, China
I can understand,
or Russia, or Iran,
1025
00:57:28,979 --> 00:57:31,721
or Venezuela, okay.
But Austria?
1026
00:57:31,782 --> 00:57:32,988
(COWBELL DINGS)
1027
00:57:33,450 --> 00:57:36,488
You're also being ordered
to follow most world leaders
1028
00:57:36,586 --> 00:57:38,156
and heads of industry.
1029
00:57:38,255 --> 00:57:41,566
You know, you're tracking
trade deals, sex scandals,
1030
00:57:41,892 --> 00:57:44,566
diplomatic cables
to give the U. S.
1031
00:57:44,628 --> 00:57:47,131
an advantage in
negotiations at the G8,
1032
00:57:47,230 --> 00:57:50,803
or leverage over
Brazilian oil companies,
1033
00:57:50,901 --> 00:57:55,077
or helping to oust
some third-worm reader
who's not playing bah'.
1034
00:57:56,406 --> 00:57:58,647
And ultimately,
the truth sinks in
1035
00:57:58,742 --> 00:58:01,586
that no matter
what justification
you're sefling youiself,
1036
00:58:01,645 --> 00:58:03,955
this is not about terrorism.
1037
00:58:05,482 --> 00:58:07,291
Terrorism is the excuse.
1038
00:58:10,253 --> 00:58:14,963
This is about economic
and social control.
1039
00:58:16,593 --> 00:58:19,096
And the only thing
you're really protecting
1040
00:58:19,162 --> 00:58:21,540
is the supremacy
of your government.
1041
00:58:30,841 --> 00:58:34,015
LAU RA: Were you thinking about
going to journalists then?
1042
00:58:34,111 --> 00:58:37,058
No. No, that wouldn't have
occurred to me back then.
1043
00:58:38,648 --> 00:58:42,687
I just thought, you know,
the system will self-correct,
1044
00:58:42,786 --> 00:58:46,290
and the President
will keep his promise
that got him elected...
1045
00:58:48,458 --> 00:58:52,201
That's actually when
I first started reading
about you and your films.
1046
00:58:52,295 --> 00:58:53,365
It was in Glenn's blog.
1047
00:58:53,463 --> 00:58:56,535
You were being detained
in airports for hours.
1048
00:58:56,633 --> 00:59:00,479
Thirty-seven times.
For investigating
your own country's wars.
1049
00:59:00,637 --> 00:59:05,143
(SIGHS) That's why I'm going
back to Berlin t0 edit.
You can trust me with this.
1050
00:59:05,642 --> 00:59:07,815
I do. Yeah.
1051
00:59:08,979 --> 00:59:12,722
I haven't trusted
anyone in years.
1052
00:59:15,986 --> 00:59:21,561
It was a welcome change
when they put me on
terrorism watch duty.
1053
00:59:22,225 --> 00:59:25,934
Every day, Vd go in
and I'd get starting
points fur SIGiNT,
1054
00:59:26,029 --> 00:59:28,669
which is signals intelligence.
(KEYBOARD CLACKING)
1055
00:59:30,167 --> 00:59:33,910
A lot of them were American,
which felt strange,
1056
00:59:34,004 --> 00:59:35,847
but you just keep
reminding yourself,
1057
00:59:35,906 --> 00:59:39,911
I could stop
a dirty bomb attack
and save thousands o! lives.
1058
00:59:40,577 --> 00:59:43,956
The thing is,
you're not just following
your bad guy targets.
1059
00:59:44,047 --> 00:59:46,584
You're also following
their metadata,
1060
00:59:46,683 --> 00:59:50,688
which is basically
ail the phone numbers
that they're in touch with.
1061
00:59:51,588 --> 00:59:55,297
Let's say your target
is a shady Iranian banker
1062
00:59:55,392 --> 00:59:57,929
operating out of Beirut,
okay.
1063
00:59:58,028 --> 01:00:00,440
So you're watching his stuff,
but you're also watching
1064
01:00:00,530 --> 01:00:02,976
all the people
that he talks to.
1065
01:00:03,066 --> 01:00:05,637
Including,
you know, his cousin,
1066
01:00:05,735 --> 01:00:08,272
who's/us! some dentist
living in Buffalo.
1067
01:00:08,371 --> 01:00:11,147
And then you have to watch
all of that guy's contacts.
1068
01:00:11,241 --> 01:00:14,620
And by the time
you go a third hop out
from {he original target,
1069
01:00:14,711 --> 01:00:20,218
you're watching this bartender
chat with her mother
about Botox.
1070
01:00:20,283 --> 01:00:25,289
'Cause three hops from anyone
with, say, 40 contacts,
1071
01:00:25,388 --> 01:00:27,994
you're looking at a list
of 2.5 million people.
1072
01:00:30,560 --> 01:00:32,665
And there's ma!
moment when
1073
01:00:32,762 --> 01:00:36,335
you're sitting there and
the scale of it hits you.
1074
01:00:36,433 --> 01:00:41,143
The NSA is really tracking
every cell phone in the world.
1075
01:00:41,238 --> 01:00:43,081
No matter who you are,
1076
01:00:43,140 --> 01:00:45,814
every day of your life,
you're sitting in a database
1077
01:00:45,909 --> 01:00:48,480
just ready
to be looked at.
1078
01:00:48,578 --> 01:00:50,285
(INDISTINCT CHATTER)
1079
01:00:59,022 --> 01:01:04,665
SNOWDEN: And not just
terrorists, or countries,
or corporations, but you.
1080
01:01:13,270 --> 01:01:15,307
Was Lindsay with you
in Japan?
1081
01:01:17,107 --> 01:01:20,680
Japan was difficult
for us.
1082
01:01:23,680 --> 01:01:25,660
I guess you couldn't
talk about your work.
1083
01:01:25,849 --> 01:01:27,328
No. (LAUGHS)
1084
01:01:28,852 --> 01:01:32,561
There was this one night,
uh, towards the end,
1085
01:01:34,291 --> 01:01:37,170
when, uh, we were supposed
to go climb Mount Fuji
the next day...
1086
01:01:41,298 --> 01:01:43,073
(some PLAYING)
1087
01:01:44,501 --> 01:01:45,502
Wow!
1088
01:01:47,404 --> 01:01:49,884
Are you gonna
post that on Twitter?
1089
01:01:49,973 --> 01:01:50,974
No.
1090
01:01:51,308 --> 01:01:53,720
They're just for me.
What do you think?
1091
01:01:56,346 --> 01:01:58,257
You should delete those.
1092
01:01:58,415 --> 01:02:01,089
That's not quite
the artistic critique
I was going for.
1093
01:02:01,351 --> 01:02:03,058
I'm sorry. You just...
You should...
1094
01:02:03,153 --> 01:02:04,928
You can't have
stuff like that
on your hard drive.
1095
01:02:05,021 --> 01:02:06,056
LINDSAY: Yes, I can.
1096
01:02:06,156 --> 01:02:10,070
Can you just please...
I'm asking you,
can you delete them?
1097
01:02:10,860 --> 01:02:12,168
Russian hackers again?
1098
01:02:12,229 --> 01:02:13,264
No...
1099
01:02:15,865 --> 01:02:17,173
Is it us?
1100
01:02:19,936 --> 01:02:21,074
It's classified.
1101
01:02:22,672 --> 01:02:23,878
Am I a target?
1102
01:02:23,940 --> 01:02:25,214
Of course not.
1103
01:02:26,509 --> 01:02:28,750
Clearly someone is looking
at my nude portraits.
1104
01:02:28,845 --> 01:02:30,722
Okay. I shouldn't
have brought it up.
1105
01:02:30,780 --> 01:02:33,124
All right? It's issues
of national security.
1106
01:02:35,218 --> 01:02:37,391
Well, lam flattered
that my boobs
1107
01:02:37,454 --> 01:02:39,365
are considered an issue
of national security,
1108
01:02:39,422 --> 01:02:41,129
but you're gonna have to do
a lot better than that.
1109
01:02:41,224 --> 01:02:43,704
I'd rather not talk
about stuff that could
land us in jail.
1110
01:02:43,760 --> 01:02:45,535
LINDSAY: So that's what
the Band-Aids are about, then?
1111
01:02:45,595 --> 01:02:47,438
And your camera phobia?
1112
01:02:47,530 --> 01:02:48,736
Because of work?
1113
01:02:49,699 --> 01:02:51,110
Are they watching us?
1114
01:02:51,868 --> 01:02:53,472
Who are they watching?
No one, okay?
1115
01:02:53,570 --> 01:02:55,208
Let's just stop
talking about it.
1116
01:02:56,406 --> 01:02:59,944
Let's go to bed,
and wake up in the morning,
1117
01:03:01,378 --> 01:03:03,654
and go climb this
fucking mountain.
All right?
1118
01:03:04,714 --> 01:03:06,091
Of course we're not
gonna talk about it.
1119
01:03:06,216 --> 01:03:07,490
What is that
supposed to mean?
1120
01:03:07,584 --> 01:03:10,064
It means that we don't talk
about anything anymore.
1121
01:03:10,754 --> 01:03:13,394
You work 12-hour days,
you come home depressed,
1122
01:03:13,456 --> 01:03:15,800
you play fucking video games,
and then you fall asleep.
1123
01:03:15,892 --> 01:03:17,565
Yeah, I'm tired
'cause I have a job.
1124
01:03:17,627 --> 01:03:19,072
That's what pays
for this apartment
1125
01:03:19,129 --> 01:03:20,836
in the most expensive city
in the world.
1126
01:03:20,930 --> 01:03:24,173
Which you asked me to come to
knowing that I did not have
a work visa.
1127
01:03:24,267 --> 01:03:25,473
Okay, what if
you had one?
1128
01:03:25,568 --> 01:03:29,106
Would you really give up
your beautiful life
of eating and sleeping
1129
01:03:29,172 --> 01:03:31,743
and going out all the time?
You think you'd really
want a career?
1130
01:03:31,808 --> 01:03:35,153
A career like yours?
Where I'm miserable
all the time? No.
1131
01:03:35,245 --> 01:03:37,418
That's called
responsibility.
1132
01:03:38,081 --> 01:03:40,152
(CHUCKLES) Fuck this.
1133
01:03:40,250 --> 01:03:42,093
You know what?
You have no fucking idea
1134
01:03:42,152 --> 01:03:44,826
what it's like
to be accountable
for other people's lives,
1135
01:03:44,921 --> 01:03:46,992
because you live
in a fairy tale land
1136
01:03:47,090 --> 01:03:49,001
where just there
are no consequences,
1137
01:03:49,092 --> 01:03:50,662
and no one ever gets hurt.
1138
01:03:51,528 --> 01:03:52,939
(SIGHS)
1139
01:03:53,663 --> 01:03:58,112
(VOICE BREAKING) No. No,
you, you don't get hurt.
1140
01:03:59,602 --> 01:04:00,945
(SOBS) I get
fucking crushed.
1141
01:04:01,037 --> 01:04:02,846
Fucking bullshit!
I've done nothing to you!
1142
01:04:02,939 --> 01:04:04,885
That's exactly right.
You have done nothing!
1143
01:04:05,942 --> 01:04:08,013
You don't hang outwith me,
you don't laugh with me,
1144
01:04:08,111 --> 01:04:10,955
you don't even
fucking touch me anymore.
1145
01:04:13,149 --> 01:04:14,389
I'm sorry.
Stop!
1146
01:04:14,984 --> 01:04:16,657
No! (SOBS)
1147
01:04:29,733 --> 01:04:32,145
We, uh, never made
it to Mount Fuji.
(LAUGHS SOFTLY)
1148
01:04:33,636 --> 01:04:37,311
And Lindsay left pretty
soon after that, and...
1149
01:04:38,975 --> 01:04:40,511
I was really lonely there.
1150
01:04:42,145 --> 01:04:44,216
But after three months,
I left too. I went back
to Maryland.
1151
01:04:45,715 --> 01:04:47,217
(DOORBELL RINGING)
1152
01:05:08,538 --> 01:05:09,676
(CHUCKLES)
1153
01:05:12,675 --> 01:05:14,245
And I promised her
I'd change.
1154
01:05:15,245 --> 01:05:17,088
And, uh, we moved
back in together.
1155
01:05:17,180 --> 01:05:18,523
(PIANO MUSIC PLAYING}
Make sure your
knees stay bent,
1156
01:05:18,581 --> 01:05:21,528
and then you can fully extend
once you feel stable. Ready?
1157
01:05:21,584 --> 01:05:23,621
One, two, three.
1158
01:05:24,354 --> 01:05:25,355
All the way up.
1159
01:05:25,422 --> 01:05:26,924
Now you wanna clench
between your knees.
1160
01:05:27,023 --> 01:05:29,435
It'll burn,
but it's a good burn.
1161
01:05:29,526 --> 01:05:30,470
Perfect.
1162
01:05:30,560 --> 01:05:32,039
Twirl around.
1163
01:05:33,596 --> 01:05:35,872
(CLAPPING)
Perfect! Oh, my God,
I'm so proud of you!
1164
01:05:35,932 --> 01:05:37,775
SNOWDEN:
When you're really happy,
1165
01:05:37,867 --> 01:05:41,212
there's a large part of you
that just wants to stay happy.
1166
01:05:45,375 --> 01:05:48,549
And you start to think,
what could be more
important than this?
1167
01:05:49,712 --> 01:05:51,214
What!
Is it okay?
