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Good day, my name is Nicolas Winding Refn.

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I have written and directed this film, which is the third part of the Pusher trilogy.

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It's called, in simple Danish, Pusher 3.

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It also has an international title, I'm the Angel of Death.

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Hey, I'm Zlatko Burić.

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I played the character Milo in all three Pusher movies.

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And I can only say, when I'm sitting next to you now, Zlatko,

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you haven't changed much since that time, so you're holding up really well.

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Okay. 72 and still strong.

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Still going strong, baby.

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Okay, good, good.

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This is one of those hunger for authenticity.

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We had casted in an NA location, so all these actors came together for an NA meeting,

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which I had visited to try and get an idea of how it went.

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And they did a really good job, I think.

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But it's actually true, it's at the NA location, where the NA meeting took place.

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And for me, it was a really good intro to those days.

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And we filmed it the way you always do, chronologically.

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One month before, I went to almost every date.

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To every date.

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And I really knew the people, and I was always in town, from the time I met him.

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And it was a really good intro for me, because I saw the flash images from the mid-90s.

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I've had a bit of a wild day, where the heroine is a bit fancy, and so on.

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And in that way, it was really, really scary.

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It was so heavy.

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But it was an experience, in that way.

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It's very painful.

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Very painful, yes. You can really touch those people.

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It's a very uplifting situation, but also very sad.

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But at the same time, there are also people, who want to make a living out of it.

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And you really have to support that.

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And that's what they do, in some places.

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How they share with each other.

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But that was our fourth film.

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This one, together.

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Slakko.

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It was also the last Danish film I made.

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I didn't get a job in Denmark after that film.

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Only with Johanna in Trollskoven.

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Yes, in Trollskoven.

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With the film, it was over in Denmark.

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But now, you're an international world star.

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It's fun to see, how Kim Bodnier, Mads Mikkelsen and you, have had a career development.

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All three of us.

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Four of us.

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I often think about it.

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The crossings and the meetings.

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It's really...

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Do you remember, we met in...

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I was 24, and I thought I was the god of the world.

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And I remember, when you came to the casting, for the first time.

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We casted criminals, with a different ethnic background.

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And I remember, when you came, you were a bit thinner.

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You looked like Crusty the Clown, with the hair.

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You say that, yes.

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And I remember...

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Oh no, I thought, that's not what I thought I should be.

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And I remember, I went upstairs, and the casting came.

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The caster, I think.

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The senior, Larg Nielsen.

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Who later became an actor and singer.

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And said, that you were so fantastic.

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And I remember, I came down, and did an improvisation scene with you.

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And of course, you were a god's gift.

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A real god's gift.

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Then you had to go, and we didn't know you.

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And no one knew anything.

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It was that time, we had a number for you, on Rust.

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Where you were a cleaner.

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No, on Banana Republic.

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On Banana Republic, yes. And then we met on Rust.

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And then we met on Rust.

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And I was so nervous, because if you disappeared, or something.

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Then I couldn't find you again.

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But you were the one, who started a lot of these movies.

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How they developed.

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And here, it was Sven.

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Who was also in both, Pusher 2 and Pusher 3.

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It was a lot, that the characters, went again.

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In other stories.

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Who have made a universe.

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It's a companion here.

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And he is actually the only one, who is also in all three Pusher movies, except you.

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Vania?

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Yes, Vania, yes.

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So, it was the only two, who are in the whole way.

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And Levina, right?

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Yes, and Damaia Neller.

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She was in a reality TV show, I remember. Robinson.

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I think it's really fantastic.

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Discuss.

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I think, what was funny, when I made Pusher 3.

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It was, that everything had to be of an ethnic background.

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Everyone was not of the usual Danish origin.

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So, in a way, it was a really modern picture.

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Of course, Copenhagen, where the movie took place.

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But all of Denmark.

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I think, that was one of the things, I liked the most about the movie.

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Talent, in reality.

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It was really fun to make Pusher 3, I think.

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In a way, Marinella could continue as an actress, but unfortunately not.

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We are in the wrong place, because there are so many, who ...

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Otherwise, she has video concentration and everything.

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But if you have to talk about, how things are done here at home.

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Then you can get to the heart of it.

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It's a complex, what she has here.

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It changes our relationship.

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And this is now a barbecue bar in Nørrebro.

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The whole movie takes place in Nørrebro.

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As you remember, Pusher 2 took place in Amager.

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And Pusher 1 took place in Vesterbro.

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So, it was very categorical, that we were only allowed to film here.

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Yes.

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And what is it now?

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Is it a shoe store?

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I think, it became a barbecue bar or a shoe store.

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Or a shawarma place.

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But it was a pretty wild party.

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It was actually there, on the ground floor.

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It brings back a lot of memories.

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It's actually ...

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Isn't it the start of the Nørrebro quarter, where we filmed there?

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So, this one?

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Pusher 3?

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No, it's at Nørrebro.

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So, far out at Nørrebro.

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Yes, but Nørrebro is just after the Nørrebro station.

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Yes, it was around there.

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The outer Nørrebro, that's where it was supposed to take place.

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It was also where we found the club premises.

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And Blitte was on the inner Nørrebro.

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Yes, it was more on the inner Nørrebro, like Torning Rises Bridge.

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And you can't recognize it, when I walk past the places, where we filmed Pusher 1.

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It's all gone.

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It's all gone.

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And Levino?

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Look, there we are out here.

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It's Nørrebro's round part.

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No, what is it called? Station?

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Station, Nørrebro Station.

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And then we went to the Albanian club.

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Yes, it was just across the street.

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And it's all real.

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Yes, everything is real.

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And it was a real Albanian club.

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Yes, there was no...

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That's how the club sounded.

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And the colors were very Albanian.

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The young Albanian actors were really good.

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Super.

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And...

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I sometimes go to my local fishmonger, who is also from Albania.

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He knows all these people.

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And they all have a very special Ramadan.

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Like I used to.

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Who got a pretty big career afterwards.

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Also abroad, actually.

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But he deserved it.

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He was a golden boy.

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I remember, when we were...

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I was at the casting with you that day.

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And we were totally...

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Can you remember that?

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We could see them together.

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He is such a good actor.

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He is really, really good.

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That's him with the other golden chain, Dan.

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And they also used him in Copenhagen Cowboy.

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How many of these characters also came back.

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From the third season.

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And Ramadan, right?

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Can't you just ask?

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What?

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Who was...

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Ramadan was him.

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Dan, yes.

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He was just not that tough anymore.

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Yes, yes.

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But he played super.

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I would say that these kids really knew what they were talking about, when it came to filming.

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And I love that scene.

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Because it is so realistic.

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Because Ramadan plays an old Albanian.

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He knows Yugoslavia, so he has two languages.

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From Yugoslavia.

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He knows Serbo-Croatian, Macedonian and Albanian.

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But he...

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The boss, yes.

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He knows...

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It happens in real life.

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And the way we talk, criss-cross, Serbo-Croatian, Albanian, Macedonian and so on.

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And Ramadan snores all the time.

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It's super.

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It's so lively and so realistic.

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I love that scene.

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But that was also the whole thing.

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It was like a bridge.

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How the language develops, when there are so many new sounds.

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And so many new ethnic...

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Rhythms.

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Rhythms and music.

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I think that Pusher 3 reminds me the most of my upbringing in New York.

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In a way.

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Because all the sounds of different languages, which I always walked up and down the avenues.

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Which city did you grow up in?

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17th street between 5th and 6th.

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Manhattan.

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I'm a real New Yorker.

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If you're not in Manhattan, you're not in New York.

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And you've just been there.

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But that was also how these films were supposed to develop.

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From the first film to the second and the third.

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Because it took a few years before Pusher 2 and Pusher 3 came out.

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And it was the classic model where I owed a lot of money.

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So I had to make a Pusher 2 and a Pusher 3.

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And at first I didn't want to.

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But then I did it and it turned out to be a really good experience.

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I have a lot of good memories of this.

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And I also think that the fact that we basically had something with the first Pusher.

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Which then also went into Pusher 2.

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But Pusher 3 in a way.

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Which I think gathered everything we had done over the other two films.

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There we have little Mohammed.

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It was very radical.

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Pusher 3 in a way.

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And it was here where you...

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It was a club we had found that we turned into your club.

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But it was also because it became very theatrical.

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So the idea was that it was just a top scene.

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And then you were allowed to move as you wanted to.

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And then the cameras could just run around.

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We were allowed to be free in our dialogues.

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And we made a lot...

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But we lost a little.

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I watched the film a little yesterday.

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But we lost in the subtitles.

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The small jokes.

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But it's that.

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But because we were free in our dialogues, we wanted to play it naturally.

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I had a couple of gangsta consultants around me.

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When we were just about to ask.

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When you take a plastic bag, you clean it with the T-shirt.

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There are a couple of nuts in everything.

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And then you put it in a plastic bag.

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But the whole idea with these films was to create...

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In a way...

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Authenticity.

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Reality.

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Authenticity.

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People recognize it.

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Especially people in the family.

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I've never heard anyone say,

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Wow, that's it.

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That's something.

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He was good here.

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I don't really know what became of him.

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Yes, he was also very good.

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And it was fun.

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It was like a game for everyone.

260
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Because everyone was on the premise.

261
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But also, you could say that...

262
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The downfall that follows is also something that everyone...

263
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And it's good because he really represents the new immigrants.

264
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He speaks in a different way than the old immigrants.

265
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I mean, it was the king's fall.

266
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Milo was a gangsta king who was about to lose everything he had built up.

267
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And then a new generation comes along.

268
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As usual.

269
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Then they get the power over him.

270
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And then he has to take everything back.

271
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And then he has to re-enact it all again.

272
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By being even crazier than some of them are.

273
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It almost sounds like Shakespeare.

274
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There were a lot of big emotions in these three films.

275
00:16:26,450 --> 00:16:34,770
Maybe Edan was more naive in his arrogance and punk-ness.

276
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But it's still click-sympathy.

277
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I've never really been fascinated by that world.

278
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But what I'm fascinated by is the people under pressure.

279
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And then the extreme, sometimes slow, sometimes fast downfall.

280
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Which in reality is dramatic.

281
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Where the consequences come from one's actions.

282
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It was like all three films were built around one main character.

283
00:17:13,330 --> 00:17:18,070
And you only experienced everything from that person's point of view.

284
00:17:18,070 --> 00:17:23,530
And the moral of the story was that if you live with pain, you die with pain.

285
00:17:27,270 --> 00:17:32,910
And the fact that you got some goods you didn't know about.

286
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Like ecstasy, which was very popular at the time.

287
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A lot of people talked about it.

288
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What do you say to that?

289
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I don't understand you at all.

290
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And then you have to write it down.

291
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They should say something about linguistic freedom.

292
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No.

293
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The young ones, I mean the students.

294
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Did you ever imagine when you were a young man that you would end your career like this?

295
00:18:11,540 --> 00:18:14,460
Or not end, but develop your career?

296
00:18:15,100 --> 00:18:15,500
No.

297
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I played theater and music.

298
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I was on stage from when I was 16.

299
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I was mostly inspired by the movies.

300
00:18:29,780 --> 00:18:31,100
But I didn't...

301
00:18:32,940 --> 00:18:36,540
It was only because of you that I started acting.

302
00:18:39,300 --> 00:18:42,260
I had a bad feeling about the movies.

303
00:18:42,260 --> 00:18:45,330
I didn't like the industrial and hierarchy.

304
00:18:46,820 --> 00:18:47,540
And then I started acting.

305
00:18:49,140 --> 00:18:53,100
But it's good that we started with the first movie where there was no hierarchy whatsoever.

306
00:18:53,720 --> 00:18:57,060
So it's okay to live like a rock band.

307
00:18:57,860 --> 00:18:59,380
It was like being a rock band.

308
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Especially when we did the first one.

309
00:19:02,260 --> 00:19:05,420
And in the beginning it was like that.

310
00:19:05,660 --> 00:19:08,000
In the beginning it started as a rock band.

311
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We are the best.

312
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We are the group.

313
00:19:12,540 --> 00:19:16,000
There was something about the two movies.

314
00:19:16,980 --> 00:19:17,920
Pusher and Bleeder.

315
00:19:23,060 --> 00:19:28,260
For all their mistakes they have something original in them.

316
00:19:29,100 --> 00:19:31,820
And Bleeder matches the style.

317
00:19:32,880 --> 00:19:33,800
It gets better and better.

318
00:19:33,800 --> 00:19:37,280
It's hard to hear from people who don't know you.

319
00:19:39,280 --> 00:19:40,400
It's hard to hear.

320
00:19:41,700 --> 00:19:43,420
It was always hard to look back.

321
00:19:45,800 --> 00:19:47,740
He was really good down here.

322
00:19:47,920 --> 00:19:50,180
I don't know what became of him.

323
00:19:55,500 --> 00:19:59,240
I think many of them were Slaghus-friends.

324
00:20:01,080 --> 00:20:02,680
We kept it inside the family.

325
00:20:03,800 --> 00:20:04,820
That was the whole point.

326
00:20:05,400 --> 00:20:08,740
Down that street was the party place.

327
00:20:09,100 --> 00:20:11,840
On the other side of the street was the Albanian club.

328
00:20:12,320 --> 00:20:14,280
And your club was on the other corner.

329
00:20:14,460 --> 00:20:18,160
So the whole movie took place on the other side of the street.

330
00:20:20,540 --> 00:20:23,500
It was a couple of hundred meters.

331
00:20:24,400 --> 00:20:25,400
So we filmed the whole movie.

332
00:20:25,820 --> 00:20:27,520
There was a lot of light every day.

333
00:20:28,280 --> 00:20:29,900
And of course there was a chronological order.

334
00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:36,280
I said to myself that I wanted to be a part of these meetings.

335
00:20:36,740 --> 00:20:38,580
I'm not going back to where I came from.

336
00:20:38,640 --> 00:20:41,660
So you went to these meetings a long time before?

337
00:20:42,500 --> 00:20:44,700
Yes, a long time ago. I think it was a month or so.

338
00:20:45,680 --> 00:20:47,640
That was the day.

339
00:20:47,700 --> 00:20:49,620
Can you remember Bleeder, Mads and me?

340
00:20:49,700 --> 00:20:52,180
We were in that fantastic video store.

341
00:20:52,740 --> 00:20:54,260
We worked so hard.

342
00:20:54,260 --> 00:20:57,220
We worked from 10 o'clock to 5 o'clock.

343
00:21:01,720 --> 00:21:05,100
You get a real picture of it.

344
00:21:05,440 --> 00:21:12,480
When we got to the store, I knew that I couldn't be a porn star.

345
00:21:13,940 --> 00:21:17,100
I was going to say, no, that's also your voice.

346
00:21:18,280 --> 00:21:22,040
We made a funny scene from that experience.

347
00:21:22,040 --> 00:21:25,640
But it's hard to find it on your own.

348
00:21:26,540 --> 00:21:27,680
It's really hard.

349
00:21:29,600 --> 00:21:31,620
He has a fantastic face.

350
00:21:33,820 --> 00:21:35,800
He looks like a spaghetti roaster.

351
00:21:37,580 --> 00:21:40,640
And the whole idea was that it would take place over one night.

352
00:21:41,760 --> 00:21:43,240
Like the other movies.

