1 00:00:32,825 --> 00:00:34,115 Tremendous pleasure 2 00:00:34,285 --> 00:00:37,785 and honour to welcome the incredible, unique and fantastic 3 00:00:38,247 --> 00:00:40,287 one and only Nina Simone! 4 00:01:54,448 --> 00:01:55,568 Hello. 5 00:01:55,741 --> 00:01:57,031 Hi. We're ready. 6 00:02:09,255 --> 00:02:10,255 One, two, three. 7 00:02:15,761 --> 00:02:19,891 I haven't seen you for many years since 1968. 8 00:02:22,852 --> 00:02:26,692 I've decided that I will do no more jazz festivals. 9 00:02:27,690 --> 00:02:29,730 That decision has not changed. 10 00:02:31,861 --> 00:02:33,901 I will sing for you, 11 00:02:34,071 --> 00:02:38,121 or we will do and share with you a few moments, 12 00:02:39,160 --> 00:02:42,580 after which I shall graduate to a higher class, I hope, 13 00:02:43,622 --> 00:02:45,292 and I hope you will come with me. 14 00:02:46,876 --> 00:02:48,916 We'll start from the beginning, 15 00:02:51,255 --> 00:02:53,545 which was about a little girl, 16 00:02:55,217 --> 00:02:56,757 and her name was Blue. 17 00:03:59,990 --> 00:04:01,120 What's "free" to you? 18 00:04:01,450 --> 00:04:02,620 - What's "free" to me? - Yeah. 19 00:04:02,785 --> 00:04:04,655 Same thing it is to you. You tell me. 20 00:04:05,120 --> 00:04:06,620 No, you tell me. 21 00:04:07,122 --> 00:04:08,502 I don't know. 22 00:04:11,627 --> 00:04:13,207 It's just a feeling. 23 00:04:14,004 --> 00:04:15,804 It's just a feeling. 24 00:04:16,340 --> 00:04:17,800 It's like, "How do you tell somebody 25 00:04:17,967 --> 00:04:19,467 how it feels to be in love?" 26 00:04:19,635 --> 00:04:22,175 How are you going to tell anybody who has not been in love 27 00:04:22,721 --> 00:04:23,971 how it feels to be in love? 28 00:04:24,139 --> 00:04:25,979 You cannot do it to save your life. 29 00:04:26,141 --> 00:04:29,401 You can describe things but you can't tell them. 30 00:04:29,937 --> 00:04:33,817 But you know it when it happens. That's what I mean by "free". 31 00:04:33,983 --> 00:04:37,493 I've had a couple of times on stage when I really felt free! 32 00:04:37,695 --> 00:04:39,735 And that's something else. 33 00:04:39,905 --> 00:04:42,615 That's really something else! 34 00:04:42,866 --> 00:04:49,496 Like... I tell you what freedom is to me: no fear! 35 00:04:52,001 --> 00:04:54,801 I mean really, no fear. 36 00:04:56,130 --> 00:04:58,170 If I could have that... 37 00:04:58,924 --> 00:05:01,514 Half of my life... No fear. 38 00:05:57,024 --> 00:05:58,904 My mother was one of the greatest entertainers 39 00:05:59,068 --> 00:06:01,108 of all time, hands down. 40 00:06:01,945 --> 00:06:03,445 But she paid a huge price. 41 00:06:04,990 --> 00:06:07,330 People seem to think when she went out on stage, 42 00:06:07,576 --> 00:06:11,286 that was when she became Nina Simone. 43 00:06:11,663 --> 00:06:13,753 My mother was Nina Simone 24/7 44 00:06:14,124 --> 00:06:17,964 and that's where it became a problem. 45 00:06:53,497 --> 00:06:56,327 When she was performing she was brilliant. 46 00:06:56,750 --> 00:06:58,290 She was loved. 47 00:06:59,169 --> 00:07:00,919 She was also a revolutionary. 48 00:07:01,130 --> 00:07:03,970 She found a purpose for the stage, 49 00:07:04,133 --> 00:07:06,933 a place from which she could use her voice 50 00:07:07,094 --> 00:07:09,354 to speak out for her people. 51 00:07:19,273 --> 00:07:22,233 But when the show ended, everybody else went home. 52 00:07:22,776 --> 00:07:25,316 She was alone and she was still fighting. 53 00:07:26,447 --> 00:07:28,367 But she was fighting her own demons, 54 00:07:29,992 --> 00:07:32,202 full of anger and rage. 55 00:07:34,079 --> 00:07:35,909 She couldn't live with herself. 56 00:07:37,291 --> 00:07:39,131 And everything fell apart. 57 00:08:11,325 --> 00:08:14,495 Good evening. Our guest tonight is Nina Simone. 58 00:08:14,828 --> 00:08:17,828 Probably the foremost blues singer, jazz singer, 59 00:08:17,998 --> 00:08:20,328 singer of all songs in the United States today. 60 00:08:20,834 --> 00:08:24,214 Nina, are you happy with the kind of work you're doing? 61 00:08:24,713 --> 00:08:25,963 What makes me the happiest, 62 00:08:26,715 --> 00:08:29,885 is when I'm performing and there are people out there 63 00:08:30,052 --> 00:08:33,222 who feel with me and I know I touched them. 64 00:08:33,472 --> 00:08:35,312 But to be completely honest, 65 00:08:35,474 --> 00:08:38,104 the whole thing seems so much like a dream. 66 00:08:38,727 --> 00:08:41,227 I never thought I was gonna stay in show business. 67 00:08:42,022 --> 00:08:43,522 When I first got into show business 68 00:08:44,066 --> 00:08:46,936 I wasn't a blues singer and I wasn't even a jazz singer. 69 00:08:47,110 --> 00:08:48,530 I was a classical pianist. 70 00:08:49,321 --> 00:08:50,491 I studied to become 71 00:08:50,864 --> 00:08:53,834 the first black classical pianist in America. 72 00:08:54,034 --> 00:08:56,204 And that's all that was on my mind. 73 00:08:56,370 --> 00:08:58,410 That's what I was prepared to be. 74 00:09:00,582 --> 00:09:02,172 I was born Eunice Waymon, 75 00:09:02,334 --> 00:09:03,964 which is my real name, by the way, 76 00:09:04,169 --> 00:09:07,049 in a town called Tryon, North Carolina. 77 00:09:07,714 --> 00:09:11,344 I started to play the piano when I was three or four. 78 00:09:11,760 --> 00:09:13,800 My mother was a preacher 79 00:09:14,388 --> 00:09:17,928 and she took me with her on her revivals 80 00:09:18,392 --> 00:09:20,812 and I started to play the piano in church. 81 00:09:40,163 --> 00:09:41,293 Revival meetings were 82 00:09:41,456 --> 00:09:45,376 some of the most exciting times that I've ever had. 83 00:09:46,044 --> 00:09:50,924 The music was so intense you sort of went out of yourself. 84 00:09:51,091 --> 00:09:53,511 I felt it tremendously. And I was leading it. 85 00:09:55,345 --> 00:09:59,095 When I was seven, the choir of our church gave a programme 86 00:09:59,266 --> 00:10:00,386 at the local theatre. 87 00:10:00,601 --> 00:10:02,561 And I was on that programme. 88 00:10:03,020 --> 00:10:06,020 And I played some song, I don't remember what it was, 89 00:10:06,231 --> 00:10:10,191 and these two white women in the audience heard me. 90 00:10:10,360 --> 00:10:12,650 One of them was the woman that my mother worked for, 91 00:10:12,863 --> 00:10:16,243 and the other one was a music teacher, Mrs Mazzanovich. 92 00:10:16,491 --> 00:10:19,621 And they decided right then and there to give me lessons. 93 00:10:19,828 --> 00:10:22,038 And so, for five years after that, 94 00:10:22,331 --> 00:10:25,961 I studied classical piano with this teacher. 95 00:10:31,048 --> 00:10:33,758 I crossed the railroad tracks every weekend 96 00:10:33,925 --> 00:10:35,135 to get to Mrs Mazzanovich. 97 00:10:35,302 --> 00:10:36,552 And railroad tracks in the South 98 00:10:36,720 --> 00:10:39,060 were supposed to be dividing the blacks from the whites. 99 00:10:39,222 --> 00:10:40,222 Well, it really did. 100 00:10:41,266 --> 00:10:42,266 I was so scared. 101 00:10:43,393 --> 00:10:45,603 Mrs Mazzanovich frightened me. 102 00:10:46,146 --> 00:10:50,976 It was her being white in the sense that I had never seen. 103 00:10:51,151 --> 00:10:52,361 She was alien to me. 104 00:10:52,861 --> 00:10:56,821 Her white hair, the combs in it, her pleasantness... 105 00:10:57,407 --> 00:10:58,657 I loved that. 106 00:10:59,326 --> 00:11:01,406 She started me on... Bach. 107 00:11:01,662 --> 00:11:03,752 And this Bach... I liked him. 108 00:11:09,169 --> 00:11:12,169 Mrs Mazzanovich had it in her mind that I was going to be 109 00:11:12,339 --> 00:11:14,969 one of the world's greatest concert pianists. 110 00:11:15,550 --> 00:11:18,970 So it was all very disciplined classical music. 111 00:11:19,221 --> 00:11:22,681 Bach, Beethoven, Debussy, Brahms, you name it. 112 00:11:23,475 --> 00:11:26,015 Then Mrs Mazzanovich got a fund together, 113 00:11:26,186 --> 00:11:27,646 "Eunice Waymon fund". 114 00:11:27,854 --> 00:11:29,904 And I gave lots of recitals. 115 00:11:30,107 --> 00:11:32,607 They would take up collection to further my education 116 00:11:32,776 --> 00:11:34,146 after I'd have left her. 117 00:11:35,612 --> 00:11:38,702 Mommy took to all the training like a fish to water, 118 00:11:39,116 --> 00:11:40,906 but it was a double-edged sword. 119 00:11:41,159 --> 00:11:42,199 She had a very lonely life 120 00:11:42,327 --> 00:11:45,247 because she was practising seven, eight hours a day. 121 00:11:46,039 --> 00:11:47,869 When I first started to take lessons, 122 00:11:48,041 --> 00:11:51,591 I became terribly aware of how isolated I was 123 00:11:52,087 --> 00:11:53,707 from the other children. 124 00:11:53,880 --> 00:11:55,510 And how isolated I was 125 00:11:55,882 --> 00:11:58,892 from the white community and the negro community. 126 00:11:59,052 --> 00:12:03,142 I felt it, all the time, even when the kids played with me. 127 00:12:03,306 --> 00:12:06,226 They always wanted me just to play piano for them to dance 128 00:12:06,601 --> 00:12:09,021 I wasn't asked too much to do anything else. 129 00:12:09,521 --> 00:12:11,611 That was very hard. 130 00:12:13,567 --> 00:12:17,277 Part of that isolation, was the thing about colour. 131 00:12:18,071 --> 00:12:21,201 I was a black girl and I knew about it, and I lived in it. 132 00:12:21,491 --> 00:12:23,331 I lived in the South for 17years. 133 00:12:24,828 --> 00:12:27,578 My mom rarely referred to Jim Crow and segregation 134 00:12:27,748 --> 00:12:29,918 and a lot of the racial issues that were going on 135 00:12:30,083 --> 00:12:31,923 at that stage in her life. 136 00:12:32,711 --> 00:12:36,051 She did tell me about times when they told her nose was too big, 137 00:12:36,214 --> 00:12:38,184 her lips were too full and her skin was too dark. 138 00:12:39,176 --> 00:12:41,256 And after she was told that, they probably told her, 139 00:12:41,678 --> 00:12:44,308 "There's only certain things you'll be good for in life." 140 00:12:45,599 --> 00:12:46,849 What I knew, I knew. 141 00:12:47,476 --> 00:12:50,936 We weren't allowed to mention anything racial in our house. 142 00:12:51,104 --> 00:12:53,824 I wasn't consciously dealing with race. 143 00:12:54,191 --> 00:12:58,611 That wasn't consciously on my mind at all. Until years later. 144 00:13:03,909 --> 00:13:05,989 After I graduated from high school, 145 00:13:06,161 --> 00:13:09,711 the money that had been saved from the Eunice Waymon Fund 146 00:13:09,873 --> 00:13:14,673 sent me to New York, to Juilliard for a year and a half. 147 00:13:15,754 --> 00:13:18,474 Then I applied for a scholarship 148 00:13:18,632 --> 00:13:21,642 to Curtis Institute of Music in Philadelphia. 149 00:13:22,010 --> 00:13:25,640 I was playing Czerny and Liszt, Rachmaninoff and Bach. 150 00:13:26,389 --> 00:13:30,599 I knew I was good enough but they turned me down. 151 00:13:31,061 --> 00:13:33,691 It took me about six months 152 00:13:33,855 --> 00:13:36,185 to realise it was because I was black. 153 00:13:36,942 --> 00:13:42,992 I never really got over that jolt of racism at the time. 154 00:13:45,742 --> 00:13:47,292 Then the money ran out 155 00:13:47,619 --> 00:13:50,619 and the reality hit me that I had to go to work. 156 00:13:50,872 --> 00:13:55,542 My parents had moved the family to Philadelphia to be near me. 157 00:13:56,086 --> 00:13:58,876 And my family is very poor, so I had to work. 158 00:13:59,339 --> 00:14:00,969 What else was there for me to do? 159 00:14:01,758 --> 00:14:04,888 I got myself a job in Atlantic City for a summer. 