1168
01:05:51,915 --> 01:05:54,054
Oh, my God.
It's so beautiful.
1169
01:05:55,585 --> 01:05:59,624
3NOWDEN: You know,
tots of people cruise
happily through fife.
1170
01:06:01,257 --> 01:06:02,736
Why can't I?
(CAMERA CLICKING)
1171
01:06:11,734 --> 01:06:13,270
And I went back
to work at the CIA.
1172
01:06:13,436 --> 01:06:15,074
With back-doors.-.
1173
01:06:15,138 --> 01:06:17,914
My official {me was
Solutions Consultant.
1174
01:06:18,842 --> 01:06:22,016
Basically I was hawking
overpriced hardware
for a living.
1175
01:06:22,111 --> 01:06:23,818
But I thought
you had resigned?
1176
01:06:23,913 --> 01:06:26,359
Yeah, well,
it was all contract work
after Geneva.
1177
01:06:26,449 --> 01:06:28,690
You know,
it's Bouz Allen Hamilton,
1178
01:06:28,785 --> 01:06:30,856
or Dell, in partnership
1179
01:06:30,954 --> 01:06:33,992
with CIA or NSA, DIA.
1180
01:06:34,591 --> 01:06:38,630
That's the intelligence
community's revolving door.
1181
01:06:40,163 --> 01:06:42,643
How was it?
Being back in the States?
1182
01:06:43,132 --> 01:06:46,670
It was, uh, it was
really good to be home.
1183
01:06:49,005 --> 01:06:53,147
But Maryland was where things
started to turn for me.
1184
01:06:53,877 --> 01:06:58,553
Every tlme I felt like
I was finally letting go
of all the anxiety
1185
01:06:58,648 --> 01:07:01,219
and all the questions that
used to keep me up at night,
1186
01:07:01,317 --> 01:07:05,231
I'd learn something else,
and I just couldn't ignore it.
1187
01:07:05,455 --> 01:07:09,232
Like, there were these
three high-ieve! officials
at the NSA,
1188
01:07:09,325 --> 01:07:12,033
Bin Binney, Ed Loomis,
and Kirk Wiebe.
1189
01:07:12,128 --> 01:07:16,338
They'd been filing complaints
about abuse and overreach
for years.
1190
01:07:16,399 --> 01:07:20,211
That's all they did,
they just filed complaints,
1191
01:07:20,303 --> 01:07:23,477
and the FBI
raided their homes.
1192
01:07:23,540 --> 01:07:25,076
Then there was Thomas Drake.
1193
01:07:25,174 --> 01:07:27,154
Like the other three guys,
Drake was trying
1194
01:07:27,210 --> 01:07:29,486
to change things
from the inside.
1195
01:07:29,546 --> 01:07:31,992
Bu! when nothing worked,
he did go to the press.
1196
01:07:32,048 --> 01:07:35,996
So they hit him
with the Espionage Act,
and we were shocked.
1197
01:07:36,052 --> 01:07:37,998
The whale imel community.
1198
01:07:38,054 --> 01:07:39,362
SCOTT: (ON VIDEO)
Why do you think
you were charged?
1199
01:07:39,422 --> 01:07:40,992
To send a chilling message.
1200
01:07:41,357 --> 01:07:42,358
To whom?
1201
01:07:42,425 --> 01:07:45,031
To other whistleblowers,
to others in the government,
1202
01:07:45,094 --> 01:07:47,199
not to speak out.
1203
01:07:47,263 --> 01:07:51,336
Do not tell truth to power.
We'll hammer you.
1204
01:07:52,902 --> 01:07:55,576
0'BRIAN: There's a new
program being developed
1205
01:07:55,672 --> 01:07:58,016
at the NSA's op
center on Oahu.
1206
01:07:59,008 --> 01:08:02,581
You'd be going up against
Chinese cyber divisions.
1207
01:08:03,846 --> 01:08:05,018
You interested?
1208
01:08:07,617 --> 01:08:10,928
Won't be
the vast sums of money
you're making now,
1209
01:08:11,020 --> 01:08:13,466
but you'd be performing
a critical service
for your country.
1210
01:08:13,556 --> 01:08:14,899
I know that's
important to you.
1211
01:08:14,958 --> 01:08:17,268
You mean service
like in Geneva?
1212
01:08:17,360 --> 01:08:20,204
Matt was a mistake.
Shouldn't have
pushed you into that.
1213
01:08:20,263 --> 01:08:21,298
You didn't push me
into it.
1214
01:08:21,397 --> 01:08:23,536
I asked for exposure
to field ops,
you gave it to me.
1215
01:08:23,600 --> 01:08:25,307
I won't hold that
against you.
1216
01:08:27,370 --> 01:08:29,873
Is there something
you do hold against me?
1217
01:08:33,910 --> 01:08:35,218
You didn't tell me
we were running
1218
01:08:35,278 --> 01:08:37,554
a dragnet on
the whole world, Corbin.
1219
01:08:40,717 --> 01:08:42,492
(nos BARKING)
1220
01:08:49,058 --> 01:08:51,231
(GUNSHOTS)
1221
01:09:01,170 --> 01:09:02,410
Great shooting, Ed.
1222
01:09:02,472 --> 01:09:03,815
Thank you.
1223
01:09:04,273 --> 01:09:05,843
That's terrific.
1224
01:09:06,409 --> 01:09:08,753
(LAUGHS) It's the one thing
in the Army I was good at.
1225
01:09:14,751 --> 01:09:16,458
OBRIAN:
You ever think, Ed,
1226
01:09:16,519 --> 01:09:21,366
since the Second World War,
it's been 60 years
and still no WW Ill.
1227
01:09:22,291 --> 01:09:23,429
Why?
1228
01:09:24,427 --> 01:09:28,341
Because we've used
our power generally
for the good of the world.
1229
01:09:29,032 --> 01:09:31,945
For prosperity, order.
1230
01:09:32,168 --> 01:09:33,875
How can we defend
ourselves against
1231
01:09:33,970 --> 01:09:37,179
nuclear war, terror attacks,
cyber-attacks
1232
01:09:37,273 --> 01:09:39,651
without a centralized
intel factory
1233
01:09:39,709 --> 01:09:41,620
working around the world
night and day?
1234
01:09:42,378 --> 01:09:45,222
So we should catalogue
billions of people's lives?
1235
01:09:45,314 --> 01:09:48,693
CYBRIAN: Most people already
catalogue their lives
for public consumption.
1236
01:09:48,785 --> 01:09:51,959
Well, they catalogue
part of their lives,
and they do it by choice.
1237
01:09:52,021 --> 01:09:54,467
We're not giving
them the choice.
We're just taking everything.
1238
01:09:54,524 --> 01:09:58,301
Most Americans
don't want freedom,
they want security.
1239
01:09:59,128 --> 01:10:00,698
It's a simple bargain. If...
1240
01:10:00,797 --> 01:10:02,743
Good girl! Good girl!
(GROWLS)
1241
01:10:03,633 --> 01:10:05,374
If you want to play
with all the new toys
1242
01:10:05,468 --> 01:10:08,415
and be safe, you pay
the price of admission.
1243
01:10:10,006 --> 01:10:12,646
Yeah, except people,
1244
01:10:12,709 --> 01:10:14,484
they don't even know
they've made that bargain.
1245
01:10:14,544 --> 01:10:16,820
Where's the modern
battlefield, soldier?
1246
01:10:18,648 --> 01:10:19,649
Everywhere.
1247
01:10:19,982 --> 01:10:22,360
(MAN SHOUTING)
CTBRIAN: What's the first
rule of battle?
1248
01:10:22,518 --> 01:10:24,156
Never reveal
your position.
1249
01:10:25,088 --> 01:10:29,901
And if one
unauthorized person knew?
If Congress knew?
1250
01:10:29,992 --> 01:10:31,733
So would the enemy.
1251
01:10:31,828 --> 01:10:35,867
That, Mr. Snowden,
is the state of the world.
1252
01:10:35,932 --> 01:10:39,607
Secrecy is security,
and security is victory.
1253
01:10:40,103 --> 01:10:42,447
(PEOPLE SPEAKING INDISTINCTLY
IN THE DISTANCE)
1254
01:10:43,706 --> 01:10:45,185
(nos BARKS)
1255
01:10:47,343 --> 01:10:48,879
Thank you, sir.
1256
01:10:50,513 --> 01:10:51,719
Someone I want you
to meet.
1257
01:10:51,781 --> 01:10:53,761
MAN: Beautiful day
for it, wasn't it?
Perfect weather.
1258
01:10:53,850 --> 01:10:56,353
Mr. Lowell. Jim.
1259
01:10:56,786 --> 01:10:58,766
How are you?
Dorian.
1260
01:10:58,855 --> 01:11:00,232
Alan.
Nice to see you.
1261
01:11:00,289 --> 01:11:01,393
O'BRIANI
Welcome to the U.S.
1262
01:11:01,457 --> 01:11:03,061
H0w'd you make
out today, Corbin?
1263
01:11:03,192 --> 01:11:05,968
Uh, very mediocre.
Nothing like Ed here.
1264
01:11:06,562 --> 01:11:09,406
Apparently the Army's training
people to shoot straight.
1265
01:11:09,465 --> 01:11:11,274
So this is Ed Snowden.
1266
01:11:11,367 --> 01:11:12,573
Yes, sir.
Pleasure to meet you.
1267
01:11:12,702 --> 01:11:15,080
The brains
behind Epic Shelter.
That's right.
1268
01:11:15,138 --> 01:11:16,446
That's brilliant work.
Thank you, sir.
1269
01:11:16,539 --> 01:11:17,950
Yeah, I had a few questions
I wanted to ask you.
1270
01:11:18,040 --> 01:11:20,884
Uh, Jim. Will you
excuse me, gentlemen?
1271
01:11:21,310 --> 01:11:22,755
Excuse me, Alan.
Nice to meet you.
1272
01:11:23,546 --> 01:11:27,995
Yeah, it's proving very useful
to our UAV program.
1273
01:11:28,084 --> 01:11:31,293
Yes, I heard.
With foreign site
intel transfer.
1274
01:11:31,387 --> 01:11:32,957
Transfers happen
on collection now.
1275
01:11:33,055 --> 01:11:36,400
They go straight
to the Pentagon,
Mossad if they need it.
1276
01:11:36,492 --> 01:11:39,234
Actionable immediately.
No one sees it.
1277
01:11:39,395 --> 01:11:40,635
It's improved
the response time
1278
01:11:40,730 --> 01:11:42,607
of our drone pilots
by a factor of ten.
1279
01:11:43,232 --> 01:11:46,645
Tell me, Ed. You worked
signals intelligence
in Japan too, yes?
1280
01:11:46,736 --> 01:11:47,806
Yes, sir.
1281
01:11:47,904 --> 01:11:49,645
How'd you like it?
1282
01:11:49,739 --> 01:11:53,243
It was a very
empowering job, sir.
(LAUGHS)
1283
01:11:53,342 --> 01:11:57,518
With this new job in Hawaii,
you'd have even more access.
1284
01:11:57,613 --> 01:12:01,755
I asked Corbin to
start the conversation.
But the offer is mine.
1285
01:12:03,786 --> 01:12:05,356
Take your time.
1286
01:12:05,454 --> 01:12:06,592
It's going to
take a few months
1287
01:12:06,656 --> 01:12:08,966
to get this program
on its feet.
1288
01:12:09,025 --> 01:12:11,665
If you'll excuse me,
gentlemen, I see dinner.
1289
01:12:12,795 --> 01:12:14,604
ATTENDANT: Beer, sir?
Thank you.
1290
01:12:15,298 --> 01:12:17,107
Sir, for you?
Uh, no, thank you.
1291
01:12:22,772 --> 01:12:24,809
Epic Shelter was meant
as a backup program.
1292
01:12:26,108 --> 01:12:29,521
Lowell is creating
this position for you, Ed.
1293
01:12:29,612 --> 01:12:32,183
You'd be the first contractor
outside Fort Meade
1294
01:12:32,281 --> 01:12:33,954
working counter-cyber.
1295
01:12:35,117 --> 01:12:37,188
It's your ticket to the top.
1296
01:12:44,126 --> 01:12:46,003
(MEAT SIZZLING)
1297
01:12:48,297 --> 01:12:49,970
POLYGRAPH ADMINISTRATOR:
Do you believe
the United States
1298
01:12:50,032 --> 01:12:52,012
is the greatest country
in the world?
1299
01:12:52,068 --> 01:12:53,706
Yes.
(BEEPING)
1300
01:12:55,238 --> 01:12:56,239
POLYGRAPH ADMINISTRATOR:
Have you ever used
1301
01:12:56,339 --> 01:12:59,013
any programs
you were unauthorized for'?
1302
01:13:04,981 --> 01:13:06,016
SNOWDENI No.
1303
01:13:06,482 --> 01:13:07,483
(BEEPS)
1304
01:13:18,427 --> 01:13:21,203
LINDSAY: We're not usually
supposed to submit
our own work,
1305
01:13:21,264 --> 01:13:24,575
but my editor said
she'd make an exception.
1306
01:13:24,667 --> 01:13:25,702
Pretty neat, huh?
1307
01:13:31,007 --> 01:13:33,180
(GRUNTS) I get to
submit an entry.
1308
01:13:36,379 --> 01:13:38,950
You ignoring me
on purpose, orwhat?
1309
01:13:39,048 --> 01:13:41,551
No. Sorry.
