1 00:01:18,700 --> 00:01:23,700 I do want to say that we try to do the story legally. 2 00:01:23,805 --> 00:01:25,033 Shit. 3 00:01:26,208 --> 00:01:29,507 I thought of all the possibilities of what could happen, 4 00:01:29,578 --> 00:01:31,944 and it kept me up at night. 5 00:01:39,521 --> 00:01:42,285 The story that Ric showed me at the beginning 6 00:01:42,357 --> 00:01:44,587 was just the tip of the iceberg. 7 00:03:01,303 --> 00:03:03,999 Here it is... the town of Taiji. 8 00:03:05,674 --> 00:03:08,040 The little town with a really big secret. 9 00:03:10,645 --> 00:03:12,772 It's funny driving into Taiji. 10 00:03:12,848 --> 00:03:15,043 It's kind of like The Twilight Zone. 11 00:03:15,117 --> 00:03:16,880 It's so bizarre 12 00:03:16,952 --> 00:03:19,182 because if you didn't know what's going on over here, 13 00:03:19,254 --> 00:03:22,917 you would think this is a town that loved dolphins and whales. 14 00:03:22,991 --> 00:03:28,224 On our left here is the infamous Taiji Whale Museum. 15 00:03:28,296 --> 00:03:30,821 And I really, really hate this place. 16 00:03:32,334 --> 00:03:34,165 When we first got to Japan, 17 00:03:34,236 --> 00:03:36,261 Ric O'Barry was incredibly frustrated. 18 00:03:36,338 --> 00:03:38,135 He said, "Oh, you have to wear a mask. 19 00:03:38,206 --> 00:03:39,696 Otherwise, they'll know that we're here." 20 00:03:39,775 --> 00:03:41,675 And I thought, okay, all right. 21 00:03:41,743 --> 00:03:43,210 There's the police. 22 00:03:43,278 --> 00:03:45,872 I've got to hunch over and change my shape 23 00:03:45,947 --> 00:03:48,415 so they think I'm just some old Japanese guy. 24 00:03:50,252 --> 00:03:51,879 I thought, you know, what am I doing? 25 00:03:51,953 --> 00:03:54,547 I went halfway across the world to end up in this car, 26 00:03:54,623 --> 00:03:56,352 locked up with this paranoid guy. 27 00:03:56,424 --> 00:03:57,516 Somebody's behind me. 28 00:03:57,592 --> 00:03:59,822 I don't know who that is. 29 00:03:59,895 --> 00:04:01,658 Yep. He's coming. He's coming. 30 00:04:01,730 --> 00:04:02,754 Is he really? 31 00:04:02,831 --> 00:04:05,163 Yeah. I've been doing this too long. 32 00:04:05,233 --> 00:04:08,327 The mayor of this town actually gave me the key to the city. 33 00:04:08,403 --> 00:04:09,927 I was welcome then. 34 00:04:10,005 --> 00:04:12,303 Today they'd kill me if they could. 35 00:04:12,374 --> 00:04:13,898 And I'm not exaggerating. 36 00:04:13,975 --> 00:04:16,443 If these fishermen could catch me and kill me, 37 00:04:16,511 --> 00:04:18,035 they would. 38 00:04:19,347 --> 00:04:21,008 About three years ago, 39 00:04:21,082 --> 00:04:23,346 my friend Jim Clark and I started this organization... 40 00:04:23,418 --> 00:04:26,717 The Oceanic Preservation Society, OPS. 41 00:04:26,788 --> 00:04:29,723 We've been diving for over 35 years, 42 00:04:29,791 --> 00:04:32,817 and you could go back to the same dive spot year after year 43 00:04:32,894 --> 00:04:34,486 and literally see the degradation of the oceans 44 00:04:34,563 --> 00:04:36,292 before your very eyes. 45 00:04:36,364 --> 00:04:39,458 There's major extinctions going on right now in our lifetime. 46 00:04:41,002 --> 00:04:42,230 Jim had the idea 47 00:04:42,304 --> 00:04:44,932 to try to do something about it, to stop this, 48 00:04:45,006 --> 00:04:47,736 so I began documenting reefs around the world. 49 00:04:47,809 --> 00:04:51,074 I went to a marine mammal conference down in San Diego. 50 00:04:51,613 --> 00:04:54,946 There was 2,000 of the world's top marine mammal scientists, 51 00:04:55,016 --> 00:04:58,452 and Ric O'Barry was supposed to be the keynote speaker, 52 00:04:58,520 --> 00:04:59,851 and at the last minute, 53 00:04:59,921 --> 00:05:03,049 the sponsor of the program pulled him from the ticket. 54 00:05:03,124 --> 00:05:04,591 I thought, oh God, that's interesting. 55 00:05:04,659 --> 00:05:05,853 Well, who's the sponsor? 56 00:05:05,927 --> 00:05:08,020 They said, "Sea World." 57 00:05:22,344 --> 00:05:24,778 A lot of marine mammal scientists get their money 58 00:05:24,846 --> 00:05:27,440 from Hub Research Institute, 59 00:05:27,515 --> 00:05:30,848 which is the nonprofit arm of Sea World. 60 00:05:32,420 --> 00:05:34,615 They don't like me. 61 00:05:34,689 --> 00:05:37,658 They don't like my message about captivity, 62 00:05:37,726 --> 00:05:39,318 and they took me off the list. 63 00:05:39,394 --> 00:05:43,455 They wouldn't let me talk about this dolphin slaughter in Taiji. 64 00:05:43,531 --> 00:05:45,829 I said, "Dolphin slaughter? What's... What's that about?" 65 00:05:45,901 --> 00:05:48,392 He says, "Well, I'm going next week. 66 00:05:48,470 --> 00:05:49,596 You want to come?" 67 00:05:52,807 --> 00:05:57,141 Now we're approaching the area that's most important. 68 00:05:59,014 --> 00:06:01,346 That's a dolphin's worst nightmare right there. 69 00:06:02,984 --> 00:06:06,147 Hundreds of thousands of dolphins have died there. 70 00:06:06,221 --> 00:06:10,089 You'll see the signs... "Keep Out," "Danger." 71 00:06:10,158 --> 00:06:13,821 There are fishermen walking around these hills with knives. 72 00:06:13,895 --> 00:06:16,295 This is a national park. 73 00:06:16,364 --> 00:06:17,763 The fishermen told me. 74 00:06:17,832 --> 00:06:21,461 They said, "If the world finds out what goes on here, 75 00:06:21,536 --> 00:06:23,470 we'll be shut down." 76 00:06:23,538 --> 00:06:24,971 Can you imagine that? 77 00:06:25,040 --> 00:06:26,803 They actually told us that. 78 00:06:26,875 --> 00:06:30,367 We knew to get in there and film exactly what happens. 79 00:06:30,445 --> 00:06:32,208 We need to know the truth. 80 00:06:35,317 --> 00:06:37,148 When we got back to the hotel... 81 00:06:37,218 --> 00:06:39,015 It's a big spa hotel, 82 00:06:39,087 --> 00:06:41,317 people going by in robes, 83 00:06:41,389 --> 00:06:45,325 and there's these three undercover cops talking to Ric. 84 00:06:53,768 --> 00:06:54,792 No. 85 00:06:58,306 --> 00:06:59,364 No. 86 00:07:00,442 --> 00:07:01,431 - No. - No? 87 00:07:01,509 --> 00:07:03,170 No. 88 00:07:03,244 --> 00:07:04,370 In the background, 89 00:07:04,446 --> 00:07:07,677 you could see these dolphin boats going by in the window, 90 00:07:07,749 --> 00:07:09,580 and it was just... it was so surreal. 91 00:07:09,651 --> 00:07:11,585 I couldn't... I wanted to laugh, 92 00:07:11,653 --> 00:07:13,518 and I wanted to scream at the same time. 93 00:07:19,794 --> 00:07:21,421 No. No. 94 00:07:22,597 --> 00:07:23,586 Right. I know. 95 00:07:25,166 --> 00:07:26,155 Yeah. 96 00:07:26,234 --> 00:07:27,929 I don't enter. No, no. 97 00:07:29,004 --> 00:07:30,471 Thank you so much, and... 98 00:07:30,538 --> 00:07:31,527 You're welcome. 99 00:07:31,606 --> 00:07:33,471 - See you again. - Okay. Bye-bye. 100 00:07:33,541 --> 00:07:36,772 I never planned on being an activist. 101 00:07:36,845 --> 00:07:38,574 One thing leads to another, 102 00:07:38,646 --> 00:07:41,740 and now if there's a dolphin in trouble 103 00:07:41,816 --> 00:07:43,579 anywhere in the world, 104 00:07:43,651 --> 00:07:44,879 my phone will ring. 105 00:07:47,122 --> 00:07:51,456 Ric is world famous for his work with dolphins. 106 00:07:51,526 --> 00:07:55,257 The first time I connected with him in recent years 107 00:07:55,330 --> 00:07:57,423 was on a trip down to Nicaragua. 108 00:07:58,533 --> 00:07:59,830 There were two dolphins 109 00:07:59,901 --> 00:08:02,199 in a swimming pool filled with their own excrement. 110 00:08:02,270 --> 00:08:06,707 Ric somehow enlisted the military forces of Nicaragua. 111 00:08:06,775 --> 00:08:09,335 The dolphins were put on a helicopter, 112 00:08:09,411 --> 00:08:11,038 and then out to sea we go, 113 00:08:11,112 --> 00:08:12,670 and the dolphins are released. 114 00:08:14,682 --> 00:08:17,412 We're going to capture these dolphins out of the wild 115 00:08:17,485 --> 00:08:18,850 and bring them into captivity. 116 00:08:18,920 --> 00:08:21,980 There are people who will set them free. 117 00:08:23,858 --> 00:08:25,519 In March of this year, 118 00:08:25,593 --> 00:08:28,221 O'Barry was arrested three times in Florida 119 00:08:28,296 --> 00:08:31,026 for trying to free some captive dolphins. 120 00:08:31,099 --> 00:08:33,727 On Earth Day, he was arrested for the same thing 121 00:08:33,802 --> 00:08:35,929 on the Island of Bimini. 122 00:08:36,004 --> 00:08:37,767 How many times have you been arrested? 123 00:08:37,839 --> 00:08:40,103 This year? 124 00:08:41,342 --> 00:08:45,039 Swimmer, you're within a government-authorized test area. 125 00:08:45,113 --> 00:08:47,172 You are holding up a government project. 126 00:08:47,248 --> 00:08:49,113 Do you understand? 127 00:08:49,184 --> 00:08:50,845 God damn it. 128 00:08:53,188 --> 00:08:56,817 A dolphin in the right spot can make a million dollars a year. 129 00:08:56,891 --> 00:08:58,950 There's a lot of money in it. 130 00:08:59,027 --> 00:09:00,289 If you get in their way... 131 00:09:00,361 --> 00:09:01,658 and I get in their way... 132 00:09:01,729 --> 00:09:04,095 it can be very, very dangerous. 133 00:09:05,800 --> 00:09:07,597 Jane Tipson, she was murdered. 134 00:09:07,669 --> 00:09:11,070 She's the second colleague I've worked with that was murdered. 135 00:09:11,139 --> 00:09:12,663 The other one was Jenny May. 136 00:09:12,740 --> 00:09:16,972 We were trying to stop the traffic in Russian dolphins, 137 00:09:17,045 --> 00:09:18,774 and it involved a hunger strike. 138 00:09:18,847 --> 00:09:21,247 About the tenth day, I passed out, 139 00:09:21,316 --> 00:09:22,874 and I went to a hospital there, 140 00:09:22,951 --> 00:09:24,248 so Jenny became a target, 141 00:09:24,319 --> 00:09:26,082 and they followed her down the beach 142 00:09:26,154 --> 00:09:28,315 and strangled her with her own belt. 143 00:09:30,158 --> 00:09:33,525 These dolphins are symbolic of a new day for the environment. 144 00:09:33,595 --> 00:09:36,564 It's all about respect now, not exploitation. 145 00:09:39,934 --> 00:09:41,834 I feel somewhat responsible 146 00:09:41,903 --> 00:09:44,337 because it was the Flipper TV series 147 00:09:44,405 --> 00:09:48,034 that created this multi-billion-dollar industry. 148 00:09:48,109 --> 00:09:52,478 It created this desire to swim with them and kiss them 149 00:09:52,547 --> 00:09:55,175 and hold them and hug them and love them to death, 150 00:09:55,250 --> 00:09:57,377 and it created all these captures. 151 00:10:10,999 --> 00:10:12,864 There were five female dolphins 152 00:10:12,934 --> 00:10:15,164 who collectively played the part of Flipper. 153 00:10:15,236 --> 00:10:17,534 I captured the five dolphins myself. 154 00:10:19,440 --> 00:10:22,898 The entire crew turns to with battle station teamwork. 155 00:10:22,977 --> 00:10:24,535 When the porpoise is sighted, 156 00:10:24,612 --> 00:10:26,671 not a moment can be lost. 157 00:10:26,748 --> 00:10:29,148 The men handle this creature with infinite care. 158 00:10:29,217 --> 00:10:33,153 She seems to sense that she has come home, 159 00:10:33,221 --> 00:10:35,917 that no harm will come to her now. 160 00:10:35,990 --> 00:10:38,049 She is safe. 161 00:10:46,601 --> 00:10:50,093 When I started training dolphins, there was no manual. 162 00:10:50,171 --> 00:10:51,433 I would get the script, 163 00:10:51,506 --> 00:10:55,033 and it says "Flipper goes over to the dock "and picks up the gun 164 00:10:55,109 --> 00:10:57,202 and then swims down left to right." 165 00:10:57,278 --> 00:10:59,872 I had to actually translate that into action somehow. 166 00:10:59,948 --> 00:11:01,176 Thanks, Flipper. 