160 00:14:05,428 --> 00:14:06,808 It was a very crummy bar. 161 00:14:08,557 --> 00:14:12,517 I used to go in evening gowns. I didn't know any better. 162 00:14:12,978 --> 00:14:15,268 I played everything that I could think of. 163 00:14:15,480 --> 00:14:18,900 Pop songs, classical, spirituals, all kinds of things. 164 00:14:19,109 --> 00:14:20,739 It was very strange. 165 00:14:21,194 --> 00:14:22,864 And I had never sung before. 166 00:14:23,530 --> 00:14:25,950 The owner came in the second night and told me 167 00:14:26,116 --> 00:14:28,486 if I wanted to keep the job, I had to sing. 168 00:14:31,538 --> 00:14:35,748 $90 was more money than I had ever heard of in my life. 169 00:14:35,917 --> 00:14:38,837 So I said: "Well, I'll sing." Ever since I've been singing. 170 00:14:42,465 --> 00:14:45,965 Eunice Waymon was playing in bars to support her family 171 00:14:46,136 --> 00:14:49,846 and to have money to continue her classical piano training. 172 00:14:50,599 --> 00:14:52,349 Since she didn't want her mother to know 173 00:14:52,517 --> 00:14:55,977 that she was playing the "devil's music" in bars, 174 00:14:56,605 --> 00:14:58,565 she changed her name. 175 00:14:58,857 --> 00:15:00,937 Eunice Waymon became Nina Simone. 176 00:15:02,694 --> 00:15:05,454 She named herself "Niña", meaning "little one". 177 00:15:05,906 --> 00:15:07,946 She had a boyfriend who called her "Niña", 178 00:15:08,116 --> 00:15:11,996 and "Simone" came from the French actress Simone Signoret. 179 00:15:13,872 --> 00:15:15,422 I didn't want my mother to find out. 180 00:15:15,582 --> 00:15:17,212 I knew she would hate it. 181 00:15:17,500 --> 00:15:21,130 I kept it from her for a long, long time. 182 00:15:22,631 --> 00:15:24,671 Was it lonely for a young girl entertaining 183 00:15:24,841 --> 00:15:25,881 in these strange bars? 184 00:15:26,051 --> 00:15:27,721 Extremely. Extremely lonely. 185 00:15:27,886 --> 00:15:29,716 Working peculiar hours, I imagine. 186 00:15:29,888 --> 00:15:31,968 12:00 midnight till 7:00 in the morning. 187 00:15:32,140 --> 00:15:35,100 - It ruined your social life. - Never had much of one. 188 00:15:35,268 --> 00:15:37,848 - Why did you keep on with it? - I couldn't help it. 189 00:15:38,313 --> 00:15:41,573 I have to play and I needed money. 190 00:15:41,858 --> 00:15:44,648 It was always a matter of necessity 191 00:15:44,819 --> 00:15:46,909 from day to day what I am going to do... 192 00:15:47,072 --> 00:15:49,224 I didn't even know I was going to stay in show business. 193 00:15:49,324 --> 00:15:51,624 I never thought about a choice. 194 00:16:01,711 --> 00:16:02,696 From the beginning, 195 00:16:02,796 --> 00:16:05,376 I felt there was something eating at her. 196 00:16:06,091 --> 00:16:08,471 You know, "What's eating at you, Nina?" 197 00:16:12,013 --> 00:16:14,103 Gradually that got stronger. 198 00:16:32,575 --> 00:16:34,655 The first time I played with Nina, 199 00:16:34,828 --> 00:16:37,408 it was the summer of 1957 200 00:16:37,580 --> 00:16:40,250 at a restaurant in New Hope, Pennsylvania. 201 00:16:40,750 --> 00:16:41,920 She didn't look at me, 202 00:16:42,293 --> 00:16:45,383 said nothing as if I wasn't even there, 203 00:16:45,547 --> 00:16:48,507 and started in on a song. 204 00:16:49,050 --> 00:16:50,744 She never told me what key she was going to be in. 205 00:16:50,844 --> 00:16:54,850 She started playing and I knew exactly where I was going to go with it. 206 00:16:55,223 --> 00:16:58,603 It was like we had a telepathic relationship. 207 00:16:58,768 --> 00:17:01,228 Before you knew it, we were just weaving in and out 208 00:17:01,479 --> 00:17:02,769 And then she looked up. 209 00:17:13,616 --> 00:17:17,446 Al Schackman is a terribly sensitive, creative man. 210 00:17:17,620 --> 00:17:18,830 He has perfect pitch, 211 00:17:18,997 --> 00:17:21,327 which means that no matter what key I'm in, 212 00:17:21,499 --> 00:17:23,879 he's able to adapt himself immediately. 213 00:17:24,210 --> 00:17:25,403 'Cause I do that all the time. 214 00:17:25,503 --> 00:17:27,513 I change the key in the middle of a tune. 215 00:17:30,842 --> 00:17:35,682 Nina had a wonderful way of taking a piece of music and... 216 00:17:36,222 --> 00:17:40,942 not interpreting it but metamorphosising it. 217 00:17:41,311 --> 00:17:46,021 You know, morphing it into her experience. 218 00:17:54,574 --> 00:17:56,744 What I was interested in was conveying 219 00:17:56,993 --> 00:17:58,623 an emotional message, 220 00:17:58,787 --> 00:18:01,367 which means using everything you've got inside you 221 00:18:01,539 --> 00:18:04,329 sometimes to barely make a note 222 00:18:04,501 --> 00:18:06,591 or if you have to strain to sing, you sing. 223 00:18:06,795 --> 00:18:08,875 Sometimes I sound like gravel 224 00:18:09,047 --> 00:18:11,797 and sometimes I sound like coffee and cream. 225 00:18:33,363 --> 00:18:38,793 When I first saw Nina at my club in 1959, I was impressed. 226 00:18:38,952 --> 00:18:40,292 She was different. 227 00:18:40,620 --> 00:18:43,040 She mixed in folk music with jazz. 228 00:18:43,373 --> 00:18:45,463 She played very fine piano. 229 00:18:45,625 --> 00:18:48,625 Her voice was totally different from anybody else. 230 00:18:49,170 --> 00:18:53,130 It was a woman's voice but it had the depth of a baritone. 231 00:18:54,092 --> 00:18:57,552 That depth and that darkness carried the insight 232 00:18:57,720 --> 00:18:59,970 of what was in Nina's soul. 233 00:19:01,224 --> 00:19:03,104 And it reached you very quickly. 234 00:19:24,914 --> 00:19:28,084 She was an artist. She was an original artist. 235 00:19:28,668 --> 00:19:31,298 So we paid attention and in 1960, 236 00:19:31,462 --> 00:19:33,382 I put her on the Newport Jazz Festival. 237 00:19:33,673 --> 00:19:35,763 And she was a hit there. 238 00:20:02,994 --> 00:20:04,664 Her sound is so original 239 00:20:05,079 --> 00:20:06,329 When she first appeared, 240 00:20:06,664 --> 00:20:08,294 she was one of those musicians... 241 00:20:09,459 --> 00:20:11,629 Once... you don't have to hear them much. 242 00:20:11,794 --> 00:20:14,714 If you hear them once, the next time you hear them you say: 243 00:20:14,881 --> 00:20:17,131 "Oh, that's that same one I heard last week. 244 00:20:17,550 --> 00:20:19,590 Nobody sounds like that except her." 245 00:20:27,268 --> 00:20:29,558 At Newport, she was sitting on a high stool 246 00:20:29,729 --> 00:20:31,019 with a tambourine. 247 00:20:31,189 --> 00:20:32,359 I was in the back. 248 00:20:32,607 --> 00:20:35,187 She wasn't sure she wanted to go through with it. 249 00:20:35,610 --> 00:20:38,030 If I remember right, she was a little, you know... 250 00:20:38,196 --> 00:20:39,696 "What am I doing here?" 251 00:20:39,864 --> 00:20:42,454 I said: "You're here because you belong here." 252 00:20:50,583 --> 00:20:53,003 She said: "OK, Al, but you'd better play." 253 00:20:54,003 --> 00:20:55,713 I said: "Don't worry, I'll play." 254 00:21:03,346 --> 00:21:06,846 Then, if you watch during her performance of "Little Liza", 255 00:21:07,016 --> 00:21:09,136 she has that little smile from time to time. 256 00:21:10,728 --> 00:21:12,308 She let go and it was really cute. 257 00:21:22,031 --> 00:21:24,371 Then I recorded seven or eight tunes 258 00:21:24,534 --> 00:21:26,244 I had been doing all those years 259 00:21:26,703 --> 00:21:29,713 and of course the public picked out "I Loves You Porgy". 260 00:21:29,872 --> 00:21:32,962 It was not pushed or promoted to be a hit at all. 261 00:21:42,885 --> 00:21:45,505 - Girls! Don! Hi. - Hi, Hugh, nice to see you. 262 00:21:45,680 --> 00:21:46,510 Real great. 263 00:21:46,681 --> 00:21:49,311 Eleanor, you wanna take Don's coat here? 264 00:21:49,475 --> 00:21:51,845 Maybe you can show the girls where the powder room is, 265 00:21:52,020 --> 00:21:53,004 the bedroom. 266 00:21:53,104 --> 00:21:54,104 Hello there. 267 00:21:54,522 --> 00:21:56,174 Very nice to have you with us this evening. 268 00:21:56,274 --> 00:21:57,444 This is Playboy's Penthouse, 269 00:21:57,608 --> 00:22:00,358 and I'm Hugh Hefner, editor publisher of Playboy Magazine. 270 00:22:02,405 --> 00:22:06,025 I'd like you to meet someone most of you know, Nina Simone. 271 00:22:06,534 --> 00:22:10,714 She came out of nowhere in the last year as a recording star. 272 00:22:11,122 --> 00:22:13,622 She has a very big record, "Porgy" 273 00:22:13,791 --> 00:22:15,511 that is breaking all kinds of sales records. 274 00:22:16,002 --> 00:22:17,382 We're very happy she could join us 275 00:22:17,545 --> 00:22:19,072 - tonight on Playboy's Penthouse - Thanks. 276 00:22:19,172 --> 00:22:21,922 She's gonna play and sing a little bit now with her group. 277 00:22:26,929 --> 00:22:28,179 You want to hear "Porgy"? 278 00:22:28,473 --> 00:22:29,723 - Very much. - Right. 279 00:22:29,891 --> 00:22:31,521 Good. That's what we'll do. 280 00:23:46,300 --> 00:23:48,890 Nina, there's a man named Andy Stroud. 281 00:23:49,053 --> 00:23:52,063 He walked into your life and he became a permanent part. 282 00:23:52,265 --> 00:23:53,595 How did you meet your husband? 283 00:23:53,808 --> 00:23:56,018 He came to see me at a nightclub 284 00:23:56,185 --> 00:23:59,435 and a mutual friend introduced us. 285 00:24:00,022 --> 00:24:04,442 Nina came to the table and sat. I was eating a Hamburger plate 286 00:24:04,610 --> 00:24:07,490 and there were fries and she dipped into them. 287 00:24:07,697 --> 00:24:09,987 She wanted to know if it was OK. I said: "All right." 288 00:24:10,783 --> 00:24:15,123 We got cute and then she gave me that card with a note on it. 289 00:24:15,413 --> 00:24:19,833 Then I went to see her, at her place in the next day or two. 290 00:24:39,353 --> 00:24:42,523 How did you know Andy Stroud was to be your husband 291 00:24:42,690 --> 00:24:45,650 and not just another guy out for a date or something else? 292 00:24:46,777 --> 00:24:48,397 That's a hard question. 293 00:24:48,696 --> 00:24:51,986 He told me that he'd wanted to meet me for a long time. 294 00:24:52,408 --> 00:24:54,948 And he had come for me. I fell in love with him. 295 00:24:55,286 --> 00:24:57,956 Then later, he scared me to death, he was so... 296 00:24:58,164 --> 00:25:03,884 You know, he knew what he wanted and he just took over 297 00:25:06,589 --> 00:25:08,219 He abandoned his own career 298 00:25:08,382 --> 00:25:11,262 as a sergeant of the police department to manage me. 299 00:25:11,469 --> 00:25:13,469 For the first time, I knew what it was 300 00:25:13,638 --> 00:25:15,718 not to be just floundering out there. 301 00:25:34,367 --> 00:25:36,407 I just remember meeting Andy. 302 00:25:36,744 --> 00:25:41,834 He was a tough New York vice squad cop. 303 00:25:43,793 --> 00:25:47,173 When he stepped out of his car uptown, people ran. 304 00:25:48,548 --> 00:25:53,138 He had a way of just saying one word. 305 00:25:53,469 --> 00:25:54,469 "Hey." 306 00:25:55,221 --> 00:25:58,431 And that could put a lot of fear in people. 307 00:25:58,766 --> 00:26:02,516 But Andy and Nina married in 1961. 308 00:26:02,853 --> 00:26:06,233 He retired from the police force and became her manager. 309 00:26:06,399 --> 00:26:07,569 And he did well for her. 310 00:26:07,858 --> 00:26:11,028 They bought a beautiful house in Mount Vernon, New York. 311 00:26:11,195 --> 00:26:15,945 We had a 13-room house, four acres of land, a lot of trees. 