Shit. Uh.“
1310
01:13:42,018 --> 01:13:44,396
(SIGHS)
I was just thinking.
1311
01:13:44,453 --> 01:13:45,693
About what?
1312
01:13:50,960 --> 01:13:53,372
I wanted to talk to you
about it at dinner,
1313
01:13:53,429 --> 01:13:55,705
but let's just...
Will you come sit down?
1314
01:13:57,133 --> 01:13:59,238
Is everything okay?
1315
01:13:59,302 --> 01:14:00,542
Yeah.
1316
01:14:01,570 --> 01:14:02,810
Um...
1317
01:14:03,572 --> 01:14:07,543
The, uh, Deputy Director
of the NSA...
1318
01:14:07,610 --> 01:14:09,089
Hmm?
(INHALES DEEPLY)
1319
01:14:09,245 --> 01:14:11,418
He offered me
a new position.
1320
01:14:11,580 --> 01:14:14,561
And, uh,
that was a while back,
and now they need an answer.
1321
01:14:15,785 --> 01:14:17,890
Well, is it something
you want to do?
1322
01:14:19,288 --> 01:14:21,097
I'd be good at it.
1323
01:14:23,059 --> 01:14:25,505
Can you tell me
anything about it?
(LAUGHING)
1324
01:14:25,795 --> 01:14:27,570
(LAUGHS)
You know I can't.
1325
01:14:27,630 --> 01:14:30,474
I know. Mission first
1326
01:14:31,133 --> 01:14:32,476
(INHALES DEEPLY)
1327
01:14:32,635 --> 01:14:35,241
Well, are there social perks?
White House galas, maybe?
1328
01:14:35,438 --> 01:14:39,443
The position
is in Hawaii.
1329
01:14:47,416 --> 01:14:50,295
We worked really hard
to get where we're at.
1330
01:14:51,754 --> 01:14:54,963
And you're willing to
just rip it all up again?
1331
01:14:55,024 --> 01:14:56,935
Like we finally have
a house that we love,
1332
01:14:56,993 --> 01:14:58,836
and a job that I like,
and real friends,
1333
01:14:58,928 --> 01:15:00,930
and we're close
to our families.
I... I understand.
1334
01:15:00,997 --> 01:15:03,876
And if you want to stay,
then we're staying.
1335
01:15:04,433 --> 01:15:05,503
Hat's it.
1336
01:15:06,836 --> 01:15:08,338
Don't just say that
'cause I wanna hear it.
1337
01:15:08,437 --> 01:15:09,438
I'm not.
1338
01:15:13,709 --> 01:15:16,121
I let you go once,
I'm not gonna do it again.
1339
01:15:21,484 --> 01:15:22,986
(LID RATTLING)
1340
01:15:23,886 --> 01:15:25,832
Shit. I'm sorry.
The pasta.
1341
01:15:25,955 --> 01:15:27,491
It's gonna...
One sec.
(LIN DSAY CHUCKLES)
1342
01:15:38,868 --> 01:15:40,347
You know, I think I actually
came pretty close
1343
01:15:40,403 --> 01:15:42,474
to getting it
right this time.
1344
01:15:42,905 --> 01:15:44,316
LINDSAY:
I'll get some candles.
1345
01:16:23,345 --> 01:16:26,189
(VOICE ECHOING)
Oh, my God! Ed! Ed! Ed!
1346
01:16:30,086 --> 01:16:31,360
(INAUDIBLE)
1347
01:16:43,199 --> 01:16:44,735
SNOWDEN: I know Tegretot.
1348
01:16:45,868 --> 01:16:47,905
I know it slows you down,
'cause I've seen it in my mom.
1349
01:16:47,970 --> 01:16:50,712
She's taken all kinds
of medications her whole life.
1350
01:16:51,207 --> 01:16:53,744
Well, they work
in 70% of cases.
1351
01:16:56,212 --> 01:16:59,455
Ed, epilepsy is
a serious condition.
1352
01:16:59,548 --> 01:17:02,461
If you have a seizure
driving yourself,
1353
01:17:02,551 --> 01:17:04,622
or with someone else
in the car,
1354
01:17:04,720 --> 01:17:08,133
or you're in a place
where you could fall,
1355
01:17:08,224 --> 01:17:10,727
this is not something
to be lightly regarded.
1356
01:17:10,793 --> 01:17:13,569
It's essential
you commit yourself
to this medication.
1357
01:17:16,065 --> 01:17:17,305
Okay?
1358
01:17:19,268 --> 01:17:20,338
Yeah.
1359
01:17:25,608 --> 01:17:27,110
After you.
Oh, thank you.
1360
01:17:27,243 --> 01:17:28,483
(BOTH LAUGHING)
1361
01:17:31,480 --> 01:17:34,324
I've been thinking about
what the doctor said.
1362
01:17:34,416 --> 01:17:35,918
About less stress.
1363
01:17:38,621 --> 01:17:40,601
A warmer climate
could help.
1364
01:17:43,425 --> 01:17:44,927
(INHALES DEEPLY)
1365
01:17:45,261 --> 01:17:47,935
If Hawaii is something
that we decide
1366
01:17:47,997 --> 01:17:51,206
would be better
for you, I'll go.
1367
01:18:08,784 --> 01:18:11,355
WEN: Janine,
how'cl the White House
conversation go?
1368
01:18:11,453 --> 01:18:12,454
JANINE: (OVER PHONE)
I made it quire clear
1369
01:18:12,521 --> 01:18:15,468
that we were in possession
of an authentic
HSA court order.
1370
01:18:15,524 --> 01:18:18,004
They wanted to see it.
We refused.
1371
01:18:18,060 --> 01:18:20,472
Now I just pray that
it's actually authentic.
1372
01:18:21,964 --> 01:18:23,705
Are you actually
questioning that?
1373
01:18:23,799 --> 01:18:26,643
Glenn, no one has ever seen
a FISA court order.
1374
01:18:26,702 --> 01:18:28,375
There's no precedent here.
1375
01:18:28,470 --> 01:18:31,417
Our source risked his life
for that document. It's real.
1376
01:18:32,074 --> 01:18:35,681
Tell us, did the White House
make any specific claims
1377
01:18:35,744 --> 01:18:39,157
about national security
that would prevent you
from publishing?
1378
01:18:39,815 --> 01:18:45,026
No. I asked them repeatedly,
and they had no
substantive answer.
1379
01:18:45,087 --> 01:18:46,395
Then, there you go!
What more do you want?
1380
01:18:46,488 --> 01:18:48,229
You can go out and
know that you're safe.
1381
01:18:48,324 --> 01:18:52,329
Glenn, Yd ilke to
talk to Alan before
we go any further.
1382
01:18:52,394 --> 01:18:53,429
EWEN: When does he land?
1383
01:18:53,529 --> 01:18:54,735
STUART: (OVER COMPUTER)
In six hours.
1384
01:18:54,830 --> 01:18:57,834
No. Absolutely not!
We're sitting
ducks here, Janine.
1385
01:18:58,334 --> 01:18:59,677
It's 1:00 p.m.
in New York.
1386
01:18:59,735 --> 01:19:01,408
If you don't get this out
in the next four hours,
1387
01:19:01,503 --> 01:19:03,244
you'll miss the evening news
on the East Coast.
1388
01:19:03,339 --> 01:19:05,785
But we can post
later tonight.
1389
01:19:07,343 --> 01:19:08,287
I'm sorry, Glenn.
1390
01:19:08,377 --> 01:19:10,584
But Alan's our
edilonin-chief,
and I really think that“...
1391
01:19:10,679 --> 01:19:13,523
Bullshit! The government
knows that we have
these documents now.
1392
01:19:13,582 --> 01:19:16,927
The CIA could barge through
this door any minute,
and you want more time!
1393
01:19:17,953 --> 01:19:20,866
Act like a fucking journalist
and stop stringing us along!
1394
01:19:20,923 --> 01:19:24,097
I just stood my ground
with the goddamn White House!
1395
01:19:24,193 --> 01:19:25,433
We risked my career!
1396
01:19:25,527 --> 01:19:27,438
How dare you question
my commitment to this story!
1397
01:19:27,529 --> 01:19:28,906
Okay, let's just
keep our voices down...
1398
01:19:28,964 --> 01:19:30,102
No, you're right.
lam questioning it.
1399
01:19:30,199 --> 01:19:32,543
This is absolutely
inappropriate.
1400
01:19:33,302 --> 01:19:35,373
We are publishing ourselves.
You're out.
1401
01:19:36,038 --> 01:19:37,449
(SCOFFS)
1402
01:19:46,048 --> 01:19:47,118
All right, Glenn.
1403
01:19:47,216 --> 01:19:49,560
We'll have it ready
by 4:00 p.m.
1404
01:19:50,219 --> 01:19:53,063
I have to go over
the story once more.
Why'!?
1405
01:19:53,222 --> 01:19:55,930
Because it still
needs editing, damn you.
1406
01:19:55,991 --> 01:19:58,938
All this fucking
inteliigence jargon
is hurting our brains.
1407
01:19:58,994 --> 01:20:02,669
This PRISM story is
stiff incomprehensible.
1408
01:20:02,765 --> 01:20:04,267
PRISM is the second story,
Janine.
1409
01:20:04,333 --> 01:20:06,176
Verizon is the first story.
1410
01:20:06,268 --> 01:20:08,805
Have it ready to post
by 4:00 p.m.,
5:00 at the latest.
1411
01:20:08,904 --> 01:20:10,144
Ugh.._...
1412
01:20:10,339 --> 01:20:11,477
No games, or we're gone.
1413
01:20:16,178 --> 01:20:18,351
(HEAVY BREATHING)
1414
01:20:36,532 --> 01:20:39,342
SNOWDEN: So, my new job
was counter-spying
1415
01:20:39,435 --> 01:20:44,282
on the Chinese at the NSA
Regional Cryptological Center
on Oahu.
1416
01:20:46,308 --> 01:20:48,618
You mind placing your
bag down there, sir?
1417
01:20:50,446 --> 01:20:53,450
No personal laptops,
no USB sticks,
no cell phones,
1418
01:20:53,515 --> 01:20:54,994
no electronic devices
of any kind?
1419
01:20:55,050 --> 01:20:56,120
No, sir.
1420
01:20:58,687 --> 01:21:00,462
(WOMAN SPEAKING
INDISTINCTLY ON PA)
1421
01:21:04,860 --> 01:21:05,895
GUARD: Thank you.
1422
01:21:10,132 --> 01:21:11,236
Thank you.
1423
01:21:15,637 --> 01:21:18,550
Snow White!
Is that you?
1424
01:21:20,042 --> 01:21:21,020
Gabriel?
1425
01:21:21,143 --> 01:21:23,487
Dude, what the hell
are you doing here?
(CHUCKLES) Wow!
1426
01:21:23,545 --> 01:21:24,580
That's amazing.
1427
01:21:24,680 --> 01:21:25,715
Oh, man.
1428
01:21:25,981 --> 01:21:27,153
What, do you work here?
1429
01:21:27,216 --> 01:21:31,665
Yeah, yeah. Uh, three years,
two months, and five days.
1430
01:21:32,988 --> 01:21:34,899
But who's
counting, right'?
Yeah.
1431
01:21:34,990 --> 01:21:38,233
It's like who knew
a secret underground
World War ll-era base
1432
01:21:38,327 --> 01:21:40,398
would become munchie heaven
for a thousand geeks, right?
1433
01:21:40,496 --> 01:21:41,998
So there's good pizza?
Good pizza, yeah.
1434
01:21:42,064 --> 01:21:43,065
That's important
1435
01:21:43,165 --> 01:21:44,735
Elevatofls slow
as shit, though.
1436
01:21:44,833 --> 01:21:45,777
Jesus.
1437
01:21:45,868 --> 01:21:47,074
GABRIEL: It's something
else, huh?
1438
01:21:47,669 --> 01:21:52,277
Yeah. So, uh, what deck
are you working on?
1439
01:21:52,374 --> 01:21:55,014
You NTOC or ROC?
1440
01:21:57,846 --> 01:22:00,918
Between you and me? NTOC.
(ELEVATOR BELL DINGS)
1441
01:22:01,016 --> 01:22:02,518
Cool. You get to
hack the hackers.
1442
01:22:02,584 --> 01:22:03,858
You're coming up
in the world.
1443
01:22:08,190 --> 01:22:09,965
(INDISTINCT CHATTER)
1444
01:22:13,729 --> 01:22:16,232
(KNOCKS ON DOOR)
Fresh brains
for you, Trevor.
1445
01:22:16,298 --> 01:22:18,539
Trevor James, Interactive
Ops Division Chief.
1446
01:22:18,600 --> 01:22:19,601
Ed Snowden.
1447
01:22:19,701 --> 01:22:22,204
I've been briefed.
Next door is NTOC.
1448
01:22:23,105 --> 01:22:25,210
Defense. That's where
you'll be working.
1449
01:22:26,141 --> 01:22:28,246
Over here we have ROC,
our offense'
1450
01:22:29,044 --> 01:22:32,457
Now I move between the two.
We run a tight ship here,
Snowden.
1451
01:22:32,548 --> 01:22:33,891
Yes, sir.
1452
01:22:33,949 --> 01:22:35,223
You'll be working
with Haynes.
1453
01:22:35,284 --> 01:22:36,729
Hey. Patrick Haynes.
1454
01:22:36,785 --> 01:22:38,128
Hey. Nice to meet you.
Good to have you.