167 00:11:02,584 --> 00:11:04,518 Yeah. Thanks, Flipper. 168 00:11:06,454 --> 00:11:08,547 The thing that really struck me 169 00:11:08,623 --> 00:11:11,251 was that they're smarter than we think they are. 170 00:11:13,595 --> 00:11:15,927 The house that you see on the Flipper set 171 00:11:15,997 --> 00:11:17,123 where the family lives 172 00:11:17,198 --> 00:11:18,426 was actually my house. 173 00:11:18,499 --> 00:11:21,627 I lived there all year round for seven years. 174 00:11:21,703 --> 00:11:23,227 And right in front of the house 175 00:11:23,304 --> 00:11:25,431 there was a lake, salt water lake, 176 00:11:25,506 --> 00:11:28,532 and that's where Flipper was at the end of the dock. 177 00:11:28,610 --> 00:11:32,444 When Flipper came on television at Friday night at 7:30, 178 00:11:32,513 --> 00:11:34,606 I would take my television set from the house 179 00:11:34,682 --> 00:11:36,013 and go down the end of the dock 180 00:11:36,084 --> 00:11:37,574 with a long extension cord, 181 00:11:37,652 --> 00:11:41,110 and Cathy would watch herself on television, 182 00:11:41,189 --> 00:11:44,784 and she could tell the difference between herself and Suzy, 183 00:11:44,859 --> 00:11:47,293 who was another Flipper dolphin that was used. 184 00:11:48,730 --> 00:11:51,893 I knew then they were self-aware, 185 00:11:51,966 --> 00:11:56,266 and when you become conscious of this nonhuman intelligence, 186 00:11:56,337 --> 00:11:59,568 you realize after a while they don't really belong in captivity. 187 00:11:59,641 --> 00:12:02,633 But I didn't do anything about it. 188 00:12:04,178 --> 00:12:07,045 One day, it all ended. 189 00:12:07,115 --> 00:12:10,778 Like the props, they went back to the Miami Seaquarium. 190 00:12:18,393 --> 00:12:21,920 When you just walk into this place and the music is playing, 191 00:12:21,996 --> 00:12:24,362 the dolphin is jumping and smiling, 192 00:12:24,432 --> 00:12:27,026 it's hard to see the problem. 193 00:12:27,101 --> 00:12:32,129 But a dolphin's smile is nature's greatest deception. 194 00:12:32,206 --> 00:12:36,165 It creates the illusion they're always happy. 195 00:12:50,391 --> 00:12:54,191 The nerve center of any dolphinarium is the fish house. 196 00:12:54,262 --> 00:12:56,856 And if you go to any one of these fish houses, 197 00:12:56,931 --> 00:13:00,367 you'll see bottles of Maalox and Tagamet. 198 00:13:00,435 --> 00:13:03,336 And they're used because dolphins get ulcers, 199 00:13:03,404 --> 00:13:05,497 because they're all stressed out. 200 00:13:07,375 --> 00:13:09,570 You have to see them in the wild 201 00:13:09,644 --> 00:13:12,374 to understand why captivity doesn't work. 202 00:13:27,362 --> 00:13:31,731 In the wild, they're traveling 40 miles a day. 203 00:13:31,799 --> 00:13:35,132 They could be surfing in one area in the morning, 204 00:13:35,203 --> 00:13:38,604 and the next hour they could be 25 miles away 205 00:13:38,673 --> 00:13:41,540 feeding or socializing. 206 00:13:42,677 --> 00:13:46,841 Dolphins are acoustic creatures. 207 00:13:46,914 --> 00:13:48,745 That's their primary sense. 208 00:13:51,018 --> 00:13:53,680 The best sonar that man has 209 00:13:53,755 --> 00:13:56,349 is a toy compared to the dolphins' sonar. 210 00:13:56,424 --> 00:13:57,652 When you're in the water, 211 00:13:57,725 --> 00:13:59,420 the dolphins can see right through you. 212 00:13:59,494 --> 00:14:01,962 They can see your heart beating. 213 00:14:02,029 --> 00:14:03,428 They can see your bones. 214 00:14:03,498 --> 00:14:04,829 They can see if you're pregnant. 215 00:14:06,234 --> 00:14:10,796 They get a lot of information with their sound. 216 00:14:11,339 --> 00:14:14,206 The dolphin is captured and put in a concrete tank 217 00:14:14,275 --> 00:14:18,507 surrounded by a stadium full of screaming people. 218 00:14:21,816 --> 00:14:24,683 At the National Aquarium in Baltimore, 219 00:14:24,752 --> 00:14:27,482 when it first opened, dolphins were dying left and right. 220 00:14:27,555 --> 00:14:28,852 They couldn't keep dolphins alive, 221 00:14:28,923 --> 00:14:30,288 and they finally figured out 222 00:14:30,358 --> 00:14:35,295 it's because the filtration system was making a lot of noise. 223 00:14:36,697 --> 00:14:39,257 It's the stress that kills them. 224 00:14:40,768 --> 00:14:43,100 So they're very sensitive to sound. 225 00:14:43,171 --> 00:14:45,162 That's their primary sense, 226 00:14:45,239 --> 00:14:48,902 and that's their downfall in Taiji. 227 00:14:55,082 --> 00:14:57,175 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7... 228 00:14:57,251 --> 00:14:58,479 There's 12 of them. 229 00:14:58,553 --> 00:15:00,680 This is a classic drive, 230 00:15:00,755 --> 00:15:02,347 what you're watching here. 231 00:15:03,558 --> 00:15:04,991 There are migratory routes 232 00:15:05,059 --> 00:15:07,892 that dolphins have been using for thousands of years, 233 00:15:07,962 --> 00:15:10,760 and they just wait till the dolphins come by. 234 00:15:10,832 --> 00:15:13,699 The boats then put these long poles in the water 235 00:15:13,768 --> 00:15:16,828 which have a flange on the bottom, 236 00:15:16,904 --> 00:15:20,431 and they just bang on these poles with hammers, 237 00:15:20,508 --> 00:15:25,810 and they create a wall of sound which frightens the dolphins. 238 00:15:28,015 --> 00:15:31,280 There were several hundred dolphins being driven ashore. 239 00:15:31,352 --> 00:15:33,820 I'd never seen so many dolphins before, 240 00:15:33,888 --> 00:15:36,516 and they were all running for their lives, 241 00:15:36,591 --> 00:15:38,388 running from this wall of sound. 242 00:15:40,528 --> 00:15:43,964 I think I can actually hear the banging, 243 00:15:44,031 --> 00:15:45,498 but I hear it all the time. 244 00:15:45,566 --> 00:15:47,124 I hear it in my sleep. 245 00:15:47,201 --> 00:15:50,034 That sound never goes away once you hear it. 246 00:15:51,539 --> 00:15:53,268 By the time they get to the lagoon, 247 00:15:53,341 --> 00:15:56,674 they're totally freaked out, stressed out to the max. 248 00:15:56,744 --> 00:15:59,110 They seal it, then they go home. 249 00:16:00,581 --> 00:16:01,809 The next morning, 250 00:16:01,883 --> 00:16:04,545 all of these dolphin trainers will be lined up 251 00:16:04,619 --> 00:16:09,249 selecting the ones that they want for the dolphinariums. 252 00:16:24,472 --> 00:16:27,100 They're looking for bottlenose dolphin, primarily. 253 00:16:27,174 --> 00:16:28,698 They're looking for Flipper, 254 00:16:28,776 --> 00:16:31,472 and so they collect young females, 255 00:16:31,546 --> 00:16:33,741 just like we did for the Flipper show. 256 00:16:35,216 --> 00:16:39,016 And they're flown to different parts of the world. 257 00:17:00,775 --> 00:17:04,267 I could have my own dolphin facility somewhere in the Caribbean 258 00:17:04,345 --> 00:17:05,903 and be making 2 or 3 million dollars a year 259 00:17:05,980 --> 00:17:08,642 like these guys, if I wanted to. 260 00:17:08,716 --> 00:17:10,843 But I walked away from that. 261 00:17:12,453 --> 00:17:14,785 The thing that turned me around 262 00:17:14,855 --> 00:17:17,949 was the death of Flipper, of Cathy. 263 00:17:19,660 --> 00:17:22,993 She was really depressed. I could feel it. 264 00:17:23,064 --> 00:17:25,157 I could see it. 265 00:17:25,232 --> 00:17:28,565 And she committed suicide in my arms. 266 00:17:28,636 --> 00:17:32,037 That's a very strong word, suicide. 267 00:17:32,106 --> 00:17:33,573 But you have to understand 268 00:17:33,641 --> 00:17:38,203 dolphins and other whales are not automatic air breathers, 269 00:17:38,279 --> 00:17:39,678 like we are. 270 00:17:39,747 --> 00:17:43,308 Every breath they take is a conscious effort. 271 00:17:43,384 --> 00:17:45,614 And so they can end their life 272 00:17:45,686 --> 00:17:49,019 whenever life becomes too unbearable 273 00:17:49,090 --> 00:17:51,524 by not taking the next breath. 274 00:17:51,592 --> 00:17:54,584 And it's in that context I use the word suicide. 275 00:17:54,662 --> 00:17:56,186 She did that. 276 00:17:56,263 --> 00:17:58,026 She swam into my arms 277 00:17:58,099 --> 00:17:59,566 and looked me right in the eye 278 00:17:59,634 --> 00:18:01,659 and... took a breath... 279 00:18:02,937 --> 00:18:04,063 and didn't take another one. 280 00:18:05,272 --> 00:18:06,671 I just let her go, 281 00:18:06,741 --> 00:18:11,144 and she sank straight down on her belly to the bottom of the tank. 282 00:18:13,814 --> 00:18:17,215 The next day, I was in the Bimini jail 283 00:18:17,284 --> 00:18:21,243 for trying to free a dolphin at the Lerner Marine Laboratory. 284 00:18:21,322 --> 00:18:24,223 That's how I reacted to it. 285 00:18:24,291 --> 00:18:27,852 I was going to free every captive dolphin I could. 286 00:18:29,997 --> 00:18:32,295 I spent ten years building that industry up. 287 00:18:32,366 --> 00:18:38,236 And I spent the last 35 years trying to tear it down. 288 00:18:41,008 --> 00:18:44,273 When I started out, there were only three dolphinariums. 289 00:18:46,547 --> 00:18:50,074 Today it's become a multi-billion-dollar industry. 290 00:18:51,886 --> 00:18:54,514 In all of these captures, 291 00:18:54,588 --> 00:18:59,548 we helped create the largest slaughter of dolphins on the planet. 292 00:19:03,864 --> 00:19:07,891 Anyone can watch the capture process go on from the road. 293 00:19:07,968 --> 00:19:09,401 But Ric pointed out 294 00:19:09,470 --> 00:19:11,495 where they take the boats around to the secret cove 295 00:19:11,572 --> 00:19:16,134 that nobody could see where dolphins that weren't selected 296 00:19:16,210 --> 00:19:19,976 are slaughtered and sold for their meat. 297 00:19:31,692 --> 00:19:34,024 Here in Taiji, 298 00:19:34,095 --> 00:19:37,758 you can go to the Whale Museum and watch the dolphin show 299 00:19:37,832 --> 00:19:39,891 and eat a dolphin at the same time. 300 00:19:39,967 --> 00:19:43,994 They sell dolphin and whale meat right in the dolphinarium. 301 00:19:49,510 --> 00:19:54,538 It's the captivity industry that keeps this slaughter going 302 00:19:54,615 --> 00:19:58,483 by rewarding the fishermen for their bad behavior. 303 00:19:58,552 --> 00:20:01,715 They only get $600 for a dead dolphin, 304 00:20:01,789 --> 00:20:07,091 but they can get more than $150,000 for a live show dolphin. 305 00:20:09,396 --> 00:20:12,832 I told Ric that I'd help him out, 306 00:20:12,900 --> 00:20:15,266 that we'll fix this, we'll change this. 307 00:20:16,837 --> 00:20:18,395 And I didn't tell him how 308 00:20:18,472 --> 00:20:21,600 because I really didn't know how we were going to do it. 309 00:20:21,675 --> 00:20:25,304 There are lots of groups here in Japan... 310 00:20:25,379 --> 00:20:27,813 World Wildlife Fund, Greenpeace, 311 00:20:27,882 --> 00:20:30,214 International Fund for Animal Welfare. 312 00:20:30,284 --> 00:20:33,720 They all make hundreds of millions of dollars between them. 313 00:20:33,788 --> 00:20:36,256 This is the largest slaughter of dolphins in the world. 314 00:20:36,323 --> 00:20:37,551 Where are they? 315 00:20:40,127 --> 00:20:41,651 There is one organization 316 00:20:41,729 --> 00:20:45,221 whose sole purpose is to protect all cetaceans in the wild. 317 00:20:45,299 --> 00:20:46,459 That's the IWC... 318 00:20:46,534 --> 00:20:48,024 the International Whaling Commission. 319 00:20:48,102 --> 00:20:49,296 But for some reason, 320 00:20:49,370 --> 00:20:53,136 small cetaceans, dolphins and porpoises, aren't protected. 321 00:20:53,207 --> 00:20:56,108 Dolphins are whales. 322 00:20:56,177 --> 00:20:58,441 Size doesn't matter. 323 00:20:58,512 --> 00:21:02,346 The IWC will go down in history as a ship of fools. 