312 00:26:48,774 --> 00:26:51,404 Lisa was born nine months later. 313 00:26:51,569 --> 00:26:55,109 The first three hours after Lisa was born 314 00:26:55,281 --> 00:26:57,121 were the most peaceful in my life. 315 00:26:57,408 --> 00:26:59,828 And I was in love with the world. 316 00:27:00,286 --> 00:27:01,326 Andrew was there. 317 00:27:01,495 --> 00:27:03,285 He was sitting right there and he said: 318 00:27:03,497 --> 00:27:05,747 I said, "How is the baby?" He says: "How is the mother?" 319 00:27:05,916 --> 00:27:07,246 I loved him for that. 320 00:27:07,918 --> 00:27:10,958 I loved being a mother. I was a good mother. 321 00:27:11,672 --> 00:27:13,422 I was a goddamn good mother. 322 00:27:15,217 --> 00:27:17,177 I remember our house in Mount Vernon 323 00:27:17,345 --> 00:27:18,635 like the back of my hand. 324 00:27:18,804 --> 00:27:20,104 It was like a fairy tale. 325 00:27:20,306 --> 00:27:22,806 I remember seeing the paisley on the walls. 326 00:27:22,975 --> 00:27:24,385 The walls were kind of like a.. 327 00:27:25,978 --> 00:27:28,188 They were hued in gold but it really wasn't gold. 328 00:27:28,356 --> 00:27:30,066 It was more like a muted gold 329 00:27:30,274 --> 00:27:31,784 But it felt like it was velvet. 330 00:27:31,942 --> 00:27:36,362 I'd always run my hands over the walls because it was textured. 331 00:27:36,947 --> 00:27:39,117 And my mom had a cold storage 332 00:27:39,283 --> 00:27:43,623 where she kept her fur coats and her costumes. 333 00:27:43,788 --> 00:27:45,078 So I was always in there. 334 00:27:45,706 --> 00:27:47,496 These were the good, sweet days. 335 00:27:47,667 --> 00:27:49,457 We were building and growing together. 336 00:27:58,969 --> 00:28:03,929 I had an overall plan to develop and create her as an artist. 337 00:28:04,100 --> 00:28:07,850 I had set up an office at 5th Avenue and 42nd Street. 338 00:28:08,062 --> 00:28:09,942 I had a publicist. 339 00:28:10,106 --> 00:28:12,816 I had a guy who was a record promotion man 340 00:28:12,983 --> 00:28:14,443 from Atlantic Records. 341 00:28:14,944 --> 00:28:19,324 I had another fellow who did the college radio station promotion 342 00:28:19,615 --> 00:28:21,525 and a photographer. 343 00:28:22,201 --> 00:28:23,951 Dad was the original Puff Daddy. 344 00:28:24,161 --> 00:28:28,171 He really had a vision and he was a very astute businessman. 345 00:28:28,833 --> 00:28:31,673 And of course, she was burning to get on to the Carnegie Hall. 346 00:28:31,877 --> 00:28:34,257 She had trained as a classical pianist 347 00:28:34,422 --> 00:28:38,932 with the one thought in mind of being the first black female 348 00:28:39,176 --> 00:28:41,926 classical pianist to appear at Carnegie Hall. 349 00:28:42,346 --> 00:28:44,266 That was her prime objective. 350 00:28:46,517 --> 00:28:49,557 However, none of the New York city promoters 351 00:28:49,729 --> 00:28:51,899 would undertake this project. 352 00:28:52,231 --> 00:28:56,071 So, I took my own money to promote the appearance. 353 00:28:57,820 --> 00:29:01,990 She was ecstatic. I mean, she was out of her mind with joy. 354 00:29:04,618 --> 00:29:06,604 You apparently wrote a letter to your parents saying: 355 00:29:06,704 --> 00:29:08,964 "This is where you wanted me to play 356 00:29:09,165 --> 00:29:11,325 but I should have been playing Bach." 357 00:29:11,500 --> 00:29:14,750 This was your glory occasion but you were still disappointed? 358 00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:17,130 Well, I loved the audience, 359 00:29:17,298 --> 00:29:21,008 but I wasn't playing classical music and I wanted to be. 360 00:29:21,177 --> 00:29:24,347 So I wrote: "Yes, I'm in Carnegie Hall, finally, 361 00:29:24,513 --> 00:29:26,853 but I'm not playing Bach." 362 00:30:23,906 --> 00:30:25,366 After Carnegie Hall, 363 00:30:25,533 --> 00:30:28,333 she was getting airplay all over the country, 364 00:30:28,494 --> 00:30:31,124 magazine, pictures and stories. 365 00:30:39,088 --> 00:30:42,678 She became highly successful and recognised. 366 00:30:45,469 --> 00:30:47,849 - Oh! Thank you very much! - Meeting in Japan. 367 00:30:48,222 --> 00:30:50,682 A young woman who's made a very emphatic name for herself... 368 00:30:50,850 --> 00:30:52,770 An accomplished pianist and distinctive... 369 00:30:52,935 --> 00:30:54,655 who's now become a rather famous artist. 370 00:30:54,812 --> 00:30:57,062 ...a remarkable blues-soul sound. 371 00:30:57,273 --> 00:30:59,073 For the first time on British television, 372 00:30:59,233 --> 00:31:00,783 the High Priestess of soul. 373 00:31:00,943 --> 00:31:02,033 An exceptional singer. 374 00:31:02,194 --> 00:31:04,074 - Nina Simone. - Nina Simone. 375 00:31:04,238 --> 00:31:05,238 Nina Simone. 376 00:31:09,285 --> 00:31:10,785 Miss Simone brings to her music 377 00:31:10,953 --> 00:31:13,333 a kind of technique and discipline 378 00:31:13,497 --> 00:31:15,537 we generally associate with classical music. 379 00:31:15,708 --> 00:31:17,958 She's introduced fugue and counterpoint 380 00:31:18,127 --> 00:31:21,047 into the freewheeling spontaneity of the jazz world. 381 00:31:25,759 --> 00:31:28,429 Nina, do you think that now that you are successful 382 00:31:28,596 --> 00:31:31,306 as a popular artist that you'd like to do any classical? 383 00:31:31,557 --> 00:31:34,767 Yes, but I don't have time to think about it too much. 384 00:31:35,144 --> 00:31:36,774 But you have to realise 385 00:31:36,937 --> 00:31:39,517 that when I'm most satisfied with my music, 386 00:31:39,690 --> 00:31:43,320 I call upon all the things that I've learned in classical music. 387 00:31:48,574 --> 00:31:51,704 She wanted everything money and success could buy. 388 00:31:51,869 --> 00:31:55,709 So I promised her that she was going to be a rich black bitch. 389 00:31:56,582 --> 00:31:58,632 We had a blackboard and he used to put on there 390 00:31:58,792 --> 00:32:01,382 "I'll be a rich black bitch"by this such and such date." 391 00:32:01,545 --> 00:32:03,665 He said, "Then you could quit." I always believed him. 392 00:32:04,506 --> 00:32:07,086 But I never could quit because he worked me too hard. 393 00:32:47,883 --> 00:32:50,303 Andy said: "Nina, it's hard work. 394 00:32:51,220 --> 00:32:53,260 "You want to make the money? You have to work." 395 00:32:53,555 --> 00:32:54,965 And she resented that. 396 00:32:55,599 --> 00:32:59,229 Then, Lisa was born and she resented being torn away, 397 00:32:59,561 --> 00:33:00,851 having to go on the road. 398 00:33:05,693 --> 00:33:08,113 I didn't realise what my mom did for a living. 399 00:33:08,654 --> 00:33:10,914 I just know that Mom was always travelling. 400 00:33:11,448 --> 00:33:14,198 My mother often told me that I had 13 nannies in seven years. 401 00:33:14,910 --> 00:33:19,330 While she was trying to maintain some sense of schedule for me 402 00:33:19,498 --> 00:33:22,538 and normalcy for me, she was out there doing what she was doing. 403 00:33:23,002 --> 00:33:25,070 Can I have five more minutes? It's very frustrating... 404 00:33:25,170 --> 00:33:26,340 When we were on the road, 405 00:33:26,505 --> 00:33:28,415 there were times we had to be careful. 406 00:33:28,674 --> 00:33:31,344 She could get angry and start arguments with people. 407 00:33:31,510 --> 00:33:32,930 You're all pushing, You're pushing. 408 00:33:33,137 --> 00:33:35,097 Don't put nothin' in it. Let's do it again. 409 00:33:35,264 --> 00:33:38,354 If anyone were talking in the audience, she would just sit. 410 00:33:38,809 --> 00:33:40,979 First she would say: "Please..." 411 00:33:42,229 --> 00:33:44,939 She said: "I'm not continuing." 412 00:33:45,149 --> 00:33:47,279 She'd get up, walk out and the gig was over. 413 00:33:48,152 --> 00:33:49,782 I just want them to listen to the music 414 00:33:49,945 --> 00:33:51,735 like they did in the classical world. 415 00:33:51,905 --> 00:33:53,405 I thought they needed teaching. 416 00:33:53,741 --> 00:33:55,451 If they couldn't listen, fuck it! 417 00:33:57,578 --> 00:33:59,198 She got into Carnegie Hall, 418 00:33:59,371 --> 00:34:02,211 and she got the big house in the country, 419 00:34:02,541 --> 00:34:05,421 but she began questioning herself. 420 00:34:05,836 --> 00:34:07,586 She'd get into moods of depression 421 00:34:07,755 --> 00:34:10,835 about the whole business, the personal relationship, 422 00:34:11,008 --> 00:34:16,348 cursing, smashing things, and it worsened as the time went by. 423 00:34:29,109 --> 00:34:33,609 All I did was work, work, work. 424 00:34:34,364 --> 00:34:35,784 I was always tired. 425 00:34:35,949 --> 00:34:37,829 I was always tired. 426 00:34:38,702 --> 00:34:40,082 I could never sleep. 427 00:34:40,412 --> 00:34:42,922 You see, music always goes through my head, 428 00:34:43,082 --> 00:34:46,422 which means the more I played the less I could relax. 429 00:34:46,919 --> 00:34:48,919 I kept thinking Andy should let me rest. 430 00:34:49,213 --> 00:34:50,513 He never did. 431 00:35:15,989 --> 00:35:18,779 Got my liver 432 00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:23,410 She felt she was handled like a racehorse 433 00:35:24,039 --> 00:35:27,379 and she was always fighting... fighting, fighting it. 434 00:35:28,085 --> 00:35:30,875 Andy would say: "Nina, we've got a career here. 435 00:35:31,171 --> 00:35:34,011 That's not gonna continue if you don't nurture it. 436 00:35:34,675 --> 00:35:37,255 So, she came to resent Andy. 437 00:35:37,553 --> 00:35:39,303 But she was afraid of Andy. 438 00:35:40,973 --> 00:35:43,983 Andrew protected me against everybody but himself. 439 00:35:44,935 --> 00:35:47,225 He wrapped himself around me like a snake. 440 00:35:47,938 --> 00:35:50,358 I worked like a dog and I was scared of him. 441 00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:52,990 And Andrew beat me up... 442 00:35:53,527 --> 00:35:55,487 I've never talked to you about this, 443 00:35:55,863 --> 00:35:58,283 but he beat me up. I was deathly scared of Andrew. 444 00:36:13,422 --> 00:36:17,052 One time, early in the morning, like 4:00 or 5:00 o'clock, 445 00:36:19,261 --> 00:36:23,891 the phone rings, it's Nina, and she needed to hide out. 446 00:36:26,977 --> 00:36:30,057 I had gone to a discotheque with Andrew. 447 00:36:31,064 --> 00:36:33,534 A fan came up to me and gave me a note. 448 00:36:33,692 --> 00:36:37,322 Andy saw me take this note and put it in my pocket. 449 00:36:41,241 --> 00:36:43,991 She thought nothing of it. She related this to me. 450 00:36:44,161 --> 00:36:46,711 Andy came back and grabbed her arm 451 00:36:46,872 --> 00:36:50,002 and took her out from the place and beat her up. 452 00:36:50,876 --> 00:36:52,536 When I got out on the street, 453 00:36:52,711 --> 00:36:56,011 he started raining blows on me, bloody blows. 454 00:36:56,173 --> 00:36:58,473 He'd beat me all the way home, 455 00:36:58,842 --> 00:37:01,432 up the stairs, in the elevator, 456 00:37:01,887 --> 00:37:03,887 in my room, put a gun to my head. 457 00:37:04,473 --> 00:37:06,483 Then he tied me up and raped me. 458 00:37:11,021 --> 00:37:14,941 She came to my place and she was beat up. 459 00:37:15,651 --> 00:37:17,901 And I put her to bed 460 00:37:18,654 --> 00:37:22,824 and she rested for a couple of days. 461 00:37:23,283 --> 00:37:25,163 He didn't find me for two weeks 462 00:37:25,327 --> 00:37:26,997 My eyes... I couldn't see. 463 00:37:27,496 --> 00:37:29,746 He said: "Who beat you up like that?" 464 00:37:30,165 --> 00:37:31,955 I said: "You did." He said: "No, I didn't. 465 00:37:32,125 --> 00:37:33,765 "I've been looking for you for two weeks." 