1455
01:22:38,220 --> 01:22:39,460
You watch out for him.
1456
01:22:39,555 --> 01:22:41,296
That's the smartest guy
in the building right here.
1457
01:22:41,390 --> 01:22:42,391
(CHUCKLES)
Come on.
1458
01:22:42,458 --> 01:22:43,960
Bro, how many languages
you speak, again?
1459
01:22:44,059 --> 01:22:47,063
I mean, seven in code,
six spoken, two signs.
1460
01:22:47,129 --> 01:22:48,130
That's cool.
1461
01:22:53,402 --> 01:22:56,246
Great. Another language
I can't understand.
1462
01:22:56,305 --> 01:22:57,682
Uh, I'll check you
later, Ed.
1463
01:22:57,773 --> 01:22:58,843
Okay. See you.
1464
01:23:03,245 --> 01:23:04,622
TREVOR: Wait for it.
1465
01:23:06,081 --> 01:23:08,254
Any moment.
1466
01:23:11,086 --> 01:23:12,030
TECHNICIAN: We got 'em.
1467
01:23:12,120 --> 01:23:13,428
TREVOR: Lights over
Waziristan, gentlemen.
1468
01:23:14,022 --> 01:23:15,126
Way to go.
1469
01:23:15,190 --> 01:23:17,932
So what exactly do we
contribute to this?
1470
01:23:18,627 --> 01:23:19,628
The underside of
that Reaper drone
1471
01:23:19,695 --> 01:23:21,504
is fixed with
a big-ass antenna,
1472
01:23:21,597 --> 01:23:24,339
snarfing the hardware ID
of anything that broadcasts.
1473
01:23:24,433 --> 01:23:26,674
We do the geolocator.
1474
01:23:26,768 --> 01:23:27,872
My friend Tasha
here at the Air Force
1475
01:23:27,970 --> 01:23:29,608
rains hellfire.
There she is now.
1476
01:23:29,938 --> 01:23:31,849
FEMALE DRONE PILOT:
Hey, Trev.
You Iikfn' the show?
1477
01:23:32,374 --> 01:23:34,479
You know it. We track 'em,
you whack 'em.
1478
01:23:34,643 --> 01:23:36,384
SNOWDEN: And who
did we just track?
1479
01:23:37,179 --> 01:23:38,783
Not who, what.
1480
01:23:38,847 --> 01:23:42,021
We're targeting
bad guys' cell phones.
Sometimes the SIM card.
1481
01:23:42,117 --> 01:23:44,529
Okay, and how do we
know the bad guy
1482
01:23:44,620 --> 01:23:46,190
is in possession of
the bad cell phone
1483
01:23:46,288 --> 01:23:47,460
when we strike?
1484
01:23:47,523 --> 01:23:48,558
Well, we don't...
1485
01:23:48,690 --> 01:23:51,671
Course we do. JSOC and CIA
have their people
in the field.
1486
01:23:52,995 --> 01:23:54,497
What's the program name?
1487
01:23:55,364 --> 01:23:56,843
Epic Shelter.
1488
01:23:56,899 --> 01:24:00,073
It was originally some
backup program for, um...
1489
01:24:01,403 --> 01:24:02,575
Catastrophic site failure.
1490
01:24:02,671 --> 01:24:04,651
Yeah. How did
you know that?
1491
01:24:06,008 --> 01:24:07,043
I built it.
1492
01:24:07,309 --> 01:24:08,481
You?
Yeah.
1493
01:24:09,478 --> 01:24:11,321
You know I've actually...
I've been thinking about, uh,
1494
01:24:11,380 --> 01:24:13,553
another use
for Epic Shelter.
1495
01:24:13,649 --> 01:24:14,684
Whafd you have
in mind?
1496
01:24:15,551 --> 01:24:17,588
Well, I was chatting
with Jim Lowell
1497
01:24:17,686 --> 01:24:18,687
about how there's
so many programs...
1498
01:24:18,754 --> 01:24:19,824
Deputy Director Lowell?
1499
01:24:19,888 --> 01:24:22,061
Yeah. Yeah.
1500
01:24:22,157 --> 01:24:24,364
And we were saying there's
so many programs nowadays,
1501
01:24:24,426 --> 01:24:26,497
it's kind of impossible
to keep track of them
anymore, right?
1502
01:24:26,562 --> 01:24:29,236
So why not create
a centralized database.
1503
01:24:29,665 --> 01:24:31,076
Ah. Like an index.
1504
01:24:31,166 --> 01:24:33,510
Yeah, exactly.
Something that updates
in real time,
1505
01:24:33,569 --> 01:24:37,278
you know, we've already got
Epic Shelter collecting
our finished intel.
1506
01:24:37,372 --> 01:24:40,842
We just need a web portal
to catalogue it,
make it searchable.
1507
01:24:41,944 --> 01:24:43,389
Let me think about it.
1508
01:24:43,445 --> 01:24:45,447
In any case,
I'd have to run it
past Fort Meade.
1509
01:24:45,547 --> 01:24:46,548
SNOWDEN: Of course.
1510
01:24:46,615 --> 01:24:47,787
Did you have a name?
1511
01:24:48,617 --> 01:24:51,029
Yeah, if it's not taken,
I'd call it Heartbeat.
1512
01:24:53,455 --> 01:24:56,231
Heartbeat.
FEMALE DRONE PILOT:
Six, five, four,
1513
01:24:56,291 --> 01:24:59,704
three, two, one...
1514
01:24:59,761 --> 01:25:01,104
Engage target.
1515
01:25:16,144 --> 01:25:17,623
LINDSAY:
You okay down there?
1516
01:25:18,780 --> 01:25:19,815
Yep.
1517
01:25:20,616 --> 01:25:23,392
See, this is why I keep saying
we need to hike more.
1518
01:25:24,386 --> 01:25:25,490
SNOWDEN: You're right.
1519
01:25:25,887 --> 01:25:27,059
Hey, can you
look at me?
1520
01:25:27,122 --> 01:25:28,123
Oh!
1521
01:25:28,890 --> 01:25:31,393
LINDSAY: Come on.
It's been years.
(CAMERA SHUTTER CLICKING)
1522
01:25:31,460 --> 01:25:34,407
By social media standards,
you don't even exist anymore.
1523
01:25:34,896 --> 01:25:36,068
Just one.
1524
01:25:37,833 --> 01:25:40,074
Okay, smile.
Show me your teeth!
(CAMERA SHUTTER CLICKING)
1525
01:25:41,837 --> 01:25:44,477
My elusive E,
finally captured.
1526
01:25:44,573 --> 01:25:46,450
So now I'm
a viable boyfriend?
1527
01:25:46,508 --> 01:25:47,748
Yes.
(LAUGHS)
1528
01:25:50,312 --> 01:25:53,020
Such a shame, you used
to be such a cute
little model.
1529
01:25:53,115 --> 01:25:54,150
Little?
Yeah.
1530
01:25:54,249 --> 01:25:56,354
Was I little?
Wait! (LAUGHING)
1531
01:25:58,587 --> 01:25:59,930
Stop!
1532
01:26:01,757 --> 01:26:03,794
Oh, my God.
What?
1533
01:26:03,925 --> 01:26:05,836
Think you got
some sun!
(CHUCKLES)
1534
01:26:05,927 --> 01:26:07,998
I'm serious,
it looks good!
1535
01:26:08,096 --> 01:26:09,473
Well, that's impossible.
1536
01:26:10,599 --> 01:26:14,206
Hey, um,
I've been meaning
to ask you, by the way.
1537
01:26:14,302 --> 01:26:15,610
Did you switch
pharmacies?
1538
01:26:16,772 --> 01:26:20,049
'Cause I tried to pick up
your prescription,
1539
01:26:21,610 --> 01:26:23,453
and I couldn't
1540
01:26:23,512 --> 01:26:24,786
Why did you do that?
1541
01:26:27,215 --> 01:26:30,719
Uh, because I was there
and thought it would
be helpful.
1542
01:26:43,065 --> 01:26:45,011
I stopped taking
the Tegretol.
1543
01:26:46,802 --> 01:26:49,476
What? When?
1544
01:26:49,538 --> 01:26:51,211
A couple months ago.
1545
01:26:51,306 --> 01:26:52,376
And you'rejust
now telling me?
1546
01:26:52,474 --> 01:26:54,215
I wanted to tell you.
1547
01:26:54,309 --> 01:26:57,552
I did, I just...
I can't take that stuff,
it makes me groggy,
1548
01:26:57,646 --> 01:27:00,149
and I need to be
sharp for work.
1549
01:27:00,215 --> 01:27:01,853
I need to be
on the ball
all the time.
1550
01:27:01,917 --> 01:27:03,055
What is it about
this fucking job
1551
01:27:03,151 --> 01:27:05,597
that makes it more
important than your life?
1552
01:27:05,687 --> 01:27:06,825
(SIGHS)
1553
01:27:07,155 --> 01:27:08,327
I don't understand.
1554
01:27:08,390 --> 01:27:09,733
Our government...
1555
01:27:12,394 --> 01:27:13,839
Our government, what?
1556
01:27:14,663 --> 01:27:18,110
Our government
is hemorrhaging
billions of dollars
1557
01:27:18,200 --> 01:27:20,737
every year
to Chinese hackers.
1558
01:27:20,836 --> 01:27:23,339
And I've been hired
to shut them down.
1559
01:27:25,006 --> 01:27:28,783
A lot of people
are depending on me.
1560
01:27:30,011 --> 01:27:31,854
More so than
anyone else?
1561
01:27:33,515 --> 01:27:34,516
Yes.
1562
01:27:37,452 --> 01:27:41,195
No, this is bullshit.
1563
01:27:44,593 --> 01:27:48,735
We didn't come to Hawaii
for you to heal, did we?
1564
01:27:49,931 --> 01:27:52,207
There was never gonna be
a less stressful job out here.
1565
01:27:52,267 --> 01:27:55,111
Look, I feel like
I'm made to do this.
1566
01:27:55,203 --> 01:28:00,152
And if I don't do it,
then I don't know
anybody else that can.
1567
01:28:02,711 --> 01:28:07,558
It's like I'm on a trajectory
that I can't turn back from.
1568
01:28:10,652 --> 01:28:12,154
LINDSAY: You can
always turn back.
1569
01:28:16,658 --> 01:28:17,898
SENATORWYDEN:
What I wanted to see
1570
01:28:17,959 --> 01:28:21,406
is if you could give me
a yes or no answer
to the question,
1571
01:28:21,463 --> 01:28:25,912
"Does the NSA collect
any type of data at all
1572
01:28:25,967 --> 01:28:29,414
"on millions or hundreds
of millions of Americans?"
1573
01:28:30,405 --> 01:28:31,577
DIRECTOR CLAPPERI No, sir.
1574
01:28:32,174 --> 01:28:33,653
SENATOR WYDEN: It does not?
1575
01:28:35,310 --> 01:28:36,812
Not wittingly.
1576
01:28:36,912 --> 01:28:39,483
There are cases where
they could inadvertently,
1577
01:28:39,581 --> 01:28:41,458
perhaps, uh, collect,
1578
01:28:41,516 --> 01:28:43,120
but not wittingly.
1579
01:28:43,185 --> 01:28:44,425
Oh, really?
1580
01:28:44,486 --> 01:28:46,466
SENATOR WYDEN:
Thank you, and I?! have
additional questions
1581
01:28:46,521 --> 01:28:48,432
to give you in writing
on that point.
1582
01:28:48,490 --> 01:28:49,628
(KEYBOARD CLACKING)
1583
01:28:49,691 --> 01:28:51,102
SNOWDEN: Okay, so, uh,
1584
01:28:51,159 --> 01:28:53,435
what I wanted to
show you guys is, um,
1585
01:28:53,495 --> 01:28:56,999
the slide I ran across
while building
this indexing program.
1586
01:28:57,432 --> 01:28:58,467
And what is this?
1587
01:28:58,767 --> 01:29:00,337
Okay. So, this is
data collection
1588
01:29:00,435 --> 01:29:02,346
for the month of March
1589
01:29:02,437 --> 01:29:04,678
worldwide,
emails and Skype calls.
1590
01:29:04,773 --> 01:29:11,122
So France, 70 million-
Germany, 500 million.
Brazil, two billion.
1591
01:29:11,813 --> 01:29:13,850
Inside the U.S.,
1592
01:29:13,949 --> 01:29:17,158
3.1 billion emails and calls.
1593
01:29:17,219 --> 01:29:19,631
That's not including
any of the telecom
company data.
1594
01:29:19,688 --> 01:29:21,531
PATRICK: Okay, so what's
the collection in Russia?
1595
01:29:22,123 --> 01:29:25,661
SNOWDEN: Russia
is 1.5 billion.
1596
01:29:25,727 --> 01:29:27,365
Wait, so we're collecting
twice as much
1597
01:29:27,462 --> 01:29:29,032
in the U.S.
as we are in Russia?
1598
01:29:29,130 --> 01:29:30,200
Yeah, I figured it
was a lot, but...
1599
01:29:30,298 --> 01:29:32,539
GABRIEL: This shit
is out of hand, man.
1600
01:29:32,634 --> 01:29:34,671
Wait. Have you shown
this to anyone else?
1601
01:29:34,803 --> 01:29:36,544
No, you guys
are the first.
1602
01:29:36,638 --> 01:29:38,845
Yeah, yeah, you know,
I'd be careful about that.