324 00:21:02,416 --> 00:21:04,316 There's no... There's no democracy here 325 00:21:04,385 --> 00:21:06,512 by any stretch of the imagination. 326 00:21:06,587 --> 00:21:08,714 They do whatever the hell they want to do. 327 00:21:12,393 --> 00:21:14,384 Mr. O'Barry, you know I'm here. 328 00:21:14,461 --> 00:21:15,519 Yeah? 329 00:21:15,596 --> 00:21:18,121 I have to ask you to leave the hotel. 330 00:21:18,199 --> 00:21:19,723 You could have waited till morning, but... 331 00:21:19,800 --> 00:21:22,735 Sir, I asked you very nicely to turn off your camera. 332 00:21:22,803 --> 00:21:27,103 The reason why small cetaceans are not popular with the IWC 333 00:21:27,174 --> 00:21:29,802 is because the whaling nations that set this thing up 334 00:21:29,877 --> 00:21:32,471 clearly has the best interest in leaving those out, 335 00:21:32,546 --> 00:21:34,741 particularly if they happen to be eating them. 336 00:21:36,550 --> 00:21:40,509 Joji Marshita is the Deputy Commissioner for Whaling. 337 00:21:40,588 --> 00:21:44,922 He's a talented guy from Japan with a real hard job to do. 338 00:21:44,992 --> 00:21:46,516 He has to get up every day. 339 00:21:46,594 --> 00:21:48,323 First he'll look at himself in the mirror, 340 00:21:48,395 --> 00:21:49,862 and then he's got to go out 341 00:21:49,930 --> 00:21:54,060 and explain to the world Japan's whaling policy. 342 00:21:54,134 --> 00:21:56,602 Very complicated subject to get around. 343 00:21:56,670 --> 00:21:59,230 It's clear the issue of whaling 344 00:21:59,306 --> 00:22:01,501 is becoming more of emotions. 345 00:22:01,575 --> 00:22:05,170 We have never had a convincing reason 346 00:22:05,246 --> 00:22:07,271 why this species is so special. 347 00:22:26,901 --> 00:22:28,163 The International Whaling Commission 348 00:22:28,235 --> 00:22:30,465 is the only international body dealing with whales 349 00:22:30,537 --> 00:22:33,233 that's officially recognized by the United Nations. 350 00:22:33,307 --> 00:22:36,105 It's basically a toothless organization, 351 00:22:36,176 --> 00:22:38,474 but it is the only organization that does exist. 352 00:22:48,222 --> 00:22:49,314 Well, there's a clause 353 00:22:49,390 --> 00:22:51,221 in the International Whaling Convention 354 00:22:51,292 --> 00:22:54,989 that allows a nation to take whales for science, 355 00:22:55,062 --> 00:22:58,930 and Japan has decided that that's its loophole. 356 00:22:58,999 --> 00:23:01,467 Currently, Japan has research programs 357 00:23:01,535 --> 00:23:03,662 that involve killing minke whales, 358 00:23:03,737 --> 00:23:06,934 fin whales, sei whales, and humpback whales. 359 00:23:07,007 --> 00:23:09,601 Every scientific catch, to me, 360 00:23:09,677 --> 00:23:12,646 is a dark spot on the record of this commission. 361 00:23:12,713 --> 00:23:17,514 They're talking about the 1,000 whales in the Antarctic. 362 00:23:17,584 --> 00:23:18,983 They're not talking about 363 00:23:19,053 --> 00:23:21,715 the 23,000 over here being slaughtered. 364 00:23:21,789 --> 00:23:23,256 The IWC has presided 365 00:23:23,324 --> 00:23:24,848 over one of the greatest 366 00:23:24,925 --> 00:23:26,517 environmental catastrophes of all time. 367 00:23:26,593 --> 00:23:29,289 The reality is the International Whaling Commission 368 00:23:29,363 --> 00:23:31,194 does have a mandate 369 00:23:31,265 --> 00:23:33,859 to look at issues affecting dolphins, 370 00:23:33,934 --> 00:23:37,267 but the Japanese are trying to legitimize a practice 371 00:23:37,338 --> 00:23:40,102 that just about every country in the world has said no to. 372 00:23:40,174 --> 00:23:42,142 Governments are really great 373 00:23:42,209 --> 00:23:43,870 at getting together and holding meetings 374 00:23:43,944 --> 00:23:45,536 and conferences and glad-handing each other, 375 00:23:45,612 --> 00:23:47,773 but they never ever seem to accomplish anything. 376 00:23:47,848 --> 00:23:49,975 It's as Margaret Mead once said... 377 00:23:50,050 --> 00:23:52,541 never ever depend upon governments or institutions 378 00:23:52,619 --> 00:23:54,109 to solve any major problem. 379 00:23:54,188 --> 00:23:56,850 All social change comes from the passion of individuals. 380 00:23:56,924 --> 00:24:01,190 If saving cetacean species from extinction 381 00:24:01,261 --> 00:24:03,286 relies upon the International Whaling Commission, 382 00:24:03,364 --> 00:24:05,423 then there is no hope. 383 00:24:13,007 --> 00:24:14,338 During the Greek era, 384 00:24:14,408 --> 00:24:17,707 it was punishable by death to harm a dolphin. 385 00:24:17,778 --> 00:24:18,870 They were protected, 386 00:24:18,946 --> 00:24:20,538 and they were protected 387 00:24:20,614 --> 00:24:23,082 because there's a lot of stories throughout history 388 00:24:23,150 --> 00:24:25,846 of dolphins saving the lives of humans. 389 00:24:28,889 --> 00:24:33,758 There's some real magic there when you're on a wave together. 390 00:24:33,827 --> 00:24:35,556 There's this other species 391 00:24:35,629 --> 00:24:38,029 that you can't consciously communicate with, 392 00:24:38,098 --> 00:24:40,293 and you're both experiencing a thing 393 00:24:40,367 --> 00:24:41,959 that's purely for joy 394 00:24:42,036 --> 00:24:44,869 beyond the level of survival. 395 00:24:44,938 --> 00:24:48,032 I went surfing on the east coast of Australia. 396 00:24:48,108 --> 00:24:49,803 About half an hour into the session, 397 00:24:49,877 --> 00:24:51,640 I was sitting with this friend of mine, 398 00:24:51,712 --> 00:24:53,077 and he goes, "Wait," 399 00:24:53,147 --> 00:24:56,605 and on the surface of the next wave was a tiger shark. 400 00:24:56,683 --> 00:25:01,017 Its fins were down, and it was in the zone. 401 00:25:01,088 --> 00:25:03,682 This thing was literally 2 meters away from me, 402 00:25:03,757 --> 00:25:06,248 and I look down, and right there... 403 00:25:06,326 --> 00:25:08,351 it's like in a glass case in a wall... 404 00:25:08,429 --> 00:25:10,363 this dolphin comes out of right field 405 00:25:10,431 --> 00:25:11,830 and T-bones this shark 406 00:25:11,899 --> 00:25:14,333 and pushes it directly away from me and my buddy. 407 00:25:16,670 --> 00:25:17,762 In that moment... 408 00:25:17,838 --> 00:25:22,036 That's the most obvious demonstration of the connection in my life. 409 00:25:24,278 --> 00:25:26,337 A few years ago, a friend of mine told me 410 00:25:26,413 --> 00:25:29,507 about what was going on in Japan. 411 00:25:29,583 --> 00:25:33,212 23,000 are being wiped out every year, 412 00:25:33,287 --> 00:25:36,017 and it's not even acknowledged. 413 00:25:37,224 --> 00:25:40,625 Nobody has actually seen what takes place back there, 414 00:25:40,694 --> 00:25:43,561 and so the way to stop it is to expose it. 415 00:25:43,630 --> 00:25:45,461 They've already told us that... 416 00:25:45,532 --> 00:25:46,897 "Don't take pictures." 417 00:25:46,967 --> 00:25:48,832 The sign says "Don't take pictures." 418 00:25:48,902 --> 00:25:53,100 And so the way to stop it is keep exposing this to the world. 419 00:25:53,173 --> 00:25:55,368 Eventually, the Japanese government will say 420 00:25:55,442 --> 00:25:57,842 "Look, this is not working. It's a PR nightmare." 421 00:25:57,911 --> 00:25:59,435 No! No photograph. 422 00:26:01,115 --> 00:26:03,675 I brought the BBC, The London Times, 423 00:26:03,750 --> 00:26:05,217 Time Magazine, 424 00:26:05,285 --> 00:26:07,082 and everybody goes away empty-handed. 425 00:26:08,689 --> 00:26:10,088 No photos, okay? 426 00:26:14,328 --> 00:26:16,193 They're afraid of cameras. 427 00:26:16,263 --> 00:26:18,493 One morning I didn't have my camera, 428 00:26:18,565 --> 00:26:20,089 and a couple guys from the boat, 429 00:26:20,167 --> 00:26:22,601 they took a baby dolphin up and cut its throat. 430 00:26:22,669 --> 00:26:25,763 It was already dead, but they held it up and cut its throat, 431 00:26:25,839 --> 00:26:27,397 and they were just trying to get me angry, 432 00:26:27,808 --> 00:26:28,638 and I almost hit this guy. 433 00:26:29,176 --> 00:26:30,541 He got right in my face. 434 00:26:30,611 --> 00:26:32,135 We called him Private Space. 435 00:26:32,212 --> 00:26:34,874 That's the only two words he knows in English... 436 00:26:34,948 --> 00:26:36,245 private space. 437 00:26:36,316 --> 00:26:37,305 Private! 438 00:26:37,384 --> 00:26:38,874 And he got right in my face, 439 00:26:38,952 --> 00:26:40,442 and he's screaming at me with a camera. 440 00:26:40,521 --> 00:26:41,818 He wanted me to hit him. 441 00:26:41,889 --> 00:26:43,413 I mean, he just egged me on, 442 00:26:43,490 --> 00:26:45,515 and I almost... man, I almost decked this guy 443 00:26:45,592 --> 00:26:47,423 and knocked him off that rock. 444 00:26:47,494 --> 00:26:49,018 That's what they want you to do... 445 00:26:49,096 --> 00:26:52,156 hit them or do something to get you out of here. 446 00:26:52,232 --> 00:26:53,995 The only way they can get us out of here 447 00:26:54,067 --> 00:26:56,228 is get us arrested and get it on video. 448 00:26:56,303 --> 00:26:58,294 I spend most of my time 449 00:26:58,372 --> 00:27:03,309 trying to keep from getting arrested on bogus charges. 450 00:27:03,377 --> 00:27:04,742 They spend most of their time 451 00:27:04,811 --> 00:27:07,075 trying to arrest us on bogus charges 452 00:27:07,147 --> 00:27:09,115 and get us out of the game. 453 00:27:11,218 --> 00:27:15,086 In 2003, I sent a crew to Taiji. 454 00:27:15,155 --> 00:27:17,453 Their objective was to just get evidence to film 455 00:27:17,524 --> 00:27:19,515 and see what's going on there. 456 00:27:19,593 --> 00:27:21,561 They got into the water and cut the nets 457 00:27:21,628 --> 00:27:23,721 and released some pilot whales and dolphins 458 00:27:23,797 --> 00:27:26,095 and were immediately arrested for that. 459 00:27:26,166 --> 00:27:27,793 Come on! 460 00:27:27,868 --> 00:27:29,165 That actually worked out 461 00:27:29,236 --> 00:27:30,533 to show that we were determined 462 00:27:30,604 --> 00:27:32,128 to protect the lives of these animals, 463 00:27:32,206 --> 00:27:34,572 but of course it made it very difficult to return. 464 00:27:38,278 --> 00:27:40,769 In 2007, when I wanted to do something 465 00:27:40,847 --> 00:27:42,610 to expose the issue, 466 00:27:42,683 --> 00:27:43,843 I was shocked 467 00:27:43,917 --> 00:27:46,112 that I was the only surfer in my surfing community 468 00:27:46,186 --> 00:27:47,517 that knew about this, 469 00:27:47,588 --> 00:27:50,216 so Hayden Panettiere, Isabel Lucas, 470 00:27:50,290 --> 00:27:52,121 we all connected, and we made the decision, 471 00:27:52,192 --> 00:27:53,784 okay, we're going to paddle out. 472 00:27:53,860 --> 00:27:55,555 No one's going to be aggressive. 473 00:27:55,629 --> 00:27:58,962 And they got really fired up. 474 00:28:00,867 --> 00:28:02,198 We had to pull the pin. 475 00:28:02,269 --> 00:28:03,566 There was nothing we could do, 476 00:28:03,637 --> 00:28:05,764 nothing more we could do in that scenario. 477 00:28:14,047 --> 00:28:16,811 You see, this is like a cat and mouse game. 478 00:28:16,883 --> 00:28:18,043 Those particular activists, 479 00:28:18,118 --> 00:28:21,019 they were arrested right here in this very spot. 480 00:28:21,088 --> 00:28:22,646 Now they can never come back. 481 00:28:22,723 --> 00:28:24,190 They're out of the game. 482 00:28:26,059 --> 00:28:28,357 My heart went out to them. 483 00:28:28,428 --> 00:28:30,658 I watched Flipper as a child. 484 00:28:30,731 --> 00:28:32,631 I grew to love the oceans partly because of Flipper. 