353
00:21:43,940 --> 00:21:46,420
The first movie took place over a week.

354
00:21:46,900 --> 00:21:50,620
And then Pusher 2 took place over a certain amount of time.

355
00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:58,140
And then I had planned to make four more of these kinds of movies.

356
00:21:59,920 --> 00:22:04,520
Some of the other characters I had planned to make movies about.

357
00:22:07,220 --> 00:22:13,380
I remember that the Danish reviewers were so negative and violent

358
00:22:13,380 --> 00:22:15,580
in their negativity towards the movie,

359
00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:19,800
that I never wanted to work in Denmark again.

360
00:22:21,480 --> 00:22:25,800
I remember you right before the premiere, when you came to me.

361
00:22:26,820 --> 00:22:30,960
You knew beforehand that I was going to be there.

362
00:22:31,500 --> 00:22:34,040
And that was hot.

363
00:22:34,380 --> 00:22:36,000
But that's just the small things.

364
00:22:36,780 --> 00:22:39,540
The small things and Jante Lawen and Miss Sunden.

365
00:22:40,100 --> 00:22:41,940
But we have to get over that.

366
00:22:42,360 --> 00:22:46,000
Because we're here for the sake of the youth.

367
00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:46,960
And they don't care.

368
00:22:48,340 --> 00:22:51,940
And that's the good thing about the digital revolution.

369
00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:57,780
There are no more judges or people who have an opinion.

370
00:22:57,920 --> 00:22:58,960
Because everyone has an opinion.

371
00:22:59,160 --> 00:23:00,840
And everyone can express their opinion.

372
00:23:07,740 --> 00:23:11,820
I think one of the things that was fun about making these movies

373
00:23:11,820 --> 00:23:15,460
was that it was a kind of discovery.

374
00:23:16,530 --> 00:23:18,420
It was like discovering actors.

375
00:23:19,500 --> 00:23:23,180
Because none of these people had made a movie before.

376
00:23:23,780 --> 00:23:28,820
So it was a way to discover talents.

377
00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:36,900
And then it's sad that not many of them got a successful career.

378
00:23:36,900 --> 00:23:39,880
And it was a big deal with the video games.

379
00:23:41,100 --> 00:23:43,000
Everything had to be authentic.

380
00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:46,400
We had to copy it completely.

381
00:23:47,100 --> 00:23:52,200
Yes, with all the pictures on the wall.

382
00:23:54,740 --> 00:23:58,160
And then Milo makes his big mistake.

383
00:23:58,680 --> 00:24:01,240
He's standing on Little Mohammed.

384
00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:02,980
But in reality, Milo was snubbed.

385
00:24:02,980 --> 00:24:05,380
And that's what you discover. Everyone snubs everyone.

386
00:24:06,340 --> 00:24:07,960
Now I have to tell you something.

387
00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:11,520
The one where they poisoned my Salma.

388
00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:13,400
I still don't believe in that.

389
00:24:13,740 --> 00:24:15,240
I don't believe in it either.

390
00:24:16,540 --> 00:24:19,240
It was the two of them.

391
00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:25,020
But it's also about a gangster king.

392
00:24:25,760 --> 00:24:29,380
And all his men get a stomach poison.

393
00:24:29,580 --> 00:24:32,200
And that's not the sexiest thing in the world.

394
00:24:32,980 --> 00:24:34,180
It's a lot about status.

395
00:24:34,580 --> 00:24:36,020
It's really bad.

396
00:24:38,580 --> 00:24:39,840
Top fiasco.

397
00:24:40,900 --> 00:24:43,240
So they have stomach problems.

398
00:24:47,740 --> 00:24:50,840
But you like the freedom as an actor, right?

399
00:24:51,320 --> 00:24:51,740
Yes, absolutely.

400
00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:56,880
But it's limited freedom.

401
00:24:57,360 --> 00:24:59,360
I never tried to make a movie.

402
00:24:59,360 --> 00:25:02,420
It's the worst experience of my life.

403
00:25:02,820 --> 00:25:03,700
I wanted to be free.

404
00:25:06,260 --> 00:25:08,460
But it doesn't make sense.

405
00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:09,920
No, it doesn't.

406
00:25:11,100 --> 00:25:14,340
But here, the freedom is good, because there are frames.

407
00:25:26,150 --> 00:25:28,280
We were in contact with Morten.

408
00:25:29,360 --> 00:25:32,020
So we knew where we could go.

409
00:25:32,300 --> 00:25:33,520
That's why I love it.

410
00:25:33,980 --> 00:25:35,700
It's like improvisation music.

411
00:25:35,980 --> 00:25:37,500
You have some cues.

412
00:25:38,820 --> 00:25:43,680
You hold on to it, but you're free.

413
00:25:44,020 --> 00:25:45,280
And the whole dialogue.

414
00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:50,320
All the lines are really good.

415
00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:54,120
And the rhythm.

416
00:25:56,180 --> 00:25:57,860
And that's what I like.

417
00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:00,620
And the pauses.

418
00:26:01,060 --> 00:26:04,200
That's where the intensity is.

419
00:26:05,220 --> 00:26:07,340
And the pauses are a bit faster.

420
00:26:08,420 --> 00:26:10,180
And that gives it...

421
00:26:10,180 --> 00:26:12,360
And you're afraid to take pauses.

422
00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:14,440
Or mistakes.

423
00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:19,440
It's a normal situation on set.

424
00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:21,120
People come with lines.

425
00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:23,880
And they take pauses.

426
00:26:26,060 --> 00:26:28,140
We try to relax.

427
00:26:29,360 --> 00:26:30,180
It's a bit like when you wear a tattoo.

428
00:26:30,580 --> 00:26:32,640
It was something you used a lot.

429
00:26:33,820 --> 00:26:35,200
That's why it's a tattoo.

430
00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:39,880
And it's a bit of a wink-wink.

431
00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:44,440
I started my career by making commercials for the NATO.

432
00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:45,440
Okay.

433
00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:52,840
I worked for a very...

434
00:26:56,100 --> 00:26:57,300
Significant and well-known

435
00:26:57,300 --> 00:26:59,800
commercial producer, Jesper Jarkild.

436
00:27:00,500 --> 00:27:03,320
He had started a lot of commercials

437
00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:04,840
for the generation before me.

438
00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:06,820
And the generation before them.

439
00:27:07,360 --> 00:27:10,680
Everyone had been through his machine.

440
00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:14,180
He later had a career.

441
00:27:14,540 --> 00:27:16,960
I was an assistant to Jesper Jarkild.

442
00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:20,140
He had made a NATO campaign

443
00:27:20,140 --> 00:27:22,840
where he filmed people

444
00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:24,660
and asked them why they joined NATO.

445
00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:29,680
I had just been expelled from the theater school

446
00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:31,140
in New York and had come home.

447
00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:35,420
I didn't really have a big career ahead of me.

448
00:27:36,260 --> 00:27:38,040
And then I came up there and was with him.

449
00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:42,340
And then I was allowed to make these NATO commercials

450
00:27:42,340 --> 00:27:45,400
where I went out to document and film people

451
00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:46,140
who joined NATO.

452
00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:53,580
And then I made a few campaigns.

453
00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:55,560
And then Jesper Jarkild decided

454
00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:57,480
what to include and what not to include.

455
00:27:57,900 --> 00:28:00,140
And then I learned how to edit and put together.

456
00:28:00,540 --> 00:28:01,820
And I learned how to instruct.

457
00:28:02,700 --> 00:28:05,860
Because you had to get people to say things about NATO

458
00:28:05,860 --> 00:28:07,180
that they didn't mean.

459
00:28:07,580 --> 00:28:11,220
So you had to inspire them or manipulate them.

460
00:28:11,860 --> 00:28:13,600
And that was a good way to teach them

461
00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:20,280
how to act when people need to express themselves

462
00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:22,700
and how to get it done

463
00:28:22,700 --> 00:28:24,840
so that they discover it themselves.

464
00:28:26,500 --> 00:28:28,180
And here is of course

465
00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:31,480
probably the most humiliating thing.

466
00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:33,060
For a gangster king.

467
00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:36,200
That's what he's made of.

468
00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:40,440
With his troops.

469
00:28:41,020 --> 00:28:42,280
That they can't do anything.

470
00:28:46,050 --> 00:28:49,290
But I can say that gangsters also have problems like this.

471
00:28:51,090 --> 00:28:53,810
And Morten Søborg films all the movies.

472
00:28:55,190 --> 00:28:56,670
All these three Pusher movies.

473
00:28:58,490 --> 00:29:00,630
And he did that very well.

474
00:29:02,010 --> 00:29:03,890
And they were filmed on film.

475
00:29:04,690 --> 00:29:08,510
So that was...

476
00:29:08,510 --> 00:29:10,230
It was filmed on film?

477
00:29:10,530 --> 00:29:13,910
It was the last time I filmed on film.

478
00:29:14,590 --> 00:29:17,090
And after that I started shooting a lot digitally.

479
00:29:17,890 --> 00:29:19,790
But now I'm interested in filming on film again.

480
00:29:20,050 --> 00:29:22,190
Because I think it's fun to film on film.

481
00:29:25,350 --> 00:29:29,410
Because everything has become so digitalized.

482
00:29:29,570 --> 00:29:32,470
So now it's almost more fun to make films again.

483
00:29:33,390 --> 00:29:34,610
But also to make films.

484
00:29:35,250 --> 00:29:39,530
I remember there was a camera for blind people.

485
00:29:40,370 --> 00:29:43,370
A handheld camera for 35 people.

486
00:29:43,710 --> 00:29:45,950
There were only two in the country.

487
00:29:46,430 --> 00:29:47,450
Yes, because it was all the way in Denmark.

488
00:29:49,230 --> 00:29:50,990
And that was hard for Morten.

489
00:29:51,310 --> 00:29:52,270
And Levino.

490
00:29:52,370 --> 00:29:54,130
We also have Levino in Pusher 1.

491
00:29:58,150 --> 00:30:00,670
And all these people...

492
00:30:00,670 --> 00:30:01,790
I can go...

493
00:30:01,940 --> 00:30:02,980
Levino, he's gone.

494
00:30:03,220 --> 00:30:04,140
He's really gone.

495
00:30:04,260 --> 00:30:05,160
He's a nice person.

496
00:30:06,300 --> 00:30:07,160
He's got some insight.

497
00:30:08,460 --> 00:30:09,720
He's got some really good eyes.

498
00:30:10,300 --> 00:30:11,380
Very, very...

499
00:30:11,380 --> 00:30:11,980
Very interesting.

500
00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:13,060
Charismatic.

501
00:30:17,260 --> 00:30:21,200
This is one of the classic healer shops in Nørrebro,

502
00:30:21,380 --> 00:30:23,100
which, funnily enough, has everything you want,

503
00:30:24,540 --> 00:30:26,140
without having to pay for it.

504
00:30:26,140 --> 00:30:28,720
At least not in the official way.

505
00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:30,640
Everything that falls out...

506
00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:32,500
Yes, everything that falls out of the truck,

507
00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:33,920
is funnily enough in there.

508
00:30:36,980 --> 00:30:39,760
And the idea was, of course, to make a film

509
00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:42,840
that was about one night's pressure,

510
00:30:43,540 --> 00:30:44,900
which just kept growing and growing.

511
00:30:45,340 --> 00:30:47,360
I remember that...

512
00:30:48,340 --> 00:30:49,560
I was very...

513
00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:51,120
When I made the first Pusher film,

514
00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:53,280
I was very inspired by it.

515
00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:55,020
It was called Killing of a Chinese Boogie,

516
00:30:55,020 --> 00:30:57,460
which was a John Cassavetes film.

517
00:30:57,600 --> 00:30:58,220
My favorite.

518
00:30:58,720 --> 00:30:59,620
Yes, it's your favorite.

519
00:30:59,680 --> 00:30:59,920
Really.

520
00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:02,420
It's my first fan film.

521
00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:03,600
Yes, it's fantastic.

522
00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:04,360
It's fantastic.

523
00:31:04,620 --> 00:31:05,140
And I remember,

524
00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:08,680
I first saw it on the film school's biography

525
00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:09,620
when I was 18 years old.

526
00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:11,780
And I said,

527
00:31:12,300 --> 00:31:15,060
this is the kind of acting I want in my film.

528
00:31:16,380 --> 00:31:18,960
And then I signed up for the same theater school

529
00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:21,960
that John Cassavetes went to,

530
00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:24,580
called American Academy of Dramatic Arts.

531
00:31:27,300 --> 00:31:32,640
And that was only a year before I was invited back.

532
00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:35,800
But it gave me a very good insight into it all.

533
00:31:36,100 --> 00:31:38,480
But when I was making Pusher 3,

534
00:31:38,580 --> 00:31:40,400
I thought a lot about the inspiration

535
00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:42,900
from Killing of a Chinese Boogie,

536
00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:45,880
with that one night's pressure.

537
00:31:46,620 --> 00:31:47,220
Yes, yes.

538
00:31:47,220 --> 00:31:48,120
You have to come up with money.

539
00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:51,580
And it grows in the film.

540
00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:56,980
And all the decisions become more and more difficult.

541
00:31:57,980 --> 00:31:58,560
It's pressure.

542
00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:04,100
There are a lot of things you lose with subtitles.

543
00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:06,360
It's really good.

544
00:32:06,460 --> 00:32:08,120
All the people are so funny.

545
00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:14,420
It was such a pleasure to make those little jokes myself.

546
00:32:14,420 --> 00:32:16,080
That's the hard part,

547
00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:18,400
when everything has to be written in text.

548
00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:24,740
This was a little later,

549
00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:29,940
when you had to walk up on the street to the others.

550
00:32:30,740 --> 00:32:36,320
It was the only time we did something without a chronology.

551
00:32:37,820 --> 00:32:42,380
And because we were about to prepare something,

552
00:32:45,980 --> 00:32:48,580
my dear instructor, Niels Nørrelev,

553
00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:50,660
who was a film school student,

554
00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:55,560
said, let's make a scene where Milo walks across the street.

555
00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:57,920
And I said, I can't do that.

556
00:32:58,380 --> 00:32:59,940
We have to make a scene inside.

557
00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:01,740
And he said, we're about to prepare,

558
00:33:02,100 --> 00:33:04,200
you can just film him walking across the street.

559
00:33:05,100 --> 00:33:05,600
Okay.

560
00:33:06,100 --> 00:33:09,960
And then you had your jacket on and walked across the street.

561
00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:14,120
And then we had to make the scene behind,

562
00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:15,820
inside the Silvedalbaner club.

563
00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:17,540
I couldn't understand, you had a jacket on.

564
00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:21,620
And then we went back and made the scene anyway.

565
00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:28,080
And I said to Niels, that's why you can't sabotage my chronology.

566
00:33:28,180 --> 00:33:31,700
I don't understand things if it doesn't happen right in front of me.

567
00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:34,380
In the natural development.

568
00:33:35,740 --> 00:33:37,640
So it was a very good learning process.

569
00:33:38,490 --> 00:33:41,540
And it's one of the few times I've tried to do chronology.

570
00:33:44,380 --> 00:33:48,360
With Drive, I did the car chase at the end,

571
00:33:48,500 --> 00:33:52,520
or two of them, because I couldn't do it before.