1603
01:29:38,907 --> 01:29:40,887
You know, it could seem
like you're rocking the boat.
1604
01:29:40,976 --> 01:29:41,977
SNOWDEN: Yeah, you're right.
1605
01:29:42,043 --> 01:29:44,250
No, I just, uh,
I needed to know
1606
01:29:44,346 --> 01:29:46,656
if I was the only one that
thought this was crazy.
1607
01:29:47,315 --> 01:29:48,726
TREVOR: What the fuck's
going on?
1608
01:29:48,817 --> 01:29:49,852
CATFISH: Hey, Trev.
1609
01:29:49,918 --> 01:29:50,988
What are you doing
in here?
1610
01:29:51,052 --> 01:29:52,258
It's nothing.
I was just showing them
1611
01:29:52,354 --> 01:29:54,834
this one slide,
I needed some input.
1612
01:29:54,890 --> 01:29:56,028
Why the heat map?
1613
01:29:56,091 --> 01:29:57,729
It's my bad, Trev.
1614
01:29:57,826 --> 01:29:59,828
I made a bet with Ed
about which country
1615
01:29:59,895 --> 01:30:02,501
we were collecting
the most signals from.
1616
01:30:02,564 --> 01:30:04,510
He said Iran,
I said Pakistan.
1617
01:30:05,667 --> 01:30:07,010
Who won?
1618
01:30:07,669 --> 01:30:08,773
Ed.
1619
01:30:08,870 --> 01:30:09,871
(SOFT CHUCKLE)
1620
01:30:11,406 --> 01:30:13,682
GABRIEL: Yeah, I need to
head out. I'll see you guys.
1621
01:30:13,742 --> 01:30:14,914
You're going
down next time, man.
1622
01:30:15,010 --> 01:30:16,114
Yeah, okay.
1623
01:30:17,279 --> 01:30:18,917
No more bets.
1624
01:30:19,014 --> 01:30:21,016
And I don't want anyone
unauthorized in here again.
1625
01:30:21,082 --> 01:30:22,527
Especially not
with Heartbeat.
1626
01:30:22,584 --> 01:30:24,359
You're right.
Won't happen again.
1627
01:30:29,357 --> 01:30:30,358
(SIGHS)
1628
01:30:39,034 --> 01:30:40,377
ALL: Happy birthday!
1629
01:30:40,635 --> 01:30:42,239
(APPLAUSE AND CHATTER)
1630
01:30:46,875 --> 01:30:48,582
CATFISH: ...in Vegas,
looking at Afghanistan.
1631
01:30:48,643 --> 01:30:50,782
So we're running late hours.
1632
01:30:50,879 --> 01:30:53,655
So this blurry object
comes wandering
into the strike zone.
1633
01:30:54,382 --> 01:30:56,259
We all knew
that it was a kid.
1634
01:30:56,551 --> 01:30:57,552
Poof.
1635
01:30:57,919 --> 01:30:58,920
He's gone.
1636
01:31:00,088 --> 01:31:02,295
We called in
for clarification,
and the report came back
1637
01:31:02,390 --> 01:31:04,097
that it was a dog.
1638
01:31:04,793 --> 01:31:06,272
Okay. Fine.
1639
01:31:06,895 --> 01:31:11,002
Shift's long, day and night.
I don't remember.
1640
01:31:11,099 --> 01:31:14,012
But same village,
two, three days later.
1641
01:31:14,102 --> 01:31:15,342
We see the funeral party.
1642
01:31:15,437 --> 01:31:17,644
We knew it was a kid
that they were burying.
1643
01:31:17,739 --> 01:31:19,946
Moms and dads wailing.
1644
01:31:20,008 --> 01:31:22,750
And then the order comes down.
Pretty clear. Hit 'em.
1645
01:31:23,411 --> 01:31:24,412
Poof.
1646
01:31:26,681 --> 01:31:29,491
And they are gone
in a cloud of dust.
1647
01:31:33,621 --> 01:31:36,158
I mean, all of them.
(CHUCKLING) The whole
fuckin' family.
1648
01:31:36,858 --> 01:31:38,804
But the crazy thing is,
1649
01:31:38,860 --> 01:31:40,703
you come home after work,
1650
01:31:40,795 --> 01:31:44,937
kiss your wife, your kids,
back to work the next day.
1651
01:31:45,033 --> 01:31:50,176
Pretty soon, you know,
it just all becomes routine.
1652
01:31:51,973 --> 01:31:52,974
(SIGHS)
1653
01:31:53,174 --> 01:31:54,517
Fuck that.
1654
01:31:54,609 --> 01:31:58,386
You make it
sound criminal, man.
It's war. It's a job.
1655
01:31:58,480 --> 01:32:02,121
Oh, I don't know, man.
You saying jobs
can't be criminal?
1656
01:32:02,717 --> 01:32:04,287
Not if you're working
for the government.
1657
01:32:05,053 --> 01:32:07,795
SNOWDEN: You ever hear about
the Nuremberg trials, Trev?
1658
01:32:08,723 --> 01:32:10,361
They weren't that long ago.
1659
01:32:10,458 --> 01:32:13,530
Yeah. And we hung
the Nazi big shots, right?
1660
01:32:14,162 --> 01:32:16,540
Yeah, well, the big shots
were the first trial,
1661
01:32:16,631 --> 01:32:20,545
but then the next trial
were just the judges,
1662
01:32:20,635 --> 01:32:23,582
and lawyers,
and policemen, and guards,
1663
01:32:23,671 --> 01:32:28,313
and ordinary people
just doing theirjobs,
following orders.
1664
01:32:29,644 --> 01:32:31,590
That's where we got
the Nuremberg principles,
1665
01:32:31,679 --> 01:32:35,821
which then the UN made
into international law,
1666
01:32:35,884 --> 01:32:40,355
just in case ordinaryjobs
become criminal again.
1667
01:32:43,658 --> 01:32:44,932
Just sayin'.
1668
01:32:45,026 --> 01:32:46,437
(DRONE WHIRRING)
1669
01:32:52,167 --> 01:32:53,339
(THUD)
(WOMAN SCREAMS)
1670
01:32:53,668 --> 01:32:55,170
(CLAMORING)
1671
01:32:56,771 --> 01:32:58,079
MAN: That's gotta
wake you up. You okay?
1672
01:32:58,173 --> 01:32:59,618
See, I told you
not to grab my hand.
1673
01:32:59,841 --> 01:33:01,548
(INDISTINCT CHATTER)
1674
01:33:12,420 --> 01:33:13,899
...fucking touch me
anymore.
1675
01:33:30,605 --> 01:33:32,710
MAN: Dude! Dude,
are you okay?
WOMAN: Oh, my God.
1676
01:33:32,774 --> 01:33:34,219
LINDSAY:
Ed, are you okay?
1677
01:33:34,275 --> 01:33:36,084
Are you okay, man?
I think he's having a...
1678
01:33:36,211 --> 01:33:37,884
LINDSAY: Get away,
don't touch him.
1679
01:33:37,946 --> 01:33:39,619
MAN: Don't touch him,
don't touch him.
LINDSAY: Don't...
1680
01:34:02,437 --> 01:34:03,575
(SIGHS)
1681
01:34:08,476 --> 01:34:12,583
Hey, Ed. How are you?
How's your health?
1682
01:34:13,148 --> 01:34:15,128
Hey, Corbin. Uh...
1683
01:34:17,452 --> 01:34:19,955
It's fine.
Thanks for asking.
1684
01:34:20,188 --> 01:34:22,930
Must be nerve-wracking
living with that condition.
1685
01:34:24,092 --> 01:34:27,266
You wouldn't know it
to look at your numbers.
1686
01:34:27,328 --> 01:34:30,434
Two hundred Chinese IPs down
in your first four months.
1687
01:34:32,700 --> 01:34:35,544
Those are, uh,
internal numbers.
1688
01:34:35,637 --> 01:34:39,278
Your colleague, Trevor,
comes out of the CIA like you.
1689
01:34:39,340 --> 01:34:43,152
He's been, uh, keeping me
informed on your progress.
1690
01:34:44,279 --> 01:34:48,785
KLHUCKLES}
R's outstanding work.
Heartbeat as wail.
1691
01:34:49,651 --> 01:34:52,564
Thank you. Thanks.
That means a lot.
1692
01:34:52,654 --> 01:34:55,794
Lowell is very pleased.
He, uh, sends his regards.
1693
01:34:56,391 --> 01:34:57,665
That's great to hear.
1694
01:34:58,693 --> 01:34:59,967
He, um...
1695
01:35:03,831 --> 01:35:06,710
He doesn't know about
your heat map conversations,
1696
01:35:06,801 --> 01:35:09,975
or some of the ideas you've
expressed to your colleagues.
1697
01:35:10,805 --> 01:35:12,148
And he's not going to.
1698
01:35:13,208 --> 01:35:14,653
Yeah. Uh...
1699
01:35:15,543 --> 01:35:19,491
You know, Heartbeat
is proving a tricky project.
1700
01:35:19,547 --> 01:35:21,527
Collating from
multiple agencies,
1701
01:35:21,583 --> 01:35:24,086
and knowing
where to pull from.
1702
01:35:24,185 --> 01:35:27,359
It has helped to talk
it over with colleagues.
1703
01:35:28,890 --> 01:35:30,233
Ibelieve in you, Ed.
1704
01:35:30,658 --> 01:35:35,164
Which is why
nothing happened to you
after the derog h: Geneva.
1705
01:35:36,164 --> 01:35:38,838
And I'm very grateful
you've looked out for me.
1706
01:35:38,900 --> 01:35:40,004
Or after you, uh,
1707
01:35:42,270 --> 01:35:45,080
omitted the truth
in your last polygraph.
1708
01:35:47,508 --> 01:35:50,045
What was it you were
withholding exactly?
1709
01:35:50,878 --> 01:35:51,913
Hmm?
1710
01:35:57,051 --> 01:35:58,428
You remember
that day in class,
1711
01:35:58,519 --> 01:36:01,295
you were talking to us
about the FISA Court?
1712
01:36:02,690 --> 01:36:06,365
You said that
they approved Bush's
wiretapping programs.
1713
01:36:07,962 --> 01:36:11,205
Sometimes we're restricted
from tailing the whole truth.
1714
01:36:13,067 --> 01:36:15,274
Doesn't give us
permission to lie.
1715
01:36:15,536 --> 01:36:17,447
Come on, Corbin,
1716
01:36:17,538 --> 01:36:20,576
the Director of
National Intelligence
just lied to Congress!
1717
01:36:24,145 --> 01:36:25,215
Sorry.
1718
01:36:30,218 --> 01:36:31,720
Look a! me.
1719
01:36:37,392 --> 01:36:41,306
Did you access
an unauthorized program
1720
01:36:41,396 --> 01:36:43,899
that I did not know about?
1721
01:36:49,804 --> 01:36:51,181
Yes.
1722
01:36:52,674 --> 01:36:54,017
Itwas, uh...
1723
01:36:55,009 --> 01:36:56,818
ltwas at Geneva.
It was Lindsay.
1724
01:36:56,911 --> 01:36:58,151
I was jealous.
1725
01:36:59,681 --> 01:37:02,252
And I'm sorry.
I never did it again.
1726
01:37:16,264 --> 01:37:17,265
Listen, Ed.
1727
01:37:21,102 --> 01:37:24,675
I know ifs been up and down
with you and Lindsay
since Geneva.
1728
01:37:25,506 --> 01:37:29,682
It's tough to keep
any relationship going.
Few of us do.
1729
01:37:31,946 --> 01:37:35,155
So, if M! give you
any peace of mind,
I can assure you,
1730
01:37:35,216 --> 01:37:39,892
she's not sleeping with
that photographer friend
of hers.
1731
01:37:40,288 --> 01:37:42,063
I! that's what
you're thinking;.
1732
01:37:45,960 --> 01:37:47,701
I have to go to
a Five Eyes conference
1733
01:37:47,795 --> 01:37:49,502
in Sydney in
a couple of weeks.
1734
01:37:49,564 --> 01:37:51,805
H! stop of! in Hawaii
on the way back.
1735
01:37:53,568 --> 01:37:54,740
Okay?
1736
01:37:56,471 --> 01:37:59,213
Okay. Thank you.
1737
01:38:01,642 --> 01:38:02,985
I'll see you soon.
1738
01:38:16,891 --> 01:38:17,892
(CELL PHONE RINGING)
1739
01:38:19,093 --> 01:38:20,401
Hey, Dad.
1740
01:38:22,230 --> 01:38:25,074
Good. Did you get
the e-mail that I sent you
with the photos?
1741
01:38:26,768 --> 01:38:27,769
Uh-huh.
1742
01:38:29,404 --> 01:38:31,350
Well, I was hoping that
you could send me some...
1743
01:38:34,008 --> 01:38:35,419
(KEYBOARD CLACKING)
1744
01:38:40,948 --> 01:38:42,018
What are you doing?
1745
01:39:04,238 --> 01:39:05,239
Sit down.
1746
01:39:12,713 --> 01:39:14,386
Your e-mail is
being monitored.
1747
01:39:16,150 --> 01:39:17,220
So?
1748
01:39:17,919 --> 01:39:18,954
No, it's different now.
1749
01:39:19,053 --> 01:39:21,556
It's not passive collection,
it's full-take surveillance.
1750
01:39:21,622 --> 01:39:25,468
It's all of your e-mails,
calls, texts, social media,
everything.