485 00:28:32,699 --> 00:28:34,428 We are going to stop this. 486 00:28:34,501 --> 00:28:36,401 We're going to stop this. 487 00:28:36,470 --> 00:28:38,961 And here's the guy that started it all. 488 00:28:39,039 --> 00:28:41,269 He's trying to rectify this huge problem, 489 00:28:41,341 --> 00:28:43,332 but he can't find anybody to help him. 490 00:28:44,544 --> 00:28:47,479 If we could just get in there, we can stop this. 491 00:28:51,018 --> 00:28:53,919 The first guy I called was my buddy Charles Hambleton. 492 00:28:53,987 --> 00:28:56,114 He's a adrenaline junkie. 493 00:28:56,189 --> 00:28:58,248 He's been sail master on The Pirates of the Caribbean. 494 00:28:58,325 --> 00:29:00,885 He's traveled all over the world on photo assignments. 495 00:29:00,961 --> 00:29:02,792 He's the guy that has a heart of gold 496 00:29:02,863 --> 00:29:04,854 and nerves of steel. He'll do anything. 497 00:29:07,801 --> 00:29:10,964 I remember distinctly a phone call 498 00:29:11,038 --> 00:29:13,336 saying I needed to be in Japan. 499 00:29:14,574 --> 00:29:16,701 We stepped off the train in Taiji, 500 00:29:16,777 --> 00:29:19,302 and we were immediately met by Ric O'Barry, 501 00:29:19,379 --> 00:29:21,438 along with the police. 502 00:29:21,515 --> 00:29:22,914 I'm not entirely sure 503 00:29:22,983 --> 00:29:25,042 Louis knew what he was getting himself into. 504 00:29:26,620 --> 00:29:28,019 On our initial trip to Japan, 505 00:29:28,088 --> 00:29:31,421 we had a formal meeting in the town mayor's office 506 00:29:31,491 --> 00:29:32,788 with the fishing union 507 00:29:32,859 --> 00:29:35,054 and with all the proper authorities. 508 00:29:35,128 --> 00:29:39,030 We spent seven hours trying to negotiate an arrangement 509 00:29:39,099 --> 00:29:40,794 where we would try to be respectful of their side. 510 00:29:40,867 --> 00:29:43,961 That was the point to me, is get both sides. 511 00:29:44,037 --> 00:29:48,474 And we started to realize that they were hiding something. 512 00:29:48,542 --> 00:29:50,840 You have to get permission to get a permit 513 00:29:50,911 --> 00:29:52,173 to get permission to do... 514 00:29:52,245 --> 00:29:55,737 and nobody wants to do anything without permission. 515 00:29:55,816 --> 00:29:58,478 After two days of negotiations, 516 00:29:58,552 --> 00:30:00,986 they said, "We're not going to let you do it," 517 00:30:01,054 --> 00:30:02,783 and they put a map on the table 518 00:30:02,856 --> 00:30:04,983 and pointed with these red X's on the map. 519 00:30:05,058 --> 00:30:07,549 and said, "Don't go here, don't go here, 520 00:30:07,627 --> 00:30:09,254 don't go here, don't go here." 521 00:30:09,329 --> 00:30:10,523 And then Charles said... 522 00:30:10,597 --> 00:30:12,724 "Could we just hang on to that for reference, 523 00:30:12,799 --> 00:30:15,267 just so we know where we're not supposed to be?" 524 00:30:15,335 --> 00:30:16,563 That kind of thing. 525 00:30:16,636 --> 00:30:21,664 And that became sort of our template of where we had to go. 526 00:30:27,848 --> 00:30:30,874 The secret cove is a natural fortress. 527 00:30:30,951 --> 00:30:34,717 It's surrounded on three sides by steep cliffs. 528 00:30:36,523 --> 00:30:37,785 There are several tunnels 529 00:30:37,858 --> 00:30:39,723 that you need to get through to get there. 530 00:30:41,128 --> 00:30:44,996 High fences surrounded by razor ribbon. 531 00:30:48,168 --> 00:30:51,535 I've traveled all over the world throughout my entire life, 532 00:30:51,605 --> 00:30:54,597 and the coastline is majestic. 533 00:30:54,674 --> 00:30:58,872 It's astounding to think that this horror happens 534 00:30:58,945 --> 00:31:01,812 in one of the most beautiful places. 535 00:31:03,483 --> 00:31:05,280 We snuck up to this park. 536 00:31:05,352 --> 00:31:06,819 It was called Tsunami Park. 537 00:31:06,887 --> 00:31:09,151 It was blockaded, but we went up there. 538 00:31:09,222 --> 00:31:11,816 The only safe time to go in Tsunami Park 539 00:31:11,892 --> 00:31:14,087 is when there are no dolphins in the lagoon. 540 00:31:14,161 --> 00:31:16,493 Then there are no guards around. 541 00:31:16,563 --> 00:31:19,691 Ric pointed down to the secret lagoon, 542 00:31:19,766 --> 00:31:23,133 and he said, "That's where all the dirty business happens." 543 00:31:23,203 --> 00:31:24,795 The cops were on our tail, 544 00:31:24,871 --> 00:31:26,600 and I thought, let's get out of here. 545 00:31:26,673 --> 00:31:27,833 We'll try to regroup. 546 00:31:27,908 --> 00:31:30,934 So we went off to do some sightseeing outside Taiji. 547 00:31:33,580 --> 00:31:35,639 All these beautiful temples are there, 548 00:31:35,715 --> 00:31:38,445 some of the most beautiful temples in all of Japan. 549 00:31:40,220 --> 00:31:42,745 In one of these temples, they have a dry rock garden 550 00:31:42,823 --> 00:31:44,654 where the monks rake these rocks, 551 00:31:44,724 --> 00:31:46,715 and in the center they have these rocks 552 00:31:46,793 --> 00:31:49,956 that people come from all over the world to contemplate. 553 00:31:50,030 --> 00:31:51,190 It was gorgeous, 554 00:31:51,264 --> 00:31:52,822 but I thought, in America, 555 00:31:52,899 --> 00:31:57,268 people would never go on a Sunday to watch rocks. 556 00:31:58,705 --> 00:32:01,367 Suddenly I got this idea. 557 00:32:01,441 --> 00:32:03,636 What if the rocks looked back? 558 00:32:11,184 --> 00:32:13,778 This was a big waterfall set 559 00:32:13,854 --> 00:32:16,721 that we constructed for the movie Evan Almighty. 560 00:32:16,790 --> 00:32:18,781 A dam breaks and floods 561 00:32:18,859 --> 00:32:20,884 and takes the... washes the road out and... 562 00:32:20,961 --> 00:32:22,952 One of my best friends and my first assistant 563 00:32:23,029 --> 00:32:24,997 was a guy that became the head mold maker 564 00:32:25,065 --> 00:32:26,555 at Industrial Light and Magic, 565 00:32:26,633 --> 00:32:30,160 so I called up and said, "I've got this idea for a project. 566 00:32:30,237 --> 00:32:32,398 "I want to hide Hi-Def cameras in a rock. 567 00:32:32,472 --> 00:32:33,530 Can you help us?" 568 00:32:37,944 --> 00:32:40,174 Is that what you had in mind? 569 00:32:40,247 --> 00:32:41,578 It's a work of art, man. 570 00:32:41,648 --> 00:32:43,548 We can do all of them brown if you want, 571 00:32:43,617 --> 00:32:45,812 or we can do a combination of brown and gray. 572 00:32:45,886 --> 00:32:47,615 I think brown and gray would be better. 573 00:32:47,687 --> 00:32:49,951 I think this is going to be a primary for us 574 00:32:50,023 --> 00:32:51,183 that these are all gray. 575 00:32:51,258 --> 00:32:52,555 I would try to keep them 576 00:32:52,626 --> 00:32:54,389 as lower of a profile as possible because... 577 00:32:54,461 --> 00:32:56,486 We needed a special group of people 578 00:32:56,563 --> 00:32:57,860 to implement this mission. 579 00:32:57,931 --> 00:33:01,332 We needed people with a special set of skills. 580 00:33:01,401 --> 00:33:02,925 I started to set up this team, 581 00:33:03,003 --> 00:33:05,164 this... sort of this Ocean's Eleven team. 582 00:33:06,806 --> 00:33:08,034 Simon Hutchins, 583 00:33:08,108 --> 00:33:09,837 the only guy that had military experience. 584 00:33:09,910 --> 00:33:12,538 Simon created all these weird ways 585 00:33:12,612 --> 00:33:14,773 to hide Hi-Def cameras and hydrophones. 586 00:33:14,848 --> 00:33:16,873 You know, he's a mad genius. 587 00:33:16,950 --> 00:33:18,884 If we could dream it, Simon could build it. 588 00:33:20,353 --> 00:33:22,218 Joe Chisolm organized rock concerts, 589 00:33:22,289 --> 00:33:24,257 and we were kind of like a rock concert... 590 00:33:24,324 --> 00:33:25,552 you know, incognito. 591 00:33:25,625 --> 00:33:29,117 You know, we had hundreds of cases of material 592 00:33:29,195 --> 00:33:30,787 that we had to import into Japan, 593 00:33:30,864 --> 00:33:32,525 and he did the logistics. 594 00:33:32,599 --> 00:33:34,157 Louis came back, and he said, "Look, 595 00:33:34,234 --> 00:33:35,292 we got to get in," 596 00:33:35,368 --> 00:33:36,665 and Louis and I started discussing 597 00:33:36,736 --> 00:33:38,727 all of the ways that we can film it. 598 00:33:38,805 --> 00:33:41,638 We had a military grade thermal camera, 599 00:33:41,708 --> 00:33:43,767 which you're not allowed to bring out of the country. 600 00:33:43,843 --> 00:33:46,311 If it has a pulse, the thermal camera picks it up. 601 00:33:46,379 --> 00:33:49,644 One thing that we had decided to do is get some aerial footage, 602 00:33:49,716 --> 00:33:53,208 so we decided to take our own helicopter with us. 603 00:33:53,286 --> 00:33:56,221 We looked into, you know, commandeering a satellite 604 00:33:56,289 --> 00:33:57,916 to do satellite pictures. 605 00:33:57,991 --> 00:34:01,222 We decided to make our own unmanned drone 606 00:34:01,294 --> 00:34:04,263 with a gyro-stabilized Hi-Def camera below it. 607 00:34:04,331 --> 00:34:06,265 We actually named it Cathy, 608 00:34:06,333 --> 00:34:09,097 and that was purely out of respect for Ric O'Barry. 609 00:34:09,169 --> 00:34:10,568 The idea there was 610 00:34:10,637 --> 00:34:15,074 that even if the blimp didn't succeed and we got caught 611 00:34:15,141 --> 00:34:17,803 that everybody loves a balloon... 612 00:34:17,877 --> 00:34:20,038 you know, kids, police, everyone. 613 00:34:22,482 --> 00:34:25,383 One of these devices that was very important to Louis and I 614 00:34:25,452 --> 00:34:27,511 is the hydrophone... high tech sound devices 615 00:34:27,587 --> 00:34:29,282 put in underwater housing. 616 00:34:29,356 --> 00:34:31,324 I wanted to hear the dolphins from the lagoon, 617 00:34:31,391 --> 00:34:33,086 but we didn't know how deep it was. 618 00:34:33,159 --> 00:34:34,251 We had rebreathers, 619 00:34:34,327 --> 00:34:35,851 but it would be clanky, it would be noisy. 620 00:34:35,929 --> 00:34:39,262 Mandy-Rae Cruickshank and Kirk Krack 621 00:34:39,332 --> 00:34:42,096 are world class freedivers. 622 00:34:42,168 --> 00:34:43,965 Freediving in its simplest terms, 623 00:34:44,037 --> 00:34:46,005 it's like deep snorkeling. 624 00:34:46,072 --> 00:34:48,438 On one breath we see how deep we can go in the ocean, 625 00:34:48,508 --> 00:34:50,305 how long we can hold our breath. 626 00:34:50,377 --> 00:34:51,503 Mandy-Rae's owned 627 00:34:51,578 --> 00:34:53,341 eight world championships in her lifetime. 628 00:34:53,413 --> 00:34:57,110 She can go down to 300 feet on one breath of air 629 00:34:57,183 --> 00:34:58,810 and come back on her own power. 630 00:35:02,689 --> 00:35:04,680 They got on board pretty quickly 631 00:35:04,758 --> 00:35:06,692 when they found out what we wanted to do. 632 00:35:13,867 --> 00:35:16,802 We have some of the same physiological traits 633 00:35:16,870 --> 00:35:19,395 that whales, seals, and dolphins have. 634 00:35:19,472 --> 00:35:21,133 We're all air-breathing mammals. 635 00:35:21,207 --> 00:35:23,573 They live in the water. We live on land. 636 00:35:26,746 --> 00:35:28,646 When you're out swimming in the ocean 637 00:35:28,715 --> 00:35:31,479 and you have whales and dolphins come by you, 638 00:35:31,551 --> 00:35:35,681 it is one of the most incredible experiences ever. 639 00:35:35,755 --> 00:35:39,088 It's so humbling that this wild creature 640 00:35:39,159 --> 00:35:41,992 would come up and be so interested in you. 641 00:35:42,062 --> 00:35:43,495 It's... 642 00:35:43,563 --> 00:35:45,861 It's unbelievable, really. 