466 00:37:33,919 --> 00:37:35,339 I said: "You're insane." 467 00:37:36,421 --> 00:37:39,591 He was brutal. But I loved him. 468 00:37:40,008 --> 00:37:42,928 I guess, I just believed he wouldn't do it any more. 469 00:37:54,481 --> 00:37:57,151 My mother always said till the day she died, 470 00:37:57,734 --> 00:38:00,034 Dad was the best manager that she ever had. 471 00:38:00,821 --> 00:38:03,911 But on top of being charismatic he could be a bully, 472 00:38:04,408 --> 00:38:06,328 and he could be very mean. 473 00:38:07,327 --> 00:38:09,827 And she was on the receiving end of that, 474 00:38:11,665 --> 00:38:13,535 more times than you know... 475 00:38:14,626 --> 00:38:16,626 she should have been, which should have been never. 476 00:38:18,255 --> 00:38:20,335 Mom would allude to: 477 00:38:20,507 --> 00:38:23,637 "He's rammed my head into a concrete wall." 478 00:38:24,219 --> 00:38:26,049 She said that he punched her in the stomach 479 00:38:26,221 --> 00:38:27,931 when she was pregnant with me. 480 00:38:44,114 --> 00:38:47,334 As a child I remember sitting in the car between them. 481 00:38:47,534 --> 00:38:49,624 They were arguing about something 482 00:38:49,786 --> 00:38:52,826 and I remember my father reaching across me... 483 00:38:53,415 --> 00:38:54,415 So I was like this... 484 00:38:54,583 --> 00:38:55,833 and backhanding her. 485 00:38:57,085 --> 00:39:01,465 We're going home in the car, I'm driving and I slapped her. 486 00:39:01,631 --> 00:39:05,761 Blood spurted right over this eyebrow. 487 00:39:06,345 --> 00:39:10,385 She had, like, a one-inch cut from my ring. 488 00:39:11,266 --> 00:39:16,146 We got her home and I clipped the skin together and taped it. 489 00:39:17,314 --> 00:39:20,194 And a week later, there wasn't even a scar. 490 00:39:23,278 --> 00:39:24,698 I think they were both nuts. 491 00:39:25,113 --> 00:39:28,913 She stayed with him, she had this love affair with fire. 492 00:39:32,037 --> 00:39:34,917 That's like inviting the bull with the red cape, 493 00:39:35,082 --> 00:39:37,582 "Just come on into my kitchen and let's see what we can do." 494 00:39:37,751 --> 00:39:39,341 That's what she did. 495 00:39:39,836 --> 00:39:41,836 - What I want for her? - Yes. 496 00:39:42,214 --> 00:39:46,594 - Myself, what else? - I mean career-wise. 497 00:39:48,095 --> 00:39:50,845 My father had a strategic plan 498 00:39:51,014 --> 00:39:53,774 in terms of how Mom's career was gonna go. 499 00:39:54,226 --> 00:39:56,976 He wanted her to be able to win all the awards 500 00:39:57,396 --> 00:40:00,726 and to become the huge star he knew that she could be. 501 00:40:02,275 --> 00:40:05,065 But she wanted something more. 502 00:40:05,237 --> 00:40:07,567 There was something missing, in her... 503 00:40:07,739 --> 00:40:08,779 Some meaning. 504 00:40:14,496 --> 00:40:15,996 They died in Birmingham, 505 00:40:16,164 --> 00:40:18,084 the nation's most segregated city. 506 00:40:18,583 --> 00:40:20,343 Dynamite exploded on Sunday morning. 507 00:40:20,502 --> 00:40:23,212 Killed four little girls, injured 20 other Negroes. 508 00:40:23,380 --> 00:40:25,010 It was one of more than 40 bombings 509 00:40:25,173 --> 00:40:26,593 in that Birmingham area. 510 00:40:28,051 --> 00:40:32,641 Kids were murdered in Birmingham! 511 00:40:33,098 --> 00:40:36,848 On a Sunday and in Sunday schools, in a Christian nation! 512 00:40:37,018 --> 00:40:38,398 And nobody cares! 513 00:40:39,855 --> 00:40:42,935 When the kids got killed in that church... 514 00:40:43,442 --> 00:40:44,442 That did it. 515 00:40:44,776 --> 00:40:47,026 First you get depressed and after that, you get mad. 516 00:40:48,238 --> 00:40:49,868 When these kids got bombed, 517 00:40:50,031 --> 00:40:51,701 I just sat down and wrote this song. 518 00:40:52,534 --> 00:40:56,084 And it's a very moving, violent song. 519 00:40:56,246 --> 00:40:58,246 'Cause that's how I feel about the whole thing. 520 00:41:33,825 --> 00:41:35,285 "Mississippi Goddam." 521 00:41:35,494 --> 00:41:38,164 Phew! Hmm? Got my attention. 522 00:41:38,788 --> 00:41:41,208 What she was doing was different. 523 00:41:41,625 --> 00:41:44,665 There's something about a woman... 524 00:41:45,670 --> 00:41:48,800 If you look at all the suffering that black folks went through... 525 00:41:49,716 --> 00:41:54,676 Not one black man would dare say "Mississippi Goddam." 526 00:41:55,388 --> 00:42:01,018 To have someone with her stature talking about your problem... 527 00:42:01,186 --> 00:42:02,646 You know how happy they had to be? 528 00:42:03,230 --> 00:42:04,480 We all wanted to say it. 529 00:42:05,065 --> 00:42:06,185 She said it. 530 00:42:07,359 --> 00:42:09,149 "Mississippi Goddam!" 531 00:42:34,344 --> 00:42:36,474 For Mommy to write a song called "Mississippi Goddam" 532 00:42:36,638 --> 00:42:37,758 was revolutionary. 533 00:42:37,931 --> 00:42:40,931 They didn't have cursing on the radio or on television. 534 00:42:41,101 --> 00:42:45,061 DJs refused to play it and boxes of the 45s 535 00:42:45,230 --> 00:42:48,230 used to be sent back from the radio stations cracked in two. 536 00:43:12,048 --> 00:43:14,718 As the civil rights movement really swung into high gear, 537 00:43:15,343 --> 00:43:17,183 she swung into high gear with it. 538 00:43:17,596 --> 00:43:22,476 In '65, we played at the Selma March in Montgomery, Alabama. 539 00:43:22,726 --> 00:43:26,436 We have a legal and constitutional right 540 00:43:26,605 --> 00:43:29,435 to march from Selma to Montgomery. 541 00:43:30,483 --> 00:43:32,613 It was extremely dangerous. 542 00:43:32,777 --> 00:43:34,817 The federal Marshals were called in. 543 00:43:35,113 --> 00:43:38,743 They were standing on the top of all the buildings downtown, 544 00:43:39,242 --> 00:43:40,372 with guns. 545 00:43:41,411 --> 00:43:44,751 Seated in front of the stage facing the audience 546 00:43:44,914 --> 00:43:47,964 was Martin Luther King, Ralph Bunche from the UN 547 00:43:48,168 --> 00:43:50,798 and a lot of other worldwide dignitaries. 548 00:43:51,254 --> 00:43:54,804 You had Langston Hughes, James Baldwin, Sidney Poitier, 549 00:43:55,133 --> 00:43:58,303 Bill Cosby, Leonard Bernstein, Harry Belafonte. 550 00:43:58,470 --> 00:44:00,600 And we did "Mississippi Goddam". 551 00:44:31,252 --> 00:44:33,382 My mother said that after she sang that song 552 00:44:33,546 --> 00:44:36,626 she got so angry that her voice broke. 553 00:44:37,676 --> 00:44:39,426 And from "Mississippi Goddam" on, 554 00:44:39,636 --> 00:44:43,886 it never, ever returned to its former octave. 555 00:44:46,309 --> 00:44:50,439 But I think that Mom's anger is what sustained her. 556 00:44:51,690 --> 00:44:56,530 The energy, the creativity and the passion of those days 557 00:44:56,778 --> 00:44:58,488 is really what kept her going. 558 00:45:13,920 --> 00:45:15,710 When she wrote "Mississippi Goddam", 559 00:45:15,922 --> 00:45:18,432 I thought it was something else. You know, I liked it. 560 00:45:18,842 --> 00:45:22,222 They put a 45 out on it. I knew it had a lot of impact. 561 00:45:23,179 --> 00:45:27,099 But my complaint was that, while I was always pushing for 562 00:45:27,267 --> 00:45:29,727 the commercial side of the picture, 563 00:45:30,019 --> 00:45:33,769 she got sidetracked with all of these civil rights activities 564 00:45:35,358 --> 00:45:37,898 When the civil rights thing came, all of a sudden, 565 00:45:38,486 --> 00:45:41,566 I could let myself be heard 566 00:45:41,990 --> 00:45:43,590 about what I'd been feeling all the time. 567 00:45:44,492 --> 00:45:47,122 When I was young, I knew to stay alive. 568 00:45:47,412 --> 00:45:50,462 As a black family, we had to work at it. 569 00:45:50,790 --> 00:45:52,330 We had to keep secrets. 570 00:45:52,917 --> 00:45:55,837 We never complained about being poor, 571 00:45:56,004 --> 00:45:59,474 or being taken advantage of or not getting our share. 572 00:45:59,674 --> 00:46:01,554 We had to keep our mouths shut. 573 00:46:01,801 --> 00:46:04,851 As I walked across that railroad track every Saturday, 574 00:46:05,180 --> 00:46:09,430 I knew to break the silence meant a confrontation 575 00:46:09,601 --> 00:46:11,311 with the white people of that town. 576 00:46:15,607 --> 00:46:17,067 Although I didn't know I knew it, 577 00:46:17,233 --> 00:46:18,863 if the black man rises up and says: 578 00:46:19,027 --> 00:46:20,697 "I am not gonna do that any more..." 579 00:46:24,741 --> 00:46:26,661 he stands to get murdered. 580 00:46:31,164 --> 00:46:34,504 But no one mentioned that, which is indeed quite strange. 581 00:46:53,144 --> 00:46:54,354 It touched me the first time, 582 00:46:54,521 --> 00:46:56,481 when I gave the recital at this library. 583 00:46:57,398 --> 00:46:58,728 Everybody was seated 584 00:46:59,484 --> 00:47:02,114 and they told me my parents had to sit in the back. 585 00:47:02,529 --> 00:47:04,989 I said: "If they have to sit in the back, I won't perform." 586 00:47:05,990 --> 00:47:07,030 They fixed it that time. 587 00:47:07,200 --> 00:47:09,700 They brought them to the front and they let them sit down. 588 00:47:09,869 --> 00:47:13,459 It was my first feeling of being discriminated against. 589 00:47:14,457 --> 00:47:17,667 I recoil in horror at such a thing. 590 00:48:28,197 --> 00:48:31,697 I choose to reflect the times and the situations 591 00:48:31,868 --> 00:48:33,238 in which I find myself. 592 00:48:33,411 --> 00:48:34,751 That, to me, is my duty... 593 00:48:36,080 --> 00:48:38,460 And at this crucial time in our lives, 594 00:48:38,625 --> 00:48:40,495 when everything is so desperate, 595 00:48:40,668 --> 00:48:43,298 when every day is a matter of survival, 596 00:48:43,463 --> 00:48:45,593 I don't think you can help but be involved. 597 00:48:45,757 --> 00:48:47,467 Young people, black and white know this. 598 00:48:47,634 --> 00:48:49,684 That's why they are so involved in politics. 599 00:48:50,303 --> 00:48:52,223 We will shape and mould this country, 600 00:48:52,388 --> 00:48:54,808 or it will not be moulded and shaped at all any more. 601 00:48:55,475 --> 00:48:56,805 I don't think you have a choice... 602 00:48:56,976 --> 00:48:59,846 How can you be an artist and not reflect the times? 603 00:49:37,475 --> 00:49:38,475 Yeah! 604 00:49:43,022 --> 00:49:44,942 I've always thought that I was shaking people up, 605 00:49:45,066 --> 00:49:47,146 but now I want to go at it more, 606 00:49:47,318 --> 00:49:49,278 I want to go at it more deliberately. 607 00:49:49,487 --> 00:49:51,197 And I want to go at it coldly. 608 00:49:51,364 --> 00:49:55,334 I want to shake people up so bad that when they leave 609 00:49:55,493 --> 00:49:58,413 a nightclub where I've performed... 610 00:49:58,579 --> 00:50:00,709 I just want them to be to pieces. 611 00:50:01,040 --> 00:50:02,170 All right! 612 00:51:06,272 --> 00:51:10,152 I wanna go in that den of those elegant people 613 00:51:10,359 --> 00:51:15,359 with their old ideas, smugness and just drive them insane. 614 00:51:15,531 --> 00:51:16,571 Rise up! 615 00:51:35,259 --> 00:51:37,469 It's all right if you dance slow! 616 00:51:45,103 --> 00:51:46,693 It was exhilarating 617 00:51:46,854 --> 00:51:48,484 to be part of that movement at the time, 618 00:51:48,648 --> 00:51:52,568 because I was needed. I could sing to help my people. 