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(CROWD CHEERING)
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(PLAYING METAL ON METAL)
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# Metal on metal
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# Feeling the grind
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# Up go the hammers
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# A victim to find
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# Metal on metal
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# Heads start to bang
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# Denim and leathers, chains that clang#
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Come on, now!
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# Keep on rockin'
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# To this metal tonight
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# Keep on pounding
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# Join the heavy metal fight#
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MALCOLM DOME: I remember the first time
I heard Metal On Metal.
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You gotta hear it. It's so heavy.
It's heavier than anything you've ever heard.
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When Anvil first showed up on the scene,
it was like, "Fuck!
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"This is cool. This is a statement."
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Like, literally, these guys are going to turn
the music world upside down.
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Seeing them was like
a challenge to us to say,
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"Well, if we can't be better than that,
then we should just go home."
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# Metal on metal
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All the people back from stage!
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# Metal on metal
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They're a great band, yeah.
I always liked Anvil. They got my vote.
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If you actually had to choose
one band and one album
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that really started the whole ball rolling,
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it would be Metal On Metal
and it would be Anvil.
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The minute you heard Anvil,
the minute you heard the music,
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the minute you saw the pictures,
the minute you heard the story,
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you could tell that this was the real deal.
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(HEAVY METAL MUSIC PLAYING)
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Anvil was one of those bands that just
put on this really amazing live performance.
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Lips, the singer, used to come out
with this bondage harness on
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and he used to come out with this dildo
and play his Flying V.
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I mean, it was just complete insanity,
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and that's why it was
such a huge turn- on for us kids.
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It was like something we'd never seen before.
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(PLAYING SOLO)
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They were thrash, man.
They were a fast band.
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And you're talking about
a year before the big 4,
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Slayer, Metallica, Anthrax and Megadeth.
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There's a certain sound
that comes from that album
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that has become one of the basic formulas
for any heavy metal record made today.
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We were talking about Robb Reiner, like,
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he was by far the best metal drummer
out there, in terms of his ability.
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He was the guy. There was a "holy shit".
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They were all good.
There wasn't a bad guy in the band.
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They were all great at what they did.
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They should have made it a lot bigger.
I don't really understand the reason why.
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Sometimes life deals you a tough deck.
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I don't know what happened.
Why did they just fall off the radar?
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I really have no idea.
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You have to be at the right place
at the right time. That's the whole thing.
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If you're not at the right place
at the right time, you will never do it.
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I don't know if there was an isolation thing
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because of the Canadian element,
or whatever,
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but something didn't translate
all the way up to the next level.
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They never really got the respect
that they deserved after a while
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because, as big as an influence
as they had on everybody,
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everybody just sort of ripped them off
and then, sort of, just left them for dead.
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This is where it begins. Basically, it's 7:00.
I'm not sure what they're serving up today.
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It's probably, I don't know.
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From week to week, it slightly changes.
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Every day it's a different menu
but in different orders.
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Let's say one week they have pizza,
shepherd's pie,
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and then the next week
they'll have shepherd's pie, then pizza.
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You know, put it out of order,
out of the order from the week before.
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If they happen to make shepherd's pie
or something like that,
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this week they'll make meatloaf
next week on that day.
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They'll rally between meatloaf
and shepherd's pie
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or meatballs with mashed potatoes.
You know, just depends.
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(PEOPLE CHATTING)
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- I can't believe it. You're so cynical.
- Where's the 20 bucks?
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LIPS: Today is a Monday schedule, which is,
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they have to put bananas in all the deliveries.
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You see, there's 10 racks, 10 routes,
10 vans, 10 drivers
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and I'm one of those 10 drivers.
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For all this horrible shit
that I've got to go through,
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I've got Anvil that gives me my happiness
and it works out really good,
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because even though
Anvil doesn't give me pay,
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it gives me the joy and the pleasure
that you need to get through life.
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The way I look at it, really, is that it could
never be worse than what it already is.
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If it never got better, that's the way it is.
You see what I'm saying?
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So, the only way that it could really...
It could only get better.
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It can't get worse from whatever's
going to happen. There's no way.
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But, on the other hand, if it did get worse,
at least, this time, after all's said and done,
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I can say that all has been said and done.
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Instead of,
"I've left a whole bunch of things undone
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"and I wasn't able to do that
and I couldn't do this
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"and I didn't do that
and I should have been this way
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"and I could have been that way."
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At least, this time, I'll do everything
that it possibly takes to get there.
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To make the success happen
and feel it from internally this time.
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(DRILLING)
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- MAN: How's it going with the band, man?
- Great, man. We're writing our new album.
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(LAUGHS)
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Fuck, I'd rather be on a stage
than doing this, you know.
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At the moment, it gives me purpose.
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It's part of my psychoactive
therapy sessions.
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And my doctor says I'm doing well,
you know.
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So, that's it. But, yeah,
give me another stage and another party
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and I'm really happy.
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(DRUMS PLAYING)
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(CHEERING)
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LIPS: I love to entertain. It's part....
It's in my soul.
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Nothing is like being in the face of your fans.
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There's a moment,
and there are actual beautiful moments,
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human moments, where you're actually,
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you're in the same room
as the people that love you.
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MAN: Yeah!
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Hello there, Toronto!
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MAN: Yeah!
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(METAL ON METAL PLAYING)
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# Keep on rockin'
to this metal tonight
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# Keep on rockin'
Keep on rockin'
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Robb, he's come over to my place
so many times delivering CDs, T- shirts.
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Yeah, Robb's been amazing, for sure.
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They wrote a tune after him and me,
Cut Loose and Mad Dog.
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# I'm just a mad, bad dog
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(CHUCKLING)
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(BOTH HOWLING)
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I've gone to probably
200 or 300 shows of Anvil.
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We've been to Oshawa, Sudbury,
we used to travel with them.
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It's an outlet, why not?
People do other bad things in life.
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It's a good outlet, metal.
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(ALL CHANTING)
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Yeah, to my dying day, the metal for sure.
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"I'd rather be a king below
than a servant above.
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"I'd rather be free and hate
than a prisoner of love.
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"Six, six, oh, six. Six."
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(EXCLAIMING)
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(CROWD CHEERING)
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This is going to be
the best birthday I've ever had.
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Something like that.
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(CROWD CHEERING)
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REINER: The tunes that we have
for the upcoming album
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are fucking, like, unbelievable.
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The feels, the riffs, the grooves, the lyrics,
pure, fucking magic.
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(HEAVY METAL MUSIC PLAYING)
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LIPS: Most people only know us
for our first 3 albums,
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Hard 'N' Heavy, Metal On Metal
and Forged In Fire.
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But there's a lot of other stuff,
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like Backwaxed, Strength Of Steel,
Pound For Pound,
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Live Past Or Present, Worth The Weight,
Plugged In Permanent,
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Absolutely No Alternative, Speed Of Sound,
Plenty Of Power,
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Still Going Strong and Back To Basics.
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Me, Lips, we put this band together
about 5 years ago,
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but we've been playing together in a band
since we were 15, 16 years old.
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- This is where we learnt how to play.
- Yeah.
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Yeah, this is a lot of the beginnings
of our whole friendship,
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our relationship with the band and life.
It all happened here.
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Every day on the way home from school
I hear this blasting music
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coming from that window right there.
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Whoever's playing to this music
is playing tight. It's a drummer.
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It's fucking, like,
6 shits coming out of their eyes.
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Anyway, I meet this guy in my biology class
and he goes,
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"Hey, man, I'm going to get this guy,
Robb Reiner.
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"He lives over at the corner of the Almans'."
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All I could see was this speaker
that was sitting in the window
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and heavy music like either Sabbath
or Grand Funk or Cactus,
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a lot of Cactus. The guy really liked Cactus.
And I go...
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(CAR HONKING)
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"Who could possibly like Cactus?"
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We had one that we wrote
called The Lola Song
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and it had nothing to do
with the song by The Kinks.
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The Lolas were a little frozen kind of treat
and it was called the Lola
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and we liked them so much
we wrote a song about them.
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LIPS: We were just innocent kids.
We didn't really know what we were doing.
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We just started rocking out
and making this music.
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(PLAYING SCHOOL LOVE)
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# Out in the school yard
Little peaches play
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# Rubbing their beaves
Got a lot to say
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(APPLAUSE)
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Today on Shirley,
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"Sex, drugs and rock 'n' roll,
what's it doing to our kids?"
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Now, let me read some lyrics from a song
called Toe Jam by the group Anvil.
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"Dig a little deeper, hip your partner,
make her shout,
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"back to front, side to side,
tip your cap and come inside,
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"down with her fishnets, up with her skirt,
dig a little deeper, till you hit pay dirt."
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(ALL LAUGHING)
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As soon as he met Robb, Robb is a drummer,
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and Steven wouldn't continue school.
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He wasn't gonna... He gave up school.
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Old Pancer's,
home of the corned beef sandwich.
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I think the first song we ever wrote
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- was called Thumb Hang.
- Thumb Hang. Yeah.
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We were trying to write a song
about the Spanish Inquisition.
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We learnt about it in history class.
They would hang people up by their thumbs
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if they didn't take on Catholicism.
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So, you know, I figured,
"Hey, there's a cool subject. Thumb hang."
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(HUMMING)
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# Thumbs will twist
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# Can you resist?
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# Thumb hang
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Fuck, we should be doing that again.
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- They're like brothers.
- DROID: They're like brothers.
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I mean, it would be...
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I think it would be like
splitting Siamese twins, really.
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They've just always been very tight.
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What, they've been around
for almost 30 years now.
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And it's just amazing how they're going to
keep on going and going and going.
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They're never going to stop.
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You have to structure your life around it,
I guess.
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You know,
we changed our wedding date for it.
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Averey was born the Friday
before he went away on the tour,
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we kind of got him started.
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You know,
"Gotta have this baby now, he's leaving."
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- MAN: What does your dad do for a living?
- He's in a band.
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- What's the name of the band?
- Anvil.
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- What do you think of them?
- Pretty good.
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LIPS: The band has been around so long,
it's not like a band that just got reunited.
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We're in shape, we're in playing shape,
we're in writing shape.
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It's not like we let it fall apart
and then we're trying to rebuild it.
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We've been building it all along
and working at it.
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I think it's probably got more potential now
than it ever has.
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It's been an honour and a thrill
to be in this band for 10 years.
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And there was moments when I wondered,
"Is this the right place for me, or is this...
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"Am I... Are there other opportunities
for me out there?"
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But those thoughts don't last long
when I start thinking of,
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"Yeah, I'm in Anvil."
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I was a big Anvil fan for many years
growing up as a teenager.
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So sometimes I still can't believe, it's like,
"Wow, I'm in Anvil! I can't believe it."
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(LAUGHS) You know?