643 00:35:49,602 --> 00:35:53,163 Even though there's obviously no words spoken, 644 00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:57,141 you really feel like you're on some level communicating with them, 645 00:35:57,210 --> 00:36:00,907 like there's an understanding between the two of you. 646 00:36:06,753 --> 00:36:09,381 I don't normally touch anything in the water, 647 00:36:09,456 --> 00:36:10,787 but I just thought, you know, 648 00:36:10,857 --> 00:36:12,825 it had been swimming with me for so long, 649 00:36:12,892 --> 00:36:14,860 I put my hand out in front of me, 650 00:36:14,928 --> 00:36:16,452 and it rolled right into my hand, 651 00:36:16,529 --> 00:36:18,224 and it just stayed there in front of me, 652 00:36:18,298 --> 00:36:19,595 letting me rub its belly. 653 00:36:21,735 --> 00:36:23,293 Here you have this dolphin, 654 00:36:23,369 --> 00:36:25,667 wild and on its own terms, 655 00:36:25,739 --> 00:36:29,470 come up and really seek out affection and touch. 656 00:36:29,542 --> 00:36:31,737 It really wanted to be with us. 657 00:36:33,947 --> 00:36:35,039 When they asked us 658 00:36:35,115 --> 00:36:38,846 if we wanted to partake in a secret ops mission 659 00:36:38,918 --> 00:36:41,250 to uncover the dolphin slaughter, 660 00:36:41,321 --> 00:36:43,380 we without hesitation said, "Absolutely. Sign us up. 661 00:36:43,456 --> 00:36:45,356 What can we do?" 662 00:36:49,763 --> 00:36:51,094 - This is what... 663 00:36:53,233 --> 00:36:54,257 It's so cool. 664 00:36:54,334 --> 00:36:55,426 Yeah. 665 00:36:55,502 --> 00:36:57,834 I'm just a cute little innocent rock. 666 00:36:57,904 --> 00:36:59,371 Getting these into Customs 667 00:36:59,439 --> 00:37:01,304 is going to be the trick, I think, next. 668 00:37:01,374 --> 00:37:03,308 I hope we'll be able to find them again 669 00:37:03,376 --> 00:37:04,604 once we plant them. 670 00:37:04,677 --> 00:37:07,168 Actually, come back to the hotel and we have real rocks. 671 00:37:21,227 --> 00:37:24,685 There's 47 suitcases. 672 00:37:24,764 --> 00:37:27,631 I don't think they're going to let us carry this on. 673 00:37:44,784 --> 00:37:48,413 We definitely were trying to be as discreet as possible, 674 00:37:48,488 --> 00:37:52,254 but there's nothing discreet about Westerners 675 00:37:52,325 --> 00:37:56,284 in a place where there are no Westerners with big black cases, 676 00:37:56,362 --> 00:37:58,523 and it was noted. 677 00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:02,631 Well, now, there's a car here. 678 00:38:02,702 --> 00:38:04,670 Just... I just got here yesterday. 679 00:38:04,737 --> 00:38:06,830 You think... Do you think they know we're here? 680 00:38:08,875 --> 00:38:10,570 You do? 681 00:38:12,478 --> 00:38:14,571 First morning we arrived in Taiji, 682 00:38:14,647 --> 00:38:16,581 Ric O'Barry met us at our hotel. 683 00:38:16,649 --> 00:38:18,617 He decided that it would be a good idea 684 00:38:18,685 --> 00:38:20,209 if he'd take us on a tour 685 00:38:20,286 --> 00:38:21,913 so we got the lay of the land. 686 00:38:21,988 --> 00:38:23,387 So we all get in the vehicles, 687 00:38:23,456 --> 00:38:25,754 and one of the first things we noticed 688 00:38:25,825 --> 00:38:28,555 was that we got an escort. 689 00:38:34,567 --> 00:38:36,159 This is the butcher shop right here, 690 00:38:36,236 --> 00:38:37,760 the slaughterhouse. 691 00:38:37,837 --> 00:38:39,498 This is the union right here, 692 00:38:39,572 --> 00:38:41,369 and there's Private Space. 693 00:38:49,115 --> 00:38:50,582 When we first got in the country, 694 00:38:50,650 --> 00:38:52,811 we had no idea who was following us. 695 00:38:52,886 --> 00:38:56,185 There was about seven or eight cars that we had license plates, 696 00:38:56,256 --> 00:38:58,884 so we knew that we were being followed by these people. 697 00:38:58,958 --> 00:39:00,687 We didn't know if it was the whalers. 698 00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:03,695 We didn't know if it was Yakuza, the Japanese Mafia. 699 00:39:03,763 --> 00:39:05,924 We had no idea. 700 00:39:07,033 --> 00:39:08,796 I'd met this guy that spoke English. 701 00:39:08,868 --> 00:39:10,233 He was from the Whaling Museum, 702 00:39:10,303 --> 00:39:13,170 and I asked him, "Do you know who's in that car over there?" 703 00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:16,504 He looks over there, and he goes, "Chief of Police." 704 00:39:18,077 --> 00:39:21,171 If you're around Ric, they... they know you're trouble. 705 00:39:54,414 --> 00:39:56,678 Our first encounter with the fishermen 706 00:39:56,749 --> 00:39:59,741 was they went down there at first break of light, 707 00:39:59,819 --> 00:40:01,514 and as soon as we arrived, 708 00:40:01,587 --> 00:40:03,418 a number of fishermen showed up. 709 00:40:04,857 --> 00:40:07,826 We were down by the beach looking at... 710 00:40:07,894 --> 00:40:10,658 You could see the blood coming out of the killing lagoon. 711 00:40:10,730 --> 00:40:12,459 You could see a bunch of the babies 712 00:40:12,532 --> 00:40:14,864 were cordoned off by themselves away from their parents 713 00:40:14,934 --> 00:40:16,959 while their parents were all being slaughtered. 714 00:40:19,872 --> 00:40:24,502 And so I wanted to get a better look into the lagoon, 715 00:40:24,577 --> 00:40:28,138 and as Joe and I tried to walk down this path, 716 00:40:28,214 --> 00:40:31,377 some of the fishermen came and actually butted chest against us. 717 00:40:32,552 --> 00:40:34,179 Don't touch the girl. 718 00:40:35,555 --> 00:40:36,852 Trying to stop us 719 00:40:36,923 --> 00:40:39,153 from getting that vantage point on the killing. 720 00:40:39,225 --> 00:40:41,159 And just after that, 721 00:40:41,227 --> 00:40:43,695 We walked down to the water's edge, 722 00:40:43,763 --> 00:40:46,789 and this one poor dolphin, it... 723 00:40:46,866 --> 00:40:49,096 You could see it trying to get away, 724 00:40:49,168 --> 00:40:51,398 and it was swimming straight for us and the shore, 725 00:40:51,471 --> 00:40:54,406 and it actually made it over a couple of the nets, 726 00:40:54,474 --> 00:40:56,499 and every time it came up for a breath, 727 00:40:56,576 --> 00:40:59,636 you could see all this blood coming out behind it, 728 00:40:59,712 --> 00:41:02,738 and you could see the last couple of breaths it took, 729 00:41:02,815 --> 00:41:05,443 and then it went down, and we never saw it again. 730 00:41:52,065 --> 00:41:53,396 Bye-bye-bye-bye. 731 00:41:58,271 --> 00:42:01,729 It's a relatively small group of people who are doing this. 732 00:42:01,808 --> 00:42:03,901 Outside these few remote villages, 733 00:42:03,976 --> 00:42:07,935 most of the population doesn't even know this is going on. 734 00:42:09,749 --> 00:42:12,946 The fishermen here who do this tell you "This is our tradition. 735 00:42:13,019 --> 00:42:14,543 "This is our culture. 736 00:42:14,620 --> 00:42:15,882 "You don't understand us. 737 00:42:15,955 --> 00:42:18,515 You eat cows. Well, we eat dolphins." 738 00:42:18,591 --> 00:42:22,049 Well, the truth is that's the big lie. 739 00:42:22,128 --> 00:42:24,153 How can it be their culture, their tradition, 740 00:42:24,230 --> 00:42:27,927 if the Japanese people don't even know about it? 741 00:42:29,235 --> 00:42:33,262 23,000 dolphins are killed for meat every year. 742 00:42:37,710 --> 00:42:38,972 You never heard of it? 743 00:43:05,872 --> 00:43:08,500 People in Osaka, Kyoto, and Tokyo... 744 00:43:08,574 --> 00:43:10,974 the reason they don't know about it 745 00:43:11,043 --> 00:43:13,637 is because of a media cover-up, 746 00:43:13,713 --> 00:43:16,204 a systematic, deliberate cover-up, 747 00:43:16,282 --> 00:43:18,341 a media blackout, 748 00:43:18,417 --> 00:43:23,218 because the dolphin meat is heavily laced with mercury. 749 00:43:36,402 --> 00:43:37,926 Mercury starts in the environment 750 00:43:38,004 --> 00:43:39,869 with the smallest of organisms, 751 00:43:39,939 --> 00:43:41,964 and every step of the ladder up, 752 00:43:42,041 --> 00:43:44,236 it gets magnified about ten times... 753 00:43:45,378 --> 00:43:48,142 until the top of the food chain, 754 00:43:48,214 --> 00:43:50,910 where you get these incredibly toxic levels. 755 00:43:50,983 --> 00:43:53,349 All the fish that we love most to eat... 756 00:43:53,419 --> 00:43:55,649 things like striped bass, bluefish, 757 00:43:55,721 --> 00:43:57,916 tuna, swordfish, marlin... 758 00:43:57,990 --> 00:44:00,982 this is a major source of mercury, 759 00:44:01,060 --> 00:44:04,359 and these substances are causing real problems, 760 00:44:04,430 --> 00:44:06,694 not just to dolphins, but to people, 761 00:44:06,766 --> 00:44:09,701 because people and dolphins feed 762 00:44:09,769 --> 00:44:12,670 at the same level of a food chain. 763 00:44:12,738 --> 00:44:15,298 If you looked at bottlenose dolphins... 764 00:44:15,374 --> 00:44:17,205 that's Flipper, by the way... 765 00:44:17,276 --> 00:44:19,801 you'd discover, in fact, 766 00:44:19,879 --> 00:44:23,838 these animals are swimming toxic dump sites. 767 00:44:23,916 --> 00:44:28,376 It's better to refrain from taking those meats... 768 00:44:29,822 --> 00:44:30,811 how do I say? 769 00:44:30,890 --> 00:44:31,982 Too much. 770 00:44:32,225 --> 00:44:38,221 But still dolphin meat contains some valuable nutrients. 771 00:44:38,297 --> 00:44:39,559 This is a matter 772 00:44:39,632 --> 00:44:44,126 that the consumer affairs and health ministries are looking after, 773 00:44:44,203 --> 00:44:48,105 and I can assure you that there is no product on the market 774 00:44:48,174 --> 00:44:51,371 that exceeds any of their standards. 775 00:44:51,444 --> 00:44:54,106 By their standards. 776 00:45:22,408 --> 00:45:25,605 Almost nobody eats dolphin meat, 777 00:45:25,678 --> 00:45:29,944 but 23,000 are slaughtered every year, 778 00:45:30,016 --> 00:45:31,643 so that begs the question, 779 00:45:31,717 --> 00:45:34,311 Where is all this meat going? 780 00:45:36,622 --> 00:45:40,388 Dolphin meat is generally considered to be a less desirable commodity, 781 00:45:40,459 --> 00:45:43,519 and it would sell for far, far less if it was properly labeled. 782 00:45:43,596 --> 00:45:48,363 So the meat is distributed much more widely than we recognize. 783 00:45:48,434 --> 00:45:51,028 Scott Baker set up a portable DNA lab 784 00:45:51,103 --> 00:45:53,128 at a hotel in downtown Tokyo. 785 00:45:53,205 --> 00:45:55,969 We brought him samples, and he analyzed them 786 00:45:56,042 --> 00:45:58,306 and found that a lot of the packages 787 00:45:58,377 --> 00:46:00,777 that were labeled as expensive meat from larger whales 788 00:46:00,846 --> 00:46:02,370 was actually dolphin meat. 789 00:46:02,448 --> 00:46:05,542 A consumer may think they're buying healthy meat 790 00:46:05,618 --> 00:46:07,483 from whales from the southern hemisphere, 791 00:46:07,553 --> 00:46:09,817 and they might be getting a bottlenose dolphin 792 00:46:09,889 --> 00:46:11,151 from the coast of Taiji 793 00:46:11,223 --> 00:46:14,818 with levels of mercury that are 20 times higher 794 00:46:14,894 --> 00:46:17,294 than World Health Organization recommendations. 795 00:46:17,363 --> 00:46:19,126 The fishermen who are eating dolphin 796 00:46:19,198 --> 00:46:20,688 are poisoning themselves, 797 00:46:20,766 --> 00:46:22,233 but they're also poisoning 798 00:46:22,301 --> 00:46:24,326 the people that they're selling it to. 799 00:46:24,403 --> 00:46:25,870 And the government knows this, 800 00:46:25,938 --> 00:46:27,371 and the government's covering this up. 801 00:46:29,942 --> 00:46:34,208 They had this problem once before in Minamata. 802 00:46:34,280 --> 00:46:37,841 That's where mercury poisoning was first discovered. 803 00:46:39,018 --> 00:46:41,782 They called it Minamata disease. 