1751
01:39:25,560 --> 01:39:30,009
It's also possible
that the house is bugged.
1752
01:39:30,231 --> 01:39:31,437
I'm not sure.
1753
01:39:32,133 --> 01:39:33,271
By who?
1754
01:39:34,502 --> 01:39:37,415
By a senior officer
at the CIA.
1755
01:39:38,406 --> 01:39:41,012
You in trouble?
Is it the Chinese thing?
1756
01:39:42,810 --> 01:39:46,451
Look, there's things
that I wish I could tell you,
1757
01:39:46,514 --> 01:39:50,428
but I can't because
you could get very hurt.
1758
01:39:50,985 --> 01:39:53,795
What's keeping you safe
is that you don't know
anything.
1759
01:40:00,595 --> 01:40:03,974
I'm sorry, I really am.
ldidn't want
any of this for you.
1760
01:40:05,933 --> 01:40:10,439
But I know you would think
I was doing the right thing.
1761
01:40:15,109 --> 01:40:18,318
So just listen to me
for a sec' okay?
1762
01:40:18,379 --> 01:40:21,485
When we g0 back in the house,
everything has to appear
normal.
1763
01:40:21,549 --> 01:40:23,688
We're gonna act like
nothing has changed,
1764
01:40:23,784 --> 01:40:26,196
but if you do notice
something that's weird,
1765
01:40:26,287 --> 01:40:28,130
you need to
tell me right away.
1766
01:40:28,222 --> 01:40:31,635
And you're gonna use
an encrypted e-mail
that I'm setting up for you.
1767
01:40:31,692 --> 01:40:34,036
(EXHALES SHARPLY) Oh, my God,
I don't think I can do this.
1768
01:40:34,128 --> 01:40:35,698
Yes, you can.
I know you can.
1769
01:40:37,632 --> 01:40:39,168
Do I even have a choice?
1770
01:40:40,201 --> 01:40:41,874
I'm asking you
to trust me.
1771
01:40:44,672 --> 01:40:46,174
(BIRDS CHIRPING)
1772
01:40:50,478 --> 01:40:51,684
And, Linds'
I think it'd be best
1773
01:40:51,746 --> 01:40:54,352
if you went back
to Maryland for a while.
1774
01:40:55,149 --> 01:40:58,756
Tell your parents
that I'm away on
a business trip
1775
01:40:58,853 --> 01:41:01,265
and that you're homesick.
1776
01:41:01,489 --> 01:41:03,093
Are you going away?
1777
01:41:03,224 --> 01:41:05,727
Yes. Butjust
for a little while.
1778
01:41:13,167 --> 01:41:14,237
No.
1779
01:41:15,503 --> 01:41:16,504
No, I can't go.
1780
01:41:16,571 --> 01:41:18,016
Please.
Just until I get back.
1781
01:41:18,072 --> 01:41:19,210
I can't go.
1782
01:41:21,509 --> 01:41:25,958
You just said
that we have to appear
like nothings changed.
1783
01:41:26,180 --> 01:41:29,627
If both of us left
at the same time,
wouldn't that seem suspicious?
1784
01:41:34,021 --> 01:41:35,227
(SNIFFLES)
1785
01:41:40,194 --> 01:41:41,639
I will do this for you.
1786
01:41:46,734 --> 01:41:48,645
(SOBBING)
But it is the last time.
1787
01:41:57,211 --> 01:41:58,918
(KEYBOARD CLACKING)
1788
01:42:14,996 --> 01:42:16,669
(SIREN WAILING IN DISTANCE)
1789
01:42:21,068 --> 01:42:22,570
(INDISTINCT CHATTER)
1790
01:42:23,738 --> 01:42:26,150
Yo! Yo, you hear
about Trevor, bro?
1791
01:42:26,240 --> 01:42:27,310
No, what?
1792
01:42:27,408 --> 01:42:29,820
You remember that op
to own the Internet in Syria?
1793
01:42:29,910 --> 01:42:31,082
Yeah.
Yeah.
1794
01:42:31,145 --> 01:42:33,648
Trevor and his TAO team
crashed the core router.
1795
01:42:35,316 --> 01:42:36,818
Bro, the whole
country's gone dark.
1796
01:42:36,917 --> 01:42:38,658
EN: Jesus Christ.
1797
01:42:38,753 --> 01:42:39,788
TREVOR: Figure it out!
1798
01:42:39,854 --> 01:42:40,924
GABRIEL: Poor bastards.
1799
01:42:43,290 --> 01:42:45,099
Okay, I'm gonna, uh...
I gotta get to work.
1800
01:42:45,159 --> 01:42:46,194
Yeah. Yeah, me too.
1801
01:42:47,261 --> 01:42:48,934
So, Ed, how's, uh...
1802
01:42:49,664 --> 01:42:51,166
How's Heartbeat coming?
1803
01:42:51,866 --> 01:42:53,038
It's close.
1804
01:42:54,769 --> 01:42:55,941
It's very close.
1805
01:42:56,370 --> 01:42:57,781
TREVOR: Pull it up
on this monitor.
1806
01:42:57,838 --> 01:42:58,976
MAN: I'm still
trying to access...
1807
01:42:59,040 --> 01:43:00,451
Don't tell me you're
involved in this, too?
1808
01:43:00,508 --> 01:43:04,320
Well, Trevor fucking roped me
into going through
their zero-day exploit codes.
1809
01:43:04,378 --> 01:43:06,654
This thing is
a fucking mess, man.
1810
01:43:09,383 --> 01:43:11,454
Why did I agree
to this?
Good luck.
1811
01:43:12,720 --> 01:43:13,892
PATRICK: This is Patrick...
1812
01:43:14,689 --> 01:43:16,362
What you're gonna
do is you're gonna...
1813
01:43:21,662 --> 01:43:24,575
I told him, l...
Help them.
1814
01:43:24,865 --> 01:43:26,003
(KEYBOARD CLACKING)
1815
01:43:34,542 --> 01:43:35,646
(COMPUTER CHIMES)
1816
01:44:38,205 --> 01:44:39,582
(INDISTINCT CONVERSATION)
1817
01:44:51,051 --> 01:44:52,462
TREVOR: Okay.
Get back to work, guys.
1818
01:44:52,553 --> 01:44:53,554
No, Patrick, show me.
1819
01:45:38,532 --> 01:45:39,943
TREVOR: Talk about
getting hung out to dry.
1820
01:45:40,000 --> 01:45:41,707
PATRICK: Yeah. Are we set?
1821
01:45:42,102 --> 01:45:43,103
(KEYBOARD CLACKING)
1822
01:45:43,370 --> 01:45:44,781
Trouble with the Navy?
1823
01:45:45,272 --> 01:45:47,513
TREVOR: One of those idiots
ripped some bullshit piece
of Israeli code
1824
01:45:47,608 --> 01:45:49,713
and jammed it down
our payload. Can you
fucking believe that?
1825
01:45:50,010 --> 01:45:51,114
Script kiddies.
1826
01:45:51,178 --> 01:45:52,555
TREVOR: I know, I know.
I should have
listened to you.
1827
01:45:52,646 --> 01:45:54,023
God damn it.
Is this it?
1828
01:45:54,114 --> 01:45:55,354
PATRICK: Here.
Yeah, this is it.
1829
01:45:55,449 --> 01:45:58,020
TREVOR: I'm gonna make
the goddamn Israelis
take the fall for this.
1830
01:45:58,819 --> 01:45:59,991
Come on.
1831
01:46:03,023 --> 01:46:04,900
Got it?
I'm not taking
the fall for this.
1832
01:46:14,635 --> 01:46:15,670
Patrick.
1833
01:46:19,039 --> 01:46:20,814
MAN: Still working on it,
Trev. Hold on.
1834
01:46:21,141 --> 01:46:22,142
MAN: Nothing. Still nothing.
1835
01:46:30,584 --> 01:46:31,654
(CHUCKLES)
1836
01:46:33,721 --> 01:46:34,722
Yeah, but...
1837
01:47:18,766 --> 01:47:20,746
You, uh... You headed
home already?
1838
01:47:20,801 --> 01:47:24,078
Yeah. I'm not
feeling so well.
1839
01:47:24,138 --> 01:47:26,140
Might not be in
tomorrow either.
1840
01:47:26,941 --> 01:47:28,443
You know,
Trevor's kind of busy,
1841
01:47:28,542 --> 01:47:29,953
maybe you could
let him know for me?
1842
01:47:30,044 --> 01:47:32,115
Yeah. Yeah, man.
It'd be my pleasure.
1843
01:47:33,814 --> 01:47:35,259
You know,
if you're, uh...
1844
01:47:35,316 --> 01:47:37,762
If you're really not
feeling well, dude,
maybe you should, uh,
1845
01:47:38,385 --> 01:47:40,092
go back to the States
and see your doctor.
1846
01:47:40,154 --> 01:47:43,328
I think that, you know,
folks would understand that.
1847
01:47:46,093 --> 01:47:47,834
That sounds like
a smart thing.
1848
01:47:47,928 --> 01:47:48,929
(ELEVATOR BELL DINGS)
1849
01:47:55,002 --> 01:47:56,413
Take care of yourself.
1850
01:47:57,071 --> 01:47:58,311
Yeah, you too, bro.
1851
01:48:10,584 --> 01:48:12,086
(CUBE CLICKING)
1852
01:48:15,489 --> 01:48:16,934
(INDISTINCT CONVERSATION)
1853
01:48:19,460 --> 01:48:20,495
nix:
1854
01:48:21,829 --> 01:48:23,467
You ever play
with one of these?
1855
01:48:24,965 --> 01:48:26,171
Yeah, when I was a kid.
1856
01:48:26,266 --> 01:48:28,610
Yeah. You should try it.
It's hard.
1857
01:48:34,008 --> 01:48:35,009
(SCANNER BEEPS)
1858
01:48:50,124 --> 01:48:51,467
I can't figure this out.
1859
01:48:53,994 --> 01:48:55,132
(SCANNER BEEPS)
1860
01:48:57,831 --> 01:48:59,504
I don't know
about this.
1861
01:48:59,700 --> 01:49:01,577
Yeah, you gotta start
with the white cross,
actually,
1862
01:49:01,702 --> 01:49:03,204
Ah.
and then you do
the corners.
1863
01:49:03,737 --> 01:49:04,738
Oh, man.
1864
01:49:04,838 --> 01:49:07,876
Look, I love these things.
(CHUCKLES)
1865
01:49:07,975 --> 01:49:09,318
Hey, have
a good weekend, man.
1866
01:49:09,376 --> 01:49:10,855
You too, buddy.
All right.
1867
01:50:06,600 --> 01:50:07,806
LAURA; It's live.
1868
01:50:12,873 --> 01:50:14,944
There's a link to
the FISA court order.
1869
01:50:21,048 --> 01:50:22,049
(CHUCKLES)
1870
01:50:22,549 --> 01:50:24,825
Well done, Janine.
1871
01:50:24,918 --> 01:50:26,454
I told you
she wasn't a pushover.
1872
01:50:26,553 --> 01:50:28,726
Well, it feels so
goddamn good to be wrong.
1873
01:50:37,264 --> 01:50:39,642
Breaking news tonight.
Reports that through
a secret court order,
1874
01:50:39,733 --> 01:50:42,270
the Obama administration
is collecting
the phone records
1875
01:50:42,336 --> 01:50:44,077
of millions of
Verizon customers.
1876
01:50:44,138 --> 01:50:46,311
That's been reported by the
Guardian newspaper in the U. K.
1877
01:50:46,406 --> 01:50:47,680
The specific court order shows
1878
01:50:47,774 --> 01:50:50,914
mat all me information
is going to the National
Security Agency.
1879
01:50:50,978 --> 01:50:52,321
(GLEEFUL EXCLAMATION)
1880
01:50:52,980 --> 01:50:55,017
How's that for
mainstream media,
Glenn?
1881
01:50:55,115 --> 01:50:57,823
They can't shut this down now.
And we've got
four more days of it.
1882
01:50:57,918 --> 01:50:59,989
They have no idea what
they're in store for.
1883
01:51:00,087 --> 01:51:01,157
(CHUCKLES)
That's fantastic!
1884
01:51:01,255 --> 01:51:04,031
MORGAN". mformer Speaker
of the House is on the grifl
tonighi and joins me now.
1885
01:51:04,124 --> 01:51:06,502
BUTZER: Another explosive
article has just appeared,
1886
01:51:06,593 --> 01:51:08,004
this time in
The Washington Post.
1887
01:51:08,095 --> 01:51:10,166
It's breaking news
that it reveals
1888
01:51:10,264 --> 01:51:13,643
another broad and secret
US. government
surveiliance program.
1889
01:51:13,700 --> 01:51:17,341
The Washington Post
and the Guardian
in London reporting
1890
01:51:17,437 --> 01:51:18,939
that the NSA and the FBI
1891
01:51:19,006 --> 01:51:22,146
are tapping directly
into the central servers
1892
01:51:22,209 --> 01:51:24,519
of nine leading
Internet companies,
1893
01:51:24,611 --> 01:51:27,182
including Microsoft,
Yahoo, Google, Facebook,
1894
01:51:27,281 --> 01:51:30,194
AOL, Skype, YouTube,
and Apple.
1895
01:51:30,284 --> 01:51:32,525
The Post says
they're extracting audio,
1896
01:51:32,619 --> 01:51:35,463
video, photographs,
e-mails, documents,
1897
01:51:35,522 --> 01:51:36,728
and connection logs
1898
01:51:36,823 --> 01:51:39,133
that enabie analysts
to track a person's
movements
1899
01:51:39,193 --> 01:51:41,469
and contacts over time.