619 00:51:52,735 --> 00:51:56,065 And that became the mainstay of my life. 620 00:51:56,239 --> 00:51:59,489 Not classical piano, not classical music, 621 00:51:59,659 --> 00:52:02,909 not even popular music, but civil rights music. 622 00:52:03,996 --> 00:52:07,326 I got to know Martin Luther King, Malcom X, 623 00:52:07,500 --> 00:52:09,340 Andrew Young and artists, 624 00:52:09,502 --> 00:52:12,922 actors, actresses, poets, writers, 625 00:52:13,089 --> 00:52:15,169 people like myself who felt compelled 626 00:52:15,341 --> 00:52:17,261 to make the stand that I have. 627 00:52:17,969 --> 00:52:22,139 It was very important for her to connect with the writers 628 00:52:22,306 --> 00:52:24,176 and playwrights of that moment 629 00:52:24,350 --> 00:52:28,020 because those people had the intellectual background 630 00:52:28,187 --> 00:52:29,307 of the movement. 631 00:52:29,480 --> 00:52:32,570 She didn't have that. She had the musical background. 632 00:52:33,359 --> 00:52:36,069 For instance, Langston Hughes wrote the lyrics 633 00:52:36,237 --> 00:52:37,737 for "Backlash Blues" for her. 634 00:52:37,905 --> 00:52:39,115 Lorraine Hansberry... 635 00:52:39,282 --> 00:52:42,202 Nina took her play, "Young, Gifted and Black" 636 00:52:42,368 --> 00:52:43,408 and made a song out of it. 637 00:52:43,578 --> 00:52:45,788 It's regarded as one of the most important songs 638 00:52:45,955 --> 00:52:47,285 in the civil rights movement. 639 00:52:48,166 --> 00:52:51,456 I know there are only 300 black students here 640 00:52:51,627 --> 00:52:54,627 in this college of 18,000. 641 00:52:54,881 --> 00:52:58,381 So, this song is dedicated only to you. 642 00:53:15,943 --> 00:53:18,203 Lorraine Hansberry was my best friend. 643 00:53:18,446 --> 00:53:20,736 She wrote plays, "Raisin in The Sun" 644 00:53:20,990 --> 00:53:22,370 and "Young, Gifted and Black". 645 00:53:22,533 --> 00:53:25,953 She taught me a lot about Karl Marx, Lenin and philosophy. 646 00:53:26,120 --> 00:53:28,000 The basic fabric of our society 647 00:53:28,164 --> 00:53:30,544 that has Negroes in the situation they are in 648 00:53:30,708 --> 00:53:33,088 is the thing, which must be changed. 649 00:53:39,842 --> 00:53:41,642 Those times were pretty amazing. 650 00:53:42,220 --> 00:53:43,760 I look back now and I'm like: 651 00:53:43,930 --> 00:53:45,810 "Wow! Who's Who of Black America." 652 00:53:46,349 --> 00:53:48,099 Lorraine Hansberry was my godmother, 653 00:53:48,392 --> 00:53:52,102 Malcom X's wife, Betty Shabazz, was my auntie. 654 00:53:52,355 --> 00:53:54,475 They lived right next door in Mount Vernon. 655 00:53:54,982 --> 00:53:57,032 There are six daughters and I was like the seventh. 656 00:53:57,193 --> 00:53:59,153 I was always riding my bike over there. 657 00:53:59,403 --> 00:54:01,163 Lisa and I were the same age 658 00:54:01,489 --> 00:54:05,159 I think we may have called one another twins. 659 00:54:05,743 --> 00:54:07,333 It was just a great time. 660 00:54:07,703 --> 00:54:10,123 There was music, there were discussions. 661 00:54:10,289 --> 00:54:12,289 Whether it was at our house 662 00:54:12,458 --> 00:54:14,378 or Lisa's house, Nina Simone's home, 663 00:54:14,627 --> 00:54:17,417 it was definitely party with a purpose. 664 00:54:18,297 --> 00:54:20,257 We happened to be a fly on the wall 665 00:54:20,758 --> 00:54:25,428 with some of the genius poets and poetesses 666 00:54:26,013 --> 00:54:27,973 of the time, the era. 667 00:54:28,140 --> 00:54:30,480 To sit in that room and listen... 668 00:54:30,768 --> 00:54:34,728 These were brilliant well-read, well-travelled, 669 00:54:34,897 --> 00:54:38,107 charming, alluring, charismatic 670 00:54:38,276 --> 00:54:41,356 people who were moved to make a difference in the world. 671 00:54:42,822 --> 00:54:46,532 I am born of the Young, Gifted and Black affirmation. 672 00:54:46,867 --> 00:54:50,157 For me, and those of us in that environment, 673 00:54:50,329 --> 00:54:52,579 it was daring to proclaim it. 674 00:54:53,249 --> 00:54:55,209 And then share it joyously. 675 00:54:55,710 --> 00:54:57,250 When she sang it... 676 00:55:01,799 --> 00:55:03,379 People would stand up 677 00:55:03,551 --> 00:55:07,561 and engage in their African-ness without apology. 678 00:55:08,180 --> 00:55:11,600 It's like a contemporary, hip song of the era. 679 00:55:12,351 --> 00:55:14,021 It means you get to hum it in public. 680 00:55:20,443 --> 00:55:23,903 She became a legend in the activists' movement. 681 00:55:24,447 --> 00:55:27,697 And through meetings and discussions I overheard, 682 00:55:27,992 --> 00:55:31,792 she was convinced that certain things must be done in order to 683 00:55:32,913 --> 00:55:34,503 push the revolution. 684 00:55:34,707 --> 00:55:36,827 I told her that's not the answer. 685 00:55:37,251 --> 00:55:42,091 And it began to manifest in her attitude towards me 686 00:55:42,256 --> 00:55:44,006 and the business. She'd fly off. 687 00:55:44,425 --> 00:55:46,385 I remember a few nights, you'd go to bed 688 00:55:46,552 --> 00:55:49,102 happy and holding one another and wake up... 689 00:55:49,680 --> 00:55:53,020 She'd be sitting up in bed with her arms folded looking at me, 690 00:55:53,184 --> 00:55:54,564 thinking about killing me. 691 00:55:55,186 --> 00:55:56,516 And this is how it went. 692 00:55:56,979 --> 00:56:00,399 The political work became very heavy. 693 00:56:01,984 --> 00:56:03,944 To me we are the most beautiful creatures 694 00:56:04,111 --> 00:56:06,071 in the whole world, black people. 695 00:56:06,238 --> 00:56:10,658 So, my job is to make them more curious 696 00:56:10,826 --> 00:56:12,906 about where they came from. 697 00:56:13,162 --> 00:56:17,582 And their own identity and pride in that identity. 698 00:56:17,958 --> 00:56:21,338 That's why I try to make my songs as powerful as possible, 699 00:56:21,754 --> 00:56:25,134 mostly to make them curious about themselves. 700 00:56:25,383 --> 00:56:27,093 We don't know anything about ourselves. 701 00:56:27,259 --> 00:56:30,259 We don't even have the pride and dignity of African people. 702 00:56:30,763 --> 00:56:33,563 We can't even talk about where we came from. 703 00:56:33,724 --> 00:56:37,314 We don't know. It's like a lost race. 704 00:57:57,641 --> 00:57:59,601 I really mean to provoke 705 00:57:59,768 --> 00:58:03,018 this feeling of "Who am I?" "Where do I come from?" 706 00:58:03,439 --> 00:58:06,939 You know, "Do I really like me? and "Why do I like me?" 707 00:58:07,151 --> 00:58:09,111 Like, you know, "If I'm black and beautiful, 708 00:58:09,278 --> 00:58:10,608 I really am and I know it, 709 00:58:10,779 --> 00:58:12,699 I don't care who cares or says what." 710 00:59:05,626 --> 00:59:08,746 This is what compels me to push black people 711 00:59:08,963 --> 00:59:11,303 to identify with black culture. 712 00:59:11,632 --> 00:59:16,852 Giving out to them that blackness, that black power. 713 00:59:26,605 --> 00:59:28,435 Nina was a real rebel. 714 00:59:28,649 --> 00:59:33,069 She didn't really fit in the revolutionary black female role 715 00:59:33,237 --> 00:59:34,407 that was offered her. 716 00:59:34,572 --> 00:59:37,662 She could avoid pretentious phoniness 717 00:59:37,908 --> 00:59:40,158 and get more depth out of her song 718 00:59:40,578 --> 00:59:43,038 than people are used to hearing out of those songs. 719 00:59:46,667 --> 00:59:50,457 She was that kind of patron saint of the rebellion. 720 01:00:01,557 --> 01:00:03,767 Nina started to get more aggressive. 721 01:00:04,351 --> 01:00:07,901 I remember one time as she walked to Dr King and said: 722 01:00:08,606 --> 01:00:10,516 "I'm not non-violent." 723 01:00:11,191 --> 01:00:14,951 He said: "That's OK, sister. You don't have to be." 724 01:00:15,779 --> 01:00:18,699 I was never non-violent. Never. 725 01:00:19,158 --> 01:00:22,748 I thought we should get our rights by any means necessary. 726 01:00:23,245 --> 01:00:25,155 And then she met Stokely Carmichael. 727 01:00:25,497 --> 01:00:28,377 Miss Simone says something very significant 728 01:00:28,542 --> 01:00:30,462 in her song "Mississippi Goddam". 729 01:00:30,753 --> 01:00:35,843 She says, "This country is built on lies." 730 01:00:36,008 --> 01:00:38,468 You're gonna sit in front of your television set 731 01:00:38,636 --> 01:00:40,296 and listen to LBJ tell you that 732 01:00:40,471 --> 01:00:44,141 "Violence never accomplishes anything, my fellow Americans." 733 01:00:44,725 --> 01:00:46,345 And the honky drafting you out of school 734 01:00:46,518 --> 01:00:48,098 to go fight in Vietnam. 735 01:00:48,270 --> 01:00:51,610 If you don't want any trouble, keep your filthy white hands 736 01:00:51,774 --> 01:00:53,534 off our beautiful black skin. 737 01:00:53,942 --> 01:00:55,242 Keep them off! 738 01:00:55,986 --> 01:01:00,116 I am just one of the people who's sick of the social order, 739 01:01:00,282 --> 01:01:03,412 sick of the establishment, sick to my soul of it all. 740 01:01:03,702 --> 01:01:07,622 To me, America's society is nothing but a cancer, 741 01:01:07,790 --> 01:01:10,710 and it must be exposed before it can be cured. 742 01:01:10,876 --> 01:01:12,706 I am not the doctor to cure it. 743 01:01:12,878 --> 01:01:15,588 All I can do is expose the sickness. 744 01:01:18,509 --> 01:01:20,299 Are you ready, black people? 745 01:01:20,969 --> 01:01:22,259 Yeah! 746 01:01:23,931 --> 01:01:25,311 Are you ready, black people? 747 01:01:25,641 --> 01:01:26,641 Yeah! 748 01:01:28,102 --> 01:01:29,442 Are you really ready? 749 01:01:29,812 --> 01:01:30,812 Yeah! 750 01:01:31,355 --> 01:01:33,315 She wanted to align herself 751 01:01:33,482 --> 01:01:36,242 with the extreme terrorist militants 752 01:01:36,402 --> 01:01:37,952 who were influencing her. 753 01:01:38,112 --> 01:01:40,412 And after all of these meetings with all these people, 754 01:01:40,572 --> 01:01:41,782 she would come to me and, 755 01:01:41,949 --> 01:01:45,079 "Let's get the guns. Let's poison the reservoir." 756 01:01:45,244 --> 01:01:48,004 All sorts of violent terrorist acts. 757 01:01:48,163 --> 01:01:53,343 Are you ready to call the wrath of black gods, black magic, 758 01:01:54,503 --> 01:01:55,753 to do your bidding? 759 01:01:55,921 --> 01:01:57,761 Black people are never gonna get their rights 760 01:01:57,923 --> 01:02:00,093 unless they have their own separate state. 761 01:02:00,259 --> 01:02:01,839 And if we'd have armed revolution, 762 01:02:02,219 --> 01:02:03,679 there'd be a lot of blood. 763 01:02:03,846 --> 01:02:05,886 I think we'd have that separate state. 764 01:02:06,056 --> 01:02:09,806 Are you ready to smash white things? 765 01:02:09,977 --> 01:02:11,017 Yeah! 766 01:02:12,855 --> 01:02:14,605 To burn buildings, are you ready? 767 01:02:14,773 --> 01:02:15,773 Yeah! 768 01:02:16,275 --> 01:02:18,855 At a certain point, Nina started to play 769 01:02:19,027 --> 01:02:21,277 only political songs and nothing else. 770 01:02:21,655 --> 01:02:23,405 That started to hurt her career. 771 01:02:23,574 --> 01:02:25,584 That became a problem to book her, 772 01:02:25,743 --> 01:02:27,663 because promoters were a bit afraid 773 01:02:27,870 --> 01:02:32,460 it might only be the political message that you were getting. 774 01:02:32,666 --> 01:02:35,166 Are you ready to kill if necessary? 