804 00:47:08,080 --> 00:47:11,516 Japan has a history of this terrible Minamata tragedy, 805 00:47:11,584 --> 00:47:14,075 sometimes referred to as Minamata disease. 806 00:47:14,153 --> 00:47:16,417 But it's not a disease. It's not caught. 807 00:47:16,489 --> 00:47:19,219 It's the result of this toxicity. 808 00:47:21,927 --> 00:47:24,987 The most serious health risk of these high levels of mercury 809 00:47:25,064 --> 00:47:26,224 is to pregnant women. 810 00:47:26,298 --> 00:47:29,233 It's the fetus that's most sensitive to these levels of mercury. 811 00:47:51,891 --> 00:47:55,383 The children were starting to be born deformed. 812 00:47:55,461 --> 00:47:57,361 And it's going to happen again. 813 00:47:59,665 --> 00:48:02,566 Nobody has really looked into the hospitals, 814 00:48:02,635 --> 00:48:04,432 looked into the records 815 00:48:04,503 --> 00:48:07,666 to see how many people there have mercury poisoning. 816 00:48:07,740 --> 00:48:10,140 The symptoms are memory loss, 817 00:48:10,209 --> 00:48:13,269 loss of hearing, loss of your eyesight. 818 00:48:13,345 --> 00:48:15,506 It doesn't just knock you over dead. 819 00:48:15,581 --> 00:48:17,378 It takes a while. 820 00:48:17,450 --> 00:48:18,815 And that's happening. 821 00:48:20,319 --> 00:48:22,753 Does he want to know if he's poisoning the bodies 822 00:48:22,822 --> 00:48:24,687 of other Japanese that he's selling the meat to? 823 00:48:24,757 --> 00:48:26,019 He doesn't want to know. 824 00:48:26,091 --> 00:48:28,082 He doesn't want to know about it. 825 00:48:28,160 --> 00:48:30,424 Well, in Minamata, the government said 826 00:48:30,496 --> 00:48:32,555 they weren't poisoning the people in Minamata, either. 827 00:48:32,631 --> 00:48:33,859 Remember that? 828 00:48:33,933 --> 00:48:35,195 The Chisso factory? 829 00:48:36,235 --> 00:48:37,224 The Chisso factory? 830 00:48:37,303 --> 00:48:39,032 Same thing, same problem. 831 00:48:39,104 --> 00:48:41,072 You don't think there's a cover-up going on 832 00:48:41,140 --> 00:48:42,869 with the amount of mercury in dolphin meat? 833 00:48:42,942 --> 00:48:46,469 I don't think that a similar tragedy would happen 834 00:48:46,545 --> 00:48:48,308 because of the dolphin meat. 835 00:48:48,380 --> 00:48:50,007 I don't think so. 836 00:48:51,984 --> 00:48:53,679 Ultimately, the dolphin meat 837 00:48:53,752 --> 00:48:56,380 is based on supply and demand like any other product, 838 00:48:56,455 --> 00:48:59,083 and if that product is poison 839 00:48:59,158 --> 00:49:01,023 and they can't sell it in Taiji, 840 00:49:01,093 --> 00:49:02,924 then they can't sell it in Iwate, 841 00:49:02,995 --> 00:49:04,622 and they can't sell it in Okinawa, 842 00:49:04,697 --> 00:49:07,063 and they can't sell it wherever else they're selling it. 843 00:49:07,132 --> 00:49:11,626 So you have to stay focused on that one lagoon in Taiji, I think, 844 00:49:11,704 --> 00:49:14,002 in order to shut this down. 845 00:49:16,675 --> 00:49:18,666 Howdy. How are you doing today? 846 00:49:25,084 --> 00:49:28,520 If we got arrested, how long before they charged us? 847 00:49:28,587 --> 00:49:30,555 They don't have to charge you with anything. 848 00:49:30,623 --> 00:49:32,147 The way the law works in Japan, 849 00:49:32,224 --> 00:49:35,887 they can keep you in jail with no charges for 28 days. 850 00:49:35,961 --> 00:49:39,453 90% of the convictions in Japan 851 00:49:39,532 --> 00:49:43,366 are obtained by confessions during those 28 days 852 00:49:43,435 --> 00:49:45,562 because they can torture you legally. 853 00:49:45,638 --> 00:49:48,038 They can wake you up in the middle of the night, 854 00:49:48,107 --> 00:49:49,404 all night long, you know, and... 855 00:49:49,475 --> 00:49:51,204 I've been doing that to them all week. 856 00:49:51,277 --> 00:49:52,266 That may be aggressive... 857 00:49:52,344 --> 00:49:53,402 Can we prosecute him? 858 00:49:55,781 --> 00:49:57,009 I came to realize 859 00:49:57,082 --> 00:49:59,778 that this was going to be a much longer process, 860 00:49:59,852 --> 00:50:04,221 so we utilized our time over there doing reconnaissance, planning. 861 00:50:04,290 --> 00:50:06,349 We observed. 862 00:50:06,425 --> 00:50:09,087 There's two crews that went in last night... 863 00:50:09,161 --> 00:50:11,026 the guys that come out of the tunnel. 864 00:50:11,096 --> 00:50:13,030 They're sent to look on the left side. 865 00:50:13,098 --> 00:50:15,066 They shine their flashlights. They go pretty quick 866 00:50:15,134 --> 00:50:17,227 because they want to get to work and start out. 867 00:50:17,303 --> 00:50:19,294 What they're doing is looking for little snap branches. 868 00:50:19,371 --> 00:50:21,737 They normally go up there 869 00:50:21,807 --> 00:50:23,434 when they have dolphins in the lagoon. 870 00:50:23,509 --> 00:50:25,477 They go up and see if anybody's photographed them. 871 00:50:25,544 --> 00:50:27,273 What I'm thinking is we go in there. 872 00:50:27,346 --> 00:50:29,405 Maybe I use that location that has a branch, 873 00:50:29,481 --> 00:50:32,473 and I cut the branch on a night when there's no dolphins. 874 00:50:32,551 --> 00:50:34,678 There was two parts to the mission. 875 00:50:34,753 --> 00:50:37,381 The first one was to get the auditory experience. 876 00:50:37,456 --> 00:50:40,391 Where can we drop a big housing skull like this 877 00:50:40,459 --> 00:50:42,689 with arms sticking out? Let's try getting that. 878 00:50:42,761 --> 00:50:45,389 We could plant hydrophones on the side of the lagoon 879 00:50:45,464 --> 00:50:47,159 that was easiest to get into. 880 00:50:47,232 --> 00:50:49,860 It's a lot easier getting down the left side of the lagoon. 881 00:50:49,935 --> 00:50:53,393 The right side is right in the center of the killing cove. 882 00:50:53,472 --> 00:50:54,905 I go first with the thermal camera. 883 00:50:54,974 --> 00:50:56,942 I can tell if there's any movement over there. 884 00:50:57,009 --> 00:50:58,306 If they're hiding in the bushes, 885 00:50:58,377 --> 00:50:59,674 they're going to be popping out. 886 00:50:59,745 --> 00:51:02,270 So the hydrophone was sort of a trial run 887 00:51:02,348 --> 00:51:03,815 to see if we could get away with it. 888 00:51:03,882 --> 00:51:05,349 You guys go in with two cameras, right? 889 00:51:05,417 --> 00:51:06,406 Three cameras. 890 00:51:06,485 --> 00:51:07,509 The second mission, 891 00:51:07,586 --> 00:51:09,451 what we call the full orchestra. 892 00:51:09,521 --> 00:51:11,079 Let's go, then, with three cameras... 893 00:51:11,156 --> 00:51:12,521 you're 2, you're 1... 894 00:51:12,591 --> 00:51:13,956 and think about fourth. 895 00:51:14,026 --> 00:51:15,618 We would plant all the rocks, 896 00:51:15,694 --> 00:51:18,162 the hydrophones, underwater cameras. 897 00:51:18,230 --> 00:51:21,791 They have scuba divers, so they just sweep. 898 00:51:21,867 --> 00:51:23,801 They're straining the bottom of that bay, 899 00:51:23,869 --> 00:51:25,700 so we don't want them to pick up underwater cameras. 900 00:51:25,771 --> 00:51:28,035 Once you get right here, you're safe. 901 00:51:28,107 --> 00:51:30,473 This is the first sign that says "Do not enter." 902 00:51:30,542 --> 00:51:32,442 - We don't know what it says. - "Danger." 903 00:51:32,511 --> 00:51:33,637 We have no idea. 904 00:51:33,712 --> 00:51:35,680 It says "Welcome to Taiji" for all we know. 905 00:51:35,748 --> 00:51:37,079 "Enjoy our wonderful UNESCO site." 906 00:51:37,149 --> 00:51:39,583 I wanted to have a three-dimensional experience 907 00:51:39,652 --> 00:51:41,586 with what's going on in that lagoon. 908 00:51:41,654 --> 00:51:44,487 I wanted to hear everything that the dolphins were doing, 909 00:51:44,556 --> 00:51:46,183 everything that the whalers were saying. 910 00:51:46,258 --> 00:51:50,194 The effort wasn't just to show the slaughter. 911 00:51:50,262 --> 00:51:53,857 You want to capture something that will make people change. 912 00:51:55,367 --> 00:51:59,497 This weekend, the thin, mournful cry of the humpback whale 913 00:51:59,571 --> 00:52:02,005 echoed through London's Trafalgar Square, 914 00:52:02,074 --> 00:52:03,837 as thousands of demonstrators 915 00:52:03,909 --> 00:52:06,503 demanded an end to all whale killing. 916 00:52:06,578 --> 00:52:08,011 In the 1960s, 917 00:52:08,080 --> 00:52:09,479 when the IWC wasn't doing anything 918 00:52:09,548 --> 00:52:11,311 about the slaughter of large whales, 919 00:52:11,383 --> 00:52:12,748 there was one guy, Roger Payne, 920 00:52:12,818 --> 00:52:14,718 who helped start the whole Save the Whale movement 921 00:52:14,787 --> 00:52:15,879 by exposing to the world 922 00:52:15,954 --> 00:52:17,114 that these animals were singing. 923 00:52:17,189 --> 00:52:18,850 That was profound. 924 00:52:18,924 --> 00:52:20,084 What do we want? 925 00:52:20,159 --> 00:52:21,251 Save the whales! 926 00:52:21,326 --> 00:52:22,588 When do we want it? 927 00:52:22,661 --> 00:52:25,221 Save the Whale demonstrators were out again today. 928 00:52:25,297 --> 00:52:27,993 And they are determined to see that something be done about it. 929 00:52:28,067 --> 00:52:31,969 At the time, about 33,000 whales a year were being killed. 930 00:52:32,037 --> 00:52:36,565 We got it down eventually to about 330, 1% of that amount. 931 00:52:36,642 --> 00:52:40,009 It's now going back up again. 932 00:52:40,079 --> 00:52:43,344 There has to be a new generation that takes over from here. 933 00:52:43,415 --> 00:52:46,043 There's only so many Ric O'Barrys and Roger Paynes. 934 00:52:46,118 --> 00:52:47,915 They're all in their 60s and 70s now, 935 00:52:47,986 --> 00:52:50,511 and there's not a lot of people out there 936 00:52:50,589 --> 00:52:52,420 picking up where they've left off. 937 00:52:59,465 --> 00:53:00,796 I like this. 938 00:53:00,866 --> 00:53:03,562 It sinks very slowly, this line. 939 00:53:03,635 --> 00:53:04,795 It does sink, but it's very slow, 940 00:53:04,870 --> 00:53:07,100 so I just put a couple weights on it. 941 00:53:07,172 --> 00:53:09,970 We're going to have these two hydrophones connected to it. 942 00:53:10,042 --> 00:53:11,976 - One thing, though. - Yeah. 943 00:53:12,044 --> 00:53:13,409 I took all the other stickers off, see? 944 00:53:13,479 --> 00:53:14,468 Go on the... 945 00:53:14,546 --> 00:53:15,604 "Please return dry." 946 00:53:15,681 --> 00:53:16,875 Yeah, let's take the sticker off. 947 00:53:16,949 --> 00:53:17,938 Okay? Jesus. 948 00:53:19,017 --> 00:53:24,319 (03) 3224-5000. 949 00:53:25,324 --> 00:53:28,521 That's the cell phone number for the U.S. Embassy in Tokyo 950 00:53:28,594 --> 00:53:33,725 as well as the cell phone numbers of our other two phones, 951 00:53:33,799 --> 00:53:37,257 just in case something shits the bed. 952 00:53:39,571 --> 00:53:42,335 When we very discreetly leave the hotel room 953 00:53:42,407 --> 00:53:45,535 with four or five guys dressed in black 954 00:53:45,611 --> 00:53:47,636 with camera equipment, 955 00:53:47,713 --> 00:53:49,442 we have it timed really well. 956 00:53:49,515 --> 00:53:51,210 We know when the guard turns up. 957 00:53:51,283 --> 00:53:53,751 We know how far the cop is going to be behind us. 958 00:53:53,819 --> 00:53:55,514 We know how long it takes the cops 959 00:53:55,587 --> 00:53:57,987 to get from the next village there. 960 00:53:58,056 --> 00:54:00,650 It was probably the scariest night of my life 961 00:54:00,726 --> 00:54:02,455 because we'd been up many days in a row 962 00:54:02,528 --> 00:54:03,586 preparing for this. 963 00:54:03,662 --> 00:54:05,425 We're exposed out there. 