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LIPS: Ivan met this girl over in Europe
by the name of Tiziana.
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She's actually an agent
and she's been e- mailing me.
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It looks like she's been a big fan of the band
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and she's basically telling me that she has
a passion and love for metal music
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and I guess we're part of that.
It looks like she's booked us a tour.
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Wow, look at this. Italy, Switzerland,
231
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Austria, France, England, Belgium, Germany.
1,500 euro a fucking show, man.
232
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Holy shit, this is going to be
the biggest tour I've done in 20 years.
233
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When I sit at home or work
at Choice Children's Catering,
234
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they don't know that my band even exists.
235
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But if I happen to play, you know,
a show someplace in Europe
236
00:14:55,960 --> 00:14:58,959
and one of the labels goes,
"Hey, man, that band Anvil
237
00:14:59,040 --> 00:15:01,599
"that we heard about, you know,
20 years ago, they're playing.
238
00:15:01,680 --> 00:15:03,959
"Let's go see them." That's all I need.
239
00:15:04,120 --> 00:15:06,079
(SPEAKING)
240
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LIPS: Heavy metal is a really
serious culture in Europe.
241
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This is the stronghold.
That's why it will never, ever go away.
242
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The Sweden Rock Festival, here we are.
243
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Ready to rock, man. Rock and roll.
244
00:15:41,320 --> 00:15:42,399
(LAUGHING)
245
00:15:42,480 --> 00:15:44,079
(PEOPLE CHEERING)
246
00:15:44,160 --> 00:15:46,959
Swedish Rock Festival presents to you Anvil!
247
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(PEOPLE SCREAMING)
248
00:15:51,680 --> 00:15:53,599
(HEAVY METAL MUSIC PLAYING)
249
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Anvil!
250
00:15:56,280 --> 00:16:00,559
LIPS: The foundation of the business
comes down to the fans
251
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and the people that love your band.
252
00:16:02,240 --> 00:16:06,519
And, without those people,
you really are nowhere.
253
00:16:06,600 --> 00:16:08,359
(PLAYING 666)
254
00:16:19,840 --> 00:16:21,399
(CHEERING)
255
00:16:27,120 --> 00:16:30,799
We're the matinee act
and we kicked fucking ass.
256
00:16:31,440 --> 00:16:37,799
"Hello, this is Lips from the band Anvil,
and you're listening to Rock Station Kiel,
257
00:16:37,880 --> 00:16:39,639
"you know it."
258
00:16:39,720 --> 00:16:40,839
Okay.
259
00:16:42,960 --> 00:16:46,079
And once again, please, I turn it off.
260
00:16:46,160 --> 00:16:47,479
(LAUGHING)
261
00:16:47,560 --> 00:16:49,439
- I'm so sorry.
- MAN: Practise.
262
00:16:49,520 --> 00:16:51,999
- Yeah, okay, sorry. Again.
- "Hello, everybody...
263
00:16:52,640 --> 00:16:54,639
Oh, you've got the same trousers on as...
264
00:16:54,720 --> 00:16:57,999
No, actually, I have got the same trousers...
They look similar.
265
00:16:58,080 --> 00:17:01,799
Michael is like the Beethoven
of lead guitar players, man.
266
00:17:02,760 --> 00:17:08,079
This is where it originates from.
This is where half my style comes from.
267
00:17:08,160 --> 00:17:11,679
Do you remember that?
I played with the women's vibrator?
268
00:17:13,800 --> 00:17:16,839
- Anvil, Anvil.
- I love this guy, man.
269
00:17:16,920 --> 00:17:18,839
You're a good man. You're a good man.
270
00:17:18,920 --> 00:17:22,239
The first time I'd seen you
was across the street from where I lived,
271
00:17:22,320 --> 00:17:24,079
when you played in Toronto.
272
00:17:24,160 --> 00:17:27,639
- You went to a videogame place.
- Okay.
273
00:17:27,720 --> 00:17:29,559
It was right across the street
from where I lived...
274
00:17:29,640 --> 00:17:31,839
- Okay.
- ...and that's the first place I saw you
275
00:17:31,920 --> 00:17:35,079
and you were coming on to this girl
by the name of Jan Wolfman
276
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and we've written a song
called Tall And Teasin'.
277
00:17:38,200 --> 00:17:41,759
She was a really, really tall chick
with long black hair.
278
00:17:41,840 --> 00:17:43,079
- I don't remember.
- I know. You don't remember.
279
00:17:43,160 --> 00:17:45,199
(BOTH LAUGHING)
280
00:17:45,280 --> 00:17:46,639
- I'll see you later.
- Okay.
281
00:17:46,720 --> 00:17:49,159
Can you fucking believe
the people we're meeting?
282
00:17:50,040 --> 00:17:51,119
Mr Lips, nice to see you.
283
00:17:51,200 --> 00:17:53,039
- How are you, man?
- Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm fine.
284
00:17:53,120 --> 00:17:55,319
So you came to see us at Super Rock?
285
00:17:55,400 --> 00:17:57,359
- Yeah, absolutely.
- Really, yeah?
286
00:17:57,440 --> 00:18:00,199
- I was a high school student, yeah.
- Oh, really?
287
00:18:00,280 --> 00:18:03,479
Yeah. You've got many fans in Japan, yeah.
288
00:18:03,560 --> 00:18:08,399
But if you have a chance to go to Japan,
maybe next time, then you should do it.
289
00:18:08,480 --> 00:18:10,919
- What, do it in Japan?
- Yeah, of course.
290
00:18:12,400 --> 00:18:14,199
(SPEAKING)
291
00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:35,639
It's great to see you, man.
It's really great to see you. Really.
292
00:18:36,160 --> 00:18:39,719
Here we are backstage
trying to talk to Ted Nugent.
293
00:18:40,840 --> 00:18:44,999
And...pretty interestingly...
294
00:18:45,080 --> 00:18:48,839
Actually, I think that...
That's Tommy Aldridge right there.
295
00:18:48,920 --> 00:18:50,799
Tommy! Tommy!
296
00:19:12,200 --> 00:19:13,719
(SPEAKING)
297
00:19:19,920 --> 00:19:22,639
Yeah, well, that certainly is a problem.
I can see it already.
298
00:19:55,400 --> 00:19:56,479
(MUTTERING)
299
00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:06,439
Until we become a real commodity,
this is what you deal with.
300
00:20:06,600 --> 00:20:08,639
(READY TO RIGHT PLAYING)
301
00:20:15,800 --> 00:20:17,919
(PEOPLE SCREAMING)
302
00:20:53,240 --> 00:20:56,359
# Oy, oy, oy, Moishe laid a guy
303
00:20:56,440 --> 00:20:59,559
# What ever happened
to my little Jewish boy?
304
00:20:59,640 --> 00:21:03,159
# I send him to school
to learn and read and write
305
00:21:03,240 --> 00:21:05,799
# Now he comes back
schtupping shiksas every night
306
00:21:10,840 --> 00:21:15,199
Would you please ask somebody
who is just walking around for the way,
307
00:21:15,280 --> 00:21:21,919
because you need to reach Smichov.
Smichov, Prague 5.
308
00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:24,279
I'll wait on the phone and please ask them,
309
00:21:24,360 --> 00:21:29,079
so I can talk to him in Czech
and try to help you to find a way.
310
00:21:29,480 --> 00:21:31,239
(SPEAKING)
311
00:21:35,200 --> 00:21:37,039
MAN 1 : Is that them?
MAN 2: It has to be...
312
00:21:37,120 --> 00:21:38,479
MAN 1 : Yeah, it has to be.
313
00:21:38,560 --> 00:21:43,479
Halle- fucking- lujah, man! This is what
the fuck it takes to get to fucking Prague?
314
00:21:43,560 --> 00:21:47,439
We've been circling the fucking streets
for 2 hours. Fuck.
315
00:21:48,520 --> 00:21:51,519
The worst thing about it is,
I have to throw all my fucking drugs away
316
00:21:51,600 --> 00:21:52,639
for nothing.
317
00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:56,119
There was, you know, all the dogs.
What fucking dogs?
318
00:21:56,200 --> 00:21:58,879
There was never going to be
any fucking dogs, man.
319
00:21:58,960 --> 00:22:02,399
(SPEAKING CZECH)
320
00:22:02,480 --> 00:22:03,839
Sorry for being late,
321
00:22:03,920 --> 00:22:07,439
but you've got a really complicated city
that we can't read the signs.
322
00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:10,199
(PEOPLE CHEERING)
323
00:22:24,200 --> 00:22:26,919
(CHANTING) Anvil! Anvil! Very good!
324
00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:31,159
Anvil! Anvil! Very good! Very good!
325
00:22:31,240 --> 00:22:33,439
Anvil! Anvil!
326
00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:40,799
- MAN: Very good!
- Very good! Anvil! Anvil!
327
00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:43,159
(ROARING)
328
00:22:43,240 --> 00:22:46,079
See, I'm my own roadie. I ain't a rock star yet.
329
00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:48,599
(SPEAKING)
330
00:22:59,040 --> 00:23:00,959
(PEOPLE CHATTERING)
331
00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:03,039
What's going on here, buddy?
332
00:23:03,120 --> 00:23:05,119
(INDISTINCT)
333
00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:09,839
That's nice.
334
00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:12,919
I guess he figures if he gives me
a bit of goulash, I'll forget about it.
335
00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:14,679
(SPEAKING)
336
00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:16,359
No. We're not getting fucking paid.
337
00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:17,999
Where's that fucking club owner?
338
00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:19,599
You are too late.
339
00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:22,959
If I was too late,
I wouldn't have fucking played, pal.
340
00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:24,839
You're going to fucking pay me.
341
00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:28,679
MAN: Most of people goes away.
Most of people goes away.
342
00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:30,439
- I did my full set.
- Sorry.
343
00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:33,199
I did my work. I want to get paid.
344
00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:37,599
You should have told us
you weren't paying us
345
00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:39,719
before we fucking played,
then we wouldn't have fucking played.
346
00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:42,759
You fucking piece of shit.
You fucking pay me. I fucking worked.
347
00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:44,719
LIPS: I'm going to kick your fucking face in.
348
00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:46,719
MAN: Are you crazy, man?
LIPS: Yeah, I am fucking crazy.
349
00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:49,359
I just worked my ass off
and you won't fucking pay me.
350
00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:50,679
You're a motherfucker.
351
00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:51,999
I'll just give you my business card.
352
00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:54,559
- I'm a lawyer.
- Okay, you're a lawyer.
353
00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:59,079
You played in front of fuck- all people
here tonight. You were screwed.
354
00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:03,239
You have a shit manager.
Listen, let's be honest about this.
355
00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:04,399
Right.
356
00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:08,879
You, Anvil, should be playing in front of,
I don't know, 1,000 minimum people
357
00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:11,999
every night in Europe. That's my opinion.