572
00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:54,100
But it was okay.

573
00:33:54,500 --> 00:33:57,200
But everything else was chronological.

574
00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:02,740
It's nice to have an actor in chronological.

575
00:34:02,740 --> 00:34:08,480
Because you don't build characters in your head,

576
00:34:08,580 --> 00:34:11,140
but you find something, and then it comes.

577
00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:16,060
So here, because the scene starts to take speed,

578
00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:18,380
it comes in the way you play.

579
00:34:19,060 --> 00:34:20,500
You get into it.

580
00:34:20,540 --> 00:34:22,260
In the right way.

581
00:34:26,020 --> 00:34:29,740
I think you have that movie star aura, Slakko.

582
00:34:29,860 --> 00:34:30,060
What?

583
00:34:30,060 --> 00:34:32,540
You have that movie star aura.

584
00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:35,920
You remind me of a classic movie star.

585
00:34:37,180 --> 00:34:42,580
I've always said that you're a reborn Dirk Perser.

586
00:34:43,660 --> 00:34:49,940
And Dirk Perser was probably one of the most versatile

587
00:34:49,940 --> 00:34:54,340
and most talented Danish actors ever.

588
00:34:54,340 --> 00:34:54,460
He had a lot of talent.

589
00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:03,680
But did you ever, when you were young and went to school,

590
00:35:04,180 --> 00:35:06,000
think you would become a movie star?

591
00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:07,400
No.

592
00:35:07,540 --> 00:35:09,220
And make Superman, like you just did?

593
00:35:10,580 --> 00:35:11,680
It was very cool.

594
00:35:12,220 --> 00:35:16,240
But I've seen Dirk Perser in Yugoslavia,

595
00:35:16,620 --> 00:35:18,960
when I was maybe 12 years old.

596
00:35:19,140 --> 00:35:20,720
And I didn't know that I had come to Denmark.

597
00:35:20,720 --> 00:35:21,860
I said, who is that?

598
00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:26,240
I've seen a movie where someone plays a priest on an island

599
00:35:26,240 --> 00:35:29,140
and they rob the Republic of Freedom.

600
00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:30,700
Dirk Perser?

601
00:35:30,860 --> 00:35:31,100
Yes.

602
00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:32,480
Oh, I remember that.

603
00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:33,820
And then he comes out.

604
00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:39,600
And all the women run to him.

605
00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:40,580
That's a Danish movie.

606
00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:41,700
That must be a Danish movie.

607
00:35:42,180 --> 00:35:42,760
It's a Danish movie.

608
00:35:43,380 --> 00:35:44,420
It's very Danish.

609
00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:49,760
But then after 10 years in Denmark,

610
00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:50,980
I thought, there it is.

611
00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:53,060
And that's where Dirk Perser is.

612
00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:56,800
She's good here.

613
00:35:57,420 --> 00:35:58,040
Your daughter.

614
00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:02,220
I think she's a personal trainer now.

615
00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:03,760
A fitness guru.

616
00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:07,680
Liv has actually been down to train with her once.

617
00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:09,360
And she said she was so tough.

618
00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:11,260
No, I can understand that.

619
00:36:11,780 --> 00:36:13,540
And then of course comes the show.

620
00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:16,500
I have to have an example.

621
00:36:16,500 --> 00:36:17,940
A lot of spring rolls.

622
00:36:18,720 --> 00:36:19,180
At home.

623
00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:21,120
Yes, you have to eat them at home.

624
00:36:21,260 --> 00:36:25,540
You have to have them with you, because they are a part of the whole world.

625
00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:27,660
And all these grill bars have disappeared.

626
00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:29,580
They are gone.

627
00:36:31,220 --> 00:36:36,280
In the 80's, it was with Sonja I went every morning.

628
00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:40,900
You could get butter and coffee.

629
00:36:40,900 --> 00:36:47,940
It's from that time. I think it's a Riku or a Starbucks, or whatever it's called.

630
00:36:49,220 --> 00:36:51,460
But it was really super beautiful.

631
00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:57,660
Yes, and it's all that kitsch we call it now.

632
00:36:57,760 --> 00:37:05,040
Yes, but the lights and the colors were very emotional.

633
00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:06,500
Yes, he was good at it.

634
00:37:07,060 --> 00:37:10,940
But it's also the contrast color that I always liked.

635
00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:14,480
And it's Kurt who's got hair on his head now.

636
00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:20,060
He's a drawing in himself.

637
00:37:22,260 --> 00:37:26,260
We meet him in Pusher 2 for a casting.

638
00:37:27,420 --> 00:37:30,020
But here he's a really good actor.

639
00:37:30,020 --> 00:37:34,440
Yes, he's really good. It's a scene where I think of a theater.

640
00:37:34,900 --> 00:37:39,840
There's a nice devil coming and all that light.

641
00:37:40,720 --> 00:37:43,220
He's really funny and in a nice way.

642
00:37:43,460 --> 00:37:47,500
And it's a conversation about Norway and skiing and snow and blah, blah, blah.

643
00:37:48,020 --> 00:37:50,400
And it just runs. Really beautiful.

644
00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:52,440
He says, Art, you have to do something.

645
00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:57,840
Look at him. He's really good.

646
00:37:57,840 --> 00:37:58,980
He looks like a devil.

647
00:37:59,340 --> 00:38:04,420
No, it's not like that. It's more like a baroque painting.

648
00:38:04,740 --> 00:38:08,320
Yes, it's more like that. And then there's the enemy of state.

649
00:38:08,700 --> 00:38:14,920
He looks like an angel, but he's a devil.

650
00:38:18,420 --> 00:38:20,420
But there's something you have to go through here.

651
00:38:21,100 --> 00:38:24,980
It's that pressure not to fall in again.

652
00:38:31,140 --> 00:38:33,780
I think we filmed these movies really fast.

653
00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:39,060
I made them one after the other so I could pay my debt to the bank.

654
00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:42,820
And then it was out of this world.

655
00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:47,480
No, he says.

656
00:38:50,300 --> 00:38:52,640
He's looking good in a nice way.

657
00:38:53,820 --> 00:38:54,400
No.

658
00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:56,800
See you later.

659
00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:01,980
And then there was a man sleeping over there.

660
00:39:02,100 --> 00:39:05,780
It was the classic grill bass guest.

661
00:39:07,820 --> 00:39:09,120
And then here, I can remember.

662
00:39:09,620 --> 00:39:10,620
Good music here at the PDP.

663
00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:13,140
Yes, and it's the first time there's music here.

664
00:39:14,020 --> 00:39:18,140
It's just one of the few, both Pusher 2 and 3, but especially Pusher 3,

665
00:39:18,580 --> 00:39:22,400
that there's a tired PDP that really looks like a composer.

666
00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:27,520
And not so much like, you know,

667
00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:29,960
what do you call it?

668
00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:33,460
Pop musicians? Or punk musicians?

669
00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:36,820
It's very nice.

670
00:39:37,160 --> 00:39:46,040
The dance he did with that screaming sound.

671
00:39:48,150 --> 00:39:54,160
But it's funny how easy it was for us to start filming again,

672
00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:57,920
even though we hadn't done them in a few years.

673
00:39:58,020 --> 00:40:00,180
It was very easy to get into the character.

674
00:40:01,980 --> 00:40:11,860
Also in Pusher 2, where you have a guest starring scene.

675
00:40:13,300 --> 00:40:18,120
Was it hard or easy for you to go back to that character?

676
00:40:18,120 --> 00:40:19,420
No, not at all.

677
00:40:20,620 --> 00:40:24,020
Just because it was a big experience to have a character.

678
00:40:24,820 --> 00:40:26,360
It's not a game you forget.

679
00:40:26,940 --> 00:40:27,220
No, no.

680
00:40:27,500 --> 00:40:30,380
So it was easy enough to go back to it.

681
00:40:31,900 --> 00:40:34,660
And of course, everything had to be totally authentic.

682
00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:38,240
So we had to go through this whole process.

683
00:40:39,040 --> 00:40:40,740
Because that's how it was done.

684
00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:46,020
I had a consultant standing next to me

685
00:40:46,020 --> 00:40:49,860
to make sure that everything was done right.

686
00:40:56,330 --> 00:41:02,960
And that's where Milo makes his second mistake.

687
00:41:03,980 --> 00:41:06,920
First he's dealing with the kids,

688
00:41:07,300 --> 00:41:12,280
and now he's starting to go downhill.

689
00:41:13,420 --> 00:41:16,380
And then he has to pull himself up again.

690
00:41:20,780 --> 00:41:24,720
Was it so hard to play the character all the way through the film?

691
00:41:28,040 --> 00:41:30,880
It was hard to get the right gradation.

692
00:41:31,680 --> 00:41:33,340
Because now you're in a dark arena,

693
00:41:33,740 --> 00:41:37,980
and then you have to get more and more scared.

694
00:41:38,300 --> 00:41:39,840
And it's hard to...

695
00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:43,020
So now you're a totally different type than you used to be.

696
00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:44,280
That was a pretty good change.

697
00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:46,640
You couldn't have done it if you hadn't been a chronologist.

698
00:41:46,640 --> 00:41:48,380
No, that's what I'm trying to say.

699
00:41:48,700 --> 00:41:50,880
If I was going to play the character,

700
00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:52,580
I had to get the speed right first,

701
00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:53,720
and then I had to follow it.

702
00:41:55,360 --> 00:41:57,580
And then we filmed it every day.

703
00:41:57,940 --> 00:41:59,820
And the next day I came and remembered it.

704
00:42:00,380 --> 00:42:04,460
So it was a really nice way to build the character.

705
00:42:12,740 --> 00:42:13,640
Fish flies.

706
00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:16,800
But it was fish flies.

707
00:42:23,080 --> 00:42:25,680
And that's the classic dad problem.

708
00:42:25,840 --> 00:42:27,780
You try to do something to fix the situation,

709
00:42:28,020 --> 00:42:29,320
and still it's wrong.

710
00:42:30,120 --> 00:42:31,520
Now I have kids myself,

711
00:42:31,720 --> 00:42:34,380
so I know that situation a lot of times.

712
00:42:35,060 --> 00:42:38,880
And a lot of times I've stepped out to do the wrong thing.

713
00:42:54,540 --> 00:42:56,260
It's funny to make scenes like this,

714
00:42:56,380 --> 00:42:57,800
where you just tell everyone,

715
00:42:58,300 --> 00:43:05,960
now you're allowed to just start talking and do it.

716
00:43:05,980 --> 00:43:08,400
And then you have to navigate through

717
00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:09,840
who you want to say hi to,

718
00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:11,040
and who you don't want to say hi to.

719
00:43:11,700 --> 00:43:13,960
It was very spontaneous in that way.

720
00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:18,340
I don't know who, but...

721
00:43:21,070 --> 00:43:22,950
He was a nice guy.

722
00:43:23,270 --> 00:43:24,470
He was nice, but he got fired.

723
00:43:25,910 --> 00:43:28,890
But it was meant to give that formality.

724
00:43:29,350 --> 00:43:30,030
No, it wasn't.

725
00:43:33,150 --> 00:43:36,730
It's like people are chosen to be a part of something.

726
00:43:39,690 --> 00:43:41,670
Take a piece without them knowing it.

727
00:43:51,290 --> 00:43:56,850
One of the other films I have from the script today

728
00:43:56,850 --> 00:43:59,610
is about this policeman here.

729
00:44:00,390 --> 00:44:01,910
He was really good.

730
00:44:03,110 --> 00:44:04,670
I don't know if you've met him.

731
00:44:04,730 --> 00:44:05,970
He was insane.

732
00:44:06,610 --> 00:44:08,330
It was his first time?

733
00:44:08,850 --> 00:44:10,410
Yes, almost all of them.

734
00:44:11,610 --> 00:44:15,870
But to make a whole movie about this character,

735
00:44:15,870 --> 00:44:20,870
who was caught between a few different chairs,

736
00:44:22,770 --> 00:44:23,710
if you can call it that.

737
00:44:28,130 --> 00:44:29,930
It was the classic,

738
00:44:30,450 --> 00:44:32,650
and you know that yourself,

739
00:44:32,790 --> 00:44:34,770
even though it's your birthday,

740
00:44:35,270 --> 00:44:36,510
you're always at work.

741
00:44:38,150 --> 00:44:39,290
And here it is.

742
00:44:40,390 --> 00:44:42,030
What are we talking about now?

743
00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:49,040
It was also meant to give that...

744
00:44:51,771 --> 00:44:54,860
dilemma, which Mikkel digs into more and more.

745
00:44:56,440 --> 00:44:58,740
He's trying to get back into the fight,

746
00:44:59,060 --> 00:45:00,140
but he's just up against it.

747
00:45:01,280 --> 00:45:04,260
We made the idea that when you look at yourself in the mirror,

748
00:45:05,140 --> 00:45:09,660
it's like you're trying to realize

749
00:45:09,660 --> 00:45:11,920
that it's cracking you up.

750
00:45:12,660 --> 00:45:17,480
It's like you're using it as a motive.

751
00:45:18,200 --> 00:45:19,960
You're playing with the colors,

752
00:45:20,520 --> 00:45:21,780
with the green, the spectacles,

753
00:45:21,860 --> 00:45:26,060
and here it's like,

754
00:45:26,260 --> 00:45:27,060
now I'm strong,

755
00:45:27,520 --> 00:45:28,920
and it's a great movie.

756
00:45:31,220 --> 00:45:33,400
Now he has to show who he is.

757
00:45:38,080 --> 00:45:39,840
And it's a classic,

758
00:45:40,140 --> 00:45:41,600
when you're writing great stories,

759
00:45:41,880 --> 00:45:44,020
you just have to think of your own family.

760
00:45:50,320 --> 00:45:51,640
She's really good here.

761
00:45:56,780 --> 00:45:59,940
It was also to get that point,

762
00:46:00,620 --> 00:46:01,940
as I should say in the movie,

763
00:46:01,940 --> 00:46:06,880
that it's easy to make a fool out of yourself,

764
00:46:06,900 --> 00:46:10,660
or how to put it,

765
00:46:10,660 --> 00:46:12,180
in these situations.

766
00:46:17,240 --> 00:46:19,280
Lino is thinking, what am I doing here?

767
00:46:20,100 --> 00:46:21,200
What did I get myself into?

768
00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:30,780
And of course it's not a two-ticket to South America.

769
00:46:33,300 --> 00:46:34,420
First class.

770
00:46:38,690 --> 00:46:45,800
It could be fun to make a new movie about the middle character.

771
00:46:46,240 --> 00:46:47,240
Right now.

772
00:46:48,420 --> 00:46:52,320
Because we end up in the way we do in the third movie.

773
00:46:53,080 --> 00:46:57,940
There's actually an opportunity to make a...

774
00:46:58,760 --> 00:47:02,940
I think that's what Netflix was hoping for with Copenhagen Cowboy.

775
00:47:03,620 --> 00:47:06,020
But there's the middle character,

776
00:47:06,940 --> 00:47:09,100
who has come out of it all,

777
00:47:09,180 --> 00:47:15,860
and has developed as an advocate now.

778
00:47:16,820 --> 00:47:20,180
So the idea was that the middle character had developed.