964 00:54:05,497 --> 00:54:07,692 There's very few places we could hide. 965 00:56:33,679 --> 00:56:34,941 Joe. 966 00:56:55,834 --> 00:56:57,062 Here you go. 967 00:56:58,170 --> 00:56:59,831 Come on. Let's go. Go. 968 00:57:00,939 --> 00:57:02,463 Holy Christ. 969 00:57:03,976 --> 00:57:05,102 Nice work. 970 00:57:05,177 --> 00:57:06,974 Jesus. 971 00:57:08,413 --> 00:57:10,278 100% of the people in the vehicle? 972 00:57:10,349 --> 00:57:11,839 It's a good night. 973 00:57:11,917 --> 00:57:13,214 That's a good night. 974 00:57:22,160 --> 00:57:23,149 Me? 975 00:57:24,196 --> 00:57:25,527 I don't know. 976 00:57:25,597 --> 00:57:26,689 I don't know. 977 00:57:26,765 --> 00:57:27,789 Not me. 978 00:57:27,866 --> 00:57:29,800 At midnight, I'm sleeping. 979 00:57:39,244 --> 00:57:40,233 I don't know. 980 00:57:40,312 --> 00:57:41,609 I cannot speak for OPS. 981 00:57:41,680 --> 00:57:44,274 I can only speak for Ric O'Barry. 982 00:57:44,349 --> 00:57:47,409 I cannot speak for anybody except myself. 983 00:57:47,486 --> 00:57:49,579 At midnight, I'm sleeping. 984 00:57:49,654 --> 00:57:50,916 No, no, no. 985 00:57:52,257 --> 00:57:53,588 I don't know. 986 00:57:54,893 --> 00:57:56,155 I'm not OPS. 987 00:57:56,228 --> 00:57:57,957 I'm not OPS, no. 988 00:57:59,398 --> 00:58:00,524 Well, I do interviews. 989 00:58:00,599 --> 00:58:02,362 Anybody who wants to talk to me, 990 00:58:02,434 --> 00:58:03,924 - I will talk to them. - Yes? 991 00:58:04,002 --> 00:58:07,096 OPS wants to talk to me, I talk to them. 992 00:58:07,172 --> 00:58:09,970 I talk to anybody about mercury poisoning. 993 00:58:13,145 --> 00:58:14,339 - Thank you. - Okay. 994 00:58:14,413 --> 00:58:15,778 Thank you so much for your time. 995 00:58:15,847 --> 00:58:17,781 - Bye-bye. - Bye-bye. 996 00:58:27,926 --> 00:58:31,953 I think the most horrifying thing about the whole dive that night 997 00:58:32,030 --> 00:58:33,520 was that, you know, you could hear them 998 00:58:33,598 --> 00:58:35,896 communicating with each other, 999 00:58:35,967 --> 00:58:39,801 and you knew that that next morning that would be the end of it. 1000 00:58:39,871 --> 00:58:42,066 They'd be silenced forever. 1001 00:58:44,376 --> 00:58:47,743 They're always trying to communicate with us, 1002 00:58:47,813 --> 00:58:48,905 and that's hard to explain, 1003 00:58:48,980 --> 00:58:49,969 but when you live with them 1004 00:58:50,048 --> 00:58:52,482 like I did on the Flipper TV show day and night, 1005 00:58:52,551 --> 00:58:55,452 I could read that body language. 1006 00:59:01,660 --> 00:59:03,093 There's something visceral 1007 00:59:03,161 --> 00:59:06,597 about being in the water with an animal like this. 1008 00:59:06,665 --> 00:59:08,064 As a scientist, 1009 00:59:08,133 --> 00:59:11,933 I'm trained to recognize intelligence through objective measures... 1010 00:59:12,003 --> 00:59:13,800 tool use, cognitive processes, and so on. 1011 00:59:13,872 --> 00:59:15,134 As a human being, 1012 00:59:15,207 --> 00:59:19,667 when I see a dolphin looking at me and his eyes tracking me 1013 00:59:19,744 --> 00:59:22,269 and I lock eyes with that animal, 1014 00:59:22,347 --> 00:59:24,679 there's a human response that makes it undeniable 1015 00:59:24,749 --> 00:59:27,309 that I'm connecting with an intelligent being. 1016 00:59:29,654 --> 00:59:33,146 Science has been tantalized for years at the prospect of talking 1017 00:59:33,225 --> 00:59:35,250 to the most intelligent creatures on earth, 1018 00:59:35,327 --> 00:59:36,760 which may not be human beings. 1019 00:59:36,828 --> 00:59:38,227 A small group of scientists 1020 00:59:38,296 --> 00:59:40,628 determined to see if humans and dolphins 1021 00:59:40,699 --> 00:59:42,257 can learn to talk to each other. 1022 00:59:42,334 --> 00:59:47,135 We keep spending billions of dollars for sending signals up into the sky, 1023 00:59:47,205 --> 00:59:48,638 and we have a species here 1024 00:59:48,707 --> 00:59:52,473 that can conceivably be more intelligent than we are. 1025 01:00:01,353 --> 01:00:04,413 Dolphins can understand how to manipulate situations, 1026 01:00:04,489 --> 01:00:05,854 how to relate to people, 1027 01:00:05,924 --> 01:00:10,520 how to create innovatively out of their own imagination. 1028 01:00:10,595 --> 01:00:11,892 It sometimes amazes me 1029 01:00:11,963 --> 01:00:13,555 that the only language 1030 01:00:13,632 --> 01:00:15,793 which has been extensively taught to dolphins 1031 01:00:15,867 --> 01:00:17,892 is a version of American Sign Language, 1032 01:00:17,969 --> 01:00:19,368 which, of course, you use your hands, 1033 01:00:19,437 --> 01:00:21,200 so you have all these wonderful signals, 1034 01:00:21,273 --> 01:00:24,071 and people use their hands to give messages to dolphins. 1035 01:00:25,644 --> 01:00:27,703 And this somehow kind of misses the point 1036 01:00:27,779 --> 01:00:29,872 because dolphins don't have hands, 1037 01:00:29,948 --> 01:00:32,883 so this is inherently a very one-way process. 1038 01:00:32,951 --> 01:00:34,680 And it's this anthropomorphic 1039 01:00:34,753 --> 01:00:37,586 "We have something to teach them or control them," 1040 01:00:37,656 --> 01:00:40,682 and perhaps we ought to be looking at what they can give to us. 1041 01:00:43,395 --> 01:00:45,920 It's not about intelligence. 1042 01:00:45,997 --> 01:00:48,659 It's about consciousness. 1043 01:00:48,733 --> 01:00:53,170 They are self-aware, like humans are self-aware. 1044 01:00:53,238 --> 01:00:55,069 That means that we look in the mirror, 1045 01:00:55,140 --> 01:00:58,075 and we know exactly what we're looking at. 1046 01:00:58,143 --> 01:01:02,239 I don't believe that the fishermen here are aware of that. 1047 01:01:07,085 --> 01:01:08,677 When they're in that killing cove 1048 01:01:08,753 --> 01:01:11,881 and their babies are being slaughtered in front of them, 1049 01:01:11,957 --> 01:01:13,549 they're aware of that. 1050 01:01:13,625 --> 01:01:17,857 They can anticipate what's going to happen to them. 1051 01:02:03,441 --> 01:02:07,810 The first time I went to Taiji was in 1980, 1052 01:02:07,879 --> 01:02:11,246 and I had been to Iki the year before. 1053 01:02:11,316 --> 01:02:15,343 Iki is a tourist destination for Japanese 1054 01:02:15,420 --> 01:02:17,354 which became infamous 1055 01:02:17,422 --> 01:02:21,153 for this... most ghastly slaughters of dolphins. 1056 01:02:21,226 --> 01:02:24,855 I mean, literally thousands of them would... could be killed in a day. 1057 01:02:28,933 --> 01:02:33,165 Well, I went back to Iki about three years ago, 1058 01:02:33,238 --> 01:02:35,001 and they don't have any dolphins, 1059 01:02:35,073 --> 01:02:39,908 where once they had thousands of them streaming by the coast. 1060 01:02:48,053 --> 01:02:49,816 Irony of ironies. 1061 01:02:49,888 --> 01:02:54,291 Because the international captivity trade is so lucrative, 1062 01:02:54,359 --> 01:02:56,418 they want to be in on it, 1063 01:02:56,494 --> 01:02:59,463 and they don't have any dolphins. 1064 01:03:01,199 --> 01:03:03,394 They have to have dolphins for their dolphin parks, 1065 01:03:03,468 --> 01:03:06,369 so they go buy them in Taiji now. 1066 01:03:08,907 --> 01:03:12,070 Every cetacean known to man is endangered 1067 01:03:12,143 --> 01:03:14,202 just by going anywhere near Japan. 1068 01:03:18,350 --> 01:03:22,753 We asked the Taiji fishermen if we could subsidize this activity... 1069 01:03:22,821 --> 01:03:25,585 in other words, if you leave the boats tied up at the dock, 1070 01:03:25,657 --> 01:03:27,625 we'll pay you the same amount of money 1071 01:03:27,692 --> 01:03:31,753 you would have made killing dolphins in Taiji. 1072 01:03:31,830 --> 01:03:35,095 They got back to us and said "It's not about money. 1073 01:03:35,166 --> 01:03:38,329 It's about pest control." 1074 01:03:38,403 --> 01:03:39,700 Pest control. 1075 01:03:39,771 --> 01:03:41,796 In other words, 1076 01:03:41,873 --> 01:03:44,364 they're being told by the government 1077 01:03:44,442 --> 01:03:49,277 that the dolphin are eating too much fish in the ocean. 1078 01:03:57,455 --> 01:04:03,451 This is not attempt just to incriminate whales as a bad guy. 1079 01:04:03,528 --> 01:04:09,228 However, we cannot ignore the fishing effort has been decreasing. 1080 01:04:09,300 --> 01:04:15,068 It's seriously hard to take that PowerPoint demonstration seriously. 1081 01:04:15,140 --> 01:04:19,304 I have to tell you that there is very strong evidence 1082 01:04:19,377 --> 01:04:23,143 that whales are consuming huge quantities of fish 1083 01:04:23,214 --> 01:04:26,115 that are also the target of fisheries. 1084 01:04:26,184 --> 01:04:28,482 The Government of Brazil wants to put on record 1085 01:04:28,553 --> 01:04:30,487 that to us it certainly amounts 1086 01:04:30,555 --> 01:04:33,581 to what only can be described as biological nonsense. 1087 01:04:33,658 --> 01:04:36,126 It is clear that the fisheries of the world are on decline, 1088 01:04:36,194 --> 01:04:39,095 and the obvious culprit is people, 1089 01:04:39,164 --> 01:04:41,689 and we don't want to acknowledge that. 1090 01:04:50,475 --> 01:04:54,468 We look at the ocean as a source of infinite quality seafood, 1091 01:04:54,546 --> 01:04:56,639 and I think we're learning some hard lessons 1092 01:04:56,714 --> 01:04:57,976 that this isn't true. 1093 01:05:01,619 --> 01:05:04,315 We're pulling the fish out of the ocean at such a rate 1094 01:05:04,389 --> 01:05:07,153 and eroding and diminishing our marine ecosystems 1095 01:05:07,225 --> 01:05:09,955 so bad that the whole thing could collapse. 1096 01:05:23,508 --> 01:05:26,443 70% of human beings, seven out of ten people, 1097 01:05:26,511 --> 01:05:29,241 rely as their principal protein on seafood. 1098 01:05:30,982 --> 01:05:34,418 If we lose access to fish in the sea, 1099 01:05:34,486 --> 01:05:38,445 we will be causing the biggest public health problem 1100 01:05:38,523 --> 01:05:40,991 human beings have ever faced. 1101 01:05:46,264 --> 01:05:50,462 The Japanese literally control the world marketplace in fish. 1102 01:05:50,535 --> 01:05:54,471 They have buyers in every major port in the world. 1103 01:05:54,539 --> 01:05:58,908 They're catching their fish from an ever-depleting supply, 1104 01:05:58,977 --> 01:06:02,879 and I think they have a real fear that they will run out of food. 1105 01:06:04,782 --> 01:06:09,014 What more logical thing could they do than catch whales to replace them? 1106 01:06:10,488 --> 01:06:15,585 International Whaling Commission is essentially killing 1107 01:06:15,660 --> 01:06:19,994 coastal small-type whaling communities like Taiji. 1108 01:06:32,076 --> 01:06:37,275 This body should seriously consider the proposal that is before us. 1109 01:06:37,348 --> 01:06:41,409 Dominica would like to compliment the Japanese delegation. 1110 01:06:41,486 --> 01:06:43,010 We strongly support the proposal. 1111 01:06:43,087 --> 01:06:46,523 Antigua and Barbuda supports this declaration in its entirety. 1112 01:06:46,591 --> 01:06:49,116 Do we have any concern, any sympathy 1113 01:06:49,193 --> 01:06:51,058 for the plight of the people of Japan? 1114 01:06:51,129 --> 01:06:53,962 This is an opportunity to help Japan. 1115 01:06:54,032 --> 01:06:57,229 We could help the Japanese cause and the people of Taiji. 1116 01:06:57,302 --> 01:07:01,204 We therefore urge this IWC to grant... 1117 01:07:01,272 --> 01:07:04,298 ...their basic request for them to engage in whaling. 1118 01:07:04,375 --> 01:07:08,277 And therefore, St. Kitts and Nevis support this proposal. 