358
00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:13,999
- Yeah, you're probably right.
- Given your reputation...
359
00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:17,879
Given your reputation, you should be playing
in front of 1,000 people every night,
360
00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:19,599
and you are not.
361
00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:23,039
Now you gotta ask yourself
why you're not doing that.
362
00:24:23,120 --> 00:24:26,839
- I've been asking myself that for 20 years.
- Because you've got a shit manager.
363
00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:30,919
I could answer that in one word,
2 words, 3 words.
364
00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:32,759
- Go ahead.
- We haven't got good management.
365
00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:38,759
(SPEAKING)
366
00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:41,359
Bye!
367
00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:47,999
(TIZIANA EXCLAIMING)
368
00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:52,199
We are here from...
In perfect time, in perfect time!
369
00:24:52,280 --> 00:24:55,399
If I miss the train I have to pay double.
370
00:24:56,200 --> 00:24:57,639
(SPEAKS ITALIAN)
371
00:24:57,720 --> 00:24:59,839
I was so, so, so angry.
372
00:24:59,920 --> 00:25:04,359
Okay, listen. You call MasterCard,
cancel your payment.
373
00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:06,559
Listen, they do that.
374
00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:09,519
(SPEAKING IN BROKEN ENGLISH)
375
00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:13,119
For to go, for to back.
For to back is, again, invalid.
376
00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:15,319
For to go now, change it.
377
00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:22,359
(REINER SIGHS)
378
00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:30,279
The one thing that's a really good thing,
man, is that we found those sleeping bags.
379
00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:41,519
(INDISTINCT CHATTER)
380
00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:43,479
(TIZIANA YELLING IN ITALIAN)
381
00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:56,639
It's not you! It's you that will play!
You understand me?
382
00:25:57,920 --> 00:26:00,719
Because the promoter ask you
if you will play!
383
00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:03,239
And you should answer, no!
384
00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:07,439
- Stop!
- TIZIANA: Please! Today is a very big day!
385
00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:09,079
(SPEAKING)
386
00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:11,519
- We're not playing tonight?
- No.
387
00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:14,719
What happened?
388
00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:18,879
- Whatever.
- I know nothing. I don't know anything.
389
00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:22,159
I'm not getting in a pissing contest
over this, okay?
390
00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:29,679
"Lips, Lips, how come this, how come that?"
391
00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:32,519
I don't fucking know!
I'm just a fucking guy, man.
392
00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:34,719
I just wanted to come and do a tour.
393
00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:40,039
I did everything I fucking could
to make this as pleasant as possible
394
00:26:40,120 --> 00:26:45,479
and it's been nothing but a nightmare.
The whole thing, from top to bottom.
395
00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:49,799
No one listens to me when I say things.
You can imagine how I feel.
396
00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:51,519
(SPEAKING)
397
00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:56,039
I'm doing everything right
and I'm getting shit on.
398
00:26:56,120 --> 00:27:00,839
He's going home. He's done with the band.
Fucking, he wants to sue you civilly, and...
399
00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:02,039
- For what?
- I don't know.
400
00:27:02,120 --> 00:27:04,879
It's so unfair to Anvil.
It's so unfair to Anvil, man.
401
00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:08,639
How much more can one person put their
fucking love and dedication into something?
402
00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:10,759
How much more can one person go?
403
00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:14,519
This fucking band, man,
I need it to rise, man.
404
00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:18,079
Robb, I don't want to fight with you.
Do you understand me?
405
00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:21,519
Look at me.
I don't want to fucking fight with you, man.
406
00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:22,919
- Okay?
- But you did.
407
00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:26,199
I know and we always end up like that.
What for?
408
00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:30,159
Only to end up where we were
the day before, everything's okay.
409
00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:34,119
Okay? So let's just go play
and we get on with it.
410
00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:36,719
Anyway, the place is jam- fucking- packed.
411
00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:38,679
(ROCK MUSIC PLAYING)
412
00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:54,719
(MAN COUGHING)
413
00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:02,319
It's so unprofessional,
what we are going through right now.
414
00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:04,279
It's fucking... It's sad.
415
00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:21,999
Welcome to Romania.
416
00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:23,639
(ALL CHATTERING)
417
00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:25,479
Tomorrow, it's cool.
418
00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:32,079
LIPS: Tiziana's told us there's going to be
at least 5,000 to 10,000 people there.
419
00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:34,119
It's a huge, huge arena.
420
00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:37,679
Even the mayor of Transylvania
is supposed to show up.
421
00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:45,879
ALL: Anvil!
422
00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:55,719
Look at this. It's the biggest fucking gig
and the littlest amp.
423
00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:58,719
(TEASE ME, PLEASE ME PLAYING)
424
00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:09,279
- Anvil very good.
- Father and son.
425
00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:11,679
I'm proud of this father, he is my dad.
426
00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:14,359
(ANNOUNCING IN ROMANIAN)
427
00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:22,679
(MAN YELLING)
428
00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:24,239
(ROCK MUSIC PLAYING)
429
00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:25,759
(SINGING)
430
00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:48,199
ANNOUNCER: Hello, people!
Behold the gods of Canadian bands,
431
00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:50,839
Toronto's own Anvil!
432
00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:52,399
(DRUMROLL)
433
00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:14,639
(CROWD CHEERING)
434
00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:17,279
(YELLING IN ROMANIAN)
435
00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:31,039
- BOY: Max. Max.
- Max?
436
00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:35,319
(SPEAKING)
437
00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:39,279
- Yes.
- Why?
438
00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:46,519
They never pay me.
99.9% of bands never get paid.
439
00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:50,399
That's the truth.
I work every day just like everybody else.
440
00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:54,959
I'm a regular person, you know?
Right now, I'm on vacation.
441
00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:58,719
I leave my job and I come and I rock and roll.
442
00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:02,079
And then I go back,
and it's back to the same old bullshit.
443
00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:24,679
LIPS: We worked for 5 weeks,
got paid nothing.
444
00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:28,159
Not even one record company showed up.
445
00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:36,519
- Have a good weekend?
- Good, thanks.
446
00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:38,639
- Okay, that's good.
- How about you?
447
00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:41,239
Not too bad. A bit busy.
448
00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:44,319
LIPS: Sometimes things go wrong.
449
00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:46,639
Things went drastically wrong.
450
00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:50,319
But, at least, there was a tour
for it to go wrong on.
451
00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:55,039
Tiziana was nothing but help,
her heart was in the right place
452
00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:58,959
and when she said she was going to do it
with passion and love,
453
00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:02,199
that's precisely what she did.
She was good to her word.
454
00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:05,279
I'm grateful. I don't regret a minute of it.
455
00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:19,119
By the power invested in me
by the province of Ontario,
456
00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:22,839
it is my honour and delight
to declare you henceforth
457
00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:26,239
to be husband and wife.
And you may kiss your bride.
458
00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:28,359
(WHOOPS)
459
00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:31,159
See, guitar picks.
460
00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:32,439
- Yeah.
- Very neat.
461
00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:34,999
(LAUGHING) All right, rock 'n' roll, baby.
462
00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:42,119
(PLAYING 666)
463
00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:15,519
MAN: So what's he given up over the years
in order to do what he wants to do?
464
00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:18,919
Well, making money. He gave that up.
465
00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:24,679
And that was a little difficult for me to accept
466
00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:27,399
because I'd like my children to go to school
467
00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:29,519
and make something of themselves.
468
00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:34,079
Typical Jewish immigrant parents.
469
00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:37,479
Anyone that goes into the arts
generally does not succeed.
470
00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:39,439
It's a tough life and they didn't
really want that for him.
471
00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:44,879
But you also couldn't understand his choice.
You also were not...
472
00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:50,359
How could I... I mean, it was a tough life
that he chose for himself.
473
00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:51,839
He wasn't going to be a tailor.
474
00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:53,559
He wasn't going to go
into the menswear business.
475
00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:55,959
Steven is not a businessman. He's an artist.
476
00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:59,159
That's who he is.
He didn't want to live in mediocrity.
477
00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:04,439
He'd rather live in poverty and have nothing.
He wanted to prove my father wrong, I think,
478
00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:09,319
and he's been searching for that validation
since he's 10 years old.
479
00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:13,799
That this effort that he's put forth
to become a great musician
480
00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:15,839
would become worth it.
481
00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:23,719
REINER: They just didn't understand.
He deserved the same support that I got.
482
00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:29,399
My parents were amazing.
My father and mother loved the fact
483
00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:32,519
that I got interested in something
and I excelled at it very, very well.
484
00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:34,719
They saw the progress,
so they were just very supportive.
485
00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:37,319
He kept saying to my dad, I believe,
486
00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:40,959
"I really want to play the drums.
I really love the drums, dah, dah, dah."
487
00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:45,919
And it was shortly before Christmas,
I believe, and there it was.
488
00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:49,799
Christmas, his first set of drums.
That's all it's been since.
489
00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:53,279
Look at the blur of that stick, man.
I'm burning.
490
00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:57,519
I'm smiling here, and I usually don't smile.
I was happy, man.
491
00:34:57,600 --> 00:35:00,959
It was like I found something
that was going to work.
492
00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:05,639
Robb's father was in Auschwitz.
493
00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:09,999
He was young.
He was 15 years old at that time.
494
00:35:11,720 --> 00:35:16,079
He did anything and everything in the camp
495
00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:21,079
to get that piece of bread or...
He was a fighter.
496
00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:24,959
He was, you know, virtually,
"I'm going to die."
497
00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:29,399
In fact, when they liberated him, he was...
He said he was getting sick, right.
498
00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:32,799
But that's the kind of guy he was.
He came from...
499
00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:35,519
He was a fucking Hungarian Jew, man.
500
00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:39,359
That's where my roots come from.
501
00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:43,799
He was totally supportive, man.
His trip was just fucking,
502
00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:46,999
"You're happy, man, you're doing it,
I'm with you."
503
00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:54,399
My father was a jeweler,
504
00:35:54,480 --> 00:36:00,479
and he gave these to me
when I was 13 years old as a gift.
505
00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:04,799
I've never had them off my neck
since they were given to me.
506
00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:07,439
Except the odd time
I've had a few scraps with Lips
507
00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:12,039
and he's ripped them off my neck and stuff.
But I've always repaired it, you know.
508
00:36:18,720 --> 00:36:22,079
LIPS: The reality is that
we're not getting any younger.
509
00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:26,799
Time doesn't move backwards,
it moves forwards.
510
00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:29,479
Your belly gets bigger,
your face starts to sag,
511
00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:33,479
your hair falls out, you run out of time.
You've got to do it now.
512
00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:34,679
(CHUCKLES)
513
00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:40,639
You know, 20 years, 30 years, 40 years,
you're done.