775 01:02:35,335 --> 01:02:36,545 Yeah! 776 01:02:37,045 --> 01:02:39,795 - Is your mind ready? - Yeah! 777 01:02:39,965 --> 01:02:41,465 Is your body ready? 778 01:02:41,800 --> 01:02:42,800 Yeah! 779 01:02:43,010 --> 01:02:45,970 If I'd had my way, I'd have been a killer. 780 01:02:46,346 --> 01:02:48,806 I would have had guns and I would have gone to the South 781 01:02:48,974 --> 01:02:52,144 and gave them violence for violence, shotgun for shotgun, 782 01:02:52,311 --> 01:02:53,731 but my husband told me... 783 01:02:53,896 --> 01:02:56,516 I didn't know anything about guns and he refused to teach me. 784 01:02:56,690 --> 01:02:59,110 The only thing I had was music, so I obeyed him. 785 01:02:59,485 --> 01:03:02,275 If I'd had my way, I wouldn't be sitting here today. 786 01:03:02,613 --> 01:03:04,453 I'd be probably dead. 787 01:03:04,740 --> 01:03:07,160 Are you really, really, really ready? 788 01:03:07,326 --> 01:03:08,576 Yeah! 789 01:03:08,744 --> 01:03:11,124 She's putting down the white people... 790 01:03:11,330 --> 01:03:14,250 You know, like a barking dog. 791 01:03:14,625 --> 01:03:17,165 But she still wanted all the good things. 792 01:03:17,461 --> 01:03:23,131 Whenever she'd see Aretha Franklin, Gladys Knight 793 01:03:23,300 --> 01:03:26,470 and all of these people on the prime television shows, 794 01:03:27,012 --> 01:03:29,562 she, of course, was very upset because 795 01:03:29,723 --> 01:03:31,813 she wasn't able to get on to these shows 796 01:03:31,975 --> 01:03:34,225 because of her reputation. 797 01:03:34,394 --> 01:03:36,694 It got so that there wasn't that much work 798 01:03:36,855 --> 01:03:38,935 and the expenses were high. 799 01:03:39,191 --> 01:03:42,491 It was cutting the legs out from all the work that I had done. 800 01:03:42,653 --> 01:03:43,653 See you later. 801 01:03:44,738 --> 01:03:45,778 I'll see you later. 802 01:03:46,406 --> 01:03:48,126 I remember my dad complaining about the fact 803 01:03:48,283 --> 01:03:49,913 she never stopped speaking out. 804 01:03:50,369 --> 01:03:51,869 But that's who she was. 805 01:03:52,496 --> 01:03:53,776 It was OK when you were on stage. 806 01:03:53,914 --> 01:03:55,482 It's OK 'cause you let it all hang out and then 807 01:03:55,582 --> 01:03:57,462 when the show ends and the lights go out, 808 01:03:57,626 --> 01:04:00,416 "OK, let's put the monkey back in the cage and eat your banana, 809 01:04:00,587 --> 01:04:02,457 you know, just behave yourself." 810 01:04:03,215 --> 01:04:07,505 It was like she was penalised and punished for being herself. 811 01:04:08,804 --> 01:04:12,474 That's a very painful, lonely place to be. 812 01:04:15,269 --> 01:04:16,269 Good evening. 813 01:04:16,562 --> 01:04:18,362 Tonight my guest in the studio with me 814 01:04:18,522 --> 01:04:20,362 needs almost no introduction. 815 01:04:20,732 --> 01:04:22,402 She is Miss Nina Simone. 816 01:04:22,609 --> 01:04:24,239 Nina, when it comes to the artists today, 817 01:04:24,403 --> 01:04:25,953 we find that more of the artists 818 01:04:26,113 --> 01:04:30,123 are attempting to alert America to the need for change. 819 01:04:30,284 --> 01:04:32,244 Is this really the artist's role? 820 01:04:32,494 --> 01:04:37,294 Well, I think it's something that I've chosen to do 821 01:04:37,708 --> 01:04:40,038 and I've felt compelled to do it. 822 01:04:41,336 --> 01:04:43,296 So it is my role... 823 01:04:43,672 --> 01:04:45,922 but sometimes, I wish it wasn't. 824 01:04:47,342 --> 01:04:50,512 I think that the artists who don't get involved 825 01:04:50,679 --> 01:04:54,889 in preaching messages probably are happier. 826 01:04:55,309 --> 01:05:00,269 But you see, I have to live with Nina and that is very difficult. 827 01:05:44,024 --> 01:05:47,034 I think 19 people depend on me for their livelihood. 828 01:05:47,194 --> 01:05:48,574 That's a hell of a lot of people. 829 01:05:48,779 --> 01:05:51,819 I know that if I say, "Look, I'm too tired to work tonight, 830 01:05:51,990 --> 01:05:53,410 I'm gonna get it from both ends. 831 01:05:53,659 --> 01:05:57,079 Nobody's gonna understand or care that I'm too tired. 832 01:05:57,704 --> 01:05:59,164 I'm very aware of that. 833 01:05:59,706 --> 01:06:01,916 Now, I would like some freedom, somewhere... 834 01:06:02,459 --> 01:06:04,169 Where I didn't feel those pressures. 835 01:06:33,031 --> 01:06:36,411 By the late '60s, I realised that Nina was fighting 836 01:06:36,576 --> 01:06:39,996 demons that could appear at any moment and you wouldn't know it. 837 01:06:40,580 --> 01:06:42,960 She could get violent, she could get really physical, 838 01:06:43,125 --> 01:06:46,085 and the change in her would be dramatic... 839 01:06:46,378 --> 01:06:47,838 Boom, like a switch. 840 01:06:48,672 --> 01:06:53,592 After a while, I realised I wasn't with my sister... 841 01:06:53,760 --> 01:06:55,640 I was with "that one". 842 01:06:56,471 --> 01:06:59,981 And that one was menacing. 843 01:07:15,824 --> 01:07:19,164 She was very concerned, in her sane moments, 844 01:07:19,578 --> 01:07:23,998 about these fits of depression and anger. 845 01:07:24,166 --> 01:07:26,706 We even went to Columbia-Presbyterian Hospital, 846 01:07:26,877 --> 01:07:29,587 I think we signed her in for four or five days. 847 01:07:29,755 --> 01:07:34,585 They conducted every test known to medicine at the time. 848 01:07:35,093 --> 01:07:38,263 They were unable to find anything. 849 01:08:15,675 --> 01:08:19,425 And her downward spiral, it just got worse and worse. 850 01:08:20,806 --> 01:08:23,136 We did a tour with Bill Cosby, 851 01:08:23,350 --> 01:08:26,390 and the last night, she became erratic. 852 01:08:27,020 --> 01:08:29,150 She had a can of shoe polish. 853 01:08:29,731 --> 01:08:32,111 She was putting it in her hair. 854 01:08:32,317 --> 01:08:35,277 She began talking gibberish... 855 01:08:35,654 --> 01:08:38,664 She was totally out of it, incoherent. 856 01:08:39,116 --> 01:08:42,036 It appeared she was having a nervous breakdown. 857 01:08:42,244 --> 01:08:46,874 When it came time to go on, I had to escort her 858 01:08:47,165 --> 01:08:50,335 by holding her arm onto the stage 859 01:08:50,502 --> 01:08:52,672 and sat her down at the piano. 860 01:08:52,921 --> 01:08:56,471 I immediately stood in the wings on the opposite side 861 01:08:56,633 --> 01:08:58,763 where we could see one another. 862 01:08:58,927 --> 01:09:03,387 She's watching me pantomime and she performed. 863 01:09:04,683 --> 01:09:08,273 Basically, she had no control over her emotions, 864 01:09:08,436 --> 01:09:12,266 and underneath it all, sex dominated her. 865 01:09:12,607 --> 01:09:15,277 There were times, once or twice a week, 866 01:09:15,443 --> 01:09:21,583 when there was a sex attack when she goes into a maniacal rage. 867 01:09:21,867 --> 01:09:24,697 There had to be sex. I mean, this is driving her. 868 01:09:25,871 --> 01:09:27,621 My attitude towards sex was 869 01:09:27,789 --> 01:09:29,579 that we should have it all the time. 870 01:09:30,250 --> 01:09:32,170 How did Andy act towards you? 871 01:09:32,335 --> 01:09:34,665 I just wanted him to move me sexually, 872 01:09:34,838 --> 01:09:36,378 and he never was able to. 873 01:09:36,548 --> 01:09:37,258 Right. 874 01:09:37,424 --> 01:09:40,514 He didn't know how to touch me and he never had enough time. 875 01:09:40,719 --> 01:09:42,299 He'd come to see me late at night 876 01:09:42,470 --> 01:09:44,810 and be there two hours and leave. 877 01:09:46,057 --> 01:09:49,897 I knew that she was dating other people. 878 01:09:50,270 --> 01:09:54,980 We agreed we could both have our own outside partners. 879 01:09:56,026 --> 01:09:57,646 But we would work together 880 01:09:57,861 --> 01:10:00,411 for the sake of the business and the child. 881 01:10:03,533 --> 01:10:06,373 I can't sit here and speak about 882 01:10:06,536 --> 01:10:09,286 Aunt Nina and Uncle Andy's marriage. 883 01:10:09,497 --> 01:10:11,457 What I can say is that 884 01:10:11,625 --> 01:10:15,835 participation and activism during the '60s 885 01:10:16,796 --> 01:10:21,176 rendered chaos in any individual's lives. 886 01:10:22,427 --> 01:10:26,347 People sacrificed sanity, well-being, life. 887 01:10:27,641 --> 01:10:29,891 Nina Simone was a free spirit 888 01:10:30,060 --> 01:10:33,940 in an era that didn't really appreciate a woman's genius. 889 01:10:34,231 --> 01:10:37,731 So what does that do to a household and a family? 890 01:10:38,235 --> 01:10:39,685 Not because of income, 891 01:10:39,903 --> 01:10:42,413 but because of your soul not being able to do 892 01:10:42,572 --> 01:10:43,912 what you need to do. 893 01:10:56,211 --> 01:10:58,051 Direct from our newsroom in Washington, 894 01:10:58,213 --> 01:11:01,633 this is the CBS Evening News with Walter Cronkite. 895 01:11:02,801 --> 01:11:05,351 Good evening. Dr Martin Luther King, 896 01:11:05,553 --> 01:11:08,433 the apostle of non-violence in the civil rights movement, 897 01:11:08,598 --> 01:11:11,228 has been shot to death in Memphis, Tennessee. 898 01:11:11,685 --> 01:11:12,805 Jesus! 899 01:11:14,980 --> 01:11:17,360 There was shock in the nation's negro communities. 900 01:11:18,400 --> 01:11:20,690 Men, women and children poured into the streets. 901 01:11:20,986 --> 01:11:23,236 They appeared dazed. Many were crying. 902 01:11:24,614 --> 01:11:27,334 I think White America made its biggest mistake 903 01:11:27,951 --> 01:11:30,791 when she killed Dr King last night. 904 01:11:31,663 --> 01:11:34,753 He was the one man in our race 905 01:11:34,958 --> 01:11:36,918 who was trying to teach our people 906 01:11:37,085 --> 01:11:39,125 to have love, compassion and mercy 907 01:11:39,296 --> 01:11:41,086 for what white people had done. 908 01:11:41,423 --> 01:11:44,013 When White America killed Dr King last night, 909 01:11:44,843 --> 01:11:47,433 she killed all reasonable hope. 910 01:11:51,057 --> 01:11:57,107 We wanted to do a tune written for today, 911 01:11:57,981 --> 01:12:02,071 for this hour, for Dr Martin Luther King. 912 01:12:03,320 --> 01:12:06,990 We had yesterday to learn it and... 913 01:12:08,616 --> 01:12:09,616 So we'll see. 914 01:12:44,986 --> 01:12:47,946 Last year, Lorraine Hansberry left us. 915 01:12:48,531 --> 01:12:50,491 She was a dear friend. 916 01:12:50,658 --> 01:12:52,828 Then Langston Hughes left us. 917 01:12:53,036 --> 01:12:54,036 Who can go on? 918 01:12:54,162 --> 01:12:57,212 Do you realise how many we have lost? 919 01:12:58,333 --> 01:13:01,673 Then it really gets down to reality, doesn't it? 920 01:13:03,755 --> 01:13:05,085 Not a performance. 921 01:13:07,300 --> 01:13:09,760 Not microphones and all that crap, 922 01:13:10,470 --> 01:13:12,220 but really something else. 923 01:13:14,099 --> 01:13:16,349 We can't afford any more losses 924 01:13:17,018 --> 01:13:19,848 Oh, no. Oh, my God. 925 01:13:20,897 --> 01:13:23,527 They're shooting us down, one by one. 926 01:13:23,900 --> 01:13:24,980 Don't forget that... 927 01:13:26,444 --> 01:13:27,784 'Cause they are. 928 01:13:29,989 --> 01:13:32,239 Killing us one by one. 929 01:14:24,252 --> 01:14:26,172 I knew that we were lost. 930 01:14:27,130 --> 01:14:28,880 I felt chased all the time, 931 01:14:29,048 --> 01:14:31,758 no matter what I did or how sad I got. 932 01:14:32,343 --> 01:14:35,853 I felt that there was just no life for me in the country. 