779
00:47:20,520 --> 00:47:24,300
But we actually ended up in...

780
00:47:24,300 --> 00:47:26,680
I remember we talked about it.

781
00:47:26,680 --> 00:47:29,900
We didn't know where the ending was.

782
00:47:30,220 --> 00:47:33,840
The ending scene was sent to you.

783
00:47:38,560 --> 00:47:39,600
He's got two.

784
00:47:39,980 --> 00:47:41,040
Here comes the gift.

785
00:47:56,680 --> 00:47:57,040
It's funny.

786
00:47:59,460 --> 00:48:01,060
When we made the movie,

787
00:48:01,760 --> 00:48:04,380
it was before the pandemic,

788
00:48:04,600 --> 00:48:07,460
and before the internet.

789
00:48:08,480 --> 00:48:10,680
It was a completely different time,

790
00:48:10,720 --> 00:48:13,340
I think, when we made the movie,

791
00:48:13,800 --> 00:48:15,640
than when we make movies nowadays.

792
00:48:19,000 --> 00:48:21,820
It's nostalgic when I look at it.

793
00:48:26,650 --> 00:48:27,870
When she turns 25.

794
00:48:35,520 --> 00:48:37,340
Then this scene came,

795
00:48:37,420 --> 00:48:38,200
which we redid.

796
00:48:39,340 --> 00:48:41,180
When we made it the first time,

797
00:48:41,320 --> 00:48:42,460
it had a long coat on.

798
00:48:43,420 --> 00:48:47,800
It was a good idea.

799
00:48:47,860 --> 00:48:50,520
It was the biggest mistake.

800
00:48:51,880 --> 00:48:54,220
Now it's 5 o'clock in the morning.

801
00:48:55,680 --> 00:48:56,500
We made it, right?

802
00:48:57,720 --> 00:48:57,960
Yes.

803
00:49:00,960 --> 00:49:02,600
It looked so weird.

804
00:49:02,840 --> 00:49:05,320
First I made the scene with the coat on.

805
00:49:05,700 --> 00:49:06,900
It looked so weird.

806
00:49:07,140 --> 00:49:08,840
Then we redid the scene with the coat on.

807
00:49:09,560 --> 00:49:13,540
Then I redid the scene with the coat on.

808
00:49:14,240 --> 00:49:17,760
It's because you've lost your status.

809
00:49:18,460 --> 00:49:21,020
It was wrong to have a coat on.

810
00:49:21,060 --> 00:49:22,080
The coat was wrong.

811
00:49:22,340 --> 00:49:27,660
Now I'm really angry with myself.

812
00:49:28,180 --> 00:49:30,940
The whole scene is that I've lost my status.

813
00:49:31,920 --> 00:49:33,800
The coat is going out first.

814
00:49:36,640 --> 00:49:37,980
The coat is going out first.

815
00:49:45,280 --> 00:49:47,140
Then they switch.

816
00:49:49,540 --> 00:49:51,340
You'll get 5000 kroner.

817
00:50:04,480 --> 00:50:19,220
It's a bit strange, but it's going to be a lot of fun.

818
00:50:19,880 --> 00:50:25,860
I think it's going to be a lot of fun.

819
00:50:27,800 --> 00:50:35,000
There are some things in your life that change everything around you.

820
00:50:37,440 --> 00:50:40,080
I made Pusher 1 as a short film.

821
00:50:41,920 --> 00:50:43,020
On TV Stop.

822
00:50:43,240 --> 00:50:45,280
Yes, you have to be in the lead role on TV Stop.

823
00:50:45,280 --> 00:50:47,220
You run around with a gun.

824
00:50:47,220 --> 00:50:49,020
And no one will see you.

825
00:50:50,360 --> 00:50:51,940
But that's probably also very good.

826
00:50:54,500 --> 00:50:56,720
But think about that TV stop.

827
00:50:57,860 --> 00:50:58,440
Yes.

828
00:50:59,740 --> 00:51:01,100
But that was back then.

829
00:51:01,420 --> 00:51:03,320
That was so many years ago.

830
00:51:06,660 --> 00:51:09,640
We were all so much younger.

831
00:51:13,260 --> 00:51:18,160
And now Milo is in that understatement.

832
00:51:18,540 --> 00:51:18,740
Yes.

833
00:51:19,760 --> 00:51:21,320
And he suddenly has to work for them.

834
00:51:21,640 --> 00:51:22,480
And that was not easy.

835
00:51:23,200 --> 00:51:25,896
And then there was that aura around him.

836
00:51:28,800 --> 00:51:30,540
His castle here.

837
00:51:30,680 --> 00:51:32,620
His gangster club.

838
00:51:32,680 --> 00:51:34,700
It's like everything is just dead.

839
00:51:34,700 --> 00:51:39,280
There is no life left in it.

840
00:51:52,740 --> 00:51:54,660
But is it difficult to play something like that?

841
00:51:55,400 --> 00:52:00,360
Is it fun to play that kind of character?

842
00:52:01,920 --> 00:52:03,280
You have played everything.

843
00:52:03,360 --> 00:52:03,900
You have done everything.

844
00:52:04,880 --> 00:52:07,720
It is difficult.

845
00:52:08,220 --> 00:52:12,600
But I have had experience with the heroine.

846
00:52:12,940 --> 00:52:15,680
So I play it realistically.

847
00:52:15,680 --> 00:52:16,480
So you want to play the heroine.

848
00:52:16,480 --> 00:52:16,940
So you know what to do.

849
00:52:16,960 --> 00:52:18,360
So I know what to do.

850
00:52:18,760 --> 00:52:21,640
So it was a part of making it even more realistic.

851
00:52:23,700 --> 00:52:27,320
So I tried to make it realistic.

852
00:52:27,820 --> 00:52:29,500
And I think it worked.

853
00:52:32,800 --> 00:52:37,760
Who is the actor who plays Born to be Wild?

854
00:52:38,720 --> 00:52:39,100
Who?

855
00:52:40,560 --> 00:52:41,880
Born to be Wild.

856
00:52:41,980 --> 00:52:42,960
No, Born to be Wild.

857
00:52:42,960 --> 00:52:44,240
Dennis Hopper?

858
00:52:44,720 --> 00:52:46,060
No, that American.

859
00:52:46,700 --> 00:52:47,260
Peter Fonda?

860
00:52:47,640 --> 00:52:48,620
No, no.

861
00:52:52,960 --> 00:52:54,900
Born Child Killer.

862
00:52:55,900 --> 00:52:56,880
That's fine.

863
00:53:05,910 --> 00:53:10,010
So I was at a festival and was impressed by that scene.

864
00:53:11,570 --> 00:53:13,370
You mean Woody Harrelson?

865
00:53:13,470 --> 00:53:14,630
No, Woody Harrelson.

866
00:53:18,070 --> 00:53:19,630
Natural Born Killers.

867
00:53:20,130 --> 00:53:21,930
Oliver Stone?

868
00:53:22,530 --> 00:53:23,590
Tommy Lee Jones?

869
00:53:23,750 --> 00:53:24,070
No.

870
00:53:25,790 --> 00:53:27,510
I don't know if he is in the movie.

871
00:53:28,570 --> 00:53:30,450
So he is not in the movie.

872
00:53:30,970 --> 00:53:32,170
I sent him a text message.

873
00:53:32,390 --> 00:53:32,770
I don't remember.

874
00:53:38,360 --> 00:53:40,140
Now the cards have turned.

875
00:53:41,900 --> 00:53:43,460
He plays it really well.

876
00:53:44,340 --> 00:53:45,740
He really enjoys it.

877
00:53:45,740 --> 00:53:46,440
The status.

878
00:53:47,440 --> 00:53:48,860
He really enjoys the power.

879
00:53:52,380 --> 00:53:54,740
It was a...

880
00:54:02,240 --> 00:54:03,220
And Marek?

881
00:54:03,780 --> 00:54:04,180
Yes.

882
00:54:05,210 --> 00:54:06,800
He was really...

883
00:54:06,800 --> 00:54:11,160
He is Polish.

884
00:54:11,400 --> 00:54:13,020
And he is Goyle.

885
00:54:13,020 --> 00:54:16,560
And he has fantastic physique.

886
00:54:16,860 --> 00:54:20,020
Because he could hang upside down for half an hour.

887
00:54:20,380 --> 00:54:22,080
And nice men.

888
00:54:22,360 --> 00:54:23,640
Really disciplined.

889
00:54:26,160 --> 00:54:28,060
And not what he plays.

890
00:54:28,180 --> 00:54:28,900
But he is really good.

891
00:54:29,120 --> 00:54:30,980
He is a vegan.

892
00:54:32,780 --> 00:54:34,620
He is the longest you can be.

893
00:54:34,620 --> 00:54:36,160
In that way he plays really well.

894
00:54:36,440 --> 00:54:37,260
He is a real actor.

895
00:54:38,620 --> 00:54:40,040
One of the reasons he got the part.

896
00:54:40,120 --> 00:54:42,200
Was because he could hang upside down for half an hour.

897
00:54:42,520 --> 00:54:44,900
And you had to do that at some point.

898
00:54:46,140 --> 00:54:47,240
And he plays well.

899
00:54:47,240 --> 00:54:48,360
He has a sense for it.

900
00:54:49,280 --> 00:54:53,200
He is not a macho idiot.

901
00:54:59,280 --> 00:55:01,120
He really enjoys his power.

902
00:55:01,820 --> 00:55:03,300
And that part of the movie.

903
00:55:04,380 --> 00:55:04,820
For me.

904
00:55:04,820 --> 00:55:08,040
That was the hardest part.

905
00:55:08,600 --> 00:55:10,140
To get that part.

906
00:55:10,900 --> 00:55:11,720
As a poet.

907
00:55:12,020 --> 00:55:14,080
You have to take care of that feeling.

908
00:55:14,360 --> 00:55:15,520
But also for me.

909
00:55:16,240 --> 00:55:17,560
It was really...

910
00:55:17,560 --> 00:55:19,640
Because the part.

911
00:55:20,580 --> 00:55:22,040
He was really disciplined.

912
00:55:22,560 --> 00:55:24,140
And he was...

913
00:55:24,140 --> 00:55:25,820
It was literally...

914
00:55:28,020 --> 00:55:30,640
And I also got a lot of thoughts.

915
00:55:30,820 --> 00:55:31,980
About my children.

916
00:55:34,060 --> 00:55:35,720
So that part.

917
00:55:36,240 --> 00:55:36,960
For me.

918
00:55:37,160 --> 00:55:39,000
Was the most personal part.

919
00:55:40,180 --> 00:55:40,780
Yes.

920
00:55:40,780 --> 00:55:42,260
But you can feel that.

921
00:55:42,780 --> 00:55:45,400
That it goes beyond your moral limits.

922
00:55:51,100 --> 00:55:53,420
And Dan pushes and pushes more and more.

923
00:55:53,440 --> 00:55:54,320
Yes, he just keeps going.

924
00:55:56,280 --> 00:55:58,160
And it's down to the costumes.

925
00:55:58,880 --> 00:56:00,460
That are authentic.

926
00:56:06,920 --> 00:56:08,340
And you can say.

927
00:56:08,420 --> 00:56:09,120
It was also about.

928
00:56:09,660 --> 00:56:11,020
To give all those.

929
00:56:11,480 --> 00:56:13,800
Both Frank and Tony.

930
00:56:14,660 --> 00:56:15,420
And Milo.

931
00:56:16,100 --> 00:56:18,020
The point was.

932
00:56:18,200 --> 00:56:19,520
To give them something.

933
00:56:20,040 --> 00:56:21,780
Something human.

934
00:56:22,280 --> 00:56:24,180
That they are confronted with.

935
00:56:24,480 --> 00:56:25,080
In every way.

936
00:56:25,100 --> 00:56:26,220
And it started to push.

937
00:56:26,520 --> 00:56:27,540
Because it changes.

938
00:56:27,940 --> 00:56:28,540
Suddenly.

939
00:56:31,700 --> 00:56:32,900
The relationship.

940
00:56:32,900 --> 00:56:35,400
Between Kim.

941
00:56:35,960 --> 00:56:36,840
And Vick.

942
00:56:37,140 --> 00:56:38,140
The emptiness.

943
00:56:39,760 --> 00:56:42,000
Without physical contact.

944
00:56:42,380 --> 00:56:44,040
So it becomes more and more.

945
00:56:44,360 --> 00:56:46,000
The film changes so much.

946
00:56:46,240 --> 00:56:47,560
And that was very chronological.

947
00:56:47,800 --> 00:56:48,560
In the first year.

948
00:56:48,740 --> 00:56:51,680
And then it glides away.

949
00:56:52,100 --> 00:56:53,280
From what you think.

950
00:56:53,420 --> 00:56:54,220
Of a gangster movie.

951
00:56:55,180 --> 00:56:57,280
That gangster fascination.

952
00:56:57,600 --> 00:56:58,720
And then we have.

953
00:56:58,900 --> 00:56:59,740
Keir Linde.

954
00:57:00,960 --> 00:57:03,180
Who later became.

955
00:57:04,560 --> 00:57:06,400
A big reality star.

956
00:57:06,600 --> 00:57:09,160
I think the biggest reality star.

957
00:57:09,380 --> 00:57:10,520
In Danish history.

958
00:57:10,860 --> 00:57:12,540
And very well deserved.

959
00:57:14,720 --> 00:57:17,280
But he made a really nice character.

960
00:57:17,600 --> 00:57:17,700
Yes.

961
00:57:18,440 --> 00:57:19,340
The one.

962
00:57:19,840 --> 00:57:20,600
Yes, yes, yes.

963
00:57:23,500 --> 00:57:25,320
But that was again.

964
00:57:25,500 --> 00:57:27,140
I think there are so many different.

965
00:57:27,140 --> 00:57:28,300
Languages ​​in the film.

966
00:57:29,300 --> 00:57:30,580
All the.

967
00:57:32,120 --> 00:57:32,920
Dialects.

968
00:57:34,300 --> 00:57:36,060
And then we have.

969
00:57:36,940 --> 00:57:39,060
Various Arabic dialects.

970
00:57:39,700 --> 00:57:41,380
And Persian dialects.

971
00:57:41,720 --> 00:57:42,900
And Polish.

972
00:57:43,340 --> 00:57:44,100
And a little English.

973
00:57:44,780 --> 00:57:46,720
It's almost the least of it.

974
00:57:46,760 --> 00:57:47,820
It's Danish reality.

975
00:57:49,080 --> 00:57:50,500
I think it's great.

976
00:57:50,820 --> 00:57:53,900
And even though I knew what they said.

977
00:57:54,000 --> 00:57:54,820
Because it was in the script.

978
00:57:55,580 --> 00:57:56,940
Then it was still something new.

979
00:57:57,660 --> 00:57:57,760
To have to.

980
00:57:58,380 --> 00:58:00,160
Instruct it in another language.

981
00:58:00,520 --> 00:58:01,700
Which I did not know myself.

982
00:58:02,420 --> 00:58:03,600
I think it was pretty funny.

983
00:58:04,940 --> 00:58:05,780
Because you grip.

984
00:58:05,920 --> 00:58:07,140
In another way.

985
00:58:14,820 --> 00:58:15,520
That's what he says.

986
00:58:15,580 --> 00:58:16,480
She has a birthday today.