514
00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:42,999
You know?
515
00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:46,319
We just got to get it done. I need to see...
516
00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:51,079
Personally, I always say "I", but for all of us,
I need to realise this while I can.
517
00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:53,839
- That's it.
- That's it. Just while I can.
518
00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:02,479
LIPS: You know, one of the main reasons
that I think that
519
00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:06,799
Anvil has never really gone anywhere
is our albums have sounded like crap.
520
00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:10,279
And we haven't sounded good
since Chris Tsangarides
521
00:37:10,360 --> 00:37:12,519
recorded us back in the early '80s.
522
00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:15,159
NARRATOR: One Toronto band
who lives and dies for their heroes
523
00:37:15,240 --> 00:37:18,679
of Judas Priest, Motorhead,
Iron Maiden and others, is Anvil,
524
00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:22,559
who may not be the prettiest band in town,
but, then again, never professed to be.
525
00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:23,999
(METAL ON METAL PLAYING)
526
00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:26,399
# Metal on metal
It's what I crave
527
00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:30,399
# The louder the better
I'll turn in my grave#
528
00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:32,519
NARRATOR: One of the things
Anvil has going for them
529
00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:34,679
that should help them gain respect
in the marketplace
530
00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:38,079
is that production of the new album
was handled by Chris Tsangarides.
531
00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:41,119
Chris, you've got quite a history of doing
heavy rock bands, I understand.
532
00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:42,999
Who are some of the other people
that you've been producing?
533
00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:46,199
The last thing I did was
Thin Lizzie's new album, Renegade.
534
00:37:46,280 --> 00:37:48,159
INTERVIEWER: Never having worked
with a Canadian band before,
535
00:37:48,240 --> 00:37:50,599
- how do you find the guys?
- Yeah, great. Really.
536
00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:56,999
Yeah, I think they have a lot of English
tendencies as opposed to Canadian,
537
00:37:57,080 --> 00:37:59,719
and I mean that
in the nicest possible way, musically.
538
00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:04,959
LIPS: At this point, I'll send him a demo tape
539
00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:08,599
and hope to hell
that he is interested enough
540
00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:13,839
and remembers us well enough
to get involved again.
541
00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:25,479
LIPS: Do you use pop or...
542
00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:28,759
- Pop.
- Pop?
543
00:38:29,240 --> 00:38:30,279
Yes.
544
00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:38,479
REINER: This is where I hang out sometimes,
you know.
545
00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:42,639
It's just the Robbo studio music area.
546
00:38:42,720 --> 00:38:46,079
This is where I hide from everybody,
you know.
547
00:38:46,160 --> 00:38:48,599
Nobody bothers me down here.
I hang out here.
548
00:38:48,680 --> 00:38:52,679
There's Anvil master tapes here,
but they're buried in all this junk.
549
00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:57,919
These pictures here,
nobody ever sees this stuff, you know.
550
00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:00,399
I like painting. I love to paint.
551
00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:04,199
This is in East Germany.
I forget the name of the town.
552
00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:07,919
It's on the back of the picture.
So I made a painting of it.
553
00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:09,559
I like buildings.
554
00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:15,519
There's a guy called Edward Hopper,
I love the guy's art style.
555
00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:17,159
I find it very appealing when
556
00:39:17,240 --> 00:39:21,519
you see a scene, but there's nobody in it.
I like that.
557
00:39:22,240 --> 00:39:24,239
It's a very quiet place, you know.
558
00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:38,079
That, right there, it's just a monument
of an anvil in a park.
559
00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:41,719
But look at the size of the people.
See, I made the scale like it's big.
560
00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:44,999
Right? Like the Egyptians would have,
like it's like a god.
561
00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:47,439
You know, "The god is there!"
562
00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:49,839
Anyways, that's what I was thinking.
563
00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:54,559
This picture is what I call Left Behind.
564
00:39:55,480 --> 00:39:58,399
This is what's left behind
when I'm not around no more.
565
00:39:58,480 --> 00:40:01,679
So, I kind of just thought
I'd paint myself out of it.
566
00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:16,359
Okay, now I will tell you
about The Grand Finale here.
567
00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:21,519
This baby comes from Europe.
The inspiration for this is totally German.
568
00:40:22,560 --> 00:40:27,359
If you touch or feel it or look at it,
it actually has texture.
569
00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:32,199
I thought it would be the place
to put it, obviously,
570
00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:35,839
because the wife definitely
didn't want it in the living room.
571
00:40:36,360 --> 00:40:38,559
ANSWERING MACHINE: Message one.
572
00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:41,399
Hey, Lips. Hey! It's CT here, man.
573
00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:43,199
I got the tape,
574
00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:48,879
and I'd like you to give me a call.
Call me here at my studio in Dover
575
00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:51,599
and we'll talk further. All right, dude.
576
00:41:00,720 --> 00:41:02,679
- CT!
- Hey, Lips!
577
00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:05,519
- How's it going, man?
- (LAUGHING) All right, dude, how are you?
578
00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:07,999
I'm doing good, man, how have you been?
579
00:41:08,080 --> 00:41:10,359
- Fucking A.
- Fucking A.
580
00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:12,519
(BOTH LAUGHING)
581
00:41:12,600 --> 00:41:14,639
It's fucking good to hear your voice, man.
582
00:41:14,720 --> 00:41:17,599
- And yours, too. Fuck, yeah.
- Fuck!
583
00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:22,279
Yeah, man, well, I listened to the tape
and, well, you know,
584
00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:24,559
I want to sit down and talk to you
at length about this
585
00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:28,319
but we need to sit down together
in the same room
586
00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:32,039
and we'll go through this shit first
but we've definitely got...
587
00:41:32,120 --> 00:41:35,359
- I think we've got something.
- That's really, really good news, man.
588
00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:43,999
Holy shit.
589
00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:49,239
- We have right now 19 songs written.
- TSANGARIDES: Right.
590
00:41:49,320 --> 00:41:52,679
We want to put 13 on this record
because this album's called This is Thirteen.
591
00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:55,439
- Right.
- The fact that we're still here
592
00:41:55,520 --> 00:41:58,239
doing it is almost...
It has its own energy now.
593
00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:00,559
- 30 years.
- I want to just, like, "Fuck it, man,
594
00:42:00,640 --> 00:42:02,719
"let's take what we've got
and let's fucking once and for all
595
00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:05,279
"try to get this channeled
in the right direction."
596
00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:11,959
TSANGARIDES: We need to find about
12,000, 13,000 to do it.
597
00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:17,119
With that minimal of investment,
we've got the potential, like you rightly say,
598
00:42:17,640 --> 00:42:20,279
to continue, and we own everything.
599
00:42:20,360 --> 00:42:23,719
You know what, guys, if this sells,
you know, we get so much.
600
00:42:23,800 --> 00:42:28,119
If it doesn't sell, what the fuck,
we've made a great record anyway,
601
00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:31,119
we don't owe anything to anybody.
I just have this feeling.
602
00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:32,879
I don't know why, I haven't got a clue.
603
00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:37,359
I just know that we should do it.
It's what we all do.
604
00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:39,519
Where does that leave us?
605
00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:41,639
MAN: It leaves you about to record
an album with CT.
606
00:42:41,720 --> 00:42:43,159
He's a genius.
607
00:42:50,120 --> 00:42:52,039
At this point, it looks like
I'm going to have to...
608
00:42:52,120 --> 00:42:54,999
We're going to have to take further steps.
609
00:42:55,080 --> 00:42:58,559
It's really bad because, of course,
this is an expense.
610
00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:04,119
We don't know whether to
take initiative now or wait.
611
00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:07,319
So much is riding on it.
612
00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:09,839
Here I've got this incredible opportunity
613
00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:14,199
to work with one of the world's greatest
producers and it costs a fortune.
614
00:43:17,160 --> 00:43:19,999
I have no idea where I'm going
to get that kind of money.
615
00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:23,799
(MAN SPEAKING)
616
00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:28,919
Why, they are stunning!
Did you know that 80%...
617
00:43:31,520 --> 00:43:33,759
...Ray bans or Gucci's, he's gonna see...
618
00:43:35,600 --> 00:43:38,159
Get outta town! Where the hell
did you get those glasses
619
00:43:38,240 --> 00:43:40,279
and where can I get a pair for myself?
620
00:43:41,720 --> 00:43:44,719
CUT LOOSE: You gotta be dedicated
and you gotta want it
621
00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:48,999
and if you're loud and enthusiastic
and energetic,
622
00:43:49,080 --> 00:43:51,679
you can make yourself
a shit whack of money here.
623
00:43:51,800 --> 00:43:55,479
Read the pitch word for word, okay?
That's what's going to make you money here.
624
00:43:55,560 --> 00:43:57,319
You read the pitch word for word.
625
00:43:57,400 --> 00:44:01,039
The pitch is designed basically
so that if a monkey could read,
626
00:44:01,120 --> 00:44:02,479
he'd make 600 bucks a week.
627
00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:04,839
Hello, may I please speak to Bob?
628
00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:09,239
Many a times as a fan, I've been there for him
629
00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:12,199
and now he's here for me
but he's also here for himself.
630
00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:13,919
Bob, these are gorgeous.
631
00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:18,199
They're made in Italy by RL.
They're called Vipers.
632
00:44:18,280 --> 00:44:22,399
These are identical to the ones Keanu Reeves
wore in the movie The Matrix.
633
00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:25,519
Absolutely gorgeous. Made in Italy by RL,
they're called the Vipers.
634
00:44:25,600 --> 00:44:28,279
They say they give you
a 45% better chance of getting laid.
635
00:44:28,360 --> 00:44:31,519
"I'm not calling to cost you money.
I'm calling to make you money.
636
00:44:31,600 --> 00:44:34,119
"Try not to at least talk me out of one box."
637
00:44:34,200 --> 00:44:35,279
(BELL RINGING)
638
00:44:35,360 --> 00:44:38,999
Come on, buddy, pull up your pants,
grab your balls and let's do this.
639
00:44:39,080 --> 00:44:41,359
- I'll tell you what I'll do for you.
- I'll tell you what I'll do.
640
00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:44,919
- I've got a guy doing a golf tournament.
- I've got a guy doing a golf tournament.
641
00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:47,399
- And he's doing a half a box and...
- And he's doing a half a box and...
642
00:44:47,480 --> 00:44:50,039
- Okay, okay.
- Don't take okay. What?
643
00:44:50,280 --> 00:44:52,479
LIPS: I've been trained
my whole life to be polite
644
00:44:52,560 --> 00:44:55,959
and that job does the exact opposite.
645
00:44:56,520 --> 00:44:59,159
You've got to go against everything
that you've learnt as a kid.
646
00:44:59,240 --> 00:45:00,319
MAN: So why are you doing it?