1900
01:51:44,798 --> 01:51:48,336
OBAMA: In the abstract,
you can compfain
about Big Brother
1901
01:51:48,402 --> 01:51:52,544
and how this is a potential
program run amok.
1902
01:51:52,639 --> 01:51:54,812
But when you actually
look at the details,
1903
01:51:54,875 --> 01:51:56,980
then I think we've struck
the right balance.
1904
01:51:57,044 --> 01:52:00,218
FEMALE REPORTER:
U. S. President Barack Obama
staunchfy defends
1905
01:52:00,314 --> 01:52:02,487
U.S. government programs,
1906
01:52:02,549 --> 01:52:05,928
insisting that
the y were conducted
with broad safeguards
1907
01:52:06,019 --> 01:52:08,260
and to protect against abuse.
1908
01:52:10,157 --> 01:52:12,398
GLENN: He reached
the conclusion that
what was happening
1909
01:52:12,492 --> 01:52:14,904
inside this really
secretive agency
1910
01:52:14,995 --> 01:52:17,236
uh, was very
threatening and menacing
1911
01:52:17,331 --> 01:52:19,743
to privacy rights,
to internet freedom,
1912
01:52:19,833 --> 01:52:22,609
to basic political liberty,
not only in the United States,
1913
01:52:22,703 --> 01:52:24,740
but ail around the world.
1914
01:52:24,838 --> 01:52:28,547
And he felt it was
his duty as a human being
to dfscfose it.
1915
01:52:39,353 --> 01:52:42,562
Uh, my name's Ed Snowden.
I'm 29 years old.
1916
01:52:42,623 --> 01:52:44,102
Iwork for
Booz Allen Hamilton
1917
01:52:44,191 --> 01:52:47,695
as an infrastructure analyst
for NSA in Hawaii.
1918
01:52:49,029 --> 01:52:50,372
(SPEAKING MANDARIN)
1919
01:52:50,430 --> 01:52:52,376
(SPEAKING GERMAN)
1920
01:52:52,633 --> 01:52:54,203
(SPEAKING ITALIAN)
1921
01:52:54,301 --> 01:52:55,905
(SPEAKING JAPANESE)
1922
01:52:56,136 --> 01:52:57,774
(SPEAKING RUSSIAN)
1923
01:52:58,238 --> 01:53:00,479
The identity of the man
who sent the Obama...
1924
01:53:00,574 --> 01:53:04,784
You can? come forward
against the most powerful
inteiligence agencies
1925
01:53:04,878 --> 01:53:07,449
in the world without expecting
to have some risk.
1926
01:53:07,547 --> 01:53:09,618
They're just such
powerful adversaries.
1927
01:53:09,716 --> 01:53:12,629
So no one can
meaningfully oppose them.
1928
01:53:12,719 --> 01:53:13,789
He did i1.
1929
01:53:13,887 --> 01:53:16,731
You know,
if they want to get you,
they will gel' you, in time.
1930
01:53:16,790 --> 01:53:17,791
The kid did it!
1931
01:53:17,891 --> 01:53:19,768
SNQWDEN: And ifs just
gonna get worse for
the next generation,
1932
01:53:19,826 --> 01:53:21,237
as they extend
the capabilities
1933
01:53:21,295 --> 01:53:24,799
of this sort of
architecture of oppression.
1934
01:53:24,898 --> 01:53:29,244
And you realize that
you might be wflffng
to accept any risk,
1935
01:53:29,303 --> 01:53:33,080
as long as the public
is abie to make
their own decision
1936
01:53:33,140 --> 01:53:34,778
about how
this is applied.
1937
01:53:35,008 --> 01:53:37,750
Because even if
you haven't done
anything wrong,
1938
01:53:37,811 --> 01:53:39,791
you're being
watched and recorded.
1939
01:53:39,846 --> 01:53:40,984
(TELEPHONE RINGING)
1940
01:53:41,081 --> 01:53:44,255
Look, I had access
to the entire
intelligence community.
1941
01:53:44,318 --> 01:53:47,595
So, if I had wanted
to harm the U.S.,
1942
01:53:47,654 --> 01:53:51,864
you couid shutdown
the entire surveillance
system in an afternoon.
1943
01:53:51,958 --> 01:53:55,269
But that was never
my intention.
1944
01:53:55,329 --> 01:53:58,435
And I think anybody
that's making that argument,
1945
01:53:58,498 --> 01:54:02,844
they have to think,
if they were in my position,
1946
01:54:02,936 --> 01:54:06,679
living in Hawaii, in paradise,
and making a ton of money,
1947
01:54:06,773 --> 01:54:11,654
what would it take to make
you leave everything behind?
1948
01:54:12,679 --> 01:54:17,355
The fear that
§ think I have most
in regards 10 the outcome
1949
01:54:17,451 --> 01:54:20,193
for America of
these disclosures
1950
01:54:20,287 --> 01:54:22,494
is that nothing
will change.
1951
01:54:22,556 --> 01:54:26,368
In the coming months
and the coming years,
it?! just get worse.
1952
01:54:26,460 --> 01:54:28,997
And then eventually,
at some point,
1953
01:54:29,062 --> 01:54:33,169
some new leader
will be elected
1954
01:54:33,233 --> 01:54:37,147
who flips the switch,
1955
01:54:37,204 --> 01:54:44,053
and the people won't
be able to do anything,
by that point, to oppose it.
1956
01:54:44,911 --> 01:54:47,084
And m! be
turnkey tyranny.
1957
01:54:49,049 --> 01:54:50,221
GLENN: How you holding up?
1958
01:54:51,151 --> 01:54:53,256
Yeah, I'll be fine.
1959
01:54:54,154 --> 01:54:55,656
It's you guys
that have to start
watching out
1960
01:54:55,722 --> 01:54:57,201
for yourselves now.
1961
01:54:58,358 --> 01:55:00,895
You know, if you have
any reason to believe
1962
01:55:00,994 --> 01:55:05,568
that you're about to be
raided or intercepted
or breached in any way,
1963
01:55:05,665 --> 01:55:10,205
you format and destroy
all the data immediately.
1964
01:55:10,270 --> 01:55:13,251
You have
the encrypted backups.
1965
01:55:14,107 --> 01:55:15,450
And now, I...
1966
01:55:18,445 --> 01:55:21,392
I no longer have any access
to these files myself.
1967
01:55:21,448 --> 01:55:23,086
You guys have them all.
1968
01:55:25,118 --> 01:55:26,222
Uh...
1969
01:55:26,686 --> 01:55:29,462
Keep the focus on the stories,
that's all that matters.
1970
01:55:31,525 --> 01:55:33,198
Ifyou'll excuse me, ifs...
1971
01:55:35,929 --> 01:55:38,102
I think we should
all get some rest.
We can use it.
1972
01:55:38,365 --> 01:55:41,437
Yeah. I should probably
lay down on a soft bed
1973
01:55:41,535 --> 01:55:43,572
while I still have
one available, right?
1974
01:55:45,205 --> 01:55:47,082
You rest well.
Thank you.
1975
01:55:49,276 --> 01:55:50,755
See you tomorrow.
Good night.
1976
01:55:54,714 --> 01:55:55,715
(DOOR OPENS)
1977
01:55:56,983 --> 01:55:57,984
(DOOR CLOSES)
1978
01:56:18,738 --> 01:56:20,274
(WAVES CRASHING)
1979
01:56:21,141 --> 01:56:23,348
Can you at least tell me
where you're going?
1980
01:56:24,778 --> 01:56:26,587
(BIRDS CHIRPING)
1981
01:56:37,123 --> 01:56:38,431
(CHUCKLES)
1982
01:56:48,268 --> 01:56:49,804
SNOWDEN: Listen,
I know that I'm...
1983
01:57:03,617 --> 01:57:04,823
(ELEVATOR BELL DINGS)
1984
01:57:05,485 --> 01:57:07,123
(INDISTINCT CHATTER)
1985
01:57:08,154 --> 01:57:09,792
Ewen, I'm on
the second floor.
1986
01:57:11,291 --> 01:57:12,634
I don't see Tibbo.
1987
01:57:14,961 --> 01:57:17,237
No. No, no, wait.
Okay. I think I see him.
1988
01:57:18,131 --> 01:57:19,235
Shit!
1989
01:57:19,866 --> 01:57:22,312
There's press swarming
all over the hotel.
1990
01:57:22,369 --> 01:57:24,042
Yeah, I don't know.
I'll figure it out.
1991
01:57:24,137 --> 01:57:26,174
I'll stop them with
a press conference
or something.
1992
01:57:26,306 --> 01:57:30,220
Hey, I'm Glenn.
Look, we really
appreciate this.
1993
01:57:30,310 --> 01:57:32,347
We understand you're
one of the best lawyers
in Hong Kong.
1994
01:57:32,412 --> 01:57:33,482
TIBBO: We'll do our best.
1995
01:57:33,547 --> 01:57:36,528
We're gonna take him
to the UN first, then
I prefer not to reveal.
1996
01:57:36,583 --> 01:57:37,561
GLENN:
I understand.
1997
01:57:37,651 --> 01:57:39,927
Shit. They spotted me.
You guys get going.
1998
01:57:40,987 --> 01:57:42,864
(REPORTERS CLAMORING)
1999
01:57:43,657 --> 01:57:45,227
Okay, I will take
your questions in
an orderly fashion.
2000
01:57:45,325 --> 01:57:46,395
Where is Snowden?
Do you know where he is?
2001
01:57:46,493 --> 01:57:47,494
FEMALE REPORTER: Come on,
please let us know!
2002
01:57:48,161 --> 01:57:49,231
Did you get them?
2003
01:57:49,329 --> 01:57:50,933
Yeah, this is the best
I could do.
2004
01:57:51,031 --> 01:57:53,602
You're meeting Tibbo
in five minutes,
2005
01:57:53,700 --> 01:57:56,203
on the skybridge
opposite the large mall.
2006
01:57:59,940 --> 01:58:04,218
I've met a lot of
astonishing people
in my life, but you...
2007
01:58:04,277 --> 01:58:05,551
(BOTH CHUCKLE)
2008
01:58:06,413 --> 01:58:08,689
Okay, laddie.
Off you go.
2009
01:58:09,616 --> 01:58:11,118
I won't let you down.
2010
01:58:13,286 --> 01:58:15,789
You'd make a shitty journalist
without a camera.
2011
01:58:16,690 --> 01:58:18,431
Are you sure?
Yeah.
2012
01:58:18,892 --> 01:58:21,805
Okay. That's a great idea.
2013
01:58:23,697 --> 01:58:24,698
Thanks.
2014
01:58:27,067 --> 01:58:29,138
Oh! You don't want to
leave your luck behind.
2015
01:58:29,736 --> 01:58:30,737
SNOWDEN: Oh.
2016
01:58:30,971 --> 01:58:32,882
I think I'd like you
to have that.
2017
01:58:35,041 --> 01:58:37,282
Thanks for everything.
2018
01:58:37,944 --> 01:58:39,048
Thank you.
2019
01:58:57,597 --> 01:58:59,167
(REPORTERS CLAMORING)
2020
01:59:02,736 --> 01:59:04,079
(WHISPERS) I have
a van on the street.
2021
01:59:09,242 --> 01:59:12,416
FEMALE REPORTER:
NSA Ieaker Edward Snowden
has now been charged formafly
2022
01:59:12,479 --> 01:59:17,258
with espionage, theft,
and conversion of
go vemmeni property.
2023
01:59:17,350 --> 01:59:19,125
(CAMERA SHUTTER CLICKING)
U- S- offfcfafs
have asked Hong Kong
2024
01:59:19,185 --> 01:59:20,755
10 detain
the former contractor
2025
01:59:20,820 --> 01:59:22,663
on a provisional
arrest warrant.
2026
01:59:22,756 --> 01:59:24,827
Snowden has been
in Hong Kong since May...
2027
01:59:24,924 --> 01:59:28,133
MALE REPORTER 1:
-. remember, that was back
reportedly on May 20th.
2028
01:59:28,762 --> 01:59:31,333
MALE REPORTER 1: .-.Snowden
has checked out of the luxury
bore! in Hong Kong,
2029
01:59:31,431 --> 01:59:32,637
where he had been holed up.
2030
01:59:35,802 --> 01:59:36,837
TIBBO: You might
turn your eyes away.
2031
01:59:36,936 --> 01:59:38,347
FEMALE REPORTER:
...00: likely take
action against him
2032
01:59:38,438 --> 01:59:39,439
without an arrest
warrant from the U. S.
2033
01:59:39,506 --> 01:59:42,180
MALE REPORTER 2: The Justice
Department had to go
to Interpol so that Snowden,
2034
01:59:42,275 --> 01:59:44,448
if he tried to cross
a border, he could be
intercepted and detained.
2035
01:59:44,511 --> 01:59:45,956
MALE REPORTER 3:
Snowden is still in hiding.
2036
01:59:46,012 --> 01:59:47,013
So again...
2037
01:59:47,113 --> 01:59:48,786
MALE REPORTER 42 But the
Americans are now closing in.
2038
01:59:48,848 --> 01:59:51,021
They almost certainly know
where he is,
2039
01:59:51,117 --> 01:59:53,723
they just need
Hong Kong's approval
to get him.