987
00:58:16,740 --> 00:58:17,060
Yes, yes.

988
00:58:17,060 --> 00:58:17,160
Yes.

989
00:58:18,260 --> 00:58:19,600
Just how much it can really go.

990
00:58:19,960 --> 00:58:20,100
Yes.

991
00:58:21,140 --> 00:58:21,820
It's a sport.

992
00:58:25,320 --> 00:58:26,300
And you just know.

993
00:58:26,660 --> 00:58:27,840
It's going to be serious.

994
00:58:28,300 --> 00:58:30,200
And then the girl gets more and more.

995
00:58:30,860 --> 00:58:31,120
Objects.

996
00:58:31,200 --> 00:58:31,600
Yes.

997
00:58:41,860 --> 00:58:42,580
It's a lot of fun.

998
00:58:47,410 --> 00:58:48,590
Yes, she was pretty cool.

999
00:58:48,710 --> 00:58:49,470
She was really cool.

1000
00:58:51,630 --> 00:58:52,430
But also.

1001
00:58:52,590 --> 00:58:53,330
I have to say.

1002
00:58:53,890 --> 00:58:55,330
I can't remember her name.

1003
00:58:56,830 --> 00:58:58,170
She was from Lithuania.

1004
00:58:59,170 --> 00:58:59,770
Yes.

1005
00:59:00,210 --> 00:59:00,970
She was really cool.

1006
00:59:02,670 --> 00:59:03,410
And easy work.

1007
00:59:04,330 --> 00:59:05,210
But it was again.

1008
00:59:06,430 --> 00:59:08,110
The whole basis was.

1009
00:59:08,230 --> 00:59:10,050
To discover talent.

1010
00:59:11,410 --> 00:59:12,450
And work with.

1011
00:59:12,910 --> 00:59:13,930
The unknown.

1012
00:59:14,210 --> 00:59:15,450
Or what was not formed.

1013
00:59:16,010 --> 00:59:17,710
And it could be too difficult for her.

1014
00:59:17,990 --> 00:59:18,850
But the mood was.

1015
00:59:18,850 --> 00:59:21,330
When the camera was stopped.

1016
00:59:21,650 --> 00:59:22,790
We were both very sad.

1017
00:59:24,630 --> 00:59:26,430
It's also important in situations like this.

1018
00:59:26,570 --> 00:59:27,450
That there is a little bit.

1019
00:59:27,670 --> 00:59:28,990
Because it's very violent.

1020
00:59:29,250 --> 00:59:30,750
Yes, because there is a risk.

1021
00:59:37,350 --> 00:59:38,670
You can feel it.

1022
00:59:39,410 --> 00:59:40,570
It's burning in you.

1023
00:59:41,010 --> 00:59:41,530
Soon.

1024
00:59:42,370 --> 00:59:44,271
Now the hammer is coming soon.

1025
00:59:45,170 --> 00:59:47,646
I remember when he was so...

1026
00:59:47,646 --> 00:59:50,771
sad, and she said.

1027
00:59:51,210 --> 00:59:52,390
"I love fucking".

1028
00:59:52,570 --> 00:59:54,854
Yes, it was.

1029
01:00:02,730 --> 01:00:03,410
Businessman.

1030
01:00:05,170 --> 01:00:06,310
"What's the problem?"

1031
01:00:06,970 --> 01:00:08,130
It's a business.

1032
01:00:18,060 --> 01:00:22,180
And to me, this was also a story, I had heard some of it,

1033
01:00:22,580 --> 01:00:26,160
and had been told.

1034
01:00:27,580 --> 01:00:32,600
And it was also that I stood for reality in that way.

1035
01:00:33,500 --> 01:00:38,480
For me, I have seen the picture at the beginning of the Slavic war,

1036
01:00:38,720 --> 01:00:41,980
and I have seen, that was the most I thought about.

1037
01:00:41,980 --> 01:00:45,980
It was the first time I could see that there was a war,

1038
01:00:46,400 --> 01:00:51,580
that we were in Vinkovci, at the station, waiting for the next train,

1039
01:00:51,960 --> 01:00:55,340
and some soldiers from the Croatian Guard,

1040
01:00:55,540 --> 01:00:58,260
so they came, the young ones, with machine guns,

1041
01:00:58,680 --> 01:01:03,080
and they went in the car, and we waited, and they came with two Ukrainian girls,

1042
01:01:03,280 --> 01:01:06,300
in the toilet, and there were six in the toilet,

1043
01:01:06,300 --> 01:01:10,480
and it was so cool, and it was such a picture,

1044
01:01:10,840 --> 01:01:11,700
of war.

1045
01:01:12,800 --> 01:01:17,300
For me, it was not the bomb, but it was, I thought,

1046
01:01:17,440 --> 01:01:17,960
of war.

1047
01:01:18,660 --> 01:01:22,060
And people are looking at it, and they have the power,

1048
01:01:23,480 --> 01:01:24,860
to be able to do that.

1049
01:01:26,220 --> 01:01:29,140
It's that inhumanity, you do to each other.

1050
01:01:29,660 --> 01:01:33,060
And that was what I thought could be interesting,

1051
01:01:33,060 --> 01:01:35,280
if Milo, like, goes up with all that,

1052
01:01:36,600 --> 01:01:39,580
evilness, which is there, everything is so,

1053
01:01:41,080 --> 01:01:43,200
it's really just something, that needs to be crushed.

1054
01:01:45,640 --> 01:01:46,880
It was also that,

1055
01:01:48,720 --> 01:01:51,780
or Drive, who also gave us, Ryan Gosling, a hammer,

1056
01:01:52,640 --> 01:01:54,520
just like you have a hammer here, right?

1057
01:01:55,100 --> 01:01:58,140
It's something very violent, like a motile, a hammer.

1058
01:02:00,520 --> 01:02:02,300
So it was a depression, Milo.

1059
01:02:02,480 --> 01:02:02,600
Yes.

1060
01:02:04,120 --> 01:02:05,720
Now they have to have some food.

1061
01:02:07,440 --> 01:02:09,800
And you just wait, when he does something.

1062
01:02:11,000 --> 01:02:12,420
You just sit and wait.

1063
01:02:17,580 --> 01:02:20,300
Also because when you make so much,

1064
01:02:20,820 --> 01:02:22,480
minimal, then you are so dependent,

1065
01:02:22,620 --> 01:02:23,660
on acting.

1066
01:02:24,180 --> 01:02:25,900
It's all about,

1067
01:02:28,440 --> 01:02:30,560
as usual, that ...

1068
01:02:30,560 --> 01:02:32,640
Well, there are many films,

1069
01:02:32,720 --> 01:02:34,880
we arrange it in the editing room.

1070
01:02:36,700 --> 01:02:37,940
We didn't do it here.

1071
01:02:38,360 --> 01:02:39,380
It was arranged in the editing room.

1072
01:02:41,480 --> 01:02:43,380
He was strong, I can't remember his name.

1073
01:02:43,720 --> 01:02:43,820
Peter.

1074
01:02:44,600 --> 01:02:47,280
Yes, he was Peter, he was strong.

1075
01:02:47,300 --> 01:02:48,760
I had contact with him.

1076
01:02:48,780 --> 01:02:49,080
Did you die?

1077
01:02:49,540 --> 01:02:54,200
Yes, he was the boss in the circus,

1078
01:02:55,700 --> 01:02:58,180
or the artist, not the actor,

1079
01:02:58,180 --> 01:02:59,780
but the artist.

1080
01:03:00,560 --> 01:03:01,220
Ah, okay.

1081
01:03:02,360 --> 01:03:03,960
You know, a band.

1082
01:03:04,880 --> 01:03:05,480
Telepathy.

1083
01:03:05,820 --> 01:03:08,440
So he came, we went on tour,

1084
01:03:08,740 --> 01:03:10,320
and he played that music.

1085
01:03:10,500 --> 01:03:11,720
I can't play it.

1086
01:03:12,860 --> 01:03:14,280
In Silkeborg, I'm sorry.

1087
01:03:15,620 --> 01:03:16,900
You went to Silkeborg.

1088
01:03:16,900 --> 01:03:17,960
We went to Maastricht,

1089
01:03:18,080 --> 01:03:19,100
and he played it.

1090
01:03:19,400 --> 01:03:22,560
I thought, why?

1091
01:03:22,880 --> 01:03:24,000
It was pop music.

1092
01:03:24,000 --> 01:03:24,860
Okay, okay.

1093
01:03:29,980 --> 01:03:32,060
So there's a father and a daughter here.

1094
01:03:36,940 --> 01:03:39,440
If it's not the one who presses him,

1095
01:03:39,520 --> 01:03:40,780
it's the other who presses him.

1096
01:03:41,060 --> 01:03:43,300
Yes, but it's a big scene.

1097
01:03:48,920 --> 01:03:52,940
It's the most important scene between us two.

1098
01:03:53,500 --> 01:03:54,680
Because it suddenly changes,

1099
01:03:54,680 --> 01:03:58,260
and he can see that the one he was hoping for,

1100
01:03:58,400 --> 01:03:59,880
it's the one who presses him.

1101
01:04:00,040 --> 01:04:01,860
Because he talks, but he's not the one.

1102
01:04:02,120 --> 01:04:03,380
Also because in reality,

1103
01:04:03,640 --> 01:04:04,220
everyone is cheating,

1104
01:04:04,560 --> 01:04:07,980
and now she's also cheating on her father.

1105
01:04:08,600 --> 01:04:10,440
She's negotiating with her father,

1106
01:04:11,160 --> 01:04:13,620
because he's in a difficult situation.

1107
01:04:14,680 --> 01:04:16,680
She senses that something is wrong.

1108
01:04:16,680 --> 01:04:16,980
It's a difficult thing.

1109
01:04:21,320 --> 01:04:23,760
When you try...

1110
01:04:24,640 --> 01:04:26,220
You just try to do it well.

1111
01:04:28,040 --> 01:04:29,640
And then, pop.

1112
01:04:30,040 --> 01:04:32,200
There's some gong.

1113
01:04:32,760 --> 01:04:32,940
Doom.

1114
01:04:35,880 --> 01:04:37,740
I thought, come free.

1115
01:04:39,260 --> 01:04:41,780
What language do you like to play in?

1116
01:04:41,840 --> 01:04:44,180
Danish, English, or Croatian?

1117
01:04:44,180 --> 01:04:45,480
It depends.

1118
01:04:45,920 --> 01:04:47,620
With whom, yes.

1119
01:04:54,540 --> 01:04:58,540
Was it difficult for you to find work after Pusher 3?

1120
01:04:59,720 --> 01:05:03,700
I was completely blacklisted in Denmark.

1121
01:05:04,000 --> 01:05:04,760
Absolutely.

1122
01:05:05,300 --> 01:05:08,960
So I had problems with survival.

1123
01:05:09,440 --> 01:05:10,700
I didn't have a job.

1124
01:05:12,360 --> 01:05:17,700
And then I got an invitation from Hollywood.

1125
01:05:18,640 --> 01:05:20,180
From the brother in America.

1126
01:05:20,880 --> 01:05:23,120
And besides that, I don't know what.

1127
01:05:23,320 --> 01:05:24,240
I had a family.

1128
01:05:25,140 --> 01:05:26,800
Dragan flew here.

1129
01:05:27,680 --> 01:05:29,980
He came with a service pass.

1130
01:05:30,960 --> 01:05:32,280
And I was lucky.

1131
01:05:33,660 --> 01:05:35,380
I didn't have to pay rent.

1132
01:05:36,660 --> 01:05:40,320
And then in 2012,

1133
01:05:40,320 --> 01:05:42,140
you're like, wow.

1134
01:05:43,580 --> 01:05:47,920
But sometimes you're forced to go abroad.

1135
01:05:48,080 --> 01:05:49,340
It's the same with Mads Mikkelsen.

1136
01:05:50,000 --> 01:05:50,780
He's kind of like that.

1137
01:05:52,420 --> 01:05:59,400
Even though it was much more exciting to play in Denmark.

1138
01:05:59,520 --> 01:06:01,120
That was the sweat of the game.

1139
01:06:09,260 --> 01:06:10,860
It shifted there.

1140
01:06:10,960 --> 01:06:11,560
Yes, it shifted.

1141
01:06:17,400 --> 01:06:19,680
It's not like a gangster movie.

1142
01:06:20,540 --> 01:06:21,820
It's a family drama.

1143
01:06:22,220 --> 01:06:22,960
It's a family drama.

1144
01:06:24,760 --> 01:06:29,080
And he tried to get in touch with her.

1145
01:06:29,080 --> 01:06:30,660
But it didn't go so well.

1146
01:06:30,840 --> 01:06:32,600
She made a better deal.

1147
01:06:32,800 --> 01:06:34,440
When she should be home in the evening.

1148
01:06:35,740 --> 01:06:37,640
It's not Bertel Brecht.

1149
01:06:39,380 --> 01:06:42,740
But it's also the anger that goes down.

1150
01:06:43,140 --> 01:06:45,020
And everything else.

1151
01:06:45,140 --> 01:06:46,040
And now everything is fine.

1152
01:06:46,640 --> 01:06:47,820
Now we're all friends again.

1153
01:06:48,760 --> 01:06:50,360
Now we have business.

1154
01:06:51,220 --> 01:06:53,160
When there's business, everyone is happy.

1155
01:06:54,440 --> 01:06:55,540
It's really tough.

1156
01:06:57,500 --> 01:07:01,720
And it's to show that we're all on the same page.

1157
01:07:09,560 --> 01:07:12,440
And it's about how you become more and more equal.

1158
01:07:13,600 --> 01:07:16,480
At first, it's a bit like that.

1159
01:07:16,780 --> 01:07:19,540
And then you just become more and more equal.

1160
01:07:25,470 --> 01:07:26,810
That was pretty good.

1161
01:07:26,810 --> 01:07:30,490
And now I'm smiling in front of the radio.

1162
01:07:31,470 --> 01:07:32,690
Now I'm happy.

1163
01:07:33,350 --> 01:07:34,910
Now it doesn't matter.

1164
01:07:45,930 --> 01:07:47,930
He was so strong.

1165
01:07:48,290 --> 01:07:49,190
He was good.

1166
01:07:50,370 --> 01:07:52,290
He plays well in Copenhagen.

1167
01:07:52,730 --> 01:07:53,450
Wow.

1168
01:07:53,810 --> 01:07:54,450
He really is.

1169
01:07:54,910 --> 01:07:56,910
And that scene with Zwirsen.

1170
01:07:58,130 --> 01:07:59,750
Suddenly they started dancing.

1171
01:07:59,750 --> 01:08:00,750
Yes, yes, yes.

1172
01:08:00,830 --> 01:08:01,370
Really.

1173
01:08:08,070 --> 01:08:13,810
She doesn't get to eat anymore.

1174
01:08:17,550 --> 01:08:21,010
It was so sad.

1175
01:08:22,860 --> 01:08:25,310
It's nice when you...

1176
01:08:25,310 --> 01:08:27,070
When we...

1177
01:08:27,070 --> 01:08:29,310
When we had a break every time,

1178
01:08:29,450 --> 01:08:31,730
then you could at least have a little fun

1179
01:08:31,730 --> 01:08:33,030
and talk about something else,

1180
01:08:33,110 --> 01:08:34,530
and then go back in and do this.