647
00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:03,079
LIPS: Because I thought that Lips,
the character Lips,
648
00:45:03,160 --> 00:45:06,039
would have no problem with doing it,
but as it turns out
649
00:45:06,120 --> 00:45:09,879
that guy is actually a lot more honest
than a telephone salesman.
650
00:45:09,960 --> 00:45:15,039
Hey, Bill, it's Steve Powers from R&J.
651
00:45:15,240 --> 00:45:16,279
(PHONE LINE DRONING)
652
00:45:16,360 --> 00:45:17,599
You know what?
'Cause I have one of my guys...
653
00:45:17,680 --> 00:45:24,279
LIPS: I worked there for a total
of probably 8 hours in 3 visits
654
00:45:24,840 --> 00:45:26,999
and I made nothing.
655
00:45:29,160 --> 00:45:30,519
I remortgaged my house...
656
00:45:30,600 --> 00:45:34,839
And I'm not the only one who sits
in a really, really... Whoa, okay.
657
00:45:34,920 --> 00:45:36,479
Really serious shit.
658
00:45:36,560 --> 00:45:38,599
Ivan has missed his mortgage payments.
659
00:45:38,680 --> 00:45:41,519
There may be a power of sale
on his home. Okay?
660
00:45:41,600 --> 00:45:43,279
Like, I'm not the only one.
661
00:45:43,360 --> 00:45:47,079
Glenn, G Five, he doesn't even have a home.
662
00:45:47,160 --> 00:45:50,319
All of his stuff is sitting in a garage. Okay?
663
00:45:50,400 --> 00:45:54,319
He rented a garage because
he hasn't got enough money to live.
664
00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:56,119
No one's getting paid.
665
00:45:56,200 --> 00:45:58,999
It's just, everybody believes in Lips.
666
00:45:59,080 --> 00:46:01,279
That's an incredible thing.
667
00:46:01,360 --> 00:46:07,599
Like a blind dedication
and I'm the only one who's got the vision.
668
00:46:07,680 --> 00:46:10,679
"Lips will take us there."
"I'm going to take you there, man."
669
00:46:10,760 --> 00:46:15,279
I've got this... It's been a year of it,
an absolute overwhelming year.
670
00:46:15,360 --> 00:46:16,799
I'm gonna fucking do it!
671
00:46:19,960 --> 00:46:22,439
That's what it is and that's why I'm here.
672
00:46:22,520 --> 00:46:24,759
I took the fucking risk, yeah.
673
00:46:25,560 --> 00:46:26,999
At what cost?
674
00:46:27,640 --> 00:46:30,519
So there's cliffs I can go jump off.
That's the easy way.
675
00:46:30,600 --> 00:46:33,959
Well, no, you won't jump off the cliff
'cause I'll stop you.
676
00:46:37,280 --> 00:46:40,199
- That's dedication, pal.
- Seriously.
677
00:46:45,880 --> 00:46:49,679
That's what's taken me 25, 30 years, man.
678
00:46:49,760 --> 00:46:52,199
Of having somebody dedicated to me.
679
00:46:52,280 --> 00:46:54,479
He believes in me.
680
00:46:54,560 --> 00:46:57,519
"Lips will get... Lips is my buddy, man.
681
00:46:57,600 --> 00:46:59,199
"He's going to take...
We're going to do it together.
682
00:46:59,280 --> 00:47:02,399
"We're gonna get there.
We're going to fucking do it."
683
00:47:02,480 --> 00:47:07,119
Since we were fucking 14 years old.
And here we sit in our fucking 50s, man.
684
00:47:07,960 --> 00:47:09,559
We're going to be rock stars.
685
00:47:09,640 --> 00:47:12,679
It's a fucking dream,
but I'm going to make it come true.
686
00:47:17,440 --> 00:47:20,759
He will always have
what he's done in the past,
687
00:47:20,840 --> 00:47:26,039
but you've got to... If it's over,
then you've got to find something else to do.
688
00:47:26,360 --> 00:47:29,599
He's got a son, he's got a wife,
he's got 2 stepdaughters, right?
689
00:47:29,680 --> 00:47:32,199
I mean, he's got a mortgage,
he's got this, he's got that.
690
00:47:32,280 --> 00:47:35,759
And Anvil, they tour, they don't make
a lot of money and, you know,
691
00:47:35,840 --> 00:47:41,479
he's basically telling me,
"It's got to happen or I'm done."
692
00:47:41,560 --> 00:47:47,999
Oh, yeah, someone has to stay home,
raising a child and work.
693
00:47:51,080 --> 00:47:55,559
I've been very patient as a wife.
How long is it gonna take?
694
00:47:56,240 --> 00:47:59,039
How long do I have to keep "waiting"?
695
00:47:59,120 --> 00:48:02,319
They've been working hard
to try and make things work
696
00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:07,119
and they're just not getting, I believe,
personally, what they deserve. That's all.
697
00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:18,559
- Merry Christmas.
- Merry Christmas.
698
00:48:19,240 --> 00:48:20,639
(CHATTERING)
699
00:48:26,440 --> 00:48:28,719
LIPS: I've always believed that
700
00:48:28,800 --> 00:48:31,399
no matter how hard it gets
or how impossible,
701
00:48:31,480 --> 00:48:34,079
there's always hope
and there's always a way.
702
00:48:35,440 --> 00:48:37,479
(LAUGHING)
703
00:48:40,760 --> 00:48:45,479
And the most incredible thing has happened.
My sister is actually gonna help me out.
704
00:48:45,560 --> 00:48:49,399
She's decided to actually lend us
the money to go do the album.
705
00:48:49,480 --> 00:48:54,119
She knows how important it is
right now in my life.
706
00:48:54,800 --> 00:49:00,999
And the time that this all is transpiring,
it's just an incredible, incredible thing.
707
00:49:02,560 --> 00:49:09,319
That I just wish him well
and I wish him success and happiness
708
00:49:09,960 --> 00:49:12,919
and that's all I've ever really wanted for him.
709
00:49:13,000 --> 00:49:16,839
He's my dear brother
and I've always loved him.
710
00:49:23,160 --> 00:49:24,559
LIPS: My sister.
711
00:49:24,640 --> 00:49:25,919
(KISSING)
712
00:49:32,200 --> 00:49:34,239
I got my big sister, man.
713
00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:37,479
Cool.
714
00:49:39,480 --> 00:49:42,559
- Family is important shit, man.
- Yeah.
715
00:50:24,760 --> 00:50:27,439
TSANGARIDES: If people looked inside
themselves a bit more
716
00:50:27,520 --> 00:50:29,879
and think, "Well, why didn't my record sell?"
717
00:50:29,960 --> 00:50:32,999
Well, maybe people didn't like it,
and that's the bottom line.
718
00:50:33,240 --> 00:50:35,759
The songs have not been up to muster.
719
00:50:36,520 --> 00:50:42,159
Okay, that's compounded
by having crappy record labels,
720
00:50:42,240 --> 00:50:46,119
crappy productions, no management,
no anything.
721
00:50:46,200 --> 00:50:49,119
Just a bunch of guys on their own
trying to do this.
722
00:50:49,200 --> 00:50:55,359
Now, I mean, I defy a lot of people
to get anywhere like this,
723
00:50:55,840 --> 00:50:57,199
but they stuck it through.
724
00:50:57,280 --> 00:50:58,359
They stuck it through
725
00:50:58,440 --> 00:51:01,439
and the fact that they managed
to get contact with me
726
00:51:01,520 --> 00:51:03,239
and I heard the stuff and thought,
727
00:51:03,320 --> 00:51:06,239
"You know what, there's something here.
We can do something with this."
728
00:51:08,520 --> 00:51:12,759
LIPS: To get an opportunity
at this point in time in history,
729
00:51:12,840 --> 00:51:15,359
I think, is nothing less than a miracle.
730
00:51:16,520 --> 00:51:18,919
- TSANGARIDES: Hello, brethren.
- CT vibes.
731
00:51:19,000 --> 00:51:21,959
TSANGARIDES: We have HM brethren here.
732
00:51:22,040 --> 00:51:23,439
(IMITATES DRUMS BEATING)
733
00:51:23,520 --> 00:51:25,759
- TSANGARIDES: Yeah.
- And then come in with it.
734
00:51:34,760 --> 00:51:36,079
(VOLUME INCREASES)
735
00:51:56,440 --> 00:51:58,439
This is a good, little,
fucking, catchy tune, man.
736
00:51:58,520 --> 00:52:03,359
I mean, it's straightforward metal rock.
It's maybe not even, like, metal.
737
00:52:03,440 --> 00:52:06,799
It could be in the pop, punk pop,
how about punk pop, metal?
738
00:52:06,880 --> 00:52:07,919
(BOMBS AWAY PLAYING)
739
00:52:08,000 --> 00:52:12,799
# Bombs away, bombs away
740
00:52:16,040 --> 00:52:19,039
# Bombs away
741
00:52:19,120 --> 00:52:20,359
# Shells explode
742
00:52:20,760 --> 00:52:23,839
# Flashing light, burning fires
743
00:52:23,920 --> 00:52:27,319
# Turn day to night, head on back
744
00:52:27,400 --> 00:52:30,519
# Reload bay, armed again
745
00:52:30,600 --> 00:52:32,119
# Bombs away
746
00:52:32,200 --> 00:52:34,439
# You don't stand a chance
747
00:52:34,680 --> 00:52:38,719
You know what, I'm doing some other stuff
that I wasn't anticipating.
748
00:52:38,800 --> 00:52:40,159
- TSANGARIDES: That's good.
- Okay.
749
00:52:40,240 --> 00:52:44,399
# Tarot cards and tea leaves
750
00:52:44,480 --> 00:52:47,679
# A crystal ball
751
00:52:49,520 --> 00:52:52,879
# Palm reading, candlelight
752
00:52:53,680 --> 00:52:57,159
# Fortunes to tell
753
00:52:57,880 --> 00:53:00,319
# Fear the unknown
754
00:53:03,560 --> 00:53:10,439
# Edge of your seat in anticipation
755
00:53:24,320 --> 00:53:26,839
LIPS: (SHOUTING) I don't know
what you want. What do you want?
756
00:53:26,920 --> 00:53:29,919
You sit here all fucking day, pouting,
"It's crap."
757
00:53:30,000 --> 00:53:31,959
- You're causing disruption.
- REINER: Let it all out.
758
00:53:32,040 --> 00:53:34,439
You'll fucking listen to me,
you fucking asshole.
759
00:53:34,520 --> 00:53:37,879
Look, you smile.
You're smiling at a fucking loser.
760
00:53:37,960 --> 00:53:39,159
You're a fucking loser.
761
00:53:39,240 --> 00:53:40,759
- Let it all out, man.