2040
01:59:53,820 --> 01:59:55,527
FEMALE REPORTER 1:
The Hong Kong government
does have
2041
01:59:55,622 --> 01:59:57,659
an extradition agreement
with Washington.
2042
01:59:57,724 --> 01:59:58,862
But the ultimate decision...
2043
01:59:58,958 --> 02:00:02,371
FEMALE REPORTER 2:
So the big question here is,
where is he now?
2044
02:00:02,462 --> 02:00:03,634
(KNOCKS ON DOOR)
2045
02:00:04,964 --> 02:00:08,173
Thank you.
This is Ed. Ed, Mayana.
2046
02:00:08,234 --> 02:00:09,907
Hi, Ed. Welcome.
Thank you.
2047
02:00:10,336 --> 02:00:11,872
(GREETING IN TAMIL)
SNOWDEN; Thank you.
2048
02:00:12,806 --> 02:00:14,717
TIBBO: These are good people.
They won't talk.
2049
02:00:15,375 --> 02:00:18,185
I've been handling
their cases for years.
They're like you.
2050
02:00:18,244 --> 02:00:19,416
That's so nice.
2051
02:00:19,746 --> 02:00:21,657
They're stateless.
Yeah.
2052
02:00:22,148 --> 02:00:25,561
TIBBO: So we're wailing
on the UN application
for refugee status.
2053
02:00:25,652 --> 02:00:26,756
Yeah.
2054
02:00:26,853 --> 02:00:29,697
Just in case you're arrested,
this is where you can call me.
2055
02:00:29,756 --> 02:00:30,826
Yeah.
2056
02:00:32,992 --> 02:00:34,096
Good.
2057
02:00:34,828 --> 02:00:36,102
Thank you so much.
2058
02:00:40,333 --> 02:00:45,009
You may not feel it,
Ed, but you're not alone.
2059
02:00:45,872 --> 02:00:46,942
Thank you.
2060
02:00:49,542 --> 02:00:51,613
FEMALE REPORTER:
...his longtime girlfriend,
Lindsay Mills,
2061
02:00:51,711 --> 02:00:52,917
an amateur photographer,
2062
02:00:53,012 --> 02:00:54,423
has not been heard from.
2063
02:00:54,514 --> 02:00:56,425
Ifs believed
she's in seclusion
2064
02:00:56,516 --> 02:00:58,018
in her parents' home
in Maryland,
2065
02:00:58,084 --> 02:00:59,927
and has been questioned
by the FBI
2066
02:01:00,019 --> 02:01:01,930
and remains
under investigation.
2067
02:01:03,857 --> 02:01:07,600
MALE REPORTER: Ten days
have now gone by, as the world
looks for Edward Snowden.
2068
02:01:07,694 --> 02:01:11,107
Rumors have surfaced
that a rich supporter
is hiding Snowden
2069
02:01:11,197 --> 02:01:14,542
somewhere in
the Hong Kong hills
in a private mansion.
2070
02:01:40,093 --> 02:01:42,300
(WOMAN SPEAKING
INDISTINCTLY ON PA)
2071
02:01:46,566 --> 02:01:48,944
MALE REPORTER 12 It is now
confirmed that Edward Snowden
2072
02:01:49,002 --> 02:01:51,312
has boarded a flight
from Hong Kong 10 Moscow.
2073
02:01:51,404 --> 02:01:53,281
FEMALE REPORTER 1:
The State Department
is very dfsappofn ted
2074
02:01:53,339 --> 02:01:54,977
in the authorities
in Hang Kong
2075
02:01:55,074 --> 02:01:56,678
for letting Snowden go.
2076
02:01:56,776 --> 02:01:59,313
MALE REPORTER 2: He was
accompanied by a
representative from WikfLeaks.
2077
02:01:59,412 --> 02:02:02,586
MALE REPORTER 31 Snowden is
trying to make his way
from Russia to Cuba,
2078
02:02:02,649 --> 02:02:04,856
and then to Ecuador
for political asylum.
2079
02:02:04,951 --> 02:02:07,158
FEMALE REPORTER 2: Moscow
airport officiafs say
he won't be permitted
2080
02:02:07,253 --> 02:02:08,664
to make his connective flight
2081
02:02:08,755 --> 02:02:11,167
because the US. government
has revoked his passport.
2082
02:02:11,257 --> 02:02:13,965
MALE REPORTER 4: The
United States Secretary
of State, John Kerry,
2083
02:02:14,027 --> 02:02:17,941
outraged that Russia
is refusing to arrest
the American fugitive.
2084
02:02:17,997 --> 02:02:22,173
MALE REPORTER 5: Now a man
without a country stranded
inside the Moscow airport.
2085
02:02:22,268 --> 02:02:24,942
No, I'm not gonna
be scrambling jets, uh,
2086
02:02:25,004 --> 02:02:29,612
to get a 29-year-old hacker.
2087
02:02:31,177 --> 02:02:32,656
FEMALE REPORTER 3: The
President of Bolivia's plane
2088
02:02:32,712 --> 02:02:35,022
was forced down in
Austria airspace today
2089
02:02:35,114 --> 02:02:39,358
following U.S. suspicions
that Snowden may
have been on board.
2090
02:02:39,452 --> 02:02:41,830
MALE REPORTER 8'. After
39 days in the airport hotel,
2091
02:02:41,888 --> 02:02:44,334
he's left with
his Russian iawyer
and a iega§ adviser
2092
02:02:44,390 --> 02:02:46,529
from WikiLeaks,
Sarah Harrison.
2093
02:02:47,393 --> 02:02:50,203
MALE REPORTER 7: He can now
enjoy ab' of the sweet,
sweet liberty
2094
02:02:50,296 --> 02:02:53,470
allowed under the regime
of President Vladimir Putin.
2095
02:02:53,533 --> 02:02:56,707
TRUMP: There is still
a thing called execution.
2096
02:02:56,803 --> 02:02:58,146
Mr. Snowden
actually deserves asylum
2097
02:02:58,204 --> 02:02:59,512
and protection
around the globe.
2098
02:02:59,572 --> 02:03:02,712
But he does have asylum
in Russia at least.
2099
02:03:02,809 --> 02:03:04,811
He can engage in
the debate he started.
2100
02:03:05,411 --> 02:03:06,719
And the world
now has an example
2101
02:03:06,813 --> 02:03:08,053
that you can do
the right thing,
2102
02:03:08,147 --> 02:03:11,890
and you donfl have
to end up in a cage,
one mom, a prison.
2103
02:03:13,987 --> 02:03:17,161
MALE REPORTER: After more
than a year m the country
under temporary asylum,
2104
02:03:17,223 --> 02:03:21,672
Edward Snowden has received
a three-year residency permit
m Russia.
2105
02:03:30,003 --> 02:03:33,041
MALE MODERATOR: And now,
here live from Moscow,
2106
02:03:33,339 --> 02:03:34,909
Edward Snowden.
(APPLAUSE)
2107
02:03:36,276 --> 02:03:38,187
Hi, Ed. How you doing?
2108
02:03:43,549 --> 02:03:45,028
SNOWDENI (ON SPEAKERS)
Thank you.
2109
02:03:45,618 --> 02:03:48,030
Uh, forgive me if
I get my bearings
a lime bit here.
2110
02:03:48,087 --> 02:03:50,567
People always said
I was kind of a robot.
2111
02:03:50,623 --> 02:03:51,795
(AUDIENCE LAUGHS)
2112
02:03:52,058 --> 02:03:54,561
MODERATOR: How is I! that
you came to be in Russia?
2113
02:03:55,194 --> 02:03:56,935
Well, I never intended
to come here.
2114
02:03:57,030 --> 02:04:00,944
You know,
my passport was revoked
en route to Latin America.
2115
02:04:01,034 --> 02:04:03,640
So when people say,
"Why are you in Russia?"
2116
02:04:03,736 --> 02:04:06,615
I say,
"Ask the State Department."
2117
02:04:07,540 --> 02:04:11,044
Does that mean you're willing
to go back and face trial?
2118
02:04:11,744 --> 02:04:15,658
Absolutely, if it was
a fair and public trial.
2119
02:04:16,282 --> 02:04:19,058
Unfortunately, that's not
what would happen right now,
2120
02:04:19,118 --> 02:04:23,225
as long as the Espionage Act
is being used against
whistleblowers.
2121
02:04:24,557 --> 02:04:26,503
MODERATOR: Do you still
think it was worth it?
2122
02:04:26,592 --> 02:04:27,627
Yes, I do.
2123
02:04:27,727 --> 02:04:31,641
Without the information
to start a public debate,
2124
02:04:31,731 --> 02:04:33,142
we're lost.
You know...
2125
02:04:33,733 --> 02:04:37,271
The people being able
to question our government
2126
02:04:37,337 --> 02:04:39,977
and hold it accountable,
2127
02:04:40,073 --> 02:04:44,988
that's the principle
that the United States
of America was founded on.
2128
02:04:45,078 --> 02:04:48,821
So if we want to protect
our national security,
2129
02:04:48,915 --> 02:04:51,327
we should be protecting
that principle.
2130
02:04:52,952 --> 02:04:55,262
MODERATOR: What if your
argument fails on deaf ears?
2131
02:04:55,321 --> 02:04:57,665
What if our leaders
don't act?
2132
02:04:58,458 --> 02:05:01,667
I believe that,
if nothing changes,
2133
02:05:02,662 --> 02:05:07,270
more and more penpie
all over the world
will come forward.
2134
02:05:07,934 --> 02:05:12,940
Whistleblowers
and journalists,
but also regular citizens.
2135
02:05:13,773 --> 02:05:19,621
And when those in power
try to hide by
classifying everything,
2136
02:05:20,346 --> 02:05:23,190
we will call them out on it.
2137
02:05:23,716 --> 02:05:29,496
And when they try to scare us
into sacrificing our basic
human rights,
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02:05:29,555 --> 02:05:31,865
we won't be intimidated,
2139
02:05:31,958 --> 02:05:36,634
and we won't give up,
and we will not be silenced.
2140
02:05:38,231 --> 02:05:40,074
You're atone in
a foreign country,
2141
02:05:40,166 --> 02:05:43,409
you'll be extradited
if you try to leave.
2142
02:05:43,503 --> 02:05:45,176
That must be ham.
2143
02:05:57,683 --> 02:06:01,221
When I left Hawaii,
I lost everything.
2144
02:06:04,891 --> 02:06:06,871
And I had a stable life.
2145
02:06:07,193 --> 02:06:08,604
(CHUCKLES)
2146
02:06:09,896 --> 02:06:12,001
A stable love.
2147
02:06:12,065 --> 02:06:14,011
Family. Future.
2148
02:06:15,835 --> 02:06:17,678
And I lost that life,
2149
02:06:20,606 --> 02:06:22,677
but I've gained
a new one,
2150
02:06:25,111 --> 02:06:26,954
and I'm incredibly
fortunate.
2151
02:06:29,415 --> 02:06:30,723
And I think
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02:06:32,718 --> 02:06:34,197
the greatest freedom
that I've gained
2153
02:06:34,253 --> 02:06:37,860
is the fact that
I no longer have to worry
about what happens tomorrow,
2154
02:06:37,924 --> 02:06:40,302
because I'm happy with
what I've done today.
2155
02:06:45,932 --> 02:06:48,776
Live from the Internet,
Edward Snowden!
2156
02:06:48,868 --> 02:06:50,541
(APPLAUSE)
2157
02:06:52,071 --> 02:06:53,982
(CHEERING AND WHISTLING)
2158
02:08:06,779 --> 02:08:08,383
MALE REPORTER:
Has your mindset
changed about him ?
2159
02:08:08,481 --> 02:08:12,554
Is he now more whistleblower
than he is a, uh, hacker?
2160
02:08:49,989 --> 02:08:51,935
MALE REPORTER: What is going
to happen to Edward Snowden?
2161
02:08:52,024 --> 02:08:54,732
He's going to die in Moscow.
He's not coming home.
2162
02:09:32,798 --> 02:09:35,039
Edward Snowden,
is he a traitor or a hero?
2163
02:09:35,101 --> 02:09:38,378
HILLARY CLINTON: He stole
very important information.
2164
02:09:56,956 --> 02:09:58,299
MALE REPORTER: We have
breaking news tonight...
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02:09:58,391 --> 02:09:59,392
Among {he reforms,
2166
02:09:59,458 --> 02:10:02,132
work with Congress
to change how the NSA
coffecrs phone records.
2167
02:10:03,329 --> 02:10:05,775
Mandate more transparency
by the secret court
2168
02:10:05,831 --> 02:10:07,936
that regularly approves
the surveillance.
2169
02:10:09,835 --> 02:10:11,815
MAN: Well, is it
a victory for Edward Snowden?
2170
02:10:11,904 --> 02:10:13,747
That's gonna depend
on the eye of the beholder.
2171
02:10:15,508 --> 02:10:17,920
LINCOLN CHAFFEE:
The American government
was acting fffegaffy.
2172
02:10:17,977 --> 02:10:20,924
HILLARY CLINTON: tdonT think
he shoutd be brought home
without facing the music.
2173
02:10:22,948 --> 02:10:24,791
SANDERS: Snowden played
a very important role
2174
02:10:24,850 --> 02:10:26,989
in educating
the American people
2175
02:10:27,086 --> 02:10:31,501
in the degree in which
our civil liberties and
our constitutionm rights
2176
02:10:31,590 --> 02:10:32,694
are being undermined.