1181
01:08:35,210 --> 01:08:36,850
I also think it's very violent to do

1182
01:08:36,850 --> 01:08:40,010
such emotional, cool things.

1183
01:08:40,290 --> 01:08:40,890
I think so too.

1184
01:08:41,830 --> 01:08:44,490
It's never really...

1185
01:08:44,490 --> 01:08:47,750
It affects me a lot.

1186
01:08:48,190 --> 01:08:48,310
No.

1187
01:08:51,310 --> 01:09:00,850
You were so sad that time.

1188
01:09:04,330 --> 01:09:07,110
Then he got mad.

1189
01:09:16,290 --> 01:09:18,130
Now you have to do something.

1190
01:09:20,130 --> 01:09:21,110
You know those...

1191
01:09:21,590 --> 01:09:22,130
What are they called?

1192
01:09:23,310 --> 01:09:24,110
The ones that hang down?

1193
01:09:24,990 --> 01:09:25,910
Yes, that's it.

1194
01:09:26,490 --> 01:09:28,870
They're so annoying to the camera and the sound.

1195
01:09:28,870 --> 01:09:30,390
The sound is much more...

1196
01:09:33,430 --> 01:09:34,710
But they're good.

1197
01:09:34,950 --> 01:09:35,770
They look really good.

1198
01:09:35,930 --> 01:09:36,530
Mona Lisa.

1199
01:09:36,910 --> 01:09:38,850
Yes, we should have listened to it.

1200
01:09:39,190 --> 01:09:40,230
I was crazy.

1201
01:09:41,570 --> 01:09:42,250
But it wasn't Kim.

1202
01:09:42,370 --> 01:09:43,590
And then, at the end here,

1203
01:09:45,650 --> 01:09:46,590
he's just happy.

1204
01:09:47,090 --> 01:09:48,350
Yes, so now it's over.

1205
01:09:48,510 --> 01:09:49,330
Now he's upset.

1206
01:09:51,410 --> 01:09:52,610
They'll just stay here.

1207
01:09:54,130 --> 01:10:02,680
I'll be back when...

1208
01:10:10,230 --> 01:10:12,510
So, Polish heroine.

1209
01:10:14,130 --> 01:10:15,810
Polish heroine.

1210
01:10:17,890 --> 01:10:21,390
With this joke, I actually speak Polish.

1211
01:10:22,090 --> 01:10:22,850
Yes, well, okay.

1212
01:10:25,270 --> 01:10:28,370
I hung out in Poland for half a year.

1213
01:10:34,410 --> 01:10:36,610
What do you think of...

1214
01:10:38,930 --> 01:10:41,590
What do you think of the background to these movies?

1215
01:10:43,650 --> 01:10:45,490
Because it's like a...

1216
01:10:46,490 --> 01:10:48,610
X number of years in our...

1217
01:10:49,530 --> 01:10:52,830
We were all on the younger side.

1218
01:10:55,730 --> 01:10:57,890
We were such a small group, really.

1219
01:10:59,830 --> 01:11:01,370
We were such a small band.

1220
01:11:02,390 --> 01:11:02,950
With Peter Peter.

1221
01:11:02,950 --> 01:11:03,550
Yes, yes.

1222
01:11:04,490 --> 01:11:06,430
Peter Peter and music.

1223
01:11:06,690 --> 01:11:07,670
It was the same, in a way.

1224
01:11:09,890 --> 01:11:12,550
I really got close to him.

1225
01:11:13,070 --> 01:11:15,150
I remember that many times,

1226
01:11:15,570 --> 01:11:18,590
I sat up next to Peter Peter,

1227
01:11:18,730 --> 01:11:19,990
and we watched movies.

1228
01:11:21,930 --> 01:11:24,390
And then more movies, and more movies.

1229
01:11:25,150 --> 01:11:27,170
Morten filmed it on a bike.

1230
01:11:27,310 --> 01:11:28,490
Yes, he cycles here.

1231
01:11:28,750 --> 01:11:31,210
With a camera, so he could reach it.

1232
01:11:34,010 --> 01:11:34,570
No.

1233
01:11:37,990 --> 01:11:39,370
And that was hard.

1234
01:11:39,710 --> 01:11:41,190
I remember the next day.

1235
01:11:42,010 --> 01:11:44,030
We filmed it late at night,

1236
01:11:44,210 --> 01:11:46,310
and the next day it was totally...

1237
01:11:46,310 --> 01:11:47,010
The voice was gone.

1238
01:11:49,150 --> 01:11:50,730
I had to get an injection.

1239
01:11:52,550 --> 01:11:53,110
Testosterone.

1240
01:11:54,130 --> 01:11:55,370
At the Polish hospital.

1241
01:11:56,250 --> 01:11:58,070
Because we drove it up,

1242
01:11:58,410 --> 01:12:00,010
with a dabba control,

1243
01:12:00,130 --> 01:12:01,550
when you play like that.

1244
01:12:10,220 --> 01:12:11,840
Fuck you, Motherfucker!

1245
01:12:20,600 --> 01:12:22,160
And it gets more and more violent.

1246
01:12:22,400 --> 01:12:24,080
And then the little one comes in.

1247
01:12:31,300 --> 01:12:31,980
With a new trumpet.

1248
01:12:32,600 --> 01:12:33,540
Then you can't do it anymore.

1249
01:12:39,020 --> 01:12:40,320
Do it again.

1250
01:12:46,330 --> 01:12:46,770
Trumpet.

1251
01:12:47,150 --> 01:12:49,630
That was also what we did on the day.

1252
01:12:50,130 --> 01:12:50,650
I remember.

1253
01:12:51,090 --> 01:12:54,450
We figured out how to develop it.

1254
01:12:56,270 --> 01:12:56,710
Then...

1255
01:13:00,740 --> 01:13:06,640
He really...

1256
01:13:06,640 --> 01:13:08,540
So there's no way back, Slarko.

1257
01:13:08,760 --> 01:13:09,520
No, no, no.

1258
01:13:11,180 --> 01:13:14,040
Now there are new challenges for yourself.

1259
01:13:15,480 --> 01:13:16,520
But it's a good desire.

1260
01:13:29,890 --> 01:13:31,830
One more time.

1261
01:13:44,470 --> 01:13:45,870
That was pretty cool.

1262
01:13:48,530 --> 01:13:49,090
We made it.

1263
01:13:49,090 --> 01:13:49,890
It was tiring, but we made it.

1264
01:13:58,510 --> 01:14:05,610
It was a hard day at the office, and it hasn't even surpassed that.

1265
01:14:10,160 --> 01:14:16,840
But what I remember most about these films, when I think back to when I made them,

1266
01:14:18,340 --> 01:14:24,200
is that it was very light in a way for us.

1267
01:14:25,900 --> 01:14:26,780
It wasn't so much about the money.

1268
01:14:26,780 --> 01:14:29,820
It wasn't so difficult. It was a light film.

1269
01:14:33,080 --> 01:14:36,400
When you work as a group, it's like that.

1270
01:14:38,400 --> 01:14:45,440
At the time, it was much easier to get support from the Film Institute,

1271
01:14:45,740 --> 01:14:48,760
so it was much easier to finance the two films.

1272
01:14:51,360 --> 01:14:53,680
There was a lot of support.

1273
01:14:54,480 --> 01:14:57,400
At the time, it was more simple and casual.

1274
01:15:08,820 --> 01:15:10,440
It goes further and further down from him.

1275
01:15:21,190 --> 01:15:26,370
When you think back to when you started in Copenhagen,

1276
01:15:27,070 --> 01:15:28,690
with film, TV and theatre,

1277
01:15:29,850 --> 01:15:35,710
what was the first push you had?

1278
01:15:36,850 --> 01:15:38,990
It must have changed a lot for you.

1279
01:15:39,630 --> 01:15:49,710
At the time, you wanted to do more experimental theatre and concerts.

1280
01:15:50,910 --> 01:15:53,510
At the time, it was a good experience.

1281
01:15:53,750 --> 01:15:55,910
So I said, okay, now I'm an actor.

1282
01:15:58,370 --> 01:16:05,230
So I did all kinds of things. I played in royal theatres.

1283
01:16:05,230 --> 01:16:07,650
Yes, you can play in the royal theatres.

1284
01:16:07,690 --> 01:16:14,830
Yes, but I thought, okay, now I'm not in the business of making

1285
01:16:17,630 --> 01:16:21,330
funny music performances, so I'll do this.

1286
01:16:22,230 --> 01:16:26,550
It was the whole thing with the policeman here,

1287
01:16:28,450 --> 01:16:33,030
a kind of background, who acts in all environments.

1288
01:16:33,030 --> 01:16:36,650
Yes, he was sent out to find little Mohammed.

1289
01:16:40,910 --> 01:16:44,770
You wanted to pay here, so you had to look over there

1290
01:16:44,770 --> 01:16:45,470
and take the money.

1291
01:16:51,510 --> 01:16:53,850
Yes, so he came here and left.

1292
01:17:00,310 --> 01:17:02,690
So now you have a problem you have to fix.

1293
01:17:02,690 --> 01:17:06,150
Yes, but then you have to get more and more out of balance.

1294
01:17:07,450 --> 01:17:10,390
Then it starts to get out of hand.

1295
01:17:11,810 --> 01:17:13,770
There are also some consequences now,

1296
01:17:13,830 --> 01:17:21,070
which run out of control.

1297
01:17:24,220 --> 01:17:28,720
You should try to watch the other films I've bought the rights to.

1298
01:17:30,260 --> 01:17:31,100
Which films?

1299
01:17:33,880 --> 01:17:39,280
I've bought the rights to three old Danish films,

1300
01:17:39,460 --> 01:17:44,760
which were the same age as when we made the film.

1301
01:17:45,440 --> 01:17:48,700
They were called Vilde Vennelige and Mellem Venner

1302
01:17:48,700 --> 01:17:51,260
and Stenbrun Tilt.

1303
01:17:51,920 --> 01:17:54,740
That was in the 60s.

1304
01:17:56,060 --> 01:17:57,160
I don't know any of them.

1305
01:17:57,160 --> 01:18:00,660
I don't think there are any Danes who know them.

1306
01:18:00,940 --> 01:18:02,780
I know they were shown in America,

1307
01:18:02,960 --> 01:18:07,380
because I've seen film copies with English text on them.

1308
01:18:07,560 --> 01:18:10,980
But sometimes when I travel, I only see them in Toronto at film festivals.

1309
01:18:11,300 --> 01:18:15,220
So there was a stand with your films in Italian.

1310
01:18:15,600 --> 01:18:17,740
I talked a bit with them. It's interesting.

1311
01:18:18,740 --> 01:18:22,300
And I tried to get on your channel, but I wasn't good enough.

1312
01:18:23,400 --> 01:18:25,400
Do you still have that channel?

1313
01:18:25,660 --> 01:18:25,760
Yes.

1314
01:18:26,720 --> 01:18:28,040
You should show me.

1315
01:18:29,050 --> 01:18:31,760
We're going to stream these films on my own channel.

1316
01:18:34,560 --> 01:18:36,120
I'm looking forward to that.

1317
01:18:36,400 --> 01:18:41,880
Sometimes I come as a guest on the internet and see you.

1318
01:18:43,820 --> 01:18:46,800
You've made a great show called Musik.

1319
01:18:47,080 --> 01:18:50,140
I don't know what it's called.

1320
01:18:50,880 --> 01:18:52,240
Where you choose music.

1321
01:18:53,660 --> 01:18:56,220
I've seen yours. I was really looking forward to that.

1322
01:18:56,440 --> 01:18:57,720
With a great band.

1323
01:19:00,380 --> 01:19:08,420
But the idea was to go back to your old company, Radovan.

1324
01:19:09,180 --> 01:19:11,720
Which has now become Grill Bar Aja.

1325
01:19:11,920 --> 01:19:12,820
Yes, success.

1326
01:19:13,640 --> 01:19:15,640
He talks a lot about his place.

1327
01:19:15,640 --> 01:19:17,140
Where is it beautiful?

1328
01:19:17,940 --> 01:19:20,080
It's really nice.

1329
01:19:20,820 --> 01:19:25,220
I don't even know where the Grill Bar was.

1330
01:19:25,500 --> 01:19:27,580
But it was in that Grill Bar.

1331
01:19:28,180 --> 01:19:29,420
We have to film it.

1332
01:19:29,420 --> 01:19:34,920
We had to film it. It's fantastic.

1333
01:19:37,580 --> 01:19:41,100
I remember that little bar.

1334
01:19:41,760 --> 01:19:43,600
Yes, it was a good place.

1335
01:19:43,600 --> 01:19:45,720
Hi Strøndokken.

1336
01:19:48,720 --> 01:19:54,880
It's the classic thing with the old generation.

1337
01:19:55,040 --> 01:19:57,300
Which is forced to meet up again.

1338
01:19:57,400 --> 01:19:58,920
Where everyone has spread out.

1339
01:20:05,620 --> 01:20:08,580
We have that in Copenhagen Cowboy.

1340
01:20:08,680 --> 01:20:12,940
The whole story between you and Slavko.

1341
01:20:12,940 --> 01:20:13,140
Yes, Slavko Cowboy.

1342
01:20:14,140 --> 01:20:15,320
He's also called Radovan.

1343
01:20:17,500 --> 01:20:20,560
Is he called Radovan in Copenhagen?

1344
01:20:20,720 --> 01:20:23,120
No, he doesn't know what his real name is.

1345
01:20:24,760 --> 01:20:26,940
But it's the same character.

1346
01:20:34,840 --> 01:20:38,620
How was it to play with him?

1347
01:20:38,620 --> 01:20:38,960
I'm sorry.

1348
01:20:41,180 --> 01:20:43,080
After so many years.

1349
01:20:43,400 --> 01:20:45,020
It's like going back in time.

1350
01:20:48,160 --> 01:20:55,260
We always play with Slavko Cowboy.

1351
01:21:01,200 --> 01:21:02,740
Now it's going completely wrong.

1352
01:21:06,740 --> 01:21:09,660
It's a classic thing with movies.

1353
01:21:10,220 --> 01:21:11,600
Someone comes in through a door.

1354
01:21:11,800 --> 01:21:14,060
And you have to tie them up.

1355
01:21:14,200 --> 01:21:16,340
And you have to do it quickly to get on with the story.

1356
01:21:18,800 --> 01:21:19,520
It's something strange.

1357
01:21:20,900 --> 01:21:24,640
How we jump around in the world of fiction.

1358
01:21:24,640 --> 01:21:26,180
It was seven hours ago.

1359
01:21:28,280 --> 01:21:30,600
You haven't given me any ecstasy.

1360
01:21:30,960 --> 01:21:31,820
It was with my father.

1361
01:21:33,700 --> 01:21:35,760
What a fat head. Are you fat too?

1362
01:21:37,160 --> 01:21:38,340
And he's not afraid.

1363
01:21:40,500 --> 01:21:41,640
Would you like to play with him?

1364
01:21:42,940 --> 01:21:45,340
He's had a real...

1365
01:21:45,340 --> 01:21:47,620
He was very macho.

1366
01:21:48,720 --> 01:21:50,560
Very authentic character.