- That's what you are.
762
00:53:40,840 --> 00:53:43,319
- Let it all out.
- Calm down, guys. Come and sit down.
763
00:53:43,400 --> 00:53:46,079
It's destructive, it's negative energy.
764
00:53:46,840 --> 00:53:49,119
- What are you doing?
- I'm...
765
00:53:49,200 --> 00:53:52,079
You've got everything fucking going for you.
What are you doing?
766
00:53:52,160 --> 00:53:57,279
And everybody tells me that. You're right.
Everybody tells me that constantly.
767
00:53:57,360 --> 00:53:59,359
You're right. I agree. So maybe...
768
00:53:59,440 --> 00:54:01,199
So where are you going?
What are you doing?
769
00:54:01,280 --> 00:54:04,719
I'm going to go pursue something
a little bit more satisfactory
770
00:54:04,800 --> 00:54:07,359
than, I guess,
what's happening with you. Sorry.
771
00:54:07,440 --> 00:54:11,159
You push me away. I'm accepting your offer.
I'm on to the next page.
772
00:54:16,080 --> 00:54:18,919
Oy vey, why is this happening?
773
00:54:19,920 --> 00:54:23,399
I'm fucking sick of it.
I can't fucking deal with it.
774
00:54:23,480 --> 00:54:25,959
You know?
We're going to come apart at the seams.
775
00:54:26,040 --> 00:54:27,799
I don't know what's going to happen.
776
00:54:27,880 --> 00:54:31,999
I'm so fucking fed up,
like we've got to get a drummer.
777
00:54:35,600 --> 00:54:40,039
I mean, I don't know what to say. He's fired.
I mean, what can I say?
778
00:54:56,720 --> 00:54:59,519
That guy lives to hurt me, man,
779
00:54:59,600 --> 00:55:02,239
and be jealous. I don't even know
what the fuck is wrong with him.
780
00:55:02,320 --> 00:55:06,759
But he's fucking,
just lives to fucking hurt me.
781
00:55:06,840 --> 00:55:08,399
(COMMENTARY ON TV)
782
00:55:11,120 --> 00:55:15,759
I stayed dedicated to what?
Stayed dedicated to fucking what?
783
00:55:15,840 --> 00:55:17,159
(DOOR OPENS)
784
00:55:22,280 --> 00:55:25,319
First thing I want to say is I'm sorry, okay?
785
00:55:27,040 --> 00:55:28,199
Well, I would have liked to hear that...
786
00:55:28,280 --> 00:55:32,159
Okay. Just look at me. Look in my eyes.
I want to talk to you, Robb.
787
00:55:32,240 --> 00:55:34,719
I'm sorry. Do you understand that?
788
00:55:35,200 --> 00:55:38,839
I'm under a hell of a lot of stress, okay?
789
00:55:39,160 --> 00:55:44,039
If I lose my temper,
if anybody knows, you know.
790
00:55:44,840 --> 00:55:48,559
I'm tired of being the fall guy. Understand?
I'm tired of it, that's all.
791
00:55:48,640 --> 00:55:51,999
- I don't want negative energy around.
- Fuck you, man, there is no...
792
00:55:52,080 --> 00:55:53,159
- Yes, it is!
- I'm positive.
793
00:55:53,240 --> 00:55:56,879
Yes, it is, because negative energy
is when you say to me,
794
00:55:56,960 --> 00:56:00,599
"Oh, you do half- assed takes
and settle for it."
795
00:56:00,680 --> 00:56:05,039
That is a rude, underhanded, low blow
796
00:56:05,120 --> 00:56:08,399
because I could say the same thing
about your takes.
797
00:56:08,480 --> 00:56:13,159
I would never dare
because I don't feel that way.
798
00:56:13,240 --> 00:56:17,439
TSANGARIDES: Sit down, sit down,
let's try reasonable voices.
799
00:56:17,520 --> 00:56:23,159
So, what I can see going on here
is we're having a little bit of...
800
00:56:23,240 --> 00:56:26,879
When something is said, it's over amplified,
801
00:56:27,760 --> 00:56:32,839
and the recipient gets bent out of shape,
for whatever reason.
802
00:56:33,320 --> 00:56:37,839
Call it cabin fever, call it...
I don't know, it's academic now.
803
00:56:39,560 --> 00:56:41,199
I'm hard to live with.
804
00:56:41,880 --> 00:56:44,279
- TSANGARIDES: Fair enough.
- I'm hard to live with.
805
00:56:44,440 --> 00:56:46,119
(TSANGARIDES LAUGHING)
806
00:56:47,480 --> 00:56:49,759
- TSANGARIDES: Fair enough. Fair enough.
- You know?
807
00:56:51,120 --> 00:56:53,999
- I'm emotional. No doubt about it.
- TSANGARIDES: Yeah.
808
00:56:54,080 --> 00:56:56,799
But that's what makes you what you are.
It makes all of us what we are.
809
00:56:56,880 --> 00:56:58,959
REINER: Yeah, that's cool, man,
I know that's what you are, man,
810
00:56:59,040 --> 00:57:02,799
but the bottom line is,
why am I your fall guy constant- fucking- ly?
811
00:57:03,640 --> 00:57:05,879
- When I'm there for...
- Because I love you, that's why.
812
00:57:05,960 --> 00:57:08,159
REINER: Because I'm there for you
fucking constantly.
813
00:57:08,240 --> 00:57:12,439
TSANGARIDES: Well, he does. He does, man.
You want to hear what he says about you.
814
00:57:12,520 --> 00:57:14,439
You're my fucking brother, man.
815
00:57:18,080 --> 00:57:21,839
Who else can I fucking cry on their shoulder
or fucking say shit to?
816
00:57:21,920 --> 00:57:26,199
Who else? Who's the closest person
I've got in the world?
817
00:57:28,000 --> 00:57:30,319
- REINER: I know. I know.
- Think about that.
818
00:57:33,400 --> 00:57:37,519
Good.
819
00:57:37,600 --> 00:57:44,479
If I can't express myself
and blow up at you, what have I got? I...
820
00:57:45,200 --> 00:57:47,279
You're the closest person I have.
821
00:57:48,760 --> 00:57:49,959
Well...
822
00:57:51,520 --> 00:57:56,079
I'm sorry, I don't know what to say.
I'm sorry. I'm very sorry.
823
00:57:56,800 --> 00:58:02,199
Okay, fine. I hear you,
it's just been so much of it, dude.
824
00:58:02,280 --> 00:58:04,639
- It's just like, I don't know what the fuck...
- We're both stressed.
825
00:58:04,720 --> 00:58:07,119
I ain't stressed about nothing, man.
826
00:58:07,760 --> 00:58:08,919
- I get stressed...
- Well, I am.
827
00:58:09,000 --> 00:58:11,999
I get stressed when you start fucking
blowing it out on me, dude.
828
00:58:12,080 --> 00:58:13,959
Yeah, then I get stressed,
but otherwise I ain't stressed.
829
00:58:14,040 --> 00:58:16,039
I'm fucking going, "Let's go, boys.
830
00:58:16,120 --> 00:58:19,079
"Let's show the fucking world
and some of these assholes
831
00:58:19,160 --> 00:58:20,479
- "that they're wrong."
- TSANGARIDES: Exactly.
832
00:58:20,560 --> 00:58:24,279
Who is the one always driving that machine?
Robbo.
833
00:58:24,360 --> 00:58:26,359
If you look at it,
in the great scheme of things,
834
00:58:26,440 --> 00:58:32,239
it's a very, very tiny concern,
really, what we're talking about,
835
00:58:32,320 --> 00:58:36,759
and the reactions from everybody
were just a little bit excessive.
836
00:58:36,840 --> 00:58:40,439
Yeah. Totally. So...I need your support.
837
00:58:40,520 --> 00:58:44,599
I need your bloody faith
in what I'm gonna do
838
00:58:44,680 --> 00:58:48,399
to make this record sound like
the fucking dog's bollocks, and it will.
839
00:58:48,480 --> 00:58:51,959
Listen, man, I'm sorry, buddy. Okay?
Listen, I'm sorry.
840
00:58:52,040 --> 00:58:57,279
I love you, you know that. Okay?
We've got a long road ahead of us.
841
00:59:11,600 --> 00:59:16,839
LIPS: I still believe that there's
an overall feeling of something guiding us,
842
00:59:17,800 --> 00:59:22,559
an aura around us that protects
and keeps it going
843
00:59:22,640 --> 00:59:26,079
and I don't know what that is
or why it is or how it is.
844
00:59:26,560 --> 00:59:31,119
Whether it's bonding between Robb and I
from since we were kids.
845
00:59:31,200 --> 00:59:34,359
I don't know what it is
but it's like we're there for life.
846
00:59:37,880 --> 00:59:40,799
REINER: Yeah, we're family, man.
We're close buddies, man.
847
00:59:40,880 --> 00:59:43,079
Like any family,
we have our differences and stuff,
848
00:59:43,160 --> 00:59:46,879
but we've always been able
to work through that stuff.
849
00:59:50,480 --> 00:59:51,999
- Merlin did it.
- Merlin did it.
850
00:59:52,080 --> 00:59:55,559
Either that or Satan was running
all across the countryside
851
00:59:55,640 --> 00:59:57,799
and he dropped a few stones, right?
852
00:59:57,880 --> 01:00:00,519
He was high, man.
He was drinking or something.
853
01:00:01,720 --> 01:00:04,479
I want to touch it, man.
It has healing powers, they say.
854
01:00:04,560 --> 01:00:07,279
The healing powers is the stuff that I need.
855
01:00:29,680 --> 01:00:33,759
In the studio with me is Lips from Anvil
along with Chris Tsangarides,
856
01:00:33,840 --> 01:00:37,759
producer of This Is Thirteen,
the name of the brand- new Anvil CD.
857
01:00:37,840 --> 01:00:41,879
Welcome to California and welcome to KNAC.
Lips, what label will be putting this out?
858
01:00:41,960 --> 01:00:43,199
LIPS: That's a good question.
859
01:00:43,280 --> 01:00:47,119
Now that is going to be
the $64 question for This Is Thirteen.
860
01:00:47,200 --> 01:00:48,799
I'm looking for a manager.
861
01:00:48,880 --> 01:00:51,919
I'm looking for somebody
who will properly represent the band
862
01:00:52,000 --> 01:00:54,679
and get us out there playing
in the proper places.
863
01:00:54,760 --> 01:00:59,799
Get us with the proper record company
that's going to put our product out there
864
01:00:59,880 --> 01:01:02,359
for people to know that it's there.
865
01:01:02,440 --> 01:01:05,479
Tell you what, this is going to be not only
the world premiere here on KNAC.com,
866
01:01:05,560 --> 01:01:09,679
but world premiere here on the Vault.