1119 01:07:08,346 --> 01:07:09,608 Thank you, Mr. Chairman. 1120 01:07:09,681 --> 01:07:14,744 In my opinion, this has been sufficient enough time 1121 01:07:14,819 --> 01:07:20,314 to allow for the replenishment of species... of certain species... 1122 01:07:20,391 --> 01:07:21,585 which were in decline 1123 01:07:21,659 --> 01:07:23,991 and some others which were nearing extinction. 1124 01:07:24,062 --> 01:07:28,294 There are several facets in the interests out of Antigua in whaling. 1125 01:07:28,366 --> 01:07:29,663 First of all, the government 1126 01:07:29,734 --> 01:07:31,702 is presently interested in the whaling commission 1127 01:07:31,769 --> 01:07:34,431 because the Japanese government's paying them to be interested. 1128 01:07:35,640 --> 01:07:38,040 The Japanese government and their agencies 1129 01:07:38,109 --> 01:07:41,510 go to small bankrupt nations 1130 01:07:41,579 --> 01:07:44,412 and offer them financial support, 1131 01:07:44,482 --> 01:07:45,972 offer them whatever it takes, 1132 01:07:46,050 --> 01:07:48,678 firstly to get them to join the IWC 1133 01:07:48,753 --> 01:07:51,119 and then, when they get here, to vote for Japan. 1134 01:07:51,189 --> 01:07:54,420 This is how whaling in the 21st century works. 1135 01:07:54,492 --> 01:07:56,483 What kind of whales pass through Antigua? 1136 01:07:56,561 --> 01:07:58,756 We have... 1137 01:07:58,830 --> 01:07:59,990 I think the Commissioner might be... 1138 01:08:00,064 --> 01:08:01,156 I think there's some humpback whales... 1139 01:08:01,232 --> 01:08:02,256 - Yes. ...that pass through Antigua. 1140 01:08:02,333 --> 01:08:03,527 I'm not sure of the details 1141 01:08:03,601 --> 01:08:04,795 of the whales that pass through Antigua 1142 01:08:04,869 --> 01:08:06,769 at this point in time, but there are whales 1143 01:08:06,838 --> 01:08:08,465 that pass through our waters from time to time. 1144 01:08:08,539 --> 01:08:09,938 I have seen only... 1145 01:08:10,008 --> 01:08:13,341 My only interaction with whales are what I see on television. 1146 01:08:14,412 --> 01:08:19,714 It is so transparent to even the least perspicacious onlooker 1147 01:08:19,784 --> 01:08:25,017 that they have prostituted themselves for a few yen. 1148 01:08:27,425 --> 01:08:31,953 The Japanese government pays our fees, our annual fees, 1149 01:08:32,030 --> 01:08:35,193 for participation in the International Whaling Commission. 1150 01:08:35,266 --> 01:08:37,496 It has nothing to do with nutrition. 1151 01:08:37,568 --> 01:08:40,128 It simply has to do with the fact that "You voted for us, 1152 01:08:40,204 --> 01:08:42,638 "so let's give you something that you people can see 1153 01:08:42,707 --> 01:08:45,073 "that it was worth your while to sell your vote to us... 1154 01:08:45,143 --> 01:08:46,371 fisheries complexes." 1155 01:08:49,647 --> 01:08:53,310 Interestingly, the fisheries complexes built by Japan 1156 01:08:53,384 --> 01:08:54,874 have already gone into disuse 1157 01:08:54,952 --> 01:08:58,547 because it has nothing to do with fishing. 1158 01:08:58,623 --> 01:09:00,386 One neighbor got the goodies, 1159 01:09:00,458 --> 01:09:03,359 and every other neighbor wants a part of the goodies. 1160 01:09:03,428 --> 01:09:05,692 Every island in the Eastern Caribbean... 1161 01:09:05,763 --> 01:09:07,890 St. Kitts, Antigua, St. Vincent., St. Lucia, 1162 01:09:07,965 --> 01:09:09,262 Grenada, Dominica... 1163 01:09:09,333 --> 01:09:11,096 we all have the same goodies. 1164 01:09:12,270 --> 01:09:15,865 In Dominica, we have a $22 million fisheries complex 1165 01:09:15,940 --> 01:09:19,740 which is used for the local merchants to store imported chicken. 1166 01:09:22,780 --> 01:09:26,546 It's very sad to see the beautiful islands in the Caribbean 1167 01:09:26,617 --> 01:09:31,213 becoming neon-lit whorehouses for the Japanese. 1168 01:09:32,523 --> 01:09:34,718 It really runs counter to logic 1169 01:09:34,792 --> 01:09:36,089 why the Japanese continue 1170 01:09:36,160 --> 01:09:39,687 to keep this dying whaling business going, 1171 01:09:39,764 --> 01:09:41,698 especially when you get the facts 1172 01:09:41,766 --> 01:09:43,199 about the levels of mercury 1173 01:09:43,267 --> 01:09:45,258 and other contaminants in the meat. 1174 01:09:45,336 --> 01:09:47,804 I visited Japan earlier this year, 1175 01:09:47,872 --> 01:09:51,205 and I discovered that there was another peculiar reason 1176 01:09:51,275 --> 01:09:53,709 for the Japanese position at the IWC. 1177 01:09:53,778 --> 01:09:57,009 This has not got to do with economics. 1178 01:09:57,081 --> 01:09:59,572 it hasn't even got to do with politics. 1179 01:09:59,650 --> 01:10:02,346 It really has to do with the... 1180 01:10:02,420 --> 01:10:06,720 the remnants of a traditional notion of empire. 1181 01:10:06,791 --> 01:10:09,351 They had had enough of the West 1182 01:10:09,427 --> 01:10:12,260 telling them what to do and how to do it and when to do it. 1183 01:10:12,330 --> 01:10:14,696 "Well, you're not going to make us stop killing whales." 1184 01:10:15,933 --> 01:10:19,960 There's some kind of misplaced nationalistic pride at work. 1185 01:10:20,037 --> 01:10:22,335 It's an industry that is massively subsidized 1186 01:10:22,406 --> 01:10:23,634 by Japanese taxpayers, 1187 01:10:23,708 --> 01:10:25,608 and when you have those sorts of subsidies in place, 1188 01:10:25,676 --> 01:10:27,405 you invite corruption. 1189 01:10:27,478 --> 01:10:31,778 In order to perpetuate this cultural argument, 1190 01:10:31,849 --> 01:10:33,783 the Taiji dolphin hunters 1191 01:10:33,851 --> 01:10:37,116 started giving the dolphin meat away free 1192 01:10:37,188 --> 01:10:38,849 to the school system. 1193 01:10:38,923 --> 01:10:41,289 They're getting this in a form of propaganda. 1194 01:10:41,359 --> 01:10:42,690 They're not being told 1195 01:10:42,760 --> 01:10:45,160 that the free lunchmeat that their children are getting 1196 01:10:45,229 --> 01:10:48,494 are contaminated with high levels of mercury. 1197 01:10:48,566 --> 01:10:50,966 Are you aware of the Mayor of Taiji's plan 1198 01:10:51,035 --> 01:10:52,593 to distribute dolphin meat throughout Japan 1199 01:10:52,670 --> 01:10:54,160 to Japanese children? 1200 01:10:55,506 --> 01:10:58,805 I think you... correctly misunderstood. 1201 01:10:58,876 --> 01:10:59,968 Did I? 1202 01:11:00,044 --> 01:11:03,172 You perfectly misunderstood. 1203 01:11:16,127 --> 01:11:18,960 Two city council members came out on record. 1204 01:11:19,030 --> 01:11:20,657 They risked their... 1205 01:11:20,731 --> 01:11:23,222 if not their lives, their livelihood to speak out. 1206 01:11:46,324 --> 01:11:48,121 There's a saying in Japan 1207 01:11:48,192 --> 01:11:51,719 that says the nail that sticks out must be pounded down, 1208 01:11:51,796 --> 01:11:53,127 and so it's a real problem 1209 01:11:53,197 --> 01:11:56,257 just to stand up and be counted in Japan. 1210 01:11:57,468 --> 01:12:01,734 There's no environmental movement working actively on this issue 1211 01:12:01,806 --> 01:12:05,469 that has any kind of power at all in that country. 1212 01:12:05,543 --> 01:12:07,807 We are dumping in the environment 1213 01:12:07,879 --> 01:12:12,179 all kinds of chemicals like mercury, cadmium, lead. 1214 01:12:12,250 --> 01:12:13,649 We have the obligation... 1215 01:12:13,718 --> 01:12:16,687 We have a moral authority to do something about it. 1216 01:12:16,754 --> 01:12:17,846 In a few years, 1217 01:12:17,922 --> 01:12:19,719 we may look back and wonder what we did, 1218 01:12:19,790 --> 01:12:23,726 allowing more and more tons of meat to be consumed. 1219 01:12:23,794 --> 01:12:25,557 We have a moral obligation, 1220 01:12:25,630 --> 01:12:28,394 and let it not be said that you didn't know about it. 1221 01:12:28,466 --> 01:12:29,728 You know about it. 1222 01:12:31,202 --> 01:12:35,468 To me, you're either an activist or an inactivist, 1223 01:12:35,539 --> 01:12:37,234 and I wanted to be active. 1224 01:12:37,308 --> 01:12:39,242 I wanted to stop this. 1225 01:13:17,581 --> 01:13:19,105 I recognize it. Do you? 1226 01:13:19,183 --> 01:13:21,549 8335. Yeah, I do recognize it. 1227 01:13:21,619 --> 01:13:24,144 I think it was the double channels. Yep. 1228 01:13:25,756 --> 01:13:27,314 Can you go straight? 1229 01:13:28,693 --> 01:13:30,456 They're doing a circle. 1230 01:13:30,528 --> 01:13:31,961 Let's take a quick break. 1231 01:13:32,029 --> 01:13:33,018 Quick, quick, quick, quick. 1232 01:13:33,097 --> 01:13:36,658 - It's 766. It's the cop. - Is it? 1233 01:15:18,903 --> 01:15:20,928 Louie, Louie, are you there? 1234 01:16:09,220 --> 01:16:10,915 Yeah, that's cool. 1235 01:16:20,498 --> 01:16:21,829 Set it down. 1236 01:20:56,707 --> 01:21:02,202 There was kind of a collective horror when we started to see the footage. 1237 01:21:02,279 --> 01:21:04,338 It was mind-boggling. 1238 01:21:07,584 --> 01:21:09,142 They're doing it exactly 1239 01:21:09,219 --> 01:21:10,743 like they did with the large whales. 1240 01:21:10,821 --> 01:21:13,449 they're slaughtering every one they can get. 1241 01:22:03,140 --> 01:22:05,404 Why didn't they set them free? 1242 01:22:10,314 --> 01:22:14,614 That question has kept me awake for a long time. 1243 01:22:23,994 --> 01:22:25,689 I've watched them give birth. 1244 01:22:25,762 --> 01:22:29,755 I've nursed them back to health when they're sick. 1245 01:22:31,401 --> 01:22:33,835 Had I known what I know now, 1246 01:22:33,904 --> 01:22:35,337 I would have raised enough money 1247 01:22:35,405 --> 01:22:37,168 to buy them away from the Seaquarium 1248 01:22:37,241 --> 01:22:38,435 and set them free. 1249 01:22:38,509 --> 01:22:41,000 That would have been the right thing to do. 1250 01:22:41,078 --> 01:22:44,741 I was buying a new Porsche every year. 1251 01:22:44,815 --> 01:22:50,515 But I was as ignorant as I could be for as long as I could be. 1252 01:22:50,587 --> 01:22:54,387 I didn't think about that for a long time later. 1253 01:23:00,864 --> 01:23:02,058 Listen to me. 1254 01:23:02,132 --> 01:23:05,329 Our killing method has been improved substantially, 1255 01:23:05,402 --> 01:23:07,495 and the fishermen in Taiji 1256 01:23:07,571 --> 01:23:09,766 are using specific-made knife 1257 01:23:09,840 --> 01:23:13,105 and put the... do that... to the spine, 1258 01:23:13,176 --> 01:23:16,043 and then most of the animals are killed instantly. 1259 01:23:16,113 --> 01:23:18,240 - Killed instantly? - Yes. 1260 01:23:18,315 --> 01:23:21,250 And if they were killed other than this method, 1261 01:23:21,318 --> 01:23:22,683 would that be cruel? 1262 01:23:25,689 --> 01:23:28,886 As I told you, I don't want to talk about "if" stories. 1263 01:23:28,959 --> 01:23:32,190 I want to show you some video that I just saw. 1264 01:23:57,254 --> 01:23:59,722 When and where did you take this? 1265 01:25:29,846 --> 01:25:32,781 I have to see this end in my lifetime. 1266 01:25:35,052 --> 01:25:39,045 Right now I'm focusing on that one little body of water 1267 01:25:39,122 --> 01:25:42,182 where that slaughter takes place. 1268 01:25:42,259 --> 01:25:45,956 If we can't stop that, if we can't fix that, 1269 01:25:46,029 --> 01:25:48,691 forget about the bigger issues. 1270 01:25:50,233 --> 01:25:51,564 There's no hope. 1271 01:30:41,324 --> 01:30:44,350 Subtitled By J.R. Media Services, Inc. Burbank, CA 1272 01:30:48,231 --> 01:30:51,758 Everyone there, show us your passport. 1273 01:30:51,835 --> 01:30:53,860 Hey. How are you? 1274 01:30:53,937 --> 01:30:55,529 Nice to see you. 1275 01:31:08,485 --> 01:31:11,613 So we went for... for the children, you see.