1367
01:21:52,620 --> 01:21:53,740
And it's tough.

1368
01:21:53,740 --> 01:21:54,400
You gave me fucking candy.

1369
01:21:55,100 --> 01:21:57,800
You gave me balls. Not ecstasy.

1370
01:21:57,900 --> 01:21:59,060
What did you think I was going to do with them?

1371
01:22:00,700 --> 01:22:01,640
Have you read a candy book?

1372
01:22:04,340 --> 01:22:05,840
Why are you running from me?

1373
01:22:08,880 --> 01:22:10,800
You got two bags of ecstasy from me.

1374
01:22:10,900 --> 01:22:12,320
You gave me two bags of candy.

1375
01:22:16,650 --> 01:22:18,590
If you had to make more of them.

1376
01:22:18,590 --> 01:22:20,370
I don't know if you could do it more.

1377
01:22:21,650 --> 01:22:24,950
I think it's better to just keep them as they are.

1378
01:22:27,030 --> 01:22:29,150
If you're strong enough.

1379
01:22:29,150 --> 01:22:30,830
If you're strong enough to do more.

1380
01:22:31,310 --> 01:22:31,990
Then we'll see.

1381
01:22:34,590 --> 01:22:36,110
Because it's a universe.

1382
01:22:40,370 --> 01:22:43,690
When you're very strong.

1383
01:22:44,110 --> 01:22:45,750
You can feel the time.

1384
01:22:47,930 --> 01:22:48,570
You can feel the time.

1385
01:22:52,890 --> 01:22:53,790
Can you imagine?

1386
01:22:54,010 --> 01:22:56,550
If we timed it.

1387
01:22:56,710 --> 01:22:57,510
Then we would say.

1388
01:22:59,570 --> 01:23:01,590
When did the camera come back?

1389
01:23:02,350 --> 01:23:07,210
And when we pan away.

1390
01:23:08,050 --> 01:23:09,010
He would let go.

1391
01:23:09,310 --> 01:23:10,510
And then we would go back.

1392
01:23:11,290 --> 01:23:11,890
Technically.

1393
01:23:13,990 --> 01:23:14,590
What?

1394
01:23:17,190 --> 01:23:17,790
What?

1395
01:23:18,650 --> 01:23:20,090
Can you tell us?

1396
01:23:26,890 --> 01:23:29,110
You can't look at that again.

1397
01:23:30,330 --> 01:23:33,690
You have a soft spot.

1398
01:23:43,380 --> 01:23:47,540
It's all this marriage thing.

1399
01:23:47,860 --> 01:23:49,000
That's becoming more and more.

1400
01:23:52,400 --> 01:23:54,120
It's good when you say.

1401
01:23:54,260 --> 01:23:55,640
If it's hard to play chess.

1402
01:23:56,640 --> 01:24:00,360
Because the action helps me.

1403
01:24:00,680 --> 01:24:01,860
So it's becoming more and more.

1404
01:24:02,920 --> 01:24:04,340
He forgets it.

1405
01:24:04,800 --> 01:24:06,100
And then there's a problem.

1406
01:24:06,480 --> 01:24:08,860
Where the bottle closes.

1407
01:24:21,470 --> 01:24:25,570
Then you need cocoa milk.

1408
01:24:27,830 --> 01:24:28,970
Cocoa milk.

1409
01:24:36,460 --> 01:24:37,880
It's tragic to look at.

1410
01:24:55,170 --> 01:24:56,810
We should have timed it.

1411
01:24:59,790 --> 01:25:01,690
It's an automation.

1412
01:25:02,050 --> 01:25:02,910
It's a torture.

1413
01:25:05,290 --> 01:25:06,850
Where does it close?

1414
01:25:08,930 --> 01:25:09,190
There.

1415
01:25:09,190 --> 01:25:15,330
Do you want it back?

1416
01:25:17,030 --> 01:25:19,150
If you don't fuck with me.

1417
01:25:19,510 --> 01:25:20,770
Why don't you call me?

1418
01:25:21,250 --> 01:25:25,150
Do you think you can give me 10.000 bucks and expect me to call you?

1419
01:25:25,330 --> 01:25:26,150
What are you talking about?

1420
01:25:32,260 --> 01:25:35,380
It was funny to write a slang dialogue.

1421
01:25:35,760 --> 01:25:37,640
To use a slang word.

1422
01:25:38,700 --> 01:25:39,960
When you write this.

1423
01:25:41,540 --> 01:25:43,840
The more slang I could hear.

1424
01:25:43,840 --> 01:25:46,640
The more fun it was.

1425
01:26:00,340 --> 01:26:02,400
They were the same shit.

1426
01:26:02,840 --> 01:26:03,040
No.

1427
01:26:06,160 --> 01:26:07,420
They're afraid of it.

1428
01:26:09,020 --> 01:26:11,240
It's a classic.

1429
01:26:11,740 --> 01:26:13,100
The best is dead.

1430
01:26:14,360 --> 01:26:16,020
No way.

1431
01:26:21,860 --> 01:26:22,780
It's weird.

1432
01:26:23,980 --> 01:26:26,920
I'm more happy than Milo.

1433
01:26:27,620 --> 01:26:30,700
Milo just walks around in his underwear.

1434
01:26:31,980 --> 01:26:33,340
And doesn't watch the movies.

1435
01:26:38,760 --> 01:26:40,360
It's totally idiotic.

1436
01:26:43,100 --> 01:26:43,700
Can you feel anything?

1437
01:26:44,080 --> 01:26:45,300
I can't feel anything.

1438
01:26:50,770 --> 01:26:54,650
You have a big problem.

1439
01:26:54,990 --> 01:26:56,070
You've been cut.

1440
01:26:56,770 --> 01:26:58,110
I didn't know that.

1441
01:27:02,090 --> 01:27:03,450
Shut up.

1442
01:27:04,390 --> 01:27:05,670
Don't call me a junkie.

1443
01:27:07,070 --> 01:27:10,030
Nobody can call Milo a junkie.

1444
01:27:10,450 --> 01:27:10,550
No.

1445
01:27:11,070 --> 01:27:17,500
It was always about what to do with him.

1446
01:27:17,740 --> 01:27:19,960
I came up with the idea of putting him in the freezer.

1447
01:27:21,140 --> 01:27:25,620
It was an open ending.

1448
01:27:26,100 --> 01:27:31,120
To what it could lead to.

1449
01:27:38,490 --> 01:27:39,970
Oh no, not at my place.

1450
01:27:54,350 --> 01:27:55,870
I'll kill you.

1451
01:27:59,670 --> 01:28:03,990
Milo is under a lot of pressure right now.

1452
01:28:13,510 --> 01:28:17,670
I remember the first push-up.

1453
01:28:17,690 --> 01:28:19,910
It was hard for us to get a crew.

1454
01:28:20,850 --> 01:28:22,050
A film crew.

1455
01:28:24,070 --> 01:28:28,650
Nobody believed that it could lead to anything.

1456
01:28:29,130 --> 01:28:30,910
I had nothing to show.

1457
01:28:34,910 --> 01:28:39,150
It was hard for people to become criminals.

1458
01:28:39,330 --> 01:28:41,690
It was stereotypical and racist.

1459
01:28:43,570 --> 01:28:45,390
It was the wrong way to look at it.

1460
01:28:49,910 --> 01:28:51,110
We're making fiction.

1461
01:28:51,510 --> 01:28:52,890
We're not political.

1462
01:28:54,070 --> 01:29:01,510
It was the authenticity that was exciting.

1463
01:29:07,830 --> 01:29:13,610
I often hear the question when I come to Croatia or Serbia.

1464
01:29:14,130 --> 01:29:18,010
Why do you always play...

1465
01:29:21,190 --> 01:29:24,970
...films where people from the Balkans are only criminals?

1466
01:29:29,710 --> 01:29:32,410
It's a complicated question.

1467
01:29:33,650 --> 01:29:36,410
Do you play in good films or bad films?

1468
01:29:39,990 --> 01:29:45,180
It's a stereotype. If I make a film, I discuss the stereotype.

1469
01:29:45,940 --> 01:29:47,940
But I get that question all the time.

1470
01:29:48,440 --> 01:29:55,180
Like in New York, people come up to me and say,

1471
01:29:56,420 --> 01:30:01,820
we're going to do a front, we're going to play a paint character.

1472
01:30:01,820 --> 01:30:03,560
I say, it's enough, we're going to play...

1473
01:30:05,460 --> 01:30:11,680
I don't want to end up in a bad film, where I play a smart ex-boyfriend.

1474
01:30:12,600 --> 01:30:13,700
But that's what it's all about.

1475
01:30:14,540 --> 01:30:16,280
But we have discussions.

1476
01:30:21,240 --> 01:30:27,420
In Croatia, I have a passport, a Croatian encyclopedia.

1477
01:30:27,420 --> 01:30:32,120
Because they don't like me, they say,

1478
01:30:32,400 --> 01:30:40,160
he's a famous actor, who plays a gangster, or something like that.

1479
01:30:41,940 --> 01:30:43,980
But it's very limited.

1480
01:30:44,580 --> 01:30:47,100
It's about playing interesting characters.

1481
01:30:48,480 --> 01:30:53,400
And film is just fantasy, like everything else.

1482
01:30:54,580 --> 01:30:56,920
But it's also about the attitude.

1483
01:30:59,360 --> 01:31:04,400
As an actor, it's easy to think that you're supporting something,

1484
01:31:05,120 --> 01:31:06,360
that's not correct.

1485
01:31:07,340 --> 01:31:12,900
But then you have to look like you're pissing on an Italian middle-aged man,

1486
01:31:13,380 --> 01:31:16,460
because he's very Italian, or something like that.

1487
01:31:18,860 --> 01:31:25,280
Then we get to the slaughter scene, where...

1488
01:31:28,600 --> 01:31:30,660
No one is screwed anymore.

1489
01:31:35,900 --> 01:31:36,960
It was good.

1490
01:31:37,100 --> 01:31:38,960
And it was again, where it got very technical,

1491
01:31:39,300 --> 01:31:42,300
where our friend could rise up, or not.

1492
01:31:43,760 --> 01:31:46,480
He could hold on for 20 minutes at a time.

1493
01:31:59,330 --> 01:32:01,430
What is this, exciting stuff.

1494
01:32:03,830 --> 01:32:05,490
How you crawl around.

1495
01:32:05,490 --> 01:32:07,190
My family is completely...

1496
01:32:07,190 --> 01:32:08,670
You're completely gone.

1497
01:32:09,430 --> 01:32:12,590
Oh, there are some gold coins, and some watches.

1498
01:32:13,670 --> 01:32:14,910
Would you like some of this?

1499
01:32:15,130 --> 01:32:15,850
No, I don't want that.

1500
01:32:16,990 --> 01:32:18,350
I'll put it in a box.

1501
01:32:20,510 --> 01:32:23,350
So he started making all the weapons.

1502
01:32:25,970 --> 01:32:27,690
Energy to go around.

1503
01:32:35,570 --> 01:32:37,890
We did this with...

1504
01:32:37,890 --> 01:32:41,070
I think at some point, we did something violent,

1505
01:32:41,230 --> 01:32:43,750
with real pig violence.

1506
01:32:44,290 --> 01:32:44,830
Do you remember that?

1507
01:32:45,110 --> 01:32:46,590
Yes, I remember that well.

1508
01:32:46,770 --> 01:32:47,550
It was so violent.

1509
01:32:49,770 --> 01:32:51,070
It was really hard.

1510
01:32:53,250 --> 01:32:56,070
I remember I sat in a room next door,

1511
01:32:56,250 --> 01:32:58,410
where I could sit and watch it all.

1512
01:32:58,550 --> 01:33:00,050
I couldn't be in the room.

1513
01:33:00,050 --> 01:33:03,710
I thought I was three quarters of a Bruce Banner.

1514
01:33:07,790 --> 01:33:10,790
Morten could move all over the place,

1515
01:33:10,790 --> 01:33:11,810
so I couldn't be in there.

1516
01:33:12,130 --> 01:33:13,490
I could only watch from the side.

1517
01:33:15,670 --> 01:33:16,870
Luckily, I wasn't there.

1518
01:33:17,350 --> 01:33:20,010
When you walked in there, it was like...

1519
01:33:21,750 --> 01:33:23,510
Then I said, that's fine.

1520
01:33:23,690 --> 01:33:24,270
Let's do it again.

1521
01:33:26,390 --> 01:33:29,610
It was a fantastic presentation, Mark.

1522
01:33:31,770 --> 01:33:33,270
He...

1523
01:33:34,490 --> 01:33:35,450
Yes, yes.

1524
01:33:47,500 --> 01:33:51,480
The film takes this almost macabre turn,

1525
01:33:51,680 --> 01:33:53,020
where it becomes almost comical.

1526
01:33:53,020 --> 01:33:53,860
Yes.

1527
01:33:56,120 --> 01:33:59,620
But the idea was, that it became very basic,

1528
01:33:59,800 --> 01:34:02,160
that it was like slaughtering an animal.

1529
01:34:02,260 --> 01:34:02,400
Yes.

1530
01:34:02,580 --> 01:34:05,040
How they behave.

1531
01:34:05,060 --> 01:34:06,580
It's something that is common to people.

1532
01:34:08,140 --> 01:34:09,200
If you come from the countryside,

1533
01:34:09,520 --> 01:34:09,880
you're used to working in a farm.

1534
01:34:11,460 --> 01:34:13,020
People slaughter pigs.

1535
01:34:14,200 --> 01:34:15,900
Actually, I went with my father.

1536
01:34:16,600 --> 01:34:18,500
My father was really good at making sausages.

1537
01:34:18,500 --> 01:34:21,820
So we went with my grandfather and my uncle,

1538
01:34:22,380 --> 01:34:23,420
to Auschwitz-Derwent.

1539
01:34:24,040 --> 01:34:25,620
And so...

1540
01:34:25,620 --> 01:34:28,200
My father was so good at slaughtering,

1541
01:34:28,320 --> 01:34:29,600
that he was accepted.

1542
01:34:30,920 --> 01:34:32,840
But afterwards, it was fun,

1543
01:34:33,000 --> 01:34:34,820
because you ate and...

1544
01:34:35,380 --> 01:34:36,000
You ate, yes.

1545
01:34:36,800 --> 01:34:39,480
We played football with...

1546
01:34:39,480 --> 01:34:41,140
...urine blower.

1547
01:34:41,460 --> 01:34:44,600
It was like an air balloon.

1548
01:34:45,620 --> 01:34:49,920
But it's also a lot...

1549
01:34:49,920 --> 01:34:52,280
When you think about it, it's awful.

1550
01:34:56,560 --> 01:34:59,500
Yes, so the blood is drained.

1551
01:35:01,260 --> 01:35:02,740
And then it goes in the sink.

1552
01:35:09,440 --> 01:35:10,800
It was also the first time,

1553
01:35:11,040 --> 01:35:14,080
I was allowed to do this kind of thing.

1554
01:35:14,360 --> 01:35:14,960
It was a lot of fun.

1555
01:35:14,960 --> 01:35:19,120
But we didn't have the money to do anything.