This Is Thirteen.
867
01:01:09,760 --> 01:01:10,799
(THIS IS THIRTEEN PLAYING)
868
01:01:10,880 --> 01:01:13,879
# Tarot card and tea leaves
869
01:01:13,960 --> 01:01:17,359
# A crystal ball
870
01:01:18,120 --> 01:01:20,559
# The gypsy's kiss
871
01:01:22,240 --> 01:01:27,919
# The death card's call#
872
01:01:28,000 --> 01:01:34,199
I really feel that This Is Thirteen
is the best sounding Anvil album ever.
873
01:01:34,280 --> 01:01:36,519
And everything is riding on it.
874
01:01:36,600 --> 01:01:39,799
We're going to have all the record companies
that we can get
875
01:01:39,880 --> 01:01:43,799
listen to it and, hopefully,
they'll make bids on it.
876
01:01:43,880 --> 01:01:46,519
Hopefully we'll get
a real, proper record contract
877
01:01:46,600 --> 01:01:51,839
and, somehow, get someplace
in this godforsaken crazy business.
878
01:01:57,840 --> 01:01:59,839
- It's the new Anvil album.
- Yeah, I'll make sure he gets it.
879
01:02:20,480 --> 01:02:23,039
LIPS: Hopefully, we'll have
more luck back at home.
880
01:02:35,640 --> 01:02:37,599
- Hey! I'm doing okay.
- What's up?
881
01:02:39,600 --> 01:02:40,919
- I'm Fraser.
- Hi, Robb Reiner.
882
01:02:41,000 --> 01:02:42,759
- Robb, nice to meet you. Sit down, boys.
- Lips.
883
01:02:42,840 --> 01:02:45,479
REINER: You can make
lots of money with this band.
884
01:02:45,560 --> 01:02:48,359
Want to rock and make money.
There's nothing wrong with that.
885
01:02:48,440 --> 01:02:49,599
(LAUGHING)
886
01:02:49,680 --> 01:02:52,319
Okay, listen to number 13 first.
887
01:02:52,800 --> 01:02:54,399
(AMERICAN REFUGEE PLAYING)
888
01:03:06,680 --> 01:03:09,439
# Searching for a place to hide
889
01:03:09,520 --> 01:03:12,319
# Running from those you've defied
890
01:03:12,400 --> 01:03:14,839
# Forsaking the land of the free#
891
01:03:15,640 --> 01:03:16,799
(TURNS MUSIC OFF)
892
01:03:16,880 --> 01:03:19,039
It's a bit of a challenge, to be honest.
893
01:03:19,120 --> 01:03:21,759
'Cause the landscape has changed here
and it just has to...
894
01:03:21,840 --> 01:03:24,639
If it's going to work here,
it has to be the right fit.
895
01:03:24,720 --> 01:03:28,639
We've got to be able to give you guys
what you deserve and vice versa.
896
01:03:28,720 --> 01:03:30,959
A major label should put this out
897
01:03:31,040 --> 01:03:34,079
because it's not justice to have
something that sounds this good
898
01:03:34,160 --> 01:03:38,079
to go out on anything less than that.
Somebody better do this justice.
899
01:03:38,160 --> 01:03:42,559
It hurts so bad because everything else
was done so correctly
900
01:03:42,640 --> 01:03:44,559
and that's what was wrong
with Attic Records.
901
01:03:44,640 --> 01:03:47,559
It was the Metal On Metal
and the Forged In Fire albums.
902
01:03:47,640 --> 01:03:50,799
Those were classic albums,
they are classic albums
903
01:03:50,880 --> 01:03:54,399
but recorded for an independent
who fumbled the ball.
904
01:03:54,480 --> 01:03:55,759
The history speaks for itself.
905
01:03:55,840 --> 01:03:58,239
You've been around a long time
and that has currency.
906
01:03:58,320 --> 01:04:00,479
That says it all, doesn't it?
907
01:04:00,560 --> 01:04:05,599
It's due. I really will check it out
and listen to it and we'll see if it fits.
908
01:04:05,680 --> 01:04:07,359
But we definitely won't get into something
909
01:04:07,440 --> 01:04:11,879
we don't think we can do
what you guys deserve 'cause it's been,
910
01:04:12,920 --> 01:04:15,799
man, being 51 and doing this,
this is a real commitment.
911
01:04:15,880 --> 01:04:18,679
I mean, it's amazing. Thanks for coming by.
912
01:04:18,760 --> 01:04:21,799
- Thanks for having us.
- Really nice meeting you, man.
913
01:04:22,040 --> 01:04:24,559
- That's terrific. Thanks a lot.
- Have a great day.
914
01:04:24,640 --> 01:04:25,919
HILL: All right.
915
01:04:27,720 --> 01:04:30,079
He said your history is worth money.
916
01:04:31,120 --> 01:04:32,759
- Yeah. That's what he said.
- Yeah.
917
01:04:32,840 --> 01:04:34,799
He summed it up, basically,
"It doesn't matter what the fuck,
918
01:04:34,880 --> 01:04:38,199
"that's what you got, guys."
I don't give a fuck about anything else.
919
01:04:56,760 --> 01:04:58,559
(SIGHS) This is not good.
920
01:05:01,280 --> 01:05:03,919
REINER: I hate the fucking industry,
you know?
921
01:05:04,640 --> 01:05:07,559
It will never change. It will never get better.
922
01:05:08,240 --> 01:05:11,679
They're all fucking bottom- feeder,
pieces of fuck that run the thing.
923
01:05:11,760 --> 01:05:14,239
Organised criminals, you know.
924
01:05:14,320 --> 01:05:17,519
Drug fucking runners.
That's what's the business is about, right?
925
01:05:17,600 --> 01:05:19,239
I hate it, man.
926
01:05:20,200 --> 01:05:25,119
99.9% of the time, the guy never listens
to your fucking tape.
927
01:05:25,200 --> 01:05:30,159
And his desk is piled up like this
with other entries
928
01:05:30,440 --> 01:05:32,759
into the lottery of rock and roll.
929
01:05:32,840 --> 01:05:35,239
He's going to look at it, he goes,
"Let me see. What am I looking at?
930
01:05:35,320 --> 01:05:37,879
"Okay, these guys are in their 50s."
931
01:05:37,960 --> 01:05:41,559
And he's got another band that,
"Here, these guys are in their 20s. Hmm."
932
01:05:42,200 --> 01:05:44,999
I would like to see him make it.
933
01:05:45,080 --> 01:05:50,999
I would like to see him recognized,
his talent recognized by, you know...
934
01:05:52,880 --> 01:05:58,239
I know his peers do recognize it.
But I would like to see him
935
01:05:59,280 --> 01:06:02,799
become as famous as he's been trying
to become all these years.
936
01:06:03,120 --> 01:06:06,479
It's over. It's been over for a long time.
937
01:06:08,040 --> 01:06:11,399
And it's just too bad
no one's living in the real world.
938
01:06:11,480 --> 01:06:15,679
When you've been in a band for 30 years
and you have 13...
939
01:06:15,760 --> 01:06:18,999
They're working on their 13th album,
CD, whatever,
940
01:06:19,720 --> 01:06:25,239
and you can still only get 100 people
into a bar at any one time, it's a joke.
941
01:06:25,520 --> 01:06:28,559
- It's a joke.
- Well, we'll see. I mean, I don't...
942
01:06:28,640 --> 01:06:31,879
Like you said, it's just always a big,
"What if? What if?"
943
01:06:32,760 --> 01:06:35,159
And, unfortunately for them,
that's what it's been like.
944
01:06:35,240 --> 01:06:37,319
They've really never had a break.
945
01:06:37,400 --> 01:06:41,359
Maybe back in the '80s when they were on
with Bon Jovi or whatever.
946
01:06:41,440 --> 01:06:45,279
But I've just been trying to be that
supportive rock star wife, I guess,
947
01:06:45,360 --> 01:06:47,959
and I've maybe wanted to
live that dream as well.
948
01:06:48,040 --> 01:06:50,559
I like the scene, I like the music.
949
01:06:51,440 --> 01:06:55,159
I like the bands,
always liked the bands and the music.
950
01:06:55,720 --> 01:06:58,359
I just fell into that '80s scene and I liked it.
951
01:06:58,440 --> 01:07:02,039
I liked the hair, I still, the hair bands,
it's still me,
952
01:07:02,760 --> 01:07:06,119
and nowadays you just...
You keep dreaming that dream, but
953
01:07:07,560 --> 01:07:09,679
I'm still dreaming, I guess,
as much as what they are.
954
01:07:12,400 --> 01:07:16,079
The album is a success
whether it sells 10 or 10 million,
955
01:07:16,160 --> 01:07:21,319
it will make no difference to me on the level
of whether it was successful or not.
956
01:07:21,400 --> 01:07:23,119
It was successful because, to me,
957
01:07:23,200 --> 01:07:28,559
it sounds the best we've ever sounded
and that's a success.
958
01:07:36,040 --> 01:07:38,079
Voila, Anvil CDs, man.
959
01:07:38,680 --> 01:07:41,159
To mass- produce 1,000 CDs,
960
01:07:41,240 --> 01:07:46,759
you're looking at basically in around
a buck, a buck and a half per CD.
961
01:07:47,440 --> 01:07:48,839
LIPS: There it is, man.
962
01:07:49,720 --> 01:07:51,959
Wow. This Is Thirteen.
963
01:07:52,520 --> 01:07:53,799
People want this.
964
01:07:53,880 --> 01:07:57,159
We get e- mails and people freaking out,
"Where the fuck is this album?"
965
01:07:57,240 --> 01:07:59,959
So we got to get it out.
It's an amazing album. I love it.
966
01:08:00,040 --> 01:08:04,199
LIPS: There's no sense waiting
for some pitkins from a record company.
967
01:08:04,280 --> 01:08:05,639
It's pointless.
968
01:08:06,320 --> 01:08:08,919
We're selling it directly to our fans,
969
01:08:09,000 --> 01:08:11,439
who are the people that you did it for
to begin with,
970
01:08:11,520 --> 01:08:13,599
and now there's no one
in between you and them.
971
01:08:13,680 --> 01:08:15,799
I think it's the way to go.
I think it's the way to go
972
01:08:15,880 --> 01:08:19,839
that's going to be for all bands.
I mean, it's not like we're unknown.
973
01:08:19,920 --> 01:08:24,119
We've got a great head start
because we've been around for years,
974
01:08:24,880 --> 01:08:28,039
so I think, at a very minimum,
we're going to do okay.
975
01:08:30,160 --> 01:08:31,879
(SHOUTING)
976
01:08:45,240 --> 01:08:47,959
GINNY: The band is really...
It's more than just his career,
977
01:08:48,040 --> 01:08:50,439
but it still is, at the end of the day, his job.