933 01:14:36,890 --> 01:14:39,560 I knew I had to quit or I had to leave Andy 934 01:14:39,726 --> 01:14:41,846 or do something. 935 01:14:42,437 --> 01:14:45,687 So I took my ring off, put it on the table 936 01:14:45,940 --> 01:14:47,440 and I left the country. 937 01:15:18,097 --> 01:15:21,387 According to my godsister Attallah Shabazz... 938 01:15:21,559 --> 01:15:24,769 I was staying with them, and Mom had gone away, 939 01:15:25,313 --> 01:15:28,533 and the phone would ring and whenever it would ring, 940 01:15:28,691 --> 01:15:31,691 I would go running, saying, "Is that my mommy on the phone?" 941 01:15:32,570 --> 01:15:35,200 Then I remember going back to the house in Mount Vernon 942 01:15:35,406 --> 01:15:36,986 and Dad just wasn't there. 943 01:15:37,492 --> 01:15:38,492 He wasn't there. 944 01:15:38,868 --> 01:15:41,828 And nobody told me anything, you know? 945 01:15:41,996 --> 01:15:42,996 And... 946 01:15:43,873 --> 01:15:44,873 So... 947 01:15:47,252 --> 01:15:51,262 One day you're at home and the staff is there, your dad's there 948 01:15:51,422 --> 01:15:54,682 the dog's there and everything that's familiar to you is there. 949 01:15:54,884 --> 01:15:57,684 And then you come back, I don't know, weeks later and... 950 01:15:58,429 --> 01:16:00,519 Nothing's there, nobody's there. 951 01:16:19,158 --> 01:16:22,538 I decided that I wanted to go to Africa to live 952 01:16:22,745 --> 01:16:24,655 and never come back to America. 953 01:16:25,206 --> 01:16:28,876 I got divorced from Andy and I went to Liberia 954 01:16:29,711 --> 01:16:31,091 and I moved there to stay. 955 01:16:33,756 --> 01:16:38,046 When I got to Africa, I am happy, I'm beyond happy. 956 01:16:39,053 --> 01:16:43,393 Liberia is a place that was founded by the American slaves, 957 01:16:43,558 --> 01:16:46,808 and it only makes sense that I should feel at home there. 958 01:16:49,272 --> 01:16:51,022 Bikinis and boots is all I wore. 959 01:16:51,190 --> 01:16:51,770 Yeah. 960 01:16:52,025 --> 01:16:54,645 There was no loneliness. There was no boredom. 961 01:16:54,986 --> 01:16:57,276 The days flew into nights, 962 01:16:57,447 --> 01:17:00,067 and you just couldn't keep up with the times 963 01:17:00,241 --> 01:17:02,791 'cause there was so much to do. It was always fun. 964 01:17:06,039 --> 01:17:08,329 I also am keenly aware 965 01:17:08,499 --> 01:17:14,049 that I've entered a world that I dreamed of all my life 966 01:17:14,505 --> 01:17:16,965 and that it is a perfect world. 967 01:17:17,550 --> 01:17:19,760 I remember thinking of the United States 968 01:17:19,927 --> 01:17:23,557 as something that I had had in a dream 969 01:17:24,223 --> 01:17:26,183 sometime in my life 970 01:17:26,434 --> 01:17:30,194 but is now gone, like it never existed! 971 01:17:30,938 --> 01:17:33,778 It was a dream that I had had 972 01:17:34,108 --> 01:17:35,648 and I had worked myself out of it 973 01:17:35,818 --> 01:17:39,908 because I had toiled so long in that place, in that prison... 974 01:17:40,990 --> 01:17:43,700 And now I'm home, now I'm free, 975 01:17:44,327 --> 01:17:46,327 and there is no going back. 976 01:17:46,746 --> 01:17:49,666 There, it was vast and open, 977 01:17:49,832 --> 01:17:51,832 and everything was natural. 978 01:17:52,001 --> 01:17:52,751 Everything. 979 01:17:52,919 --> 01:17:57,299 I have seen lightning in Africa not flash, but hover, 980 01:17:57,590 --> 01:18:00,180 and what it does is it electrifies you 981 01:18:00,343 --> 01:18:02,513 into complete speechlessness. 982 01:18:02,929 --> 01:18:07,389 I have seen it! I have seen God. 983 01:18:14,065 --> 01:18:17,685 In my seventh grade year, Mom moved me to Liberia, 984 01:18:18,027 --> 01:18:21,317 but she was always travelling and I never knew half the time 985 01:18:21,489 --> 01:18:22,569 if I wasn't going, 986 01:18:22,740 --> 01:18:24,660 that she was leaving or when she was coming back. 987 01:18:25,284 --> 01:18:29,794 So, I lived with a family for a year and I went to school there. 988 01:18:30,289 --> 01:18:31,539 And I lived with them, 989 01:18:31,708 --> 01:18:34,958 until Mom came and decided to buy a house on the beach. 990 01:18:35,586 --> 01:18:38,546 I went from living with them to living with her. 991 01:18:38,715 --> 01:18:40,215 And she just... 992 01:18:43,928 --> 01:18:45,388 I could never do anything right. 993 01:18:47,849 --> 01:18:52,099 She went from being my comfort to the monster in my life. 994 01:18:52,937 --> 01:18:55,647 Now she was the person that was doing the beating, 995 01:18:56,065 --> 01:18:57,275 and she was beating me. 996 01:18:59,235 --> 01:19:01,645 One time, we were in public somewhere, 997 01:19:01,863 --> 01:19:05,703 I did something and she went off on me in front of everybody 998 01:19:06,284 --> 01:19:08,374 I didn't show any emotion 999 01:19:08,536 --> 01:19:10,826 because when Mom would see you cry 1000 01:19:11,414 --> 01:19:14,214 she knew she could push your buttons. That's what she wanted. 1001 01:19:14,375 --> 01:19:16,335 And I would not give her that satisfaction. 1002 01:19:16,502 --> 01:19:19,422 When she would hit me, I would look her dead in her face. 1003 01:19:21,674 --> 01:19:25,644 She'd be like, "You better cry. You better cry." 1004 01:19:26,387 --> 01:19:27,387 I wouldn't do it. 1005 01:19:29,474 --> 01:19:31,024 Times got really bad, 1006 01:19:31,768 --> 01:19:34,348 to the point where I thought about committing suicide. 1007 01:19:35,938 --> 01:19:38,398 So, when I was 14, I flew to New York. 1008 01:19:38,858 --> 01:19:41,818 I wound up living with my dad and I never went back. 1009 01:19:45,573 --> 01:19:48,163 After we broke up, a lot of things happened. 1010 01:19:48,326 --> 01:19:49,826 She didn't file taxes. 1011 01:19:49,994 --> 01:19:51,544 She didn't take care of business. 1012 01:19:51,913 --> 01:19:53,463 She lost the house in Mount Vernon. 1013 01:19:53,623 --> 01:19:55,793 Everything went crazy. 1014 01:19:56,834 --> 01:19:58,924 She lived a nomadic life, 1015 01:19:59,086 --> 01:20:01,166 having no manager, having no husband 1016 01:20:01,881 --> 01:20:03,841 but she always said living in Africa 1017 01:20:04,008 --> 01:20:06,178 was the happiest time in her life. 1018 01:20:06,594 --> 01:20:08,434 She could just be there, enjoy herself. 1019 01:20:08,596 --> 01:20:10,426 She didn't have to sing at all. 1020 01:20:10,848 --> 01:20:14,348 She wasn't playing piano and she wasn't performing. 1021 01:20:14,560 --> 01:20:17,020 She said she hated the piano. She hated it. 1022 01:20:18,022 --> 01:20:21,072 Think about it. She's playing since she was four years old. 1023 01:20:22,026 --> 01:20:24,696 On the other hand, she was well aware 1024 01:20:24,862 --> 01:20:26,912 in Africa, no money came in. 1025 01:20:27,156 --> 01:20:29,276 So she had to pick up her career again. 1026 01:20:30,701 --> 01:20:33,871 She didn't want to return to what she called, 1027 01:20:34,163 --> 01:20:36,293 "The United Snakes of America." 1028 01:20:36,499 --> 01:20:37,919 So, she moved to Switzerland, 1029 01:20:38,084 --> 01:20:41,094 which was the complete opposite of Africa. 1030 01:20:41,295 --> 01:20:43,835 The first thing she did was the Montreux concert. 1031 01:21:09,907 --> 01:21:10,907 You on, yeah? 1032 01:21:13,119 --> 01:21:15,039 Do you hear all those noises? 1033 01:21:15,663 --> 01:21:17,373 You didn't forget me, huh? 1034 01:21:17,915 --> 01:21:21,085 That's what's so wild, you didn't forget me. 1035 01:21:24,255 --> 01:21:25,875 I didn't expect you to. 1036 01:21:28,259 --> 01:21:29,509 But I'm tired. 1037 01:21:32,388 --> 01:21:33,968 You don't know what I mean. 1038 01:21:36,350 --> 01:21:38,980 And they are many people in show business who said: 1039 01:21:39,145 --> 01:21:41,645 "You know, she used to be a star. 1040 01:21:41,814 --> 01:21:43,824 She's gone all the way to the bottom" 1041 01:21:43,983 --> 01:21:47,493 and all kinds of crap, which means nothing to me at all. 1042 01:21:49,238 --> 01:21:53,078 I hope that you will see me or see the spirit 1043 01:21:53,451 --> 01:21:57,831 in another sphere, on another plane very soon now. 1044 01:21:58,539 --> 01:22:01,169 And again, I don't wanna let you down and I get this feeling. 1045 01:22:01,334 --> 01:22:05,054 So I think the only way to tell you who I am these days, 1046 01:22:05,630 --> 01:22:09,800 is to sing a song by Janis Ian. 1047 01:22:27,485 --> 01:22:28,645 Hey, girl, sit down. 1048 01:22:29,946 --> 01:22:30,986 Sit down! 1049 01:22:36,869 --> 01:22:37,869 Sit down! 1050 01:25:39,635 --> 01:25:41,635 In Switzerland, I had no money. 1051 01:25:41,971 --> 01:25:43,851 I never got anything from Andy. 1052 01:25:44,014 --> 01:25:47,184 He just cut himself off from me and I was left high and dry. 1053 01:25:47,977 --> 01:25:50,897 So, I left Switzerland and I went to Paris, 1054 01:25:51,063 --> 01:25:53,153 thinking I could resume my career. 1055 01:25:53,315 --> 01:25:57,235 I did it alone. And I landed in the wrong place 1056 01:25:57,736 --> 01:26:01,026 I was working every night in a small café, 1057 01:26:01,282 --> 01:26:02,832 for about $300 a night. 1058 01:26:05,995 --> 01:26:08,155 - Do you speak English? - Yes. 1059 01:26:11,000 --> 01:26:12,170 The show is over. 1060 01:26:12,334 --> 01:26:14,634 No, we just do " Vous Etes Seuls." 1061 01:26:15,004 --> 01:26:16,094 It goes like this. 1062 01:26:21,677 --> 01:26:25,097 I was desperate and no one believed I was there. 1063 01:26:25,264 --> 01:26:28,394 I was too big to be there. No one came to see me. 1064 01:26:28,809 --> 01:26:31,599 I had fallen from grace. 1065 01:26:32,771 --> 01:26:35,071 I'm sorry that I didn't become 1066 01:26:35,232 --> 01:26:38,152 the world's first black classic pianist. 1067 01:26:38,861 --> 01:26:41,281 I think I would have been happier. 1068 01:26:41,530 --> 01:26:43,200 I'm not very happy now. 1069 01:26:44,950 --> 01:26:47,870 I wouldn't change being part of the civil rights movement. 1070 01:26:48,037 --> 01:26:49,077 I wouldn't change that. 1071 01:26:49,622 --> 01:26:52,422 But some of the songs that I sang have hurt my career. 1072 01:26:52,666 --> 01:26:54,246 All of the controversial songs 1073 01:26:54,418 --> 01:26:57,298 the industry decided to punish me for. 1074 01:26:58,214 --> 01:27:00,424 They put a boycott on all of my records, 1075 01:27:01,091 --> 01:27:03,051 and it's... 1076 01:27:05,095 --> 01:27:07,675 hard for me to incorporate those songs any more 1077 01:27:07,848 --> 01:27:09,808 because they are not relevant to the times. 1078 01:27:10,142 --> 01:27:13,102 In terms of the civil rights movement, how far have we come? 1079 01:27:13,479 --> 01:27:15,019 There aren't any civil rights. 1080 01:27:16,523 --> 01:27:17,523 What do you mean? 1081 01:27:17,775 --> 01:27:20,275 There is no reason to sing those songs. 1082 01:27:20,444 --> 01:27:21,614 Nothing is happening. 1083 01:27:21,779 --> 01:27:22,972 There's no civil rights movement. 1084 01:27:23,072 --> 01:27:24,372 Everybody's gone. 1085 01:27:25,991 --> 01:27:30,831 I met Nina in 1967and I've been her friend all her life. 1086 01:27:31,080 --> 01:27:34,380 She called me in 1982 and she was here in Paris, 1087 01:27:34,541 --> 01:27:36,001 living in a very small apartment, 1088 01:27:36,168 --> 01:27:37,628 hardly with any money. 1089 01:27:37,795 --> 01:27:40,415 She did concerts of four hours long at Trois Mailletz, 1090 01:27:41,048 --> 01:27:44,468 that nightclub, and she got a few hundred dollars a night. 