1556
01:35:19,720 --> 01:35:20,540
So the important thing was,

1557
01:35:21,360 --> 01:35:23,620
that Slage could just hold the entrails,

1558
01:35:23,800 --> 01:35:25,340
and let them fall down.

1559
01:35:26,760 --> 01:35:28,900
And then in post-production,

1560
01:35:29,560 --> 01:35:30,640
we just made a...

1561
01:35:30,640 --> 01:35:33,600
We drew as if he had been cut in the stomach.

1562
01:35:33,860 --> 01:35:37,200
That was the only way to fix it.

1563
01:35:37,640 --> 01:35:39,100
Otherwise, it would have been...

1564
01:35:39,840 --> 01:35:41,100
But when you put it on,

1565
01:35:41,420 --> 01:35:43,460
it really stood out.

1566
01:35:43,460 --> 01:35:45,840
Because it's so macabre, and so heavy.

1567
01:35:46,280 --> 01:35:48,040
But in a way, it's also a...

1568
01:35:49,580 --> 01:35:51,840
...extremely black hole in it.

1569
01:35:53,880 --> 01:35:55,920
There's a pig involved,

1570
01:35:55,940 --> 01:35:57,880
to put a big gold medal in.

1571
01:36:07,390 --> 01:36:08,830
And it was one or the other

1572
01:36:09,350 --> 01:36:10,250
health inspection,

1573
01:36:10,490 --> 01:36:11,670
that we had to do.

1574
01:36:12,190 --> 01:36:13,390
Yes, you have to do everything,

1575
01:36:13,690 --> 01:36:15,250
and you have to.

1576
01:36:15,250 --> 01:36:16,870
On Copenhagen Carport,

1577
01:36:17,130 --> 01:36:18,810
we filmed inside a pigsty,

1578
01:36:19,050 --> 01:36:19,670
for a whole week.

1579
01:36:20,210 --> 01:36:22,010
I think I'm getting a nervous breakdown,

1580
01:36:22,170 --> 01:36:23,890
because it's very violent,

1581
01:36:24,070 --> 01:36:25,190
to be in places like that.

1582
01:36:34,000 --> 01:36:37,800
You have to see where the contact is,

1583
01:36:37,820 --> 01:36:38,860
and if it's wet.

1584
01:36:39,280 --> 01:36:40,000
Yes, yes.

1585
01:36:40,020 --> 01:36:40,540
Then you have to be careful.

1586
01:36:41,340 --> 01:36:43,120
If it's foggy...

1587
01:36:43,120 --> 01:36:46,220
Then you have that.

1588
01:36:46,220 --> 01:36:47,760
And it's also the kitchen,

1589
01:36:48,020 --> 01:36:48,620
where the food is made.

1590
01:36:49,260 --> 01:36:50,780
Yes, it's a nightmare.

1591
01:36:52,340 --> 01:36:54,580
That's why people get stomachaches.

1592
01:36:55,360 --> 01:36:56,260
Look at that.

1593
01:37:00,000 --> 01:37:02,020
Now the contact is gone.

1594
01:37:04,200 --> 01:37:06,220
These are the most practical problems.

1595
01:37:06,960 --> 01:37:08,240
It's the biggest challenge.

1596
01:37:24,590 --> 01:37:25,990
It's like a...

1597
01:37:25,990 --> 01:37:26,810
...work.

1598
01:37:35,630 --> 01:37:37,510
It's like a machine,

1599
01:37:37,650 --> 01:37:38,770
that just crushes everything.

1600
01:37:39,390 --> 01:37:40,330
Like in America,

1601
01:37:40,590 --> 01:37:43,210
you have that in every house.

1602
01:37:43,650 --> 01:37:44,890
Yes, it's a very American thing.

1603
01:37:44,890 --> 01:37:45,550
And also in hotels.

1604
01:37:46,510 --> 01:37:48,050
I was totally shocked.

1605
01:37:49,070 --> 01:37:51,310
In Vancouver, I got a hotel for the first time,

1606
01:37:51,530 --> 01:37:52,410
with the kitchen and everything.

1607
01:37:54,230 --> 01:37:55,910
So they put everything...

1608
01:37:56,510 --> 01:37:57,130
And they crush everything.

1609
01:37:57,150 --> 01:37:58,090
Yes, they crush everything.

1610
01:38:03,750 --> 01:38:05,990
Yes, it's a...

1611
01:38:07,690 --> 01:38:08,130
...nightmare.

1612
01:38:10,430 --> 01:38:11,630
And then the whole idea,

1613
01:38:11,830 --> 01:38:14,010
that you come home,

1614
01:38:14,950 --> 01:38:15,990
to this almost...

1615
01:38:16,770 --> 01:38:18,130
But in the beginning,

1616
01:38:18,330 --> 01:38:19,010
when we filmed it,

1617
01:38:19,050 --> 01:38:20,430
it was supposed to be the end of the scene.

1618
01:38:20,710 --> 01:38:22,370
Yes, but then...

1619
01:38:23,090 --> 01:38:24,990
I had found this house here,

1620
01:38:25,210 --> 01:38:26,790
because there was supposed to be this scene

1621
01:38:26,790 --> 01:38:27,750
with you and your daughter,

1622
01:38:28,930 --> 01:38:31,010
which was almost...

1623
01:38:31,010 --> 01:38:32,610
...a bit sad.

1624
01:38:33,270 --> 01:38:34,430
Yes, and I was very happy,

1625
01:38:34,750 --> 01:38:35,870
that the film ended there.

1626
01:38:36,590 --> 01:38:39,070
So it changes...

1627
01:38:39,070 --> 01:38:40,770
Yes, the inhumanity.

1628
01:38:40,870 --> 01:38:42,810
Now the king is in Europe,

1629
01:38:43,070 --> 01:38:44,190
and he has destroyed everything.

1630
01:38:44,850 --> 01:38:46,670
And now...

1631
01:38:46,670 --> 01:38:47,570
The palace.

1632
01:38:47,910 --> 01:38:48,670
Yes, the palace.

1633
01:38:48,950 --> 01:38:50,570
And then it's just this mundane,

1634
01:38:51,210 --> 01:38:53,930
boring life of a foreman.

1635
01:38:56,890 --> 01:38:58,950
But then there was this swimming pool,

1636
01:38:58,950 --> 01:39:00,170
which was empty,

1637
01:39:00,250 --> 01:39:01,250
and that's when we thought,

1638
01:39:01,330 --> 01:39:04,150
God, this is where we can...

1639
01:39:04,150 --> 01:39:06,930
This is where the film can...

1640
01:39:07,730 --> 01:39:08,250
...can...

1641
01:39:11,030 --> 01:39:12,010
...end, right?

1642
01:39:23,630 --> 01:39:25,090
And that's also the thing,

1643
01:39:25,150 --> 01:39:26,690
about the night before,

1644
01:39:27,150 --> 01:39:29,050
when father and daughter have their chores,

1645
01:39:29,050 --> 01:39:31,130
and then they end up asleep the next morning.

1646
01:39:31,810 --> 01:39:32,550
But very sad.

1647
01:39:32,990 --> 01:39:34,350
Yes, but it's a bit...

1648
01:39:34,350 --> 01:39:35,470
Everything is just sad.

1649
01:39:35,530 --> 01:39:36,430
Yes, it's so sad.

1650
01:39:36,550 --> 01:39:38,470
When I watch it,

1651
01:39:38,550 --> 01:39:40,730
it's always like...

1652
01:39:41,530 --> 01:39:43,270
And then he gets a coffee in the microwave.

1653
01:39:44,730 --> 01:39:45,950
We can't be more...

1654
01:39:45,950 --> 01:39:46,770
You have coffee,

1655
01:39:47,030 --> 01:39:47,970
and then you have to wait,

1656
01:39:48,170 --> 01:39:49,350
and he has to go, and she has to go,

1657
01:39:49,630 --> 01:39:51,550
and then...

1658
01:39:53,970 --> 01:39:55,890
It's like space,

1659
01:39:55,890 --> 01:39:57,890
and then they say...

1660
01:40:04,040 --> 01:40:04,960
I have to say,

1661
01:40:05,040 --> 01:40:06,360
Slarko, you are...

1662
01:40:07,160 --> 01:40:08,800
You are my favorite actor.

1663
01:40:09,400 --> 01:40:09,780
You can say that.

1664
01:40:10,740 --> 01:40:11,240
Thank you, father.

1665
01:40:11,300 --> 01:40:14,480
There is no...

1666
01:40:14,480 --> 01:40:15,940
You are one of those people,

1667
01:40:16,160 --> 01:40:17,380
who has this talent,

1668
01:40:17,520 --> 01:40:20,620
that everything is just good with you,

1669
01:40:20,820 --> 01:40:21,660
and every time you film...

1670
01:40:23,700 --> 01:40:25,200
When we've worked together,

1671
01:40:25,340 --> 01:40:26,100
you know...

1672
01:40:26,100 --> 01:40:26,960
We've worked together many times.

1673
01:40:26,960 --> 01:40:27,860
Yes, yes.

1674
01:40:29,760 --> 01:40:32,620
I feel good and free

1675
01:40:32,620 --> 01:40:33,880
when I've worked with you.

1676
01:40:36,720 --> 01:40:37,840
Good morning.

1677
01:40:38,920 --> 01:40:39,620
There you are.

1678
01:40:41,200 --> 01:40:42,100
Without anything.

1679
01:40:44,020 --> 01:40:45,120
And it was also like,

1680
01:40:45,300 --> 01:40:46,340
when I was done with this,

1681
01:40:47,020 --> 01:40:48,680
since I had all these ideas,

1682
01:40:49,980 --> 01:40:50,800
I was like,

1683
01:40:51,000 --> 01:40:52,720
in that way...

1684
01:40:52,720 --> 01:40:55,840
Then I would rather...

1685
01:40:56,740 --> 01:40:58,180
go beyond the borders of the country,

1686
01:40:58,180 --> 01:40:58,560
you know.

1687
01:41:05,150 --> 01:41:05,950
And this was...

1688
01:41:05,950 --> 01:41:07,530
I remember how the house looked.

1689
01:41:07,890 --> 01:41:08,850
I think it was in Bagsvær,

1690
01:41:08,950 --> 01:41:09,430
or something like that.

1691
01:41:12,010 --> 01:41:14,350
But when you get behind all the glamour,

1692
01:41:14,570 --> 01:41:16,670
there is really just a

1693
01:41:16,670 --> 01:41:18,150
boring normality, you know.

1694
01:41:18,990 --> 01:41:20,070
And then the idea was,

1695
01:41:20,090 --> 01:41:20,990
that it would end up

1696
01:41:20,990 --> 01:41:24,890
in a more...

1697
01:41:27,550 --> 01:41:28,810
poetic way, you know.

1698
01:41:28,810 --> 01:41:30,250
An emptiness.

1699
01:41:30,530 --> 01:41:32,370
There is emptiness around it, you know.

1700
01:41:32,430 --> 01:41:34,530
And then the swimming pool,

1701
01:41:34,730 --> 01:41:36,850
which symbolizes a different form

1702
01:41:36,850 --> 01:41:38,070
from that time, was a joy.

1703
01:41:38,530 --> 01:41:40,230
And think about the lines

1704
01:41:40,230 --> 01:41:41,710
with the trees, you know.

1705
01:41:42,030 --> 01:41:45,050
It's really like a human emptiness.

1706
01:41:46,030 --> 01:41:48,030
Like he's in a park.

1707
01:41:49,010 --> 01:41:50,890
If you had a castle,

1708
01:41:51,030 --> 01:41:52,390
you would have a park around it.

1709
01:41:53,870 --> 01:41:56,250
And then the swimming pool,

1710
01:41:56,250 --> 01:41:57,310
which symbolizes a different form

1711
01:41:57,310 --> 01:41:59,070
from that time, was a joy.

1712
01:41:59,070 --> 01:41:59,910
And it looked like that,

1713
01:42:00,530 --> 01:42:01,830
so it was a total joy.

1714
01:42:02,230 --> 01:42:03,090
And then I said,

1715
01:42:03,170 --> 01:42:03,910
let's film here.

1716
01:42:06,010 --> 01:42:08,330
And when I thought about

1717
01:42:08,330 --> 01:42:09,630
the ending scene,

1718
01:42:10,290 --> 01:42:10,770
I thought,

1719
01:42:11,090 --> 01:42:14,090
the eyes should go

1720
01:42:14,090 --> 01:42:15,770
into the empty sky.

1721
01:42:17,990 --> 01:42:19,290
You haven't made it up,

1722
01:42:19,350 --> 01:42:20,050
but it's that.

1723
01:42:20,230 --> 01:42:22,990
It's rich,

1724
01:42:22,990 --> 01:42:24,670
and over there

1725
01:42:24,670 --> 01:42:27,230
was the empty sky.

1726
01:42:27,590 --> 01:42:31,060
And I thought, what about Poul Nyrup?

1727
01:42:31,063 --> 01:42:33,188
He was the one who made those three films.

1728
01:42:34,790 --> 01:42:36,150
And what about

1729
01:42:36,150 --> 01:42:37,410
your contact?

1730
01:42:38,170 --> 01:42:39,990
I had heard about him,

1731
01:42:40,670 --> 01:42:43,070
and then...

1732
01:42:47,030 --> 01:42:48,470
I had...

1733
01:42:49,590 --> 01:42:51,710
found out about his children,

1734
01:42:52,370 --> 01:42:53,330
and asked if I could buy

1735
01:42:53,330 --> 01:42:53,910
his film.

1736
01:42:54,050 --> 01:42:54,630
And I did.

1737
01:42:56,070 --> 01:42:58,110
And then I made it

1738
01:42:58,110 --> 01:43:00,170
together with these three Pusher films,

1739
01:43:00,510 --> 01:43:02,230
plus the three Poul Nyrup films,

1740
01:43:02,290 --> 01:43:03,910
which I scanned in 4K.

1741
01:43:08,830 --> 01:43:12,030
It was really cool.

1742
01:43:14,790 --> 01:43:16,030
You should see them,

1743
01:43:16,030 --> 01:43:17,330
because it's a really funny picture

1744
01:43:17,330 --> 01:43:19,010
of another time,

1745
01:43:19,110 --> 01:43:19,830
where there was a guy

1746
01:43:19,830 --> 01:43:21,110
who made a crazy film

1747
01:43:21,110 --> 01:43:22,390
in the same way.

1748
01:43:24,210 --> 01:43:26,310
Just filmed a film with

1749
01:43:27,770 --> 01:43:28,770
uneducated actors,

1750
01:43:29,230 --> 01:43:30,030
and people from the streets,

1751
01:43:30,190 --> 01:43:30,470
and friends,

1752
01:43:31,990 --> 01:43:34,930
Filmed at his place,

1753
01:43:35,390 --> 01:43:36,250
and stuff like that.

1754
01:43:36,650 --> 01:43:39,270
With pictures and music.

1755
01:43:39,270 --> 01:43:40,490
It was really cool.

1756
01:43:43,410 --> 01:43:45,590
But Zlatko, it is always

1757
01:43:45,590 --> 01:43:46,070
a pleasure,

1758
01:43:46,650 --> 01:43:48,450
and we have to do something again.

1759
01:43:49,150 --> 01:43:50,110
Yes, okay.

1760
01:43:51,390 --> 01:43:52,630
Again, yes.