978
01:08:51,160 --> 01:08:55,439
It defines a little bit of the person who he is,
but it's still the person.
979
01:08:55,520 --> 01:09:02,039
And even if the band doesn't go
or become famous or whatever,
980
01:09:02,120 --> 01:09:03,839
he's still the same person.
981
01:09:03,920 --> 01:09:07,599
And I'm in love with the person,
I'm not in love with the band.
982
01:09:08,080 --> 01:09:09,599
- How was skateboarding?
- Good.
983
01:09:09,680 --> 01:09:11,439
Good, bad, whatever. Okay.
984
01:09:11,920 --> 01:09:13,559
GINNY: Put your stuff down,
we ordered pizza, okay?
985
01:09:13,640 --> 01:09:14,799
Wow.
986
01:09:15,320 --> 01:09:17,519
GINNY: He's very focused on family.
987
01:09:17,600 --> 01:09:23,239
Whether I complain that he's not
or he's not, he really is.
988
01:09:23,320 --> 01:09:26,599
I think that's one of, maybe,
989
01:09:27,600 --> 01:09:32,399
a greatest criticism
and maybe why he withdraws from me
990
01:09:32,480 --> 01:09:36,599
is that when I criticize him,
and it has to do with family,
991
01:09:36,680 --> 01:09:39,119
he internalizes that way too much.
992
01:09:39,880 --> 01:09:42,679
And so that's...
993
01:09:43,400 --> 01:09:47,439
While the band is his dream
and a bit of who he is,
994
01:09:49,000 --> 01:09:51,559
I think even he knows at the end of the day
995
01:09:51,640 --> 01:09:53,919
that the family is what's important.
996
01:09:54,600 --> 01:09:56,279
Look what you made me do.
You made me cry.
997
01:09:56,360 --> 01:09:57,599
(LAUGHS)
998
01:10:08,920 --> 01:10:10,759
Got stuck in the tree.
999
01:10:11,680 --> 01:10:13,999
- Does that count as a point?
- No.
1000
01:10:16,080 --> 01:10:18,279
Oh, 3- 0.
1001
01:10:20,920 --> 01:10:22,679
(HEAVY METAL MOBILE PHONE RINGTONE)
1002
01:10:32,640 --> 01:10:35,199
Okay, thank you very much.
I'll speak to you soon.
1003
01:10:35,280 --> 01:10:37,239
I've got to call Robbo.
1004
01:10:37,800 --> 01:10:40,959
We just got a gig in Japan. I'm serious, man.
1005
01:10:42,080 --> 01:10:45,559
Fucking right. Okay, I'll speak to you after.
Right, bye.
1006
01:10:46,480 --> 01:10:48,079
Next, okay.
1007
01:10:49,360 --> 01:10:51,839
LIPS: We've sent the album out
all over the place
1008
01:10:51,920 --> 01:10:55,079
and this Japanese promoter heard it
and he's invited us to play
1009
01:10:55,160 --> 01:10:57,359
in this massive show in Tokyo.
1010
01:10:57,720 --> 01:11:00,559
See, everything turns into something else.
1011
01:11:01,000 --> 01:11:04,559
You get on the phone, and then,
all of a sudden, now we're busy.
1012
01:11:21,080 --> 01:11:24,559
It feels like an incredible force
of d�j� vu going on.
1013
01:11:24,640 --> 01:11:27,959
I feel like I've lived this moment
for sure before.
1014
01:11:28,040 --> 01:11:32,799
Last time I was here, I was in my 20s.
It's really hard to believe that,
1015
01:11:32,880 --> 01:11:36,439
fuck, a quarter of a century is gone
since I was last here.
1016
01:12:23,720 --> 01:12:26,119
It's good to be back,
but I find out from the promoter
1017
01:12:26,200 --> 01:12:28,519
that we're on at 11:35 a.m.
1018
01:12:31,880 --> 01:12:36,919
I came all this distance, did all...
Everything that it took to get here
1019
01:12:37,000 --> 01:12:40,799
and now what am I worried about?
Is anybody going to show up?
1020
01:12:42,400 --> 01:12:44,839
I've been in a situation where
1021
01:12:44,920 --> 01:12:50,199
I've had 5 people in a place that
holds 2,000 and it's not a good feeling.
1022
01:12:50,280 --> 01:12:51,439
It really isn't.
1023
01:12:51,520 --> 01:12:55,039
It would be very disappointing
if there's less than 500 people
1024
01:12:55,120 --> 01:12:58,919
because, from what I understand,
it's a very, very large place.
1025
01:13:01,120 --> 01:13:04,199
Listen, for me, I'll play for no one.
I don't give a shit.
1026
01:13:04,280 --> 01:13:09,319
I love to play, just to hear the sound
and create that vibe of being Anvil.
1027
01:13:09,400 --> 01:13:11,399
I live for that anyway.
1028
01:13:11,480 --> 01:13:15,919
But it's everybody else that goes with that.
1029
01:13:16,000 --> 01:13:20,519
The people that have spent the money
to bring you there and everything.
1030
01:13:20,600 --> 01:13:23,239
My heart goes out to that aspect, too.
1031
01:13:27,360 --> 01:13:31,159
What if no one gets there?
Shit, man, it's not a good thing.
1032
01:13:38,880 --> 01:13:40,039
Japan.
1033
01:13:44,360 --> 01:13:46,039
(SPEAKING JAPANESE)
1034
01:13:53,440 --> 01:13:55,839
(DRUMS REVERBERATING)
1035
01:14:03,280 --> 01:14:05,439
- Anvil!
- Anvil!
1036
01:14:05,520 --> 01:14:06,599
Anvil!
1037
01:14:06,680 --> 01:14:08,199
- Anvil!
- Anvil!
1038
01:14:12,720 --> 01:14:17,199
LIPS: A lot of times I close my eyes
during the show and I think about
1039
01:14:17,280 --> 01:14:21,279
the place is full and everybody's freaking out
1040
01:14:21,360 --> 01:14:24,999
and I try to pretend that it's all good
1041
01:14:25,080 --> 01:14:30,679
and I really deal with it afterwards
when a promoter comes up to me and goes,
1042
01:14:30,760 --> 01:14:36,439
"Well, Lips, I can't pay you
what we originally hoped to pay you."
1043
01:14:37,280 --> 01:14:42,039
So it would be a really sad moment,
I think, to come this distance
1044
01:14:43,040 --> 01:14:45,279
all for 5 people or something.
1045
01:14:51,640 --> 01:14:53,239
(CROWD CHEERING)
1046
01:15:03,000 --> 01:15:05,039
(PLAYING METAL ON METAL)
1047
01:15:28,960 --> 01:15:32,879
# Metal on metal
It's what I crave
1048
01:15:32,960 --> 01:15:36,999
# The louder the better
I'll turn in my grave
1049
01:15:37,080 --> 01:15:40,639
# Metal on metal
Ears start to bleed
1050
01:15:41,240 --> 01:15:45,119
# Cranking it up
Fulfilling my need
1051
01:15:53,400 --> 01:15:55,439
# Metal on metal#
1052
01:15:55,960 --> 01:15:57,399
Get them up!
1053
01:15:57,480 --> 01:15:59,399
# Metal on metal#
1054
01:15:59,480 --> 01:16:01,639
All the people back from the stage.
1055
01:16:01,720 --> 01:16:03,199
# Metal on metal
1056
01:16:05,440 --> 01:16:07,439
ALL: Metal on metal!
1057
01:16:09,200 --> 01:16:11,279
# Metal on metal
1058
01:16:11,360 --> 01:16:13,399
Come on, let me hear you!
1059
01:16:13,480 --> 01:16:19,559
# Metal on metal
Metal on metal
1060
01:16:20,800 --> 01:16:22,639
We love you, Japan!
1061
01:16:24,600 --> 01:16:26,319
(CROWD CHEERING)
1062
01:16:55,920 --> 01:16:57,799
LIPS: It goes far beyond
writing a good song.
1063
01:16:57,880 --> 01:17:01,639
It has nothing to do with the song.
It has to do with a matter of attitude,
1064
01:17:01,720 --> 01:17:05,239
what you're willing to settle for,
who you're willing to work with
1065
01:17:05,320 --> 01:17:07,839
and having a good time with my life,
enjoying my life.
1066
01:17:07,920 --> 01:17:10,119
That's the most expensive thing in life
1067
01:17:10,200 --> 01:17:14,319
and the most valuable things in life,
is your relationships,
1068
01:17:14,400 --> 01:17:17,559
the people that you know,
the places you've been
1069
01:17:17,640 --> 01:17:20,039
and the experiences you've had.
1070
01:17:30,600 --> 01:17:31,839
Oh, Godzilla!
1071
01:18:29,480 --> 01:18:32,519
LIPS: I started out with Robb
when I was 14, 15 years old
1072
01:18:32,600 --> 01:18:37,439
and we said, "We're going to do it till
we're old men." We really meant that.
1073
01:18:37,880 --> 01:18:42,759
We had that 15 minutes of fame
and then it's gone.
1074
01:18:42,840 --> 01:18:45,079
So that's the way I kind of look at it.
1075
01:18:45,160 --> 01:18:50,199
So I was lucky enough to have that moment,
and I've made, basically...
1076
01:18:51,280 --> 01:18:57,799
It was enough of a moment that it prolonged
and gave me a career that's 30 years long.
1077
01:18:57,880 --> 01:19:01,359
So it was a great achievement,
a fantastic achievement.
1078
01:19:01,440 --> 01:19:04,039
Nothing to ever look down at
or not to be proud of
1079
01:19:04,120 --> 01:19:05,559
and that's the way I really look at it.
1080
01:19:05,800 --> 01:19:11,319
You don't think about it. Life flies by, man.
That's all I'm learning here, you know.
1081
01:19:11,400 --> 01:19:15,399
Before you know it, life's done.
And it didn't seem that long.
1082
01:19:16,040 --> 01:19:19,319
That's what Robbo was learning
about a lot of things.
1083
01:19:19,400 --> 01:19:22,039
The music lasts forever.
1084
01:19:23,480 --> 01:19:26,279
Maybe the debt does, too,
but the bottom line is,
1085
01:19:26,360 --> 01:19:31,319
the music lasts forever and that's the art
and that's the most important thing.
1086
01:19:31,400 --> 01:19:35,799
There's tons of bands that can sell
millions of records, obviously,
1087
01:19:35,880 --> 01:19:38,279
but how many bands
can you think of, honestly,
1088
01:19:38,360 --> 01:19:40,919
that have stayed together for 30 years?
1089
01:19:41,000 --> 01:19:44,919
You've got a couple. You've got
The Rolling Stones, you've got The Who,
1090
01:19:45,000 --> 01:19:46,079
and you've got Anvil.