1091 01:27:45,386 --> 01:27:46,886 That was the worst period. 1092 01:27:47,054 --> 01:27:51,434 I visited her in that little apartment and it was so dirty. 1093 01:27:51,600 --> 01:27:52,770 I cleaned it all up and... 1094 01:27:53,102 --> 01:27:55,312 "Nina, you can't live like this." 1095 01:27:55,771 --> 01:27:57,941 At that moment, she was still uncontrollable. 1096 01:27:58,857 --> 01:28:01,067 This thing in the Grand Hotel in Paris happened. 1097 01:28:01,235 --> 01:28:03,775 Somebody looked her in the eyes a bit too long, 1098 01:28:03,988 --> 01:28:07,488 She was already a bit nervous and she kind of... 1099 01:28:08,826 --> 01:28:09,906 made a movement, 1100 01:28:10,077 --> 01:28:11,697 and I thought, "She's gonna hit him." 1101 01:28:11,870 --> 01:28:15,330 Immediately, my arms around her and I dragged her out in a taxi. 1102 01:28:15,499 --> 01:28:17,959 I said to the taxi driver, "Drive." 1103 01:28:19,545 --> 01:28:21,005 When I saw her in Paris, 1104 01:28:21,255 --> 01:28:24,295 she was like a street urchin, dressed in rags. 1105 01:28:24,591 --> 01:28:28,431 I couldn't believe what was happening and I was really sad. 1106 01:28:29,930 --> 01:28:32,470 Gerrit and I knew something was very wrong. 1107 01:28:32,933 --> 01:28:35,103 We were trying to figure out, 1108 01:28:35,477 --> 01:28:37,897 "What is it? What is it, really?" 1109 01:28:39,815 --> 01:28:44,605 So Gerrit found her a condo in Nijmegen in Holland 1110 01:28:45,279 --> 01:28:48,569 Gerrit had a friend, a doctor, that he brought to Nina's place 1111 01:28:49,158 --> 01:28:51,908 The doctor examined her and asked her questions, 1112 01:28:52,286 --> 01:28:58,456 and he prescribed a medication, new spectrum, called Trilafon. 1113 01:28:59,793 --> 01:29:01,303 It wasn't until I was in my 20s 1114 01:29:01,462 --> 01:29:03,422 that I went to visit her in Nijmegen. 1115 01:29:03,797 --> 01:29:07,887 That's when I learned the term "manic-depressive"and "bipolar" 1116 01:29:08,052 --> 01:29:09,411 and I remember asking, "What is that? 1117 01:29:09,511 --> 01:29:10,681 What do you mean by that?" 1118 01:29:10,888 --> 01:29:12,598 And her mood swings 1119 01:29:12,848 --> 01:29:14,978 and a lot of the things I dealt with earlier in life 1120 01:29:15,142 --> 01:29:17,522 when one minute she'd be happy, the next minute... 1121 01:29:19,396 --> 01:29:22,066 I'd be dealing with someone that wasn't in the room 1122 01:29:22,232 --> 01:29:23,362 five minutes ago. 1123 01:29:23,859 --> 01:29:25,399 It started to make sense. 1124 01:29:26,362 --> 01:29:29,372 She got so deep in the shit in the end 1125 01:29:29,615 --> 01:29:33,115 that she realised it's either dying or give in. 1126 01:29:33,577 --> 01:29:35,537 And she gave in because we said, "Nina... 1127 01:29:36,288 --> 01:29:39,998 we'll get you a house, we'll get you your musicians, 1128 01:29:40,667 --> 01:29:43,337 we'll make the things all right around you, 1129 01:29:43,837 --> 01:29:45,257 we'll book your concerts, 1130 01:29:46,298 --> 01:29:49,008 but you have to do what we say. 1131 01:29:50,135 --> 01:29:52,425 You have to take your medicine. You have to work. 1132 01:29:52,805 --> 01:29:54,425 God has given you the possibility 1133 01:29:54,598 --> 01:29:56,768 to be able to do what you do, so do it. 1134 01:29:57,101 --> 01:29:59,811 The only thing we want to hear is either 'yes' or 'no'." 1135 01:29:59,978 --> 01:30:02,818 She said, with tears in her eyes, "Yes." 1136 01:30:04,733 --> 01:30:05,823 When I saw her, 1137 01:30:05,984 --> 01:30:08,994 I was very concerned because she had a nervous tic. 1138 01:30:09,905 --> 01:30:12,405 She'd be talking or sitting and this... 1139 01:30:12,574 --> 01:30:14,664 Her mouth would always be twitching. 1140 01:30:14,993 --> 01:30:17,703 When she would walk, it was more of a shuffle. 1141 01:30:18,247 --> 01:30:20,287 And I'm like, "What's going on here?" 1142 01:30:20,707 --> 01:30:24,167 You know, "Why... What's going on? 1143 01:30:24,378 --> 01:30:25,378 What am I missing?" 1144 01:30:25,546 --> 01:30:26,876 And they had her on medication. 1145 01:30:28,257 --> 01:30:31,257 She started taking the Trilafon and the doctor said, 1146 01:30:31,552 --> 01:30:33,602 "Through the years, it's going to have an effect 1147 01:30:33,887 --> 01:30:35,057 on her motor skills. 1148 01:30:35,472 --> 01:30:37,562 Her voice is going to start to slur 1149 01:30:37,808 --> 01:30:40,638 and her piano abilities will decline. 1150 01:30:41,103 --> 01:30:42,403 You can deal with that 1151 01:30:42,563 --> 01:30:46,153 or you can deal with her probably damaging herself 1152 01:30:46,567 --> 01:30:47,777 or someone else." 1153 01:30:49,486 --> 01:30:51,696 But the Trilafon really helped. 1154 01:30:51,947 --> 01:30:55,157 There were times in Holland, sitting on her terrace 1155 01:30:55,784 --> 01:30:58,504 in these lounge chairs and just holding hands... 1156 01:30:58,662 --> 01:31:01,002 She was like... She was my sister 1157 01:31:01,540 --> 01:31:06,210 and not talking at all for hours, just enjoying the day. 1158 01:31:08,422 --> 01:31:11,722 I suppose that medication enabled her to perform 1159 01:31:11,884 --> 01:31:15,144 and fulfil the business dealings that were taking place 1160 01:31:15,345 --> 01:31:17,805 so that her career could get back on track. 1161 01:31:18,015 --> 01:31:19,805 But there were times when I questioned that. 1162 01:31:19,975 --> 01:31:21,185 "But what about her heart?" 1163 01:31:21,351 --> 01:31:22,691 Because at the end of the day, 1164 01:31:22,853 --> 01:31:25,193 you guys got wives and husbands, and lives. 1165 01:31:25,397 --> 01:31:26,817 But she's alone. 1166 01:31:29,234 --> 01:31:32,204 My personal life is a shambles. 1167 01:31:32,446 --> 01:31:37,116 I've had a few love affairs and I would love to be married, 1168 01:31:37,284 --> 01:31:41,294 but everything has had to be sacrificed for the music. 1169 01:31:54,051 --> 01:31:56,431 We had to do, first in Holland, eight concerts, 1170 01:31:56,595 --> 01:31:59,675 and the word spread that Nina's doing the job well. 1171 01:32:00,432 --> 01:32:03,352 Then she was on the road again and it was... poof. 1172 01:32:03,644 --> 01:32:04,774 The business was going. 1173 01:32:07,189 --> 01:32:08,189 She came onstage 1174 01:32:08,357 --> 01:32:11,607 and you had this overwhelming emotional feeling 1175 01:32:11,777 --> 01:32:15,527 coming from the audience, just because she was there. 1176 01:32:17,699 --> 01:32:19,789 Now listen to me. 1177 01:32:20,786 --> 01:32:23,156 I love you very much. I think you know that. 1178 01:32:23,413 --> 01:32:25,083 And I know that you love me. 1179 01:32:25,874 --> 01:32:26,884 I know that. 1180 01:32:29,836 --> 01:32:31,296 We never knew too well 1181 01:32:31,463 --> 01:32:33,723 what was going to happen and how the mood would be. 1182 01:32:34,341 --> 01:32:36,551 So this place is very hot, 1183 01:32:36,760 --> 01:32:39,350 it's very crowded and it's very ugly. 1184 01:32:43,350 --> 01:32:47,230 But she opened her heart and soul at that moment. 1185 01:32:47,396 --> 01:32:49,186 This is a special kind of connection 1186 01:32:49,356 --> 01:32:50,766 she had with an audience. 1187 01:32:51,400 --> 01:32:54,240 This song is popular all over France. 1188 01:32:54,903 --> 01:32:56,993 It's from our first album, 1189 01:32:57,281 --> 01:32:59,741 the very first album we made in this world, 1190 01:33:00,033 --> 01:33:02,243 which is at least 25 years old. 1191 01:33:02,953 --> 01:33:05,123 I only wish I was as wise... 1192 01:33:05,372 --> 01:33:08,382 I could have been as wise then as I have become now. 1193 01:33:10,210 --> 01:33:11,340 I have suffered. 1194 01:33:12,629 --> 01:33:16,009 But there's a Bösendorfer here, so we'll see what happened. 1195 01:33:16,174 --> 01:33:17,884 "My Baby Just Cares For Me." 1196 01:33:24,933 --> 01:33:27,143 She was helped by "My Baby Just Cares For Me", 1197 01:33:27,311 --> 01:33:31,061 that song that became a hit because of the Chanel ad. 1198 01:33:31,398 --> 01:33:34,028 When "My Baby Just Cares For Me" came along, 1199 01:33:34,192 --> 01:33:36,452 I said, "I have to take this opportunity now 1200 01:33:36,653 --> 01:33:39,953 to go all over the world, because it's my last chance." 1201 01:33:40,115 --> 01:33:44,235 So, I worked very hard to take advantage of my second coming 1202 01:33:44,411 --> 01:33:46,751 because it was my last time as far as I was concerned. 1203 01:34:25,702 --> 01:34:29,122 She was happiest doing music. I think that was her salvation. 1204 01:34:29,289 --> 01:34:31,629 That's the one thing she didn't have to think about. 1205 01:34:31,833 --> 01:34:34,593 When she sat at the piano, her fingers could fly. 1206 01:34:40,801 --> 01:34:43,931 She was an anomaly, she was a genius, she was brilliant. 1207 01:34:44,096 --> 01:34:47,306 That brilliance shone through, 1208 01:34:47,557 --> 01:34:49,477 no matter what she was going through. 1209 01:34:49,685 --> 01:34:53,515 Even into her old age, she was brilliant. 1210 01:35:00,320 --> 01:35:03,030 She was genius. She could do whatever she liked. 1211 01:35:03,281 --> 01:35:05,661 And when she didn't have her medicine, 1212 01:35:05,826 --> 01:35:08,996 she, musically, could get even further out. 1213 01:35:17,003 --> 01:35:19,463 In one of those little concerts, and it's recorded, 1214 01:35:19,631 --> 01:35:22,931 she starts playing one song and she sings another. 1215 01:35:23,093 --> 01:35:25,683 At this recording, I made Miles Davis... 1216 01:35:25,846 --> 01:35:26,846 While we were on tour, 1217 01:35:27,013 --> 01:35:29,103 we were on the same jazz tour as Miles Davis... 1218 01:35:29,266 --> 01:35:31,306 And I made him listen to it and he said, 1219 01:35:32,811 --> 01:35:36,111 "Let me listen to it again. How is she doing this?" 1220 01:35:36,481 --> 01:35:38,071 He couldn't understand. 1221 01:35:44,906 --> 01:35:47,026 As I got older, I started to look at her 1222 01:35:47,200 --> 01:35:52,040 and I thought to myself, "Wow, she's from another time." 1223 01:35:52,372 --> 01:35:54,462 But she was not at odds with the time. 1224 01:35:54,624 --> 01:35:56,754 Time was at odds with her. 1225 01:35:57,461 --> 01:35:59,211 I think when a person moves 1226 01:35:59,588 --> 01:36:04,218 to their own kind of clock, spirit, flow, 1227 01:36:04,885 --> 01:36:06,635 if we were living in an environment 1228 01:36:06,803 --> 01:36:09,063 that allowed us to be exactly who we are, 1229 01:36:09,765 --> 01:36:11,555 you're always in congress with yourself. 1230 01:36:11,725 --> 01:36:12,885 The challenge is, 1231 01:36:13,059 --> 01:36:16,229 "How do we fit in in the world that we're around?" 1232 01:36:16,396 --> 01:36:18,896 "Are we allowed to be exactly who we are?" 1233 01:36:19,941 --> 01:36:23,991 "Was Nina Simone allowed to be exactly who she was?" 1234 01:36:25,864 --> 01:36:28,704 As fragile as she was strong, 1235 01:36:28,867 --> 01:36:31,697 as vulnerable as she was dynamic, 1236 01:36:32,496 --> 01:36:34,246 she was African royalty. 1237 01:36:35,540 --> 01:36:38,290 How does royalty stomp around in the mud 1238 01:36:39,419 --> 01:36:41,089 and still walk with grace? 1239 01:36:42,214 --> 01:36:46,384 Most people are afraid to be as honest as she lived. 1240 01:37:01,358 --> 01:37:02,358 Good night! 1241 01:39:03,772 --> 01:39:05,772 All right! 1242 01:39:05,941 --> 01:39:06,941 Whoo! 1243 01:39:17,118 --> 01:39:19,448 It's so hard!